The AK river call was great. Anthony with the classic lean back and stare at you with disgust like, how can you make that call? It's called a soul read buddy.
Bart, on the AK hand…. you said you were planning on betting rivers for value to represent a busted flush draw. The flush comes through, and you bet for value anyway. Your opponent would have to think you are bluffing to call you with AT, AJ, or AQ, but what can he put you on that AJ beats?
Hey Bart, quick question on the first hand, why were you able to eliminate 99-KK (no spade) which is now turning the hand into a bluff? If he were to have that range, you could have a lot of AsX that he could be trying to fold out with a river bluff raise. Other than that range (which is also heavily discounted for not cbetting flop) I agree that this looks very nutted. Big props on the fold.
On the AK hand, Burt showed his hand even though he was calling. The other fellow never showed his hand. I’m wondering if this is because he’s an amateur so Burt plays in a friendly way? If a pro did this, would he wait for the other fellow to show his hand?
At 3:10 Bart says that it’s very strange that Torelli over calls the flop bet by Glantz after Bart calls, can anyone explain to me WHY it’s such a strange move? Can’t he just call with the hopes of his opponents doing the betting for him on future streets? There’s only gonna be a small handful of cards that he doesn’t like on the turn and River right?
It's not strange if you know his hand... It's strange if he had any other hand that would want to continue. All other draws etc (that want to continue) would raise or would have lead out. Anything else (not a strong made hand or strong draw) would have folded.
Hey Bart, on the last hand with one card up, why do you think its best to check your entire range on the flop? with a 9 up, he can only have 99/A9 or may be Q9/J9. But only 99 beats your AJ. But if he actually had 99, dont you think betting on the flop is our only way of taking the pot down? Coz thats the only way we can represent JJ. And if he doesnt have 99, I dont think he is going to commit any more money in any way not matter when you bet unless he hits is hole card. So i think a flop bet would also work as equity denial from a Q/J/9 rolling off on the turn. Why not just bet now and give ourselves the most chance to take the pot down?
He means the majority of people would just call or fold with Ax (which is a pair of aces on the turn). Which means that when someone raises they're representing either better than Ax or complete air.
i like how Deeb tried to act super comfortable to make it seem like he has 99 cuz he didnt get snapped so he thinks hes good (then again Bart should think for like 5min n call with JJ for the payback slowroll)
I think the right play with the AJ is to bet small on the flop, then jam turn. He is capped, you are not, therefore you should be exploiting that fact by valuebetting and bluffing mercilessly. He is guaranteed to lose if you bet at correct bluff frequency. Capitalize on your range advantage!
It's all player dependent. Usually at lower stakes people will not 3 bet enough, so like you say, they will usually have a high pair. You have to know who you're playing against, what kind of hands they've shown down when they 3 bet, how many times you've seen them 3 bet, their mental state (tilted or not) and you will get a more accurate measure of the chance that they're 3 betting light.
IT's a great laydown by Bart with the set of 8s yet I still disagree with his reasoning. "Alec is NEVER bluffing with just the Ace of spades". WHY NOT? Bart seems to think a lone Ace is plenty of showdown value and he wouldn't need to bluff. Um, exsqueeze me but a rather tight player led out on the river on THIS board. The WEAKEST hand I'm putting Bart on is an Ace and my nine kicker is not likely to hold. It's beat by all reasonable Ace hands (A10, AJ, AQ, AK). Now a looser player might be leading out with JJs, QQs, then fine you can just call. Still, it was a great fold.
like your video....on some other videos (by other people) I cant believe some of the advice. Hero (BTN): 208 BB SB: 118.2 BB (VPIP: 21.43, PFR: 21.43, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 29) BB: 287.4 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 5) UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 20) MP: 100 BB (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1) CO: 100 BB SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has K A fold, fold, CO raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 9 BB, fold, fold, CO calls 6 BB Flop: (19.4 BB, 2 players) Q A Q CO bets 6 BB, Hero calls 6 BB Turn: (31.4 BB, 2 players) 8 CO bets 6 BB, Hero raises to 27 BB, CO calls 21 BB River: (85.4 BB, 2 players) 9 CO bets 49 BB, fold, Can you believe people were telling the hero the right play was call call call. How do You NOT make a major raise on the flop with Two Pair INCLUDING Top Pair. Then to add insult to injury the hero Raises the turn with a card that isnt particularly scarey. You agree ?
CrushlivePoker Hmmm seems like you're targeting 3 or so hands (AQ,AJ,A10). Really a weird spot to bluff or value bet. Seems like check calling as a bluff catcher is the most optimal play.
Heres the problem with the first hand. Its very hard for you to represent a bluff when you lead out on the river and you need to be able to do that to get value against these competent opponents. You called a flop bet on this multiway flop oop, which is already strong and you dont have the As or even T9 either cause that makes a pair too. I would check the river too here.
Hey Bart! Never say never... I'm pretty sick sometimes and here's a boss af line I took the other day: 5-10-20. Mega fish makes it 120 utg +1. LAG in CO calls, TAG on button calls. We make it 400 in sb w/ AdJh. Spot folds, others call. Flop is Kh9dTd. We c-bet 400 blocking a lot of strong hands w/ okay equity (thoughts?). Btn calls. Turn is the Ah. We check for pot control. He bets 800. I pick up some strong tells and figure I don't have the best hand...but I have outs, and the Ad and can perfectly rep diamonds here. I call. River is the 7d and I lead 1400. He has 1700 back and tank folds... #fishorbeast? What do you think?
Because most will take their showdown value and just call, you have to be good enough to know youre top pair of Aces is no good. You also have to structure it from the beginning. Torelli would have bet the flop if he intended to bluff.
It rounds to 0. He’d have to hit runner runner 5,5 sets 88 already hit a set. With the players remaining the odds are about .1% it will go 5,5. It would literally take 1000 run outs for it to go 55. So rounded to 0.
Why did u show ur AK b4 Anthony mucked? U called him. Doesn't he show or muck 1st? You now gave away info that you will ride the A and never saw his Q10. Why?
He probably said "you're good" after Bart called. So he just showed because he's nice and doesn't wanna make the other guy show his trash hand. This is what you should do if you want someone to come back and keep playing with you rather than be a dick and ask him to show his trash. Then he might not want to play there anymore due to embarrassment. And Bart had ace high so he still gets some information that it was in fact a bluff without a pair.
Hand with the AcKc, you could even go to a higher level on the end and reraise. If you think he is bluff raising, you could extract a further raise by reraising his bluff raise and win a huge pot with AK high :D
+Miyamoto Musashi that doesnt even make any sense. If you think he is bluff raising, whats the point of raising his bluff when he will not call it. At that point he is going to fold or go all in, which in most cases, he will fold.
+Miyamoto Musashi Thats risky. And in the long run it will be bad. at the point there is no point to induce a further raise with just ace high. You'll just askin to go broke.
Whaaaaa.. what do you think he is calling with if Bart reraises that he beats? What if he shoves all in? No one bluff shoves live, and then Bart ends up losing half his stack with a bad raise when he could have just called.
Bart is a beast
One of the greatest
I like how at 20:31 the 8c turns into the Qd. Gotta fix that up!
It's the 4h before that too.
The AK river call was great. Anthony with the classic lean back and stare at you with disgust like, how can you make that call?
It's called a soul read buddy.
This is just an insane fold... I would never fold this hand on a low stakes game - this is really world class folding
Watching this now in 2021 wow awesome hands.
Great analysis Bart. Gives me more to think about
Bart made folding three eights look easy
In weird timing I just watch Wes’ VLOG where Albert DOES turn the bare ace into a bluff - but obviously without the red Ace on the board!
Bart, on the AK hand…. you said you were planning on betting rivers for value to represent a busted flush draw. The flush comes through, and you bet for value anyway. Your opponent would have to think you are bluffing to call you with AT, AJ, or AQ, but what can he put you on that AJ beats?
That player would just call do to pot odds.
I’m also not understand you wouldn’t have “many suited cards” in your range here.
Hey Bart, quick question on the first hand, why were you able to eliminate 99-KK (no spade) which is now turning the hand into a bluff? If he were to have that range, you could have a lot of AsX that he could be trying to fold out with a river bluff raise. Other than that range (which is also heavily discounted for not cbetting flop) I agree that this looks very nutted. Big props on the fold.
because it wudnt be a bluff...
The old school video music makes me feel like I'm in elementary school watching educational videos in the 90s. 🙃
you really do great work, bart. thanks a lot.
in the hand vs. Torrelli, do you call a min raise there? at what size do you start folding?
On the AK hand, Burt showed his hand even though he was calling. The other fellow never showed his hand. I’m wondering if this is because he’s an amateur so Burt plays in a friendly way? If a pro did this, would he wait for the other fellow to show his hand?
At 3:10 Bart says that it’s very strange that Torelli over calls the flop bet by Glantz after Bart calls, can anyone explain to me WHY it’s such a strange move? Can’t he just call with the hopes of his opponents doing the betting for him on future streets? There’s only gonna be a small handful of cards that he doesn’t like on the turn and River right?
It's not strange if you know his hand... It's strange if he had any other hand that would want to continue.
All other draws etc (that want to continue) would raise or would have lead out.
Anything else (not a strong made hand or strong draw) would have folded.
Hey Bart, on the last hand with one card up, why do you think its best to check your entire range on the flop? with a 9 up, he can only have 99/A9 or may be Q9/J9. But only 99 beats your AJ. But if he actually had 99, dont you think betting on the flop is our only way of taking the pot down? Coz thats the only way we can represent JJ. And if he doesnt have 99, I dont think he is going to commit any more money in any way not matter when you bet unless he hits is hole card. So i think a flop bet would also work as equity denial from a Q/J/9 rolling off on the turn. Why not just bet now and give ourselves the most chance to take the pot down?
Bart, at around 5:56 you say "no one turns A x into a bluff" - what exactly does that mean
He means the majority of people would just call or fold with Ax (which is a pair of aces on the turn). Which means that when someone raises they're representing either better than Ax or complete air.
matt janda agrees that you don't need to think about what you're going to do if you get raised until it happens.
i like how Deeb tried to act super comfortable to make it seem like he has 99 cuz he didnt get snapped so he thinks hes good (then again Bart should think for like 5min n call with JJ for the payback slowroll)
Jesus these videos are great. Bart is scary smart. Ready Alec like a fucking childrens book
I think the right play with the AJ is to bet small on the flop, then jam turn. He is capped, you are not, therefore you should be exploiting that fact by valuebetting and bluffing mercilessly. He is guaranteed to lose if you bet at correct bluff frequency. Capitalize on your range advantage!
Wrong
you are the best player on that table tbh, really good thinking man
+mr glitch Alec Torelli is way better.
+John Smith Both really good players. All I can say about it is that I am surprised about Glantz's play
mr glitch Rep is also a great player.
Turning Stone is where I play all the time
How does he know these guys are 3 betting light all the time... when I play at the casino, 3 bet usually means AA or KK
It's all player dependent. Usually at lower stakes people will not 3 bet enough, so like you say, they will usually have a high pair. You have to know who you're playing against, what kind of hands they've shown down when they 3 bet, how many times you've seen them 3 bet, their mental state (tilted or not) and you will get a more accurate measure of the chance that they're 3 betting light.
@@benforshizzle People will usually not 3-bet because a standard 3-bet will invite half the table to call at low stakes.
@@DoctorChained and what's the problem with half the table calling with garbage? Sounds like a good thing.
If you are 3 betting with good hands only you will win more than them. And will dominate their garbage hands in some situations.
Why do the pocket 5s show 0% on the flop in the first hand? He could still have made quads.
Was so confused when the board turned into Q high
IT's a great laydown by Bart with the set of 8s yet I still disagree with his reasoning. "Alec is NEVER bluffing with just the Ace of spades". WHY NOT? Bart seems to think a lone Ace is plenty of showdown value and he wouldn't need to bluff. Um, exsqueeze me but a rather tight player led out on the river on THIS board. The WEAKEST hand I'm putting Bart on is an Ace and my nine kicker is not likely to hold. It's beat by all reasonable Ace hands (A10, AJ, AQ, AK). Now a looser player might be leading out with JJs, QQs, then fine you can just call. Still, it was a great fold.
Love the insight!
I'm working on taking my time also Bart.. I act too fast imo.
like your video....on some other videos (by other people) I cant believe some of the advice.
Hero (BTN): 208 BB
SB: 118.2 BB (VPIP: 21.43, PFR: 21.43, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 29)
BB: 287.4 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 5)
UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 20)
MP: 100 BB (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)
CO: 100 BB
SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has K A
fold, fold, CO raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 9 BB, fold, fold, CO calls 6 BB
Flop: (19.4 BB, 2 players) Q A Q
CO bets 6 BB, Hero calls 6 BB
Turn: (31.4 BB, 2 players) 8
CO bets 6 BB, Hero raises to 27 BB, CO calls 21 BB
River: (85.4 BB, 2 players) 9
CO bets 49 BB, fold,
Can you believe people were telling the hero the right play was call call call.
How do You NOT make a major raise on the flop with Two Pair INCLUDING Top Pair.
Then to add insult to injury the hero Raises the turn with a card that isnt particularly scarey.
You agree ?
I think you did before you replied back...haha
Bravo, nice hands
Is this the Turning Stone in upstate NY?
Yes, Verona NY. Between Syracuse and Utica.. Bart
CrushlivePoker Thanks! Im stationed in Ft Drum and plan on playing 2/5 nl over the weekends at Turning Stones
Value from what exactly with the AK? AJ?
If you are talking about the AK hand, value fro worse ace hi s
CrushlivePoker Hmmm seems like you're targeting 3 or so hands (AQ,AJ,A10). Really a weird spot to bluff or value bet. Seems like check calling as a bluff catcher is the most optimal play.
Heres the problem with the first hand. Its very hard for you to represent a bluff when you lead out on the river and you need to be able to do that to get value against these competent opponents. You called a flop bet on this multiway flop oop, which is already strong and you dont have the As or even T9 either cause that makes a pair too. I would check the river too here.
I say you challenge bart to heads up
Bart and Deeb look like brothers
Hey Bart! Never say never... I'm pretty sick sometimes and here's a boss af line I took the other day: 5-10-20. Mega fish makes it 120 utg +1. LAG in CO calls, TAG on button calls. We make it 400 in sb w/ AdJh. Spot folds, others call. Flop is Kh9dTd. We c-bet 400 blocking a lot of strong hands w/ okay equity (thoughts?). Btn calls. Turn is the Ah. We check for pot control. He bets 800. I pick up some strong tells and figure I don't have the best hand...but I have outs, and the Ad and can perfectly rep diamonds here. I call. River is the 7d and I lead 1400. He has 1700 back and tank folds... #fishorbeast? What do you think?
first hand: why does he say no one is gonna turn Ax into a bluff?
and what is over calling?
Because he’s not good enough to turn Ax into a bluff
Because most will take their showdown value and just call, you have to be good enough to know youre top pair of Aces is no good. You also have to structure it from the beginning. Torelli would have bet the flop if he intended to bluff.
why does it say guy with 5 5 0% what about quads , still 2 cards left.
mcpartridgeboy I think the cards take into account other holdings preflop that may not necessarily have populated on the screen. Bart
It rounds to 0. He’d have to hit runner runner 5,5 sets 88 already hit a set. With the players remaining the odds are about .1% it will go 5,5. It would literally take 1000 run outs for it to go 55. So rounded to 0.
@CrushlivePoker I feel like you are trolling me now 20:15 20:30
AKc hand why he bets xx spade on the turn u fold pairs????never.
to the opponent it looked like a weak blocker. a bet if 2.5 of pot will seal the deal for him.
Why did u show ur AK b4 Anthony mucked? U called him. Doesn't he show or muck 1st? You now gave away info that you will ride the A and never saw his Q10. Why?
He probably said "you're good" after Bart called. So he just showed because he's nice and doesn't wanna make the other guy show his trash hand. This is what you should do if you want someone to come back and keep playing with you rather than be a dick and ask him to show his trash. Then he might not want to play there anymore due to embarrassment. And Bart had ace high so he still gets some information that it was in fact a bluff without a pair.
So no one in the games I play in are capable of making those plays aye? Ok..
Hand with the AcKc, you could even go to a higher level on the end and reraise. If you think he is bluff raising, you could extract a further raise by reraising his bluff raise and win a huge pot with AK high :D
+Miyamoto Musashi that doesnt even make any sense. If you think he is bluff raising, whats the point of raising his bluff when he will not call it. At that point he is going to fold or go all in, which in most cases, he will fold.
The idea is to induce a further raise.
+Miyamoto Musashi Thats risky. And in the long run it will be bad. at the point there is no point to induce a further raise with just ace high. You'll just askin to go broke.
+Miyamoto Musashi Thats the dumbest thing Ive ever heard
Whaaaaa.. what do you think he is calling with if Bart reraises that he beats? What if he shoves all in? No one bluff shoves live, and then Bart ends up losing half his stack with a bad raise when he could have just called.
I’m not that guy pal
I'd have bet the flop vs Hanson. Bring in $$. The only card he leads is a 9. The board is dry. Deeb made a dumb bet. U should've bet the flop.