Interesting fact the actor who played Michael in the gas station during Halloween 4 also played Leather-face and Jason meaning he got to play all three of these iconic characters
Heres a better interesting fact: The Roman Empire fulfilled the Role of The beast from the sea in Revelation 13 (Revelation 17 confirms that it is Rome). With that in mind we can conclude that A) The world leaders and governments have been conspiring together for the last 2500 years to fulfill the roadmap that is in the Bible B) Jesus is the Son of God and can tell the future or make it happen. The fact that Biblical prophecy is still unfolding (such as the rebirth of Israel in 1948 or the coming digital currency) should raise some flags. Repent of your sins now and pray for God to intervene in your life. The world as we know it is headed towards destruction. If you have any questions about scripture feel free to ask me
I know the curse bit sounds silly, but this iteration of Michael Myers is absolutely terrifying. Seemingly limitless invincibility and strength combined with his lack of emotion and total disregard for life, not to mention that he has no motive but to kill his entire bloodline, makes him an absolutely horrifying foe.
But… he does, doesn’t he? The entire motive of murdering his family line is to be free from Thorn and gain his self back. This isn’t technically evil, is it? The 40 Year Timeline one is without a doubt evil, but this one… idk?
I think that when the woman said "he walks amongst us, brother. he's back and he's very angry" means that she sensed that the original Micheal Myers finally got the control over his own body (for a moment, I suppose) and he drew all his will and strength to kill those who placed a course on him in order to get revenge for making him kill his sister and all those people against his will and right after killing them, he was consumed by the curse once again ☺️
@@ghostgamingxd7881 yes because, One time when the mask was removed, his niece saw him cry even though the face is still. like you're having the emotions but can't move on your own
The fact that he dressed up as bob and even used the glasses proves to me that Michael definitely has a sense of humor. Add his car to the mix and Annie would definitely love that guy
He doesn't have a "sense of humour". He obviously did it as a way of fooling with her, tormenting her psychologically before he kills her, because to her, that "Bob" moron just randomly snapped out of the blue (They both deserved to die anyway, the losers). If anything, he wants to torment them and confuse them as a way of making them suffer first.
The only horror series timeline more complicated than Halloween is Texas Chainsaw Massacre. All the sequels to the original 1974 film are alternate follow ups to the first one that ignore each other. 4 original series continuities with the prequel to the remake and the remake itself being a separate 5th one.
The cult thing /demon thing bothered me I liked it better that he was just this unstoppable murderer who just killed to kill. But when you make so many movies you gotta add more stuff so I get it.
They got the cult idea from the Halloween novelzation plus carpenter never intended for Michael to be immortal just to be a man with some supernatural powers controlled by an evil spirit and carpenter truely intended for Myers and loomis to die in h2 but h3 doing terrible and carpenter selling the rights Akkad made him immortal h4 and on
As someone that survived nearly being crushed to death, I can attest, it's genuinely one of the worst experiences. First, you get the nice bit of pain. Second you stop being able to physically breath as you can't inflate your lungs. And all that comes with it. Was horrible. I got lucky and the wind shifted enough rubble after the tornado that caused the entire thing, that I was able to breath once again. But words can't describe how terrible it was.
@@wadepower1 Thank you. Yeah, I nearly died 3 or 4 times that night. I'm divided on if I was super lucky, or really misfortunate. But that's its own conversation.
@@NeiasaurusCreations No I got it. You're wondering if you were lucky to have survived or if you were incredibly unlucky to have had to go through the experience to begin with.
@@amyschildgamerlive4519 Not quite. I'm unlucky enough to have survived. Because of the permenant spinal damage, I'm in constant agony every minute of every day. With heavy pain meds like fentanyl and morphine cutting like 10-25% of my pain tops. And other things like pot doing nothing for me. I also deal with nerve damage to my entire right side. I can only do a fraction of the physical stuff I used to do before. So when I say I'm unlucky, I mean that I'm unlucky it didn't finish the job. Instead leaving me half-dead, in constant suffering for the rest of my life with no chance it'll ever get better. If anything this is the best years I'll have, before I get older and secondary conditions start setting in, and I become more and more resistant to the heavy pain meds I rely on for any type of quality of life. Eventually coming to a point where they'll do practically nothing, and my pain will over take any treatment options I have. I wish it would've just finished the job, saved me decades of suffering pointlessly.
There is a comic series that reveals what happened to Michael Myers after. Michael found out that Laurie faked her death, similar to the H20 timeline, and he went to find her again. This time, she beheads him, similar to the ending of H20. But unlike the H20 timeline where it was revealed to be a paramedic under the mask, Laurie in the original timeline truly does succeed in killing Michael. However, with Laurie being traumatized, she puts on Micheal's mask and becomes just like him. Laurie would later be caught and sent to Smith's Grove Sanitarium. All what Laurie ever does anymore while there is just stare out her window just like Michael used to do when he was there.
Dr. Loomis needs to stop correcting you since he’s the one pronouncing words wrong. This video might be my new favorite. That’ll likely change when your next one drops. I also liked the video you did with Halloween expert Jimmy Champane. It’s always awesome when Horror UA-camrs collaborate.
Just a little theory if you don't mind: did you ever think that Michael was kinda relieved that he was freed from the curse but was actually pissed off because he doesn't really have a family to go back to or he just goes back to the psychiatric hospital where he spent all of his childhood and didn't really get the actual 'normal' experience what other people have already experienced through child to adult years. I mean i'd be pissed too if I just killed my whole family just to break the curse because then that means I won't be taught what actually it means to be human being. So what was Michael really doing all this for? other than just trying to break the curse of thorn or he just has a mind of 6 year old boy and was just easily manipulated? Idk what do you think?
Consider this Michael is severely traumatized by what he's been forced to do. Hence, why he never speaks and is so introverted. It was the demon that forced him to kill all those people but Michael is still inside fighting it. That would explain why he doesn't kill some people and times. You could argue that the picture and writing at the school were actually warnings from Michael trying to fight back. What other purpose would there be for him to do this? This even explains his slow pace.
Some people have made the claim that he is an insensitive autistic man, incapable of any genuine feeling but somehow loves the feeling of flesh being either cut or flayed by him. Which has some sort of weird sense he was purposely stabbing someone in this latest movie over and over again.
Here's a little theory: I think that after Michael killed Jamie, the curse took over that final human part of him. Turning him into pure unfiltered evil. The cult believed that after Michael killed his bloodline, he would be relieved of the curse. (this theory has a lot of holes so bear with me.) But instead it drove him to pure evil, in effect turning him into a demon/pure evil.
Here is something that is not a theory: The Roman Empire fulfilled the Role of The beast from the sea in Revelation 13 (Revelation 17 confirms that it is Rome). With that in mind we can conclude that A) The world leaders and governments have been conspiring together for the last 2500 years to fulfill the roadmap that is in the Bible B) Jesus is the Son of God and can tell the future or make it happen. The fact that Biblical prophecy is still unfolding (such as the rebirth of Israel in 1948 or the coming digital currency) should raise some flags. Repent of your sins now and pray for God to intervene in your life. The world as we know it is headed towards destruction. If you have any questions about scripture feel free to ask me Belief in Jesus alone does not give you eternal life, you have to obey Him and become born again John 3:3, John 3:36
I don’t think so, mainly because he never killed Jamie’s baby. That baby continues his timeline. I think it would be him under the influence of the curse, or fighting back against it going savage. He’s been cursed his whole life so Michael Myers. If he was not ‘cursed’ for even a second he probably is still a very angry man with a knife. He knows nothing else. Cool theory tho!
I don't like the "kills because he's a cult assassin" or "kills because of an abusive upbringing" timelines that much. The thing that makes him so scary is that he kills for no reason.
There has to be a reason and I feel like they'll explain it all in Halloween Ends. It's somethin about that tower that everybody keeps starin' at from out of Michael's sister's room window( Michael, that cop in the 70s scene, Laurie's daughter). My theory is that it's givin off some kinda mind warping signals and may also have somethin' to do with the Thorne curse on Michael. His random killing has to be explained! What's the source?!
I agree. What makes these types of horror movie villains the scariest is that they don't really have a motive or reason to kill. They do it just because they can.
Halloween 2 (1981) is actually my favorite in the franchise. For me they got everything perfect. From the atmosphere to the music to the creepy factor everything was hitting
Jamie is one of my favorite characters in the series because she brings a fresh take to the movies. She doesn’t want to kill Michael, she wants to reconcile with him because she knows his true self is still there somewhere. She seems a lot like Michael, atleast in the sense that she can relate to him kind of, idk I just like it
I like the theory that there still related in the new timeline, but I think it’s better to leave them as non-sibling because it makes it more scary, because now Michael has no mortal and has no reason to go after Laurie and that’s what makes it realistic because it could actually happen to someone.
No not related. John carpenter himself said he absolutely hated the idea of he and Laurie being siblings. He said it was too non sensical. They actually reiterate this later in I think Halloween kills when it's revealed thar micheal was never hunting Laurie she just kept interfering
Not really. Michael is kind of just brought to her in H18. She goes into full lockdown to try and avoid him. However it is clear once he meets Laurie again that he does in some manner want revenge for the injuries she inflicted onto him. If Michael had just been set free he'd have likely rampaged until some other force stopped him again.@@kaitlynlindsay6265
I don't know if maybe it's because I love the Halloween movies, but this seriously seems like the best video you've put out in a while. It was so informative and funny, and I was genuinely disappointed when it was over. Seriously amazing, and I can't wait to see what's next!!
Its good only problem I have is yes in the orginal timeline michael is immortal bout in the first 2 movies carpenters intent was for him to be a man with some supernatural other wise michael was just a vessel for evil at the end of Halloween 2 they where supposed to die after h3 and carpenter and hill sold the rights to Akkad Akkad made him immortal so michael can’t die on screen
Quite a random thought but if Michael was cursed by Thorn to murder his entire family, why didn't he attack his parents when they found him standing outside of the house?
I think it's the mask being taken off forces him into a catatonic state because the mask is like the demon's face while he himself is seperate which is why he's shocked in part 1 when it gets taken off the actual micheal was taking over but the demon pushed him back down when he put the mask back on
I like to think that Michael was a normal kid before Halloween 1963. I've heard different takes on it, but to me it's more mysterious that way than that he was always a psychopath.
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“Suddenly, having blonde hair for some reason.” This made me laugh harder than it should have. What a bizarre continuity error. Thank you for the laugh!
I still think everything he was taught starts at Smithsgrove from driving to being very aware of his surroundings, because he actually did know who Laurie was because the hospital had the family files hidden away, and when he got old enough they let Mike go so he can terrorize his town, but the thorn possession sounds very credible also to his not being able to die because of it
I believe Michael killed Nurse Alves before he killed Bud and Karen, because we see some blood dripping on a black floor during Laurie's dream sequence (that looks identical to the floor of the room that Alves was killed in) right before Michael kills them
The thorn is actually lifted from runic writing, which was pointy rather than rounded. Runes were made of straight lines and not curves because they were chiseled into stone and carved into wood, which makes curves more complicated and difficult. The thorn was carried over by Latin and French speaking scribes to denote a sound that doesn’t exist in either source language (th). This is also why there weren’t many written records-they mostly used stone and wood rather than paper-and why English doesn’t seem so phonetic. The sounds are represented by a foreign script, not the native runic one.
I honestly wished they used Ogham. Even if it's Pictish and not Irish. Would've made more sense. Could still be handwaved as cross pollination between Germanic and Celt cultures in antiquity as we know so little about both groups other than biased Greco-Roman propaganda.
I think the cult offered Michael's soul and body to Thorn. Thorn first took the soul, the possessed the body. I think Michael is legitimately dead, and the reason the curse doesn't disconnect when it's not Halloween is that part of Thorn stays in the body until he's done, then the body drops dead. Odds are likely the body stays in a catatonic state because Thorn only gives it one purpose. It can't speak, feel emotion, or think. Thorn isn't human, it can't understand humanity. The only reason it wants the sacrifices is likely that Halloween, the day when the barriers are loose is the only time he can get a hold of them, is because he is a spirit of harvest, and harvest means killing. Whether it's plants, people, or animals. He likely also probably gains power to influence the world without a host. Which the way he uses autonomy is beneficial to life. Perhaps as an ethereal thing Thorn simply wants to exist, given it has no life of its own this is the only way it can remain. It has to kill to have power, it has to have power to effect change. This Thorn is more idea than being. Otherwise couple notes, perhaps Thorn is trying to understand the human body. Hence why acts of affection confuse him. Next is the truck at the end of Halloween 3 had a clutch pedal and auto shift lever.
Bro, your videos have literally been getting me through my week. Thank you for doing such a great job. The care you put into each of these videos is absolutely commendable.
Hilariously the rune they call Thorn is an actual Norse rune, also called Thorr/Thorrn, which in old English is of course Thorn, and that rune *does* act as a symbol for a being...but that being is Thorr/Thor - a *protector* of men, who had an epithet that translates to 'friend of Midgard' they probably just picked a random symbol but the situation is funny to me
"friend of Midgard" is also, or rumoured, friend of the land. Man is not a friend of the land, we are a virus of the land. We use the land to make ourselves better, it CAN be said that the thorn protects the land from man.
I was confused at the middle name Audrey because I remember his middle initial being M in Halloween 4 on his patient form. I looked it up to be sure I was remembering correctly. Seems that a crew member mistakenly put M as the initial
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been addicted to this film series ever since i started liking michael instead of being terrified of him! very cool take on the films and the insights we get during the movies. Ive always done this in my head and with friends but have never seen such a well put together video on michael! thank you for making this video! subbed
you can also make the observation of how when it was mentioned Michael stole some rope from the hardware store, it was used to hang bob’s swinging dead body later BUT however in Halloween Kills when Michael attacked the police officer in the 1978 flashback - he was choking him with a rope. cool thing i noticed.
I feel like in the first movie he doesn't get them immediately because in the killing of his older sister he watches them from the shadows first (particularly when they are doing something intimate) then kills them. Which makes sense in character because he is trying to mimic it.
If there is a three year age gap between Michael and Laurie, there's a chance Michael remembered he had another sister or at least another sibling even if Laurie couldn't since he was six years old when he killed Judith. Long term memories start developing in the brain after the age of five years old, That's why its rare for humans to remember before they were five no matter how old they are.
I think the reason why he didn't kill his sister straight away is because he still has a small side of him that's still human. That's why he wants to go back to his childhood home and just watches his sister instead of killing her, like he has a internal conflict between Michael as a child and the rage from the curse. If he wasn't human at all he wouldn't want to go back to his home because he wouldn't have any memories or attachment to it
I don’t get why people don’t like the original timeline with The Cult of Thorn. It makes total sense of why Michael Myers kills, he doesn’t do it for no reason, he does it because he’s been possessed! I’m sorry but I like it when things are explained and showing the true story of why people turn into murderers.
They should have transported Michael in a car with a manual stick shift instead of an automatic transmission. Michael would have bunny hopped and stalled, and then have to walk to Hadonfield.
Bless your heart, but these Danny McBride written H movies are smart ass, meta garbage that need to be disregarded; or just treated as fan fiction, cash grabs. You can't rewrite a saga 40 years after it debuts.
I had actually liked the idea of the curse of Thorn, but what started off as interesting became too much of the focus towards then and really just seemed to dilute the character of Myres. The Jamie character was a pretty good route with her connecting to Michael wish they did more with that connection, and played more with how the bloodline can inherit the curse
I feel it would have been more interesting to have him be freed from/break the curse but still go on killing. Showing that despite being freed from it he was no longer human.
IN MICHAEL'S DEFENSE.... When Lori shoots him somewhere though the eye holes of his mask, his motions are actually pretty accurate. Now to a person who's never been in a fight, it may look silly.. But when your eyes have blood running in them, you cannot see.. And after taking a big blow to the head, a loud ringing noise fills your ears and that's all you can hear. Now im only referring to a good puch from another man, compared to Michael being shot twice in the head lol, i think he recovered pretty quick. You can verify everything i just said by asking any person who's ever competed in combat sports. They'll know exactly what im talking about.
Michael killing those kids in the comics could be the Thorn Demon ("The Shape?") acting up and wanting human sacrifices as it's buying time (maybe waiting until Laurie was closer to Judith's age), or it could just be that Michael is a demented psychopath himself, and the Demonic curse was just a match made in heaven, and they both fed off of each other. Maybe the Thorn Demon is in all three timelines, but it just likes to let Michael do his thing, from time-to-time while aiding him with some invulnerability on occasion.
I think the latter could be accurate. Like his murders he committed while possessed left him numb to the idea of taking a human life so he would do it when pissed off on top of the possessed kills.
Dude, you do an amazing job not only the Halloween series, but all of the others I have watched. Just wanted to thank you for your dedication and hard work. 👊🏼
The Thorn character is a rune that looks exactly like the character used in the movies. Straight lines and sharp corners were easier to carve into wood or stones than curvy lines, or at least more consistent.
I remember you mentioning in another video talking his 40 year timeline, that he was an outcast and how that’s part of what started the curse of him! I’m still convinced that that’s still part of the reason he is so hateful and psychotic in the whole series.
This is my favorite movie series of ALL TIME. Never thought I’d find anything about this series that I liked from a commentary standpoint but I found this. Great video!!!!
we need to start a petition to get a TV show started that covers the curse of Thorn WITHOUT Michael Myers so that all the people who hated the Thorn stuff can move on and leave us alone while we watch a series of episodes with a no name serial killer and some crazy druids INCLUDING the soul sucking Halloween mask plot.
Well they're thinking about turning the Halloween franchise back into an anthology series like they tried to do with Season of the Witch. So I hope they do a sequel/reboot of SotW and maybe make a cult inspired movie
Man these guys should have their own series on a streaming service… I would pay 💰 for the subscription.. the amount of research and efforts and marketing is just mind blowing
One thing I've always hoped for was that they reveal Jamie Lloyd's father, you know, a backstory of sorts. For years I've been speculating that it's Jimmy, the EMT in Halloween 2 that appears to have a crush on Laurie. Not to mention the father of Jamie's baby. Over the past few years I've heard some real nasty, morbid theories about that. But I don't wanna post what I heard on UA-cam. Thanks so much CZsWorld for this incredibly detailed timeline about Michael Myers. I commend you as well for going almost an hour on this. Kudos to you for soldiering through it. Bravo! 👏
It always disappointed me how this series wasted Jamie. She could’ve had a great arc where she grows up to ultimately face her evil uncle whose actions ruined her life before she was even born. It’s just to bad they dropped the ball so badly in H5 and H6.
Focus on God instead of the things in this world. Check it out: The Roman Empire fulfilled the Role of The beast from the sea in Revelation 13 (Revelation 17 confirms that it is Rome). With that in mind we can conclude that A) The world leaders and governments have been conspiring together for the last 2500 years to fulfill the roadmap that is in the Bible B) Jesus is the Son of God and can tell the future or make it happen. The fact that Biblical prophecy is still unfolding (such as the rebirth of Israel in 1948 or the coming digital currency) should raise some flags. Repent of your sins now and pray for God to intervene in your life. The world as we know it is headed towards destruction. If you have any questions about scripture feel free to ask me Belief in Jesus alone does not give you eternal life, you have to obey Him and become born again John 3:3, John 3:36
Michael's middle name was Aubrey, not Audrey. I could be wrong, but I've always heard it as Aubrey. I mean, what mother would name her son Audrey. I haven't personally met a guy named the latter......Otherwise, nice job. I like backstories on most criminals & scary psychopaths. Could u plse do a backstory on the demon, in Jeepers Creepers. That would be awesome.🎃🧡🎃 Thank u.
While the paranormal aspect is interesting, I always enjoyed the more psychological take on Michael. That's why I love the first movie. It's creepier with the realistic take and it also makes Michael more interesting as a character because we won't be blaming some demon. That's my own personal opinion but regardless, Michael is still my favorite slasher.
I totally agree with you, knowing that there was just something...off about him was ambiguous and unsettling and I like that it was never really explained. I saw this shit in the early 80s when I was 8 or so, my dad let me watch it with him when my mom was visiting a relative and it scared the bejesus out of me! I still remember that my dad asked me to go out and lock our backyard gate, but it was DARK out there, and I had just seen the scariest movie known to man! I stood at the door, looking out into the darkness and I just could not do it! And so my obsession with scary movies was born! At the perfect moment in time as well, as the 80s will always be the ultimate horror decade!
100% agree!! One of the scariest things about Michael Myers is that he’s more realistic than even Jason and Freddie. Like, a kid could really go crazy and stab his sister to death. Then escape from an asylum years later and go back to his hometown and start massacring people. That could actually happen. Which makes it super scary imo.
This reminds me of hereditary where the evil is passed down cause the demon wanted a male host. In this case its based passed down a lot longer but still contained to this one family lol. Or like in paranormal activity its similar story lol. Maybe they're all connected lol.
This was such a great wrap up of the original series, loving this material! Thank you and the team for all the time and energy ya'll put into each video!
Thank You for putting all of this together🎃 Halloween 6 is something of a dark horse in this series, but one of my favorites. So, it’s a cool watch seeing someone connect it to explain Myers’ bizarre power
The Thorn symbol used looks very much like a Nordic rune, which actually makes sense when you see the similarities between Celtic and Nordic mythologies
Just found your videos and I can't stop watching! Very indepth information along with funny writing but goddamn the editing!! Chef's kiss!! You're killing it! Don't ever stop 💜🙌🙏
Focus on God and not the things of this world that will perish. Check it out: The Roman Empire fulfilled the Role of The beast from the sea in Revelation 13 (Revelation 17 confirms that it is Rome). With that in mind we can conclude that A) The world leaders and governments have been conspiring together for the last 2500 years to fulfill the roadmap that is in the Bible B) Jesus is the Son of God and can tell the future or make it happen. The fact that Biblical prophecy is still unfolding (such as the rebirth of Israel in 1948 or the coming digital currency) should raise some flags. Repent of your sins now and pray for God to intervene in your life. The world as we know it is headed towards destruction. If you have any questions about scripture feel free to ask me Belief in Jesus alone does not give you eternal life, you have to obey Him and become born again John 3:3, John 3:36
I do think the mask plays an important part bc the mask give his a sense of power. The mask hides his face giving him the confidence that he needs, without it he may become less successful due to his insecurities and vulnerabilities from being picked on as a child and burnt face. I think he becomes stronger with each person he kills which builds up his immortality which requires him to need less down time when he get injured. So..eventually Michael realizes the strength gained by each kill and MAYBE the amount of strength he receives is determined by the age his victim and that's why be didn't kill the old folks. His victims do tend to be on the younger side, I'd say child to age 35 and seems to only kill older people when be finds it necessary to remove them from the equation to simplify his ultimate goal.
Me and my husband would talk hours about this stuff. I know he would have loved this channel. I miss him so much. Thank you for doing this. From a person who is grieving: this has helped me so much.
I always felt sort of bad that 6 year old Michael had to deal with 60s-70s mental health treatments. Like, even without a curse, 15 years of that and I'd probably be pretty messed up too.
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My theory about Michael killing the cult members is that maybe it's possible that the cult lied and still wanted to control Michael and use him as a pet
The theatrical version is not the true film meant to be released. The producers cut is the true one which makes sense since he was part of the cult in that one
Y'all ever notice how calm his parents are finding their son with a butcher knife covered in blood? I'm a mother. I'd have been screaming on the street about wtf happened and why my child is holding a bloody butcher knife and hauling arse into the house to find out what else is wrong!!! lol The parents just stand there, "duhhhh".....
The comics can just be its own timeline too in a way but yeah I consider every timeine canon its just different. They all share one thing he just doesn't die and is this supernatural being either way with zombies being an exception.
@@CZsWorld haha true 👍 🤣 Halloween can also be looked at as the DC and Marvel of horror franchises with the multiple timelines 😅 Chucky is one of thebfew with one main continuity. Have you done or thought about a chucky updated one with the series and all?
@@jimbowlan5804 There were films not directed by Don within his universe but overseen by him. Also one reason Halloween has multiple timelines is partially carpenter's fault as he left the series early on so naturally others jumped on it being an iconic horror character. There is the child's play reboot that has nothing to do with Mancini's universe due to MGM having the rights to the name Child's Play. Its the same thing with Zombie's Halloween based off the same characters but different interpretation entirely.
The bit where he cries reminds me of get out like the real Michael is in there but he's in the sunken place just watching everything. Kinda like demonic possession in supernatural. Maybe Jaime could get to him cause if their connection. She can see what he sees and can get into his head to let out real Michael for a second like in get out a flash lets out real person for a second but then the dominant personality takes over again. Also kinda reminds me of look away where a girl decides to switch placed with her doppelganger in the mirror. So switching with her she's stuck in the mirror watching everything happens while her mirror shelf runs amok lol. Reminds me if Dr Loomis in Halloween two talking about our fear of the darkness inside ourselves in our subconscious. Is that where all this came from he thought from his subconscious or his id lol
It must be tricky for Michael to sneak around when he has an orchestra following him around
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Interesting fact the actor who played Michael in the gas station during Halloween 4 also played Leather-face and Jason meaning he got to play all three of these iconic characters
When did he play LeatherFace?
@@Batwing20293 he was a stunt double for him during the bridge scene in the second film
Heres a better interesting fact: The Roman Empire fulfilled the Role of The beast from the sea in Revelation 13 (Revelation 17 confirms that it is Rome). With that in mind we can conclude that A) The world leaders and governments have been conspiring together for the last 2500 years to fulfill the roadmap that is in the Bible B) Jesus is the Son of God and can tell the future or make it happen. The fact that Biblical prophecy is still unfolding (such as the rebirth of Israel in 1948 or the coming digital currency) should raise some flags. Repent of your sins now and pray for God to intervene in your life. The world as we know it is headed towards destruction. If you have any questions about scripture feel free to ask me
@@FreightmareFTW Shut up.
@@FreightmareFTW ,what a crock of shit,and you also used the word "interesting" wrong at the beginning of your sermon,because it definatly is NOT!!!!!
I know the curse bit sounds silly, but this iteration of Michael Myers is absolutely terrifying. Seemingly limitless invincibility and strength combined with his lack of emotion and total disregard for life, not to mention that he has no motive but to kill his entire bloodline, makes him an absolutely horrifying foe.
Also makes him a shite character
@@BossSlayerGaming do yk shite is a different version of shit?
But… he does, doesn’t he? The entire motive of murdering his family line is to be free from Thorn and gain his self back. This isn’t technically evil, is it? The 40 Year Timeline one is without a doubt evil, but this one… idk?
@@mul-el3657dude I thought his motive was just killing all the females in his bloodline due to his issues with his mother
Agreed
I think that when the woman said "he walks amongst us, brother. he's back and he's very angry" means that she sensed that the original Micheal Myers finally got the control over his own body (for a moment, I suppose) and he drew all his will and strength to kill those who placed a course on him in order to get revenge for making him kill his sister and all those people against his will and right after killing them, he was consumed by the curse once again ☺️
I find this very interestong so like he himself wasnt the real bad guy it was the curse
@@ghostgamingxd7881 yes because, One time when the mask was removed, his niece saw him cry even though the face is still. like you're having the emotions but can't move on your own
@@libertmooreomambatbetita9502 yeah thats a great point
I always thought it was him just going "Wait why the hell do I have to listen to you?"
Time stamp?
Are we not talking about how this man just came after our pronunciation of the word crayon so aggressively?!
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Incorrectly came after our proper pronunciation**
Who the fuck says "creyen" talk about sounding snooty as hell.
Lol never thought I was saying it wrong
I know right
The fact that he dressed up as bob and even used the glasses proves to me that Michael definitely has a sense of humor. Add his car to the mix and Annie would definitely love that guy
He doesn't have a "sense of humour". He obviously did it as a way of fooling with her, tormenting her psychologically before he kills her, because to her, that "Bob" moron just randomly snapped out of the blue (They both deserved to die anyway, the losers). If anything, he wants to torment them and confuse them as a way of making them suffer first.
You stole this joke from cinemasins. Lame
@@bripa3890 not stolen. Just sharing something funny that someone else said first. Your lame
@@bripa3890 He's rubbish.
lmao yes! 😂
The fact the original timeline is split into 3 seperate timelines.
It's like Final Destination this series.
@@METALFREAK03 Not really the Final Destination all takes place in the same universe the original Halloween movies don't.
The only horror series timeline more complicated than Halloween is Texas Chainsaw Massacre. All the sequels to the original 1974 film are alternate follow ups to the first one that ignore each other. 4 original series continuities with the prequel to the remake and the remake itself being a separate 5th one.
Personally I really like 2003 and the prequel the most
@@nerdscore6756 lmao that’s not true, there’s split timelines in final destination
CZsWrold out here continuing the post Halloween season
Hello
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Halloween is every day if you believe
I always wondered if during Halloween 2, all the clues Michael left was a piece of his humanity hoping someone would catch on and try to stop him.
The cult thing /demon thing bothered me I liked it better that he was just this unstoppable murderer who just killed to kill. But when you make so many movies you gotta add more stuff so I get it.
It will be fun to cover the other iterations of Michael so I can talk about the key differences.
@@CZsWorld ooooooooooooooooooooooo
They got the cult idea from the Halloween novelzation plus carpenter never intended for Michael to be immortal just to be a man with some supernatural powers controlled by an evil spirit and carpenter truely intended for Myers and loomis to die in h2 but h3 doing terrible and carpenter selling the rights Akkad made him immortal h4 and on
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Thankfully they went back to that in the 2018 film.
I know this is nitpicking but I've always wondered how Judith, a 15-17 year old, couldn't overpower Michael when he was just 6 years old?
He was cursed by the curse of thorn so that made him stronger which is also why he’s unrealistically strong once he’s an adult.
If i remember correctly, Michael attached her form back
@@VergilEdits He attacked her front on. She could've kicked him in the stomach and push him to the ground and escape.
@@robtz759 Personally, I would've aimed just a little further south. That'll stop damn near *any* male in his tracks. 😆
Whether you follow the Curse of Thorn and/or MM being purely and simply Evil, he would be capable of overpowering her and others
Who tf says crayon like crarn
As someone that survived nearly being crushed to death, I can attest, it's genuinely one of the worst experiences. First, you get the nice bit of pain. Second you stop being able to physically breath as you can't inflate your lungs. And all that comes with it. Was horrible. I got lucky and the wind shifted enough rubble after the tornado that caused the entire thing, that I was able to breath once again. But words can't describe how terrible it was.
Damn that sounds horrible glad to know you survived. 👏🏾
@@wadepower1 Thank you. Yeah, I nearly died 3 or 4 times that night. I'm divided on if I was super lucky, or really misfortunate. But that's its own conversation.
@@NeiasaurusCreations No I got it. You're wondering if you were lucky to have survived or if you were incredibly unlucky to have had to go through the experience to begin with.
@@amyschildgamerlive4519 Not quite. I'm unlucky enough to have survived. Because of the permenant spinal damage, I'm in constant agony every minute of every day. With heavy pain meds like fentanyl and morphine cutting like 10-25% of my pain tops. And other things like pot doing nothing for me. I also deal with nerve damage to my entire right side. I can only do a fraction of the physical stuff I used to do before. So when I say I'm unlucky, I mean that I'm unlucky it didn't finish the job. Instead leaving me half-dead, in constant suffering for the rest of my life with no chance it'll ever get better. If anything this is the best years I'll have, before I get older and secondary conditions start setting in, and I become more and more resistant to the heavy pain meds I rely on for any type of quality of life. Eventually coming to a point where they'll do practically nothing, and my pain will over take any treatment options I have. I wish it would've just finished the job, saved me decades of suffering pointlessly.
@@NeiasaurusCreations Well that took a much darker turn than I thought. My apologies.
I thought Halloween content was done til next year!! What a blessing!!!
Just the Things You Missed
@@CZsWorld thanks so much! This is probably my favourite horror series so I love the content. They are my favourite videos of yours.
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@@CZsWorld please can you do Laurie Strode history?
@@CZsWorldcan you rob zombie halloween episode
There is a comic series that reveals what happened to Michael Myers after. Michael found out that Laurie faked her death, similar to the H20 timeline, and he went to find her again. This time, she beheads him, similar to the ending of H20. But unlike the H20 timeline where it was revealed to be a paramedic under the mask, Laurie in the original timeline truly does succeed in killing Michael. However, with Laurie being traumatized, she puts on Micheal's mask and becomes just like him. Laurie would later be caught and sent to Smith's Grove Sanitarium. All what Laurie ever does anymore while there is just stare out her window just like Michael used to do when he was there.
Really?
That's dope
Dr. Loomis needs to stop correcting you since he’s the one pronouncing words wrong. This video might be my new favorite. That’ll likely change when your next one drops. I also liked the video you did with Halloween expert Jimmy Champane. It’s always awesome when Horror UA-camrs collaborate.
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I think Cochran from Halloween III was the only character who pronounced it right.
That's the joke
I laughed every time Loomis corrected CZ😭😭
@@shinsukecorbin425 Samhain
Festivity
American pronunciation
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All aboard the Halloween Express! 🚂🎃🎃
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Choo choo
if you look on your left you can see pennywise getting beat up
Just a little theory if you don't mind: did you ever think that Michael was kinda relieved that he was freed from the curse but was actually pissed off because he doesn't really have a family to go back to or he just goes back to the psychiatric hospital where he spent all of his childhood and didn't really get the actual 'normal' experience what other people have already experienced through child to adult years. I mean i'd be pissed too if I just killed my whole family just to break the curse because then that means I won't be taught what actually it means to be human being. So what was Michael really doing all this for? other than just trying to break the curse of thorn or he just has a mind of 6 year old boy and was just easily manipulated? Idk what do you think?
Consider this Michael is severely traumatized by what he's been forced to do. Hence, why he never speaks and is so introverted. It was the demon that forced him to kill all those people but Michael is still inside fighting it. That would explain why he doesn't kill some people and times. You could argue that the picture and writing at the school were actually warnings from Michael trying to fight back. What other purpose would there be for him to do this? This even explains his slow pace.
What if in the new movie they uncurse him somehow and he realizes all that he does and he finally talks or soemthing
@@pg_krampus5489 finally someone who thinks like I think.
Some people have made the claim that he is an insensitive autistic man, incapable of any genuine feeling but somehow loves the feeling of flesh being either cut or flayed by him. Which has some sort of weird sense he was purposely stabbing someone in this latest movie over and over again.
@@Andromeda1741 yessir
@@pg_krampus5489 the new movies have nothing to do with the curse or any of the other movies after Halloween 1987
Here's a little theory: I think that after Michael killed Jamie, the curse took over that final human part of him. Turning him into pure unfiltered evil. The cult believed that after Michael killed his bloodline, he would be relieved of the curse.
(this theory has a lot of holes so bear with me.) But instead it drove him to pure evil, in effect turning him into a demon/pure evil.
Here is something that is not a theory: The Roman Empire fulfilled the Role of The beast from the sea in Revelation 13 (Revelation 17 confirms that it is Rome). With that in mind we can conclude that A) The world leaders and governments have been conspiring together for the last 2500 years to fulfill the roadmap that is in the Bible B) Jesus is the Son of God and can tell the future or make it happen. The fact that Biblical prophecy is still unfolding (such as the rebirth of Israel in 1948 or the coming digital currency) should raise some flags. Repent of your sins now and pray for God to intervene in your life. The world as we know it is headed towards destruction. If you have any questions about scripture feel free to ask me
Belief in Jesus alone does not give you eternal life, you have to obey Him and become born again John 3:3, John 3:36
I don’t think so, mainly because he never killed Jamie’s baby. That baby continues his timeline. I think it would be him under the influence of the curse, or fighting back against it going savage. He’s been cursed his whole life so Michael Myers. If he was not ‘cursed’ for even a second he probably is still a very angry man with a knife. He knows nothing else. Cool theory tho!
@@FreightmareFTW bruh stop trying to force people to believe in God
@@angelothehorrorfan5013👍
@@FreightmareFTW da fuck does this have to do with micheal meyers?
I’m sorry but who pronounces crayon like cran 💀
me😂 but i have a country accent so i say alot of things “weird”
I know, I live in Canada and even there everyone calls it crayon. He must be in mars or something 😂
I don't like the "kills because he's a cult assassin" or "kills because of an abusive upbringing" timelines that much. The thing that makes him so scary is that he kills for no reason.
YES!
There has to be a reason and I feel like they'll explain it all in Halloween Ends. It's somethin about that tower that everybody keeps starin' at from out of Michael's sister's room window( Michael, that cop in the 70s scene, Laurie's daughter). My theory is that it's givin off some kinda mind warping signals and may also have somethin' to do with the Thorne curse on Michael. His random killing has to be explained! What's the source?!
I like the conspiracy theory twists and turns. It makes it a little more interesting. Hated the Rob Zombie movies though, too realistic.
I agree. What makes these types of horror movie villains the scariest is that they don't really have a motive or reason to kill. They do it just because they can.
I love the cult lure because it explains the invincibility
CZ: "Michael just crashes through like a deer in a hair salon"
Me: wtf does that m---
*Deer crashing through a hair salon*
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Halloween 2 (1981) is actually my favorite in the franchise. For me they got everything perfect. From the atmosphere to the music to the creepy factor everything was hitting
H2 is #1!
Nothing tops the original.
@@robogreek3157 I disagree. Halloween 2 certainly tops the Original. It's certainly scarier anyway.
Dick Warlock plays Micheal Myers he also plays a killer robot in Halloween III Season Of The Witch.
Halloween 2 is my 2nd least favorite lol. But i get why someone would like it.
I love how this is like an actual documentary which nails everything about Micheal Myers. Good work!
Jamie is one of my favorite characters in the series because she brings a fresh take to the movies. She doesn’t want to kill Michael, she wants to reconcile with him because she knows his true self is still there somewhere. She seems a lot like Michael, atleast in the sense that she can relate to him kind of, idk I just like it
Hello do you believe in Jesus?
His true self Is PURE EVIL
@@robogreek3157not necessarily true. He was normal up until the curse was placed on him.
@@sagew1312In the H20 and BlumHouse timeline he isn’t.
I like the theory that there still related in the new timeline, but I think it’s better to leave them as non-sibling because it makes it more scary, because now Michael has no mortal and has no reason to go after Laurie and that’s what makes it realistic because it could actually happen to someone.
Lmao he was still trying to kill her!
No not related. John carpenter himself said he absolutely hated the idea of he and Laurie being siblings. He said it was too non sensical. They actually reiterate this later in I think Halloween kills when it's revealed thar micheal was never hunting Laurie she just kept interfering
Not really. Michael is kind of just brought to her in H18. She goes into full lockdown to try and avoid him. However it is clear once he meets Laurie again that he does in some manner want revenge for the injuries she inflicted onto him. If Michael had just been set free he'd have likely rampaged until some other force stopped him again.@@kaitlynlindsay6265
@@robogreek3157interfering with what🤨
@@robogreek3157what??
I don't know if maybe it's because I love the Halloween movies, but this seriously seems like the best video you've put out in a while. It was so informative and funny, and I was genuinely disappointed when it was over. Seriously amazing, and I can't wait to see what's next!!
Its good only problem I have is yes in the orginal timeline michael is immortal bout in the first 2 movies carpenters intent was for him to be a man with some supernatural other wise michael was just a vessel for evil at the end of Halloween 2 they where supposed to die after h3 and carpenter and hill sold the rights to Akkad Akkad made him immortal so michael can’t die on screen
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Such great coverage of the whole timeline!!
Quite a random thought but if Michael was cursed by Thorn to murder his entire family, why didn't he attack his parents when they found him standing outside of the house?
Maybe that was the start of catatonia, the realization of him being caught shocked him so much that he couldn't react.
@@ChrisTheGamer123YT could be
I think it's the mask being taken off forces him into a catatonic state because the mask is like the demon's face while he himself is seperate which is why he's shocked in part 1 when it gets taken off the actual micheal was taking over but the demon pushed him back down when he put the mask back on
Yeah I was asking myself that all the time but I guess idk I suppose he was in shock
They ripped off the mask; he needs it.
I like to think that Michael was a normal kid before Halloween 1963. I've heard different takes on it, but to me it's more mysterious that way than that he was always a psychopath.
Never once in my life have I heard anyone call a "Crayon!!!!" A cran
Soooo, I can't watch scary movies. Even Poltergeist still gives me trouble. Your videos make it possible for me to vicariously enjoy the movies and learn the backstories. There is clearly a wicked amount of research and well, work, that goes into putting your videos together. Thank you for all of it. I've only just found your channel so I've watched a couple of the Conjuring videos and this one. They're so great! --- Queen of Understatement.
@AlexanderNottingham lmao
@AlexanderNottingham not everyone can watch scary movies what’s funny
@@reckzxxhe got termed 😂
@@SDAWG-69 😂
Sounds like your saying crayon like “cran”
“Suddenly, having blonde hair for some reason.” This made me laugh harder than it should have. What a bizarre continuity error. Thank you for the laugh!
I still think everything he was taught starts at Smithsgrove from driving to being very aware of his surroundings, because he actually did know who Laurie was because the hospital had the family files hidden away, and when he got old enough they let Mike go so he can terrorize his town, but the thorn possession sounds very credible also to his not being able to die because of it
I believe Michael killed Nurse Alves before he killed Bud and Karen, because we see some blood dripping on a black floor during Laurie's dream sequence (that looks identical to the floor of the room that Alves was killed in) right before Michael kills them
Good call!
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The thorn is actually lifted from runic writing, which was pointy rather than rounded. Runes were made of straight lines and not curves because they were chiseled into stone and carved into wood, which makes curves more complicated and difficult. The thorn was carried over by Latin and French speaking scribes to denote a sound that doesn’t exist in either source language (th). This is also why there weren’t many written records-they mostly used stone and wood rather than paper-and why English doesn’t seem so phonetic. The sounds are represented by a foreign script, not the native runic one.
Small note from a word nerd!! Love your videos.
Yep. In the Norse culture, it was the rune used to represent Thor.
This. Thank you. You wxplained it bwtter than I would.
I honestly wished they used Ogham. Even if it's Pictish and not Irish. Would've made more sense. Could still be handwaved as cross pollination between Germanic and Celt cultures in antiquity as we know so little about both groups other than biased Greco-Roman propaganda.
Mrs. Ellerod got to live because she was making a sandwich
Biggest flex, my dad’s name is Micheal Myers 😏😂
I think the cult offered Michael's soul and body to Thorn. Thorn first took the soul, the possessed the body. I think Michael is legitimately dead, and the reason the curse doesn't disconnect when it's not Halloween is that part of Thorn stays in the body until he's done, then the body drops dead.
Odds are likely the body stays in a catatonic state because Thorn only gives it one purpose. It can't speak, feel emotion, or think. Thorn isn't human, it can't understand humanity. The only reason it wants the sacrifices is likely that Halloween, the day when the barriers are loose is the only time he can get a hold of them, is because he is a spirit of harvest, and harvest means killing. Whether it's plants, people, or animals. He likely also probably gains power to influence the world without a host. Which the way he uses autonomy is beneficial to life. Perhaps as an ethereal thing Thorn simply wants to exist, given it has no life of its own this is the only way it can remain. It has to kill to have power, it has to have power to effect change. This Thorn is more idea than being.
Otherwise couple notes, perhaps Thorn is trying to understand the human body. Hence why acts of affection confuse him. Next is the truck at the end of Halloween 3 had a clutch pedal and auto shift lever.
Bro, your videos have literally been getting me through my week. Thank you for doing such a great job. The care you put into each of these videos is absolutely commendable.
Hilariously the rune they call Thorn is an actual Norse rune, also called Thorr/Thorrn, which in old English is of course Thorn, and that rune *does* act as a symbol for a being...but that being is Thorr/Thor - a *protector* of men, who had an epithet that translates to 'friend of Midgard'
they probably just picked a random symbol but the situation is funny to me
And Wynn was also a rune, the rune of Odin.
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I'm just imagining Michael picking Thor's hammer Mjolnir and killing people with it.
@@Xehanort10 Honestly, I'd watch that
"friend of Midgard" is also, or rumoured, friend of the land. Man is not a friend of the land, we are a virus of the land. We use the land to make ourselves better, it CAN be said that the thorn protects the land from man.
This is your masterpiece, man.
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But…it’s spelled Crayon, not Crain 🙁
I was confused at the middle name Audrey because I remember his middle initial being M in Halloween 4 on his patient form. I looked it up to be sure I was remembering correctly. Seems that a crew member mistakenly put M as the initial
The M stands for misinformation
🤔 i was told it was for Milhouse
Michael Michael Myers
@@jacrispy8008 oh great who let Micheal Micheal out of the sanitarium
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You just earned yourself a subscriber. You, James A Jenisse from Dead Meat and and 616 Entertainment have a very unique way of analyzing our favorite horror movies. Much appreciated
been addicted to this film series ever since i started liking michael instead of being terrified of him!
very cool take on the films and the insights we get during the movies. Ive always done this in my head and with friends but have never seen such a well put together video on michael! thank you for making this video! subbed
you can also make the observation of how when it was mentioned Michael stole some rope from the hardware store, it was used to hang bob’s swinging dead body later BUT however in Halloween Kills when Michael attacked the police officer in the 1978 flashback - he was choking him with a rope. cool thing i noticed.
hi
Really really good planning
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The original Halloween is basically the Ocarina of Time of the 80s horror genre at this point with all the timeline splits
Yes, but Ocarina of Time has an in-game reason that the timeline splits whereas Halloween is a series of what-if scenarios.
@@CZsWorld it'd be pretty neat if there was an in-canon reason, I'd watch that movie lol
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I feel like in the first movie he doesn't get them immediately because in the killing of his older sister he watches them from the shadows first (particularly when they are doing something intimate) then kills them. Which makes sense in character because he is trying to mimic it.
If there is a three year age gap between Michael and Laurie, there's a chance Michael remembered he had another sister or at least another sibling even if Laurie couldn't since he was six years old when he killed Judith. Long term memories start developing in the brain after the age of five years old, That's why its rare for humans to remember before they were five no matter how old they are.
I think the reason why he didn't kill his sister straight away is because he still has a small side of him that's still human. That's why he wants to go back to his childhood home and just watches his sister instead of killing her, like he has a internal conflict between Michael as a child and the rage from the curse. If he wasn't human at all he wouldn't want to go back to his home because he wouldn't have any memories or attachment to it
I don’t get why people don’t like the original timeline with The Cult of Thorn. It makes total sense of why Michael Myers kills, he doesn’t do it for no reason, he does it because he’s been possessed! I’m sorry but I like it when things are explained and showing the true story of why people turn into murderers.
@@singer4life-nx9um Thank you
They should have transported Michael in a car with a manual stick shift instead of an automatic transmission. Michael would have bunny hopped and stalled, and then have to walk to Hadonfield.
I wonder who showed him to drive in the first place.
Because he steals stick shifts too because they'd have more common then automatic at the time.
my question is how did he learn to drive in the first place? lmao imagine michael in a drivers ed class😭
Halloween Kills definitely reinforces the idea that he needs his mask, it's part of him.
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Bless your heart, but these Danny McBride written H movies are smart ass, meta garbage that need to be disregarded; or just treated as fan fiction, cash grabs.
You can't rewrite a saga 40 years after it debuts.
As long as the mask stays on he can’t be killed which is he didn’t die when Karen stabbed him in the neck
@@danjonmills exactly! The very first one is just amazing
thats a reboot rhough and not the true original michael
I had actually liked the idea of the curse of Thorn, but what started off as interesting became too much of the focus towards then and really just seemed to dilute the character of Myres. The Jamie character was a pretty good route with her connecting to Michael wish they did more with that connection, and played more with how the bloodline can inherit the curse
I feel it would have been more interesting to have him be freed from/break the curse but still go on killing. Showing that despite being freed from it he was no longer human.
CZ: "The Myers family is descended from an ancient Druid tribe..."
Me: Funny-- they don't *look* Druish. 😆
😏
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Nice!! 😅😅😅😅
I understood that reference
The original untainted story is the best in my opinion..
They laughed and mocked loomis ,but Loomis knew what was up lol
IN MICHAEL'S DEFENSE....
When Lori shoots him somewhere though the eye holes of his mask, his motions are actually pretty accurate. Now to a person who's never been in a fight, it may look silly.. But when your eyes have blood running in them, you cannot see.. And after taking a big blow to the head, a loud ringing noise fills your ears and that's all you can hear. Now im only referring to a good puch from another man, compared to Michael being shot twice in the head lol, i think he recovered pretty quick. You can verify everything i just said by asking any person who's ever competed in combat sports. They'll know exactly what im talking about.
Never participated in a fight but I know what you’re talking about.
Michael killing those kids in the comics could be the Thorn Demon ("The Shape?") acting up and wanting human sacrifices as it's buying time (maybe waiting until Laurie was closer to Judith's age), or it could just be that Michael is a demented psychopath himself, and the Demonic curse was just a match made in heaven, and they both fed off of each other. Maybe the Thorn Demon is in all three timelines, but it just likes to let Michael do his thing, from time-to-time while aiding him with some invulnerability on occasion.
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I think the latter could be accurate. Like his murders he committed while possessed left him numb to the idea of taking a human life so he would do it when pissed off on top of the possessed kills.
He has to be a demon in all 3 as he is supernatural in every single film.
@@mcl7353 yes he is
I have to applaud everyone involved with making this video. You all did a great job analyzing this confusing franchise.
Dude, you do an amazing job not only the Halloween series, but all of the others I have watched. Just wanted to thank you for your dedication and hard work. 👊🏼
The Thorn character is a rune that looks exactly like the character used in the movies. Straight lines and sharp corners were easier to carve into wood or stones than curvy lines, or at least more consistent.
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I remember you mentioning in another video talking his 40 year timeline, that he was an outcast and how that’s part of what started the curse of him! I’m still convinced that that’s still part of the reason he is so hateful and psychotic in the whole series.
This is my favorite movie series of ALL TIME. Never thought I’d find anything about this series that I liked from a commentary standpoint but I found this. Great video!!!!
There are more, and more to come!
we need to start a petition to get a TV show started that covers the curse of Thorn WITHOUT Michael Myers so that all the people who hated the Thorn stuff can move on and leave us alone while we watch a series of episodes with a no name serial killer and some crazy druids INCLUDING the soul sucking Halloween mask plot.
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Well they're thinking about turning the Halloween franchise back into an anthology series like they tried to do with Season of the Witch. So I hope they do a sequel/reboot of SotW and maybe make a cult inspired movie
Man these guys should have their own series on a streaming service… I would pay 💰 for the subscription.. the amount of research and efforts and marketing is just mind blowing
I'd like to see you do a timeline for Jason eventually. I'm always curious about him too.
Same!
One thing I've always hoped for was that they reveal Jamie Lloyd's father, you know, a backstory of sorts. For years I've been speculating that it's Jimmy, the EMT in Halloween 2 that appears to have a crush on Laurie. Not to mention the father of Jamie's baby. Over the past few years I've heard some real nasty, morbid theories about that. But I don't wanna post what I heard on UA-cam. Thanks so much CZsWorld for this incredibly detailed timeline about Michael Myers. I commend you as well for going almost an hour on this. Kudos to you for soldiering through it. Bravo! 👏
It always disappointed me how this series wasted Jamie. She could’ve had a great arc where she grows up to ultimately face her evil uncle whose actions ruined her life before she was even born. It’s just to bad they dropped the ball so badly in H5 and H6.
Focus on God instead of the things in this world. Check it out: The Roman Empire fulfilled the Role of The beast from the sea in Revelation 13 (Revelation 17 confirms that it is Rome). With that in mind we can conclude that A) The world leaders and governments have been conspiring together for the last 2500 years to fulfill the roadmap that is in the Bible B) Jesus is the Son of God and can tell the future or make it happen. The fact that Biblical prophecy is still unfolding (such as the rebirth of Israel in 1948 or the coming digital currency) should raise some flags. Repent of your sins now and pray for God to intervene in your life. The world as we know it is headed towards destruction. If you have any questions about scripture feel free to ask me
Belief in Jesus alone does not give you eternal life, you have to obey Him and become born again John 3:3, John 3:36
Michael's middle name was Aubrey, not Audrey. I could be wrong, but I've always heard it as Aubrey. I mean, what mother would name her son Audrey. I haven't personally met a guy named the latter......Otherwise, nice job.
I like backstories on most criminals & scary psychopaths.
Could u plse do a backstory on the demon, in Jeepers Creepers. That would be awesome.🎃🧡🎃
Thank u.
While the paranormal aspect is interesting, I always enjoyed the more psychological take on Michael. That's why I love the first movie. It's creepier with the realistic take and it also makes Michael more interesting as a character because we won't be blaming some demon.
That's my own personal opinion but regardless, Michael is still my favorite slasher.
I always liked Myers because he had no supernatural powers that were to overpowered he was just intelligent
he was supernatural in the first one too though
I totally agree with you, knowing that there was just something...off about him was ambiguous and unsettling and I like that it was never really explained. I saw this shit in the early 80s when I was 8 or so, my dad let me watch it with him when my mom was visiting a relative and it scared the bejesus out of me! I still remember that my dad asked me to go out and lock our backyard gate, but it was DARK out there, and I had just seen the scariest movie known to man! I stood at the door, looking out into the darkness and I just could not do it! And so my obsession with scary movies was born! At the perfect moment in time as well, as the 80s will always be the ultimate horror decade!
@@robertpreston2220 Agreed.
100% agree!! One of the scariest things about Michael Myers is that he’s more realistic than even Jason and Freddie. Like, a kid could really go crazy and stab his sister to death. Then escape from an asylum years later and go back to his hometown and start massacring people. That could actually happen. Which makes it super scary imo.
Can’t wait for the Chuck E. Cheese video 😎
It's a banger
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This reminds me of hereditary where the evil is passed down cause the demon wanted a male host. In this case its based passed down a lot longer but still contained to this one family lol. Or like in paranormal activity its similar story lol. Maybe they're all connected lol.
This was such a great wrap up of the original series, loving this material! Thank you and the team for all the time and energy ya'll put into each video!
You are right I'm agreeing with you all the way from Baton Rouge Louisiana 2021 please be safe and careful 🔥🔥🔥😔
CZ always does an amazing job with his videos!
I don't know if it's just me, but the clips of Loomis coming in with the incorrect Samhain pronunciation is hilarious each time.
Thank You for putting all of this together🎃 Halloween 6 is something of a dark horse in this series, but one of my favorites. So, it’s a cool watch seeing someone connect it to explain Myers’ bizarre power
The Thorn symbol used looks very much like a Nordic rune, which actually makes sense when you see the similarities between Celtic and Nordic mythologies
Just found your videos and I can't stop watching! Very indepth information along with funny writing but goddamn the editing!! Chef's kiss!! You're killing it! Don't ever stop 💜🙌🙏
Focus on God and not the things of this world that will perish. Check it out: The Roman Empire fulfilled the Role of The beast from the sea in Revelation 13 (Revelation 17 confirms that it is Rome). With that in mind we can conclude that A) The world leaders and governments have been conspiring together for the last 2500 years to fulfill the roadmap that is in the Bible B) Jesus is the Son of God and can tell the future or make it happen. The fact that Biblical prophecy is still unfolding (such as the rebirth of Israel in 1948 or the coming digital currency) should raise some flags. Repent of your sins now and pray for God to intervene in your life. The world as we know it is headed towards destruction. If you have any questions about scripture feel free to ask me
Belief in Jesus alone does not give you eternal life, you have to obey Him and become born again John 3:3, John 3:36
I do think the mask plays an important part bc the mask give his a sense of power. The mask hides his face giving him the confidence that he needs, without it he may become less successful due to his insecurities and vulnerabilities from being picked on as a child and burnt face. I think he becomes stronger with each person he kills which builds up his immortality which requires him to need less down time when he get injured. So..eventually Michael realizes the strength gained by each kill and MAYBE the amount of strength he receives is determined by the age his victim and that's why be didn't kill the old folks. His victims do tend to be on the younger side, I'd say child to age 35 and seems to only kill older people when be finds it necessary to remove them from the equation to simplify his ultimate goal.
I pronounce crayon as “cray-yawn”. The only other way I’ve heard it pronounced is “crown”.
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Yeah it's crayon not cran
Nice! This is BRILLIANTLY done! I love the jokes about pronunciation. Halfway through and I'm intrigued, informed and well amused!
Hello
@@kevinmilies8139 Hey there.
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@@johnnyblack4 How’re you doing?
@Kevin Milies I'm doing alright. How you doing?
He didn't try to kill his parents when they came home n found him in the front yard. Plot hole?
Me and my husband would talk hours about this stuff. I know he would have loved this channel. I miss him so much. Thank you for doing this. From a person who is grieving: this has helped me so much.
Im so sorry for your loss may god bless you with the strength and may god be with you💯
@@johnedward6123 thank you for your kind words
My condolences. I'm sure he was a great man. I'm sorry for your loss
I'm sorry I hope you're feeling OK today
I always felt sort of bad that 6 year old Michael had to deal with 60s-70s mental health treatments. Like, even without a curse, 15 years of that and I'd probably be pretty messed up too.
The fact that their are 4 universes in these series is pretty impressive halloween already had a multiverse before it was cool..haha
I just wanted to take a moment to say that i feel BLESSED w the content that you make. Im grateful for your hard work and dedication. And it would be a drean come true if we work together one day.
Thank you Mikah 💀🖤
Wait, it's not pronounced CRAY-ON?
It a major point of debate.
And I'm over here wondering why you WOULDN'T pronounce it CRAY-ON! 😅 Haha
Cry on
@@CZsWorld it's... really not.
Can we Have jason voorhees
Yes
My theory about Michael killing the cult members is that maybe it's possible that the cult lied and still wanted to control Michael and use him as a pet
The reason Michael killed those people at smith’s grove is his anger was being pushed over the edge by thorn
The theatrical version is not the true film meant to be released. The producers cut is the true one which makes sense since he was part of the cult in that one
Y'all ever notice how calm his parents are finding their son with a butcher knife covered in blood? I'm a mother. I'd have been screaming on the street about wtf happened and why my child is holding a bloody butcher knife and hauling arse into the house to find out what else is wrong!!! lol The parents just stand there, "duhhhh".....
Hopefully a good game designer makes a Halloween Michael Myers game
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That would be awesome 👏
The comics can just be its own timeline too in a way but yeah I consider every timeine canon its just different. They all share one thing he just doesn't die and is this supernatural being either way with zombies being an exception.
Yeah in Halloween you might as well give them their own section on the train map.
@@CZsWorld haha true 👍 🤣 Halloween can also be looked at as the DC and Marvel of horror franchises with the multiple timelines 😅 Chucky is one of thebfew with one main continuity. Have you done or thought about a chucky updated one with the series and all?
Chucky is like that because all the films and tv show are written by don manchini
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@@jimbowlan5804 There were films not directed by Don within his universe but overseen by him. Also one reason Halloween has multiple timelines is partially carpenter's fault as he left the series early on so naturally others jumped on it being an iconic horror character. There is the child's play reboot that has nothing to do with Mancini's universe due to MGM having the rights to the name Child's Play. Its the same thing with Zombie's Halloween based off the same characters but different interpretation entirely.
Kinda ironic how in the comics they have free mason checker floors
Who knew that a killer can have so much history of why he became a killer lmaooo new favorite video?!
：john 3:15-18 KJV❤ 15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
My personal fictional storyline has Michael Myers in it and he became a Christian, being removed of his evil spirit
The bit where he cries reminds me of get out like the real Michael is in there but he's in the sunken place just watching everything. Kinda like demonic possession in supernatural. Maybe Jaime could get to him cause if their connection. She can see what he sees and can get into his head to let out real Michael for a second like in get out a flash lets out real person for a second but then the dominant personality takes over again. Also kinda reminds me of look away where a girl decides to switch placed with her doppelganger in the mirror. So switching with her she's stuck in the mirror watching everything happens while her mirror shelf runs amok lol. Reminds me if Dr Loomis in Halloween two talking about our fear of the darkness inside ourselves in our subconscious. Is that where all this came from he thought from his subconscious or his id lol
By the way fun fact. The teen boy carrying the Boom Box was the actual son of the actor portraying Michael Myers. FACT