I watched this whole series, and it did one thing right. The scene were ashoka cuts vaders mask, and you can see Anakin, and you hear Anakin and Darth Vader at the same time. That was good shit.
Federica Fortunato although ahsoka leaving the jedi kind of moves some distrust from anakin to the council which kind of powers his motives against them
That two-parter geonosis episode, first with the geonosian zombies and then with the worms going in all the clone troopers’ noses while Ahsoka has to survive was some of the scariest shit my 8 year old self had ever seen. Deleted that off my DVR right as the episode finished because I knew there was no way in hell I was watching that again.
William Robb I’m sorry but you’re wrong Rex WAS at the battle of endor and it is confirmed by Sabine Wren when she told in the last scene that so Hera and Rex fought there. Check out the last scene if you havent
I appreciate the video so i can save myself hours of my life and not watch this garbage. I made it through season 1 and just decided to maybe catch up later. NOPE!
I don't. That was awesome. I agree 100%. Well 99%.. That magic time travel was BS. Did not think that was good at all. Okay cool voices from the previous movies. 1 brownie point from the fans. But that's about it. Okay so. Palpatine can enter that realm cause he's a space wizard? Granted he is. But he ain't Lord Voldemort. That's Not how the Force works! Lastly the ONLY good thing that came out of this series was that Old Ben Kenobi Vs. Darth Maul fight. That was excellent and excecuted with class. No flashy bs. We got a believable Alec Guinness style obi wan with his dissective speech fused with Ewan McGregor/Kenobi's defensive tactics style. Overall that might be the only thing that is a.saving grace for the show. Ahsoka was great to see but not enough to save the show.
This is really depressing with Rukh. Rukh was the grey alien, but in the novels and comics, he was basically Thrawn's bodyguard, but had ideals of his own, and followed his own code. Thrawn trusted him, but you could tell a lot of what Rukh did was on his own. He would often harass and sneak up on officers to test their awareness, and was THE guy to finally kill Thrawn once he found out the Empire was lying to the Noghiri. To see such an interesting side character that worked well with Thrawn reduced to "That Grey Ninja Guy". Is really depressing.
Right though? I wish they hadn't touched the EU characters at all. Just leave the separate canon alone instead of bringing things back just to ruin it and appeal with shallow fan service.
zachanikwano I’m starting to agree with this statement more. Many people were complaining when they found out Boba Fett wouldn’t be in Season 4 of Rebels. But truthfully, I’m glad they didn’t bring him back. As sad as it is, this show could’ve easily reduced Boba to a generic bad guy.
ASlimySlugIsInvadingYourBase Id rather they not do that reboot the old republic era. Let that stay on the games and comic and books. They already made Thrawn a talk shit do no shit type person.
I liked Rebels, it's a stupid show but if I turn my brain off I can enjoy it. However I will never forgive that they crammed Ezra into the Vader vs Ahsoka and Obi-Wan vs Maul conflicts. He had no right being there. Hell, half of the Ahsoka vs Vader fight is OFF SCREEN so we can focus on Ezra. Makes me so mad, especially because Anakin/Vader and Ahsoka are my top 2 favourite characters in the franchise so I was really looking forward to the reunion.
I’ll honestly say, at the very least, the scene with darth Vader and ahsoka in the temple where you hear anakins voices buried under the the filter made me super emotional
Ahsoka and Darth Vader: *Have the clear highlight of the show, with one of the most intense and emotionally investing parts of both the Clone Wars and Rebels series* Ezra: wOaH i NeEd MoAr TrAiNiNg!!!!11!1!
Maria Meanwhile in the original 6 hands, arms and head were chopped like there is no tomorrow. Make it lame doesn’t equal child friendly. And George said that Star Wars is for 12 year olds.
Nick Spencer this is true but you don’t see that stuff and the hitting wasn’t that type it’s literally Tom and Jerry level bonking on the head with a base ball bat.
The Last Airbender has tonal shifts ... You have Airbender genocide next to Sokka getting fish hooks stuck in fingers. Yet it works. What makes that work versus here. Not disagreeing by the way. I also feel Rebels is off balanced. But what’s the difference.
Antoine Bandele i would say that the tonal shifts are not dissonant. when the episode is serious, it is serious, vice versa. even when they mix the themes in each episode. the characters are always still aware of the consequences of their decisions and what mood a scene has. legend of korra does this poorly compared to atla actually.
I think what made the tonal shifts work in ATLA was that they were logical and driven by the differing well-established personalities of the characters involved, whereas in Rebels its much more random and more obviously driven by the whims of the creative team
The most frustrating part of season 4 was seeing how Sabines family seemingly died because of her creation and that was a pretty emotional scene and i was like dang i finally get to see sabine become a character? But no only to find that the weapon she made that vaporized everyone else didnt kill her mom and brother because “wE cAnT hAvE faMilY DiE tHatS nOt hOw fAmiLy woRkS iN reAL LiFe”
I mean don't you think it's because they were the ones who actually got warned by Sabine? That was made pretty clear in the show as the only reason they were able to escape the blast mostly unharmed.
The whole premise of this Mary Sue being even bigger Mary Sue than she already was through the series and making her also a supergenius who invented a superweapon when she was like 12 was a superdumb idea in the first place. She also trained like one or two days with the darksaber and was able to keep up with a Jedi. Meanwhile in canon part of the galaxy: Din cut himself and struggled with the "weight" of it, and Paz who is huge and strong could barely use the darksaber because of its "weight". Sabine should not even be able to hold it still if it´sTHAT hard to wield it without proper training.
@@Mouse_Metal We see her train with kanan one or two times, that doesnt mean it wasn't something they likely did more. Also you discount how much of a difference that makes. a jedi will always make a better teacher than the armorer when it comes to LIGHTSABER combat. Even if it may have been executed poorly in the show, the canon explanation for sabine being able to learn to wield it is a valid one. Also, it has to do with the 'weight' of emotions and internal conflict in the user. There was a canon explanation that mando's attachment to grogu and his inner conflict is what made him have trouble with it. And even then, we see him get better with it pretty quickly in the book of boba. Right after he gets grogu back
I prefer Legends. Cody stays with the Empire and is apalled by the horrendous failures of Imperial recruits. Hell Cody in one mission, sacrificed 100 Stormtroopers, just so he could save one of his remaining Clone brethren. When scolded by his superiors, he simply stated the fact that the Empire was simply better off with Clones in their army and went back resuming his role as commander of Imperial forces.
AHHHH NOOOOO!!! You're so right... Dang. At least we still have 6 and now 7 seasons of clone wars though, with a lot of enjoyable episodes and storylines throughout.
Dude are you talking about the fight with Darth Sidious when he specifically said. I’m not going to kill you, I have other uses for you. Then you know he shocks Maul and he screams bloody murder with a truly dark end to an episode… Then it’s followed by the cheerful credits music lol. I didn’t mind it ending like that because the episodes we got leading up to that were some of the best episodes of Clone Wars. Plus that fight is just killer, my goodness here... ua-cam.com/video/-7hBZNsPnyg/v-deo.html Watch it again it’s freakin awesome:D
I swear that finale was one of the most idiotic finales I have ever seen in a tv show. Anything would be better than fcking tentacle space whales kidnapping my man Thrawn and pulling him into hyperspace. Who wrote that shit?
Show Writers: "I've got a great idea for the villain of this kids show. It'll be a psychotic murdering murderer, that's renowned for being ruthless and unstoppable." Producer: "That doesn't sound very good, this is a kids show." Show Writer: "Oh don't worry, he doesn't really hurt anyone, and the main characters beat him like he's a scooby-villain every other episode."
I actually did something like that for a fanfiction I wrote based on one of my favorite movies as a kid. I had a villain that could not be outsmarted and was also an amazing fighter. I even killed a main character from the original kids movie halfway through to raise the stakes and show that this guy cannot be underestimated. He has brilliant plans that truck the heroes into doing what he wants without them knowing
*coughs in original trilogy as I watch the main character beat Vader* I wonder where they got the idea. Maybe it's because that's how Star Wars works? A rag tag group of misfits against impossible odds?
I don't really understand the whole kiddie stuff I watched it all recently at the age of 15 and I binged it better than CW I did not really have a problem with anything in the show
I think it’s definitely a downgrade because as Cosmo said it has a lot more colorful shading while rebels is just kinda bland colors but I also noticed that there were always just dots on characters faces and it really annoyed me
I dislike the animation but I believe that nearing that from midway of s3 they tried to mess with the frame rate to make the action scenes look better which was an improvement. And the focus thing which they did when Ezra was fighting the red dudes was pre g. but overall BAD
9:09 Has anyone talked about how pathetic this part looks, you expect darth’s lightsaber to be intimidating but the way they angle it makes it look like he has a light knife, not a Sabre.
Idk why they made all the lightsabers so small and skinny. The movie sabers are like bodybuilders but then this show's sabers are like the Holocaust survivors
In every appearance he has with his lightsaber, it’s projected out of his silhouette separating the lightsaber from his body. That’s why when people see a lightsaber beaming out they know shit is going down. What you said before, the angle makes it look like a small butter knife from a family guy skit.
Mad Titan Thanos the people knew what they were doing when they made them skinny I saw a video talking about why the lightsabers are skinny and how it makes more scientific sense in the star wars universe
-Daniel Cibic "Its still Disney they'll fund a way to fuck it up you'll see" as he said the reason the clone wars was good was because they were being faced with cancellation towards the later seasons but rebels has/had a Disney sized budget and is made by the same people. but the clone wars reboot will have the same people and budget sooooooooooo.
Nicolas Mattson while Disney have lots of money for sure, considering how disappointing the results from the Star Wars franchise have been lately, maybe, just maybe... Disney will be more cautious this time around and won't just give them unlimited budget?
You know what would've been cool? If Rebels was also an anthology series. Think about it: Stories of ground soldiers fighting a losing battle against the empire. Pilots fighting tiny skirmishes against bigger odds. Watching stories of the empire absolutely crushing rebels left and right, some more morally ambiguous moments. Maybe a few reoccurring characters, but more like the clones characters. Even putting stories of Jedi's running away and hiding only to get hunted and killed. What do you guys think?
Totally agree. The Clone Wars showed us the grand scale a galactic conflict in the Star Wars universe must have, from its core worlds to the remote outer rim. You could be seeing the 501st fighting droids on planetary battles, some times the episodes were set in Coruscant and the political turnmoils of the Senate, and others were about criminals who took no side in the war whatsoever. It taught us how complex and multilayered this universe was. Rebels, on the other hand, just feels small...
It would be cool if Vader was a regular threat to the Jedi characters, the Jedi can't rely on their powers too much to get stuff done because otherwise Vader will figure out where they are. It bothers me in Rebels that the Jedi characters are way too quick to bust out a lightsaber. Honestly I say if this show was done over again, make Kanan the only Jedi character but he's the last resort character. He only comes in and uses his powers when he is absolutely needed. Because honestly, Kanan and Ezra's existence should've led to the Empire carpet bombing Lothal immediately.
Oh yea big time. They carried hard.After watching the carry that took place in Rebels, I feel like I have a chance at contributing to a 3v3 Rocket League game.
Eh nah no season 6 for clone wars. I think the 12 episodes they’re gonna release to conclude the series should be the end. I just hope the end is as good as the show was
@@optillian4182 they're bringing it back for a season 7 and everyone was blow up that trailer video for season 7 weeks f clone wars, pretty sure everyone wants more
The thin lightsabers aren’t the problem. It’s that they’re disproportionately sized. If you want thin blades you need thinner, more narrow hilts. Which means you have to change the sizes of the characters. Vader’s blade didn’t bother me because Vader was thinner in the show than the movies. The blade felt like it matched the thickness of the character. They can’t make Ezra and Kansan an average, normal human size and give them normal sized savers, but make the blades look like toothpicks
She stayed in hiding until the war was over, then headed to the unknown regions with Sabine to find Ezra. It's completely possible they just haven't come back yet, if ever
SeannyBravo I guess it could be a simple matter that no one knew she was alive so she had no means off of Malachor. Since there was no body I imagine Vader would destroy all the Inquisitors' TIEs to make absolutely sure that she was no longer a threat (I know it's weird that he'd leave if he even suspected she was alive but I imagine since she was in the world between worlds he couldn't sense her at all so he'd assume she was dead) so she had no ship to leave on. Ezra disappears like the next day so it's possible he didn't mention her to anyone (it'd be stupid if he didn't but let's be real a lot of things he does are stupid) so no one would come get her. As to how she got back after ROTJ, it's anyone's guess, her story is far from over, I'm personally hoping she finds a way to contact Rex to let him know where she is, because she's the last friend he has from the old days and it'd be nice to see him happy for once
@@ncberg05 I mean, I feel like the death of 99 was forced. If he stayed in cover and listened he would have been fine but he died for nothing. I wish his death had more meaning but it didn't for me so I wasn't really moved by it. Satine though... That shit was so sad, definitely when you look in Obi-wan's eyes and see how he starts tearing up
"Hellicopter lightsaber wow, this lightsaber spins arooouund and this lightsaber is a gun, BONK BONK BONK, Another stormtrooper costume, IS IT STAR WARS? IS IT STAR WARS YET?"
If Star Wars actually listened to what fandoms wanted, we’d have gotten a whole season filled with only original- and prequel-era shit no one wants to see anymore.
Dr. Breen's Private Reserve I would, but I can't remember who that is. They put something in the water to make me forget. I don't even remember how I got here.
The animation in rebels really bothers me. Everyone looks like their made of a soft plush clay or cotton, like maul who had these firm jagged edges to his face and whole body was replace by this oval face with NO marks or depth on him at all..really its a disappointment.
The dialogue animation also sucks. They move their heads SO MUCH while talking. If I moved my head like that on a conversation, I'd look like a fucking weirdo.
Red I know that it was supposed to it tried and failed, if you look at clone wars it looks way more artistic on how each character model was made, if you really focus on any character in cw you'd see that they have this brush strock affect all over their body, like if you look at maul you can see the brush strokes that makes out his tattoos and skin and cloths. In rebels there is no style that's consistant, the character models look like the original concept art could've been taken from anywhere. Also none of the character models have any texture (skin, hair, eyes cloths etc) other then looking like you could squish their face in.
If being a dumb idiot is his best moment, then yeah, i don’t know how anyone can respect his opinions. He just follows public opinion about the media he’s reviewing, for the views. Can’t you see that? Everything he ever reviews is dogshit to him. Except the old stuff! This fucking idiot
While I don't hate this show as much as you do( that energy is reserved for the last two Spider-man cartoons we got) I feel your pain. I was excited when this show was announced but I kept dropping it and trying to pick it up every time something like Maul or Ashoka happened, I just wanted more Clone Wars not...this
Jslicer13 Yeah the new one and ultimate are a down grade of spectacular. However I would out ultimate above the new current one because at times they do try to make scenes matter.
I didn't really expect anything specifically, I say I dropped it because it just felt off whenever I tried to watch, to the point that I really just didn't want to watch past five minutes of any given episode. With Clone Wars or even other shows I just like what that show does on a whole but I don't want rebels to be the same as Clone Wars, Clone Wars had a certain feeling to it and Rebels doesn't have that
I feel exactly the same way. While Rebels isn't very good, I still think it's fun. But Marvel's Spider-Man is only good for laughing at, and Ultimate Spidey isn't watchable at all.
It based on original concept for lightsaber.So they kind of want to appreciate people work. Just like Clone Wars their Venator is a little bit different from movie.This is not a issue.
Finished the rebels just now and felt something was off, this video perfectly summed it up. I wouldn't say it's shit, but it's definitely nothing special. Its kind of like those filler episodes you get in anime where you put it on in the background and just wait for it to be over, but in this case, it spanned 75 episodes.
Man those Rebels in all actuality would have been defeated by Thrawn I mean he literally almost defeated the New Republic in his Heir to the Empire book series. Like he almost captured Luke and would have if Luke didn’t pull a move that was extremely unexpected and almost destroyed him and his ship.
Impliying that the original Star Wars doesn't have plot armor. The entire original trilogy dissapears if stormtroopers actually know how to aim and if the Empire destroyed the Escape Pod right at the start of A New Hope but it's convenient for Hero's Journey, "There are droids on board" . This is the biggest sin of Star Wars, Plot Armor is everywhere, even Palpatine in the prequels just has a lot of plot armor to protect him from the Jedi Order.
@@saricubra2867 ok buddy stormtroopers can aim and for one when Luke was escaping Vader Wanted them to escape so he told the stormtroopers to miss intentionally so yea they can aim like look at so right after roughe one they butchered those rebels
well, it doesnt have to be for you, its not like Ezra is gonna show up and start dry humping rey just cuz he "technically exists in the same universe" i mean its interesting to see how they will use darth maul in the kenobi series now that the maul and kenobi arc was ended in some garbage episode in a kiddie show, cuz he has been teased in the end of Solo and their is no way they can not have him as a main antagonist in some form during the kenobi move
And people say Rey's a mary-sue. I say that's bullshit. The sequel trilogy gave character and flaws both to protagonist and antagonist. While Star Wars Rebels makes it too one-dimensional.
Mitchell Benford it’s really sad that the sequels which really aren’t that bad get all this hate and “criticism” (rise of skywalker was pretty bad but force awakens was great and 8 was also pretty solid) but then rebels is praised when it’s worse in nearly every way
Mitchell Benford I think that’s fair tbh I honestly didn’t even hate rise of skywalker I just thought that final battle with Rey and palpatine was awful
“The best way to fix this show is to just make it solely for children. Don’t try to trick nostalgic man children like myself into watching the show”. I 100% agree with this. I almost got tricked into watching this show because people took the 5 best nostalgic scenes like Obi-Wan vs. Darth Maul and Ashoka vs. Vader and blew it out of proportion because they left out all of the crappy parts. I knew basically nothing about the show until watching your videos about it and I’m so glad you made these because now I don’t have to waste my time. I remember watching Ashoka vs. Vader and thinking that was epic but then seeing this random kid and I was like who tf is that but now I know lol. Someone even made a video claiming that the final duel between Obi-Wan vs. Darth Maul in this show was the best lightsaber fight of all time. I definitely got baited but it is still pretty epic. Like you said, that whole episode should’ve just been those two characters. I feel like whoever made that video was trying to hype up the show by saying that was best lightsaber fight of all time but who knows. Maybe he just liked that one scene and that was it. Anyways this show is definitely one big bait.
@@picksleet9268 Sir, I assure you that I have been here from the beginning. Star Wars has always been aimed at kids my dude. It cracks me up when folks like you get so fired up about pretend. 😂🤡
I just want to say. I remember almost no scenes from rebels other than the fight between Ashoka and Vader and kanan vs the temple guard (inquisitor). But I can remember so so so many other scenes from the clone wars. It had wayyy more depth to it.
CW had so many more amazing moments... Obi-Wan faking his death and Anakin's reaction Ashoka's hunt and trial Pong Krell betraying his troops Palpatine vs Maul/Savage Dooku, Anakin, and Obi escaping capture Griveous and his hillarious interactions with the B1 Battledroids and so on...
The fact that I saw my brother watching parts of the finale and legitimately thought they were just random episodes says a lot about this show’s lack of actual tension
The only things about rebels i actually care about :Thrawn, Ashoka, Maul. Also how the fuck does spinning a double sided lightsaber fast make you fucking fly?!
Emo Otaku Asoka, Rex, Vader and Thrawn I ever cared about. Kanan and Hero together was alright but everyone else didn't care for, well maybe the cynical android.
VocalCalibration at least Tails have fur on his tails so he can create friction to eject air and fly like a helicopter while these light sabers spinning can’t eject air cause they’re made of laser or plasma which have very low weight results in low to none friction.
They added a more childish style so that small children can see their expressions and reactions. Clone Wars did it slightly, but that's typical of animation
And then they killed Gregor. Now he's not my favorite clone that would be Rex (duh) and Domino Squad along with Clone force 99. But Gregor was fucking amazing cuz he acts like I do in video games I play. And I love it. Fuck you Disney.
i really like the episode when Zeb find other Lasat it give us a little bit of Zeb's backstory. I also think The child, The warrior and The fool was a cool idea
HOW TO MAKE THIS SHOW BETTER •Clone wars animation style •Kill more people •Remove lightsaber helicopters (seriously those things are ridiculous) •Show that the empire is somewhat threatening •Have Thrawn do something useful •Where tf is Vader in seasons 3&4
@@eebrohim7001 The "grey tiny goblin" was one of the scariest motherfuckers in the old EU with a complex backstory who was ACTUALLY THREATENING. Then they ruined him and made him into... that.
darthrex354 not only that but they’re culture revolves around worshiping DARTH VADER and they looked not like grey people with pimples on their foreheads but like dinosaurs crossed with SKELETONS.
I posted this elsewhere, but I'll post it again: Ahsoka should have stayed dead. Her ending with Vader was such a great and touching scene at the end of season 2, but it looks like the writers can't bring themselves to let go of the character. Which is ironic, given the main message of that ep. Look, I don't have any problem with the idea of Ahsoka surviving. If it was done well i'd be ok with it. But i feel like that ep completely undermines the ending of season 2. Whenever i go and rewatch season 2, it isn't going to be emotional at all, knowing that Ahsoka is just going to get pulled into a magic time portal. This just means that there's another Force user running around pre-ANH. Not only that, so Vader just saw someone pull Ahsoka into a portal, and didn't bother to investigate further? Like i alr said, it's super ironic how the message of that ep is that Ezra has to let go of Kanan and accept his death, but the writers cannot leave Ahsoka dead and have to bring her back.
BattleUp Saber I've always been torn about things like this. On one hand I'm happy that she's alive since I love her character, on the other hand she was done developing and her death made sense narrative wise
I feel they did this with geonosis. When I heard they got mass genocided I thought holy shit that's actually pretty dark. Fast forward a season later and there's a survivor with the ex machina to save his species. Now the shock and awe is killed
The worst part is the fact that Clone Wars died for this. Edit: I knew that Clone wars was coming back, but if it wasn’t the very vocal community, it would have come back. Disney didn’t car about, they didn’t want it back. Also S7 is amazing.
One thing that really bugged me about the action scenes with Ezra and Kanan is that they would never actually slice the stormtroopers, because I guess that is to "violent". Yet they can deflect lasers back at them and shoot them. Just me?
I actually disagree with you that Ahsoka living ruins Luke being the last jedi. Even back in Legends canon, there was always other jedi that survived Order 66, but Luke was the only one that was able to truly destroy Vader, by saving Anakin. Not even Ahsoka could do that.
Yeah them being alive doesn't ruin it for me as well. Not really sure why it would for anybody, or that he said they were more powerful than luke. Ahsoka is very powerful but Luke has infinite more potential than her. After all, Obi Wan and Yoda lived through nearly the whole galactic civil war and never tried to challenge vader/palp till Luke came along
The amount of old jedi that survived order 66 and the empire is absolutely fucking ridiculous in the old canon. Its one of the really bad parts of the old Canon. It really does destroy Luke. Hell the whole we will make Luke this overpowered godlike character was shitty aswell. Most of legends that goes past Ep6 was really whacky and inconsistent and i am happy with it getting scrapped.
@@mcstotti8691 Yeah because Disney NEVER went over the top and wacky. (-_-) Seriously, both are guilt of that crap. Also, at least Luke built his power over the years than in just a few days. And as for the Jedi part, I still stand by what I said. The Jedi that survived was still small and it is a big galaxy. Even then, they were too afraid to fight Vader due to that lie the Emperor spread on how Vader killed 50 Jedi on his own. Plus as I said, Luke was still the only one that could save Anakin. Screw Disney Canon!
@@joegreen3802 I never liked either versions of the post-episode 6 galaxy (I thought legacy was fun tho) but at least the expanded universe allowed Luke and his friends to grow and change. The new canon just had them fail and repeat the mistakes of their predecessors, making them complete failures and their actions pretty much useless in the grand scheme. Also, I don't remember the expanded universe having time travel to save beloved characters from crap writing like this show so yeah, screw the new canon!
It shouldn't tbh. And here's why. If you have large enough fan base ,which Star Wars has more than enough,some fan-made things are bound to be better than the official stuff. That doesn't prove anythng about the quality of the official product.
It’s easier to see something and say how it can be improved than make something from scratch. I’m not saying all writers are great but writing something new is harder than improving something
I don’t agree with the World Between Worlds. It felt like a contrived aspect forced into the universe just to explain how Ahsoka could duel Anakin but survive.
Also her just seemingly vanishing as he slashes at her with his lightsaber probably stuck with him to A New Hope, most likely making him think as he kills Obi-Wan "Why the hell does this keep happening?"
World Between Worlds feels like something which doesn´t belong in SW. The same goes for the witches from Dathomir and the Force gods (Father, Daughter, Son). The only magic/god-like power in SW should be the Force. Once you start to add some generic fantasy elements, it slowly degrades SW into a random, generic fantasy. None of these ideas and characters are bad. They just don´t fit in Star Wars.
@@Mouse_Metal these ones you describe are all Force users tho, even the witches are described by the wiki as a peculiar kind of dark side wielders. The Force IS the only magic present in Star Wars, it's just that different force-sensitive groups have mastered different forms of it. I do feel kinda weird about Father, Daughter and Son all dying at the end of the arc tho, because the way they were presented made me think they were immortal allegories for different facets of the Force itself. Guess they were just very powerful but mortal Force users, though not powerful enough to defeat the protagonists...
When you blame Disney and realise Dave Filoni made most of this shit and people complain about Ezra coincidentally being found and so powerful completely forget that he would of been found for being force sensitive and not randomly by Kanan if the empire didn’t take over since he was born when it got established in a middle time
Why would they do that? it’s the reason they cancelled CW in the first place, Disney didn’t like it was becoming darker and more mature and not frootloops colorful kiddie shit
Remember when Maul beheaded children then Savage imailed Adi Gallia with his horns then beheaded Pre Vizla and then impaled Satine in front of Obi-Wan? Man, that show got dark.
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Who else is watching this after The New Episodes of Ahsoka? Seriously. My friends tell me Rebels is good constantly, everytime I tell them I don't care, they think I hate Star Wars. I'm glad there is someone that doesn't like Rebels as much as I did when I decided one day, I wanted to marathon the series with my friends to give it a chance...only to be bored and disgusted by how horrible and lazy this show was for the surprisingly same reason that Marcus has, I had too! And then when I see characters from Rebels...my dad... who hates all of the Cartoons...I finally can agree with him with he sees who these characters are and how horrendous they are.
David Silva I mean Vader thinks that he killed ahsoka right? If I recall correctly he doesn’t see her being saved by Ezra so he must think that he killed her and that’s why he never bothered to keep looking for her
Christian Langford agreed, the good thing about it though is that the creators accept it is only for kids instead of trying to rope in adults like in Rebels
it's a kids show no doubt. it ruined phasma and provided almost no context on the resistance/first order conflict. it had major plot shifts as well. we also got this dude flying a weird red (sorry for the pun) tie-brid between fighter and interceptor . if I wanted to make it better I would end the next season with rebel cells and imperial remnant in the far outer rim teaming up against the first order imagine an at te squad facing an at m6 or even an at act against a first order at at also it is my firm belief that in resistance AND epidode 9 that the resistance should have heavily modded at rts SPOILER ALERT in battlefront 2 they explain how Poe got the dreadnought plans and that is a really good tie in and in one episode they show.... mining too make blasters, companies moving to outer rim to help first order now this was helpfull because I think kuyat driveyards moved into the outer rim to make/upgrade walkers I think the first order should have at ap squads to make up for at m6 deployment in more confined areas one more thing is that they should have an episode of it be dedicated to finding old rebel blueprints so they can make the rz2 a wing thank you ever so much if you read till the end and reply your thoughts on my opinions just take it easy i belive that Disney still has at most a 10% chance of fixing their star wars mistakes once again thank you for your time
You know, he might not be dead, as Ezra was also warped, and well obviously he isn’t dead. And with the First Order being founded largely by former Imperial officers and aristocracy, maybe Thrawn returns in 9, as a secondary villain?
The time travel crap pissed me off because it was a cop out to bring Ahsoka back. Her death in season 2 was a perfect end to her character arc that began in Clone Wars. I agree with everything you said though (except the comparison to Phantom Menace) . Kinda makes me question if Dave Filoni really is a creative genius without Lucas to supervise him...
lol she never died it was just made to look like that even without the time ep i know Ahsoka didn't die then , Ankin and Ahsoka are linked to their deaths meaning they die at same time they are blood brother and sister (The Ones) from Clone Wars.
@@Revilod No, but she only survived because Ezra pulled her out through the time travel portal. I don't like this at all. Also, the terrible sequel trilogy might use this as their final resort in Episode 9. Bleh :(
Imperial Officer: “Hey Thrawn, we have the chance to take the rebels out right now! Let’s do it” Thrawn: “No........ let them go, because of....... *strokes chin..... strategy.....”
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the only time where thrawn himself is outsmarted by them is when alladin pulls the space whales out his ass, which thrawn had no way of knowing about. The rest of the time it's his underlings fucking up
@@adudeontheinternet8246 Thing is: -Admiral Thrawn, it's space whales! They are attackig us! -Why don't you try shooting them? -Oh, sure. A few minutes later the Star Destroyers have killed all the space whales. -Sorry sir. I panicked for a while. -Captain, they were space whales. Worst thing they could do was to headbutt our ships. What do you think is harder? An animal or a mile long armored warhip? My point is, this whole situation was beyond retarded. It had the same logic as the original 1984 Transformers catroon where the Decepticons were defeated by some dinosaurs. Not Dinobots. Normal dinosaurs.
@@adudeontheinternet8246 thrawn is only one part of the flawed rebels plot, they were underfunded, outmanned, outgunned, outnumbered rebels that sat right under the nose of imperials for four entire seasons, which I'm guessing is canonically over the course of a year or two? ones that survived encounters with Darth Vader and 4 different inquisitors which are trained to hunt jedi? And they impersonated imperial personnel how many times without getting caught? I know there was a reason for getting away every time but it just makes the empire seem weak and incompetent
I wish instead of the whales coming out, I wish the remainder of the CIS fleet attacked the empire. (Reason why, is an Droid general survived in season 3)
I watched this whole series, and it did one thing right. The scene were ashoka cuts vaders mask, and you can see Anakin, and you hear Anakin and Darth Vader at the same time. That was good shit.
So the good shit in Rebels is done by Clone Wars characters.....
Federica Fortunato although ahsoka leaving the jedi kind of moves some distrust from anakin to the council which kind of powers his motives against them
key word kind of lol she was a better fit in tcw
Yes but if you look in his mask he has eyebrows and isn't burned up. But other than that it was amazing
@@third-ratedude4234 yep.... sad..isn't it...?
The Clone Wars had a zombie virus episode. My 12 year old self shit my pants and it was amazing.
Middle of season 1.
Also when they show the zombie night sisters that scared the shit out of me as a kid 😂
WishingPole “shit my pants and it was amazing” that’s a weird kink but you do you man
WishingPole I don’t know what it is but that episode still scares the shit out of me to this day
That two-parter geonosis episode, first with the geonosian zombies and then with the worms going in all the clone troopers’ noses while Ahsoka has to survive was some of the scariest shit my 8 year old self had ever seen. Deleted that off my DVR right as the episode finished because I knew there was no way in hell I was watching that again.
Can we just admit that the best part of the series is confirming captian rex is that old guy on endor?
Actualy it was confirmed by Filoni, so...yeah
Bodark They really did not give Rex the bad ass portrayal he deserved in this series...
ugh why does the left have to take the fun out of everything
William Robb I’m sorry but you’re wrong Rex WAS at the battle of endor and it is confirmed by Sabine Wren when she told in the last scene that so Hera and Rex fought there. Check out the last scene if you havent
Just check out Ryno’s upload of star wars rebels emding scene and skip to 1:16 and you’ ll hear this
Ok in defense of Kanan’s haircut, he cut it himself and also he’s blind.
Pokemichael it’s kinda weird seeing a comment with over 100 likes with no (now 1) reply
Star Wars Rebels fans have to defend Star Wars Rebels all the time
@Emperor ShyGuy So do prequel fans your point?
@@emperorshyguy8429 well if your a fan of something you will try to defend it.
Yeah he never actually acts like hes blind. I know he "sees with the force" but i would ve expect him to at least act like he didnt see
I wish this video was just you saying No.
Would have been hilarious.
I legitimately almost did that.
Jordan keane
he could just release a 15 minuts video with just displaying only "no" through the entire video. if it was released in april fools. 👌👌
I appreciate the video so i can save myself hours of my life and not watch this garbage. I made it through season 1 and just decided to maybe catch up later. NOPE!
+WillFanofMany if a show ain't worth shit season one? It ain't worth shit the second,it's a gradual process of being worth shit.
I don't. That was awesome. I agree 100%. Well 99%.. That magic time travel was BS. Did not think that was good at all. Okay cool voices from the previous movies. 1 brownie point from the fans. But that's about it. Okay so. Palpatine can enter that realm cause he's a space wizard? Granted he is. But he ain't Lord Voldemort. That's Not how the Force works!
Lastly the ONLY good thing that came out of this series was that Old Ben Kenobi Vs. Darth Maul fight. That was excellent and excecuted with class. No flashy bs. We got a believable Alec Guinness style obi wan with his dissective speech fused with Ewan McGregor/Kenobi's defensive tactics style. Overall that might be the only thing that is a.saving grace for the show. Ahsoka was great to see but not enough to save the show.
This is really depressing with Rukh.
Rukh was the grey alien, but in the novels and comics, he was basically Thrawn's bodyguard, but had ideals of his own, and followed his own code. Thrawn trusted him, but you could tell a lot of what Rukh did was on his own. He would often harass and sneak up on officers to test their awareness, and was THE guy to finally kill Thrawn once he found out the Empire was lying to the Noghiri.
To see such an interesting side character that worked well with Thrawn reduced to "That Grey Ninja Guy". Is really depressing.
zillafire101 Oh snap they really fucked him up.
Right though? I wish they hadn't touched the EU characters at all. Just leave the separate canon alone instead of bringing things back just to ruin it and appeal with shallow fan service.
zachanikwano Anytime they bring up EU content it fails at times or didn't developed as much. Like how they mentioned the old republic once.
zachanikwano I’m starting to agree with this statement more. Many people were complaining when they found out Boba Fett wouldn’t be in Season 4 of Rebels. But truthfully, I’m glad they didn’t bring him back. As sad as it is, this show could’ve easily reduced Boba to a generic bad guy.
ASlimySlugIsInvadingYourBase Id rather they not do that reboot the old republic era. Let that stay on the games and comic and books. They already made Thrawn a talk shit do no shit type person.
I'm suddenly realizing that only liked the bits with Maul and Ahsoka
and vader
And Thrawn, kinda.
And Rex
Cause Disney is a parasite, and leeches off actual character development
I liked Rebels, it's a stupid show but if I turn my brain off I can enjoy it. However I will never forgive that they crammed Ezra into the Vader vs Ahsoka and Obi-Wan vs Maul conflicts. He had no right being there. Hell, half of the Ahsoka vs Vader fight is OFF SCREEN so we can focus on Ezra. Makes me so mad, especially because Anakin/Vader and Ahsoka are my top 2 favourite characters in the franchise so I was really looking forward to the reunion.
I just can’t not laugh when the inquisitors are flying around with their lightsabers. It looks so stupid
Why doesn't everyone have helicopter sabers I want to palpatine doing it because that be even funnier
@@alumlovescake ITS TREASON THEN, *palpatine starts flying*
I love Rebels and honestly think it's better than CW but yeah that was so dumb
@@dinglemeister364 I mean each to their own but I personally don't like rebels and its on the same level as episode 8 for me
Like it's a LIGHT saber, how can you fly with light?
Rebels: OMG SOMEONE DIED LETS MAKE AN ENTIRE EPISODE ABOUT HOW GOOD THEY WERE!
Clone Wars: Oh.. Someone died.. that sucks..
"Jeez, its not like were in a massive war and countless people die daily or something... oh wait.."
Yeasty Yeastington so you enjoyed that heap of shit of a show????
Jacob Cook what and rebels is better? Christ
And yet the deaths in clone wars are characters you actually give a shit about
Jacob Cook clone wars is a work of art. Ye u sometimes have bad episodes but 9/10 episodes are good.
Snoke is actually Ezra and in this essay I will-
MJ THE GREAT he cut himself off for comedic purposes
Well that joke did not age well
Brayden Surprise Snokes in a jar! Too many snokes ;)
God, I wish...
"My Boy...... I made Ezra Bridger!"
*Cuts to Annoying Pickles*
I’ll honestly say, at the very least, the scene with darth Vader and ahsoka in the temple where you hear anakins voices buried under the the filter made me super emotional
DeKukrunk same
Yea, Cosmonaut agreed with you in his previous video. That scene is amazing
And the duel with maul and obi-wan.
“And Star Wars planets don’t even matter that much, and there pretty disposable to”
Alderan will remember that
You mean every individual atom now scattered throughout the galaxy will.
No it wont
He CLEARLY doesn't understand what's so vital about Lothal, Alderaan, and the other planets.😒
Survivors of Alderan: “And I took that personally.”
Kind of true but Ik a lot of fans value Tatooine.
Good scene: *exists*
Ezra: I wIsH i WaS tHaT gOoD
Ahsoka and Darth Vader: *Have the clear highlight of the show, with one of the most intense and emotionally investing parts of both the Clone Wars and Rebels series*
Ezra: wOaH i NeEd MoAr TrAiNiNg!!!!11!1!
*Cuts to Maul screaming into the void*
This show had fat boy and green woman hot topic girl and droid and two Jedi and fucking helicopters
Ezra: "Wow, guess I need to drink my Ovaltine."
Dude I made this comment
"BONK, just hit em in the head. Don't stab them. No don't do that, just hit em in the head"
Gotta keep that show child friendly
Maria Meanwhile in the original 6 hands, arms and head were chopped like there is no tomorrow. Make it lame doesn’t equal child friendly. And George said that Star Wars is for 12 year olds.
Roland Kovács meanwhile grievous and his droid army are COMMITTING ACTUAL GENOCIDE ON DATHOMIR
I mean head injuries can be pretty life threatening. You ever had someone wack your dome with the butt of a rifle and then got back up to fight.
Nick Spencer this is true but you don’t see that stuff and the hitting wasn’t that type it’s literally Tom and Jerry level bonking on the head with a base ball bat.
The Last Airbender has tonal shifts ... You have Airbender genocide next to Sokka getting fish hooks stuck in fingers. Yet it works. What makes that work versus here. Not disagreeing by the way. I also feel Rebels is off balanced. But what’s the difference.
Funny
This is the same question I asked myself for year's
Antoine Bandele yeah.
Antoine Bandele i would say that the tonal shifts are not dissonant. when the episode is serious, it is serious, vice versa. even when they mix the themes in each episode. the characters are always still aware of the consequences of their decisions and what mood a scene has. legend of korra does this poorly compared to atla actually.
I think what made the tonal shifts work in ATLA was that they were logical and driven by the differing well-established personalities of the characters involved, whereas in Rebels its much more random and more obviously driven by the whims of the creative team
oraha
lok comes of as a little more childish then atla, even though it's creators said they wanted to make a more ,,mature" storyline and characters
The most frustrating part of season 4 was seeing how Sabines family seemingly died because of her creation and that was a pretty emotional scene and i was like dang i finally get to see sabine become a character? But no only to find that the weapon she made that vaporized everyone else didnt kill her mom and brother because “wE cAnT hAvE faMilY DiE tHatS nOt hOw fAmiLy woRkS iN reAL LiFe”
I mean don't you think it's because they were the ones who actually got warned by Sabine? That was made pretty clear in the show as the only reason they were able to escape the blast mostly unharmed.
The whole premise of this Mary Sue being even bigger Mary Sue than she already was through the series and making her also a supergenius who invented a superweapon when she was like 12 was a superdumb idea in the first place.
She also trained like one or two days with the darksaber and was able to keep up with a Jedi.
Meanwhile in canon part of the galaxy: Din cut himself and struggled with the "weight" of it, and Paz who is huge and strong could barely use the darksaber because of its "weight".
Sabine should not even be able to hold it still if it´sTHAT hard to wield it without proper training.
Yess, man I hate Sabine, rebels is basically this the "force of the friendship " that saves all and everybody 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
They kill her entire family anyways.
@@Mouse_Metal We see her train with kanan one or two times, that doesnt mean it wasn't something they likely did more. Also you discount how much of a difference that makes. a jedi will always make a better teacher than the armorer when it comes to LIGHTSABER combat. Even if it may have been executed poorly in the show, the canon explanation for sabine being able to learn to wield it is a valid one. Also, it has to do with the 'weight' of emotions and internal conflict in the user. There was a canon explanation that mando's attachment to grogu and his inner conflict is what made him have trouble with it. And even then, we see him get better with it pretty quickly in the book of boba. Right after he gets grogu back
WE SHOULD TAKE *_the enemy fleet_* AND PUSH IT SOMEWHERE ELSE
That might just be crazy enough...
TO GET US ALL KILLED!
GrantKP he should have been the tough guy instead of downgraded Chewbacca.
Bruh when I read this comment, that part played.
[ SiegeBrickStudios ] and spare them for tros
I thought this show would give Captain Rex a chance to see Commander Cody, however, that great opportunity was squandered for space whales.
I didn't mind the space whales, but not seeing Commander Cody, and possibly having him fight Rex, was missed potential.
I'm not entirely sure but I think there's a comic that says cody died before the events of this show.
I prefer Legends. Cody stays with the Empire and is apalled by the horrendous failures of Imperial recruits. Hell Cody in one mission, sacrificed 100 Stormtroopers, just so he could save one of his remaining Clone brethren. When scolded by his superiors, he simply stated the fact that the Empire was simply better off with Clones in their army and went back resuming his role as commander of Imperial forces.
How could you think that? Judging from Rex, Cody would be way too old to serve in the Empire at this time
JNeumy He could have served a strategic role. Yularen and Tarkin were not young themselves
rebels made maul die just so people would say maul died in rebels.
AHHHH NOOOOO!!! You're so right... Dang.
At least we still have 6 and now 7 seasons of clone wars though, with a lot of enjoyable episodes and storylines throughout.
He still got a great death scene, it's better than the ambiguous death in Season 5 of Clone Wars
Dude are you talking about the fight with Darth Sidious when he specifically said. I’m not going to kill you, I have other uses for you.
Then you know he shocks Maul and he screams bloody murder with a truly dark end to an episode…
Then it’s followed by the cheerful credits music lol.
I didn’t mind it ending like that because the episodes we got leading up to that were some of the best episodes of Clone Wars. Plus that fight is just killer, my goodness here...
ua-cam.com/video/-7hBZNsPnyg/v-deo.html
Watch it again it’s freakin awesome:D
@@ezrat4370 yeah. Clone wars season 7 is great
Sam T
Um no, he didn’t die sidious specifically said he wasn’t going to kill him
“Ezra summoning Space Whales to kidnap Thrawn and warp him to... somewhere else” the best description of what happens there I’ve heard
Thrawn and Ezra are trapped in space IKEA
they send themselves to the back rooms of the galaxy also known as the unknown regions
I swear that finale was one of the most idiotic finales I have ever seen in a tv show. Anything would be better than fcking tentacle space whales kidnapping my man Thrawn and pulling him into hyperspace. Who wrote that shit?
“It’s a grey ninja... and this governor... lady.” Great way to describe these villains😂
They should've replaced the grey Ninja guy with, oh I don't know, *THE FREAKING EMPEROR.*
“Villains”
Team rocket but bad
She’s cool in thrawn tho
Why couldn’t it just be Palpatine, Thrawn, and maybe Tarkin? That would’ve been much cooler.
Show Writers: "I've got a great idea for the villain of this kids show. It'll be a psychotic murdering murderer, that's renowned for being ruthless and unstoppable."
Producer: "That doesn't sound very good, this is a kids show."
Show Writer: "Oh don't worry, he doesn't really hurt anyone, and the main characters beat him like he's a scooby-villain every other episode."
I actually did something like that for a fanfiction I wrote based on one of my favorite movies as a kid. I had a villain that could not be outsmarted and was also an amazing fighter. I even killed a main character from the original kids movie halfway through to raise the stakes and show that this guy cannot be underestimated. He has brilliant plans that truck the heroes into doing what he wants without them knowing
*coughs in original trilogy as I watch the main character beat Vader*
I wonder where they got the idea. Maybe it's because that's how Star Wars works? A rag tag group of misfits against impossible odds?
@@sageseeker9197 not really
SageSeeker did you miss the part where Vader cuts off lukes hand and he falls down a massive vent thing
I wish I could see his reaction of the first time the inquisitors fly... It would be amazing.
I remember smacking my mouse off my desk in disbelief like "ffuucckk mmmeee"
They fly now.
@@optillian4182 They fly now?
Nuclearpoweredturtle THEY FLY NOW!
Me: “Wait, wha????? How does that even??????”
does anyone else dislike the Rebels animation style? especially compared to CW
I don't really understand the whole kiddie stuff I watched it all recently at the age of 15 and I binged it better than CW I did not really have a problem with anything in the show
I think it’s definitely a downgrade because as Cosmo said it has a lot more colorful shading while rebels is just kinda bland colors but I also noticed that there were always just dots on characters faces and it really annoyed me
I find it very ugly tbh
The eyes, noses, and hair look like shit in rebels
I dislike the animation but I believe that nearing that from midway of s3 they tried to mess with the frame rate to make the action scenes look better which was an improvement. And the focus thing which they did when Ezra was fighting the red dudes was pre g. but overall BAD
9:09 Has anyone talked about how pathetic this part looks, you expect darth’s lightsaber to be intimidating but the way they angle it makes it look like he has a light knife, not a Sabre.
light noodle
Idk why they made all the lightsabers so small and skinny. The movie sabers are like bodybuilders but then this show's sabers are like the Holocaust survivors
In every appearance he has with his lightsaber, it’s projected out of his silhouette separating the lightsaber from his body. That’s why when people see a lightsaber beaming out they know shit is going down. What you said before, the angle makes it look like a small butter knife from a family guy skit.
Mad Titan Thanos the people knew what they were doing when they made them skinny I saw a video talking about why the lightsabers are skinny and how it makes more scientific sense in the star wars universe
Carnage yeah but that's not how they look in the movies so why retcon it for some bad kids show that no one will watch
"A good show had to die, for this one to be made..."
*Until now!*
*#CloneWarsSaved*
Except new clone wars is from the "Disney" star wars so you're going to have to hate it to keep up your anti-Disney bias
It's still disney they'll find a way to fuck it up you'll see
-Daniel Cibic
"Its still Disney they'll fund a way to fuck it up you'll see"
as he said the reason the clone wars was good was because they were being faced with cancellation towards the later seasons but rebels has/had a Disney sized budget and is made by the same people. but the clone wars reboot will have the same people and budget sooooooooooo.
Nicolas Mattson while Disney have lots of money for sure, considering how disappointing the results from the Star Wars franchise have been lately, maybe, just maybe... Disney will be more cautious this time around and won't just give them unlimited budget?
jpint01 i doubt its gonna be good but we will see
You know what would've been cool? If Rebels was also an anthology series. Think about it: Stories of ground soldiers fighting a losing battle against the empire. Pilots fighting tiny skirmishes against bigger odds. Watching stories of the empire absolutely crushing rebels left and right, some more morally ambiguous moments. Maybe a few reoccurring characters, but more like the clones characters. Even putting stories of Jedi's running away and hiding only to get hunted and killed.
What do you guys think?
Totally agree. The Clone Wars showed us the grand scale a galactic conflict in the Star Wars universe must have, from its core worlds to the remote outer rim. You could be seeing the 501st fighting droids on planetary battles, some times the episodes were set in Coruscant and the political turnmoils of the Senate, and others were about criminals who took no side in the war whatsoever. It taught us how complex and multilayered this universe was.
Rebels, on the other hand, just feels small...
Stop having good ideas!
It would be cool if Vader was a regular threat to the Jedi characters, the Jedi can't rely on their powers too much to get stuff done because otherwise Vader will figure out where they are. It bothers me in Rebels that the Jedi characters are way too quick to bust out a lightsaber. Honestly I say if this show was done over again, make Kanan the only Jedi character but he's the last resort character. He only comes in and uses his powers when he is absolutely needed. Because honestly, Kanan and Ezra's existence should've led to the Empire carpet bombing Lothal immediately.
Zangster
That sound.... pretty cool!
Nathan-DTS. The Rebel Alliance didnt exist yes, but there were many independent rebel groups fighting the Empire.
In defense of Kannan's hair, he cut it himself and Hera says she hates it so the show jokes at its own expense
Besides, he had it for like half an episode before he kicked the bucket
Well he’s also blind so….
Also he was blind.
Thats hella lazy writing
@@mangonion5085 how?
Not going to lie i would of loved it if ezra died so we shifted to kanin being the main character
I think everyone would be really happy if Ezra was topped tbh lol.
Nina a oh hell no
@@shenglmao he's the worst part of the show I wouldn't mind if he was killed, but each to their own g.
Nina a oh I didn’t understand ur sentence so I thought you like him I hate the character too I prefer the clone wars
Vader should’ve killed him before Ahsoka showed up in the season two finale.
The returning Clone Wars characters must have some horrible back pain after carrying this show
Edit: well, this comment blew up like the Death Star
Oh yea big time. They carried hard.After watching the carry that took place in Rebels, I feel like I have a chance at contributing to a 3v3 Rocket League game.
Mecha Meme Leader I mean Kanan was a decent character.
@Ben Dover ya man.their animation is a step down and their plot is predictable unlike clone wars.
@@darthirfan5581100% Agree
They're getting spine replacements. Their old spines were too far gone.
Rebels: 4 seasons (no one wants a season 5)
Clone Wars: 6 Seasons (everyone wants more)
Verdict: Clone Wars
Honestly it would've been dumb for Disney to do a fifth season of REBELS glad that it didn't happen.
Packers Nation should’ve stopped rebels at season 1 tbh
Eh nah no season 6 for clone wars. I think the 12 episodes they’re gonna release to conclude the series should be the end. I just hope the end is as good as the show was
Rebels ended in season 4, while The Clone Wars was canceled. Stop making false comparisons.
@@optillian4182 they're bringing it back for a season 7 and everyone was blow up that trailer video for season 7 weeks f clone wars, pretty sure everyone wants more
The thin lightsabers aren’t the problem. It’s that they’re disproportionately sized. If you want thin blades you need thinner, more narrow hilts. Which means you have to change the sizes of the characters. Vader’s blade didn’t bother me because Vader was thinner in the show than the movies. The blade felt like it matched the thickness of the character. They can’t make Ezra and Kansan an average, normal human size and give them normal sized savers, but make the blades look like toothpicks
Agreed. It looked pretty strange seeing the thin blade coming out of the wide blade emitter of Obi-wan's lightsaber hilt.
Star Wars The Clone Wars
A war left unfinished...
Until now!!!!!!!!!!!
it won't finish, the so called "end of clone wars" isn't until first half of episode 3
Rip
...wasn't it finished by Episode III? That was kind of the point
@Team Tundra 2
I actually hope their final arc is about order 66 and how the clones felt about it.
@@Klodhvig like what?
You know, I'm fine with Ahsoka living past ROTJ, but there needs to be a REALLY good explanation as to why she never appears.
YoshiPlaysMC my prediction was Ezra dies and no one goes to find her because he didn't tell anyone
She stayed in hiding until the war was over, then headed to the unknown regions with Sabine to find Ezra. It's completely possible they just haven't come back yet, if ever
Joshua D But why was she in hiding until the war was over? That's what I want to know. Why not come back sooner and help everyone?
SeannyBravo I guess it could be a simple matter that no one knew she was alive so she had no means off of Malachor. Since there was no body I imagine Vader would destroy all the Inquisitors' TIEs to make absolutely sure that she was no longer a threat (I know it's weird that he'd leave if he even suspected she was alive but I imagine since she was in the world between worlds he couldn't sense her at all so he'd assume she was dead) so she had no ship to leave on. Ezra disappears like the next day so it's possible he didn't mention her to anyone (it'd be stupid if he didn't but let's be real a lot of things he does are stupid) so no one would come get her. As to how she got back after ROTJ, it's anyone's guess, her story is far from over, I'm personally hoping she finds a way to contact Rex to let him know where she is, because she's the last friend he has from the old days and it'd be nice to see him happy for once
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Rebels when someone dies: omg no he was amazing we’re now all sad I can’t believe this
Clone wars: weaklings die, big deal
99 is a god shut
Except fives, echo (before season 7), 99, and maybe satine cause of sad Obi wan. Those were pretty emotional.
don't you call any of the clones weaklings
@@ncberg05 I mean, I feel like the death of 99 was forced. If he stayed in cover and listened he would have been fine but he died for nothing. I wish his death had more meaning but it didn't for me so I wasn't really moved by it. Satine though... That shit was so sad, definitely when you look in Obi-wan's eyes and see how he starts tearing up
@@briandavis1692 yup i watched the episode a few days ago. Looked like 99 just ran straight into fire
"Hellicopter lightsaber wow, this lightsaber spins arooouund and this lightsaber is a gun, BONK BONK BONK, Another stormtrooper costume, IS IT STAR WARS? IS IT STAR WARS YET?"
Micky Mouse trying to appeal to the fans be like:
If Star Wars actually listened to what fandoms wanted, we’d have gotten a whole season filled with only original- and prequel-era shit no one wants to see anymore.
@@thefilmwatcher1302 hmm yes, when the fans get what they want they don’t get what they want, L O O G I K
@@thefilmwatcher1302 TCW S7 and Rebels are literally those
@@legoroan9866 disney was so proud of the martez sisters arc that I swear theyre gonna call those bitches force sensitive next week
Dumbledore
Gandalf
Obi Wan Kenobi
Kanan
Uncle Ben
Pa Kent
You were right, mentors are always the ones to die.
U missed one:
Grampa Gohan.
Ultra Nerd
Sirius Black
Qui Gon Jinn
I might be dead but I can still hear you!
Hello there
Ultra Nerd It’s literally a part of the hero’s journey that says the mentor MUST die.
if you can't pronounce ahsoka
just call her snips
Dr. Breen's Private Reserve
That's a pretty good idea Sky Guy.😋
Dr. Breen's Private Reserve It's fine. Neither can Ian McDiarmid.
Dr. Breen's Private Reserve I would, but I can't remember who that is. They put something in the water to make me forget. I don't even remember how I got here.
The animation in rebels really bothers me. Everyone looks like their made of a soft plush clay or cotton, like maul who had these firm jagged edges to his face and whole body was replace by this oval face with NO marks or depth on him at all..really its a disappointment.
The fingers are another thing that bothers me, all lady hands.
“It’s suppose to look like that because it pays homage/tribute to old artwork”
It was an excuse for the lower budget really. Clone Wars was Lucas’s pet project and he poured tons of money into it.
The dialogue animation also sucks. They move their heads SO MUCH while talking. If I moved my head like that on a conversation, I'd look like a fucking weirdo.
Red I know that it was supposed to it tried and failed, if you look at clone wars it looks way more artistic on how each character model was made, if you really focus on any character in cw you'd see that they have this brush strock affect all over their body, like if you look at maul you can see the brush strokes that makes out his tattoos and skin and cloths.
In rebels there is no style that's consistant, the character models look like the original concept art could've been taken from anywhere. Also none of the character models have any texture (skin, hair, eyes cloths etc) other then looking like you could squish their face in.
Cosmonaut’s metal breakdown at the end is by far his best moment
If being a dumb idiot is his best moment, then yeah, i don’t know how anyone can respect his opinions. He just follows public opinion about the media he’s reviewing, for the views. Can’t you see that? Everything he ever reviews is dogshit to him. Except the old stuff! This fucking idiot
While I don't hate this show as much as you do( that energy is reserved for the last two Spider-man cartoons we got) I feel your pain. I was excited when this show was announced but I kept dropping it and trying to pick it up every time something like Maul or Ashoka happened, I just wanted more Clone Wars not...this
Jslicer13 I felt the same way about all of what you said. Man, I miss Spectacular Spiderman and Clone Wars. 😟
Jslicer13 Yeah the new one and ultimate are a down grade of spectacular. However I would out ultimate above the new current one because at times they do try to make scenes matter.
I didn't really expect anything specifically, I say I dropped it because it just felt off whenever I tried to watch, to the point that I really just didn't want to watch past five minutes of any given episode. With Clone Wars or even other shows I just like what that show does on a whole but I don't want rebels to be the same as Clone Wars, Clone Wars had a certain feeling to it and Rebels doesn't have that
I feel exactly the same way. While Rebels isn't very good, I still think it's fun. But Marvel's Spider-Man is only good for laughing at, and Ultimate Spidey isn't watchable at all.
Jslicer13 maul episodes were absolutely boring, I still think he should of died in TCW. They've stretched him out too far.
I'm not feeling the thin lightsabers either. They just look weird
It based on original concept for lightsaber.So they kind of want to appreciate people work.
Just like Clone Wars their Venator is a little bit different from movie.This is not a issue.
@@lindada4495 Shoulda listened to what he explains about that cop-out in the beginning of the video...
I like the saber trails better than the clone wars, but the thin sabers are no
Linda Da there’s a reason the movies got rid of the thin lightsabers ASAP. They look weird.
i rather have thicccc lightsabers
I don’t “hate” this show but clone wars is better by a light year
a person on youtube "a" light year
At least 12 parsecs better lol (39 and a bit light years)
*12 parsects
Ethan Harper *parsec
100000 Parsecs
Finished the rebels just now and felt something was off, this video perfectly summed it up. I wouldn't say it's shit, but it's definitely nothing special. Its kind of like those filler episodes you get in anime where you put it on in the background and just wait for it to be over, but in this case, it spanned 75 episodes.
75 episodes of pain
Worth a mention that Thrawne only lost due to plot armour and his subordinates disobeying him.
And not being prepared for a giant fungus moose that could become a storm and space whales, the only contingencies he was not prepared for.
Thrawn lost because of poor writing :(
Man those Rebels in all actuality would have been defeated by Thrawn I mean he literally almost defeated the New Republic in his Heir to the Empire book series. Like he almost captured Luke and would have if Luke didn’t pull a move that was extremely unexpected and almost destroyed him and his ship.
Impliying that the original Star Wars doesn't have plot armor.
The entire original trilogy dissapears if stormtroopers actually know how to aim and if the Empire destroyed the Escape Pod right at the start of A New Hope but it's convenient for Hero's Journey, "There are droids on board" .
This is the biggest sin of Star Wars, Plot Armor is everywhere, even Palpatine in the prequels just has a lot of plot armor to protect him from the Jedi Order.
@@saricubra2867 ok buddy stormtroopers can aim and for one when Luke was escaping Vader Wanted them to escape so he told the stormtroopers to miss intentionally so yea they can aim like look at so right after roughe one they butchered those rebels
The worst part about this show is that its canon
well, it doesnt have to be for you, its not like Ezra is gonna show up and start dry humping rey just cuz he "technically exists in the same universe" i mean its interesting to see how they will use darth maul in the kenobi series now that the maul and kenobi arc was ended in some garbage episode in a kiddie show, cuz he has been teased in the end of Solo and their is no way they can not have him as a main antagonist in some form during the kenobi move
@@madaboutit2306 yea but thrawn is in this show
It hurts just thinking about it 😖
@@skelling5991 and he can't beat a bunch of idiots
@@madaboutit2306 Well seeing as Kanan and Ahsoka's voices appeared in Rise of Skywalker, its a bit hard to ignore its canonical status.
We cancelled Clone Wars to get Space Alladin and His Magic Whales
And people say Rey's a mary-sue. I say that's bullshit. The sequel trilogy gave character and flaws both to protagonist and antagonist. While Star Wars Rebels makes it too one-dimensional.
Mitchell Benford it’s really sad that the sequels which really aren’t that bad get all this hate and “criticism” (rise of skywalker was pretty bad but force awakens was great and 8 was also pretty solid) but then rebels is praised when it’s worse in nearly every way
@@insertnamehere3045 I may disagree with your view on the rise of skywalker, but yeah Rebels is bad.
Mitchell Benford I think that’s fair tbh I honestly didn’t even hate rise of skywalker I just thought that final battle with Rey and palpatine was awful
@@insertnamehere3045 Yeah, a lightsaber battle would have been awesome
“The best way to fix this show is to just make it solely for children. Don’t try to trick nostalgic man children like myself into watching the show”.
I 100% agree with this. I almost got tricked into watching this show because people took the 5 best nostalgic scenes like Obi-Wan vs. Darth Maul and Ashoka vs. Vader and blew it out of proportion because they left out all of the crappy parts. I knew basically nothing about the show until watching your videos about it and I’m so glad you made these because now I don’t have to waste my time. I remember watching Ashoka vs. Vader and thinking that was epic but then seeing this random kid and I was like who tf is that but now I know lol. Someone even made a video claiming that the final duel between Obi-Wan vs. Darth Maul in this show was the best lightsaber fight of all time. I definitely got baited but it is still pretty epic. Like you said, that whole episode should’ve just been those two characters. I feel like whoever made that video was trying to hype up the show by saying that was best lightsaber fight of all time but who knows. Maybe he just liked that one scene and that was it. Anyways this show is definitely one big bait.
“Seeing a random kid”
Umm. Is this your first Star Wars thing? 🤦🏻♂️
@@face1339you should see a real star wars not baby wars from Disney
@@picksleet9268
Sir, I assure you that I have been here from the beginning.
Star Wars has always been aimed at kids my dude. It cracks me up when folks like you get so fired up about pretend. 😂🤡
I wanna see kylo ren make a chopper lightsaber lol
coralin378 he just gets fucking shot and the movie ends
I can’t wait for him to use his lightsaber to fly! Totally not being sarcastic at all.
Giovanni Gomez r u ok?
*Fortunate son intensifies*
Ima be honest, if they did that in episode 9 I would give it a 10/10 because it would be the funniest thing in the universe.
This vid makes me want to watch the entire Clone Wars again.
Netro Lancer dew it
You can say that again pal.
Same
@@drewblencowe7457 five days actually
@@drewblencowe7457 Feb 21st is only 5 days away.
I just want to say. I remember almost no scenes from rebels other than the fight between Ashoka and Vader and kanan vs the temple guard (inquisitor). But I can remember so so so many other scenes from the clone wars. It had wayyy more depth to it.
Not even High Ground vs Half a maul?
Vizsla vs Maul, need I say more lmao
Maul's comeback tour: I'm half the Maul I used to be.
Hell I remember 5s when people are talking about the clone wars and I couldn't even remember sabine
CW had so many more amazing moments...
Obi-Wan faking his death and Anakin's reaction
Ashoka's hunt and trial
Pong Krell betraying his troops
Palpatine vs Maul/Savage
Dooku, Anakin, and Obi escaping capture
Griveous and his hillarious interactions with the B1 Battledroids
and so on...
The fact that I saw my brother watching parts of the finale and legitimately thought they were just random episodes says a lot about this show’s lack of actual tension
The only things about rebels i actually care about :Thrawn, Ashoka, Maul. Also how the fuck does spinning a double sided lightsaber fast make you fucking fly?!
Emo Otaku Asoka, Rex, Vader and Thrawn I ever cared about. Kanan and Hero together was alright but everyone else didn't care for, well maybe the cynical android.
Oh shit i completely forgot rex was in the show. Only scenes i have watcher are Vader vs Ashoka Maul vs Kenobi and the dumb ending to Thrawn
Tails logic?
VocalCalibration at least Tails have fur on his tails so he can create friction to eject air and fly like a helicopter while these light sabers spinning can’t eject air cause they’re made of laser or plasma which have very low weight results in low to none friction.
Captain-general Kitten Well that's the best I got. Show's garbage one way or another.
Official leaks right here:
In EP 9 Ray's new red lightsaber is actually a helicopter lightsaber
You know, I thought you were playing me. But you were right...
“Ma Roflcopter goes SOI SOI SOI”
@@sea-bassisabottlecapco3767 Is that a Arby n' the Chief reference? 😂
Elise
... possibly
Archie Silvester lmaooooo
Its better when you watch rebels on death sticks
* Waves hand * You should go home and rethink your life
*you wanna buy some death sticks?*
I tired that. Still didn't work :( Maybe sand might help...
OH HELL YEAH!!!!!
The makers of this show really need to rethink their lives.
Why does every character in this show talks with this head movement of down, side, up? Seriously, I can't be the only one that noticed this right?
it's painful to look at when they do that.
In the clone wars is the exact same .___.
They added a more childish style so that small children can see their expressions and reactions. Clone Wars did it slightly, but that's typical of animation
Nope this is one reason why I personally hate the animation
If a human attempted to replicate their movements, then their neck would snap
When you care more about that one clone trooper that grievous stomped on more than any main character in this show.
That shit looked painful
Yep, accurate.
Or that Jedi that suffered the same fate in the 2-D Clone Wars, Sha-Gi
Or that mandalorian who slapped ashoka's ass
Linctonamor you mean Bo-Katan.
Darth Vader said wait a minute I’m to badass for Shit show
Lol, did one season and was like "Fuck this shit."
*too
Cpt MacMillan as long as we’re correcting things he didn’t put “this shit show”
Kraemeberry Im gonna be in rogue one and maul be like: I’m gonna be in solo
The best parts of rebels were when they brought back characters from clone wars
Rebels is at its best when it’s not about the rebels and that in itself is a huge problem
Only reason ppl like it and it survived
The best part was when it ended
I have to disagree, it's when you realise it's not a good show and switch to a different channel
And then they killed Gregor. Now he's not my favorite clone that would be Rex (duh) and Domino Squad along with Clone force 99. But Gregor was fucking amazing cuz he acts like I do in video games I play. And I love it. Fuck you Disney.
i really like the episode when Zeb find other Lasat it give us a little bit of Zeb's backstory. I also think The child, The warrior and The fool was a cool idea
I also like the one with him and callus stuck on the planet
HOW TO MAKE THIS SHOW BETTER
•Clone wars animation style
•Kill more people
•Remove lightsaber helicopters (seriously those things are ridiculous)
•Show that the empire is somewhat threatening
•Have Thrawn do something useful
•Where tf is Vader in seasons 3&4
Team Tundra 2 u my friend are a genius
Team Tundra 2 beef up the lightsabers too pls. I know they come from the original but damn they look so pathetic in 3d its horrible
Sonic The Hedgehog I know I like the thicker ones from clone wars
Team Tundra 2 *Remove Ezra and have Kanan be the main protagonist
M10 yeah replace them with someone interesting and not annoying
They missed a really good opportunity to have Boba Fett make a cameo, but nah.
boba fett could have been that grey goblin but nah, they had to go for some grey tiny goblin looking ass
@@eebrohim7001 The "grey tiny goblin" was one of the scariest motherfuckers in the old EU with a complex backstory who was ACTUALLY THREATENING. Then they ruined him and made him into... that.
@@darthrex354 care to share some of his backstory?
Ibrahim Sharrocks how dare you insult rukh like that
darthrex354 not only that but they’re culture revolves around worshiping DARTH VADER and they looked not like grey people with pimples on their foreheads but like dinosaurs crossed with SKELETONS.
I posted this elsewhere, but I'll post it again:
Ahsoka should have stayed dead.
Her ending with Vader was such a great and touching scene at the end of season 2, but it looks like the writers can't bring themselves to let go of the character. Which is ironic, given the main message of that ep.
Look, I don't have any problem with the idea of Ahsoka surviving. If it was done well i'd be ok with it. But i feel like that ep completely undermines the ending of season 2. Whenever i go and rewatch season 2, it isn't going to be emotional at all, knowing that Ahsoka is just going to get pulled into a magic time portal. This just means that there's another Force user running around pre-ANH. Not only that, so Vader just saw someone pull Ahsoka into a portal, and didn't bother to investigate further? Like i alr said, it's super ironic how the message of that ep is that Ezra has to let go of Kanan and accept his death, but the writers cannot leave Ahsoka dead and have to bring her back.
BattleUp Saber honestly though. It was such a cop out to bring her back. Just feels like blatant fan service
BattleUp Saber I've always been torn about things like this. On one hand I'm happy that she's alive since I love her character, on the other hand she was done developing and her death made sense narrative wise
I feel they did this with geonosis. When I heard they got mass genocided I thought holy shit that's actually pretty dark. Fast forward a season later and there's a survivor with the ex machina to save his species. Now the shock and awe is killed
I agree with everything you said...but.
We last saw Ahsoka in Season 2 walking into some kind of building. Did you really think she was dead?
Filoni can't let go of his waifu
Top 10 best parts of Rebels 1-10
1. Maul
2.Ahsoka and darth vader
Thanks for watching
Thrawn and Clones??
@@helenline1790 Thrawn does next to nothing throughout the entire show and clones are just fucking around most of the time
@@helenline1790 Gregor does for a stupid reason. And wolffe gets an off screen death
Totally agree.
Though I'd like to add that Ahsoka should have died there.
I guess I'm one of those guys that dislikes Rebels _and_ the Last Jedi.
Obi-Wan Kenobi they both sucked but i hate tfa more
no you are not
Obi-Wan Kenobi same.
Obi-Wan Kenobi I can tolerate Rebels to an extent, but I still loathe TLJ.
Obi-Wan Kenobi I agree I dislike both
Anyone notice that in Rebels whenever a character talks they just shake their head up and down constantly?
They're all actually really depressing Red vs Blue characters
Anyone who attempts to those motions in real life would break their neck
early 2000's video game animation. Where you couln't make animated mouths so they just move their head.
@@HappyBeezerStudios I mean, Halo did alright with just moving the jaw.
That annoyed me constantly when the show was airing
The worst part is the fact that Clone Wars died for this. Edit: I knew that Clone wars was coming back, but if it wasn’t the very vocal community, it would have come back. Disney didn’t car about, they didn’t want it back. Also S7 is amazing.
Delton Carmony not really.
Thank god it came back to give us a proper conclusion! Haven't you heard, Delton?? :D
@@Vandicoup And they stuck the landing!!!!
@@sivad1025 Wouldn't doubt it! 'Bout to watch the finale myself in an hour, so pumped!! >:D
@@Vandicoup Finale was brilliant!
One thing that really bugged me about the action scenes with Ezra and Kanan is that they would never actually slice the stormtroopers, because I guess that is to "violent". Yet they can deflect lasers back at them and shoot them. Just me?
I actually disagree with you that Ahsoka living ruins Luke being the last jedi. Even back in Legends canon, there was always other jedi that survived Order 66, but Luke was the only one that was able to truly destroy Vader, by saving Anakin. Not even Ahsoka could do that.
Yeah them being alive doesn't ruin it for me as well. Not really sure why it would for anybody, or that he said they were more powerful than luke. Ahsoka is very powerful but Luke has infinite more potential than her. After all, Obi Wan and Yoda lived through nearly the whole galactic civil war and never tried to challenge vader/palp till Luke came along
The amount of old jedi that survived order 66 and the empire is absolutely fucking ridiculous in the old canon. Its one of the really bad parts of the old Canon. It really does destroy Luke. Hell the whole we will make Luke this overpowered godlike character was shitty aswell. Most of legends that goes past Ep6 was really whacky and inconsistent and i am happy with it getting scrapped.
@@mcstotti8691 Yeah because Disney NEVER went over the top and wacky. (-_-) Seriously, both are guilt of that crap.
Also, at least Luke built his power over the years than in just a few days.
And as for the Jedi part, I still stand by what I said. The Jedi that survived was still small and it is a big galaxy. Even then, they were too afraid to fight Vader due to that lie the Emperor spread on how Vader killed 50 Jedi on his own. Plus as I said, Luke was still the only one that could save Anakin. Screw Disney Canon!
@@joegreen3802 I never liked either versions of the post-episode 6 galaxy (I thought legacy was fun tho) but at least the expanded universe allowed Luke and his friends to grow and change. The new canon just had them fail and repeat the mistakes of their predecessors, making them complete failures and their actions pretty much useless in the grand scheme. Also, I don't remember the expanded universe having time travel to save beloved characters from crap writing like this show so yeah, screw the new canon!
Ashoka forsake her Jedi status and chose to only be a badass force user. Thus opening the title for Luke to take.
Literally the only point of this whole debacle was to give Maul a decent send-off.
I agree
I mean there is a reason why clone wars got more seasons than rebels.
Rebels could have been written has a short show. I’m not sure though.
Butters Scotch it also explains why there is a new season of clone wars
Cause George doesn't know when to stop.
Opulent Titan Idiot if it wasn’t successful why is Disney making a spin-off show.
cause there are rules for shows like this from disney to only have 4 seasons
That part about Luke being the remaining Jedi is a perfect point, wish it was about that
If they were defending Alderaan instead of Lothal, the finale would be a lot better.
Maybe, but it would also be meaningless since Alderaan gets destroyed anyway.
No the finale is Alderaan being destroyed. That’d be great.
Mason With the entire Ghost Crew on it
yes.
@@gregorylumban-gaol3889 That's stupid
I used to think I liked Rebels, but on further reflection it turns out I really like Kanan, Hera, and the visual design of Sabine
Ferenc Jenő Erdei Being a gay man, I’m going to have to go with the armor
@@ferencjenoerdei2893 shes like 16 weirdo
Then you are not a true fan
It amazes me how simple people on UA-cam know how to do a better direction for a show than billion dollar companies.
It shouldn't tbh. And here's why.
If you have large enough fan base ,which Star Wars has more than enough,some fan-made things are bound to be better than the official stuff. That doesn't prove anythng about the quality of the official product.
Buddy you’re on a platform where people fucking talk.
It’s easier to see something and say how it can be improved than make something from scratch. I’m not saying all writers are great but writing something new is harder than improving something
Ikr, I’ve met a dozen Star Wars fans that have come up with better series and movie plots than what Disney has actually given us.
Money doesn't always mean creativity.
I don’t agree with the World Between Worlds. It felt like a contrived aspect forced into the universe just to explain how Ahsoka could duel Anakin but survive.
Also her just seemingly vanishing as he slashes at her with his lightsaber probably stuck with him to A New Hope, most likely making him think as he kills Obi-Wan "Why the hell does this keep happening?"
World Between Worlds feels like something which doesn´t belong in SW. The same goes for the witches from Dathomir and the Force gods (Father, Daughter, Son). The only magic/god-like power in SW should be the Force. Once you start to add some generic fantasy elements, it slowly degrades SW into a random, generic fantasy.
None of these ideas and characters are bad. They just don´t fit in Star Wars.
@@Mouse_Metal these ones you describe are all Force users tho, even the witches are described by the wiki as a peculiar kind of dark side wielders. The Force IS the only magic present in Star Wars, it's just that different force-sensitive groups have mastered different forms of it.
I do feel kinda weird about Father, Daughter and Son all dying at the end of the arc tho, because the way they were presented made me think they were immortal allegories for different facets of the Force itself. Guess they were just very powerful but mortal Force users, though not powerful enough to defeat the protagonists...
he neveer said it was good he said it was something
@@Mouse_Metalur acting like u know what star wars is like
Disney are so clueless they are probably banking on using Ezra at some point in the future for another series.
Oh my god, I'll fucking kill myself
When you blame Disney and realise Dave Filoni made most of this shit and people complain about Ezra coincidentally being found and so powerful completely forget that he would of been found for being force sensitive and not randomly by Kanan if the empire didn’t take over since he was born when it got established in a middle time
episode 9??
CT-7567 -connor- the reason people hate this show is because Disney does make it more child friendly
Cannon you sorta ignore if you look at the character arcs and the ideas behind it the lack of violence goes past you
I swear to god if Ezra is in the next Star Wars film.
Edit: thanks for the likes btw.
Id commit quit star wars unless they kill him lmao
Would be fun if we go back to the eu canon after the end. Erza join thrawn to fight a greater enemy
'No-one is ever gone forever...'
I wouldn't worry
Penguin Pictures all abored the hype train
They should've kept the tone of Clone Wars in this show
Luna The Cat they should’ve gone even darker imo. This is the height of the empire after all.
But then disney came and just sayed
“No, must be for kids”
They would have. But Dusney
Why would they do that? it’s the reason they cancelled CW in the first place, Disney didn’t like it was becoming darker and more mature and not frootloops colorful kiddie shit
Ahsoka They should’ve at least had the tone similar to Rogue One
"They could honestly make her force sensitive"
WELP.
Clone Wars Season 7 just came out and everything that was said in this video is even more true now.
Is that
Is that a bojack reference
Season 7 was ruined by this show, there where zero stakes regarding Maul, Rex and Ahsoka, cause I already knew they lived in FREAKING REBELS
@@Br-kc2jy I binged the clone Wars before I went to see rebels so I didn't know that but I understand the sentiment
CW s7 was a big letdown. Thank god rebels was there before that
"people where dying like it was going out of style" this is the best one sentence description ever
Erza has so little personality that on his wiki page it just giving a biography under personality rather than actually describing him
Super Froggy and Bronx Gaming awww you’re mad
Super Froggy and Bronx Gaming why you so butt hurt dude? 😂😂😂
@@thegreatsalmon137 Wow... When you can only give a 5 word comeback... Amazing.... Truly amazing....
Super Froggy and Bronx Gaming are you like 6 years old or something lol, calm down
4:30 clone wars at this point has the capability to be photorealistic. They had to tone it back to look cartoony.
The clone wars was ahead of its time
remember when darth maul fought palpatine?
i ‘member
God, memberberries kill me.
those fucking memberberries man lmao
Pepridge Farms Remembers!
@@R3GARnator but Pepperidge farms ain't gonna keep it's mouth shut.
Remember when Maul beheaded children then Savage imailed Adi Gallia with his horns then beheaded Pre Vizla and then impaled Satine in front of Obi-Wan? Man, that show got dark.
Short Answer: No
Long Answer: Hell no
Rainmaker23 I think the long answer should be hell no
It should've been like this:
Short answer: No
Long answer: Noooooooooooooooooooo
Short answer: No
Long answer: Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Electric Boxers zero punctuation
Vader's answer: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!.......
Who else is watching this after The New Episodes of Ahsoka?
Seriously. My friends tell me Rebels is good constantly, everytime I tell them I don't care, they think I hate Star Wars. I'm glad there is someone that doesn't like Rebels as much as I did when I decided one day, I wanted to marathon the series with my friends to give it a chance...only to be bored and disgusted by how horrible and lazy this show was for the surprisingly same reason that Marcus has, I had too!
And then when I see characters from Rebels...my dad... who hates all of the Cartoons...I finally can agree with him with he sees who these characters are and how horrendous they are.
I watched it, Ezra and Thrawn literally just switch places with Ahsoka and Sabine
Darth could have killed Ahsoka. Add weight to Anakin's arc leaving only Obi Wan as the last bastion of his Jedi self before Luke's intervention
David Silva I mean Vader thinks that he killed ahsoka right? If I recall correctly he doesn’t see her being saved by Ezra so he must think that he killed her and that’s why he never bothered to keep looking for her
@@jqme More than the thought Is to preserve Luke and Leia as the Only Hope of the Galaxy
Really? Killing just one more person would FINALLY have added weight to Anakin's arc?
Michel De Bruyn He didn’t say that, and it would definitely be the most developed relationship anakin had, comparable to obi-wan at least..
@@jqme lmao during his fight with Obi wan he must have thought to himself "why everyone from my past life just disappears when i strike them down"
Resistance is gonna be worse
At Least With Resistance there is no doubt it is a kids show
Er yeah Resistance glad I skipped it
Christian Langford agreed, the good thing about it though is that the creators accept it is only for kids instead of trying to rope in adults like in Rebels
it's a kids show no doubt. it ruined phasma and provided almost no context on the resistance/first order conflict. it had major plot shifts as well. we also got this dude flying a weird red (sorry for the pun) tie-brid between fighter and interceptor .
if I wanted to make it better I would end the next season with rebel cells and imperial remnant in the far outer rim teaming up against the first order
imagine an at te squad facing an at m6 or even an at act against a first order at at
also it is my firm belief that in resistance AND epidode 9 that the resistance should have heavily modded at rts
SPOILER ALERT
in battlefront 2 they explain how Poe got the dreadnought plans and that is a really good tie in
and in one episode they show.... mining too make blasters, companies moving to outer rim to help first order
now this was helpfull because I think kuyat driveyards moved into the outer rim to make/upgrade walkers
I think the first order should have at ap squads to make up for at m6 deployment in more confined areas
one more thing is that they should have an episode of it be dedicated to finding old rebel blueprints so they can make the rz2 a wing
thank you ever so much if you read till the end
and reply your thoughts on my opinions just take it easy i belive that Disney still has at most a 10% chance of fixing their star wars mistakes
once again thank you for your time
Logey5 Gaming you say that as if Phasma was a good character to begin with
Rebels was a complete waste of Thrawn and I hope that this isn't the last we've seen of him. I WANT MY THRAWN MOVIE DISNEY AND I WANT IT SOONISH.
the books are great but Thrawn in the show wasn't the worst, stop being a crybitch
Razzy1312 I don’t think it was a waste of thrawn, at least Disney knew he was an actual character. Yes we need a thrawn movie lol
You know, he might not be dead, as Ezra was also warped, and well obviously he isn’t dead. And with the First Order being founded largely by former Imperial officers and aristocracy, maybe Thrawn returns in 9, as a secondary villain?
@@nexor7809 He wasn't the worst by far, but it's still annoying that he gets beaten by a child and a buncha force whales.
@@cptTK421 Feloni confirmed that both Ezra and Thrawn are alive.
The only thing in the show that I could actually see making the audience have an interest in it is probably Maul and Ahsoka
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Yup
They rendezvoused on the fuel depot because nobody, not even THRAWN, thought that Governor Pryce would shoot the fuel.
Nah... I am pretty sure Thrawn would expect that
The time travel crap pissed me off because it was a cop out to bring Ahsoka back. Her death in season 2 was a perfect end to her character arc that began in Clone Wars.
I agree with everything you said though (except the comparison to Phantom Menace) . Kinda makes me question if Dave Filoni really is a creative genius without Lucas to supervise him...
lol she never died it was just made to look like that even without the time ep i know Ahsoka didn't die then , Ankin and Ahsoka are linked to their deaths meaning they die at same time they are blood brother and sister (The Ones) from Clone Wars.
SniperSd Sid what?
never died
What do you mean her death is season 2? you see her later in the episode walking into a cave.
@@Revilod No, but she only survived because Ezra pulled her out through the time travel portal. I don't like this at all. Also, the terrible sequel trilogy might use this as their final resort in Episode 9. Bleh :(
7:09 That laugh killed me! XD
Imperial Officer: “Hey Thrawn, we have the chance to take the rebels out right now! Let’s do it”
Thrawn: “No........ let them go, because of....... *strokes chin..... strategy.....”
So true
Asking if they consider Rebels Thrawn a smart character is the fastest way to figure one's intelligence.
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the only time where thrawn himself is outsmarted by them is when alladin pulls the space whales out his ass, which thrawn had no way of knowing about. The rest of the time it's his underlings fucking up
@@adudeontheinternet8246 Thing is:
-Admiral Thrawn, it's space whales! They are attackig us!
-Why don't you try shooting them?
-Oh, sure.
A few minutes later the Star Destroyers have killed all the space whales.
-Sorry sir. I panicked for a while.
-Captain, they were space whales. Worst thing they could do was to headbutt our ships. What do you think is harder? An animal or a mile long armored warhip?
My point is, this whole situation was beyond retarded. It had the same logic as the original 1984 Transformers catroon where the Decepticons were defeated by some dinosaurs. Not Dinobots. Normal dinosaurs.
@@adudeontheinternet8246 thrawn is only one part of the flawed rebels plot, they were underfunded, outmanned, outgunned, outnumbered rebels that sat right under the nose of imperials for four entire seasons, which I'm guessing is canonically over the course of a year or two? ones that survived encounters with Darth Vader and 4 different inquisitors which are trained to hunt jedi? And they impersonated imperial personnel how many times without getting caught? I know there was a reason for getting away every time but it just makes the empire seem weak and incompetent
Don't worry, we'll be getting a Star Wars: The Clone Wars S8 ❤🔥
Jayvee Valenzuela *Season 7
Jayvee Valenzuela season 7 actually
it suck like show series in general
@@kyotheman69 Dude, fuck off. You have an anime profile picture, so your opinion is invalid
I wish instead of the whales coming out, I wish the remainder of the CIS fleet attacked the empire.
(Reason why, is an Droid general survived in season 3)
The Locs Ewok that eould have been awsome
The Locs Ewok I knew I wasn't the only one that expected that
I was fucking expecting that. What was the point on foreshadowing when Kalani said he will find the rest of CIS?
FOR THE CONFEDERACY
As a russian, I never associated myself with CIS :D
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Mine too!
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RandoGrunt AND MY AXE!
AND MY 3 YEAR OLD AXE SPRAY!
My main regret is I was sad that Kalani didn’t come back with a small rebuilt Separatist fleet at the end to save the day.