Helldivers 2 Steam Gamers Are Furious About PSN News

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  • Опубліковано 9 лип 2024
  • The latest in the Helldivers 2 PSN link drama is that a PlayStation Helldivers 2 PSN account will be required for anyone playing on the steam platform. This was originally listed on the steam page as a requiremend, but the Helldivers 2 Steam PSN link is now going to be enforced. This PlayStation news has brought the ire of gamers everywhere.
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  • @DestinL
    @DestinL  2 місяці тому +9

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    • @chickenwings6172
      @chickenwings6172 2 місяці тому +3

      This sounds like a Sony thing not a steam thing. This is stupid af, most people do not have or want a PSN account. Companies are wussies and can't tell Sony NO first shift up with their game and the censorship and now this. Wait how does Sony have a Say they do not own the game or the company that made it.

    • @teddyholiday8038
      @teddyholiday8038 2 місяці тому +4

      Over 140k negative reviews since this was announced. Mass refunds

    • @Roach22
      @Roach22 2 місяці тому +1

      Absolutely! People paid for the game and now with Sony moving to mandate something after people have provided their money is disgraceful and Sony should be held accountable for this anti-consumer move. I know some people have said that the requirement to link a PSN account was there initially upon booting the game before it was removed. But this only showed up "after" people had already paid their money. Plus there are those that bought the game after the requirement was removed and in countries where you can't get a PSN account.

    • @Roach22
      @Roach22 2 місяці тому

      Sony / Arrowhead still have a lot of work to do to address some of the toxic players out there and general bugs. The majority of players are great, but there are some that will kick you out of a game just before the Extraction point at the end of a mission, which can take up to 35-40mins or so. This means you receive none of the XP, samples etc. after 35-40mins of supporting them. It can be one of the most frustrating elements of the game because there's no way to address this issue or report it through the in-game reporting system. So much for a mandatory PSN account being there to protect players. As for bugs, the PS5 version of the game at least can still crash during extraction at the end of missions multiple times in a day.

    • @teddyholiday8038
      @teddyholiday8038 2 місяці тому

      @@Roach22 I have 120 hours played and I’ve only ever seen trolls get kicked

  • @ProtossHyrdalisk
    @ProtossHyrdalisk 2 місяці тому +53

    "Safety features" pretty much how you know its BS in any case.

    • @daviddesrosiers1946
      @daviddesrosiers1946 2 місяці тому +8

      Insert "think of the children" meme here.

    • @alekjanowski9847
      @alekjanowski9847 2 місяці тому

      @@daviddesrosiers1946 Yeah! Off to the coal mines with them! (Cookie for you if you get the reference!)

    • @TaranTatsuuchi
      @TaranTatsuuchi 2 місяці тому

      _Safety and Security!_

    • @Bunnymorphosis
      @Bunnymorphosis 2 місяці тому +1

      Sony: "safety features"
      Also sony: 7 confirmed data breaches

    • @vullord666
      @vullord666 2 місяці тому

      Sony really proving they're the Apple of gaming with that line 😂

  • @yusufbakhtiar632
    @yusufbakhtiar632 2 місяці тому +61

    100000 down votes is crazy

    • @DestinL
      @DestinL  2 місяці тому +13

      100% agree.

    • @MrBeefTot187
      @MrBeefTot187 2 місяці тому +10

      Ponies downvote people calling out Sonys bad practices so why are you shocked lol

    • @yusufbakhtiar632
      @yusufbakhtiar632 2 місяці тому +9

      @@MrBeefTot187 i love it when the gaming community does things like this

    • @daviddesrosiers1946
      @daviddesrosiers1946 2 місяці тому +4

      It's almost one ten thousandth as crazy as this move by Sony.

    • @bububibi6315
      @bububibi6315 2 місяці тому +1

      130

  • @albertogarrido6411
    @albertogarrido6411 2 місяці тому +40

    They have changed the terms of use months after the release. And what's more they sold the game to people who live in a Country without the possibility of creating a PSN account because the service doesn't exist

    • @callumward7503
      @callumward7503 2 місяці тому +3

      Sue Sony for breach of
      Consumer protection law
      Misrepresentation
      Breach of conduct
      And also International Trade Regulations (According to your country)

    • @jugulator95
      @jugulator95 2 місяці тому +1

      It always said a psn was required on the steam page

    • @christonchev9762
      @christonchev9762 2 місяці тому

      well what they can do as most are suggesting is to allow those users who live in those countrys not to be req to sign into PSN but then this will make a controversy cause why would i give my personall data to PS and that guy not give it?

    • @JW-fm2cy
      @JW-fm2cy 2 місяці тому +2

      @@jugulator95 The page before said a psn account was optional, but then sony changed the EULA three months later. That's the bigger issue.

    • @stretch493
      @stretch493 2 місяці тому

      They haven't changed anything beyond enforcing the PSN requirement.....it stated PSN was required MONTHS before the the game even came out....and the steam page for hd2 never removed the PSN requirement advisory...

  • @JessFromMead
    @JessFromMead 2 місяці тому +68

    Sony finally gets a game that people play more than once and the first thing they do is fuck over everyone on PC

    • @herbertjimenez9819
      @herbertjimenez9819 2 місяці тому +4

      Master race baby 😎

    • @mikeh4818
      @mikeh4818 2 місяці тому

      GTFO, it takes 2 min to create an account

    • @milimachathestrange
      @milimachathestrange 2 місяці тому +1

      How does this fuck "everyone" on PC. I get people who live in countries that can't get PSN but outside of that how?

    • @Nobleheart111
      @Nobleheart111 2 місяці тому +6

      Access to all your data and subjecting yourself to any and all arbitrary bans.

    • @mikeh4818
      @mikeh4818 2 місяці тому

      @@Nobleheart111 arbitrary bans lol. As if they'll do it for any odd reason. If any platform needs banning mechanisms it's PC. Cheaters everywhere

  • @mordecaiarcade
    @mordecaiarcade 2 місяці тому +21

    That's ironic with the fact that helldivers 1 doesn't require a PSN.

    • @rmngrnk6752
      @rmngrnk6752 2 місяці тому

      same as Horizon Zero Down

    • @carolinagamer2874
      @carolinagamer2874 2 місяці тому

      ​@@rmngrnk6752 I think you need a PSN for Horizon Forbidden West just for the extra dlc content? I might be wrong.

    • @urazz7739
      @urazz7739 2 місяці тому

      @@rmngrnk6752 None of Sony's games on PC require it.

  • @MrBeefTot187
    @MrBeefTot187 2 місяці тому +31

    Psn gets hacked and data is sold yearly so yea it’s a huge deal id be mad too

    • @dribrom
      @dribrom 2 місяці тому +3

      Everyone gets hacked sooner or later.

    • @severinevans346
      @severinevans346 2 місяці тому +21

      ​@@dribrom Nobody has been hacked as much or as deeply as PlayStation has in the big 3 so don't act like it's an equivalency it's not.

    • @ravee-eh4dd
      @ravee-eh4dd 2 місяці тому +6

      I still remember the 2006 data breach

    • @alekjanowski9847
      @alekjanowski9847 2 місяці тому +6

      @@ravee-eh4dd Ive lost over 2,5k Zł in games on 2014 security fuckup... Yeah #GETCUCKEDSONY

    • @dribrom
      @dribrom 2 місяці тому

      @@severinevans346 Mmh, hmm, and Microsoft is not notorious for having weak security system. 🙄

  • @CarurossTheSecond218
    @CarurossTheSecond218 2 місяці тому +16

    Already uninstalled. I have a zero tolerance DRM policy.

    • @carolinagamer2874
      @carolinagamer2874 2 місяці тому +4

      Same here.
      I need more space anyways. It was fun while it lasted 😢

    • @ryanb3908
      @ryanb3908 2 місяці тому +1

      Helldivers always had DRM.

    • @urazz7739
      @urazz7739 2 місяці тому

      I hope you got Gameguard removed as well. It doesn't get uninstalled with Helldivers if I recall so it can be a pain in the butt to get off your system.

  • @raymondnieves3710
    @raymondnieves3710 2 місяці тому +128

    Doesn’t the PlayStation Network gets HACKED every other day? For safety 😂

    • @DevinPosey20
      @DevinPosey20 2 місяці тому +2

      No

    • @mace6402
      @mace6402 2 місяці тому +21

      Yep, but no worries getting your credit card details stolen is not a big deal...lol

    • @kjohansen4088
      @kjohansen4088 2 місяці тому +3

      Why don’t you complain about logging into Microsoft and Ubisoft and gog and every other website required to play their games? Such a weird hill to die on.

    • @mariusmaritz5098
      @mariusmaritz5098 2 місяці тому +2

      Yep loads of time in my life were had weeks with ps4 and ps5 now the psn was hacked or offline problems. So this is Bull, I got HD2 on pc , I don't use ps+ reason I don't want pay for multiplayer and bisede why ise GP rather. PC players don't need this crap or be loyal to PS, PC players always beem boundries free.

    • @kjohansen4088
      @kjohansen4088 2 місяці тому

      @@mariusmaritz5098 English?

  • @GamingTalk-cl7xj
    @GamingTalk-cl7xj 2 місяці тому +15

    Safety features, we talking about PSN here right?

  • @HskHeroReborn
    @HskHeroReborn 2 місяці тому +9

    There will be a class action lawsuit suit if they don't backdown

    • @Nobleheart111
      @Nobleheart111 2 місяці тому

      Hopefully! Sony needs to lose Millions over this. It’s the only way lessons can be taught.

  • @ProtossHyrdalisk
    @ProtossHyrdalisk 2 місяці тому +9

    I miss games that just let users run their own servers or do peer to peer. We don't really need companies as the in between for servers tbh.

  • @yodelingllamas1145
    @yodelingllamas1145 2 місяці тому +9

    Whats the point of signing terms of service if they change it later?

    • @leftypistolero5983
      @leftypistolero5983 2 місяці тому

      It's rights forfeiture. You have to do it willfully.

  • @ryhanon7
    @ryhanon7 2 місяці тому +5

    "The PSN account plays a critical role in protecting users" - uh... no. The only role it plays is boosting Sony's PSN monthly active user count. That's it. That's all.

  • @WildBill0
    @WildBill0 2 місяці тому +9

    I wouldn't give Sony my personal and financial details either.

    • @ryanb3908
      @ryanb3908 2 місяці тому

      Right, especially after last place Sony was already found guilty of stealing people's info.

  • @golddragongaming1
    @golddragongaming1 2 місяці тому +6

    I don't think the biggest issue is even that they suddenly require a PSN account. It is that they sold the game in some regions where you *cannot* get a PSN account, such as China. So no matter what those people can no longer play the game at all. They have no option. I hope Valve does what they done with Cyberpunk 2077 when it was a broken mess and allows refunds for Helldivers 2 at any point, at least for the people in those regions.

  • @SeekObserveUnderstand
    @SeekObserveUnderstand 2 місяці тому +24

    Problem is Sony has security issues. No one wants to give there personal info to someone who is unwilling to invest in such security.

    • @rmngrnk6752
      @rmngrnk6752 2 місяці тому +1

      problem is SONY's greeding and lying

    • @utsavpradhan2754
      @utsavpradhan2754 2 місяці тому

      Yup 50 million ps5 user and 130 million PS4 users, yup nobody made an account tho 😂

    • @SeekObserveUnderstand
      @SeekObserveUnderstand 2 місяці тому

      @@utsavpradhan2754 Let me clarify. Nobody conscientiously looking into the situation after the aftermath of hacked accounts and information would be anxious to give Sony such personal data. Many people assume larger corporations are safe in this regard without a second thought. But anyone keeping up with the news would be cautious. Plus, PC/mobile gamers are a different breed. They love there options and freedom. They like their liberty, or the ability to choose what they want sign up for. Consoles are very limited in this regard. No one should expect a PC/mobile gamer to think like a console gamer, or vice versa. The things a console owner may take for granted because of a convenience factor, a PC/mobile gamer might abhor because of a choice factor. And just a little secret: the PC/mobile market dwarfs the console market. Console growth is stagnant. And without growth in a capitalistic society, a publicly-traded company will die. So it behooves Sony to play nice, especially in a domain where Microsoft has the advantage.

    • @ryanb3908
      @ryanb3908 2 місяці тому

      @@utsavpradhan2754 Last place Sony has nothing to do with PC and nobody on PC wants anything to do with a shady company like last place Sony stealing info and compromising the security of your PC.

  • @nlsmason9466
    @nlsmason9466 2 місяці тому +9

    Wow!! Sony literally can't get out of their own way!! They stay trippin over themselves and for stupid reasons at that!!!

    • @golddragongaming1
      @golddragongaming1 2 місяці тому +1

      Indeed. I have always preferred PlayStation over other consoles due to the games. But these days they are pissing me off more than during the arrogant days of early PS3. At least they started their course correction before now. But it is almost 4 years into the generation and I see no signs yet of them course correcting. It is only getting worse.
      Makes me glad to be PC focused now instead. *If* I ever get a console again it will be either the Switch successor, Xbox or both. I am very reluctant to get a PS5 unless Sony changes. Good games are not worth it if the company makes it a hassle to play them. They seem to be moving away from making the type of games I want anyway and relying on third parties for them, if at all.

  • @sakib9102
    @sakib9102 2 місяці тому +12

    8:20 " hope we can make the game experience better instead " how am i supposed to experience this " better game experience " if i cant even play the game that i bought anymore since PSN does not support my country.

    • @ninetendopesaitama2107
      @ninetendopesaitama2107 2 місяці тому +5

      I see another law suit against Fony. The arrogance of them is their downfall. Grab popcorn. ☮️

    • @Xyler94
      @Xyler94 2 місяці тому +2

      At least it seems Steam might be offering refunds to people affected like yourself.

    • @sickshotgaming9647
      @sickshotgaming9647 2 місяці тому

      You can play without a log in in those regions. They won't take the game away from you

  • @skiff831
    @skiff831 2 місяці тому +6

    We will fight for democracy, in-game and out-game!

  • @Xyler94
    @Xyler94 2 місяці тому +16

    The issue is, there was nowhere in the game itself that mentioned it was a requirement. And on PlayStation's own sites, it said "PSN is optional for games".
    Now, people who purchased the game in places where PSN isn't available, because that does exist.
    And besides... there was good will around not needing the account. You'd think for 3 months of good will, they'd be like "Hey.. maybe we should relax that, the community would like that". But nope, Sony doesn't know how to respect their consumers. So if Sony wants to force me into things, I will tell them to screw off.
    Edit: And Sony better not even think about forcing PS+ to play Helldivers. That will be the death of the game on PC.

    • @chadachee3446
      @chadachee3446 2 місяці тому +4

      Game already dying right before our eyes

    • @carolinagamer2874
      @carolinagamer2874 2 місяці тому

      It's already dying. Sony needs to reverse this.
      I'm not gonna support PlayStation for taking Helldivers II away from players that don't have access to a PSN account.

  • @SKIBOOSH1
    @SKIBOOSH1 2 місяці тому +6

    Remember 2018 sony excuse for not allowing crossplay, lets PROTECT the children🤔
    then documents shown Sony charging developers for crossplay to support & PROTECT psn revenue!!💰💰💰
    That word is now becoming there favourite tune......

    • @silveraustinluna
      @silveraustinluna 2 місяці тому

      Late comment but it's "their", not "there".

  • @infernas
    @infernas 2 місяці тому +3

    That dude Spitz is a joke of a "community manager." Being in that position requires BASIC customer service and empathy, but instead they're mocking the players who were making valid criticisms. Maybe quit a job that requires customer interaction if you hate talking to people so much?

  • @sevhoss
    @sevhoss 2 місяці тому +16

    Next thing you know we’re gunna need PS+ on top of this

  • @daviddesrosiers1946
    @daviddesrosiers1946 2 місяці тому +11

    Hard pass. I will not be subjugated to their console clown show BS. Thankfully, a huge flashing warning sign is on this game on Steam now.

    • @mikeh4818
      @mikeh4818 2 місяці тому

      You must not sign into your Microsoft through steam either, right?

    • @carolinagamer2874
      @carolinagamer2874 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@mikeh4818 That's not the point. Every PC owner has a Microsoft account that uses Windows. Including countries where there are no PSN accounts.
      So, for those countries with no PSN account accessibility they will not be able to play Helldivers II even though they were playing it previously. And a PSN account was obviously not needed and was optional.

    • @mikeh4818
      @mikeh4818 2 місяці тому

      @@carolinagamer2874 Arrowhead stated today that people in countries without PSN will still be able to play. And
      Not every PC has windows, the vast majority, yes. It's the same concept though. You have to link your account with steam.
      Also, PSN doesn't ask for your Credit Card nor your address. You could literally lie about your actual name and you would be fine. PC people just being whiney bitches. Pretty much every major publisher does this

    • @ryanb3908
      @ryanb3908 2 місяці тому

      @@mikeh4818 Yes a secure network with an actual refund policy unlike Sony. 🤦🏻

  • @gamingcomputers7485
    @gamingcomputers7485 2 місяці тому +1

    they thought we don't see or remember it so they changed it yet they have massively fail to do this corporations are the absolute scum of the earth.

  • @Carl-gj4ed
    @Carl-gj4ed 2 місяці тому +2

    Main difference between MS and EA is that they still allow you to access the game. If they do require it, it's for free to play games. This is different. People bought the game at full price and will no longer be able to access it because they don't want to create a PSN account or they simply can't create one in the country they are in.
    Sony seems to be stepping on it's feet lately and facepllanting. They had a good thing going with HellDivers 2. This move is just moronic.

  • @ThousandairesClub
    @ThousandairesClub 2 місяці тому +3

    *Greed just keeps ruining everything we love, it never fails* 😍

  • @robertwoods5169
    @robertwoods5169 2 місяці тому +2

    Funny how Sony released the game under legal documentation that it would be optional to have a psn account and, as a result, detailed the game on steam in regions they were fully aware they did not operate in. After a few months, when the money was made, it was mandated to have a psn account. I smell an international lawsuit.

  • @kuricosmos
    @kuricosmos 2 місяці тому +1

    My concern is strictly for regions who can't access PSN. Otherwise, requiring login to PSN on a PlayStation game seems no brainer to me. Minecraft does use your Microsoft account as do other games. Even BG3 has its own account too.

  • @jessep5280
    @jessep5280 2 місяці тому +3

    With *both* Sony *AND* PlayStation's history of security breaches, why would they ever use _security_ as the motivating factor for signing up?
    I will _never_ trust Sony or Playstation with my private information. It's the main reason I haven't owned a PlayStation console since the PS2.
    I love that PlayStation is now being forced to deal with a segment of gamers who aren't interested in letting them do whatever they want to do.

    • @ryanb3908
      @ryanb3908 2 місяці тому +1

      Also their history of stealing people's info.

  • @forevercursedlucifer113
    @forevercursedlucifer113 2 місяці тому

    I think the issue is some locations apparently need the person to buy an actual PlayStation Five to make an account. Then they can play on computer.

  • @WaynesWorldUnlimited
    @WaynesWorldUnlimited 2 місяці тому +2

    I spent the last nine years on the PS4 and considering the amount of times that got hacked… and having a PS5 for Christmas which I chose not to accept and give it to my niece. Why would you honestly have a trust Sony? I deleted my PSN. I would never return to Sony. I’ll stick with PC and Xbox not saying they’re perfect, but they’re a lot more reliable than Sony.

  • @LordRabbit06
    @LordRabbit06 2 місяці тому +5

    That game is an Epic Fail now….

  • @mxxicvnphxnk
    @mxxicvnphxnk 2 місяці тому +6

    You blew it, you had it all and you blew it lol.
    But jokes aside this is not good whatsoever especially when you realize that sony has been hacked more than you can count.

  • @WaynesWorldUnlimited
    @WaynesWorldUnlimited 2 місяці тому +4

    Here’s a question is Hell diver still coming to Xbox? Because if you still need a PSN account, you can forget it from me.

    • @CrashBashL
      @CrashBashL 2 місяці тому

      A Microsoft account is needed to play Sea of Thieves on PlayStation...soooo...yeah.

    • @Le_Mon9
      @Le_Mon9 2 місяці тому

      Definitely won't come. You know how ass Sony is about their exclusivity.

  • @blackbeardddd
    @blackbeardddd 2 місяці тому +2

    Storm in tea cup. Steam concurrent numbers are the same. Daniel Ahmed said most of the review bombing came from people who didn't buy the game on steam. Stolen keys.
    You'll all be signing in the xboxs network on playstation soon enough.
    Hard news Destin

    • @TheBean87
      @TheBean87 2 місяці тому +1

      You mean the steam numbers that dropped 80% are still the same… nope they are down even farther.

  • @4play49
    @4play49 2 місяці тому +4

    So are ppl being charged for signing up for PSN that play on PC

    • @milimachathestrange
      @milimachathestrange 2 місяці тому +2

      No one is being charged anything some people complaining are absolutely insane but a lot of the complaints about not having PSN in their countries are valid

    • @carolinagamer2874
      @carolinagamer2874 2 місяці тому +2

      There's no charge for making a PSN account. There are countries that have no access to a PSN account and play Helldivers II since launch.

  • @natejoe9924
    @natejoe9924 2 місяці тому +2

    Somebody brought me to the light I knew about the hacks but I wasn't thinking about that and this time he is 100% right and I'm completely wrong now I do agree with people not being forced to sign up for PSN

    • @ryanb3908
      @ryanb3908 2 місяці тому

      Look up the rootware scandal Sony was found guilty of and you will understand why people want nothing to do with Sony on PC.

  • @BeersYourFriend
    @BeersYourFriend 2 місяці тому

    My problem over this whole Helldivers 2 situation is the fact that Sony knew this day would come, and they would be kicking out players all over the world, ever since launch. How they are able to sell a game to a country who is not able to access PSN doesn't make a lick of sense to me. Steam needs to have a talk with these publishers. Steam knew this would happen too. These companies aren't stupid, and knew exactly what they were doing, and knew people were going to be upset, while also not caring about the backlash. They want gamers to cry themselves to sleep, and this whole thing will blow over. It sucks. In my opinion, I think that if you sell a video game on Steam, and your game is listed that requires an additional account, locked to certain countries, then the only customers who live in a region where an account is accessible, should be shown the game as purchasable. If you do not live in an area where a game requires an account that is unassible, then Steam should block the game from being purchased. I'd even go a step further, and ban the game from even being seen in countries where there is no possible way for the purchaser to play the game. Steam isn't stupid either, and I think they were ready to issue refunds the day the game launched. This needs to stop. Dont sell a game in another country that they know is going to be pulled. Even the devs knew this would be refund day. Don't feel bad for nobody in this industry, because tactics that are used are figured out way in advance. Did Sony, Arrowhead, and Steam think it would be this bad, with the ratings tanking this much, probably not. Which is a good sign, and is a wakeup call, to a degree... They were probably hoping the steam rating would drop to 75%-80%, and then increase back to 90% over time. Not down to 50%. But, this time customers who purchased the game spoke up, and deservingly so. I think it's fantastic, and that more people should speak up. Sony's stocks are going to tank and it's all their fault. They want more control and they got a massive straight karate kick in the balls, when they were expecting just a normal kick to the balls. Regardless, this whole thing is a non issue for Sony. Sony, are cold blooded guys. If the game tanks, it ain't no big deal to them. It's crazy to say this, but I'd go so far as to say that sometimes these companies enjoy the negative news. It's disgusting, but I'll bet many at Sony think its funny seeing people explode over a video game. Why? Because they have many other games in the works, that will make up for the loses. The greed, the tactics used for sales, while wanting more control, is beyond our imagination. They plan this stuff out for years in advance, and they even plan out game releases they know will flop, and allocating the right resources accordingly, to still profit. Game companies can't lose, because they've got many other games in the oven, that they know will make up for previous loses. Vote with your wallets guys! You don't need to play every game you see, or need to care about any game you see. Save your money! Wait for only good titles. Disregard game reviews, and watch a game on Twitch. Most importantly, be patient. You do not need to buy a game on day 1. Wait for sales. I'm sure you've all got a backlog of games you haven't even played yet, so play them. The less people buy games, the high quality of games we'll eventually get. It takes time. Cheers yall!

  • @matsta177
    @matsta177 2 місяці тому +4

    This breaches consumer law and has breached the terms of service I agreed to. I will be contacting my local ombudsman here in Australia. We have zero tolerance here.

  • @robertrice2141
    @robertrice2141 2 місяці тому +2

    This is Sony getting ready for day and date in 2025.

  • @helghastarmy7688
    @helghastarmy7688 2 місяці тому

    The only people mad are the PC hackers.

  • @ryanpotter4117
    @ryanpotter4117 2 місяці тому

    Hey Dustin, do you think that this could maybe be a first step towards the game coming to Xbox and maybe the fan out cry may can Xbox crossover

  • @christonchev9762
    @christonchev9762 2 місяці тому +3

    nah i did play a while ago Sea of Thieves and all i had to do is install the game,it did not forced me to sign to anything else

    • @bobhawkins9598
      @bobhawkins9598 2 місяці тому

      Well it does on PS just like that other shite grounded you need a shitbox account

    • @ryanb3908
      @ryanb3908 2 місяці тому

      ​@@bobhawkins9598Everyone on PC already has a MS account for Windows. Issue is nobody wants anything to do with Sony on PC when they have no security or refund policy and have been found guilty of stealing info already. 👶🏻👣👍

    • @CrashBashL
      @CrashBashL 2 місяці тому

      Why are you lying? You need a Microsoft account to play Sea of Thieves.
      And you also need a Microsoft account to play Sea of Thieves on PlayStation.
      So....yeah.

    • @carolinagamer2874
      @carolinagamer2874 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@bobhawkins9598 You were told at launch before you bought it that you need a Microsoft account or Xbox account for those Xbox games lol.
      Microsoft didn't let people buy it then make it mandatory or be banned months later.
      The major issue here is there are people who played Helldivers II since launch that don't have access to a PSN account. So now they can't play a game they bought after the 30th.
      It was optional and now it's not. Sony lied and should be held accountable.

    • @ryanb3908
      @ryanb3908 2 місяці тому +1

      @@CrashBashL Everyone on PC already has a MS account for Windows. Difference is nobody on PC wants anything to do with a shady company like Sony stealing data.

  • @pietertclark
    @pietertclark 2 місяці тому +1

    So what do we do in turn?... Outside of leaving a bad review is there something we can do to voice our frustration and possibly make an impact?

    • @Lenariet
      @Lenariet 2 місяці тому

      Some loudmouthed, pretentious people are yelling "cLaSs AcTiOn LaWsUiT iNcOmInG!!!!11!1". They super love doing that whenever some new drama shit hits the fan. But I never see anyone actually follow through with that. I bet Sony has enough lawyers to know what they're doing. So I guess those very vocal kiddos will continue screaming into the void with no action ever being taken.

    • @carolinagamer2874
      @carolinagamer2874 2 місяці тому +1

      Stop playing Helldivers II and uninstall it. When the player count tanks then there will be less revenue coming for micro transactions.

  • @fajarn7052
    @fajarn7052 2 місяці тому +1

    Its bullshit, for the simple fact that they allow Steam players from regions with no access to PSN to purchase the game. They even retcon their stance about PSN account requirement for PC game. If it was going to be like this from the start, the Steam Releases should also be restricted according PSN coverage.
    Even the OG Helldivers 1 didn't require this. This is them salivating at the PSN account number that could be added for their fiscal report.

  • @ramblingentertained
    @ramblingentertained 2 місяці тому +1

    The community managers are in support with us. They are just as frustrated as we are.

  • @MrEvev1872000
    @MrEvev1872000 2 місяці тому +5

    Just uninstall the game request refund

    • @carolinagamer2874
      @carolinagamer2874 2 місяці тому

      It doesn't work that easily. Steam terms say you cannot have over 2 hours of play time.

    • @TheBean87
      @TheBean87 2 місяці тому

      Can’t request a refund now, Sony knew what they were doing.

    • @matsta177
      @matsta177 2 місяці тому +1

      Game breached terms of service it also breaches consumer law in my country. I will request a refund and be contacting my local ombudsman. Australia does not tolerate this stuff. Zero tolerance

  • @verestamas3920
    @verestamas3920 2 місяці тому

    I will not create an account with sony for this reason. I bought the game yesterday. This will be a refound.. "Smart" business policy HD2 team..

  • @Smiley_1026
    @Smiley_1026 2 місяці тому

    The only problem I have with the whole thing is the folks not being able to make a psn account in certain regions. If they can allow them to continue playing without that than cool. I get folks don’t want to make a psn account but feel like a lot of games do that at this point. Ghost of Tsushima will be next on pc for legends mode being required.

    • @alekjanowski9847
      @alekjanowski9847 2 місяці тому

      Yeah, but other companies ain't getting robbed almost YEARLY unlike Sony... I've lost over 2.5K zł on games due to 2014 security fuckup!

    • @Smiley_1026
      @Smiley_1026 2 місяці тому

      @@alekjanowski9847 I get that and it’s unfortunate but your buying a game off steam and using a psn account that’s it. Nobody doesn’t need to interact PlayStation at all. Like I said this isn’t gonna be the first time there doing it cuz there doing it with ghost of Tsushima pc legends mode. Personally I wish all companies didn’t do this but it is what it is.

  • @GamePass_GameOn
    @GamePass_GameOn 2 місяці тому

    This happens then every other ps games like this one will be acquired psn sign in on pc/steam then

  • @-chase-
    @-chase- 2 місяці тому +3

    Pssssst !!! They will charge you guys a subscription fee after 😉

  • @garfunkle5447
    @garfunkle5447 2 місяці тому +1

    Playstation wants your data. Would you give your data to a company whose network is not secure. They've been hacked several times.

  • @BrotherKnowledge.
    @BrotherKnowledge. 2 місяці тому

    I watch everything at 1.75x speed, myself. Totally get it.

  • @sdfpcplay9392
    @sdfpcplay9392 2 місяці тому

    the drama is juicy and I love it

  • @andreasb4kken
    @andreasb4kken 2 місяці тому

    I mostly think this will blow over in a few weeks and is somewhat redundant to focus on. But that’s just me.

  • @MrAngryMonkey100
    @MrAngryMonkey100 2 місяці тому

    what people should be more conserned is that they get can a hold of data they are not allowed to have and (ie playing another game) and you say or do something Sony doesn't, like well they can ban you from HS2 and then issue a VAC ban to Steam and word it to where you lose you account...that should also be a big concern..

    • @TheDude8008S
      @TheDude8008S 2 місяці тому

      This exactly...u are being held to their tos

    • @MrAngryMonkey100
      @MrAngryMonkey100 2 місяці тому

      @@TheDude8008S not me I refuse to make an account and also why should I pay to play multiplayer in a closed garden? SOYny is trying to cornor the PC gaming market by strong-arming us PC gamers....unlike console who are brainwashed to consume and wait for the next thing to consume... that will break them and I want them to get kicked around...oh wait the bait and switch from Stellar blade will do that...

  • @wyrmmm
    @wyrmmm 2 місяці тому

    Damn game keeps crashing after last update

  • @BrotherKnowledge.
    @BrotherKnowledge. 2 місяці тому

    Putsode of those who live in countries or areas that has access to PSN, I don't see how this is a real problem.
    At the same time, I play on all platforms, so this is nothing to me. Hell, I actually *prefer* to have all of my accounts linked. I think it's rather cool that I can game on my Xbox and see that a friend is playing a game on PC, or that I can play on PC and see a friend of mine playing on Xbox. Wish I could add my PSN to that as well. 🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @reamoinmcdonachadh9519
    @reamoinmcdonachadh9519 2 місяці тому

    It's only for Playstation Network, a very basic account and it's not about linking PS Plus which Sony would never want linked to Steam.

    • @golddragongaming1
      @golddragongaming1 2 місяці тому +2

      The problem is that statement isn't good enough since they knowingly sold it in countries where they don't offer PSN so soon those people will have no means at all to play the game. yet Sony took their money knowing they'd later pull the rug out from under those people.

    • @carolinagamer2874
      @carolinagamer2874 2 місяці тому +1

      There are countries where people bought this game through Steam that don't have access to a PSN account. They cannot create the account that is mandatory to play a game they bought at launch. Because they were told it's optional smh.

    • @reamoinmcdonachadh9519
      @reamoinmcdonachadh9519 2 місяці тому +2

      @@carolinagamer2874 Yes, agreed. BUT it is NO LONGER OPTIONAL. That I fear is the policy Sony are adopting going forward. So, SONY now have a problem, especially for those who cannot or do not have access to a PSN account for whatever reason. Sometimes Companies pull the STUPIDEST SHIT to make a buck!!

  • @koselig402
    @koselig402 2 місяці тому

    i will not play until my fellow divers in countries that are not supported by PSN are allowed to play without dodging the playstation ToS. ridiculous c-suite decision here.

  • @MamoMark
    @MamoMark 2 місяці тому

    It's fine to require these things, if it's clear to the user that they cannot play without an account and they are still within a refund window.
    To require this after the game has been out for about 2 months is ridiculous. It should have been a requirement day one, and not something that's forced upon the user because the publisher now wants to do it.

  • @Omgitsjoshers123
    @Omgitsjoshers123 2 місяці тому +1

    Xbox doesn’t do this shit with games that come to steam 😐
    Sony continuing with their perpetual bullshit

  • @zerog_0
    @zerog_0 2 місяці тому

    steam is not selling helldivers 2 in those non psn region

  • @keshonhend2047
    @keshonhend2047 2 місяці тому

    The game literally did not work until this restriction was removed. Why bring it back?

  • @franks_9254
    @franks_9254 2 місяці тому

    Won't spoil the fun on bashing. But on the steam page, it always was stated, that a 3rd party account is required. Just people did not read properly.

    • @golddragongaming1
      @golddragongaming1 2 місяці тому +2

      The problem is that statement isn't good enough since they knowingly sold it in countries where they don't offer PSN so soon those people will have no means at all to play the game. yet Sony took their money knowing they'd later pull the rug out from under those people.

    • @ivanajero8624
      @ivanajero8624 2 місяці тому

      It was optional and they changed it recently

    • @SotNist
      @SotNist 2 місяці тому

      @@golddragongaming1 they can just make a PSN account in another region. I've had multiple region accounts for a variety of reasons since the PS3 days.

    • @carolinagamer2874
      @carolinagamer2874 2 місяці тому +2

      ​@@SotNistOr Sony could just not make it mandatory. Seems simple enough right?

    • @SotNist
      @SotNist 2 місяці тому

      @@carolinagamer2874 seems simple both ways.

  • @KillerCEOZ
    @KillerCEOZ 2 місяці тому

    People make on every dom site and playforms accounts but cry once PSN is beeded, serius wtf people.

  • @XSquidbeatsX
    @XSquidbeatsX 2 місяці тому

    Now people in 200 countries can longer play a game they paid for. Thanks Sony.

  • @davefawcett4894
    @davefawcett4894 2 місяці тому

    The community managers caused this more than anything. Had they just said that Arrowhead did not have a choice due to Sony, this story would not have blown up. However, when the community managers were jerks, THEY fed the fever....Arrowhead should apologize and fire them and now Sony needs to backtrack or Helldivers 2 might fail.

  • @magnusmadkrantz147
    @magnusmadkrantz147 2 місяці тому

    PlayStation needs to pad out those MAU numbers.

  • @mattmanley7118
    @mattmanley7118 2 місяці тому

    Yea I’m not playing now and I was excited to do so on my first ever PC build. ❤
    Yes the information is on the Steam page but PSN has never been secure. No thank you.
    Sony are just tossing that goodwill out the window and watching it fall down into a ditch as it ultimately flows down a river never to be seen again😅
    All in all I think they’re doing this to pump up subscriber numbers which of course is for $$ sigh.

  • @user-fk7yq9bj5b
    @user-fk7yq9bj5b 2 місяці тому

    ok what if you dont own a ps4 for helldivers?

  • @pigeon_farmboy2364
    @pigeon_farmboy2364 2 місяці тому

    Xbox does it for minecraft and grounded on the switch

  • @timothystevenhoward
    @timothystevenhoward 2 місяці тому

    CEOs need to become comfortable when we don't buy their games

  • @TheDude8008S
    @TheDude8008S 2 місяці тому

    Sadly the playerbase will go back to playing and this will blow over

  • @DaxRaider
    @DaxRaider 2 місяці тому

    arrowhead rly needs community training ... after helldivers 1 got some bad reviews the ceo made a tweet complainging about it and asking whats next reviewbomb their other games like magica too? ... what the fuck how does he expect peoiple will react ???
    jaeh now magica is mixed too xD i mean its 2024 you cant tweet that shit

  • @spiral8003
    @spiral8003 2 місяці тому

    I did most of the things I wanted in Helldivers 2 before this crap. Now it's definitely an uninstall.

  • @kiekeyz
    @kiekeyz 2 місяці тому

    just got mine refunded. PSN isnt available here in jamaica.

  • @jeromepoe946
    @jeromepoe946 2 місяці тому

    Agree with nearly everything however except one. You mentioned bungie, and bungie is an independent subsidiary. They are partnered but not completely owned by PlayStation. That said PlayStation because of that can’t add the requirement to destiny. Just don’t appreciate fear mongering around my favorite game when they are still (mostly) independent.

  • @anscharfrost7303
    @anscharfrost7303 2 місяці тому

    ***New Major Order***
    arrowhead needs leverage on sony
    and for that reason orderd to Dorp
    Hellbombs on steam reviews so if
    you own a copy of HD2 on steam
    bombs away do your Part for Democracy
    #freehelldivers #freestellarblade

  • @TheVisualParadox
    @TheVisualParadox 2 місяці тому

    I have a sony account and I will not link to my steam.

  • @STICK999991
    @STICK999991 2 місяці тому +1

    Basic common sense will tell you!!! This is all due to competition against Microsoft's Xbox Gamepass,which continues to remain dominant against sony's psn membership...Typically speaking!!!

    • @alekjanowski9847
      @alekjanowski9847 2 місяці тому

      Basic common sense will also tell you that unlike SONY these companies ain't getting hacked almost on a YEARLY basis!

    • @STICK999991
      @STICK999991 2 місяці тому

      @alekjanowski9847 That's False!!! Many companies get hacked on a daily basis...

  • @bdiddy2k6
    @bdiddy2k6 2 місяці тому

    I understand the anger. PSN isn't available in every country that Steam is. If PSN isn't in your country you got screwed out of your money.
    I don't want to link my Steam account to a service that gets hacked all the time.

  • @sg1trogdor
    @sg1trogdor 2 місяці тому

    Well im done. I guess its too late for a refund at this point though. Well it was fun while it lasted. Wonder if this could open them uo to a lawsuit? Get everyone to buy your game then months later force them to deal with this crap or you cant play. Im not getting a playstation account. I havent had one for years and dont plan on it. Honestly its shit like this that turns me off of ever buying another console in general.

  • @deathkiller07seven30
    @deathkiller07seven30 2 місяці тому

    This is not the only game I play on PlayStation the game ask to make an account on battle net is overwatch 2 Ubisoft to play rainbow six and other that require multi platform is this bad they should stop making cross platform games

  • @GMaster000
    @GMaster000 2 місяці тому

    Typical Sony corporate Bs

  • @matthewhardwick8208
    @matthewhardwick8208 2 місяці тому

    This is very "Epic Games" of Sony isn't it? 😅

  • @rmngrnk6752
    @rmngrnk6752 2 місяці тому

    People are just showing that they do not want SONY sht anymore

  • @SnowyRains
    @SnowyRains 2 місяці тому

    I dont blame them for snapping back at idiots they getting blamed and copping all the crap for something they didn’t want.
    They knew what was happening before they pressed the purchase button quite simply you don’t buy what you don’t want. The only people that are entitled to a refund is the region restricted players and if they refuse it opens sony up for a class action lawsuit.
    Dam is it going to be funny when they find out PlayStation is going to have its own launcher. They freaking out over making a dummy account wait til they have to download 1mb 🤣

  • @Sorry_ImTruthful
    @Sorry_ImTruthful 2 місяці тому

    This is pretty much PS telling PC gamers “Gotcha B****!” 😂

    • @Scalespirit121
      @Scalespirit121 2 місяці тому

      Yup got us real good. On unrelated note TOS and EULA changes are grounds for refunds outside 2h policy. Really profitable catch especially prior to quaterly report. I saw potatoes with higher IQ then whoever makes is sitting in Soyny board.

  • @Philsings
    @Philsings 2 місяці тому +2

    There was a really good Tik Tok about everyone was okay for having to make accounts for other games, Xbox, Ubisoft, Rockstar, EA, but when Playstation did it, OH NO!

    • @Tayerful
      @Tayerful 2 місяці тому

      Are you even aware of the track record Sony has for leaking data?

  • @herbertjimenez9819
    @herbertjimenez9819 2 місяці тому

    Sony just used Helldivers to establish dominance over all other gaming platforms 😂. It’s all about the money people sorry for those who are affected by region.

  • @DaveGX
    @DaveGX 2 місяці тому

    This has to be a $ony decision because Valve has no rights to the game. Honestly a dumb move unless all of the big 3 start doing this, which Nintendo won't. Regardless, they should rip their games from Steam and quit distributing them there to begin with if this is how they're going to treat their properties because Steam isn't theirs to dictate login/account management to begin with.

  • @matsta177
    @matsta177 2 місяці тому

    Consumer Fraud

  • @flipyapd2321
    @flipyapd2321 2 місяці тому

    There goes Helldivers 2 on Xbox

    • @bobhawkins9598
      @bobhawkins9598 2 місяці тому

      Your not getting it anyway

    • @flipyapd2321
      @flipyapd2321 2 місяці тому

      @@bobhawkins9598 They were talking about an Xbox port bud

    • @TheBean87
      @TheBean87 2 місяці тому

      @@bobhawkins9598looks like they’ll need the boost in numbers, it already dropped 80% of its playerbase a month ago.

    • @carolinagamer2874
      @carolinagamer2874 2 місяці тому

      ​@@bobhawkins9598 They've already been talking about it 😂

    • @bobhawkins9598
      @bobhawkins9598 2 місяці тому

      @@TheBean87 still get in to full lobbies no probs there, no need for cross play unlike fail Spencer when he was crying for it, for you few

  • @justacat472
    @justacat472 2 місяці тому

    this comes to d2 i will get a full refund of all my destiny dlc i wont join comi PlayStation rules

  • @007GoldenLion
    @007GoldenLion 2 місяці тому

    Microsoft account to play Sea of Thieves on PS5 and nobody complained... The Helldivers 2 situation just shows PC gamers are the VEGANS of gaming.

  • @ProtossHyrdalisk
    @ProtossHyrdalisk 2 місяці тому +2

    Everyone saying what about Microsoft requiring an account?! Clearly, you don't understand that Xbox games rely on servers and APIs that utilize Microsoft authentication protocols. That's why we need an account.
    But what happened with hell divers is different. The game worked on Steam without a PSN account. They went oh of their way to make it work this way rather than Microsoft who's system and games require a Microsoft account.

    • @ryanb3908
      @ryanb3908 2 місяці тому

      Agreed, leave Sony as far away as possible from the MS ecosystem.

  • @jayvee4757
    @jayvee4757 2 місяці тому +1

    I’m enraged Destin!!!!!!!!!! Enraged!!!!! I say!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Lmao Christ man