Right😂 all this time & I never heard of this at all . His plan of fame FAILED. Yet these other school shooters who actually go crazy end up becoming the famous ones!
The media died with JFK, what we have now is deep state psychological ops. Most awesome propaganda ever made. Refusing to name him was a joke to gain your trust.
that may discourage some shooters .... but could encourage others that want to carry out the attack but don't want their name blasted nation wide. Such a complex issue idk what the solution is!
@@MR9BlackM9 It matters to people who think they'll be legends. Take away the fame. And in general we need to stop making these losers famous. Just say "UCC shooter." True crime consumers can get the deets they want.
If anyone is interested in learning about one of the heroes of this awful situation, they should look up Chris Mintz. He helped multiple people escape that day, and for his troubles was shot 5 times by the shooter, miraculously though, Mintz survived.
He is suffering from substance and alcohol abuse these days. My wifes ex was friends with him. survivors guilt can be a real bastard. Trust me, He probably did everything he could. People like you really surprise me. even worse that your our age and you are commenting like 16 year old wannabe stolen valor mfer @@NgJackal1990
Putting aside how utterly tragic these events are for a second, I just want to point out how refreshing it is to hear a dispatcher who is extremely good at both calming callers/victims down as well as gathering crucial information for law enforcement. I'm sick and tired of hearing 911 calls where the dispatcher does a piss poor job -- by either not knowing the proper information to gather, or by having an obnoxious attitude and treating the caller as if they're supposed to act a certain way when they're literally in fear of losing their lives. That shit drives me crazy. So, props to this awesome dispatcher as well as her law enforcement squad for handling this situation about as well as possible in such a chaotic scenario. Also, my sincere condolences to all of the victims and their loved ones.
I agree. As a fan of true crime, I have observed (viewed and listened to) 911 operators who do a piss poor job, as well as those who are awesome. Whenever humans are involved, some will be the worst, some the best, and some somewhere in-between.
As someone who’s struggled with depression for most of my life, I don’t often call suicide victims cowards. But, anyone who’s confident enough to commit such a heinous act and still too afraid to face the consequences of their actions? That’s a real coward.
Period! Struggling with mental health and feeling like there’s no other option is one thing, but he just feels like he is above everyone and wants to be a martyr for incels. It’s nauseating.
100000000% it pisses me off we don’t know hardly anything about school shooters and how their brain works because of this. They also don’t get to squirm in court or get the good ol’ child ab*ser treatment like they should.
the 911 operators did an incredible job, i've heard too many calls where operators were rude or dismissive when distressed callers weren't clear. they kept their composure despite being inundated with calls under immense pressure.
this! and dispatchers seemed genuinely appreciative of all the help that they could get too, especially with the tips that were coming in. it was very bittersweet how their community and people outside of their community came in and contributed with any information that they felt was important instead of just sitting on those gut feelings. something about this case was particularly heartbreaking, i remember it being the beginning of my senior year and there were like six or seven mass shootings by that first day of august and i was terrified of if it would happen in our school next every single day of that year. even now as an adult going back to community college im scared of what ppl could do bc of these cases, i just wish these things would stop. gun violence just keeps growing 😮💨
Yes I totally agree. These operators were outstanding and very patient polite and helpful as they possibly could be. They had to be extremely stressed and had so many calls and reports flooding them, some of which people who they talked to were hearing the gun shots as they were talking on the phone with the operator. I would have been a wreck. They really were wonderful.
@CodeeXD in a perfect world. except high anxiety - high stress situations make it difficult to properly get an understanding of where exactly he could've been going to next since many couldn't get proper visuals bc they were hiding and like, yk.. trying to not get hurt or meet a worse fate. multiple calls end up being a puzzle for them to pinpoint and put the pieces together, they've only got so much to work with but these dispatchers did great for the situation
@mmedusamoonn god, especially in such a small community, too! i couldn't imagine what was going through their heads, and if they themselves had family or friends that could've been out there themselves. i used to want to be a dispatcher when i was in high school and whatnot, but after watching true crime and everything for so long i decided there was no possible way i could handle the mental load of it, especially living in a smaller town myself (i didn't want to see all the bad in my community tbh). i have sooo much respect for dispatchers, these ones especially, they don't get enough recognition for what they do fr
Laurel Harper, his mother, kept buying her son guns no matter how disturbed and rageful he became. Laurel bought him most of the guns used in the shooting. This is remarkably close to the story of Adam Lanza and his mother; he shot the babies at Sandy Hook and his mother "spoiled" him with guns while bemoaning his being violent, isolated, and angry.
Went to a class this summer: They say huddling in a corner is a bad idea. That just makes one an easy target. They're saying don't stand together and if the shooter enters your space to move or throw something at them: Because its harder to strike a moving target and because they are not expecting people to fight back... so when a laptop is flying that their head it might break their stride and give folks time to flee or counter attack.
I get that in the heat of the moment everything is different and that it's all about self preservation as a natural instinct and that they were all young and inexperienced but when a shooter starts executing people single file I would hope they someone in the group would realize a mob attack is the only hope. The one kid did say that but he didn't think anyone else would do it to. You've just got to try man and all you can do is hope others pick up on the plan. Someone is likely to get shot but that's better than everyone getting shot and having the shooter get to choose where on top of it too. Clock really is ticking in a situation like that. Each person he executes drops the chance of you surviving significantly
My employer put us in training/awareness for these type of shooting and it's basically 3 simple rules to follow; run, hide or fight 1. Run if you can 2. Hide and barricade 3. Fight, look for weapon and use it They told us about Virginia tech and showed the survival rate of a classroom that barricaded vs the one that was not vs the one where the teacher was holding the door so students could escape. The barricaded only had injuries if I'm not mistaken. The one with heroic teacher had 3 deaths (including the teacher sadly) and the last classroom almost everyone died if not everyone. This is from memory so sorry if information is incorrect but the gist is the same. Doing something increases your chances for survival.
@@frostbite3820I agree entirely My history teacher taught my class that if we ever had a shooter trying to get in he would be in front of the door with a shotput ball ready for throwing and have the students climb as high as they could in stacked up desks with something to throw at the gunman if it ever came to it Luckily that situation never happened but it stuck with me to remember if I am ever in a shooter situation if there is no way we could escape
I have to say that it's sad that you have to live with idea you can be shot because it's a big possibility and that people keep defending guns to be available so easily.
I think part of the operators suggestion is because cops will be there shortly and the more people running around frantically there are, the more challenging it’s going to be to make sense of it all.
@@jaysmith179Let’s just ignore all the other times that has been useless. Look at Uvalde and Buffalo . But it worked once so it’s obviously the answer 🙄
I remember watching a hyper cut of cellphone footage from kids during a school shooting years back. Just hearing the shots and them in the rooms scared fucked me up. I have been to ranges many times and fired rifles and pistols, but holy shit the sound of a rifle in something like a hallway is terrifyingly loud. It didn't show anyone getting hurt or killed, but I still had to turn it off after a bit. Cops and people in armed service have fucking balls of steel.
Guys have you seen: "The Most TWISTED Case You've Ever Heard" it's right next to "The Most TWISTED Case You've Ever Heard" and before that "The Most TWISTED Case You've Ever Heard". I am so glad that EWU puts enough effort into creating titles that are so unique and easy to differentiate.
I noticed this too! Very respectful. And the poster above me is so right! It’s super rare. Usually 911 operators are rude AF! Most miserable people on the planet next to grocery store workers
As someone who was there...this was one of the most terrifying things I've ever experienced. I was in a back building and got a text from my friend to hide...another friend was shot multiple times and is still recovering.
Do you know where they were hit. I'm only asking because it had to be in very vital areas for them to still be recovering 8 years later. I don't think they'll ever truly get over the mental trauma.
The quick response from authority and the amount of support from lots of people sharing their knowledge and insights related to the shooter, situation really helpful. I hope all the victims can overcome the trauma caused by this tragedy. It was a horrifying experience.
Listening to these students tell what happened and have almost no emotional response is so sad. The shock is in them still. They have to relive what has happened so early on. I can't imagine the trauma they have from this once it all set in and they had time to really think and process what happened. Poor things.
That’s not true, American kids are built different to others. They are exposed to much greater extremes in all areas of life, including trauma and don’t perceive things with as strong emotions as other kids would. A school shooting is scary but it doesn’t traumatise American kids like it would others because they have a developed resilience due to the society they live in. Dr Wilkinson did an interesting study on it after the Ocala shooting where the shooter was in their school and kids were laughing and joking around and videoing themselves for their social media accounts.
@@nemiw4429 Your lack of empathy and inability to understand human emotion truly baffles me. Yes, humanity has committed many atrocities including genocide, murder, wars, etc, and it is an unfortunately large part of our history, but these are NOT reasons to excuse people of their actions when they mindlessly kill innocents. Using humanity’s past as an excuse for the lack of emotion people have nowadays is disgusting, people like you who use excuses to downplay these killer’s massacres are part of the problem. Especially when you say obnoxious things like, “It’s really not that emotional,” that shows just how disconnected and dumb you are to society, as well as how much empathy you lack for these victims and their families. Not to mention it truly shows your mindset when you care more about a strangers gender identity than you do about the countless lives killed in this massacre. Truly you are a disgusting, immature individual who only cares for yourself. You should get some serious help and sort out your life before you go talking nonsense on the internet.
This is so horrific. I have to say that im thankful that the dispatchers were kind and calm. My heart hurts for everyone who lost their lives, and the loved ones of those victims. Such a horrible and senseless tragedy.
The lengths and depths EWU goes to, to bring quality, honest content with multiple points of view and educational values throw in the legal jargon and medical stuff this is really an amazing channel! I love you EWU! ❤
this video hits so close to me. I met a student that was there that day in a mental health treatment facility last year. he was in that room, he was the "survivor" chosen by the shooter to give the police his manifesto. he recounted his story, similar to the one told by students in the video. fucking heartbreaking, the amount of guilt that boy felt as the "survivor" was haunting. EDIT: im still watching, hes the one with the manilla evelope at 22:55 thats him speaking. im in tears, that poor boy. the panic in his voice. this is too close.
@@kingpettytvhow so? Blessed with survivors guilt, mental illness, trauma, and people using his story as a claim to fame? It's not like he stopped to look at a butterfly, and a tree fell right where he would have been walking, or a barista accidentally upgraded his coffee order. He lived through a mass shooting. Let's not dismiss the trauma he continues to endure from that moment onwards by pretending he somehow had good fortune.
This one hits way closer than any other video I've watched from EWU. My aunt was there that day. She works in administration and has for many years. I heard about the shooting and was about to call my mom to see if she had any information when she called me. Her sister was ok, as she was in the admin building when it happened. I was so relieved but also so saddened to hear people lost their lives, people my aunt likely knew. Thank you for sharing this side of the story.
@martinklnp3432everyone's got problems in life. You deal with them and move forward. Don't feel sorry for a pussy b*tch who can't handle loneliness. When you hurt innocents, you deserve death. Plain and simple
This rattled my city. Roseburg is build with a STRONG community of people who just want to help others. I was a freshman at RHS when this happened, and my house is only a mile or so from the college campus. My heart will always go out to the people who lost their lives that morning. May your souls rest easy. Roseburg Strong.
@@acorndog112I’m so sorry you had to go through that. I’ve seen all the old gore shock videos and not much scares me. But the telling of the events by the students gave me goosebumps.
The student who described it so vividly and candidly is an unbelievably strong young woman. She knew her statement was helping people understand and she got it done. The shock and trauma alone of what she described would be hard for anyone to come back from let alone talk about it so honestly and in detail. those poor children and staff and emergency workers that day. I'm a UK resident, shouldn't they by now have airport style security on every single school of every age? The cost would be high but the price of it not being in place for every single entry point of every single school in the US is beyond money and time, its peoples lives. While guns are legal the people protecting full stop. It can be avoided or at least stopped/contained at the college entrances. So sad what a waste of lives by a waste of space. Mental health is not to blame, you can't blame someone's unpredictability because you have no control or specific warning signs to that but you can prevent it at the first point of entry to every school. Stagger the kids going thru the gates, give groups 5 minute intervals, start some in first lesson an hour later and they stay an hour later at the end of the day. Sorry probably all been said but why isn't it happening? Where is the action plan that will stop this from happening.
Yeah, it gave me shills and I had to replay those parts a few times because I couldn't even keep up. She should be proud to give so many detail on the situation she had to experience even during shock.
Some highschools ive been through do have metal detectors at the entrance but its mostly only in schools in areas that have gang activity often. Otherwise most schools have nothing and unfortunately even if they did it really wouldnt stop someone from just walking in with a weapon and opening fire. It only stops the person from sneaking the weapon in
I was at a nearby high school when this shooting happened and had older siblings that attended the college. Many of my classmates also had siblings who went to school at ucc. It was one of the most painstakingly slow days where most of us sat by our phones waiting to hear back from loved ones and also in fear that the shooter would come to our school that was in the area. Luckily my family members and all of my classmates family members that went to school at ucc were able to come home safe. My condolences to the lives lost. Ucc strong 💞
I give my support to all the teachers, I'll never forget my professor who told us on the first day of class he'd take a bullet for us if anyone ever unleashed on the school🙏🇺🇸👍I thank them for their bravery
I actually picked up the bodies from this event. I remember telling my ex “man that’s terrible. I’m glad I won’t have to deal with that.” I got a call the next morning that proved me wrong. It was crazy seeing the different sizes/ages of people this loser managed to take down. They called the company I worked for and I think 2 others, since there were so many. The police briefed us on how we would transport them to a nearby air base. They essentially set up a motorcade, lights on and sirens off. We got to the air base and loaded everyone up on I think 2 separate helicopters. It was a majestic, solemn experience. I’ll never forget it.
@@mountainman4859 by law enforcement and the military, absolutely. I’ve got a laundry list of choice words for the company I worked for at that time. But nonetheless, the situation was handled with the utmost respect in relation to the victims.
I was enrolled at this school when this happened and just so happen to not have a class that day! I’ll never forget the pure fear in my high school daughters voice when she called. She was terrified for me.
God bless those dispatchers. Their levels of composure, compassion, and urgency can be felt watching this video. Thank you ladies for being such good people. Watch over them, Lord.
This brings back horrible memories of the shooting that happened at my sons middle school 2 years ago but it was a student that brought a gun to school and shot/killed another student in the hallway. It's a parents worst nightmare. My heart goes out to all the families 💔
I am so sorry for you and your son, and the other children, faculty and families. I have a daughter who turned 7 in June. This year I am home schooling. I pray for our children's future.
So sorry you had to go through that. I live in the UK 🇬🇧 This doesn't happen here. Does the schools have a metal detection doorway with security on the entrance of the campus 🤔 as this happens a lot in America. I Wish everyone safe ❤
@tabbs1664 UK person here too! It's never happened again since Dunblane. And I'm so thankful. I work in my old high school, and we have an emergency plan for lockdown in place just incase something happens.
Played basketball with Treven Anspach... Remember him to this day, he was a hero for one of the survivors. Would've led a great life. May he rest in peace.
My sister in law at the time, Lacey, was that survivor that he saved. God bless Treven. We still talk about him often, though we never met him. His final act was such a heroic one.
I lived in this community from 2017 to 2020. It was still suffering from the aftereffects of this shooting. Sheriff Hanlin refused to say the shooter's name. Umpqua Strong!
I have watched so many cases with 911 operators and she is one of the best I've heard - she was so comforting to both the parents and those at the location.
This shooting rocked our area - and I was close with some folks who went through it first hand…one of our employees lost her sister that day and it really just… It was all surreal and terribly tragic. I am so proud of the reporters/journalists for avoiding any mention of the killers name in the days/weeks/months following this tragedy.
I keep meeting men with the (old) Aspergers diagnosis who were diagnosed because they dont display or understand emotions. When you get to know them you find out they are actually psychopaths and the lack of display/understanding of emotions is actually a lack of any emotions and a lack of empathy. My most recent aspergers ex friend told me he wanted to know what it felt like to kill someone. He stalked and threatened me when I cut him off and even had a different story for each of my friends to get them to make me do what he wanted again. He was a highly manipulative liar who regularly used his aspergers to avoid responsibility for his toxic behavior. His behavior was exactly the same as a very toxic (non-aspergers) person our friend group just kicked out. The only difference was social skills. They lack the ability to connect with anyone, think they are superior, have no empathy, dont care about how others are feeling, and crave social acceptance and social superiority. Instead of faking it in a charming way the standard accepted psychopath does, they shut down instead/lack charm and live in their heads meaning it can be mistaken for something else due to a lack of signs. You only find out what they are when they do crazy things, usually when they feel comfortable enough to show who they are. Imo men who had previously been diagnosed with Aspergers need to be reassessed as too many psychopaths were put under the term and not getting the help or monitoring they need. Hans Asperger was a Nazi so it makes sense he would fail to see psychopath traits as they are, due to who he was and the people he was around. People with Autism (me) have emotions very strongly but get too overwhelmed to show them often shutting down. We understand others emotions as well but the failure of understanding social situations means we dont know how to respond. We may also have trouble reading facial expressions to gauge emotion. We understand them when we known the person and their specific facial expressions. We connect well with the right people, and do well in the right environment with either social rules explained to us or none. We care about other people and how they are feeling. We have empathy. When told we are doing something wrong/hurtful, we stop and try to understand so we don't do it again. We often do our own thing and don't want to do social standards. We have few friends. We are ok with this once we understand why.
I used to never watch this type of stuff because i would get so creeped out, but EWU is educational and professional. It is literally the onlyyyy channel i have notifications on for
This is a few miles from my house. It was completely devastating to our town and one of the victims Quinn Cooper was very close to me. The whole community tried to never say the shooters name so he would not become infamous for his crimes
it always pisses me off that these ppl will just up and kill themselves and can’t face the consequences of their own damn actions. it’s so pathetic but i guess the best thing is the families don’t have to go thru a trial.
There's a difference between being suicidal, and being pissed at the entire world while still hating your own life. One is inward, the other is outward. In a bitter custody dispute a spouse might shoot the other spouse and then themselves because of how much they hate their spouses and themselves. They have a score to settle with the outside world. Suicidal people just want to die.
Very harrowing to either be a student or the dispatcher, knowing the guy is either in the same room or next room over, yet there is nothing that can be done in that immediate time to save anyone. Well done to the dispatchers as well for remaining calm. It's their job to be calm, but still remarkable considering what was happening.
This happened when I was going to community college in the same state and it was terrifying. I never stepped foot on campus again without thinking about a place to run or hide
I used to read the Oregonian all the time when I was in Job Corp back in the early 80s, The Job Corp center I was at was in Idaho, and I knew there were a lot of people there from Oregon, and Washington as well, but I could never understand how the Oregonian ended up in the dorm room all the time, out in the television and living area, I always assumed that maybe the parents of some of the kids there were sending them the paper to keep them caught up on local stuff. I personally have never even been to Oregon, the paper was interesting though, you have to remember we had to make our own fun back then, no phones. 😆
kid realized he wasn't the hero of his own story and his entitled ass threw a child's hissifit on an adult scale. it obviously wasn't worth the other lives lost, but I'm glad this scum is no longer with us
this hits so close to home I went into lockdown in my pe class in 8th grade while this shooting happened. I went to preschool at ucc while my mom attended classes. Glad to finally see this case covered ❤
The boy who said, maybe we could've intervened/I couldn't do anything, clearly feels some guilt. It's okay son, you went home alive to your family. No guilt/shame/cowardice in that. Nobody knows what they'd do in same situation, we can talk about being a hero but we don't know until faced with it. Woulda, coulda, shoulda won't change the outcome. Live a purpose-filled life to honor those who didn't make it home. 🕯🙏🏽
It’s horrific but I’ve told my kids if they’re ever anywhere with a shooter to either hide under a body or smear blood on themselves and lay down. Isn’t it devastating that you’ve got to have such a conversation with your children?! What a terrible world we live in!
Been watching for over a decade. I'm so glad you hung on and managed to find happiness on the platform again- you and your content has always been such a comfort to me and I'm sure I wouldn't have been the only one who would miss seeing your videos go up. Love ya Ken, and thank you for all the videos you've given us! ❤❤
I don't carry because " I want to hurt someone" I carry because demons like this "man" exist and if I can save 1 person with my life then all my wasted time won't feel so bad
The woman giving the details about being in 'Snyder" was amazing. She spoke clear and to the point. Gee, it's almost like she figured it would happen some day.
This was my school. I was supposed to be there later in the day. So many of my friends were there for it. One of my best friends was shot, he is okay. We all still are UCC strong.
I don’t think this case is any more twisted than any other. He was just another narcissist with an antisocial personality, who didn’t fit in. But instead of joining groups of young people with similar interests, joining a church (not my thing but it may have helped him), or reaching out to family or a councillor he chose instead to harbour resentment and hatred. They coddle and nurture that resentment until it turns completely black, and then they start formulating their plan. If they can’t get the attention every narcissist desires by doing positive, then they’ll get it by doing negative. And they do. They kill who and what they covet. Other people who to them seemingly have everything they ever wanted. Friends, popularity, a partner, happiness, a job, and in this case, faith. I think in a sense they’re killing that part of themselves that wants and needs those same things, but for whatever reason hadn’t been able to achieve them. And whether they live or die they’ve still committed an emotional suicide. It’s sad for the victims that people like this don’t put in the same effort to address their social awkwardness as they do in planning the murders of innocent people. Or that they don’t just kill themselves. Not that I’m advocating that as a solution, just simply that if they’re going to kill why can’t they limit the death toll to just one: themselves. But for that to happen they might have to actually admit that there’s something wrong with them, instead of there being something wrong with everybody else. But a narcissist will NEVER see it that way, or they wouldn’t be a narcissist.
Doesn't help that his mother, Laurel, continued to buy him firearms until he essentially collected an entire arsenal... all while knowing he was diagnosed mentally ill and was no longer taking his medication. What a naive and feeble-minded approach to satisfying an unwell child's desires. Very similar to the Adam Lanza/Sandyhook tragedy. I wish these struggling single mothers would get their unstable children help, instead of guns, for f*ck's sake.
School shootings are one of my biggest fears. The pure terror in the voices of the survivors breaks my heart. My worst nightmare is getting a call one day saying one of my siblings ended up in a shooting situation at their school. The US has serious issues.
Treyvons name was not pronounced like that. He gave his last breaths being a body shield for one of the other students. He was a very kind and respectful person. The community of UCC students and families wanted to remember the victims and forget the shooter. There were students who were veterans who acted as human shields against this guy or more would have been lost. The shooter came here from California and was not a member of the community before that summer.
@@TheAnnoyingBoss the campus had went to a gun free zone a semester or two before this. Afterwards it’s no longer a gun free zone again. Mass shooters don’t topically pick targets that might be armed and can shoot back. It was a huge mistake by college administration to make it a gun free zone when they did. Thankfully, it’s no longer a soft target and a gun zone again.
@@PNWwonder a private school in my state let all the teachers that wanted to conceal carry after the gun free zone signs failed to stop the shooting at my public school. Many did too
out of all the true crime, school shootings are the hardest to hear about..it is DISGUSTING how often they happen too. i graduated 2020 but i was so scared to come to class towards the last couple years bc of how often they happen. its almost normalized t this point bc NOTHING is being done. how fking TERRIFYING this woud be to go through i can not imagine...this is so beyond disturbingly dark, terrifying, and horrible.
Asking if they're christian reminds me of the shooters from colombine and the book "she said yes" about cassie bernall. I feel so bad for everyone who witnessed or was affected by these situations.
@@sundaisycake3372 An amazing song, but the actual victim who was asked that question was Valeen Schnurr. It was a mixed-up story for months that it was either Cassie or Rachel who was asked that question until the investigation made it clear it was Valeen who was asked and said yes (who ended up surviving by a miracle).
Omg, when the young man said "i was waitin to die" heart braking, felt the hopeless in those words..... And the guy with the broken voice, so nervous talking so fast... I cant imagine the trauma of this people.... Sad for those who died....
This is honestly sad imagine waking up, you get your kids to school and everything is going well and suddenly you get a call from your kid saying there's a shooter at school and killing people for no reason...
Can we give a big up to the 911 operators in this situation? I’ve seen a lot of videos where they sound like they can’t be bothered like you rudely interrupted their social life, but these operators sounded way more concerned and willing to help.
I call BS on the kid who found the flash-drive; no reasonable person is going to find a bloody manilla envelope, "behind [his] his car", after witnessing a mass pewpew and think, "Oh, I'll just throw this out and turn this drive in to the office staff incase another student lost it", especially since the kid who originally had the envelope said he disposed of it _in_ the trash can.
This is extremely macabre but a series where you break down shootings like this would be really interesting. Very educational and morbidly entertaining video as always.
*FINALLY* 🙌 a Dispatcher that’s ON IT 🙌 quite possibly THE Dispatcher Hall of FAME QUEEEEEEN 👏 👏 👏 God BLESS her for continuing to REASSURE the terrified kids “LOTS of help is on the way NOW. Lots.”
I've never heard of this story in my life, this school shooting and i've been on youtube everyday for the last decade. I never remember hearing it on the news or anywhere. Dude was nuts.
That poor guy talking about smearing other people’s blood and brains on himself to play dead 😢 my heart breaks for what they’ve all witnessed and experienced 😢
The online approval of this madness on that site the callers reported, is utterly vile. Every poster affirming this action should be convicted of aiding and abbetting a crime.
@@charleslindbergh8222 I endorse you getting out of your moms house and to stop being a virgin, but that's not gonna happen just like Chris paying anyone a visit ever again isn't gonna happen.
@@randomlyfactual1943 I'd like to bring up the fact the college is a gun free zone, so anybody carrying a gun besides police is commiting a felony and that person according to the 2nd Amendment is a Felon and would lose their right to the 2nd Amendment. So, yeah, I agree, you should be armed as much and as often as possible but when laws are designed to leave you defenseless and the attempt at defending yourself would remove your right to bear arms would you still do it? If you get caught, you're a criminal, and so far the only one with a gun on campus at that moment is you... you're now the "potential active shooter"
I'm sure some of the victims had the same mindset as you. It's hard to make that statement. Fear can change you. Reaching out to fight might also put everyone around you in danger if the shooter misfires. You never really know how you would react unless you were actually in a situation like that
And yet tell me why getting therapy for mental health issues in the US is more difficult and expensive than access to weapons… like I’m out here using my student loan money for my meds and learning how to become my own therapist, fam. Not everyone has that kind of choice though. It just breaks my heart. Sending so much healing and peace to any and all that were impacted by this tragedy.
What a horrible feeling, being in terror like that, knowing that you were probably going to be killed. Talk about traumatic. I’m starting community college today, and I can’t lie, this kind of thing is in the back of my mind
RIP to the 9 victums and their families. He had to be a very sad and distured man. I wish someone sought him help behave he got to that point. Such a sad terrible story.
I have a 9, 6, and 2 year old. I started crying listening to the students' and parents' police calls. This happens too often in this country, I honestly wonder why I still choose to live here sometimes.
I hope these kids parents can find comfort in the fact that their children are with their Heavenly Father now. I’m a new mom and I can’t imagine the devastation I would feel if anyone even tried to harm my baby!
The athiest whi claims their is no god in this story clearly believed in satan and he killed so many people that in only a few generations it would be like losing a small town
I have only watched your true crime channel. I had no idea you were struggling the way you were. With that said I am so proud of you and I can’t wait to go through your journey with you on your second channel. I will be watching that today and will keep you in my thoughts. I also wanted to congratulate you on your move as well. You’re amazing. 💕💕💕💕💕
As one of my greatest fears is mass shootings, this is one video I had to stop watching before I was 5 minutes in. I hope one day I will live somewhere that this is not a constant, active threat every time I leave my home.
Dude, stop living in a bubble. The liberal media got you so brainwashed that you're scared of something that rarely happens. I'm an Asian who's in his early 40s. I grew up in a rough area full of gang activities and 3 blocks from the projects. I've witness a lot of drive by shootings or heard of it across from my friend's porch that has a view of the projects. Never once have I've been shot at or involved in a shooting. You know why, it doesn't happen often, and a lot of them stem from gang violence. You stay away from gangs and your chances of being in a mass shooting is slim to none. Stop being such a brainwashed liberal. 330 million people in this country and one of your greatest fear is something the media has pushed as propaganda. You should be more worried about the gang violence and weak criminal systems plaguing big cities.
@@philster6383 Constant threat? Where? I'm in my 40s and never been in one. Keep believing the media. Most shootings are gang violence but people like you are too scared to talk about it.
One of my very best friends and I love these videos! We would always answer the phone "whats up ewooo?" and we really enjoyed talking about the crazy stories... He died last spring and i really miss him! These videos bring him back in a little way, so thank you
I just wanna add that i typed that post at the beginning of this video... this is such a horrific story of yet another tragedy caused by mental illness. I probably would have used slightly different wording had i typed it AFTER watching! I was relishing over the quality of these EWU productions, not relishing the tragedy....
I cannot help but to put myself in those people's shoes. I know their last thoughts were of their parents and loved ones as they met their fate, only wishing to tell them one last time how much they were loved. 😢
It’s 2023 and I don’t know why we don’t have a panic button in every school that not only sends a distress signal to authorities, but can also lock every single room on campus! Unfortunately, we hear about school shootings pretty regularly in todays society, but unlike everything else, I cannot seem become numb to it. It’s just as harrowing every single time! 😭
because in theory, it sounds like a good idea. but imagine if someone pressed it during a fire or any other type of emergency? people automatically being locked inside a room by a panic button anyone could click is just not a good idea.
This is good, perhaps now ull see this channel is here to push the msm big pharma narrative "mental health" Hes not here to be positive or highlight good only negative n create division.
@@auntymurda Chris is an Army vet who was a student at Umpqua at the time. When he heard the attack, he ran up and down the halls, pulling alarms and telling people to get out of the school. Instead of running to safety, he ran back towards his own class and when he seen the shooter coming towards his class, he blocked the door w/ his body. He was shot seven times through the door, but continued to block it. He saved countless lives.
@@auntymurda My fault, I didn’t mention that Chris actually survived! He is alive and well today, but he has definitely paid an enormous cost for his heroism that day.
Can we take a second to appreciate the dispatchers? They were so comforting and calm, weren’t demanding when it came to info and put the victims and potential victims first at all times. Fucking brilliant job.
I take satisfaction in the fact that this guy did the shooting for fame, but that I never heard of him until now.
There was a whole local campaign to not say his name.
@@ImLunaShesZeta awesome. Love to hear that.
Right😂 all this time & I never heard of this at all . His plan of fame FAILED. Yet these other school shooters who actually go crazy end up becoming the famous ones!
Now I'm conflicted that I know this happed 😢
Fun Fact - His manifesto features a giant image of Gucci Mane
I live 45 minutes away and the most awesome thing that the media did was not broadcast his name. They refused to give the shooter any validity.
That's awesome. I am definitely a news type of person and always follow what's going on. And I've never heard of his name until I watched this.
The media died with JFK, what we have now is deep state psychological ops. Most awesome propaganda ever made. Refusing to name him was a joke to gain your trust.
that may discourage some shooters .... but could encourage others that want to carry out the attack but don't want their name blasted nation wide. Such a complex issue idk what the solution is!
@@FatRescueSwimmer04 solution is easy ban guns, social credit and social distance. Or we stop believing the crisis actors and propagandists
@@MR9BlackM9 It matters to people who think they'll be legends. Take away the fame.
And in general we need to stop making these losers famous. Just say "UCC shooter." True crime consumers can get the deets they want.
If anyone is interested in learning about one of the heroes of this awful situation, they should look up Chris Mintz. He helped multiple people escape that day, and for his troubles was shot 5 times by the shooter, miraculously though, Mintz survived.
What a hero. Im glad he was ok
Nah I’m cool. Thanks though
He's a military man, he should have jumped the shooter!
@@NgJackal1990 He saved people's lives and that is enough.
He is suffering from substance and alcohol abuse these days. My wifes ex was friends with him. survivors guilt can be a real bastard. Trust me, He probably did everything he could. People like you really surprise me. even worse that your our age and you are commenting like 16 year old wannabe stolen valor mfer @@NgJackal1990
Putting aside how utterly tragic these events are for a second, I just want to point out how refreshing it is to hear a dispatcher who is extremely good at both calming callers/victims down as well as gathering crucial information for law enforcement. I'm sick and tired of hearing 911 calls where the dispatcher does a piss poor job -- by either not knowing the proper information to gather, or by having an obnoxious attitude and treating the caller as if they're supposed to act a certain way when they're literally in fear of losing their lives. That shit drives me crazy. So, props to this awesome dispatcher as well as her law enforcement squad for handling this situation about as well as possible in such a chaotic scenario. Also, my sincere condolences to all of the victims and their loved ones.
All very well said
Well said and she is great❤
We do it different in the midwest. Niceness and kindness is a big part of respect in our culture.
I agree. As a fan of true crime, I have observed (viewed and listened to) 911 operators who do a piss poor job, as well as those who are awesome. Whenever humans are involved, some will be the worst, some the best, and some somewhere in-between.
As someone who’s struggled with depression for most of my life, I don’t often call suicide victims cowards. But, anyone who’s confident enough to commit such a heinous act and still too afraid to face the consequences of their actions? That’s a real coward.
Period! Struggling with mental health and feeling like there’s no other option is one thing, but he just feels like he is above everyone and wants to be a martyr for incels. It’s nauseating.
Absolutely!
100 percent
100000000% it pisses me off we don’t know hardly anything about school shooters and how their brain works because of this. They also don’t get to squirm in court or get the good ol’ child ab*ser treatment like they should.
You cannot know if he was afraid to face the consequences. He may have just chose not too.
the 911 operators did an incredible job, i've heard too many calls where operators were rude or dismissive when distressed callers weren't clear. they kept their composure despite being inundated with calls under immense pressure.
this! and dispatchers seemed genuinely appreciative of all the help that they could get too, especially with the tips that were coming in. it was very bittersweet how their community and people outside of their community came in and contributed with any information that they felt was important instead of just sitting on those gut feelings. something about this case was particularly heartbreaking, i remember it being the beginning of my senior year and there were like six or seven mass shootings by that first day of august and i was terrified of if it would happen in our school next every single day of that year. even now as an adult going back to community college im scared of what ppl could do bc of these cases, i just wish these things would stop. gun violence just keeps growing 😮💨
Yes I totally agree. These operators were outstanding and very patient polite and helpful as they possibly could be. They had to be extremely stressed and had so many calls and reports flooding them, some of which people who they talked to were hearing the gun shots as they were talking on the phone with the operator. I would have been a wreck. They really were wonderful.
Yeah but I get it in a way. Like tell them where tf the shooter is at so they can send help to the correct place.
@CodeeXD in a perfect world. except high anxiety - high stress situations make it difficult to properly get an understanding of where exactly he could've been going to next since many couldn't get proper visuals bc they were hiding and like, yk.. trying to not get hurt or meet a worse fate. multiple calls end up being a puzzle for them to pinpoint and put the pieces together, they've only got so much to work with but these dispatchers did great for the situation
@mmedusamoonn god, especially in such a small community, too! i couldn't imagine what was going through their heads, and if they themselves had family or friends that could've been out there themselves. i used to want to be a dispatcher when i was in high school and whatnot, but after watching true crime and everything for so long i decided there was no possible way i could handle the mental load of it, especially living in a smaller town myself (i didn't want to see all the bad in my community tbh). i have sooo much respect for dispatchers, these ones especially, they don't get enough recognition for what they do fr
Laurel Harper, his mother, kept buying her son guns no matter how disturbed and rageful he became. Laurel bought him most of the guns used in the shooting. This is remarkably close to the story of Adam Lanza and his mother; he shot the babies at Sandy Hook and his mother "spoiled" him with guns while bemoaning his being violent, isolated, and angry.
If this is true the mother is a dumbass. Why give your anger issues, depressed, bipolar son guns?? Wtf is this logic.
This is sad and infuriating at the same time
If they couldn’t buy guns it wouldn’t have happened
@@liljes34if only murder was illegal this would have never happened! See pipe bombings
Lol it's so American to blame the parents when it's the lawmakers who make guns so accessible.
I love how the whole community came together, sharing tips on how to find him
Went to a class this summer: They say huddling in a corner is a bad idea. That just makes one an easy target. They're saying don't stand together and if the shooter enters your space to move or throw something at them: Because its harder to strike a moving target and because they are not expecting people to fight back... so when a laptop is flying that their head it might break their stride and give folks time to flee or counter attack.
I get that in the heat of the moment everything is different and that it's all about self preservation as a natural instinct and that they were all young and inexperienced but when a shooter starts executing people single file I would hope they someone in the group would realize a mob attack is the only hope. The one kid did say that but he didn't think anyone else would do it to. You've just got to try man and all you can do is hope others pick up on the plan. Someone is likely to get shot but that's better than everyone getting shot and having the shooter get to choose where on top of it too. Clock really is ticking in a situation like that. Each person he executes drops the chance of you surviving significantly
My employer put us in training/awareness for these type of shooting and it's basically 3 simple rules to follow; run, hide or fight
1. Run if you can
2. Hide and barricade
3. Fight, look for weapon and use it
They told us about Virginia tech and showed the survival rate of a classroom that barricaded vs the one that was not vs the one where the teacher was holding the door so students could escape. The barricaded only had injuries if I'm not mistaken. The one with heroic teacher had 3 deaths (including the teacher sadly) and the last classroom almost everyone died if not everyone. This is from memory so sorry if information is incorrect but the gist is the same. Doing something increases your chances for survival.
@@frostbite3820I agree entirely
My history teacher taught my class that if we ever had a shooter trying to get in he would be in front of the door with a shotput ball ready for throwing and have the students climb as high as they could in stacked up desks with something to throw at the gunman if it ever came to it
Luckily that situation never happened but it stuck with me to remember if I am ever in a shooter situation if there is no way we could escape
I have to say that it's sad that you have to live with idea you can be shot because it's a big possibility and that people keep defending guns to be available so easily.
I think part of the operators suggestion is because cops will be there shortly and the more people running around frantically there are, the more challenging it’s going to be to make sense of it all.
I’ve never had to witness a school shooting but just hearing about it & hearing the recording from the calls is just heart breaking.
I know they’re obviously traumatized, but hearing them speak so calmly about feeling someone’s insides on them is just chilling
This is why good folks need to carry guns. Just look at New Mexico? Thank God for the police getting there so quick
@@jaysmith179Let’s just ignore all the other times that has been useless. Look at Uvalde and Buffalo . But it worked once so it’s obviously the answer 🙄
I remember watching a hyper cut of cellphone footage from kids during a school shooting years back. Just hearing the shots and them in the rooms scared fucked me up. I have been to ranges many times and fired rifles and pistols, but holy shit the sound of a rifle in something like a hallway is terrifyingly loud. It didn't show anyone getting hurt or killed, but I still had to turn it off after a bit. Cops and people in armed service have fucking balls of steel.
@@jaysmith179lol
The recounting of the one victim who hid by covering himself with the viscera of his classmates is haunting.
he said it so calmly too, he seems emotionally shut off from it.. i feel so bad, i hope he can recover
That was shocking to hear. Poor guy.
What is a viscera
@@TheeQuinnMit means internal organs. This commenter was being respectful to the victims by not saying brain matter as said in the video.
@TheeQuinnM another way of saying blood and someone's insides.
Guys have you seen: "The Most TWISTED Case You've Ever Heard" it's right next to "The Most TWISTED Case You've Ever Heard" and before that "The Most TWISTED Case You've Ever Heard".
I am so glad that EWU puts enough effort into creating titles that are so unique and easy to differentiate.
I hate those titles cause if i want to search a speific video it will be hard to find it
😂😭😭
It's always a surprise what's going to happen in a video- only clues we get is the thumbnails 😂😂😂
I know it's cheap tbh.
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All the 911 operators were amazing! Very calming and understanding
Rare af
I noticed this too! Very respectful. And the poster above me is so right! It’s super rare. Usually 911 operators are rude AF! Most miserable people on the planet next to grocery store workers
NO ONE should have to go through this. Just because you’re not happy with your life does NOT give you the right to ruin someone else’s.
Facts
What a dumb thing to say
@@charleslindbergh8222are you fuckin slow?
@oogieboogie5941 rights are a myth
Depends
As someone who was there...this was one of the most terrifying things I've ever experienced. I was in a back building and got a text from my friend to hide...another friend was shot multiple times and is still recovering.
i’m so sorry bro, i hope things get way better and easier.
You are strong, you all are.
🫂🙏
Do you know where they were hit. I'm only asking because it had to be in very vital areas for them to still be recovering 8 years later. I don't think they'll ever truly get over the mental trauma.
@Amenhir1 yes I do know where they were hit.
The quick response from authority and the amount of support from lots of people sharing their knowledge and insights related to the shooter, situation really helpful.
I hope all the victims can overcome the trauma caused by this tragedy. It was a horrifying experience.
Listening to these students tell what happened and have almost no emotional response is so sad. The shock is in them still. They have to relive what has happened so early on. I can't imagine the trauma they have from this once it all set in and they had time to really think and process what happened. Poor things.
Knowing Amerikkka it's probably the 6th or 7th school shooting they've been a victim of, I'd have a hard time processing my emotions too :/
@frankcaggiano8282 yeah..Demokkkrats love making everyone sitting ducks for psychos . Especially in schools.
That’s not true, American kids are built different to others. They are exposed to much greater extremes in all areas of life, including trauma and don’t perceive things with as strong emotions as other kids would. A school shooting is scary but it doesn’t traumatise American kids like it would others because they have a developed resilience due to the society they live in. Dr Wilkinson did an interesting study on it after the Ocala shooting where the shooter was in their school and kids were laughing and joking around and videoing themselves for their social media accounts.
@@nemiw4429 Your lack of empathy and inability to understand human emotion truly baffles me. Yes, humanity has committed many atrocities including genocide, murder, wars, etc, and it is an unfortunately large part of our history, but these are NOT reasons to excuse people of their actions when they mindlessly kill innocents. Using humanity’s past as an excuse for the lack of emotion people have nowadays is disgusting, people like you who use excuses to downplay these killer’s massacres are part of the problem. Especially when you say obnoxious things like, “It’s really not that emotional,” that shows just how disconnected and dumb you are to society, as well as how much empathy you lack for these victims and their families. Not to mention it truly shows your mindset when you care more about a strangers gender identity than you do about the countless lives killed in this massacre. Truly you are a disgusting, immature individual who only cares for yourself. You should get some serious help and sort out your life before you go talking nonsense on the internet.
@@BusinessSkrubleave this country then
This is so horrific. I have to say that im thankful that the dispatchers were kind and calm. My heart hurts for everyone who lost their lives, and the loved ones of those victims. Such a horrible and senseless tragedy.
The lengths and depths EWU goes to, to bring quality, honest content with multiple points of view and educational values throw in the legal jargon and medical stuff this is really an amazing channel! I love you EWU! ❤
The lengths and depths. Ewu goes. To bring
❤❤❤❤❤
For real the best account for true crime. Covering everything so in depth like always.
@@MrSiBrum Sherlock Holmes, is that you?!?!
@@clark871.
To think. Everyone. Is a native speaker. Of the English language.
To focus. On spelling. Missing the point. So sad.
this video hits so close to me. I met a student that was there that day in a mental health treatment facility last year. he was in that room, he was the "survivor" chosen by the shooter to give the police his manifesto. he recounted his story, similar to the one told by students in the video. fucking heartbreaking, the amount of guilt that boy felt as the "survivor" was haunting.
EDIT: im still watching, hes the one with the manilla evelope at 22:55 thats him speaking. im in tears, that poor boy. the panic in his voice. this is too close.
He was blessed.
@@kingpettytvhow so? Blessed with survivors guilt, mental illness, trauma, and people using his story as a claim to fame?
It's not like he stopped to look at a butterfly, and a tree fell right where he would have been walking, or a barista accidentally upgraded his coffee order. He lived through a mass shooting. Let's not dismiss the trauma he continues to endure from that moment onwards by pretending he somehow had good fortune.
@@al-ub2ylblessed to not get murdered as well. Can you not understand?
@@al-ub2yl Found the negative Nancy
That poor young man. He is forever changed. He will never be the same
This one hits way closer than any other video I've watched from EWU. My aunt was there that day. She works in administration and has for many years. I heard about the shooting and was about to call my mom to see if she had any information when she called me. Her sister was ok, as she was in the admin building when it happened. I was so relieved but also so saddened to hear people lost their lives, people my aunt likely knew. Thank you for sharing this side of the story.
That's brutal. Hope they are coping well with this situation.
This is seriously horrible. Listening to the first hand accounts, I cannot imagine. Rest In Peace to everyone except the coward.
Only in the USA home of guns for everyone
@martinklnp3432everyone's got problems in life. You deal with them and move forward. Don't feel sorry for a pussy b*tch who can't handle loneliness. When you hurt innocents, you deserve death. Plain and simple
@martinklnp3432boo hoo plenty of people are like that.
Coward? Nah.
@@BrainstormJr he literally is a coward.
This rattled my city. Roseburg is build with a STRONG community of people who just want to help others. I was a freshman at RHS when this happened, and my house is only a mile or so from the college campus. My heart will always go out to the people who lost their lives that morning. May your souls rest easy. Roseburg Strong.
I still remember the exact moment it happened. I was on the third floor of the commons building in my German class when we got the lockdown.
@@acorndog112I’m so sorry you had to go through that. I’ve seen all the old gore shock videos and not much scares me. But the telling of the events by the students gave me goosebumps.
I was a freshman as well but at Oakland highschool, I’m sure it was much more frightening being closer to ucc
I was a freshman at Sutherlin. RIP to the victims. Ucc strong 💚
Roseburg strong ❤
The student who described it so vividly and candidly is an unbelievably strong young woman. She knew her statement was helping people understand and she got it done. The shock and trauma alone of what she described would be hard for anyone to come back from let alone talk about it so honestly and in detail. those poor children and staff and emergency workers that day. I'm a UK resident, shouldn't they by now have airport style security on every single school of every age? The cost would be high but the price of it not being in place for every single entry point of every single school in the US is beyond money and time, its peoples lives. While guns are legal the people protecting full stop. It can be avoided or at least stopped/contained at the college entrances. So sad what a waste of lives by a waste of space. Mental health is not to blame, you can't blame someone's unpredictability because you have no control or specific warning signs to that but you can prevent it at the first point of entry to every school. Stagger the kids going thru the gates, give groups 5 minute intervals, start some in first lesson an hour later and they stay an hour later at the end of the day. Sorry probably all been said but why isn't it happening? Where is the action plan that will stop this from happening.
Yeah, it gave me shills and I had to replay those parts a few times because I couldn't even keep up. She should be proud to give so many detail on the situation she had to experience even during shock.
Some highschools ive been through do have metal detectors at the entrance but its mostly only in schools in areas that have gang activity often. Otherwise most schools have nothing and unfortunately even if they did it really wouldnt stop someone from just walking in with a weapon and opening fire. It only stops the person from sneaking the weapon in
I was at a nearby high school when this shooting happened and had older siblings that attended the college. Many of my classmates also had siblings who went to school at ucc. It was one of the most painstakingly slow days where most of us sat by our phones waiting to hear back from loved ones and also in fear that the shooter would come to our school that was in the area. Luckily my family members and all of my classmates family members that went to school at ucc were able to come home safe. My condolences to the lives lost. Ucc strong 💞
Let me guess, you are so affected deeply?
@@Nuttypro-four community is a very tight community. Chances are they knew a victim. Everyone has been effected by the lose that our community had.
@@Nuttypro-f nasty, end of
Why days if you are a local?
I give my support to all the teachers, I'll never forget my professor who told us on the first day of class he'd take a bullet for us if anyone ever unleashed on the school🙏🇺🇸👍I thank them for their bravery
I actually picked up the bodies from this event. I remember telling my ex “man that’s terrible. I’m glad I won’t have to deal with that.” I got a call the next morning that proved me wrong.
It was crazy seeing the different sizes/ages of people this loser managed to take down.
They called the company I worked for and I think 2 others, since there were so many. The police briefed us on how we would transport them to a nearby air base. They essentially set up a motorcade, lights on and sirens off. We got to the air base and loaded everyone up on I think 2 separate helicopters. It was a majestic, solemn experience. I’ll never forget it.
That's unspeakable I have no words
I hope you & your colleagues had access to mental health support services in the aftermath of this horrific event. Sending you peace. Xo
It sounds like they were treated reverently. Glad for that.
@@mountainman4859 by law enforcement and the military, absolutely. I’ve got a laundry list of choice words for the company I worked for at that time. But nonetheless, the situation was handled with the utmost respect in relation to the victims.
@@jaysmith179Factual, good sir!
I was enrolled at this school when this happened and just so happen to not have a class that day! I’ll never forget the pure fear in my high school daughters voice when she called. She was terrified for me.
Kim Dietz was a close friend 😢
I'm sorry you lost your friend and I'm glad too that you didn't have a class that day.
God bless those dispatchers. Their levels of composure, compassion, and urgency can be felt watching this video. Thank you ladies for being such good people. Watch over them, Lord.
This brings back horrible memories of the shooting that happened at my sons middle school 2 years ago but it was a student that brought a gun to school and shot/killed another student in the hallway. It's a parents worst nightmare. My heart goes out to all the families 💔
I am so sorry for you and your son, and the other children, faculty and families. I have a daughter who turned 7 in June. This year I am home schooling. I pray for our children's future.
oh gosh i am so sorry you and your family had to experience that. much love
So sorry you had to go through that. I live in the UK 🇬🇧 This doesn't happen here. Does the schools have a metal detection doorway with security on the entrance of the campus 🤔 as this happens a lot in America. I Wish everyone safe ❤
Where I am from, a parent's worst nightmare is their kid getting expelled. Sorry you guys have to go through this.
@tabbs1664 UK person here too! It's never happened again since Dunblane. And I'm so thankful. I work in my old high school, and we have an emergency plan for lockdown in place just incase something happens.
Played basketball with Treven Anspach... Remember him to this day, he was a hero for one of the survivors. Would've led a great life. May he rest in peace.
My sister in law at the time, Lacey, was that survivor that he saved. God bless Treven. We still talk about him often, though we never met him. His final act was such a heroic one.
I lived in this community from 2017 to 2020. It was still suffering from the aftereffects of this shooting. Sheriff Hanlin refused to say the shooter's name. Umpqua Strong!
I have watched so many cases with 911 operators and she is one of the best I've heard - she was so comforting to both the parents and those at the location.
This shooting rocked our area - and I was close with some folks who went through it first hand…one of our employees lost her sister that day and it really just…
It was all surreal and terribly tragic.
I am so proud of the reporters/journalists for avoiding any mention of the killers name in the days/weeks/months following this tragedy.
"Killer Virgin" has to be one of the worst legacies to leave behind
Lol XD
The way the narrator kept naming more and more victims in memory… horrific.
May these children rest in forever peace.
I keep meeting men with the (old) Aspergers diagnosis who were diagnosed because they dont display or understand emotions. When you get to know them you find out they are actually psychopaths and the lack of display/understanding of emotions is actually a lack of any emotions and a lack of empathy. My most recent aspergers ex friend told me he wanted to know what it felt like to kill someone. He stalked and threatened me when I cut him off and even had a different story for each of my friends to get them to make me do what he wanted again. He was a highly manipulative liar who regularly used his aspergers to avoid responsibility for his toxic behavior. His behavior was exactly the same as a very toxic (non-aspergers) person our friend group just kicked out. The only difference was social skills.
They lack the ability to connect with anyone, think they are superior, have no empathy, dont care about how others are feeling, and crave social acceptance and social superiority. Instead of faking it in a charming way the standard accepted psychopath does, they shut down instead/lack charm and live in their heads meaning it can be mistaken for something else due to a lack of signs. You only find out what they are when they do crazy things, usually when they feel comfortable enough to show who they are.
Imo men who had previously been diagnosed with Aspergers need to be reassessed as too many psychopaths were put under the term and not getting the help or monitoring they need. Hans Asperger was a Nazi so it makes sense he would fail to see psychopath traits as they are, due to who he was and the people he was around.
People with Autism (me) have emotions very strongly but get too overwhelmed to show them often shutting down. We understand others emotions as well but the failure of understanding social situations means we dont know how to respond. We may also have trouble reading facial expressions to gauge emotion. We understand them when we known the person and their specific facial expressions. We connect well with the right people, and do well in the right environment with either social rules explained to us or none. We care about other people and how they are feeling. We have empathy. When told we are doing something wrong/hurtful, we stop and try to understand so we don't do it again. We often do our own thing and don't want to do social standards. We have few friends. We are ok with this once we understand why.
What is " ...to get them to make me do what he wanted again". What did you do? Helped him kill someone??
I used to never watch this type of stuff because i would get so creeped out, but EWU is educational and professional. It is literally the onlyyyy channel i have notifications on for
what r u 10? u creeped out by these kid friendly youtube videos?
Yeah I was gonna call this guy an idiot but you got it.
@@JiYeonKimFan Even if I was, it is clearly YOU who needs to grow up.
This is a few miles from my house. It was completely devastating to our town and one of the victims Quinn Cooper was very close to me. The whole community tried to never say the shooters name so he would not become infamous for his crimes
it always pisses me off that these ppl will just up and kill themselves and can’t face the consequences of their own damn actions. it’s so pathetic but i guess the best thing is the families don’t have to go thru a trial.
That’s how cowards behave.
The cops actually killed him
Like literally why kill other people? Take yourself out
@@nathanwebb1272 If you watched the video. He did this to himself. LOL.
There's a difference between being suicidal, and being pissed at the entire world while still hating your own life. One is inward, the other is outward. In a bitter custody dispute a spouse might shoot the other spouse and then themselves because of how much they hate their spouses and themselves. They have a score to settle with the outside world. Suicidal people just want to die.
Jokes on him, he still died a virgin.
Satan says the opposite, now's he bending over right now
Very harrowing to either be a student or the dispatcher, knowing the guy is either in the same room or next room over, yet there is nothing that can be done in that immediate time to save anyone. Well done to the dispatchers as well for remaining calm. It's their job to be calm, but still remarkable considering what was happening.
Using another persons brain matter is Wild but genius at the same time😐🤔
The unrelenting human instinct to stay alive
Yeah…that’s totally using the brain 🧠 lol
@@nywherebuthere...easily? Just because pistols are weak in CoD doesn't mean they're weak in real life.
@@nywherebuthere why do you care about that and not about the people who lost their lives during this tragedy? seriously, what the hell?
.... I have a feeling that I should leave a comment right here.😬🤔
The community coming together and keeping their eyes open and helping the investigation, is so cool! ❤
This happened when I was going to community college in the same state and it was terrifying. I never stepped foot on campus again without thinking about a place to run or hide
I remember this. As an Oregonian, it’s still shocking to hear about. Thank you for covering this tragedy and spreading awareness of these brave souls.
I used to read the Oregonian all the time when I was in Job Corp back in the early 80s, The Job Corp center I was at was in Idaho, and I knew there were a lot of people there from Oregon, and Washington as well, but I could never understand how the Oregonian ended up in the dorm room all the time, out in the television and living area, I always assumed that maybe the parents of some of the kids there were sending them the paper to keep them caught up on local stuff. I personally have never even been to Oregon, the paper was interesting though, you have to remember we had to make our own fun back then, no phones. 😆
I know seeing this Anthony Fantano-looking clone sends me back a ways myself. Brings back wild memories, to say the least.
As an orangutan? What's that got to do with anything? Wanna banana?
I can’t imagine the terror these poor people went through.
We were brought close to their horror.
You know it’s a good day when you see the EWU video 10 minutes after release
Kind of weird that the whole class wasn't able to overpower him after he explicitly said he was going to kill them all. Fear is a powerful enemy.
kid realized he wasn't the hero of his own story and his entitled ass threw a child's hissifit on an adult scale. it obviously wasn't worth the other lives lost, but I'm glad this scum is no longer with us
this hits so close to home I went into lockdown in my pe class in 8th grade while this shooting happened. I went to preschool at ucc while my mom attended classes. Glad to finally see this case covered ❤
The boy who said, maybe we could've intervened/I couldn't do anything, clearly feels some guilt. It's okay son, you went home alive to your family. No guilt/shame/cowardice in that. Nobody knows what they'd do in same situation, we can talk about being a hero but we don't know until faced with it. Woulda, coulda, shoulda won't change the outcome. Live a purpose-filled life to honor those who didn't make it home. 🕯🙏🏽
It’s horrific but I’ve told my kids if they’re ever anywhere with a shooter to either hide under a body or smear blood on themselves and lay down. Isn’t it devastating that you’ve got to have such a conversation with your children?! What a terrible world we live in!
Been watching for over a decade. I'm so glad you hung on and managed to find happiness on the platform again- you and your content has always been such a comfort to me and I'm sure I wouldn't have been the only one who would miss seeing your videos go up.
Love ya Ken, and thank you for all the videos you've given us! ❤❤
They started this channel 2 years ago 💀 lie again
What a disgusting excuse of life. These shooters are all cowards.
True. That’s why they choose places that won’t fight back.
@@julitakamaki4386thats why you carry even if it says no guns
@julitakamaki4386 yup they're looking for victims not gunfights
I don't carry because " I want to hurt someone" I carry because demons like this "man" exist and if I can save 1 person with my life then all my wasted time won't feel so bad
Big facts!!! That’s exactly why I carry!!
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Same
I feel disgusted that those in that website were rousing the shooter thru comments and tells him to be a legend. Really disgusting
Kinda stuff 4chan would pull. Scum of the earth.
listening to those poor kids calling 911 has me sobbing. those poor babies.
Lol
Despite how sad this is ti watch. EWU is doing a fantastic job at keeping us informed with regular and quality content
The woman giving the details about being in 'Snyder" was amazing. She spoke clear and to the point. Gee, it's almost like she figured it would happen some day.
She was calm, yes. But people who work on campuses are very practiced at telling people how to get to their office.
i mean, with the frequency of school shootings in the US, im sure she wouldve at least had a slight thought itd happen one day
This is it. I've been listening to this channel for a while and this is the one case that brings me to the verge of tears.
This was my school. I was supposed to be there later in the day. So many of my friends were there for it. One of my best friends was shot, he is okay. We all still are UCC strong.
Wow, so many facts I had never even heard of. I know that pawn shop. And that apartment building I'm pretty sure is 2 blocks from my house.
@@ImLunaShesZetawhy didn't you go to school lazy?
Always a great day when EWU drops a video!! 🔥❤️🔥
I don’t think this case is any more twisted than any other. He was just another narcissist with an antisocial personality, who didn’t fit in. But instead of joining groups of young people with similar interests, joining a church (not my thing but it may have helped him), or reaching out to family or a councillor he chose instead to harbour resentment and hatred. They coddle and nurture that resentment until it turns completely black, and then they start formulating their plan. If they can’t get the attention every narcissist desires by doing positive, then they’ll get it by doing negative. And they do. They kill who and what they covet. Other people who to them seemingly have everything they ever wanted. Friends, popularity, a partner, happiness, a job, and in this case, faith. I think in a sense they’re killing that part of themselves that wants and needs those same things, but for whatever reason hadn’t been able to achieve them. And whether they live or die they’ve still committed an emotional suicide. It’s sad for the victims that people like this don’t put in the same effort to address their social awkwardness as they do in planning the murders of innocent people. Or that they don’t just kill themselves. Not that I’m advocating that as a solution, just simply that if they’re going to kill why can’t they limit the death toll to just one: themselves. But for that to happen they might have to actually admit that there’s something wrong with them, instead of there being something wrong with everybody else. But a narcissist will NEVER see it that way, or they wouldn’t be a narcissist.
It's just a category on their page.
In Short: I’m a loser and nobody wants to talk to me so I’m gonna throw a hissy fit
I don't think him joining similar communities would help. The fact he idolized other killers meant he'd only group up with others like him.
Doesn't help that his mother, Laurel, continued to buy him firearms until he essentially collected an entire arsenal... all while knowing he was diagnosed mentally ill and was no longer taking his medication. What a naive and feeble-minded approach to satisfying an unwell child's desires. Very similar to the Adam Lanza/Sandyhook tragedy. I wish these struggling single mothers would get their unstable children help, instead of guns, for f*ck's sake.
School shootings are one of my biggest fears. The pure terror in the voices of the survivors breaks my heart. My worst nightmare is getting a call one day saying one of my siblings ended up in a shooting situation at their school. The US has serious issues.
Treyvons name was not pronounced like that. He gave his last breaths being a body shield for one of the other students. He was a very kind and respectful person. The community of UCC students and families wanted to remember the victims and forget the shooter. There were students who were veterans who acted as human shields against this guy or more would have been lost. The shooter came here from California and was not a member of the community before that summer.
Then tell us how it was pronounced....?
Facts!!! I too am local
If anyone else had a gun besides the killer it couldve gone less bad
@@TheAnnoyingBoss the campus had went to a gun free zone a semester or two before this. Afterwards it’s no longer a gun free zone again. Mass shooters don’t topically pick targets that might be armed and can shoot back. It was a huge mistake by college administration to make it a gun free zone when they did. Thankfully, it’s no longer a soft target and a gun zone again.
@@PNWwonder a private school in my state let all the teachers that wanted to conceal carry after the gun free zone signs failed to stop the shooting at my public school. Many did too
Literally every videos caption says "the most disturbing/twisted case you ever heard" and every single time you deliver.❤❤
out of all the true crime, school shootings are the hardest to hear about..it is DISGUSTING how often they happen too. i graduated 2020 but i was so scared to come to class towards the last couple years bc of how often they happen. its almost normalized t this point bc NOTHING is being done. how fking TERRIFYING this woud be to go through i can not imagine...this is so beyond disturbingly dark, terrifying, and horrible.
It's beautiful that they read all the names at the end. This is a great channel.
Asking if they're christian reminds me of the shooters from colombine and the book "she said yes" about cassie bernall. I feel so bad for everyone who witnessed or was affected by these situations.
Flyleaf wrote the song “Cassie” about that story. I will say Yes.
@@sundaisycake3372 An amazing song, but the actual victim who was asked that question was Valeen Schnurr. It was a mixed-up story for months that it was either Cassie or Rachel who was asked that question until the investigation made it clear it was Valeen who was asked and said yes (who ended up surviving by a miracle).
Omg, when the young man said "i was waitin to die" heart braking, felt the hopeless in those words..... And the guy with the broken voice, so nervous talking so fast... I cant imagine the trauma of this people.... Sad for those who died....
This is honestly sad imagine waking up, you get your kids to school and everything is going well and suddenly you get a call from your kid saying there's a shooter at school and killing people for no reason...
How fucking sick do you have to be to do this? Let alone give “advice” on how to carry out the plan. This is sick and so sad.
Can we give a big up to the 911 operators in this situation? I’ve seen a lot of videos where they sound like they can’t be bothered like you rudely interrupted their social life, but these operators sounded way more concerned and willing to help.
What the actual hell, I've NEVER heard of this...
I call BS on the kid who found the flash-drive; no reasonable person is going to find a bloody manilla envelope, "behind [his] his car", after witnessing a mass pewpew and think, "Oh, I'll just throw this out and turn this drive in to the office staff incase another student lost it", especially since the kid who originally had the envelope said he disposed of it _in_ the trash can.
They had cameras, and since we was not charged with obstructing. I think he is being honest.
@@Masterhitman935naive asf
Literally cried listening to these 911 calls. Can’t even imagine going through this.
Maybe you should get off the internet
This is extremely macabre but a series where you break down shootings like this would be really interesting. Very educational and morbidly entertaining video as always.
*FINALLY* 🙌 a Dispatcher that’s ON IT 🙌 quite possibly THE Dispatcher Hall of FAME QUEEEEEEN 👏 👏 👏
God BLESS her for continuing to REASSURE the terrified kids “LOTS of help is on the way NOW. Lots.”
I've never heard of this story in my life, this school shooting and i've been on youtube everyday for the last decade. I never remember hearing it on the news or anywhere. Dude was nuts.
That poor guy talking about smearing other people’s blood and brains on himself to play dead 😢 my heart breaks for what they’ve all witnessed and experienced 😢
I can’t wait for new videos from EWU. Makes my day.
The online approval of this madness on that site the callers reported, is utterly vile. Every poster affirming this action should be convicted of aiding and abbetting a crime.
All active members should be apprehended, questioned, and put into monitored treatment
@@thefathomsofforteana6624 def and need to be jailed
I endorse Chris paying you a visit.
@@charleslindbergh8222 I endorse you getting out of your moms house and to stop being a virgin, but that's not gonna happen just like Chris paying anyone a visit ever again isn't gonna happen.
@@charleslindbergh8222oh look, another virgin who claims its other people’s fault. Hopefully you’re on a watchlist 🤡
All I know is if he's putting people down I'd rather fight than wait my turn.
Second Amendment.
Use it.
@@randomlyfactual1943 I'd like to bring up the fact the college is a gun free zone, so anybody carrying a gun besides police is commiting a felony and that person according to the 2nd Amendment is a Felon and would lose their right to the 2nd Amendment. So, yeah, I agree, you should be armed as much and as often as possible but when laws are designed to leave you defenseless and the attempt at defending yourself would remove your right to bear arms would you still do it? If you get caught, you're a criminal, and so far the only one with a gun on campus at that moment is you... you're now the "potential active shooter"
I'm sure some of the victims had the same mindset as you. It's hard to make that statement. Fear can change you. Reaching out to fight might also put everyone around you in danger if the shooter misfires. You never really know how you would react unless you were actually in a situation like that
And yet tell me why getting therapy for mental health issues in the US is more difficult and expensive than access to weapons… like I’m out here using my student loan money for my meds and learning how to become my own therapist, fam. Not everyone has that kind of choice though. It just breaks my heart. Sending so much healing and peace to any and all that were impacted by this tragedy.
What a horrible feeling, being in terror like that, knowing that you were probably going to be killed. Talk about traumatic.
I’m starting community college today, and I can’t lie, this kind of thing is in the back of my mind
This is in my town crazy. Graduated there a year or two before
I had many classes in that same writing class
RIP to the 9 victums and their families. He had to be a very sad and distured man. I wish someone sought him help behave he got to that point. Such a sad terrible story.
Sounds like there was no helping him. His own mother said he was "born angry"
I have a 9, 6, and 2 year old. I started crying listening to the students' and parents' police calls. This happens too often in this country, I honestly wonder why I still choose to live here sometimes.
Leave, coward
I hope these kids parents can find comfort in the fact that their children are with their Heavenly Father now. I’m a new mom and I can’t imagine the devastation I would feel if anyone even tried to harm my baby!
The athiest whi claims their is no god in this story clearly believed in satan and he killed so many people that in only a few generations it would be like losing a small town
He didn’t have to wait to go to Hell to “be a demon.” He already chose to be.
This is horrific 😢
I have only watched your true crime channel. I had no idea you were struggling the way you were. With that said I am so proud of you and I can’t wait to go through your journey with you on your second channel. I will be watching that today and will keep you in my thoughts. I also wanted to congratulate you on your move as well. You’re amazing. 💕💕💕💕💕
I appreciate the message you had at the end about the victims.
May the shooter receive the afterlife he deserves.
As one of my greatest fears is mass shootings, this is one video I had to stop watching before I was 5 minutes in. I hope one day I will live somewhere that this is not a constant, active threat every time I leave my home.
Congratulations, your wish has been granted. It's not a constant, active threat every time you leave your home. It's very rare (thankfully).
It IS a constant threat in the US but NOT in other Western Countries @@kwakester
@@philster6383well Phil, just lock yourself in your house, close the curtains and stew. Life itself is dangerous, so just don't participate.
Dude, stop living in a bubble. The liberal media got you so brainwashed that you're scared of something that rarely happens. I'm an Asian who's in his early 40s. I grew up in a rough area full of gang activities and 3 blocks from the projects. I've witness a lot of drive by shootings or heard of it across from my friend's porch that has a view of the projects. Never once have I've been shot at or involved in a shooting. You know why, it doesn't happen often, and a lot of them stem from gang violence. You stay away from gangs and your chances of being in a mass shooting is slim to none. Stop being such a brainwashed liberal. 330 million people in this country and one of your greatest fear is something the media has pushed as propaganda. You should be more worried about the gang violence and weak criminal systems plaguing big cities.
@@philster6383 Constant threat? Where? I'm in my 40s and never been in one. Keep believing the media. Most shootings are gang violence but people like you are too scared to talk about it.
Never heard if this shooting before, and this was my graduating year, glad to see he didn't get the fame and infamy he wanted
Look up Christopher Sean Harper-Mercer's parents and you'll figure out why this didn't get news coverage.
He was a racist against white folks.
@@ArshesNei8a Trump/gun loving black mother.
One of my very best friends and I love these videos! We would always answer the phone "whats up ewooo?" and we really enjoyed talking about the crazy stories...
He died last spring and i really miss him! These videos bring him back in a little way, so thank you
I just wanna add that i typed that post at the beginning of this video... this is such a horrific story of yet another tragedy caused by mental illness. I probably would have used slightly different wording had i typed it AFTER watching! I was relishing over the quality of these EWU productions, not relishing the tragedy....
And some people dont want kids to have cell phones at school. They worked together using different callers to locate the shooter...pretty cool
I cannot help but to put myself in those people's shoes. I know their last thoughts were of their parents and loved ones as they met their fate, only wishing to tell them one last time how much they were loved. 😢
Nah it's probably pure fear and if they'll make it or not
It’s 2023 and I don’t know why we don’t have a panic button in every school that not only sends a distress signal to authorities, but can also lock every single room on campus!
Unfortunately, we hear about school shootings pretty regularly in todays society, but unlike everything else, I cannot seem become numb to it. It’s just as harrowing every single time! 😭
Imagine getting locked in a room with a shooter because someone else (elsewhere) hit the button…
because in theory, it sounds like a good idea. but imagine if someone pressed it during a fire or any other type of emergency? people automatically being locked inside a room by a panic button anyone could click is just not a good idea.
UCC's lockdown procedure did lock our doors immediately so you couldn't get in from the outside.
No mention of Chris Mintz? As an Oregonian, I think that it’s a major part of the story, and one that deserves to be told.
This is good, perhaps now ull see this channel is here to push the msm big pharma narrative "mental health"
Hes not here to be positive or highlight good only negative n create division.
Who’s that?
@@auntymurda Chris is an Army vet who was a student at Umpqua at the time. When he heard the attack, he ran up and down the halls, pulling alarms and telling people to get out of the school. Instead of running to safety, he ran back towards his own class and when he seen the shooter coming towards his class, he blocked the door w/ his body. He was shot seven times through the door, but continued to block it. He saved countless lives.
@@zachariah9739 JESUS!!! He was a hero. God rest his soul. Omg
@@auntymurda My fault, I didn’t mention that Chris actually survived! He is alive and well today, but he has definitely paid an enormous cost for his heroism that day.
Can we take a second to appreciate the dispatchers? They were so comforting and calm, weren’t demanding when it came to info and put the victims and potential victims first at all times. Fucking brilliant job.