Somehow the guy on probation leaving jugs of blood, drugs, and a gun in plain view while smoking meth as cops pound on the door isn't the dumbest person there.
Not only did they mess up the evidence, but WHY did they let the family members stay in the house and become more and more traumatized as they uncovered things??? Cops may be somewhat desensitized to this kind of stuff but i feel like MOST normal people don’t see these things in their day to day lives….
The way she questioned “how did they miss that?” While crying is so heartbreaking nobody should experience this, is so traumatizing, and the fact that instead of taking them out of the house to question them he let them standing there on the scene, the way they’re doing the police job and he just standing watching them. 😢
1. Just imagine what dat guy was about to get away with if the mother hadn't called the officers back😮 2. What if the family members were on that guy's side? and since the officers stepped out (w/out securing the scene), the family members got rid of evidence??
I SOBBED immediately when I heard her say that. 😔 Thats a mom who just started day number one of her PTSD journey. She is going to have a very long path to healing from seeing all of this. Families are one of the forgotten victims to horrendous crimes like this. Especially this family - their loved one killed another family member. Heartbreaking. Gut wrenching. Rest in peace, Eddie. 💔💔 I hope your family finds peace, healing, and justice.
To have a family member take gloves and search the vents and stuff for them… unforgivable. That’s not for an everyday person to do. Not only did they traumatize that poor sister beyond compare, but the contamination is unmatched
@@camicrandel3177 well if you grow up with someone, you tend to know where they'll hide stuff. Like my brother hid behind an access panel in my closet when I told him to hide from our dad. He still finds comfort in small spaces and tiny things. I know if he's upset, he'll be in the closet under the stairs.
@@camicrandel3177facts, I was thinking the same thing. But if you also think, why would she snitch on herself. I’m pretty sure she was investigating the whole crib once she saw the blood in the bottles then especially after she saw the gore in the buckets. She started to overthink and she had a bad feeling it was maybe her missing cousin.
It’s not that serious. Your opinion that she’s traumatized is a complete assumption. You shouldn’t assume how others feel because that’s projecting how you would feel.
My grandmother was a blood spatter pattern analysis expert, was one of the first to every crime scene in her county. She would have been outraged at how this crime scene was handled. This is why we need competent police officers, because it's this kind of incompetence that allows doubt into the courtroom.
@@dudeguymap my thoughts 100%. quite literally having a hard time even watching because of how horribly this was handled. the fact the family was able to access the home after his arrest is where it all began.
we can only have competent cops with better instruction and a better justice system tht doesnt allow crime to be commited so openly with no consequences bc of "evidence" or the way it was obtained......when a system is so flawed every link in the chain will be just useless
@@lildead6oy460 literally. the fact that this can happen and the fact that the case could also be thrown out because of it is just insane in both aspects
Tbh as someone who’s lived in Alamogordo, this is EXACTLY something the police department would do. They’re inept in many aspects of their police work, they need new training and leadership.
@@jenniwilliams3295 it's crazy! They handled everything wrong. I don't get how you can search a house and miss so much stuff that was literally in plain view. I guess that's where the saying "hiding in plain sight" comes in 🤷🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️
I'm only half way through the video and it's insane how bad they're handled the crime scene. Letting family members search the house and touch everything?!?!
the fact that he was trying to tell the cops & they just thought he was having some kind of episode is crazy. that’s why you need to LISTEN to people when they talk. even when the female cop asked what is it that you’re talking about , he still was trying to take them to the room & show them. we have 2 ears & 1 mouth for a reason.
They certainly lacked all listening skills and seemed to be adamant on following protocol. You can chew gum and walk at the same time. They should have listened to him while following whatever arrest protocol. I’m so sorry for the family and this guy needed psychological help a long time ago. I wish during the Regan Administration, they never stopped funding to the states for psychiatric care. In this day and age, in order to get good mental care you have to be well off with money or in a good paying job with insurance, however the US does not have the facilities they used to have.
@@robinlee9272you're right, the closing of the institutions "Greyhound Therapy". They unceremoniously dumped patients in the middle of City's across the country. The result was an explosion of homeless people as never seen in this country. These poor souls don't belong on the streets or in jail.
Steven was already trying to prove he was innocent before they even went into the residence. After the officers enter the home, they walk past two different weapons. Then, 9:40 he said that he ”wanted to kill him“ and he starts telling them that they are gonna find “stuff“ in the house that will make him look guilty. How in the world did the police just disregard this, even though he was on drugs?
I feel they just thought he was talking about the drug stuff and the gun that he wasn't supposed to have on him. The trailer was.trally messy when they went in to get him. My brother is just like Steven. He was diagnosed schizophrenic as a child and then into adulthood he got on meth and is so hard to deal with and understand what my brother would be talking about. But what really gets me is the cops walk back in the house and those other guns are still sitting in the house. Like how tf does this actually happen right? How do the cops not take all the weapons out and check them? I almost wanna say there was some extreme laziness going on.
@@froggynzack Im sorry about your brother, my dad has Sociopathy (ASPD) and was a heavy alcoholic. He stabbed himself in the stomach once saying demons were after him, so I know how terrifying it can be, especially since invisible disorders/illnesses are hard to treat + be very hard to cope with as a family member. I geniunely hope you know you're not alone. I do AL-ANON meetings and those help a lot, you can join the phone meetings, and we welcome people who haven't only had alcoholic parents since there's room for us all. I struggled really hard getting my parents sober and watching a HS friend go to jail for meth. Im so thankful they're all sober now. People never know whats happening behind closed doors.
I heard that too! I’m sitting here half listening and loadin a bowl when I heard that I’m like pause Wubba wtf did that police just say? Lol it’s not funny it’s horrifying I guess I am kinda nervous chuckling bc my brain is like yeah no I’m not computing that bullshit lol ❤❤
@@Urfavdwplayer IKR, We All Felt The Same Way,,,Like WTF Sarge,,,I Jolled One Up When I Watched This As Well Just Makes These Vids A Whole Lot Bettter To Watch💚👌🏼👌🏼
I did more research into it and a person that went to school with the victim said the town isn’t large but small which now makes sense why the officers were not very concerned
😂😂😂😂 I should not be laughing but like WTF!??!?! With all the serious, gruesome items being shown he gets excited over a DOG while this poor sister is crying her eyes out!!! Like is he 5??
Seemed like Steven wanted to take them down the hall and show them something. Also, when the officer came back and was shown the bottles of blood, why didn’t he immediately take the family member out the house to preserve what was at least left of the crime scene. This is almost like a training video of what exactly NOT to do at a crime scene. Those poor family members. 🤦🏽♂️
The craziest thing to me is that him killing someone seems to be the family members’ FIRST conclusion. Not that he got hurt or that maybe it was animal blood or smth. Idk it just seems like they had some underlying feeling that he was unstable enough to hurt someone if that’s the first place their mind went upon finding blood.
his reputation doesnt exactly warrant tears of shock his past is full of violent out bursts idk whats worst the family's shock or the his handled evidence
She & her mom is suspicious as hell. How tf are they finding all the remains in different rooms. 9:40 Steven says he wanted to unalive him & wanted to show cop something. But said the cop might find something that can make HIM look Guilty.
I mean, even an occasional watcher of forensic files knows if you think someone’s been murdered you need to secure the scene. I swear some of these cops went to officer doofys school of policing
I was shocked to find out that depending on the country, cops get barely a year of training, usually much less than that, beofre being put to work. Seems like the training here waa about 2 minutes.
Im racist for talking about it, duh. Literal cold war ongoing and people act like they just gpt released from the garden of eden. A bunch of lazy neighbor forgetters.
When the cops were on scene the first time, he uttered "they had a gun to my head." Why didn't they ask _who_ had a gun to his head? He wanted to show them, to explain. Whenever someone seems a little off to me but wants to show and explain things, I just let them. You'd be surprised the kinda honesty people can have when in that state. Could've saved so much time. I feel so bad for his family. They all deserved better.
And they ignored the statement of the sober guy who said other people shot the poor deceased man and left his strung up cousin to clean up because he was family. I hope they are least investigated that. Tragic situation.
That part he sounded crazy so they probably thought it was drug talk. They dont see any "they" so they probably think he's hallucinating. They shouldve listened when he said kill though, but they probably thought it was all crazy talk.
@@genericyoutubenameee+1. Anyone who has experience nce with meth heads knows that they will talk nonstop and say the craziest shit. My sister did every kind of drug, but it wasn't until she tried meth that her mind truly fractured. She barely remembered who I was. Couldn't complete a fully formed sentence for something like ten years. She's been off meth now for about 5 years and she still struggles but is doing much better. Only thing more tragic than a junkie's death is their life. My cousin's husband stabbed his own mother to death after smoking meth. Don't do drugs kids.
@@HowieRaps It's more likely that most people commenting on youtube videos are smart or logical. Look one comment up and you see a completely rational explanation.
They mishandled this from start to finish, but if they passed on smelling decaying remains, then they are completely inept. It's unmistakable. Makes me wonder...what were the officers actually looking for by "searching" there????????
One of them even commented that the place "smells" and they didn't investigate further. But to answer your question, drugs. They were worried about drugs and that's all.
I figured. But even then, they didn't really investigate any containers either or dig into anything. I thought maybe they were looking for kidnapped females. That's where my mind went as I watched them "search". @@annehaight9963
25:53 That is NOT ADHD. Zoning out for a bit here and there is one thing. Needing an entire day to accomplish a single errand because you keep forgetting what you're doing and walking into and out of the same store is an ENTIRELY differently. This is like looking at someone who's impaled and being like "hm these symptoms sound like a splinter."
@@-vizer-5737 I heard that. And it changes nothing. He was concerned enough to call his sergeant and have the authorities come back. If he even suspects it might be blood then he should have stopped letting the family root around in there and closed off the potential crime scene. He doesn't have to know for sure beyond a shadow of a doubt before taking action :S Your comment was rude. You can disagree with someone without being an @ss about it.
@@angellayaright9009 It's interesting to me that you say I shouldn't be rude, as if 90% of these comments are saying nasty things and being extremely rude, but you go for the one who has a different opinion than yours. Shocker.
People need to give his sister a break she was trying to help and these cops were the ones who were being incompetent and allowed them to contaminant the scene. The officers are allowing his family member to continue to be horribly traumatized, which was so unnecessary . They did way more work than the cops did. Such incompetence.
It’s always easier to blame everyone but the killer/rap*st/actual perpetrator these days. People would rather attack an innocent woman (his sister) than hold Steven accountable for his actions.
The dude literally said "I wanted to kill him, and what you're gonna find here will make me look guilty" and this didn't make them look for a body lmao. What the hell.
That gun handling was worse than complacency. That's an incompetent cop and a weapons instructor who signed off on someone who has no business in the profession. It's rot from the inside out.
@@Jake-gu7oo Really? I hope that isn't the case and find that hard to believe . Bicycles can enter the 'blind zone' of drivers who can't see them. My point? You don't make a good case to make your point imo. These cops need to be 'retrained' to observe, record and report v putting their paws all over the evidence at a crime scene. Same thing happened at the Ramsey girl's murder scene and why that can hasn't been solved. 'townie cops' are yahoo's and not as educated nor as trained as state and federal cops. Stupid is what stupid does and there's too much nepotism at the townie police departments = incompetence and corruption
I study forensic for 3 years in high school and one of the first things they taught me was to remove everyone from a crime scene to not ruin evidence, this is so shocking how badly this whole situation was handled.
It's crazy to hear him say all the stuff he's saying knowing why he's saying it when the cops have no clue.... "I wanna prove my innocence" and " I had to get it all out of me" ... "My cousin has a history"
*There is MORE to this story* From the beginning, 1:19 He doesn't open the door when his *mom & sis* asking him to come out & *banging on the door ###* he kept shouting "close the door(sis mom is outside), let me prove my innocence close the door" , to saying cop that "he is not guilty" , 7:14after cop goes deeper into his house, he says "no no no no no it might make him look guilty" & he kept rejecting that "it's not his fault", while they still haven't even found the body(while his "detective" sister still haven't shown the police, the "capped" "blood" bottle) 9:00 "It smells" 9:32 "Let me prove my innocence-" 9:39 "I know *THEY* did some of this" "they *even did* some-" "Of *this stuff* when I first got into the scene" "And I wanted to unalive him" (he is being honest, but he didn't unalive the cousin) "I did not wanted to risk my life and let that happen again" 10:36 *###* "I thought you are gonna unalive me bro" "why did they let *them* (mom & sis) bang on the window" "you know what I mean" What he meant *They* = Mom & Sis "I was like I'm not gonna risk my life, and all these lives" "can you shut the door *so I could show you?* _" 11:23 "No I have to *show you because I am not-* _ 12:07" That I am innocent because they kept on denying me, It's my fault I panicked, *But THEY had a gun to my head* _" 27:04 "my cousin is dead" 31:13 I think that *They = mom & sis* or could be someone else
This is just insane, that he continues to let the family members touch things, clean things, walk around, when he suspects there is a jug of blood on the counter. I'm not even a police officer and would know to leave the house and call homicide if someone was missing and there was blood in the house.
This is a very small town and highly unlikely to even have a 'homicide division'. Typically they might have 1 slightly more qualified officer or sgt that they would call for this, tho these officers and all their superiors are highly under-trained, under-experienced, and unqualified for the job... and I wouldn't put much more faith in the designated 'homicide officer'. Really the state police should be handling this, tho these officers entirely botched up the scene and the evidence. Former LEO, now retired.
@@jaydub2546 Sharpen up on your reading comprehension. I never said a homicide division is always needed for every homicide case. A homicide division may be 2 detectives on small departments or 50 or more detectives on large departments. However many homicide cases are very complex and do require numerous detectives and resources to fully investigate and gather/analyze evidence on a particular homicide case. I can easily see that you have absolutely zero experience in even minor case handling, let alone homicides.
@@markstone1619 You would think the basics of what to look for on any call and how to preserve a crime scene would be taught to every single officer. Not just homicide investigators. No need to be a snarky jerk.
@@angellayaright9009 You miss a lot then put false accusations on the wrong person. The real "snarky jerk' was the person I was repllying to, who said to me "police don't need a homicide division that's just an easy cop ou".
I am not only shocked at how they handled the crime scene. But i'm more appalled that they let the family members see all of that. Police are supposed to keep the general public from seeing things like that...
you are actually a toddler man. "They let the family members see that stuff" yea sure, as if they didn't find it before the cops did, and as if the sister wasn't actively trying to help the police search the house... you have to be on more drugs than steven was on to post this
@-vizer-5737 typically after something like this, depending on the situation the police can recommend a "Disaster Restoration" Company to clean stuff up. If they can't afford it and/or don't have insurance, usually "Victim Services" can help. Most would've been taken as evidence. A lot of people have to move after something like this because of the trauma they experienced in it, or of just knowing what happened there. I think you need patience and forethought, grasshopper. Have a great day! 🙂
Should the family have to continue to do what the cops are paid to do??? Use your brain..tbh you don’t even have a brain if a toddler you have the brain of an ant.
No I dont think they were hiding that. In the first call all the chaos was focused on Stevens psychosis and risk of harm to himself and others. The family was more than cooperative, especially considering the absolutely terrible circumstances. The officers were completely clueless and majorly distracted.
That cop literally made those women do something even he himself wasn't supposed to be doing. If they act like this and miss the obvious stuff, imagine how unreliable they really are.
And how many other crime scenes did they miss? If the mother and sister were dishonest or valued their family member's freedom over justice, then the cops would have been none the wiser. This crime scene literally slapped them across the face and they still needed civilians to walk them through it.
The more I watch these American horror true stories the more I KNOW they don't know what they're doing, when you have a decent police department you notice other countries and thank god you're an Aussie
@@clearlyseverely3155 for real! "Here, you can have this clearly not okay young boy back to finish off since you claim he's your lover!" So sick and so incredibly stupid!
I was an RA at a university, and we had a student who stored his semen, blood, urine, and feces in water bottles in his room mini fridge. He was immediately kicked out of student housing after an investigation. Some people are just sick, sick puppies.
I went to school with the victim and he was a very stand up guy he always had your back no matter what everyone and anyone who knew him got along with him r.i.p Eddie aka Shadow. It saddens me how bad the cops are so bad here in our little town condolences again to family to have to go through that!
@@a.nobodys.nobody that's crazy cause I know all about what happened and all but I watch all ewu videos and it was random I know his aunt in the video and all. I'm also in a very small town but crime is bad here.
I know! perhaps in a previous arrest his lawyer told him to do that (?). In the majority of all these EWU video analyses, people just keep talking and say dumb things like, "should I get a lawyer?" or "I think I might need to talk with a lawyer, but not yet..." which makes even worse sense than if you just sat there and said nothing.
@@suburbantrapqueen y’all dumb. If you’re guilty, no need for lawyer. Just admit and accept your deserved punishment. Lawyers should only protect innocent people. Not criminals
@@truehappiness4U It's not by any means dumb to try and get out of a bad situation if available. Is it morally right? No, but it is still understandable that the one being incarcerated would at least want a lawyer to ensure that even if they lose the case they can get a lighter sentence
How did nobody notice the smell of death coning from that closet with the plastic totes? Bodies start to stink within a few hours. Blood smells very distinct & also would start rotting whithin a day. That closet had to reek of death. The initial cops on the scene were just so hyper focused on finding drugs they missed an entire dismembered, rotting corpse.
As someone who grew up with a meth head dad not unlike Steven (there is a reason I am NC and was in foster care) I know what meth smells like, unfortunately, and it smells sweet. Sickly sweet and rotten, not unlike the smell of death/rotting meat. At least to me, that's what it smelled like when he or my mom would smoke with me in the room. So I wouldn't be surprised if the meth smell was overpowering at first, especially as they mentioned there was still smoke when they first open the door. Not defending these cops though, they seriously messed up this whole thing and almost could have let a murderer go free. They need retraining asap.
If they don't know how to handle these type of crimes, they should have just cleared the home and taped off the crime scene and called in the professionals. What a bunch of dense cops.
The worst part is that they just let the family investigate and find the victim pieces by pieces while casually talking to them like they are coworkers.
Poor Eddie was already suicidal and suffering from addiction to alcohol and severe health issues from being hit by the semi. And then he gets murdered. So awful. That poor man.
@@DestinySunday-ul7bb I believe his family said that he had recently made statements that he wanted to die and/ or end his life. I mean, things already weren’t going great for him and then he gets grievously injured getting hit by the semi and already has an addiction. I’m not at all surprised he would feel that way. I’d wanna give up too. Poor guy. And then that happens to him. Some people’s lives are so incredibly sad.
@@r.r.9282 did you even read what I wrote? I said it was sad he was feeling that way already and going through so much and then was murdered. Have you ever experienced homelessness and addiction and being horrifically injured in a car accident? My guess is probably not. You have no idea the depths of human misery or else you wouldn’t say something so judgmental. There are plenty of valid reasons to feel like ending your life. Just because you have some absurd religious reasons that say it’s a sin or whatever doesn’t negate the fact that existing can be pure torture for some.
Addiction is seriously such a huge deal in our country. It's taking over and I wish we could get people the help they need BEFORE things like this happen. It's so sad and insane how bad it is. My mom and sister have both struggled with addiction. It's so awful to see someone you love going through something so horrible. I really hate it so much.
These guys are legit dumber than the students in my field investigation course at the junior college level. We, at least, already had an interest in the science of forensic investigation and some background in personal study.
*PLEASE READ THIS POV* From the beginning, 1:19 He doesn't open the door when his *mom & sis* asking him to come out & *banging on the door ###* he kept shouting "close the door(sis mom is outside), let me prove my innocence close the door" , to saying cop that "he is not guilty" , 7:14after cop goes deeper into his house, he says "no no no no no it might make him look guilty" & he kept rejecting that "it's not his fault", while they still haven't even found the body(while his "detective" sister still haven't shown the police, the "capped" "blood" bottle) 9:00 "It smells" 9:32 "Let me prove my innocence-" 9:39 "I know *THEY* did some of this" "they *even did* some-" "Of *this stuff* when I first got into the scene" "And I wanted to unalive him" (he is being honest, but he didn't unalive the cousin) "I did not wanted to risk my life and let that happen again" 10:36 *###* "I thought you are gonna unalive me bro" "why did they let *them* (mom & sis) bang on the window" "you know what I mean" What he meant *They* = Mom & Sis "I was like I'm not gonna risk my life, and all these lives" "can you shut the door *so I could show you?* _" 11:23 "No I have to *show you because I am not-* _ 12:07" That I am innocent because they kept on denying me, It's my fault I panicked, *But THEY had a gun to my head* _" 27:04 "my cousin is dead" 31:13 I think that *They = mom & sis* or could be someone else
@@mozzrchik that's what I was thinking...not making excuses for all the other mistakes, but that second-hand meth smoke apparently causes immediate headaches or nausea, and it was in a closed up house that already stunk. Could be why they wanted him outside so badly, to escape the smoke
Why does it always seem like the suspect has to have a crazy amount of convictions before they're sent to prison i mean these are dangerous people and should be treated as such and more people are getting hurt in the process
Because there are a lot of people in the legal and "justice" industries dedicated to making sure criminals are protected from the evils of the system. So many criminal defense lawyers, DAs and NGOs dedicated to helping support criminals and criminal activity.
Cause it's actually hard to put someone away for 10 plus years. Lots of paper work, court, explain case 100 times to people. U sit in jail 5 years till they ready. Then they pay for your housing.
Because it costs millions of dollars to house these inmates and people keep voting out taxes being raised to put more money into these institutions. But wait, Americans don’t like taxes, so instead they just complain instead of fixing the problem they are given an option to. 🤡
@@felix-ve8jk There are thousands of innocent people put in prison every year and hundreds of people *from death row* have been cleared of the crimes *they were almost put to death for!* Most of them are there because the police and the DA hid or manufactured evidence. Yet here you are, complaining because people actually have rights and an infinitesimal chance against a behemoth that is designed to crush them! They aren't there to let criminals walk, *they're there to make sure the right person goes to prison or to the afterlife!*
It's New Mexico police. I watch a ton of bodycam videos and you can tell from their conduct they are poorly trained and there is a culture of trashy immaturity.
Hurts to hear the aunt say she wanted him to get help as a child. THERE WAS CLEAR SIGNS. He needed help years ago. I feel awful for his mother but the fact she could have prevented his drug use or even this killing by giving her son the care he clearly needed hurts. Mental health matters so much yall, even the right therapy or treatment in childhood could do so much in the long run.
Getting mental health help for children isn't that easy. My niece but herself til she bled. Apparently that's not "the right kind" of self harm so no help. And that's in the UK. Parents paid private. I can't imagine what it's like getting in the US when you're likely to lose your home if you get cancer.
@@nicolajackson7992 agree, getting quality mental health for anyone can be difficult if you don't know how to navigate the system. There are a lot of phony facilities that don't really help, or facilities that require health insurance. And while 1-800 help lines are OK for a stop-gap immediate need, that's not therapy. Therapy is expensive.
"she could have prevented his drug use or even the killing" - you are absolutely unfair to his mother, laying all the blame on her. As if it was so easy - just a call to a therapist and !bam! like magical Steven gets a new personality. Other parents have tried therapy after therapy, have tried and fought and pleaded for decades - and still lost their kids to drugs. And often these were children with a normal intelligence, from a normal upbringing. Whilst those who are aggressive and violent from early on, who attack others with knives, often end up really bad, no matter what was tried on them. Psychopaths cannot be healed, only supervised. And at one point, the child turns 18 and his parents have no longer the right to interfere with his life.
@@Louise-u3wMy brother was a meth addict and a clinical psychopath. You are absolutely correct. My parents outright had to neglect me most of my childhood to pour all their love, money, attention and time into him, his therapy, his care, etc. & he still died at 23 from fentanyl after being an abusive monster to all of us for years on end. Some people just don’t want to be helped, and you can’t blame the rest of the world for it.
It was so eerie to me when the mother led the officer in the house to the bottles of blood while being completely silent. That part creeped me out the most.
I can't imagine finding pieces of a human being. The very vague, blurry record of the discovery here is haunting enough. I don't know that I'd ever get over finding it in person.
What's especially crazy is how articles covering this case seem to try to make the officers seem far more competent than they are. They even claim the officers found the containers on the counter on the first visit and then came back later with a warrant.
All media is owned by just three companies in the US, and those three companies are owned by the same people. And those people need to lie every second of every day to hide themselves and their deeds. Remember Ep stein.
It's amazing how incompetent those cops are. Let's be real here: Everyone, who's ever watched a movie or series with police in it knows, how to handle a situation like that. You instantly pick up the basics. Or you watch EWU on a regular basis 😎 But those officers seem to lack any kind of preparation whatsoever. They seemed to have been picked up of the street where they stood and just thrown in front of this trailer. "This is your task: Find out what's wrong here. The man inside will give you a lot of hints to help you out" And they just went: "Nah... I can do this on my own, thanx"
I know right? The whole situation is like a final exam at a detective school that these guys failed spectacularly. It even reminds me of a crime scene test I was given in a low level criminology class. The instructor created a fake crime scene for us to investigate and played the roles of the suspects and bystanders for us to question.
this is what happens when you lower the standards or dont require adequate training. Look at the situation in Illinois where a federal lawsuit was filed for wrongful death because a woman cop could of and should of used her taser on a woman running towards another officer with a large kitchen knife and he had to shoot her even though he told the woman cop to use non lethal before the situation, told her to pull out her taser (she didnt) and then taze the woman attacking him with the knife but she doesnt and she just stands there watching the situation.
Yeah. The officers were clearly operating under tunnel vision bc just having drugs and a few guns doesnt add up to his comments. Its like no one stopped to question his statements. A simple "And why are you saying that" would have probably been enough
I feel horrible for this poor family. You can even beg the courts to force a loved with a mental crisis into a psychiatric facility but You have to wait till the person becomes a danger to themselves or others, the very thing you are trying to prevent. Just heartbreaking
@@Khvg-e4l look up the exposés that caused most of them to be shut down in the 70s and 80s those places were absolutely horrible where people with relatively mild learning disabilities or more severe anxiety or depression were lobotomized and mixed in with people who were dangerous, they would not care for the patients at all and let the ones who couldnt care for themselves sit in piles of their own shit, many of the patients being children. we need more empathetic mental health services, even people who go to the psych ward because theyre suicidal are still mistreated by staff and taunted, verbally abused, sexually exploited, and more. you may think it best to shove these people to the outskirts of society because you dont want to see them or hear about it, but these dark sides of society are like a cancer that will spread until someday they might reach someone you love who just needs help but instead only gets ridiculed and abused. have some compassion.
@@Khvg-e4l there was an awful lot of abuse in mental asylums which was pretty much just a place for throw aways. What these ppl need is good psychiatric care and correct medication and case workers trained in the field of psychiatry.
As an ex user of meth, the psychosis that comes from it is no joke. The things you see and hear makes the reality you thought you knew just get flipped on it’s head. It lasts for days, weeks, even months. Even compared to acid or shrooms, those do not compare to the hallucinations you have while being on a binge. I got 3 years clean, still have all my teeth 😂
I remember Jessie on Breaking Bad paranoid about everyone outside his house, like mailman and JWs. It didn't come off as bad as what you're saying though. Is it so addictive that being terrified from it won't make you stop? :(
Psychosis is hard enough to live through on its own, i cannot imagine the hell of that experience alongside addiction alone, especially meth. Well done on getting clean i hope you're doing okay
OMG! I know Alamogordo is a small city in New Mexico, but you can’t tell me that these officers were not trained in evidence collection and securing a scene. Everybody watching this right now, including me, is screaming at their devices “back out of there, get the family out of there, quit touching evidence!“ Holy moly!
It's so frustrating seeing such incompetency, as a forensics graduate. What they did while doing their search is called tunnel-visioning, and as such, they only narrowed their search to what they wanted to find (likely drugs and drug paraphernalia). A proper search looks through the wide scope of the property and looks at *everything* for other potential evidence. Also massive rule of thumb, when doing a search, nobody else is supposed to be around in case other potential evidence is tampered with or even disposed of. Super careless cops.
I’ve watched a few crime scene tv shows and I know you don’t walk around touching things. Congratulations on graduating, it’s a very interesting career that’s for sure. The police were totally incompetent.
@@doreenblatz2440 cheers. And yeah, absolutely, even with gloves, you don't touch things. You take photos of the evidence in it's natural state, as well as the surroundings from 3-4 angles. You gotta put your curiosity aside for these things and not fiddle with the items
My mind is blown... I'm just a regular shmegular with no training(aside from EWU lmao) and I was like, "no, omg!!" Why is he letting them do that?? Why is he doing that??" I seriously cannot believe it. This is scary
Living in New Mexico, this is exactly the incompetence you see from APD and many other sheriffs in the whole state. So sad to see them doing the cops job in pure distraught
I watched 7 videos on this channel and and 5 of them were in NM. The state is awful. As for the incompetent police, just watch the Texaco child abuse video. That sheriff should be locked up.
13:28 when she said “how did they miss that” and showed that horror on the kitchen counter, it made my blood run cold. *how do they, how do they actually miss that shit?!?!*
Unfortunately, situations like this aren't just an issue for the prosecutors. Dudes family was just trying to help, while also being in shock and if it effected the case, they will have to live with that forever and all because of poor proto, that's terribly sad imo
You do realize you can get D’s all through high school and become a cop right? Like being a cop is one of the easiest jobs to obtain, and requires so little education that this is what happens because of it
Love how the family (who shouldn't have even been walking through the scene at all,) had to actually _tell_ the cops where to look, and what was there. Legally speaking, they contaminated the scene, but they were clearly more on the ball than the cops were.
The first cops didn't see the evidence. They're stupid for it, yes, but the family clearly didn't either until the cops left, because they didn't say a word until then. Even if they knew about it when the cops were there, why didn't they say anything? So keep bashing on the cops for not seeing it, when the family who literally lives in the house didn't either. When the family discovered it, they told the cops where it was. How is that a bad thing? At all? Would you rather her keep quiet and let him get away with murder? Legally speaking, yes they did contaminate the scene, I agree. The cops could have handled this so much better, but it really all comes down to the cops didn't see the evidence at first, neither did the family, the cops left, the family found it, called the cops, and somehow the cops did something wrong by not having better eye sight than the family who literally lives there.
I think the comment is saying that’s is crazy how the family had to do the police’s job for them. And clearly the family doesn’t live there, they showed up to do a welfare check with the parole officers, trying to see if he was ok.
That’s a training video par excellence! Carried out by real Officers, on a real call out, in a real place, with no actors playing the other parts. And, a real Sergeant Officer Bloke, who doesn’t know what to do! Great police work guys!
It's unbelievable to me that they did not check the fridge/freezer, any of the totes/storage bins, nor anything that could be used in such an evil crime. Also, no one who has committed m*rder especially gruesome should ever be charged with less than 1st degree m*rder!
Damn I used to hang out with Steven as kids, my condolences to his mother and family. From the loss of her brother to all the other family members they have lost. I hope they find peace
Not even a few hrs after my best friend and another friends double murder, they released the house to his next of kin and they allowed a bunch of us to go in and grab different things from their rooms that meant something to us, coagulated blood still in both place, the outline of a head in the blood. Yeah I couldn’t freaking believe it. They released it soooo soon.
The police can't legally keep people from their own property after the evidence has been gathered. Tbs, some LEOs are more thorough than others. Clean up is outside their duties. There may be victim assistance of some type depending on jurisdiction, though.
Am I the only one that thinks there are others involved? Not only did Steven say "they had a gun to my head" but the guy in the interview mentions "they were on post" as if he knew more about what was going on. I think something happened and Steven was caught up in it and forced to deal with the mess or else find himself in a bucket. I have no doubt he was involved but I seriously think there was more people involved that are walking free.
If only they let him speak when he was high in his house. He was about to tell everything. He kept saying "they", "they offered me", "I'm innocent", "my cousin has a history", "they did some of this", "they even did some of this when I first got into the scene", "and I wanted to kill them that's why I did not want to risk my life and let that happen again"
Highly doubt it... There's no evidence to suggest someone else involved. Infact, we can clearly seen all of their family members are the one who concern and distraught throughout the interaction. The only suggestion/idea you have is coming from Steven super ambigous and inchorent comment. Which is, frankly, coming from Paranoia Addict, is hardly hold any weight.
@@dalfifran7572 It has a metric tonne of weight. Knowing full well what people are capable of in the drug world. They use people like this more than you know.
@@MrKingglenn So you're making assumption and pure speculation based on somewhat your inside knowledge of this "weight metric tonne"? While no evidence whasoever to support your claim. Instead it's contradicted by the fact it's THEM who invite the police. It's THEM who literally pointing out the evidence and break the case open, while it will be so easy for them to just let it slide since the police even blissfully IGNORING everything in front of their face. Now that metric tonne of weight sound like a gram.
The level of incompetence is just... absolutely astounding. Good case study for teaching though, to see if the trainees can pick up on the ridiculous amounts of mistakes
This needs to be a training video for officers on the errors that come with investigations like this. Whoever is narrating would be great for training videos. These officers made soooo many mistakes, including the worst of them, putting themselves in danger. this is a WHAT NOT TO DO scenario
what a great idea - EWU should market their analyses for police training courses (for a fee, of course 😃) with all the analyses of mental disorders and behavior, that's a far better training for encountering mental illness than probably what they receive now!
You know those murder mysteries where the real police are so hilariously incompetent that the main character has to investigate for themselves? That’s not supposed to be real life. Shame on this department. I hope this family recovers from their trauma
Somehow the guy on probation leaving jugs of blood, drugs, and a gun in plain view while smoking meth as cops pound on the door isn't the dumbest person there.
1st place comment😂😂
Ah I feel almost bad for laughing but this comment wins
This comment doesn't have the credit it deserves.
You're right, the cops really out-did themselves here
Makes you wonder if they just didn't give a fuck
Not only did they mess up the evidence, but WHY did they let the family members stay in the house and become more and more traumatized as they uncovered things??? Cops may be somewhat desensitized to this kind of stuff but i feel like MOST normal people don’t see these things in their day to day lives….
this whole scene is crazy
Easy to be a critic when you’ve never been in such high stress situations
It’s their house.
If they don’t wanna see it then leave.
@@theZDOMEyeah, high stress, and probably never ever dealt with it before.
@@fbgmerk8178wow!
The way she questioned “how did they miss that?” While crying is so heartbreaking nobody should experience this, is so traumatizing, and the fact that instead of taking them out of the house to question them he let them standing there on the scene, the way they’re doing the police job and he just standing watching them. 😢
And the irreversible PTSD witnessing those things first hand is really heartbreaking.
You can see the disappointment of the mom when he met the officer 2nd time
1. Just imagine what dat guy was about to get away with
if the mother hadn't called the officers back😮
2. What if the family members were on that guy's side? and
since the officers stepped out (w/out securing the
scene), the family members got rid of evidence??
@FatLittleOldLadyWe'll never know since the police couldnt keep her off the scene, but idk man she sounded really shocked.
I SOBBED immediately when I heard her say that. 😔 Thats a mom who just started day number one of her PTSD journey. She is going to have a very long path to healing from seeing all of this. Families are one of the forgotten victims to horrendous crimes like this. Especially this family - their loved one killed another family member. Heartbreaking. Gut wrenching.
Rest in peace, Eddie. 💔💔 I hope your family finds peace, healing, and justice.
This is so frustrating to watch! How incompetent are those officers...
Very.
Even Hollywood gets this right. Well some shows
@@kellzje I was saying the same thing! Why did they leave the family members in the house!?
Absolute morons 🙄
That guys sister had more detective skills then ALL those cops put together. Poor girl shouldn't have had to do their jobs for them like that.
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or did you win this rownd?
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@@Vertical-sandwiches CARL
These cops must have been trained by the two officers who let Dahmer leave with his underage victim..
They were part of the same cult that Dahmer was.@Trea-pl4xr
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My god. Wonder wo f must have trained them to let something like dahlmer go.
Good comment
To have a family member take gloves and search the vents and stuff for them… unforgivable. That’s not for an everyday person to do. Not only did they traumatize that poor sister beyond compare, but the contamination is unmatched
@@camicrandel3177 well if you grow up with someone, you tend to know where they'll hide stuff. Like my brother hid behind an access panel in my closet when I told him to hide from our dad. He still finds comfort in small spaces and tiny things. I know if he's upset, he'll be in the closet under the stairs.
@@SaintShiondamn 😢 I’m so sorry
@@SaintShionyea but I think that’s a bit different than a schizo ass meth head hiding a dead body in the vents under the floor and random bins 😂😂
@@camicrandel3177facts, I was thinking the same thing. But if you also think, why would she snitch on herself. I’m pretty sure she was investigating the whole crib once she saw the blood in the bottles then especially after she saw the gore in the buckets. She started to overthink and she had a bad feeling it was maybe her missing cousin.
It’s not that serious. Your opinion that she’s traumatized is a complete assumption. You shouldn’t assume how others feel because that’s projecting how you would feel.
My grandmother was a blood spatter pattern analysis expert, was one of the first to every crime scene in her county. She would have been outraged at how this crime scene was handled. This is why we need competent police officers, because it's this kind of incompetence that allows doubt into the courtroom.
Ur grandma sounds like a badass
@@dudeguymap my thoughts 100%. quite literally having a hard time even watching because of how horribly this was handled. the fact the family was able to access the home after his arrest is where it all began.
Your grandfather nutted inside you sweet sweet grandmother's sweet gooey gash. This happened alot and led to much philatio. Something to think about.
we can only have competent cops with better instruction and a better justice system tht doesnt allow crime to be commited so openly with no consequences bc of "evidence" or the way it was obtained......when a system is so flawed every link in the chain will be just useless
@@lildead6oy460 literally. the fact that this can happen and the fact that the case could also be thrown out because of it is just insane in both aspects
Tbh as someone who’s lived in Alamogordo, this is EXACTLY something the police department would do. They’re inept in many aspects of their police work, they need new training and leadership.
Is it a smaller town?
@@andiward7068 I think it’s around 30,000
@@RandomWrongDeletion That's big enough to have a detective or two. Too bad there weren't on scene.
End DEI quotas.
@@RandomWrongDeletionAlamogordo is like 20,000 without Holloman
Imagine calling your Sergeant and having him say "I don't know what to do" 🤦🏼♀️ It's pretty apparent that NONE of them know what to do
Better get Rodney on the horn.
Bunch of clowns
I'm going to Alamogordo to commit all my crimes from now on, absolutely unmatched incompetence
I'm flabbergasted more and more by the minute
@@jenniwilliams3295 it's crazy! They handled everything wrong. I don't get how you can search a house and miss so much stuff that was literally in plain view. I guess that's where the saying "hiding in plain sight" comes in 🤷🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️
I'm only half way through the video and it's insane how bad they're handled the crime scene. Letting family members search the house and touch everything?!?!
the fact that he was trying to tell the cops & they just thought he was having some kind of episode is crazy. that’s why you need to LISTEN to people when they talk. even when the female cop asked what is it that you’re talking about , he still was trying to take them to the room & show them. we have 2 ears & 1 mouth for a reason.
They certainly lacked all listening skills and seemed to be adamant on following protocol. You can chew gum and walk at the same time. They should have listened to him while following whatever arrest protocol. I’m so sorry for the family and this guy needed psychological help a long time ago. I wish during the Regan Administration, they never stopped funding to the states for psychiatric care. In this day and age, in order to get good mental care you have to be well off with money or in a good paying job with insurance, however the US does not have the facilities they used to have.
You have no idea what you're talking about.
@@robinlee9272you're right, the closing of the institutions "Greyhound Therapy". They unceremoniously dumped patients in the middle of City's across the country. The result was an explosion of homeless people as never seen in this country. These poor souls don't belong on the streets or in jail.
@robinlee9272 Yep! F Reagan! 14M people with serious mental illness, and the state provides only 30,000 spots for mental health treatment nationwide.
@@thecomedypilot58944:08 Hi pilot, you are ok up there in the air, but life on earth is not always a comedy!
Steven was already trying to prove he was innocent before they even went into the residence. After the officers enter the home, they walk past two different weapons. Then, 9:40 he said that he ”wanted to kill him“ and he starts telling them that they are gonna find “stuff“ in the house that will make him look guilty. How in the world did the police just disregard this, even though he was on drugs?
I feel they just thought he was talking about the drug stuff and the gun that he wasn't supposed to have on him. The trailer was.trally messy when they went in to get him. My brother is just like Steven. He was diagnosed schizophrenic as a child and then into adulthood he got on meth and is so hard to deal with and understand what my brother would be talking about. But what really gets me is the cops walk back in the house and those other guns are still sitting in the house. Like how tf does this actually happen right? How do the cops not take all the weapons out and check them? I almost wanna say there was some extreme laziness going on.
@@froggynzack Im sorry about your brother, my dad has Sociopathy (ASPD) and was a heavy alcoholic. He stabbed himself in the stomach once saying demons were after him, so I know how terrifying it can be, especially since invisible disorders/illnesses are hard to treat + be very hard to cope with as a family member. I geniunely hope you know you're not alone. I do AL-ANON meetings and those help a lot, you can join the phone meetings, and we welcome people who haven't only had alcoholic parents since there's room for us all. I struggled really hard getting my parents sober and watching a HS friend go to jail for meth. Im so thankful they're all sober now. People never know whats happening behind closed doors.
They probably thought he was just rambling from the mental & drug abuse so they didn't take it seriously.
And people wonder why so many mass shootings happen. Gun laws are non existent nowadays. @@froggynzack
@@red3350they probably hear wild shit like this damn near every day with all the mental health and drug/alcohol issues they are called to deal with
When the sergeant said “I don’t know what to do” I was like we’re screwed if even the police don’t know how to handle a crime scene.
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They're probably used to give speeding tickets and arresting people for weed, but that's it. Little town police.
I heard that too! I’m sitting here half listening and loadin a bowl when I heard that I’m like pause Wubba wtf did that police just say? Lol it’s not funny it’s horrifying I guess I am kinda nervous chuckling bc my brain is like yeah no I’m not computing that bullshit lol ❤❤
@@Urfavdwplayer IKR, We All Felt The Same Way,,,Like WTF Sarge,,,I Jolled One Up When I Watched This As Well Just Makes These Vids A Whole Lot Bettter To Watch💚👌🏼👌🏼
I did more research into it and a person that went to school with the victim said the town isn’t large but small which now makes sense why the officers were not very concerned
*Traumatized lady:* Guides the officer into the scene of a human dismemberment
*Officer:* A puppy dawg :)
Seriously 😳🤧
😂😂😂😂 I should not be laughing but like WTF!??!?! With all the serious, gruesome items being shown he gets excited over a DOG while this poor sister is crying her eyes out!!! Like is he 5??
Oh, man. As much as I know it’s wrong, I do know that if ANYTHING is ever gonna distract me from doing my job it’s a puppy dawg 🥲
@@simply_messyi take that offensively, as anyone can enjoy love from a dog as long as the job gets done.
@@itsjustxme yeah except he DIDNT do his job
Seemed like Steven wanted to take them down the hall and show them something. Also, when the officer came back and was shown the bottles of blood, why didn’t he immediately take the family member out the house to preserve what was at least left of the crime scene. This is almost like a training video of what exactly NOT to do at a crime scene. Those poor family members. 🤦🏽♂️
Idiot cops!🤦🏽♂️
Family? You mean homicide enablers.
For real. I'm not even a cop and these were also my first thoughts
Even the Sarge said " I don't know". Even just ordinary citizens would know how to do the basics
@@HeartFarts Anyone who has watched crime shows on TV would know better!
The sobs from the sister when she kept finding more and more blood . She knew their worst fears were true. I felt that to my core.😢
The craziest thing to me is that him killing someone seems to be the family members’ FIRST conclusion. Not that he got hurt or that maybe it was animal blood or smth. Idk it just seems like they had some underlying feeling that he was unstable enough to hurt someone if that’s the first place their mind went upon finding blood.
his reputation doesnt exactly warrant tears of shock his past is full of violent out bursts idk whats worst the family's shock or the his handled evidence
She & her mom is suspicious as hell. How tf are they finding all the remains in different rooms.
9:40 Steven says he wanted to unalive him
& wanted to show cop something. But said the cop might find something that can make HIM look Guilty.
I mean, even an occasional watcher of forensic files knows if you think someone’s been murdered you need to secure the scene. I swear some of these cops went to officer doofys school of policing
Special Officer Doofy
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Interns.
Facts bro
it’s crazy that he actually begged the cops to let him show them what he’d done & they ignored him completely. aren’t they trained to actively listen?
This is the craziest part, he could and should have safely allowed him to show whatever it was.
I was shocked to find out that depending on the country, cops get barely a year of training, usually much less than that, beofre being put to work. Seems like the training here waa about 2 minutes.
@@pixie9499 rather to actively ignore.
Are all these cops rookies? This is insane. When they sergeant said he didn’t know what to do I damn near dropped my phone
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Im racist for talking about it, duh.
Literal cold war ongoing and people act like they just gpt released from the garden of eden. A bunch of lazy neighbor forgetters.
Wtf are these comments on?
Including the sergeant!!!
@@headhunterkillerwhat
When the cops were on scene the first time, he uttered "they had a gun to my head." Why didn't they ask _who_ had a gun to his head? He wanted to show them, to explain. Whenever someone seems a little off to me but wants to show and explain things, I just let them. You'd be surprised the kinda honesty people can have when in that state. Could've saved so much time. I feel so bad for his family. They all deserved better.
And they ignored the statement of the sober guy who said other people shot the poor deceased man and left his strung up cousin to clean up because he was family. I hope they are least investigated that. Tragic situation.
That part he sounded crazy so they probably thought it was drug talk. They dont see any "they" so they probably think he's hallucinating. They shouldve listened when he said kill though, but they probably thought it was all crazy talk.
@@genericyoutubenameee+1.
Anyone who has experience nce with meth heads knows that they will talk nonstop and say the craziest shit.
My sister did every kind of drug, but it wasn't until she tried meth that her mind truly fractured. She barely remembered who I was. Couldn't complete a fully formed sentence for something like ten years. She's been off meth now for about 5 years and she still struggles but is doing much better.
Only thing more tragic than a junkie's death is their life.
My cousin's husband stabbed his own mother to death after smoking meth.
Don't do drugs kids.
It's cuz nobody smart or logical wants to be a cop. So we have people who usually would barely be mall security, as our cops
@@HowieRaps It's more likely that most people commenting on youtube videos are smart or logical. Look one comment up and you see a completely rational explanation.
They mishandled this from start to finish, but if they passed on smelling decaying remains, then they are completely inept. It's unmistakable. Makes me wonder...what were the officers actually looking for by "searching" there????????
One of them even commented that the place "smells" and they didn't investigate further. But to answer your question, drugs. They were worried about drugs and that's all.
I figured. But even then, they didn't really investigate any containers either or dig into anything. I thought maybe they were looking for kidnapped females. That's where my mind went as I watched them "search". @@annehaight9963
Drugs &/or guns
That's exactly what I was thinking do Steven has "lump sums" of money or drugs in the house and they have "tunnel vision"?!!!
Yeah they seemed much more interested in the drugs than anything.
25:53 That is NOT ADHD. Zoning out for a bit here and there is one thing. Needing an entire day to accomplish a single errand because you keep forgetting what you're doing and walking into and out of the same store is an ENTIRELY differently.
This is like looking at someone who's impaled and being like "hm these symptoms sound like a splinter."
my thoughts too. sounds like derealization and or psychosis
Tweaking
Yeah just tweaking, the forgetfulness and taking forever is known as getting ''side-twacked'' lol
sounds more like OCD to me.
@@potatoman7594 ???
The officer finds the bottles of blood, and doesn't immediately close the entire house off? good god.
So, I don't know if you just didn't hear the video or if you're deaf, but they were CONSTANTLY SAYING that they weren't even sure if it was blood.
@@-vizer-5737 The officer said it sure looks like blood. That should have been enough! Are you deaf? What a rude comment.
@@angellayaright9009 are you deaf? Because seconds later, he said "I'm not sure though."
@@-vizer-5737 I heard that. And it changes nothing. He was concerned enough to call his sergeant and have the authorities come back. If he even suspects it might be blood then he should have stopped letting the family root around in there and closed off the potential crime scene. He doesn't have to know for sure beyond a shadow of a doubt before taking action :S Your comment was rude. You can disagree with someone without being an @ss about it.
@@angellayaright9009 It's interesting to me that you say I shouldn't be rude, as if 90% of these comments are saying nasty things and being extremely rude, but you go for the one who has a different opinion than yours. Shocker.
People need to give his sister a break she was trying to help and these cops were the ones who were being incompetent and allowed them to contaminant the scene. The officers are allowing his family member to continue to be horribly traumatized, which was so unnecessary . They did way more work than the cops did. Such incompetence.
I mean.... once you see that much blood you know somthing bad happened and not messing up a crime scene is pretty well known
@@quincyharris2512i swear a child would know 'that much blood = bad'. These cops though? Its nuts
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I'm glad she didn't open up that tote or bins...
It’s always easier to blame everyone but the killer/rap*st/actual perpetrator these days. People would rather attack an innocent woman (his sister) than hold Steven accountable for his actions.
It's really sad watching the family involved, in the end they lost both family members.
A tragic loss. My heart goes out to them 🙏♥️
The dude literally said "I wanted to kill him, and what you're gonna find here will make me look guilty" and this didn't make them look for a body lmao. What the hell.
Maybe because they thought he is just hallucinating or maybe the effect of drugs. Very unprofessional
*They* had a gun on his head, & killed him
Who are *they*?
I'll tell you, they were looking more for drugs than anything else.
It's called complacency. Where you are so used to it, you only look for that.
That’s not what complacency means.
That gun handling was worse than complacency. That's an incompetent cop and a weapons instructor who signed off on someone who has no business in the profession. It's rot from the inside out.
My favorite term for it is "Conditional Blindness." Like when a driver is only looking for cars, and their brains won't register a bicycle
@@MikeB12800complacent; not giving a shit. Close enough. 😮
@@Jake-gu7oo Really? I hope that isn't the case and find that hard to believe . Bicycles can enter the 'blind zone' of drivers who can't see them. My point? You don't make a good case to make your point imo. These cops need to be 'retrained' to observe, record and report v putting their paws all over the evidence at a crime scene. Same thing happened at the Ramsey girl's murder scene and why that can hasn't been solved. 'townie cops' are yahoo's and not as educated nor as trained as state and federal cops. Stupid is what stupid does and there's too much nepotism at the townie police departments = incompetence and corruption
I study forensic for 3 years in high school and one of the first things they taught me was to remove everyone from a crime scene to not ruin evidence, this is so shocking how badly this whole situation was handled.
3yrs of forensics in high school? Yeah okay Gil Grissom. What high school teaches forensics? 3 out of 4 years too? I'm calling BS on that.
@@jamesbartz3803 its possible there is a high school that has a forensic program in my state
Okay, I submit then. Thank you. Learn new stuff everyday. Haha
@@jamesbartz3803in my senior year I took 4 classes on criminal justice and crime scene.
@@jamesbartz3803 Uh its called going to Tech? College "prep" classes? Extremely normal. Sorry you're ignorant
The entire department seems incompetent
It's crazy to hear him say all the stuff he's saying knowing why he's saying it when the cops have no clue.... "I wanna prove my innocence" and " I had to get it all out of me" ... "My cousin has a history"
Get it all *off* me.
He was covered in blood.
Yep, I agree. Especially when he said "I didn't kill him". Clueless dumb cops. Just plain laziness and the incompetence was unbearable to watch. SMH
That's what meth addicts talk like though. Sounds weird to you. Pretty normal insane blathering for a meth head.
He literally said “I wanted to kill my cousin” they still thought it was only drugs? How did they even get their jobs?!
this video should be educational material on every police school in a lesson of "100 things you should never do or say"
Perfect training video on what not to do when you are controlling a crime scene
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Perfect comment hahaha
The guys mom: 😔😭
The cop: Hi puppy dawg! 🤠
I was looking for this.
Like WTF🤦
I was screaming omg 💀 like bro
Did he not read the room? You can tell by how quiet she was and it looked like something traumatized her
I get the dog is cute but like damn, Someone is crying!
LOL literally
They should hire his family to work as crime scene investigators. They were finding more evidence than the cops lmao.
*There is MORE to this story*
From the beginning,
1:19 He doesn't open the door when his *mom & sis* asking him to come out & *banging on the door ###*
he kept shouting "close the door(sis mom is outside), let me prove my innocence close the door" , to saying cop that "he is not guilty" , 7:14after cop goes deeper into his house, he says "no no no no no it might make him look guilty" & he kept rejecting that "it's not his fault", while they still haven't even found the body(while his "detective" sister still haven't shown the police, the "capped" "blood" bottle)
9:00 "It smells"
9:32 "Let me prove my innocence-"
9:39 "I know *THEY* did some of this"
"they *even did* some-"
"Of *this stuff* when I first got into the scene"
"And I wanted to unalive him" (he is being honest, but he didn't unalive the cousin)
"I did not wanted to risk my life and let that happen again"
10:36 *###* "I thought you are gonna unalive me bro"
"why did they let *them* (mom & sis) bang on the window"
"you know what I mean"
What he meant *They* = Mom & Sis
"I was like I'm not gonna risk my life, and all these lives"
"can you shut the door *so I could show you?* _"
11:23 "No I have to *show you because I am not-* _
12:07" That I am innocent because they kept on denying me, It's my fault I panicked, *But THEY had a gun to my head* _"
27:04 "my cousin is dead"
31:13
I think that *They = mom & sis* or could be someone else
This is just insane, that he continues to let the family members touch things, clean things, walk around, when he suspects there is a jug of blood on the counter. I'm not even a police officer and would know to leave the house and call homicide if someone was missing and there was blood in the house.
This is a very small town and highly unlikely to even have a 'homicide division'. Typically they might have 1 slightly more qualified officer or sgt that they would call for this, tho these officers and all their superiors are highly under-trained, under-experienced, and unqualified for the job... and I wouldn't put much more faith in the designated 'homicide officer'.
Really the state police should be handling this, tho these officers entirely botched up the scene and the evidence.
Former LEO, now retired.
@@markstone1619police don't need a homicide division that's just an easy cop out
@@jaydub2546 Sharpen up on your reading comprehension. I never said a homicide division is always needed for every homicide case.
A homicide division may be 2 detectives on small departments or 50 or more detectives on large departments.
However many homicide cases are very complex and do require numerous detectives and resources to fully investigate and gather/analyze evidence on a particular homicide case.
I can easily see that you have absolutely zero experience in even minor case handling, let alone homicides.
@@markstone1619 You would think the basics of what to look for on any call and how to preserve a crime scene would be taught to every single officer. Not just homicide investigators. No need to be a snarky jerk.
@@angellayaright9009 You miss a lot then put false accusations on the wrong person. The real "snarky jerk' was the person I was repllying to, who said to me "police don't need a homicide division that's just an easy cop ou".
I am not only shocked at how they handled the crime scene. But i'm more appalled that they let the family members see all of that. Police are supposed to keep the general public from seeing things like that...
Especially their family member. Even after discovery of the ID after multiple bloodstains on different places. My goodness!!!
you are actually a toddler man. "They let the family members see that stuff" yea sure, as if they didn't find it before the cops did, and as if the sister wasn't actively trying to help the police search the house... you have to be on more drugs than steven was on to post this
@-vizer-5737 typically after something like this, depending on the situation the police can recommend a "Disaster Restoration" Company to clean stuff up. If they can't afford it and/or don't have insurance, usually "Victim Services" can help. Most would've been taken as evidence. A lot of people have to move after something like this because of the trauma they experienced in it, or of just knowing what happened there. I think you need patience and forethought, grasshopper.
Have a great day! 🙂
Should the family have to continue to do what the cops are paid to do??? Use your brain..tbh you don’t even have a brain if a toddler you have the brain of an ant.
You clearly haven’t grasped what social media is for huh little man?
“Maybe it’s adhd or dementia from drug use”
….. didn’t yall say that he had a traumatic head injury in the beginning? That they kept private?
Seems more like psychosis.
medical stuff is private you fool
No I dont think they were hiding that.
In the first call all the chaos was focused on Stevens psychosis and risk of harm to himself and others.
The family was more than cooperative, especially considering the absolutely terrible circumstances.
The officers were completely clueless and majorly distracted.
yeah i’m like, def more than adhd… more needs to be studied about mental illnesses.
Thought you were talking about the police officers, there’s something seriously wrong with them.
That cop literally made those women do something even he himself wasn't supposed to be doing. If they act like this and miss the obvious stuff, imagine how unreliable they really are.
And how many other crime scenes did they miss? If the mother and sister were dishonest or valued their family member's freedom over justice, then the cops would have been none the wiser. This crime scene literally slapped them across the face and they still needed civilians to walk them through it.
The more I watch these American horror true stories the more I KNOW they don't know what they're doing, when you have a decent police department you notice other countries and thank god you're an Aussie
These were the clumsiest, most poorly-trained cops I've ever seen! Holy 💩! I'm shocked they got a conviction at all!
They remind me of the ones from the Jeffrey Dahmer case, honestly
@@clearlyseverely3155 for real!
"Here, you can have this clearly not okay young boy back to finish off since you claim he's your lover!" So sick and so incredibly stupid!
Democrat state what do you expect? They want to dEfUnD tHe pOLiCe 🙄
Haven’t even started the video, and those bottles creep me out. To think someone would simply store the blood is disgusting.
I was an RA at a university, and we had a student who stored his semen, blood, urine, and feces in water bottles in his room mini fridge. He was immediately kicked out of student housing after an investigation. Some people are just sick, sick puppies.
Weird kink. I've thought of storing my pee or spit Mayne seven if drunk but just up
@@sadhu7191 😂
@@lauren4078 What the fuck
that is so crazy@@lauren4078
Watching this is disturbing. They messed up in SO many ways, it’s totally unacceptable!
I went to school with the victim and he was a very stand up guy he always had your back no matter what everyone and anyone who knew him got along with him r.i.p Eddie aka Shadow. It saddens me how bad the cops are so bad here in our little town condolences again to family to have to go through that!
Damn bro that's rough I'm sorry you lost your homie. Did you also know the suspect?
@@MEDIOCRATES_222 I knew of him but not personally he's much younger I remember him as a kid but I know his family though. Good people!
@@Slumlife420 it's always the good ones that get taken from us
That's wild. Did you just come across this video randomly?
@@a.nobodys.nobody that's crazy cause I know all about what happened and all but I watch all ewu videos and it was random I know his aunt in the video and all. I'm also in a very small town but crime is bad here.
The cop (unseen face, inside house) does not seem very bright. He is also inarticulate. To say the policemen were unprofessional is understatement.
I completely agree. that was just unprofessional-ism, that was stupidity.
If you're talking about the one that went to the second call, you're braindead lol
The most shocking thing about this to me, is that of all people Steven asked for a lawyer and refused to speak without one.
You learn it when you've been arrested a few times
That’s exactly what you’re supposed to do when you get arrested. You don’t ever talk to the cops without a lawyer. I thought that was common sense 😭
I know! perhaps in a previous arrest his lawyer told him to do that (?). In the majority of all these EWU video analyses, people just keep talking and say dumb things like, "should I get a lawyer?" or "I think I might need to talk with a lawyer, but not yet..." which makes even worse sense than if you just sat there and said nothing.
@@suburbantrapqueen y’all dumb. If you’re guilty, no need for lawyer. Just admit and accept your deserved punishment. Lawyers should only protect innocent people. Not criminals
@@truehappiness4U It's not by any means dumb to try and get out of a bad situation if available. Is it morally right? No, but it is still understandable that the one being incarcerated would at least want a lawyer to ensure that even if they lose the case they can get a lighter sentence
How did nobody notice the smell of death coning from that closet with the plastic totes? Bodies start to stink within a few hours. Blood smells very distinct & also would start rotting whithin a day. That closet had to reek of death. The initial cops on the scene were just so hyper focused on finding drugs they missed an entire dismembered, rotting corpse.
As someone who grew up with a meth head dad not unlike Steven (there is a reason I am NC and was in foster care) I know what meth smells like, unfortunately, and it smells sweet. Sickly sweet and rotten, not unlike the smell of death/rotting meat. At least to me, that's what it smelled like when he or my mom would smoke with me in the room. So I wouldn't be surprised if the meth smell was overpowering at first, especially as they mentioned there was still smoke when they first open the door. Not defending these cops though, they seriously messed up this whole thing and almost could have let a murderer go free. They need retraining asap.
@@Peyote1312 I was gonna say "Steven's a smelly boi" but someone already replied with the full answer 😔
“Is it gel?”
Why the hell are you asking the poor family members that like they’re forensic examiners? This whole department needs to be fired
The gel is the blood that is solidified right? Don't know why he said that though
Only in a perfect world would they be fired. .
If they don't know how to handle these type of crimes, they should have just cleared the home and taped off the crime scene and called in the professionals. What a bunch of dense cops.
The worst part is that they just let the family investigate and find the victim pieces by pieces while casually talking to them like they are coworkers.
@@kristinegangman7756at that point hire the family and fire the cops
They leave Two guns on the counter the ENTIRE time with suspect and the family. I mean who TF hired any of these people
Apparently the guy who didn't know what to do. This is unreal!
I was wondering if anyone else saw that. That's insane
This ENTIRE department needs proper crime scene training and maybe courtroom demeanor and testimony. Wow.. this is so bad 😮
The lady at the beginning stating it smells... how do people miss the smell of death? That sh*t is intense
There’s a million channels covering content like this. Your humor and commentary make you one of the best. I love this channel man 🙏🏻
Thank you for providing subtitles! I wish all interrogation/body cam channels would do the same.
Poor Eddie was already suicidal and suffering from addiction to alcohol and severe health issues from being hit by the semi. And then he gets murdered. So awful. That poor man.
How do you know he was suicidal?
@@DestinySunday-ul7bb I believe his family said that he had recently made statements that he wanted to die and/ or end his life. I mean, things already weren’t going great for him and then he gets grievously injured getting hit by the semi and already has an addiction. I’m not at all surprised he would feel that way. I’d wanna give up too. Poor guy. And then that happens to him. Some people’s lives are so incredibly sad.
Do not say this. Having a hard life does not mean the need to kill yourself.
@@r.r.9282 did you even read what I wrote? I said it was sad he was feeling that way already and going through so much and then was murdered. Have you ever experienced homelessness and addiction and being horrifically injured in a car accident? My guess is probably not. You have no idea the depths of human misery or else you wouldn’t say something so judgmental. There are plenty of valid reasons to feel like ending your life. Just because you have some absurd religious reasons that say it’s a sin or whatever doesn’t negate the fact that existing can be pure torture for some.
I was screaming at my screen through that whole second house visit. The contamination, no securing the crime scene. So frustrating!
The mother and the sister cleaned the crime scene while the cop is watching 🤣
Watching them mess up the crime scene is almost unbearable 😭
Addiction is seriously such a huge deal in our country. It's taking over and I wish we could get people the help they need BEFORE things like this happen. It's so sad and insane how bad it is. My mom and sister have both struggled with addiction. It's so awful to see someone you love going through something so horrible. I really hate it so much.
Lol
Chealsea life is a choice loser
Are your mom and sister doing good now?
If you think watching it is difficult try living through it
@@bunnyluver2176 no common sense is too strong for some of us
These cops act as if they’re all collectively on their first day of the job
New Mexico police
These guys are legit dumber than the students in my field investigation course at the junior college level. We, at least, already had an interest in the science of forensic investigation and some background in personal study.
IKR💚👍🏼👍🏼
@@youpeopleareallinsaneRight 💚👍🏼👍🏼
*PLEASE READ THIS POV*
From the beginning,
1:19 He doesn't open the door when his *mom & sis* asking him to come out & *banging on the door ###*
he kept shouting "close the door(sis mom is outside), let me prove my innocence close the door" , to saying cop that "he is not guilty" , 7:14after cop goes deeper into his house, he says "no no no no no it might make him look guilty" & he kept rejecting that "it's not his fault", while they still haven't even found the body(while his "detective" sister still haven't shown the police, the "capped" "blood" bottle)
9:00 "It smells"
9:32 "Let me prove my innocence-"
9:39 "I know *THEY* did some of this"
"they *even did* some-"
"Of *this stuff* when I first got into the scene"
"And I wanted to unalive him" (he is being honest, but he didn't unalive the cousin)
"I did not wanted to risk my life and let that happen again"
10:36 *###* "I thought you are gonna unalive me bro"
"why did they let *them* (mom & sis) bang on the window"
"you know what I mean"
What he meant *They* = Mom & Sis
"I was like I'm not gonna risk my life, and all these lives"
"can you shut the door *so I could show you?* _"
11:23 "No I have to *show you because I am not-* _
12:07" That I am innocent because they kept on denying me, It's my fault I panicked, *But THEY had a gun to my head* _"
27:04 "my cousin is dead"
31:13
I think that *They = mom & sis* or could be someone else
More than likely “they” exist only in his head. But this would be absolutely wild.
This is INSANE!!! How the hell did officers miss all this!!! The smell alone should have alerted them!
It was Smokey when they went inside… they probably couldn’t smell anything other than the meth…. 🤷♀️
@@mozzrchik that's what I was thinking...not making excuses for all the other mistakes, but that second-hand meth smoke apparently causes immediate headaches or nausea, and it was in a closed up house that already stunk. Could be why they wanted him outside so badly, to escape the smoke
Why does it always seem like the suspect has to have a crazy amount of convictions before they're sent to prison i mean these are dangerous people and should be treated as such and more people are getting hurt in the process
Because there are a lot of people in the legal and "justice" industries dedicated to making sure criminals are protected from the evils of the system. So many criminal defense lawyers, DAs and NGOs dedicated to helping support criminals and criminal activity.
Cause it's actually hard to put someone away for 10 plus years. Lots of paper work, court, explain case 100 times to people. U sit in jail 5 years till they ready. Then they pay for your housing.
what's crazy is the US has the biggest prison population pre capita.. so someone is locking people up
Because it costs millions of dollars to house these inmates and people keep voting out taxes being raised to put more money into these institutions. But wait, Americans don’t like taxes, so instead they just complain instead of fixing the problem they are given an option to. 🤡
@@felix-ve8jk There are thousands of innocent people put in prison every year and hundreds of people *from death row* have been cleared of the crimes *they were almost put to death for!* Most of them are there because the police and the DA hid or manufactured evidence.
Yet here you are, complaining because people actually have rights and an infinitesimal chance against a behemoth that is designed to crush them!
They aren't there to let criminals walk, *they're there to make sure the right person goes to prison or to the afterlife!*
dude was so shocked by the scene he forgot he was a cop 💀
So many palm to forehead moments in this one 🤦♀️🤦♀️
@@HeatherL7290 I'm only half way through and already facepalmed like 12 times lol. It's crazy
@silent9pc for real like HOW. They acted like they where just visiting a friend 👀
@@HeatherL7290 Haha that's for sure! 😂
Yes! His ass scared too 💀
I love it when EWU starts dragging the so called “professionals”. 😂😂
What a messed up police force. Seriously who trained them?
No one apparently 😂
It's NM.... This is a common occurrence, sadly....
Training doesn’t solve incompetence
What they have in human decency they lack completely in professionalism
It's New Mexico police. I watch a ton of bodycam videos and you can tell from their conduct they are poorly trained and there is a culture of trashy immaturity.
Hurts to hear the aunt say she wanted him to get help as a child. THERE WAS CLEAR SIGNS. He needed help years ago. I feel awful for his mother but the fact she could have prevented his drug use or even this killing by giving her son the care he clearly needed hurts.
Mental health matters so much yall, even the right therapy or treatment in childhood could do so much in the long run.
Getting mental health help for children isn't that easy. My niece but herself til she bled. Apparently that's not "the right kind" of self harm so no help. And that's in the UK. Parents paid private. I can't imagine what it's like getting in the US when you're likely to lose your home if you get cancer.
@@nicolajackson7992 agree, getting quality mental health for anyone can be difficult if you don't know how to navigate the system. There are a lot of phony facilities that don't really help, or facilities that require health insurance. And while 1-800 help lines are OK for a stop-gap immediate need, that's not therapy. Therapy is expensive.
"she could have prevented his drug use or even the killing" - you are absolutely unfair to his mother, laying all the blame on her.
As if it was so easy - just a call to a therapist and !bam! like magical Steven gets a new personality.
Other parents have tried therapy after therapy, have tried and fought and pleaded for decades - and still lost their kids to drugs. And often these were children with a normal intelligence, from a normal upbringing.
Whilst those who are aggressive and violent from early on, who attack others with knives, often end up really bad, no matter what was tried on them.
Psychopaths cannot be healed, only supervised.
And at one point, the child turns 18 and his parents have no longer the right to interfere with his life.
It's not on the mother at all, like damn man, you don't have to be this idiotically dense.
@@Louise-u3wMy brother was a meth addict and a clinical psychopath. You are absolutely correct. My parents outright had to neglect me most of my childhood to pour all their love, money, attention and time into him, his therapy, his care, etc. & he still died at 23 from fentanyl after being an abusive monster to all of us for years on end. Some people just don’t want to be helped, and you can’t blame the rest of the world for it.
It was so eerie to me when the mother led the officer in the house to the bottles of blood while being completely silent. That part creeped me out the most.
You could feel the disgust she had for them. She was already aware this case was gonna be a shit show.
I can't imagine finding pieces of a human being. The very vague, blurry record of the discovery here is haunting enough. I don't know that I'd ever get over finding it in person.
What's especially crazy is how articles covering this case seem to try to make the officers seem far more competent than they are. They even claim the officers found the containers on the counter on the first visit and then came back later with a warrant.
if that were true then the footage of the sister handling the evidence and showing the cops the blood wouldn't even exist
All media is owned by just three companies in the US, and those three companies are owned by the same people. And those people need to lie every second of every day to hide themselves and their deeds. Remember Ep stein.
such stupid copaganda, he clearly had a 4th waiver which is why they didn't need a warrant the 1st time.
I saw that to. Lying. Good thing we have this video.
Oh wow. "Competent" is by far the last word I would ever use to describe this case!
It's amazing how incompetent those cops are. Let's be real here: Everyone, who's ever watched a movie or series with police in it knows, how to handle a situation like that. You instantly pick up the basics. Or you watch EWU on a regular basis 😎
But those officers seem to lack any kind of preparation whatsoever. They seemed to have been picked up of the street where they stood and just thrown in front of this trailer. "This is your task: Find out what's wrong here. The man inside will give you a lot of hints to help you out"
And they just went: "Nah... I can do this on my own, thanx"
I know right? The whole situation is like a final exam at a detective school that these guys failed spectacularly. It even reminds me of a crime scene test I was given in a low level criminology class. The instructor created a fake crime scene for us to investigate and played the roles of the suspects and bystanders for us to question.
I bet you wouldn’t do any better. Watching fake shows and movies, how laughable
@@theZDOME difference is we're not trained police officers they are
Diversity hires.
this is what happens when you lower the standards or dont require adequate training. Look at the situation in Illinois where a federal lawsuit was filed for wrongful death because a woman cop could of and should of used her taser on a woman running towards another officer with a large kitchen knife and he had to shoot her even though he told the woman cop to use non lethal before the situation, told her to pull out her taser (she didnt) and then taze the woman attacking him with the knife but she doesnt and she just stands there watching the situation.
He literally told them they were gonna find something bad 😢 imagine not finding it
Yeah. The officers were clearly operating under tunnel vision bc just having drugs and a few guns doesnt add up to his comments. Its like no one stopped to question his statements. A simple "And why are you saying that" would have probably been enough
With the other things that he said, I wouldn't be surprised if they just thought it was part of his drug induced delusions.
Im a defense attorney and love these videos. Really well made all of them. Well done
I feel horrible for this poor family. You can even beg the courts to force a loved with a mental crisis into a psychiatric facility but You have to wait till the person becomes a danger to themselves or others, the very thing you are trying to prevent. Just heartbreaking
Bring back mental asylums they existed for a reason.
@@Khvg-e4l look up the exposés that caused most of them to be shut down in the 70s and 80s those places were absolutely horrible where people with relatively mild learning disabilities or more severe anxiety or depression were lobotomized and mixed in with people who were dangerous, they would not care for the patients at all and let the ones who couldnt care for themselves sit in piles of their own shit, many of the patients being children. we need more empathetic mental health services, even people who go to the psych ward because theyre suicidal are still mistreated by staff and taunted, verbally abused, sexually exploited, and more. you may think it best to shove these people to the outskirts of society because you dont want to see them or hear about it, but these dark sides of society are like a cancer that will spread until someday they might reach someone you love who just needs help but instead only gets ridiculed and abused. have some compassion.
@@Khvg-e4l oh man. That is a uh loaded statement there bud.
@@Khvg-e4l there was an awful lot of abuse in mental asylums which was pretty much just a place for throw aways. What these ppl need is good psychiatric care and correct medication and case workers trained in the field of psychiatry.
Thankfully this family was honest and didn't just cover up for Steven. Sad situation for the family.
As an ex user of meth, the psychosis that comes from it is no joke. The things you see and hear makes the reality you thought you knew just get flipped on it’s head. It lasts for days, weeks, even months. Even compared to acid or shrooms, those do not compare to the hallucinations you have while being on a binge. I got 3 years clean, still have all my teeth 😂
Good job getting clean.
I remember Jessie on Breaking Bad paranoid about everyone outside his house, like mailman and JWs. It didn't come off as bad as what you're saying though. Is it so addictive that being terrified from it won't make you stop? :(
You sound like my ex tweaker dad, "I still have all my teeth, I'm a looker in this community!" 💀💀💀
Psychosis is hard enough to live through on its own, i cannot imagine the hell of that experience alongside addiction alone, especially meth. Well done on getting clean i hope you're doing okay
Proud of you! Keep going!!
I'm also in recovery, though my DOC was fentanyl, I know the demon that is addiction.
All the best!
This entire bodycam footage compilation can be used as a case study in police training of everything NOT to do.
OMG! I know Alamogordo is a small city in New Mexico, but you can’t tell me that these officers were not trained in evidence collection and securing a scene. Everybody watching this right now, including me, is screaming at their devices “back out of there, get the family out of there, quit touching evidence!“ Holy moly!
These same incompetent cops will pull you over for a tail light out and act like they are top of the food chain, lol.
😂
😂😂🤣for damn sure!
Broken tail lights are revenue generators. Let's not pretend that isn't the primary duty of the department.
It's so frustrating seeing such incompetency, as a forensics graduate. What they did while doing their search is called tunnel-visioning, and as such, they only narrowed their search to what they wanted to find (likely drugs and drug paraphernalia). A proper search looks through the wide scope of the property and looks at *everything* for other potential evidence. Also massive rule of thumb, when doing a search, nobody else is supposed to be around in case other potential evidence is tampered with or even disposed of. Super careless cops.
I’ve watched a few crime scene tv shows and I know you don’t walk around touching things. Congratulations on graduating, it’s a very interesting career that’s for sure. The police were totally incompetent.
@@doreenblatz2440 cheers. And yeah, absolutely, even with gloves, you don't touch things. You take photos of the evidence in it's natural state, as well as the surroundings from 3-4 angles. You gotta put your curiosity aside for these things and not fiddle with the items
I was born and raised from Alamogordo NM. There violence everywhere, but it’s just recently got started here in this town. Blessing to the families
My mind is blown... I'm just a regular shmegular with no training(aside from EWU lmao) and I was like, "no, omg!!" Why is he letting them do that?? Why is he doing that??" I seriously cannot believe it. This is scary
Everyone at home knows these people should not be touching or moving anything and we are not even law enforcement.
Living in New Mexico, this is exactly the incompetence you see from APD and many other sheriffs in the whole state. So sad to see them doing the cops job in pure distraught
Lived in New Mexico for 12 years and was born there- can confirm the cops there don’t give af.
I watched 7 videos on this channel and and 5 of them were in NM. The state is awful. As for the incompetent police, just watch the Texaco child abuse video. That sheriff should be locked up.
13:28 when she said “how did they miss that” and showed that horror on the kitchen counter, it made my blood run cold. *how do they, how do they actually miss that shit?!?!*
Unfortunately, situations like this aren't just an issue for the prosecutors. Dudes family was just trying to help, while also being in shock and if it effected the case, they will have to live with that forever and all because of poor proto, that's terribly sad imo
I honestly don't know what to say to this i mean how tf could the cops have missed something so obvious were they high or something
Theres a reason theyre cops..
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I’m still trying to do the math on how you guys watched a 32 minute video in 15 minutes?
NM cops are not the sharpest tool in the drawer.
You do realize you can get D’s all through high school and become a cop right? Like being a cop is one of the easiest jobs to obtain, and requires so little education that this is what happens because of it
Love how the family (who shouldn't have even been walking through the scene at all,) had to actually _tell_ the cops where to look, and what was there. Legally speaking, they contaminated the scene, but they were clearly more on the ball than the cops were.
The first cops didn't see the evidence. They're stupid for it, yes, but the family clearly didn't either until the cops left, because they didn't say a word until then.
Even if they knew about it when the cops were there, why didn't they say anything? So keep bashing on the cops for not seeing it, when the family who literally lives in the house didn't either.
When the family discovered it, they told the cops where it was. How is that a bad thing? At all? Would you rather her keep quiet and let him get away with murder?
Legally speaking, yes they did contaminate the scene, I agree. The cops could have handled this so much better, but it really all comes down to the cops didn't see the evidence at first, neither did the family, the cops left, the family found it, called the cops, and somehow the cops did something wrong by not having better eye sight than the family who literally lives there.
I think the comment is saying that’s is crazy how the family had to do the police’s job for them. And clearly the family doesn’t live there, they showed up to do a welfare check with the parole officers, trying to see if he was ok.
That’s a training video par excellence! Carried out by real Officers, on a real call out, in a real place, with no actors playing the other parts. And, a real Sergeant Officer Bloke, who doesn’t know what to do!
Great police work guys!
“A PUPPY DOG”💀
I 🤦♀️'d hard.
@@New_romantics-o5j "Ooh a puppy dog!🤗" *Before entering the house of a greusum murder*
It's unbelievable to me that they did not check the fridge/freezer, any of the totes/storage bins, nor anything that could be used in such an evil crime. Also, no one who has committed m*rder especially gruesome should ever be charged with less than 1st degree m*rder!
You clearly don't understand what is meant by the different degrees of murder. It has nothing to do with how "gruesome" it was.
Exactly. Alot of times they will take plea deal for lesser charge to get confession/conviction.
@@NewportJoe Hey bud, it's "a lot".
@@amityislandchum I think they're meaning because he dismembered the body afterwards and had a list written out ect.
There's no need for the asterisks.
Damn I used to hang out with Steven as kids, my condolences to his mother and family. From the loss of her brother to all the other family members they have lost. I hope they find peace
“A puppy dog”
Aw… wholesome AF before the brutal reality
Not even a few hrs after my best friend and another friends double murder, they released the house to his next of kin and they allowed a bunch of us to go in and grab different things from their rooms that meant something to us, coagulated blood still in both place, the outline of a head in the blood. Yeah I couldn’t freaking believe it. They released it soooo soon.
The police can't legally keep people from their own property after the evidence has been gathered. Tbs, some LEOs are more thorough than others. Clean up is outside their duties. There may be victim assistance of some type depending on jurisdiction, though.
What case was this? Are you willing to elaborate?
That's terrible. A few hours seems insane. And unfortunately crimescene cleanup falls on the family.
Unfortunately, it is up to the families to clean after. My sister paid to have the scene cleaned after my husband committed suicide.
@@bigdoggiefighter im so sorry for your loss
Am I the only one that thinks there are others involved? Not only did Steven say "they had a gun to my head" but the guy in the interview mentions "they were on post" as if he knew more about what was going on. I think something happened and Steven was caught up in it and forced to deal with the mess or else find himself in a bucket. I have no doubt he was involved but I seriously think there was more people involved that are walking free.
You're onto something
If only they let him speak when he was high in his house. He was about to tell everything. He kept saying "they", "they offered me", "I'm innocent", "my cousin has a history", "they did some of this", "they even did some of this when I first got into the scene", "and I wanted to kill them that's why I did not want to risk my life and let that happen again"
Highly doubt it... There's no evidence to suggest someone else involved. Infact, we can clearly seen all of their family members are the one who concern and distraught throughout the interaction.
The only suggestion/idea you have is coming from Steven super ambigous and inchorent comment. Which is, frankly, coming from Paranoia Addict, is hardly hold any weight.
@@dalfifran7572 It has a metric tonne of weight. Knowing full well what people are capable of in the drug world. They use people like this more than you know.
@@MrKingglenn So you're making assumption and pure speculation based on somewhat your inside knowledge of this "weight metric tonne"?
While no evidence whasoever to support your claim. Instead it's contradicted by the fact it's THEM who invite the police. It's THEM who literally pointing out the evidence and break the case open, while it will be so easy for them to just let it slide since the police even blissfully IGNORING everything in front of their face.
Now that metric tonne of weight sound like a gram.
New Mexico and the entire Southwestern United States is FULL of Stevens.
The things he says suggest he's taking the fall for a larger group of people involved too.
@@ffwastthat's schizophrenic talk
The level of incompetence is just... absolutely astounding. Good case study for teaching though, to see if the trainees can pick up on the ridiculous amounts of mistakes
Top notch police work on this one. The only thing missing is them selling tickets to the neighbours for a guided tour aswell.
This needs to be a training video for officers on the errors that come with investigations like this. Whoever is narrating would be great for training videos. These officers made soooo many mistakes, including the worst of them, putting themselves in danger. this is a WHAT NOT TO DO scenario
what a great idea - EWU should market their analyses for police training courses (for a fee, of course 😃) with all the analyses of mental disorders and behavior, that's a far better training for encountering mental illness than probably what they receive now!
You know those murder mysteries where the real police are so hilariously incompetent that the main character has to investigate for themselves? That’s not supposed to be real life. Shame on this department. I hope this family recovers from their trauma
bro the fact he was tryna show them is crazy n they didnt wanna listen or take the hints that smth was up is so sad
This is horrific and it’s just tragic how the investigation was conducted ‼️