Cops Search Home, Somehow Miss Dead Body & Blood Everywhere
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- Опубліковано 14 гру 2023
- In today's true crime documentary and body camera video, we're covering the case of Steven Gonzalez and analyzing it from an educational perspective.
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Somehow the guy on probation leaving jugs of blood, drugs, and a gun in plain view while smoking meth as cops pound on the door isn't the dumbest person there.
1st place comment😂😂
Ah I feel almost bad for laughing but this comment wins
This comment doesn't have the credit it deserves.
You're right, the cops really out-did themselves here
Makes you wonder if they just didn't give a fuck
These cops must have been trained by the two officers who let Dahmer leave with his underage victim..
They were part of the same cult that Dahmer was.@@Trea-pl4xr
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My god. Wonder wo f must have trained them to let something like dahlmer go.
Good comment
Imagine calling your Sergeant and having him say "I don't know what to do" 🤦🏼♀️ It's pretty apparent that NONE of them know what to do
Better get Rodney on the horn.
Bunch of clowns
I'm going to Alamogordo to commit all my crimes from now on, absolutely unmatched incompetence
I'm flabbergasted more and more by the minute
@@jenniwilliams3295 it's crazy! They handled everything wrong. I don't get how you can search a house and miss so much stuff that was literally in plain view. I guess that's where the saying "hiding in plain sight" comes in 🤷🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️
dude was so shocked by the scene he forgot he was a cop 💀
So many palm to forehead moments in this one 🤦♀️🤦♀️
@@HeatherL7290 I'm only half way through and already facepalmed like 12 times lol. It's crazy
@silent9pc for real like HOW. They acted like they where just visiting a friend 👀
@@HeatherL7290 Haha that's for sure! 😂
That guys sister had more detective skills then ALL those cops put together. Poor girl shouldn't have had to do their jobs for them like that.
THAN
dammit@@KarlPilkington89 you win this round....
or did you win this rownd?
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@@KarlPilkington89 CARL
Not only did they mess up the evidence, but WHY did they let the family members stay in the house and become more and more traumatized as they uncovered things??? Cops may be somewhat desensitized to this kind of stuff but i feel like MOST normal people don’t see these things in their day to day lives….
this whole scene is crazy
Easy to be a critic when you’ve never been in such high stress situations
It’s their house.
If they don’t wanna see it then leave.
@@theZDOMEyeah, high stress, and probably never ever dealt with it before.
@@fbgmerk8178wow!
The level of unprofessionalism DEMANDS serious retraining of ALL officers involved.
The sobs from the sister when she kept finding more and more blood . She knew their worst fears were true. I felt that to my core.😢
“Is it gel?”
Why the hell are you asking the poor family members that like they’re forensic examiners? This whole department needs to be fired
The gel is the blood that is solidified right? Don't know why he said that though
Only in a perfect world would they be fired. .
If they don't know how to handle these type of crimes, they should have just cleared the home and taped off the crime scene and called in the professionals. What a bunch of dense cops.
The worst part is that they just let the family investigate and find the victim pieces by pieces while casually talking to them like they are coworkers.
@@kristinegangman7756at that point hire the family and fire the cops
The way she questioned “how did they miss that?” While crying is so heartbreaking nobody should experience this, is so traumatizing, and the fact that instead of taking them out of the house to question them he let them standing there on the scene, the way they’re doing the police job and he just standing watching them. 😢
And the irreversible PTSD witnessing those things first hand is really heartbreaking.
You can see the disappointment of the mom when he met the officer 2nd time
1. Just imagine what dat guy was about to get away with
if the mother hadn't called the officers back😮
2. What if the family members were on that guy's side? and
since the officers stepped out (w/out securing the
scene), the family members got rid of evidence??
@@FatLittleOldLadyWe'll never know since the police couldnt keep her off the scene, but idk man she sounded really shocked.
I SOBBED immediately when I heard her say that. 😔 Thats a mom who just started day number one of her PTSD journey. She is going to have a very long path to healing from seeing all of this. Families are one of the forgotten victims to horrendous crimes like this. Especially this family - their loved one killed another family member. Heartbreaking. Gut wrenching.
Rest in peace, Eddie. 💔💔 I hope your family finds peace, healing, and justice.
They should hire his family to work as crime scene investigators. They were finding more evidence than the cops lmao.
That cop literally made those women do something even he himself wasn't supposed to be doing. If they act like this and miss the obvious stuff, imagine how unreliable they really are.
To have a family member take gloves and search the vents and stuff for them… unforgivable. That’s not for an everyday person to do. Not only did they traumatize that poor sister beyond compare, but the contamination is unmatched
@@camicrandel3177 well if you grow up with someone, you tend to know where they'll hide stuff. Like my brother hid behind an access panel in my closet when I told him to hide from our dad. He still finds comfort in small spaces and tiny things. I know if he's upset, he'll be in the closet under the stairs.
@@SaintShiondamn 😢 I’m so sorry
@@SaintShionyea but I think that’s a bit different than a schizo ass meth head hiding a dead body in the vents under the floor and random bins 😂😂
@@camicrandel3177facts, I was thinking the same thing. But if you also think, why would she snitch on herself. I’m pretty sure she was investigating the whole crib once she saw the blood in the bottles then especially after she saw the gore in the buckets. She started to overthink and she had a bad feeling it was maybe her missing cousin.
It’s not that serious. Your opinion that she’s traumatized is a complete assumption. You shouldn’t assume how others feel because that’s projecting how you would feel.
Tbh as someone who’s lived in Alamogordo, this is EXACTLY something the police department would do. They’re inept in many aspects of their police work, they need new training and leadership.
Is it a smaller town?
@@andiward7068 I think it’s around 30,000
@@RandomWrongDeletion That's big enough to have a detective or two. Too bad there weren't on scene.
End DEI quotas.
@@RandomWrongDeletionAlamogordo is like 20,000 without Holloman
this video should be educational material on every police school in a lesson of "100 things you should never do or say"
Hurts to hear the aunt say she wanted him to get help as a child. THERE WAS CLEAR SIGNS. He needed help years ago. I feel awful for his mother but the fact she could have prevented his drug use or even this killing by giving her son the care he clearly needed hurts.
Mental health matters so much yall, even the right therapy or treatment in childhood could do so much in the long run.
Getting mental health help for children isn't that easy. My niece but herself til she bled. Apparently that's not "the right kind" of self harm so no help. And that's in the UK. Parents paid private. I can't imagine what it's like getting in the US when you're likely to lose your home if you get cancer.
@@nicolajackson7992 agree, getting quality mental health for anyone can be difficult if you don't know how to navigate the system. There are a lot of phony facilities that don't really help, or facilities that require health insurance. And while 1-800 help lines are OK for a stop-gap immediate need, that's not therapy. Therapy is expensive.
"she could have prevented his drug use or even the killing" - you are absolutely unfair to his mother, laying all the blame on her.
As if it was so easy - just a call to a therapist and !bam! like magical Steven gets a new personality.
Other parents have tried therapy after therapy, have tried and fought and pleaded for decades - and still lost their kids to drugs. And often these were children with a normal intelligence, from a normal upbringing.
Whilst those who are aggressive and violent from early on, who attack others with knives, often end up really bad, no matter what was tried on them.
Psychopaths cannot be healed, only supervised.
And at one point, the child turns 18 and his parents have no longer the right to interfere with his life.
Steven was already trying to prove he was innocent before they even went into the residence. After the officers enter the home, they walk past two different weapons. Then, 9:40 he said that he ”wanted to kill him“ and he starts telling them that they are gonna find “stuff“ in the house that will make him look guilty. How in the world did the police just disregard this, even though he was on drugs?
I feel they just thought he was talking about the drug stuff and the gun that he wasn't supposed to have on him. The trailer was.trally messy when they went in to get him. My brother is just like Steven. He was diagnosed schizophrenic as a child and then into adulthood he got on meth and is so hard to deal with and understand what my brother would be talking about. But what really gets me is the cops walk back in the house and those other guns are still sitting in the house. Like how tf does this actually happen right? How do the cops not take all the weapons out and check them? I almost wanna say there was some extreme laziness going on.
@@froggynzack Im sorry about your brother, my dad has Sociopathy (ASPD) and was a heavy alcoholic. He stabbed himself in the stomach once saying demons were after him, so I know how terrifying it can be, especially since invisible disorders/illnesses are hard to treat + be very hard to cope with as a family member. I geniunely hope you know you're not alone. I do AL-ANON meetings and those help a lot, you can join the phone meetings, and we welcome people who haven't only had alcoholic parents since there's room for us all. I struggled really hard getting my parents sober and watching a HS friend go to jail for meth. Im so thankful they're all sober now. People never know whats happening behind closed doors.
They probably thought he was just rambling from the mental & drug abuse so they didn't take it seriously.
And people wonder why so many mass shootings happen. Gun laws are non existent nowadays. @@froggynzack
@@red3350they probably hear wild shit like this damn near every day with all the mental health and drug/alcohol issues they are called to deal with
Seemed like Steven wanted to take them down the hall and show them something. Also, when the officer came back and was shown the bottles of blood, why didn’t he immediately take the family member out the house to preserve what was at least left of the crime scene. This is almost like a training video of what exactly NOT to do at a crime scene. Those poor family members. 🤦🏽♂️
Idiot cops!🤦🏽♂️
Family? You mean homicide enablers.
For real. I'm not even a cop and these were also my first thoughts
Even the Sarge said " I don't know". Even just ordinary citizens would know how to do the basics
@@HeartFarts Anyone who has watched crime shows on TV would know better!
“A PUPPY DOG”💀
I 🤦♀️'d hard.
This ENTIRE department needs proper crime scene training and maybe courtroom demeanor and testimony. Wow.. this is so bad 😮
the fact that he was trying to tell the cops & they just thought he was having some kind of episode is crazy. that’s why you need to LISTEN to people when they talk. even when the female cop asked what is it that you’re talking about , he still was trying to take them to the room & show them. we have 2 ears & 1 mouth for a reason.
They certainly lacked all listening skills and seemed to be adamant on following protocol. You can chew gum and walk at the same time. They should have listened to him while following whatever arrest protocol. I’m so sorry for the family and this guy needed psychological help a long time ago. I wish during the Regan Administration, they never stopped funding to the states for psychiatric care. In this day and age, in order to get good mental care you have to be well off with money or in a good paying job with insurance, however the US does not have the facilities they used to have.
You have no idea what you're talking about.
@@robinlee9272you're right, the closing of the institutions "Greyhound Therapy". They unceremoniously dumped patients in the middle of City's across the country. The result was an explosion of homeless people as never seen in this country. These poor souls don't belong on the streets or in jail.
@robinlee9272 Yep! F Reagan! 14M people with serious mental illness, and the state provides only 30,000 spots for mental health treatment nationwide.
@@thecomedypilot58944:08 Hi pilot, you are ok up there in the air, but life on earth is not always a comedy!
People need to give his sister a break she was trying to help and these cops were the ones who were being incompetent and allowed them to contaminant the scene. The officers are allowing his family member to continue to be horribly traumatized, which was so unnecessary . They did way more work than the cops did. Such incompetence.
I mean.... once you see that much blood you know somthing bad happened and not messing up a crime scene is pretty well known
@@quincyharris2512i swear a child would know 'that much blood = bad'. These cops though? Its nuts
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I'm glad she didn't open up that tote or bins...
It’s always easier to blame everyone but the killer/rap*st/actual perpetrator these days. People would rather attack an innocent woman (his sister) than hold Steven accountable for his actions.
Too high to go to booking? I OD'd on lean and they literally dragged me into a drunk tank where I slept for 40+ hours straight. The only reason they took me to a hospital was because my dad was calling them nonstop to check on me, and eventually my dad was like "has he eaten once??? Has he woken up at all??" And THEN the cops finally took me to a hospital. I know i had a lawsuit on my hands but between losing my job from being locked up/hospital, I had to focus on completing substance abuse classes and find work so my girlfriend and I weren't homeless. I even made several appointments with 3 different lawyers and they all told me fighting the state was pointless.
Love how the family (who shouldn't have even been walking through the scene at all,) had to actually _tell_ the cops where to look, and what was there. Legally speaking, they contaminated the scene, but they were clearly more on the ball than the cops were.
The first cops didn't see the evidence. They're stupid for it, yes, but the family clearly didn't either until the cops left, because they didn't say a word until then.
Even if they knew about it when the cops were there, why didn't they say anything? So keep bashing on the cops for not seeing it, when the family who literally lives in the house didn't either.
When the family discovered it, they told the cops where it was. How is that a bad thing? At all? Would you rather her keep quiet and let him get away with murder?
Legally speaking, yes they did contaminate the scene, I agree. The cops could have handled this so much better, but it really all comes down to the cops didn't see the evidence at first, neither did the family, the cops left, the family found it, called the cops, and somehow the cops did something wrong by not having better eye sight than the family who literally lives there.
When the sergeant said “I don’t know what to do” I was like we’re screwed if even the police don’t know how to handle a crime scene.
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They're probably used to give speeding tickets and arresting people for weed, but that's it. Little town police.
I heard that too! I’m sitting here half listening and loadin a bowl when I heard that I’m like pause Wubba wtf did that police just say? Lol it’s not funny it’s horrifying I guess I am kinda nervous chuckling bc my brain is like yeah no I’m not computing that bullshit lol ❤❤
@@SankaCofee422 IKR, We All Felt The Same Way,,,Like WTF Sarge,,,I Jolled One Up When I Watched This As Well Just Makes These Vids A Whole Lot Bettter To Watch💚👌🏼👌🏼
I did more research into it and a person that went to school with the victim said the town isn’t large but small which now makes sense why the officers were not very concerned
I mean, even an occasional watcher of forensic files knows if you think someone’s been murdered you need to secure the scene. I swear some of these cops went to officer doofys school of policing
Special Officer Doofy
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Interns.
Facts bro
I think Steven dismembered the body, but I don't think Steven was the one who killed him. What Steven was saying at the initial arrest coincides with what the friend reported to police about the other two guys shooting the cousin. I think it was just easier to blame Steven and close the case.
I wouldn't believe anyone who dismembered someone. He's out of it.
@@oAgL214 That's why he was the best guy to take the fall for it. That's the type of thinking that lets criminals get away
@kendallszabo9832 99% of the time the most obvious suspect did it...
That cop should be fired for letting family members contaminate the evidence
When the cops were on scene the first time, he uttered "they had a gun to my head." Why didn't they ask _who_ had a gun to his head? He wanted to show them, to explain. Whenever someone seems a little off to me but wants to show and explain things, I just let them. You'd be surprised the kinda honesty people can have when in that state. Could've saved so much time. I feel so bad for his family. They all deserved better.
And they ignored the statement of the sober guy who said other people shot the poor deceased man and left his strung up cousin to clean up because he was family. I hope they are least investigated that. Tragic situation.
That part he sounded crazy so they probably thought it was drug talk. They dont see any "they" so they probably think he's hallucinating. They shouldve listened when he said kill though, but they probably thought it was all crazy talk.
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Anyone who has experience nce with meth heads knows that they will talk nonstop and say the craziest shit.
My sister did every kind of drug, but it wasn't until she tried meth that her mind truly fractured. She barely remembered who I was. Couldn't complete a fully formed sentence for something like ten years. She's been off meth now for about 5 years and she still struggles but is doing much better.
Only thing more tragic than a junkie's death is their life.
My cousin's husband stabbed his own mother to death after smoking meth.
Don't do drugs kids.
It's cuz nobody smart or logical wants to be a cop. So we have people who usually would barely be mall security, as our cops
@@HowieRaps It's more likely that most people commenting on youtube videos are smart or logical. Look one comment up and you see a completely rational explanation.
The officer finds the bottles of blood, and doesn't immediately close the entire house off? good god.
So, I don't know if you just didn't hear the video or if you're deaf, but they were CONSTANTLY SAYING that they weren't even sure if it was blood.
@@-vizer-5737 The officer said it sure looks like blood. That should have been enough! Are you deaf? What a rude comment.
@@angellayaright9009 are you deaf? Because seconds later, he said "I'm not sure though."
@@-vizer-5737 I heard that. And it changes nothing. He was concerned enough to call his sergeant and have the authorities come back. If he even suspects it might be blood then he should have stopped letting the family root around in there and closed off the potential crime scene. He doesn't have to know for sure beyond a shadow of a doubt before taking action :S Your comment was rude. You can disagree with someone without being an @ss about it.
@@angellayaright9009 It's interesting to me that you say I shouldn't be rude, as if 90% of these comments are saying nasty things and being extremely rude, but you go for the one who has a different opinion than yours. Shocker.
I was screaming at my screen through that whole second house visit. The contamination, no securing the crime scene. So frustrating!
This is so frustrating to watch! How incompetent are those officers...
Very.
Are all these cops rookies? This is insane. When they sergeant said he didn’t know what to do I damn near dropped my phone
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Im racist for talking about it, duh.
Literal cold war ongoing and people act like they just gpt released from the garden of eden. A bunch of lazy neighbor forgetters.
Wtf are these comments on?
Including the sergeant!!!
@@headhunterkillerwhat
The guy was literally trying to tell the cops what was going on but they didn’t care! They were just fine with the drug and gun charges.
It's almost like cops view drug users as less than human.
That's BS too..made up laws to make money on poor ppl.
Cause they are on drugs themselves
@@shadowchild8592They are drug users themselves, just another gang in my eyes forever after all the illegal activity they propogate
@@shadowchild8592 cause they are. Addicts can never be cured, therefore they are forever liabilities.
The guys mom: 😔😭
The cop: Hi puppy dawg! 🤠
Living in New Mexico, this is exactly the incompetence you see from APD and many other sheriffs in the whole state. So sad to see them doing the cops job in pure distraught
Lived in New Mexico for 12 years and was born there- can confirm the cops there don’t give af.
The cop (unseen face, inside house) does not seem very bright. He is also inarticulate. To say the policemen were unprofessional is understatement.
I completely agree. that was just unprofessional-ism, that was stupidity.
If you're talking about the one that went to the second call, you're braindead lol
I'll tell you, they were looking more for drugs than anything else.
It's called complacency. Where you are so used to it, you only look for that.
That’s not what complacency means.
That gun handling was worse than complacency. That's an incompetent cop and a weapons instructor who signed off on someone who has no business in the profession. It's rot from the inside out.
My favorite term for it is "Conditional Blindness." Like when a driver is only looking for cars, and their brains won't register a bicycle
@@MikeB12800complacent; not giving a shit. Close enough. 😮
@@Jake-gu7oo Really? I hope that isn't the case and find that hard to believe . Bicycles can enter the 'blind zone' of drivers who can't see them. My point? You don't make a good case to make your point imo. These cops need to be 'retrained' to observe, record and report v putting their paws all over the evidence at a crime scene. Same thing happened at the Ramsey girl's murder scene and why that can hasn't been solved. 'townie cops' are yahoo's and not as educated nor as trained as state and federal cops. Stupid is what stupid does and there's too much nepotism at the townie police departments = incompetence and corruption
I'm only half way through the video and it's insane how bad they're handled the crime scene. Letting family members search the house and touch everything?!?!
I feel sad for those women. Not just seeing what they saw, but also the realization their family member did something horrible to another family member. Kind of crazy that the sister would make a better investigator than the supposedly trained police in that department. I get that it's a small town and this is probably not something they deal with often, but everyone knows how to secure a crime scene. Well... except these officers I guess.
The lady at the beginning stating it smells... how do people miss the smell of death? That sh*t is intense
I am not only shocked at how they handled the crime scene. But i'm more appalled that they let the family members see all of that. Police are supposed to keep the general public from seeing things like that...
Especially their family member. Even after discovery of the ID after multiple bloodstains on different places. My goodness!!!
you are actually a toddler man. "They let the family members see that stuff" yea sure, as if they didn't find it before the cops did, and as if the sister wasn't actively trying to help the police search the house... you have to be on more drugs than steven was on to post this
@-vizer-5737 typically after something like this, depending on the situation the police can recommend a "Disaster Restoration" Company to clean stuff up. If they can't afford it and/or don't have insurance, usually "Victim Services" can help. Most would've been taken as evidence. A lot of people have to move after something like this because of the trauma they experienced in it, or of just knowing what happened there. I think you need patience and forethought, grasshopper.
Have a great day! 🙂
Should the family have to continue to do what the cops are paid to do??? Use your brain..tbh you don’t even have a brain if a toddler you have the brain of an ant.
You clearly haven’t grasped what social media is for huh little man?
This might be one of the most untrained police departments i've ever seen, holy shit dude.
It’s so frustrating that the family were just allowed to stay inside the house touching stuff!
This is just insane, that he continues to let the family members touch things, clean things, walk around, when he suspects there is a jug of blood on the counter. I'm not even a police officer and would know to leave the house and call homicide if someone was missing and there was blood in the house.
This is a very small town and highly unlikely to even have a 'homicide division'. Typically they might have 1 slightly more qualified officer or sgt that they would call for this, tho these officers and all their superiors are highly under-trained, under-experienced, and unqualified for the job... and I wouldn't put much more faith in the designated 'homicide officer'.
Really the state police should be handling this, tho these officers entirely botched up the scene and the evidence.
Former LEO, now retired.
@@markstone1619police don't need a homicide division that's just an easy cop out
@@jaydub2546 Sharpen up on your reading comprehension. I never said a homicide division is always needed for every homicide case.
A homicide division may be 2 detectives on small departments or 50 or more detectives on large departments.
However many homicide cases are very complex and do require numerous detectives and resources to fully investigate and gather/analyze evidence on a particular homicide case.
I can easily see that you have absolutely zero experience in even minor case handling, let alone homicides.
@@markstone1619 You would think the basics of what to look for on any call and how to preserve a crime scene would be taught to every single officer. Not just homicide investigators. No need to be a snarky jerk.
@@angellayaright9009 You miss a lot then put false accusations on the wrong person. The real "snarky jerk' was the person I was repllying to, who said to me "police don't need a homicide division that's just an easy cop ou".
They mishandled this from start to finish, but if they passed on smelling decaying remains, then they are completely inept. It's unmistakable. Makes me wonder...what were the officers actually looking for by "searching" there????????
One of them even commented that the place "smells" and they didn't investigate further. But to answer your question, drugs. They were worried about drugs and that's all.
I figured. But even then, they didn't really investigate any containers either or dig into anything. I thought maybe they were looking for kidnapped females. That's where my mind went as I watched them "search". @@annehaight9963
Drugs &/or guns
That's exactly what I was thinking do Steven has "lump sums" of money or drugs in the house and they have "tunnel vision"?!!!
Yeah they seemed much more interested in the drugs than anything.
It's really sad watching the family involved, in the end they lost both family members.
A tragic loss. My heart goes out to them 🙏♥️
Damn I used to hang out with Steven as kids, my condolences to his mother and family. From the loss of her brother to all the other family members they have lost. I hope they find peace
Perfect training video on what not to do when you are controlling a crime scene
IKR💯💚👍🏼👍🏼
Perfect comment hahaha
These were the clumsiest, most poorly-trained cops I've ever seen! Holy 💩! I'm shocked they got a conviction at all!
They remind me of the ones from the Jeffrey Dahmer case, honestly
@@clearlyseverely3155 for real!
"Here, you can have this clearly not okay young boy back to finish off since you claim he's your lover!" So sick and so incredibly stupid!
Democrat state what do you expect? They want to dEfUnD tHe pOLiCe 🙄
I’m thankful that you have a clear line what you blur out.. this was horrible. I feel so sad for all involved.
This was one of the most schocking discovered crime scenes I’ve ever came across on UA-cam
The dude literally said "I wanted to kill him, and what you're gonna find here will make me look guilty" and this didn't make them look for a body lmao. What the hell.
Maybe because they thought he is just hallucinating or maybe the effect of drugs. Very unprofessional
It's crazy to hear him say all the stuff he's saying knowing why he's saying it when the cops have no clue.... "I wanna prove my innocence" and " I had to get it all out of me" ... "My cousin has a history"
Get it all *off* me.
He was covered in blood.
Yep, I agree. Especially when he said "I didn't kill him". Clueless dumb cops. Just plain laziness and the incompetence was unbearable to watch. SMH
That's what meth addicts talk like though. Sounds weird to you. Pretty normal insane blathering for a meth head.
He literally said “I wanted to kill my cousin” they still thought it was only drugs? How did they even get their jobs?!
I like the way you guys present the cases
The most shocking thing about this to me, is that of all people Steven asked for a lawyer and refused to speak without one.
You learn it when you've been arrested a few times
That’s exactly what you’re supposed to do when you get arrested. You don’t ever talk to the cops without a lawyer. I thought that was common sense 😭
I know! perhaps in a previous arrest his lawyer told him to do that (?). In the majority of all these EWU video analyses, people just keep talking and say dumb things like, "should I get a lawyer?" or "I think I might need to talk with a lawyer, but not yet..." which makes even worse sense than if you just sat there and said nothing.
@@suburbantrapqueen3244 y’all dumb. If you’re guilty, no need for lawyer. Just admit and accept your deserved punishment. Lawyers should only protect innocent people. Not criminals
@@truehappiness4U It's not by any means dumb to try and get out of a bad situation if available. Is it morally right? No, but it is still understandable that the one being incarcerated would at least want a lawyer to ensure that even if they lose the case they can get a lighter sentence
Why does it always seem like the suspect has to have a crazy amount of convictions before they're sent to prison i mean these are dangerous people and should be treated as such and more people are getting hurt in the process
Because there are a lot of people in the legal and "justice" industries dedicated to making sure criminals are protected from the evils of the system. So many criminal defense lawyers, DAs and NGOs dedicated to helping support criminals and criminal activity.
Cause it's actually hard to put someone away for 10 plus years. Lots of paper work, court, explain case 100 times to people. U sit in jail 5 years till they ready. Then they pay for your housing.
what's crazy is the US has the biggest prison population pre capita.. so someone is locking people up
Because it costs millions of dollars to house these inmates and people keep voting out taxes being raised to put more money into these institutions. But wait, Americans don’t like taxes, so instead they just complain instead of fixing the problem they are given an option to. 🤡
@@felix-ve8jk There are thousands of innocent people put in prison every year and hundreds of people *from death row* have been cleared of the crimes *they were almost put to death for!* Most of them are there because the police and the DA hid or manufactured evidence.
Yet here you are, complaining because people actually have rights and an infinitesimal chance against a behemoth that is designed to crush them!
They aren't there to let criminals walk, *they're there to make sure the right person goes to prison or to the afterlife!*
how do y’all find these videos of the crime scenes! I’m genuinely curious . I try to look up body cam footage of certain crime scenes y’all do videos on and I could never find it . I love watching these videos and then once I finish them, re-reading and re-watching the live research myself, but I could barely find any body cam footage of the crime scenes . Amazing videos . Love you guys
Watching this is disturbing. They messed up in SO many ways, it’s totally unacceptable!
I study forensic for 3 years in high school and one of the first things they taught me was to remove everyone from a crime scene to not ruin evidence, this is so shocking how badly this whole situation was handled.
3yrs of forensics in high school? Yeah okay Gil Grissom. What high school teaches forensics? 3 out of 4 years too? I'm calling BS on that.
@@jamesbartz3803 its possible there is a high school that has a forensic program in my state
Okay, I submit then. Thank you. Learn new stuff everyday. Haha
@@jamesbartz3803in my senior year I took 4 classes on criminal justice and crime scene.
@@jamesbartz3803 Uh its called going to Tech? College "prep" classes? Extremely normal. Sorry you're ignorant
These cops act as if they’re all collectively on their first day of the job
New Mexico police
These guys are legit dumber than the students in my field investigation course at the junior college level. We, at least, already had an interest in the science of forensic investigation and some background in personal study.
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I am floored by how this scene was handled. Or rather not handled. Unbelievable.
New Mexico and the entire Southwestern United States is FULL of Stevens.
Watching them mess up the crime scene is almost unbearable 😭
They leave Two guns on the counter the ENTIRE time with suspect and the family. I mean who TF hired any of these people
Apparently the guy who didn't know what to do. This is unreal!
I was wondering if anyone else saw that. That's insane
If I was the sister or the mom I would be FUMING from their incompetence. They have to live with those memories for the rest of their lives. I hope they have worked through it
The fact that a family member was able to comb through a crime scene with a 6 pack of Michelob Ultra is insane to me. Even the officer with his body cam following her back to her vehicle to grab her last three beer.
This is INSANE!!! How the hell did officers miss all this!!! The smell alone should have alerted them!
It was Smokey when they went inside… they probably couldn’t smell anything other than the meth…. 🤷♀️
@@mozzrchik that's what I was thinking...not making excuses for all the other mistakes, but that second-hand meth smoke apparently causes immediate headaches or nausea, and it was in a closed up house that already stunk. Could be why they wanted him outside so badly, to escape the smoke
He literally told them they were gonna find something bad 😢 imagine not finding it
Yeah. The officers were clearly operating under tunnel vision bc just having drugs and a few guns doesnt add up to his comments. Its like no one stopped to question his statements. A simple "And why are you saying that" would have probably been enough
With the other things that he said, I wouldn't be surprised if they just thought it was part of his drug induced delusions.
They really calling out Alamogordo’s lack in law enforcement professionalism in the police force but it’s in NM In general this is why murderers get less time then dealers
As an aspiring crime scene ivestigator my mind is SCREAMING at the lack of knowledge and precautions being taken
Haven’t even started the video, and those bottles creep me out. To think someone would simply store the blood is disgusting.
I was an RA at a university, and we had a student who stored his semen, blood, urine, and feces in water bottles in his room mini fridge. He was immediately kicked out of student housing after an investigation. Some people are just sick, sick puppies.
Weird kink. I've thought of storing my pee or spit Mayne seven if drunk but just up
@@sadhu7191 😂
@@lauren4078 What the fuck
that is so crazy@@lauren4078
I went to school with the victim and he was a very stand up guy he always had your back no matter what everyone and anyone who knew him got along with him r.i.p Eddie aka Shadow. It saddens me how bad the cops are so bad here in our little town condolences again to family to have to go through that!
Damn bro that's rough I'm sorry you lost your homie. Did you also know the suspect?
@@MEDIOCRATES_222 I knew of him but not personally he's much younger I remember him as a kid but I know his family though. Good people!
@@menis420 it's always the good ones that get taken from us
That's wild. Did you just come across this video randomly?
@@a.nobodys.nobody that's crazy cause I know all about what happened and all but I watch all ewu videos and it was random I know his aunt in the video and all. I'm also in a very small town but crime is bad here.
Thanks Raven for having so much knowledge of the judicial system. I really enjoy watching how the bad guys get busted. Please continue to narrate the episodes. The female doesn’t have and neither does the other young man. That’s my two cents. Thank you again.
I can't believe im watching this. The response once the family called them and they seem the blood... they missed .. is deplorable
What a messed up police force. Seriously who trained them?
No one apparently 😂
It's NM.... This is a common occurrence, sadly....
Training doesn’t solve incompetence
What they have in human decency they lack completely in professionalism
It's New Mexico police. I watch a ton of bodycam videos and you can tell from their conduct they are poorly trained and there is a culture of trashy immaturity.
Poor Eddie was already suicidal and suffering from addiction to alcohol and severe health issues from being hit by the semi. And then he gets murdered. So awful. That poor man.
How do you know he was suicidal?
@@DestinySunday-ul7bb I believe his family said that he had recently made statements that he wanted to die and/ or end his life. I mean, things already weren’t going great for him and then he gets grievously injured getting hit by the semi and already has an addiction. I’m not at all surprised he would feel that way. I’d wanna give up too. Poor guy. And then that happens to him. Some people’s lives are so incredibly sad.
Do not say this. Having a hard life does not mean the need to kill yourself.
@@r.r.9282 did you even read what I wrote? I said it was sad he was feeling that way already and going through so much and then was murdered. Have you ever experienced homelessness and addiction and being horrifically injured in a car accident? My guess is probably not. You have no idea the depths of human misery or else you wouldn’t say something so judgmental. There are plenty of valid reasons to feel like ending your life. Just because you have some absurd religious reasons that say it’s a sin or whatever doesn’t negate the fact that existing can be pure torture for some.
Watching this was like trying to tell my kids no more junk food and they keep reaching for the cookie jar.
I feel like no one sees how hurt you really are until it turns into anger 🙁
Everyone at home knows these people should not be touching or moving anything and we are not even law enforcement.
What's especially crazy is how articles covering this case seem to try to make the officers seem far more competent than they are. They even claim the officers found the containers on the counter on the first visit and then came back later with a warrant.
if that were true then the footage of the sister handling the evidence and showing the cops the blood wouldn't even exist
All media is owned by just three companies in the US, and those three companies are owned by the same people. And those people need to lie every second of every day to hide themselves and their deeds. Remember Ep stein.
such stupid copaganda, he clearly had a 4th waiver which is why they didn't need a warrant the 1st time.
I saw that to. Lying. Good thing we have this video.
Oh wow. "Competent" is by far the last word I would ever use to describe this case!
I sincerely hope they use all this bodycam footage to educate officers in the future, on just about every single thing you could possibly do wrong on a crime scene my God…
It's frustrating seeing cop acting like kid's in a crime scene
As an ex user of meth, the psychosis that comes from it is no joke. The things you see and hear makes the reality you thought you knew just get flipped on it’s head. It lasts for days, weeks, even months. Even compared to acid or shrooms, those do not compare to the hallucinations you have while being on a binge. I got 3 years clean, still have all my teeth 😂
Good job getting clean.
I remember Jessie on Breaking Bad paranoid about everyone outside his house, like mailman and JWs. It didn't come off as bad as what you're saying though. Is it so addictive that being terrified from it won't make you stop? :(
You sound like my ex tweaker dad, "I still have all my teeth, I'm a looker in this community!" 💀💀💀
Psychosis is hard enough to live through on its own, i cannot imagine the hell of that experience alongside addiction alone, especially meth. Well done on getting clean i hope you're doing okay
Proud of you! Keep going!!
I'm also in recovery, though my DOC was fentanyl, I know the demon that is addiction.
All the best!
These same incompetent cops will pull you over for a tail light out and act like they are top of the food chain, lol.
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😂😂🤣for damn sure!
Broken tail lights are revenue generators. Let's not pretend that isn't the primary duty of the department.
This is absolutely the wildest video evidence I've ever seen in any true crime case... How is it not a possibility that his defense could argue that someone couldn't have placed evidence after the initial arrest and that's why the first wave of police didn't find anything uncovered in this video?....
After looking the case up, I am immensely impressed he got convicted for 2nd degree murder with how much the crime scene got contaminated
It's amazing how incompetent those cops are. Let's be real here: Everyone, who's ever watched a movie or series with police in it knows, how to handle a situation like that. You instantly pick up the basics. Or you watch EWU on a regular basis 😎
But those officers seem to lack any kind of preparation whatsoever. They seemed to have been picked up of the street where they stood and just thrown in front of this trailer. "This is your task: Find out what's wrong here. The man inside will give you a lot of hints to help you out"
And they just went: "Nah... I can do this on my own, thanx"
I know right? The whole situation is like a final exam at a detective school that these guys failed spectacularly. It even reminds me of a crime scene test I was given in a low level criminology class. The instructor created a fake crime scene for us to investigate and played the roles of the suspects and bystanders for us to question.
I bet you wouldn’t do any better. Watching fake shows and movies, how laughable
@@theZDOME difference is we're not trained police officers they are
Diversity hires.
this is what happens when you lower the standards or dont require adequate training. Look at the situation in Illinois where a federal lawsuit was filed for wrongful death because a woman cop could of and should of used her taser on a woman running towards another officer with a large kitchen knife and he had to shoot her even though he told the woman cop to use non lethal before the situation, told her to pull out her taser (she didnt) and then taze the woman attacking him with the knife but she doesnt and she just stands there watching the situation.
It was so eerie to me when the mother led the officer in the house to the bottles of blood while being completely silent. That part creeped me out the most.
You could feel the disgust she had for them. She was already aware this case was gonna be a shit show.
This blows my mind how they handled this !!!! It's common sense to not let anyone touch evidence wtf 😳
You have a really great voice man!
Addiction is seriously such a huge deal in our country. It's taking over and I wish we could get people the help they need BEFORE things like this happen. It's so sad and insane how bad it is. My mom and sister have both struggled with addiction. It's so awful to see someone you love going through something so horrible. I really hate it so much.
Lol
Chealsea life is a choice loser
Are your mom and sister doing good now?
If you think watching it is difficult try living through it
@@bunnyluver2176 no common sense is too strong for some of us
It's so frustrating seeing such incompetency, as a forensics graduate. What they did while doing their search is called tunnel-visioning, and as such, they only narrowed their search to what they wanted to find (likely drugs and drug paraphernalia). A proper search looks through the wide scope of the property and looks at *everything* for other potential evidence. Also massive rule of thumb, when doing a search, nobody else is supposed to be around in case other potential evidence is tampered with or even disposed of. Super careless cops.
I’ve watched a few crime scene tv shows and I know you don’t walk around touching things. Congratulations on graduating, it’s a very interesting career that’s for sure. The police were totally incompetent.
@@doreenblatz2440 cheers. And yeah, absolutely, even with gloves, you don't touch things. You take photos of the evidence in it's natural state, as well as the surroundings from 3-4 angles. You gotta put your curiosity aside for these things and not fiddle with the items
one more comment, this has been a good watch, the police where I live are for the most part about exactly like this. not sure where it is but this feels exactly like dealing with them here in tennessee for SURE. small very southern town
The way the cop just stands there dumb founded staring at the jugs of blood... you know the only thing running through his head is " oh we fucked up... we fucked up soooooo bad"... so much wrong with these cops, I have so many questions for that police department 🤯
My lips are numb with shock. I just can't even get my head around the horror this family must feel.
No kidding.
It's not normal to have a fan on pointing at a closet to keep the smell from wafting into the rest of the home.
That cop swapping firing hands on the pistol while clearing rooms lol 😅
I’ve shook my head just said wow about a hundred times already and I’m only half way through. 😢
I feel horrible for this poor family. You can even beg the courts to force a loved with a mental crisis into a psychiatric facility but You have to wait till the person becomes a danger to themselves or others, the very thing you are trying to prevent. Just heartbreaking
Bring back mental asylums they existed for a reason.
@@user-gm7oo7rd2p look up the exposés that caused most of them to be shut down in the 70s and 80s those places were absolutely horrible where people with relatively mild learning disabilities or more severe anxiety or depression were lobotomized and mixed in with people who were dangerous, they would not care for the patients at all and let the ones who couldnt care for themselves sit in piles of their own shit, many of the patients being children. we need more empathetic mental health services, even people who go to the psych ward because theyre suicidal are still mistreated by staff and taunted, verbally abused, sexually exploited, and more. you may think it best to shove these people to the outskirts of society because you dont want to see them or hear about it, but these dark sides of society are like a cancer that will spread until someday they might reach someone you love who just needs help but instead only gets ridiculed and abused. have some compassion.
@@user-gm7oo7rd2p oh man. That is a uh loaded statement there bud.
@@user-gm7oo7rd2p there was an awful lot of abuse in mental asylums which was pretty much just a place for throw aways. What these ppl need is good psychiatric care and correct medication and case workers trained in the field of psychiatry.