Ford Mustang GT 5.0 10 Speed vs Dodge Charger SRT 392, V8 battle! Drag and Roll Race.
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2022
- Ford Mustang GT 5.0 10 Speed vs Dodge Charger SRT 392, V8 battle! Drag and Roll Race.
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Word of advice. Don’t use the paddles on a 10speed. It isn’t a gt500. It doesn’t have a dct. The paddle response on the 10 speeds isn’t the same. Just let the transmission do it’s thing
Agreed!!!!
I agree ! Only reason scatpack was “catching up” first round was because the horrible shifting of the guy driving the 5.0 😂
Haha I just commented about on that, even on the gt500 you don’t need to do that
@@Amunoz4 exactly
Gotta let the 10speed eat man! Good races though🔥
I own a 2020 Charger Scat Pack and I knew how this was going to go down. I have mutual respect for both cars. The Mustang is no slouch and has a crazy top end. Most races with mustangs end the same way. But come on, the hate on the Dodge is ridiculous. This platform has been out there forever! Let’s not forget about weight either. 700 pounds is still 700 pounds. One is a 4 door sedan, the other is a coupe. The Mustang is faster no doubt, but two different kind of cars. No need for hate guys. Just enjoy the content.
Yeah people tend to forget the charger is a damn 4 door car pit it against a 4 door ford car see how well that goes. 😂
I don't see any "hate" you mentioned you probably delusional or something.
And for the comment above it's funny cuz iv seen alotta 10 speed 5.0 wit the same amount of power walking a Challenger Hellcat. And that's a "coupe" 🤣
💯💯💯
i respect people like you because u actually know the limits of your car. mopars would be so much more respected if the owners werent cocky douchebags...most think stock for stock they can beat all muscle cars which aint true at all😂 i think it wouldve turned out better for the challenger, since its a little lighter, but still a good race either way
@@justadakota1822 problem is fords only sports sedan they had in the US "recently" is the Taurus SHO, which isnt even 400hp. they do offer the ford Falcon outside of the US market which would be a better match. like 450-500hp s/c v8 but barely anybody knows what they are
That's how I expected it to go. The mustang is just so much lighter and has crazy good top end, and those 5.0s are beastly with mods. The charger is a very nice car for completely different reasons. I think they look great and if you need a big roomy 4 door, but still want a great sounding V8 you can't go wrong with a charger. Great races.
The Mustang isn't light. It's just that the Charger is so heavy.
@@burnzillablue it's light by comparison. Besides, every modern vehicle has gained weight. I'd say between 3700 and 3800 lbs is about the average for most modern midsize performance cars these days. Dodges are all just bigger and heavier across the board.
@@burnzillablue
I have an 03 Mach 1 and it weighs 3420 LBS and I thought IT was a fat pig.
@@331Grabber I owned an 04 mach 1, an 03 supercharged mach 1 and then an 03 built, stroked to 5.0L and supercharged mach 1. The last one had mild weight reduction and weighed 3400 lbs with me in it. It had 800 hp. Back then I thought 3400 lbs was still too heavy, and now, I'd give anything to go back to those weights lol.
That's what makes the new supra so appealing to me. It looks amazing and weighs less than 3400 lbs lol.
I think that most Dodge people thought the Charger would win because they think Dodge over everything.
I can't stress enough how much I appreciate the excellent audio quality when revving those engines. I happen to be an audiophile/car enthusiast and I highly appreciate your work it's by far the most detailed. 👍
Im Mustang all the way but I say the same things. The car community has become way too toxic.
We all knew how this would go, mopars are just to heavy. Have you ever done a EcoBoost vs the 5.7?
the older chargers are actually better than the new ones. the newer ones have to much wheel spin which makes the 0-60 and accel. slow. but i do like both vehicles because of how good they look
In that case weight difference or not EcoBoost has more power than a hemi especially the power boost
The 5.0 also has way better top end performance.
@@jeromethomad6160
Another reason: small turbo engines can put max tourqe more earlier than n/a engines
I had an ecoboost now I have a 5.7. The 5.7 feels faster. I believe the 5.7 wins that race but barely
I love the sound and torque of 6.4, but love the high revving nature of the 5.0. I personally own a 2013 GT and love it, just wished I had more torque.
Bore it up. You'll have more torque.
I'm more of a fan of the low revving hemis. To each their own!
Time for a whipple....
I had my 12 GT tuned. I hated how the torque felt under 4k. Now it feels a lot better.
@@MrBspace I am planning on getting a 93 tune and 3.73 gears. I hate my 3.15s.
Cool race! No one ever does comparisons with these two stock vehicles.
Solid runs for both cars, its about how i imagined it going with the weight difference. It's also nice to see apples to apples comparison too for a change too, and not a GT500 vs the 392 or a hellcat vs the gt. Good video folks
I pretty much knew how this one was going to go just based on the weight difference, but I did think that the mustang would have crossed the finish line a little farther ahead of the charger than it did.
I like them both, good video, and thanks.
The torque difference helped it stay in early. The ends all power/weight.
It doesn't help that the drivers weren't using the 10 speed trans to its full potential, but they also don't daily these things so I wouldn't expect them to know.
Love the pulling power of the 5.0 and the low end torque of the 392
For roll racing the Mustang, you need to put the shifter in "S" (doesn't matter which drive mode you're in, though preferably drag mode for roll racing) and then tap a paddle shifter. This puts the transmission into FULL MANUAL mode (if you tap paddle while in "D" on shifter, it's only temporary manual mode...so you can only hold a gear for a few seconds before it goes back to automatic shifting). Then...AS SOON AS the race begins and you floor it...gently pop the shifter back into D.
Doing roll racing this way allows you to get the best start and the best shifting. You start in the optimal gear immediately without having to wait for the transmission to "kick down", but then by popping it back into "D", you can then let the transmission upshift automatically at full throttle which it always does better than paddle shifting.
Great advice. I do this in my 2016 s550
You start out that way but then move the shifter back into D once you go then back to S and just let the transmission do its thing. Actually with my tune I can down shift and floor it and the transmission will shift on its own so I can leave it in whatever mode I want and start in whatever gear I want but the transmission will shift itself after.
Better idea is to just buy a 6 speed...
@@shawnsanders9450 That's what I said to do...
@@UmbraSicarius69 maybe if you find it more fun...for speed tho...absolutely not
Another Awesome race right to the point, fair race and you don't annoy people with selling stuff at the beginning of your video. Your the best on you tube!!
You give the people what they asked for a good race.❤ between to great cars
That 10 speed is just stunning
Put me in the camp that I hate that Mustang's even come with an automatic (except for GT350). I get disgusted every time I have to work on one.
@@ghostwrench2292 Then don’t work on one. I can say the same thing about the interior of a dodge, its old and hasn’t changed
@@GaryD9988 I'll work on them because I get paid to. It just makes me sick when I go in the parking lot to get it and find that it's an automatic. Like who TF buys a Mustang with an automatic?
People that want to gap Scats buy the 10 speed auto lol.
@@ghostwrench2292 in 80s 5.0 days, I'd wholeheartedly agree, if for no other reason than fun factor. Today, the manual is the only reason (fun)....but autos simply can't be beat.
Just a week ago I got to race a 392 scat charger in my 2016 stang. Three 70 rolls, a 60 roll and a 40 roll. I'd say we had similar/even mods, my car makes about 500 to the wheels. Results were almost exact to this video, I made a friend that day it was a ton of fun 😂
We should be thankful both cars have existed up to this point. The visual results match the “ on paper” times. Mustang turns more rpms and is lighter. The lesson about higher rpms was learned in the 90’s Honda era. Ford took major notes with the design of the Coyote engine. The larger displacement of the 392 cant make up for the weight disadvantage and rpm disadvantage. Had the 392 been 500 lbs lighter this story doesn’t play out this way. Great run by two great American cars. Sincerely a former 2017 R/T Blacktop owner 🫡
What mods you did to your mustang to get 500 to the wheel? Wanna know for my car
About? So no dyno just guess work.. youd have beat him by alot more with “500rwhp” 4.6 3v with work will beat 392s with FBO+cams… which is 350ish whp…..
@@TenPennyTowers 350 whp for the SRT? A stock R/T makes 340whp
@@mk8bluebeast you misread. Im talking about a 4.6 3v mustang makes 350rwhp FBO.
Dam that mustang is a beast 😳
A pony got to run. 😉
Nope, it's just a regular stock 10spd Gt man!
@@scarface9617u act like every car comes mod chilll 😂🤣
@@vaeetq I'm saying.. the stock 10spd Gt runs out very well.. straight off the floor! 🤝🏼💯
Love this Muscle car race! I am biased I have a 2018 392 Daytona however I know the Mustang 10 speed 5.0 should have the Advantage at the top end speed. Nice job guys 🍻
I salute you sir.. atleast you're one of the very few that has the balls to admit it 🤝🏼 everyone else.. 392 will dog.. walk.. the Gt in the 1/8 & it's faster in the 1/4 also! 🙄🤣
@@scarface9617 the 392 have more top speed dodge has always been faster in the 60s
@@theradchase3094yeah over 6 decades ago… ford has been winning for awhile now lol.
Thank u for this video I’ve been waiting for one a while now
What gears make the 2017 jump faster and still get top end I know for the 2013s it was the 3.73s I could be mistaking but plz help
The MooStang has some lungs! Solid run for both cars! Definitely can't minimize what Dodge has accomplished with its Charger, Challenger and Trackhawk platforms! As a Boosted S550 owner, its been a great time to be a car enthusiast fun to watch the big 3! Now we all get Electric Cars with hi-fi exhaust notes coming from under car mounted speakers controlled by your phone... I'M NOT READY!!!!
Boosted built 392 6 speed owner, no surprise here! I’ve owned some v6mustangs when I was young but could not agree more. I’ve even given Chevy a chance! Next up are these electric ones, I’m a young guy now but still am not ready. 😂🇺🇸
Well don't worry.Theres alot of problems with EVs and their practicalities.
Gave you a thumbs down for the name you called the Mustang.
Great races! That weight difference is just too much. Actually kinda surprised the Mustang didn’t win by a little more.
Because it’s not on actual race tires or modded
@@NATURALGAMING what do you mean?
@@Brian_RobinsonK11 the mustangs usually kill SCATPACKS more or are falling them worse when the mustang is being used properly and when it has its proper set up those tires aren’t race tires they look cheap and the driver was using paddle shifters which you don’t use on a aggressive ass 10 speed transmission
I think it would have if he wasn’t using the paddles
@@NATURALGAMING when I was stock I was neck to neck with 10r80s some times beating them now I’m beating almost fbo 10 speeds 🫡
Your getting close Sam! Just get the 10 speed lt1 vs the gt 10 speed! Love the content!
The 10 speed that Chevy has is better tuned and shifts better than the ford trans. Seems to be a bit faster. But I’m not sure if the SS 10 speed got the same tuning the zl1 10 speed gets 🤷♂️. But the zl1 10 speed walks circles around the 10r80 of course it’s also a more expensive car so who knows. I know tuning helps the 10r80 big time though.
The lt1 isn't the base model. Try the GT against a 10-speed SS. Then we would have a race.
@@joshreynolds729 It beats the mustang, because a zl1 camaro has 650 HP, the mustang has 460. That's 190 more HP than the mustang. It better beat it. The transmission has nothing to do with it. The 10-speed in both was a co-venture between Ford and GM.
According to Car and Driver and Motortrend, the Mustang is faster by up to 0.2 seconds and 2mph trap speed
@@joshreynolds729 yeah idk what ford did to their 10 speed but the one in the maro feels a lot nicer. would love that tuned version of the trans in the mustang, would be a great power plant
I have the same mustang and I'm shocked! I won't track my car but it's nice knowing if it came down to it, it can do this.
Put some respect on the 10 speeds 🤣 ...Good Race 🐎🏁 🐝
Depends on who’s driving
This video went EXACTLY how I expected it to go
5.0 > any engine fiat dodge makes
Looking at the numbers I thought it would be tighter. Even predicted that the Mustang probably will pull away at the start but the 4 door might creep up. But the Pony just walked away. Every time.
@@CoyoteFTW not engine but weight. That’s a 3800lb car vs a 4400lb car. If that 392 was in the Mustang & that 5.0 was in the Charger the Charger would’ve performed worst & the Mustang would’ve done better. The 392 is more powerful in HP & Torque. No match if where talking “ Engines “ only
Wish Every 392 owner would see this and stop acting like they can smoke a 5.0 mustang
Only with sufficient bolt ons will a 4 door 392 be competitive against these 10 speed mustangs
Good job. Clean starts on almost every race.
It was Beautiful seeing my 10 speed Automatic Mustang GT in Action and Dominate !!! ;)
Man ! The 10 speed in the mustang is just killing it
@FearGhidorah Me too !!!
😅😅😅😅
@@andrewrae50 You must drive a pinto! Lol
@@planet_mustang No. I have 4 cars - and my 2 fastest run 11.45 stock and 9.9 stock respectively- so nice try kid. These are SLOW old crap boxes. Especially that 2007 Chrysler - too funny
@@andrewrae50 I know the chrysler is Slow Kid !!! Lol
I like how these guys test. The video & audio quality is perfect. Reminds me of real people I know👍🏾
Nice review keep up the good work Sam
Them Stangs are quick. Impressive considering it’s the smallest v8 in any American muscle car.
Only in cubic inches...actually they are huge with the most moving parts
@@vinceh.1028 But it is very light for the size. Quad cams take up some space for sure.
The smallest displacement but most advanced V8 from any domestic manufacturer DOHC, 32 valves, VVT on intake and exhaust plus the 10 speed. The Mustang’s powertrain is more like something you would find in a Porsche or Mercedes.
@@khakiswag Thats not always a good thing when they age. You have probably never replaced cam phasers in a Ford. With low miles, it's fantastic, but you are forgetting about the C8 Z06 with the most NA hp V8 in the world with only 5.5L.
That 10 speed that Ford started using makes a huge difference. The Dodge has no chance unless it is a perfect launch, having said that, still respectable considering how heavy the car is.
10 speed doesn’t make the difference it’s just the weight. To be 700lbs lighter and only win by a car is pretty bad tbh
The strange part about the 10-speed in the Fords, is that it was a co-venture between Ford and General Motors.
@@Koke6.4 No, you are incorrect. The 10-speed makes a difference as well.
@@Koke6.4 10 speed is a fat performance enhancer. 7 gears primary and 3 over drive vs the 8 speed 6 primary and two over drive.
2018+ Mustang GT 10 Speed
First - 4.70
Second - 2.99
Third - 2.15
Fourth - 1.80
Fifth - 1.52
Sixth - 1.28
Seventh - 1.00
Eighth - 0.85
Ninth - 0.69
Tenth - 0.64
Reverse - 4.87
Vs 8 speed
1st 4.71
2nd 3.14
3rd 2.10
4th 1.67
5th 1.29
6th 1.00
7th 0.84
8th 0.67
Reverse 3.32
@@MS07B3-G0UF so why is it only winning by a car
A actual real race of high quality and finish footage. Good job, thanks
Love the unbiased video bro! Love it!
I owned 4 mustangs over the past 20 years.. love them.... I have a Scat Charger now because I needed room for the kid.... This is how every race with an A10 goes for me.. top end they get me.. a lot of times ill pull ahead at first but by the end they come around.
Yet every scat pack wants to race my GT500. Irony
I am super impressed with the charger! A 4 door family car performing like that and keeping up with a sports car such as a mustang with over 450hp is truly a check mark ✅ in my book.
the charger got 485 HP tho
@@ItzDelta the mustang has 20 horsepower less and weighs 700 pounds less
But the Scat pack is a muscle car thoe
So mustang not a muscle car now?
Family car? Come on bro😂
Hey Sam can you do alfa Romeo guilia quadrifolio vs mustang 5.0 automatic or Chevy SS curious since the alfa is rwd but has twin turbo v6 and make 500hp or so
Had a solid race on the highway with my 19 scat charger against a 10 speed mustang. Lost by a fender from 70-120 and honestly was surprised he didn’t pull more.
Expected this outcome! Great race nonetheless. Sam can we see a stock 3.0t Q50 luxe vs a 2.5t Sonata N line ?
Not even in the same Boat
Right the sonata slow compared to the Q50 been behind both. My ex took the N-Line back & got the top dog stinger she said big difference
@@thehoward4026 Now the stinger vs the q50 would make sense. The 3.0TT vs 3.3TT or 2.0T vs 2.0T
@@ClassCraZeTV yea that stinger I think will win especially AWD
My buddy has a N-line and swears he will gap me or be toe to toe. I drive the q50
10 speed GT vs 10 speed SS next plz🙏
This is why i upload my mustang pov videos, you just gotta love em
I remember when you were at 70k and here we are way over 100k keep it up 👍
🎉 Thank you.
I love both cars. I have a 2019 rt challenger and I didn’t buy her to race but man does she sound awesome and still quick…I think my next car could be a 10spd since ford is seeming to invest more into the interior
As long as you enjoy it, that’s all that matters. I have a ‘19 GT and love it, but I have much more fun in my wife’s Miata, and it’s not even close! 👍
@@wg8290 little cars are always super fun, no idea why. It's like driving a go kart.
I mean is faster and always had better interior than a mopar
It’s not quick, I eat RT’s in my stock civic type r
@@YTkingcherry Maybe a ragged out 2010 charger 5.7. A 485 hp 6.4L hemi would eat a civic for breakfast
Love the blue on that 392.
I have a 2020 GT 6-spd PP1 and Magnaride. It isn't 0-60 fast, but where I live in the Arkansas Ozarks, 3rd gear is all I ever need. That is 60-110 and it is a rocket on too end. Truly fast for a stock car. No hate on the Charger/Challenger because it is also great for a true 4-seater.
_Is that faded black in the middle of the chargers taillight a design or a light flaw? I see a TON of dodges chargers, Durangos and more with that dim light in areas._
Good old 'Merica race right here! Great video Sam brother!!! 🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁
You can see the frustration in the Charger owner's face - LOL. Hey! I'm just sayin, I own a Durango RT Tow N Go and installing a new 3.0 Whipple supercharger on her to take care of these Fords!
Great video.
Do g70 3.3 vs mustang 5.0
What 😂
I own a 2013 Boss 302. Have avoided driving an s550 because I love my Boss so much. I would think the best launch would be launch control 5200-5500 rpm. Works for me
Not in and auto on street tires. It would just smoke the tires
Thanks Sam for the emazing race , The Mustang gt 10 speed is a beast l totally agree that paddle shifter is not a good option for drag race , l would like to see the race between the mustang and 2018 m4 or m340i
Sam, do a race with a Cadillac CT 5-V, Genesis G70 and a Kia Stinger.😀
A 650 horsepower car vs 300hp cars??? For what??
@@layne4376 ahhh the "V-Series". My fault.
I love the Mustang it’s such a beast.
Very good races tho
That mustang sound at high rev is so addictive.
The 2022 Mustang GT is 450hp 410lb.-ft of torque. It is nice to see, it didn't matter. I love the sound of the 392.
Charger 392 is still the best option for everyday use......more room!
Right. But these videos don't never show a top end race in which it would quite all these 5.0 lovers all the way down. Always these short road races lol. 5.0 top speed 162 mph and the chargers 187 mph . So let them get squirrel nuts rocks off.
Can you please start timing your runs so we can see actual times / mph?
They actually started doing this a while back, but stopped all of a sudden.
I agree!
Could you guys add the link to get the SRT badges on the front and back of the 392 Dodge Charger thanks
Shoot that made a great showing! It's a full on family sedan with room for your friends and giant trunk, space and comfort and it still came within .1- .2 seconds of a the peppy coupe!
That owner in a charger is so mad, he can’t believe he bought that car lol
that's why you gotta get a hellcat if you're getting a charger. I can't beat a gt500 yet but I can get the gt350 in mine. 5.0s don't have chance. but that gt500 something serious
@@iamsamfortunebrg8772 the sad part is, charger 392 is not fast enough, it’s a not a track beast or anything or you can’t even tune them for cheap since it’s a N/A with no turbos. I don’t know why people buy those lol
@@98765432139267 not everyone buys to race. You hating on something successful. You act like scats weren’t dragging Gen 2’s before the 10spd 😅
@@dstaten78 right
Doesn't matter how fast the mustang is, at night every mustang owner is scared of those headlights and tail lights.... that's why there's so much hate for the charger...
Not surprised soon as I saw the curb weight difference between them.
I guess the newer charger with the 6.4 engine are slighty quicker but still would lose to Stang considering weight , Aero, transmission.
CAI wouldn't make much difference either.
As expected. Even though the Charger has the displacement and HP advantage, the Mustang has the better power to weight ratio.
But what about the top speed ? So 5.0 162 top speed is faster than the chargers top of 187 mph I'm confused 🤔
@@vtruckthomas6343 True, but the Mustang pulls hard to it's limited top speed of 160.
@@scottieray At 162 the Scat turns into a whole another beast it just keeps pulling hard to 180 plus
@Vtruck Thomas mustangs limited to 160 but hard limited to 182 after the first.
@@vtruckthomas6343 you act as if the mustang can’t hit 180+ stock with governor removed. Any car will keep pulling because that’s what it’s made to do. The mustang GT can hit 183 with governor removed. And 187 for a scat pack? No more like 185 barely.
Now, which one would you rather take to Vegas with three of your friends?
The mustang I rather get 18mpg than 10mpg and still eat any 392 for breakfast lunch and dinner haha 😂
Moparrrr! 3 adults as passengers all our shit in the trunk. We're crushing super comfortable and pulling up sounding, looking mean
Charger
@@babyfacenelsoncominatya1492 I actually took mine to Vegas and I got 26 mpg from Sacramento to Vegas.
@@babyfacenelsoncominatya1492 must not know about MDS. I get 27-28mpg on highway if I drive it easy.
Pretty clean races. Great job.
Thanks 👍
My good friend Ken used to take his foot off the gas pedal when shifting his 1992 Honda Accord as well.
Don't see why people use the paddle shifts in these cars, the auto transmission shifts faster on their own. The 10 speed in the Mustang GTs is awesome, they shift fast and hard plus the GT is a lot lighter so it will take the win everytime.
Love how the 5.0 sounds, and its 10 speed and its rear end but not a fan of the rest of the styling inside and out.
I would never actually buy one.
We already know how I feel about the 392. 😍😍😍 Contusion blue is such a beautiful colour.
Hahaha it's called contusion blue??! Nice name Dodge. Ruptured capillary colored. Wtf? 🤣
@@thomasferrarojr.9772 Haha yes! Dodge is always having fun with the names. ToRRed, Sublime Green, Yellowjacket, Hellraisin, Plum Crazy...Contusion Blue, Go Man,Go etc
That's why I own both 2021's because it was hard picking one over the other😊
@@earlstevens8958 most excellent
I love and trust your content!!!
With that said;
As an American Man/Dad (40-ish) who lives in a car-climate, I’m taking the Charger!
It’s bigger in every way, 4 doors, and Huge Trunk with back seat Pass-Through.
At 120mph almost as fast as a 2-seat Mustang GT;
For the money it’s Laughable!
Now this is a battle 392 vs GT
Would love to see the 6 speed against the srt 392!
They don’t stand a chance
@@just_a5.7 Ive beat scats off rolls so anything could happen
A 6 speed manual stang will lose hands down. I’ve owned both
@@bwayne_nobatman I have one now and I have beat one so it may just be all about the driver
How about 6speed vs 6speed challenger? Keep it equal manual vs manual auto vs auto
I love what the owner of the charger did with his taillights 👌they look so sick
I couldn’t see them since the mustang kept winning
What is the status with the Dragy? Would love to see numbers!!
Did they post the 1/4 mile time?
I'm a dodge guy, it's so annoying how those dodges be losing every damn race🤣
My Uncle owns and 18 RT and I own a 2013 GT both cool cars. I wanted a Scatpack with low miles on it, but I just decided to go with the GT since it was cheaper and had only 16k miles.
It gotta be these UA-camrs because on the streets it’s a different story
@@kal6844 My 1200rwhp ZL1 1LE eats demons and shelbies on the streets and the track. Hurt a lot of red eye owner's feelings over the years.
@@Legionnaire_777 in forza?
@@Legionnaire_777 nobody asked lol you're a snack to a dragpak 😂
With all due respect, just imagine if you guys actually raced the mustang properly. TC all the way off, drag mode on, selecting proper gear from roll and most importantly… Letting it shift on its own!! It would have slaughtered the 392 even more!
Nah this is pretty much how all stock vs stock races between these two mustang always wins by a car
@@beliveau4943 Nope.. I’ve raced my mustang millions of times against tons of different cars. Rolls, digs. 30, 40, 50, 60. In first gear, second gear, third gear. There’s a big difference between leaving all the nannies on and not selecting the proper gear versus when you take everything off.
I actually have first hand experience, I don’t just watch videos. I have plenty of track data, as well as dragy data against many many cars.
@@ivan199120 I've raced mustangs with my scat pack and won every race.
@@ivan199120 I have a 5.0 as well guy we aren't talking about other cars specifically a 392 with the challenger it's a little bit closer but the mustang always comes out on type idk wym by you've actually raced it like we all don't go to Mexico lol
@InYoFace it's th 460 hp 10 speed not the 450 but if you do tc off and instead do manual for the 392 the outcome is the same both cars perform better im not saying it doesn't make a difference in the grand scheme of things I mean for this race against a 392 5.0 always wins by a car
That 10R80 puttin in that work in the stang!!
Never been a ford guy but these 5.0 mustangs have grown on me lately. I have a 09 srt8 charger right now and i can say the weight and the size helps it feel planted around corners. Both sound good too. The torquey grunt of the hemi and the revving scream of the coyote.
Do a Ats-V vs the Mustang
15 extra horsepower in the charger won’t compensate for the nearly 700 extra pounds of weight in the Dodge
25 extra HP. And it's not all about the weight...if the Mustang driver knew how to drive it, it would've been worse.
People keep saying the Charger has more room, ok get a suv if you want more room. The scat is fast till you have something else next to it. That sound fool a lot of buyers
Apparently there is replacement for displacement. lol
Nice run from the Charger though, I wouldn't kick either out of my garage.
Good race that’s what 3-4/10ths and 3 mph in the trap looks like. I understand ppl complaining about running the Mustang against the heavier Charger but they both sticker north of 40K (some
Scats over 50K) so I say let em race. LT1 Camaro on stock 245 would have lost against the GT from a dig and been neck and neck with the Dodge. On a roll the LT1 would likewise put a beat down on the Charger and hang right there with the coyote (they didn’t get to crazy speeds). Thanks for the video Sam!
Wait so you think a GT can beat an SS in a dig race? Chevy has a much more torque worthy motor than the GT. I think you got that backwards. Mustangs are roll cars unless modified and even then the to 330 ft is garbage. They shine in roll races though due to the top end. The only reason it won here is because it has a newer transmission and 2 more gears meaning tighter gear ratios paired with higher revs on top of being about 600lbs lighter. And the GT premiums go for 46-54k ish. Honestly I would get the GT before the scat though it’s easier to modify to make gains as no real build is needed of the motor.
@@joshreynolds729 Look up Car and Driver reviews, or Motortrend. Mustang even has a better 0 to 60 than the 10 speed ss. Also better 1/4 and trap speeds. It's not just the torque. The gear ratios maks a difference too.
Respect for the mustangs! theyre fast! but props to the Scat Pack charger for setting the bar for others to compete, great race between 2 awesome cars! Weight difference made the outcome as it should, i personally love the look of the Chargers
You mean the 2004 terminator setting the bar?
wtf did they set the bar on??? 4500lb sports cars and outdated interiors?
The mustang has been around far longer than the charger
“Set the bar”😂😂 that’s some mopar delusion. Their 6.4 since it came out in 2011 was basically just catching up and it never eclipse it’s competition.
Roll race with Drag Mode is the best way to roll race with 10 speed GT.
What's with the delay when you mash the gas? Are all new cars like that? Great race
10 speed automatic , 3700 pounds combined with the 4 and a half horses really you cannot go wrong can’t wait to see what they do with the next generation.
The slo mo at the end of every race like it was close 😂
It actually shows how bad the scat got beat
I would love to see and Ecoboost vs the 392 out of curiosity hehe 🙃
As the owner of a GT 5.0, I like this video a lot. Mine's a few years older though so 'only' 435 hp; I know it could beat a 5.7 but not so sure about the 392. Mine has the 6 speed and while it's great fun to drive, I'd much rather drag race it if it had the 10 speed automatic. Consistent, never misses a shift, and isn't near as breakable as the MT82 is reported to be.
should have used a scatpack challenger they are like 200lbs lighter
Wouldn't matter
@@s550tv8 meh would have been closer and at least fair cuz coupe vs coupe and a challenger scat walks a stock charger scat
@@bailey4273 bro I gap snack packs all day stock for stock it wouldn't have matter trust me. Now on Bolt ons E, Even boosted scatpacks on max effort E85 8psi of boost doesn't do it and can't beat a Mustang. Just trust me lol.
@@s550tv8 wdym a 5.0 would gap a challenger scat stock for stock lol it couldnt even gap the charger and the challenger weighs 200lbs less lol it would have been a good race. all of the modding stuff you’re saying is mostly true but that has nothing to do with the video
@@bailey4273 wtf you talkin about I do this shit. Even before stock lol fuck the videos your seeing this shit real life😂
Imagine a GT350R with a 10R80? 😮
Oh god. Please no. I just threw up in my mouth a little.
Would be interesting to see a 10r80 hooked up to that engine. I see so many GT350s get gapped by 10r80 5.0s, this would turn the tables big time.
@@ghostwrench2292 Full agree. You got the "regular" GTs and the GT500 if you want an auto (or DCT). The GT350, and especially the GT350R, aren't built for street drags and the Tremec makes it so much better of a driver's car.
@@KamikazeSOF2 not to mention the sound of the 350 🤌🏼 main reason I'd want a 350 over my 10 spd tbh
There’s a guy in my town who converted his GT350R. He has the 10R80 and a 3.8 whipple on it.
Wow wow sam. I really enjoy watching you video. I just hoping if you can do Explorer st and acura mdx. Thank you sam!
😂😂😂😂😂 the guy in the 392 doesn't know what the fuck he was doing
When you take everything into account.. the Charger actually does very good lol. That's a pretty old tried and true platform. I mean mustangs, in stock format were irrelevant (5.0) until about 2018.
Both cars are sweet.. but a 4 door bruiser keeping up with a 2 door car that's 700lbs lighter is pretty cool.
1. It has more power and torque.
2. The driver has no idea how to drive that GT. Leave the paddle shifters alone and it dumps on that SRT.
My big problem with the 5.0L is how gutless it is below 4K RPM, which is where most driving takes place. Yeah, it's fast when you're on the throttle, but just cruising around, it's not a lot of fun. The Hemi and LT1 on the other hand have a lot more brute force down low.
Facts I rented one for a week was fun to drive no doubt but cruising wise it struggles
Nothing a set of gears can't fix.
idk, personally the GT more fun to me. The SS does everything right and straight forward. The GT is unpredictable, cruising with a modified exhaust doesnt get old. Overall I will say I like the SS more
That's gears man it can be fixed easily
Just get it in manual...
Why is he using sport + when drag race mode turns off the traction and stability controls and adjusts the gear ratio forward much faster run?
I own a 2017 gt with the manual gearbox and beat plenty of srt and scats’ but I’m a big fan of the srt8 the torque,power and leg room you get from that 4 door is unmatched the dodge has the full package and it’s great if u have a family
PP1 and PP2 Stang aren't nothing to play with mopar guys.
PP1 is a high 11-s car bro 😎
@@erickreyes7373 few words for you I own a 2020 PP1
@@ther.6107 nice
I own a base model 10a 5.0 and a Camaro 2ss A8 too 🥰🥰