An Archaeologist Reacts to Assassin's Creed Odyssey (Part 1) | Cincinnati Art Museum
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- Опубліковано 21 вер 2024
- Kathleen Lynch from the University of Cincinnati's Classics Department joins us to look at Assassin's Creed Odyssey. Here we visit the Acropolis in ancient Athens to see the Parthenon and other sights. NOTE: Uploads of parts 1 and 2 of this video were unfortunately cut-off suddenly at the end. The complete version combines both videos and the missing footage.
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Kathleen was responding to a pre-recorded video that Russell made (before knowing what she would comment on), which is why it seems like he is rushing past things. We won't make that mistake again!
Thanks for this clarification!! These are very interesting videos, I love them
If you speak to her just please tell her were grateful for her knowledge and work please.
you're right!!🤘🏻
You tried to trick us, but you failed.
no worries :)
-Walks a real Athens Agora archeologist through Assassin's Creed Odyssey
-Doesn't go into the Athens Agora
Ikr, such a missed opportunity
I genuinely don't know where they hire these producers from. It's like they are paid to do what exactly? Know anything about what they produce? Nope. Evidently just empty air.
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There's a second video, this is just the first one. Hence the "part 1" in the title.
I remember when Odyssey came out, few weeks after that I had a holidays in Greece. We visited a museum in Athens which has many historical things from back then in ancient Greek architecture and folklore stuff. Everything I saw in Odyssey was there. They really made this game properly, they did their research for sure !!! As well we went to Delphi (my fav. location in greece hands down). The tour you can do in Odyssey in Delphi was like I was there for 2nd time for real ! The amount of detail they put into last 3 AC games is just mindblowing.
The lore is just as mind blowing, especially with the Isu.
Same as with RDR 2 , I visit forests and it's exactly like that.👍
There were other things that weren’t so good like female soldiers just to name one.
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I know it isn't really an assassins creed game but i love it and it did took a lot of work people should stop bullying ubisoft
Ubisoft did a great job of recreating Ancient Greece in assassins creed odyssey one of my favourite games
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Props are really amazing, story is pretty cool, Cassandra and also many other characters are really worth getting to know. Then again gameplay is a bad joke of a repetetive crap with mindlessly lazy designed combat - scaled-enemies, action devoid of any player-skill based approach, difficulty means damage sponge - and have I mentioned the whole environment tries really hard to destroy any feel of any real exploration (i.e. getting rewarded for being observant and trying things out). So sad a combination... a modern one though! :D
@@martink2875 I haven't played Odyssey but I agree with you concerning Valhalla. Great graphics but the gameplay sucks, it is mainly kill kill kill. It is a pity for such wonderful work on other parts
@@RNHRK I've heard that Valhalla is different. But haven't tried it out myself as well. We'll both see I guess. And anyway, I am glad videos such as this come up. That's nice.
Not the NPC's though
Stuff like this is amazing. We need more of historical community reacting to games like this!
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Yeah I hope they'll make a video of an archaeologist from Egypt reacting to Assassin's Creed Origins!
Nice name
Yea and historically accurate. Would pay big coin for highly detailed historical games
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Had her as my Mythology professor a couple semesters ago at UC, she was awesome!
UC?
@@damuvang1915 university of Cincinnati. I have her as my myth professor this semester.
@@Wiggz22 What class is that? Is that a part of a history course or something similar?
Somebody take the controller off the hand of that guy. He’s ruining it.
I was thinking the same... Man!!!!
I was thinking the same... Man!!!!
I was thinking the same... Man!!!!
I was thinking the same... Man!!!!
I was thinking the same... Man!!!!
This needs to be a 5 hour video, Kathleen's commentary is amazing! So great to hear!!
Y'all remember when no one bothered to 3D scan the entire Notre Dame? But then Ubisoft said, "Hollup a minute we might need this." The games have varying degrees of quality but you can always expect them to take their time with the history.
And thank god they did
Great video, however, it is frustrating how the player just keeps walking instead of focusing on what she is talking about. I thought they were just playing a video for her to react to but he is apparently controlling it?
he's like those journalists that get early access and butcher their way through
They were playing it, but it's a recording of them playing prior to talking to her so what she's watching IS a video but it's a video based on their earlier gameplay from what I've heard
@@TheFinalFarewell well that was a bad way to do it. Just stream the gameplay with her.
@@kzero1499 Agreed, it'd be a lot smoother that way. Hopefully that's what they'll do in the future
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Wow, she is so impressive she really knows her stuff. And despite the minor errors, you gotta say that the people who make these games are absolutely amazing. They are modern day wizards. you can tell that a lot of blood sweat and tears have gone into making this masterpiece
You should look at assassins creed unity’s map. A recreation of late 1700’s Paris
@@2inches2hard I know, I've played it. I brought the game just after Notre dame cathedral burned down. And the detail is so amazing they should use the game to rebuild the cathedral
So much blood sweat and tears, they had to take everything AC:Origins did and copy paste it to Ancient Greece. So stunning. So brave.
But oh well, there's still Ghost of Tsushima: The game AC fans were asking for, but never got. Thanks Ubisoft.
@@dimeterchevaeros8480 the tears are flooding in your comment
@@dimeterchevaeros8480Take a break from the internet, you seem like you're about to cry...
Anyway time to get back to Odyssey :D
sorry, but he moves too fast, should take a moment to appreciate the details. great stuff otherwise!
Lol, pretty sure a lot of people play video games like that, miss 99% of what makes it cool, then move on to some other game never realizing what they had!
@@ryanhill906 id even argue that statistic extends to the general population. im no different lol it took me forever to notice the art hung on the walls of our school and the hospital where we work.
Oh you talking about this picture? Let me look at this beautiful ground then
Yeah, she should have been the one playing the game.
It took me MONTHS to play through the whole game because I was appreciating all of the beauty and details
The world is the most consistently amazing thing in the assassins creed games.
It's always gorgeous.
The incredible amount of research they put into AC series is the reason I LOVE the games! They are not the same as they used to be for "gaming" but the details are still WAOW.
heh, just said pretty much the same thing mate lol
I've recently finished AC Origins. My jaw dropped when I first saw Alexandria. It's amazing how they recreated ancient cities. I absolutely love the architecture. Shame the gameplay and ending sucked. I'm burnt out and won't touch Odyssey for a while but I'm looking forward to it more than Origins. Just wanted to play them in release order.
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Fr, the DETAILS. It's straight up insane. Ngl Ima buy all upcoming AC games just for the world design and details, its so good.
Origins Odyssey and Valhalla are historical masterpieces. If you games and history assassins creed is your series even the older games are historical masterpieces but the technology in the latest 3 games make them incredible especially Odyssey it's the most visually beautiful of the 3.
Kephallonia has a mountain sized statue of Zeus carved from stone, which legitimately implies people carved a mountain away. Odyssey is set during the height of the Peloponnesian War, yet apparently hoplites don’t know how to fight in phalanxes at the height of Ancient Greek military influence. Yes, some serious historical sites that are presented in Odyssey are done well, but so much historical work was done on a lot of those areas that I would hardly credit Ubisoft.
In the trailer for the first Assassin’s Creed, Altair uses a crossbow which was removed from the game because they found out after the trailer release that it was unlikely to have usage during that time period. Assassin’s Creed 3 had Redcoats forming firing lines and using known historical tactics to try and fight Connor, and also gave the player a mechanic to deal with that situation. These guys couldn’t be bothered with most of this depth, and that’s partially allowed due to the lack of written historical sources.
It looks amazing, sure, but historical masterpiece?
Doesn’t help that the story was atrociously boring.
@@aenearion5503 there aren't too many assassins that fight in phalanx. It's still a video game. The architecture all the way down to the pottery are correct. A greek archeologist reviewed the game and about creamed herself at the accuracy of everything. It's a historical masterpiece and the closest we may ever get to a time machine. These guys are putting in ridiculous amounts of research for a video game and that far overlooks them not adding a phalanx in an assassin game.
@@TheDoats The hoplites need to be the ones fighting in phalanx, not the Assassins. That was the primary fighting style of hoplites, who were the main fighting force of most Greek city states. The way they were armed and armoured revolved around fighting in a phalanx. Odyssey instead has huge hulking guys with little to no armour each wielding a mace that size of one's head in each hand which would have been far too unwieldy to actually use in combat.
Yes, lots of realism.
Yes, a lot of the architecture and the small details down to the pottery are correct, but essentially every AC game has had that level of detail, and I notice that you completely ignored the point I raised about a certain mountain sized statue which I'm sure is completely historical. Also the idea of something being a historical masterpiece yet avoiding historical truth about ancient societal norms that by modern standards would be abhorrent is laughable. Ancient Greece did have better sanitary conditions -for the most part- than Dark Ages Europe, but it also had widespread paedophilic acceptance, so much so that Ancient Greek poets would write about it. You can't eliminate inconvenience regarding history then say it is a historical masterpiece.
There are parts of Odyssey that are good, and there are areas where you can see they've put work in. But almost every triple AAA budget release of AC has this level of historical detail. I have no idea why you think it's a historical masterpiece compared to something like Assassin's Creed 2 or Black Flag, which have similar levels of depth.
As I said in my previous post, a lot of this research is widely spread, while as research for AC Unity likely came from hundreds of conflicting sources, and research for Black Flag would have been far more difficult to do than this, due to lack of site preservation and general confusion/mismanaged reporting of events happening in the area at the time.
Odyssey is based around a time period that has a few main written sources and lots of good site preservation for archeological sources.
@@TheDoats idk about u but i didnt make it through even half his book..... I don't think he realizes its a video game and its NOT actually suppose 2 be real kinda like it says at the start when you hit play..
I've played though this game and loved it. I'm also a Grecophile at heart, so to hear this woman talk about the historical accuracy is amazing. Thank you, to you and her.
would be freaking awesome to have the entire "ancient world" digitalized so we could walk thru it like a tourist!
Pretty sure this will be a thing sooner or later
@@viaredzagames why tho? we already have vr porn, what else do we need
@@makemwet2488 to be eaten by a dinosaur digitally of course
@@smoothsat1 oh obviously
This is the level on detail and expertise I expect from all 'historian/archaeologists reacts' videos on UA-cam!
Stunning game. Loved all 200 hours of it. I've almost gotten off the first island.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 those who have never played it will not understand but that is the most accurate comment ive seen.
I had her for Myth at UC a few Semesters ago, great teacher, and great to talk to!
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Shut your mouth
She would be excited to see the Salt making fields and the color purple die . My favorite AC ever
Finally, someone else who gets it. Everyone I know has it at the bottom of their list for favorite AC games
@@shannonmitchell8515 i own all of them including Valhalla . Odyssey had the best story lines and back story out of all of them . The detail and Tombs and even the coast salt fields , purple making dye , even had the clay pits .
Game is amazing .
@@NewEnglandCopChasers I thought I was the only one
There are many of us who love the game. For me AC Odyssey is No.1 and right after is Origins. At the bottom are Unity and Valhalla.
@@shadowgamer4653 mine id say Oddessy ,Black flag and AC 3 with Connor
Just started catching up on odyssey and am a few hours in.. awesome game.
I love seeing when professionals and experts get just as blown away!!
Awesome channel👌🏾👍🏾👌🏾
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Yeah I love it too, also bought the DLCs recently! Really feels like you're in ancient Greece when you're playing it, it's so cool! My dog is a stray from Greece and I sometimes show her my screen when I'm playing and she really loves staring at the dogs in the game, it's so cute! I always make jokes that she's thinking of her motherland when she stares at the screen lol
Imagine their surprise, someone paid millions to recreate something they study in books and rubbles for an entire life. I would have cried lol. Sad the AC franchise is still not in VR. I think she would have passed out from walking in acient Greece :P
It was the first AC game I played from start to finish and damn, it was great. I was surprised, seriously one of the *best* games I've played. It seems like the only people who dislike it are kids who spend too much time on UA-cam listening to reviewers lmao. Regardless, it was amazing... especially exploring the world.
Such an underrated game, I’m still playing it
Hardly underrated, one of the most acclaimed entries in the series (which is in itself acclaimed).
Btw I finished it like 3 weeks ago... and 'cause it was part of my daily life since Christmas... I really miss it. Fantastic, beautiful game. And I love the RPG elements. I really don't know how I'm going to play again the older entries... I'd really miss this "choice-based" gameplay...
best title of the series
Dorian Gulyas play Valhalla
@@doriangulyas1351 I put in over 400 hours into Odyssey and then did Origins afterwards...although I enjoyed Origins, I preferred Odyssey.
I 100% both games and thought they were both amazing...every time I had a chance to play them, I felt like I was time travelling back to ancient Greece and Egypt.
I literally did absolutely everything there was to do in each of them...I haven't played Valhalla yet but I expect it to be just as awesome to experience!!!
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I love Odyssey! How they create the world, graphics, people. Just wow!!
Gameplay footage: Starts
Bounty Hunter: Allow me to introduce myself
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ikr they are so irritating,
As a fellow scientist, it kills me that the footage isn’t in something higher than 1080p because this game looks AMAZING in 4K!!! 😳🔥🙌 (I haven’t played it, too busy, but I’ve watched videos on UA-cam and it is stunning! 🤩)
Should play AC 3 probably the best one also Blackflag and AC vahalla Ireland DLC
Loved this game, my favorite AC game. Who the hell wouldn't love romping around ancient Greece. Awesome.
The way she says Agora reminded me of: "It's not leviosa. It's leviosaaa"
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Agora você entende kkkkkkkkkkkk
She says it wrong
@@inquisitive6786 she says it completely right. That's how we, greeks, pronounce it and it's the same in ancient greek.
@@thanostsotoulidis5663 where the F in greece are you from that you say it like that
Glad they had tour mode in the game. Even able to choose your tour characters, horse skin and the ability to do "poses" in the tour, like sawing, begging, fire dance, grape stomping to make wine.. etc. Love filling my folder with pictures.
Kudos to the developers for the details. It must be one of the most beautiful games regarding its environment.
Whether you enjoy these games or not, the level of detail and world building is constantly mind-blowing!
The research in Origins amazed me. Pyramids with their lime coating and capstones in place. They speak Egyptian in the villages but you get to Alexandria and they are speaking Greek. Very impressive and stunning visuals and with this game too.
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It's amazing that there are people who dedicate their lives to studying these things. I wonder how many specialists in Ancient Greece there are.
I could listen to her talk about history all day long. Amazing job Kathleen.... If I were to ever get a chance visit that part of the world and see the Acropolis... I would want her to give me a tour...
I’ve always loved the amount of detail put into the Assassin’s Creed games and Odyssey is by far one of my favorites. My jaw actually dropped in amazement when she said that sailors would actually see the glistening of Athena’s helmet. Imagine such a beautiful sight in real life. That’s absolutely amazing.
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I really like how she talks of various things based on being an archaeologist! Really awesome!! I really super like her narration during the game walkthrough.
Can't believe how beautiful they managed to make this game, it looks like a moving painting
That was definitely the most beautiful game I've ever played. I'm 120 hours of gameplay and going ❤️
Thanks for the new complete video in the description.
Somehow youtube recommended me this video (which is an older one) and immediately I read your description and found the new video.
(I'm leaving this comment here as an appreciation for the new one)
It’s like I’m on a tour. Fascinating.
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I LOVE THIS! Please make an Assasins Creed Origins one!!
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this is a cool idea and entertaining.
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My Gf is a classical archeologist and she is finishing her masters right now on production areas in west anatolia. I happened to send her a lot of screenshots where I saw olive oil production and dare I say they are really accurate. I mean Ubisoft really tried to do everything right in this game. She enjoys it so much she played it for hours, not to finish the story but to fool around in the cities, and kill pirates lol.
I do LOVEEE what they've made in this game! Greek/Roman culture always was my passion, but seeing recreate in this game it was magical! I spent a lot of time, just looking for the details...
I was q classics major and was also blown away by the visuals in this game. I loved that they had a tour feature outside the game. The scenery, including the water, was gorgeous. Unfortunately, Ubisoft let it all down with incessantly repeating the same quests over and over. After you have explored dozens of look alike tombs, conquered dozens of look alike forts, etc, it starts affecting your overall impression.
this is why odyssey is my favourite assassins creed game and one of my favourite games ever with the DLCs!
It's amazing how much research that goes into these games, yet in Valhalla they chose to go with fantasy vikings instead of historically accurate vikings.
To be fair, it's kinda hard to be accurate when it comes to vikings, but I hear what you're saying.
Assassin's Creed has never been 100% historically accurate in any game in the Series so I don't understand why people complain about them taking a slightly different direction with the Vikings. It's Assassin's Creed not History Geographic.
I loved that game so much I got the platinum trophy.
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Respect.
Hey, I live in Dayton Ky. I can see Cincy perfectly from my house. I'm right there. I also love visiting museums, because all this is fascinating. Good times:D
I played a game and 3 months after I went to Greece/Korfu/Paxos. Game makers did a amazing job! Nature from they game is spot on
Athena Statue is my Favorite site on Odyssey, . . . Shes well made, . . . And I find it so Majestic, . . .
I live in Cincinnati and I love this game and I love out museum so this is something special.
The bit where he starts climbing up the pillar and she's like "Wow! That is.. that is? ... Interesting?" 😂 I'm dead
I could watch this for hours. So interesting
This went exactly how I expected. "Wow, this is awesome! Yeah, this and that are out of place, or time, but otherwise much like I imagine." As someone with a history degree, I love just walking around Assasins creed game worlds. I know no videogame is true to life, but I love that I get to explore ancient cities in any way.
Odyssey is the game I've spent the most time in. Not quite sure how it happened, but it must have been like 250 hours or so. Crazy.
I especially like the normal villages and slums in the game, I feel like it got the accurate vibe correct. Kind of that shoddy construction that you see a lot today in 3rd world societies is also what was common in the ancient world
This was one of the most beautiful Games ever made!
This game and Origins was such a beautiful world.
This is like the first time she’s played a game
Its kinda cute
She’s been doing archeological work for 25 years in that region of the world. I hate to break it to you basement dwellers but I’d say that would probably be more important and beneficial to society. Now I am going to go back to my gaming...😅
@@Sailor1010 😂👍
Video games AND ancient history,its a win win.
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Can we have some field of view and an actual gamer in control? The camera angles are terrible.
Also, the photo mode and the eagle view are much better to look at the environment.
So proud to have Spartan ancestors ❤️
this is so wholesome. i got goosebumbs
Wholesome..Is that the right word?
it's amazing that an ancient culture was actually this beautiful. makes you doubt the direction of the modern world
I absolutely am in love with this game!! Best AC in my opinion
The giant statue was actually Athena Nike (victory) not Athena promachos (the word means "fighting in front line" not strategy before the war). Promachos statue of athena captures the move of throwing the spear, this statue was made after persian wars to signify the victory of Hellas
Great comments by the lady. The guy was a painful experience instead.
Never noticed that first painting at 2:30 was of the Olympians fighting Gaia's Giants🤯
She could talk me through any game. Such a wealth of knowledge.
love this. puts all those "no one shot stealth kills" complaints about the game in perspective.
The year is exactly 430 BC, the second year of the Peloponnesian War, which we know by the fact that during the events of the game is when the Plague of Athens breaks out.
Promachos - Πρόμαχος means leader in battle, strategos - army's leader literally - general in front and co-warrior infront, "προ" does mean "before" but also mean "with" like "lead with us" not "lead way before us"'
My good lord, I would LOVE to visit Greece ❤️
The level of research that must go into AC games must be incredible. As someone who has studied Greek Mythology, I loved the idea behind Odyssey, and the beauty of the landscape, rivals RDR2 for me. But the historical research the devs must have done to have recreated such a vast world is really incredible. It's a shame that the gameplay/missions, don't really live up to the same kind of standards as the environment. Same with Valhalla tbh. Missions are so "samey" very little has changed from game to game, except now it's more of a hack n slash than a stealth assassination game, sometimes I feel like the world's are too big, so much to see and do, but the missions all become similar after a while that it just doesn't seem worth the effort to complete
Thanks to Ubisoft because of giving old greek atmosphere to us.When i played this game all time at everywhere oh my god what a good scene, oh my god again and again.Also i live in Turkey.This country was a old greek land before.I wanted to live that time realy.
I believe the columns in Greek architecture also gets wider as you go up so that when you're looking up at it from the bottom your vantage point makes the lines look straight
This was so dope, when it ended I was like, what I want more, then I realized there is a part 2
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All of the detail and history makes me want the game!
It just got a 60fps patch for ps5 and Xbox sx. Looks absolutely beautiful
Promachos (Athena or Αθηνά ) in Greek language means that fights in first line (Avant-garde) and i think not before the war or as strategist.
Yeah, Assassin‘s Creed isn‘t always historically correct in every single point, but it definitely is the most accurate historical game series with that level of immersion and graphics. Now that of course only counts for the world, not the main story and character. But it‘s incredible, how much effort Ubisoft puts into this series‘ historical background. They always send research teams all around the world to recreate that era and places as realistic as possible! Even using the old languages and what not… I absolutely love it! Mostly it‘s accurate at least for what we know, it really is a bit like time traveling…
Had I known it was this historically accurate, I would've picked it up. Maybe the dev should market these points better.
Bro both origins and odyssey have educational modes used at universities for non violent historical walkthroughs, all over the news both times.
Correct me if I'm mistaken but he told her that this is set before the Persian war? Which I think would be incorrect. As the Battle of Thermopylae. Where king leonidas and the 300 Spartan warriors were defeated. Kassandra and Alexisos were his grandchilden which means this story is sat further forward
This game is literally my favourite game ever 😍
You can tell she misses going there by her excitement :(
holly crap, I`m so envious of this lady.
Its crazy to think that people not know Ubisoft making these games and when they see it for the first time they say: "The one doing research did a really good job".
Oh boi, you say *the ONE*
she meant the historian hired by Ubisoft, not Ubisoft.
@@huawafabe Well I don't expect one historian to decide the whole game. There's a whole team of them, says the loading screen of odyssey.
@@_M_o_n_k_e Yea that's true. But I guess that one person was in charge of specific details which she was refering to.
I feel like this guy has an ADHD, can’t stop moving the camera and his character for a moment while she is explaining stuffs.
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It's prerecorded.
I love Greek mythology, no wonder i platinated this game....and it only took me 170 hours!
this is just great! they should do this for each of the Assassins Creed games!
Love Odyssey just play it...it's beautifull ,and the gameplay impressive 💫
I will speak as a person and also as a gamer for over 30 years. The first time I saw the ASSASSINS CREED ODYSSEY graphics I was surprised and I saw more videos like this paying attention to the details. People, animals, scenarios, fights, weapons, etc. UBISOFT's developers are very competent when creating the graphics for the ASSASSINS CREED odyssey game, as well as the ASSASSINS CREED ORIGINS gam, despite some mistakes they made in the AC ODYSSEY game, which is beside the point now.
Each game should have a 'director commentary' like this on all the art and locations
Looks amazing! Everyone tell Ubisoft to take us back to ROME as well! We want a forum & temple of Jupiter to look out from :D
Such a visually stunning game
I absolutely loved Assassin's Creed Odyssey.
1:30 "Oh looks a little shop"
*Ignores what she says and continues moving.*
I could listen to her commentary on an ENTIRE playthrough. Seriously. I would pay to listen to that.
Say what you want about Ubisoft and Assassin's Creed as a series, but the world-building they are able to produce is nothing short of incredible.