Small Valve Amp or Big Modelling Amp? Which is Better??

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  • @RobVanDusen
    @RobVanDusen 7 років тому +1502

    Ok, now let's try Bad guitarist with great gear vs. Great guitarist with crap gear. Go ahead and send me a ton of expensive gear and I'll do the bad guitarist part...

    • @dlopeol1525
      @dlopeol1525 7 років тому +20

      Rob VanDusen hahahahaha, I wish

    • @Talking_Bout_Driguez
      @Talking_Bout_Driguez 7 років тому +3

      Rob VanDusen Yesssss

    • @Caaarrl94
      @Caaarrl94 7 років тому +30

      10/10 for effort hahha

    • @GuitarAnime
      @GuitarAnime 7 років тому +4

      brilliant hahahahahah

    • @caputmundi2382
      @caputmundi2382 7 років тому +5

      Thats piss me off every time . Guys with a Les Paul and a Rectievier,but cant play a 3 chords.No hate against you.But i dont get it."Rich- paren-ts Syndrom" i named it.Or" he cant- buy- crack- from- the- money" crack-fear- syndrom.D

  • @JohnvanCapel
    @JohnvanCapel 3 роки тому +165

    Given that it's now 3 years later and frankly a lot has changed in amplifier-land, can we get a revisit of this concept?

  • @SkywalkerWolfi
    @SkywalkerWolfi 6 років тому +48

    I would recommend doing this: when comparing two amps, play the same two guitars, when comparing two guitar, use the same two amps
    It does a lot difference

  • @lucasdeaver9192
    @lucasdeaver9192 7 років тому +44

    I love how the conversation devolved into dating advice.

  • @FlyingBeerman
    @FlyingBeerman 7 років тому +202

    Loved it when Rob just looked at the camera after his $4000 guitar comment that the Captain didn't notice.

    • @Spartanm333
      @Spartanm333 5 років тому +2

      At 14.45 for those that cannot wait to see this - totally right Rob. Sorry, decent valve amp for me every time - love my DSL 40C Vintage (and have now updated the valves and speaker after 12 months - it is EPIC with a Gibson). I want digital effects I will add a pedal. Peace and love!

    • @joshiuahallenbeck531
      @joshiuahallenbeck531 5 років тому +2

      I wish there was a montage of just Chappers eyebrow raised stares after a comment.

  • @derickng4578
    @derickng4578 7 років тому +44

    Suggestion for video, which is some sort of a full rig challenge.
    Draw each of them every video
    1) budget,
    2) type of music(blues, rock, jazz, metal...),
    3) usage(bedroom for lower volume / gig-able for higher volume)
    Then we can watch different sort of rig challenge every month, with some sort of gear review.
    (Sorry english is not my first language)

  • @musicbytheday
    @musicbytheday 6 років тому +6

    honestly for beginners get a modeling amp. It takes forever to dial in tones but once you find what you like you can move forward with getting a tube amp once you know what your sound is. Also they work great as practice and backup amps with the ridiculous amount of features they offer. lots of fun for tinkering. I still record with mine.

  • @RicCrouch
    @RicCrouch 5 років тому +172

    Team D vs. Team V.
    Ain’t it always that way? ;)

    • @ClinicalDecisionYikesYT
      @ClinicalDecisionYikesYT 4 роки тому +3

      Ric Crouch results in a production called Team K

    • @Lukas-mu2tw
      @Lukas-mu2tw 4 роки тому +15

      SlayerRock4ever unless you choose team A

    • @doomerius1300
      @doomerius1300 4 роки тому +5

      Giggity

    • @51MontyPython
      @51MontyPython 3 роки тому +1

      @@Lukas-mu2tw What's team A?

    •  3 роки тому +4

      @@51MontyPython Oh, my sweat summer child...

  • @CaptAnderton
    @CaptAnderton 7 років тому +768

    Cheers for watching everyone! I totally accept that we could have picked any number of different amps to compare, but I felt that the AC10 was the best we could get for the money & I didn't want the budget to go any higher. As for the Fender, on the day we shot this video, Mustang GT had only been out for 2-3 days & we thought it would be great to try it. Obviously there are a load of different amps that we could have compared, but we can't re shoot this video 50 times just to compare them all! If you've got a preference for a small valve amp and/or a larger modelling amp, then I guess you should just go to your nearest music store & compare them yourself & then post your findings in the comments section of this video. Cheers!

    • @MattW4319
      @MattW4319 7 років тому +3

      CaptAnderton exactly! I compared a code 25 to a mustang v1 and liked the mustang better for what I would want. I could go back and play them again and like the code better. But why shell out extra $$ for a practice amp, it's a practice amp lol

    • @my_alias
      @my_alias 7 років тому +6

      Why not going cheaper, like a Laney or so?

    • @sneeks
      @sneeks 7 років тому +6

      I'd hoped you would choose the Blackstar HT5R but it wasn't to be. So near!!!!

    • @hgbekker
      @hgbekker 7 років тому +7

      I see your point but I honestly think the Blackstar ID:60TVP would have made a much better showing than the Fender. The Blackstar is really easy to dial in, has great tones and is very very loud (nauseatingly loud :-)). I own both the Blackstar and a Fender Mustang IIIv2. The Fender has more features but the Blackstar wins hands down on tone.

    • @felipebouret3833
      @felipebouret3833 7 років тому

      CaptAnderton Team V!! I do agree with you, captain. Even if you have a modeling amp that sounds as good as a valve amp, I would still prefer the valve one.
      I've been watching your videos for quite some time and you helped me decide which amp to buy. I'm rocking my tiny terror for almost a year now, and I love it!
      Thank you Captain, and thank you, Rob!

  • @anirudhmenon5280
    @anirudhmenon5280 7 років тому +18

    You guys are great at jamming together. You should start a 'Jam' series Where you just sit and jam, i would love it if that happens!!!
    In the mean time keep up the good content. I thoroughly enjoy every video!

  • @budgetguitaristcom
    @budgetguitaristcom 6 років тому +3

    THIS is why we watch. Very entertaining. You guys are still making hands down the best, most interesting guitar videos on the UA-cam. That little vox IS a pretty kick ass amp.

  • @christophergregory1205
    @christophergregory1205 5 років тому

    That Vox, especially at the beginning during the little jam, was MAGICAL!

  • @stratpuppy
    @stratpuppy 7 років тому +139

    The captain has been practicing - great playing man

    • @gpar7
      @gpar7 6 років тому +1

      I agree , some great licks and tones from the Cap here...

  • @meronar
    @meronar 7 років тому +132

    The crash at 8:35 actually got me

  • @ethanfenton1414
    @ethanfenton1414 6 років тому +91

    Idk how anyone could say anything bad about these guys cuz their just cool dudes playing guitars

    • @DivdHrt
      @DivdHrt 5 років тому +22

      We're all sales men though, from your job interview to dating you have to sell at least yourself

    • @alechorner7481
      @alechorner7481 4 роки тому +2

      They're*

    • @psychoprosthetic
      @psychoprosthetic 4 роки тому +4

      @@DivdHrt - well one can just try being oneself and never mind who buys it. Oldschool. Called authenticity.
      But these guys seem pretty authentic to me, even if they are often prejudiced about gear. I don't think it's primarily salesmanship but the Captain is in a sort Label/Brand rut.

    • @doomerius1300
      @doomerius1300 4 роки тому +1

      Just students of jelly school

    • @Coop_68
      @Coop_68 3 роки тому

      Paras Mento smh

  • @jacksoncrate
    @jacksoncrate 6 років тому

    just bought an amp evh lunchbox from you and the service was awesome! total professional and such a cool shop. very friendly

  • @Lemmysfinger
    @Lemmysfinger 7 років тому +28

    Fun video guys. I'd take that Vox in a heartbeat. As an aside i noticed that you now carry Gordon Smith guitars. You need to do a video on them! Hand made in England, loads of options, left or right handed. More people need to know about the longest running British guitar company. They've been under the radar for so long.

  • @eastsideresident5814
    @eastsideresident5814 7 років тому +221

    Chapman gets older. Captain gets younger.

    • @Fektthis
      @Fektthis 7 років тому +28

      Think he'd rather be embracing the roots of his hair. They seem to be screaming "let my people go" They've already spent 40 years living in the desolate wasteland of his scalp. Their long journey will be over soon.

    • @Fektthis
      @Fektthis 7 років тому +18

      keep in mind they said they were going to read the mean posts at some point.

    • @donaldbollinger2407
      @donaldbollinger2407 6 років тому +1

      Brutal... I love it

  • @MosriteCharlie
    @MosriteCharlie 4 роки тому

    Congrats on some of the most informative posts ever. Look forward to every one. Keep up the good work.

  • @michaelw6277
    @michaelw6277 Рік тому +2

    It’s been five years since this video was made and today I took delivery of a Bugera V5 for $200 shipped and I absolutely could not be happier with it. Looks good, feels solid, sounds very good.

  • @stutty1400
    @stutty1400 4 роки тому +37

    For the last 4 years I have been gigging most weekends with a Fender Mustang 3. It is great value for money, the sound is good, the features are useable and it's reliable. Above all the amp is very light. No-one has ever said to me "a valve amp would give you a better sound". I can only conclude that the Fender Mustang 3 is good enough for the gigs I do (pub & club gigs). Having owned a silverface Fender Twin and carted it around for gigging, I can honestly say that the Mustang is a MUCH better option for me :) ... isn't that what counts?

    • @vexguine
      @vexguine 4 роки тому

      you are right. after having heavy tube amps I'm migrating to digital. I like 2x12 combos. Must have preset saving option. I'm using a line 6 spider IV. Loving it. No more back pain from moving big cabs and heads. No more amp servicing. No more tube changes and accidents. Single trip from the car to studio/venue. All my presets are there. No more messy and noisy pedalboards. I'm sold. The pros of digital amps for gigging players are endless. Also, if the audience is happy with my sound I could'nt care less with tube snobs.

    • @psychoprosthetic
      @psychoprosthetic 4 роки тому +1

      Yeah, weight is a massive thing. These guys were *surprised* the valve amp was heavier. All that metal - a speaker and two transformers. Correct me if I'm wrong, but an output transformer isn't needed for a transistor amp?

    • @WrynnCZ
      @WrynnCZ 4 роки тому

      I have Fender Mustang 150W (first version) and I also use it for gigs. I have 3 presets I use in songs and thats it. I can imagine it could be smaller as I have volume on 4/10 max. For the price I got everything to be able to play all sounds I need without any pedals and tuner. The new models are way lighter and sounds better. Now I have valve Fender Deluxe 40W. Sound is better but amp is heavier and I need pedals.

    • @tinfoilhatlover3660
      @tinfoilhatlover3660 4 роки тому +2

      Iv been recording and prpducing for 20 years. Modelling is the beat thing to ever happend.
      Its like evrething some purist will say that tube are better.. but ivdone several blind test starting with the first pod from line 6 at the beginning of my career and all these tube purist couldnt even work out what was what in a mix. Sometime solo yes.. but by todays technology simply nobody can.
      What remains is maybe the feel.. im sure a guy like steeve vai could probably pick up the latency from a modelled amp..or the way ut react vs a tubeamp.. but for us nere mortal.. nah.
      Iv been a bad guitar player on the side of my engeneer career.
      Iv been giging now for 5 years with a line 6 firehawk 1500 watt amp... with 6speaker its a best with true stereo flat respond. Serve as p.a amp.. etc. And nobody ever came to me and told me to get a tube amp.
      Lots of time loudness...cutting trough a mix.. the way you play.. the effe t you use.. there is so much variation from the guitar to the speaker that people that beleives they can hear pick a tube are delusional its when they take a blind test that they realised it. The same goes for these audiophile crap... golden 50 000$ cable...and 200000 amps for vinyl etc its snake oil.
      Most vinyl areinferior to a proper cd.
      Several study showed that the most importabt factor in a amp was the power of it. Lol no shit.

    • @ZiPolishHammer
      @ZiPolishHammer 4 роки тому

      Well yea, a Fender Twin weighs like 85 lbs and has to be pushed hard as fuck to get even modest breakup. Unless you're playing a 250 person room, why in gods name would you need or want a twin?

  • @MichelleTaylor1
    @MichelleTaylor1 7 років тому +14

    Should have used the Blackstar ID260TVP as the "digital choice". It's quick and easy to use, very loud, and sounds outstanding in the world of digital amps and can hold its own against a tube amp due to the TVP section. It's a real trouser flapper and still sounds great at volume ( in my humble opinion) 💁🏼

    • @adanoc
      @adanoc 7 років тому +1

      hey! you're here aswell, awesome,(I'm Adan from you blackstar facebook comunity)

  • @majr25_13
    @majr25_13 7 років тому

    You guys crack me up... please keep making awesome videos!!!

  • @six_rabbits
    @six_rabbits 6 років тому

    Cap't Anderton, IMHO you have perfectly summed up the pros and cons of tube vs. digital amps. That there isn't a clear 'best choice' for everyone is no reason to apologize. This video is exactly what to watch for folks needing guidance on what kind of amp to buy.
    P.S. These videos are uniformly excellent. Great job done by all, on both ends of the camera and in editing. Thank you!

  • @martinschmidt1652
    @martinschmidt1652 7 років тому +179

    I think you should use the same guitar for an amp testing, or at least switch them around. How can we as viewer heard the difference with 2 completely different guitars....

    • @e.h.5849
      @e.h.5849 4 роки тому +13

      yep, completely flawed and biased from the beginning to the end. Beats the purpose of the whole video. I am tired of the influencer trend. So dishonest..

    • @GuyInnagorillasuit
      @GuyInnagorillasuit 4 роки тому +2

      Yeah, it's not like the shop isn't going to have two of the same model guitar.

    • @jebay2252
      @jebay2252 4 роки тому +10

      @@e.h.5849 Or maybe than can just do whatever they want cause they are having fun just picking up guitars they think would be nice to play. and its a business. not a third party. stop your bitching

    • @darklinkduck2275
      @darklinkduck2275 4 роки тому

      Both are still humbuckers wetard will sound pretty close

    • @sebastianlindon8992
      @sebastianlindon8992 4 роки тому +1

      @@GuyInnagorillasuit Or they can just use the same exact guitar but plug it into the other amp...

  • @davids9192
    @davids9192 7 років тому +3

    This shows what a great amp the Boss Katana 100 is. Almost half the price of the Mustang and on the Clean channel with the Blues Driver on sounds brilliant without any messing. Exchanged a DSL5 for one and haven't regretted it for a minute.

  • @cratecruncher6687
    @cratecruncher6687 4 роки тому

    For someone like me who currently knows nothing about the current amp market this was VERY informative Lee. Thanks for doing it!

  • @adamlittlemore7211
    @adamlittlemore7211 5 років тому

    Hi guys I watch a few of your videos over the week and your store is amazing and have great gear and am away great to watch videos on here

  • @PapaWheelie1
    @PapaWheelie1 4 роки тому +10

    It’s like coming into the lodge on a cold snowy winter night and sitting on a leather couch in front of a crackling fire to warm up or finding a 55” TV with a fire reproduction on.

  • @MicahS70T5M
    @MicahS70T5M 4 роки тому +9

    Lee, two things;
    One, the reason the valve/tube amplifier sounded better at max than the solid state amp is the differences in the way they hit their limit or go passed it, which is called clipping.
    In valve amps, their clipping and distortion is harmonic, which is why a valve amp with a high distortion rating often sounds better than a solid state amp with low distortion. That also means that (as long as the speaker(s) don't hit their limit) it is not damaging to the speakers.
    With solid state amplifiers, distortion and clipping is a-harmonic. So the distortion doesn't sound as good (unless it isn't *really* distortion from the pre-amp, which I believe to be the case) a tube amp. And then, when the amplifier clips, it sends square waves to the speaker. If you've ever seen a sine wave, you'd see that (in a perfect world) it is a single line going up and down in smooth, unbroken swoops. Now it's a little more complicated, because of distortion and harmonics, but I won't get into that here. Anyway, when transistor/solid state amplifiers hit their limit, the tops of the sine wave are effectively cut off, meaning the speaker is held in one place by DC power for that amount of time. Often a massive contributor to speaker power ratings is the fact that the voice coils (the electromagnets suspended inside the permanent magnet and attached to the cone) are moving back and forth stupid fast, which cools them. When they are held in one place, they overheat and cook.
    What you smelled was burning voice coil. If you were to cut open that driver, you would see browned coils, as opposed to the original shiny copper. If you had kept it up, they would continue to get darker until they melted and shorted.
    I forgot what the second thing was 😎😂
    If anyone notices anything wrong with this feel free to let me know, I would appreciate it, as I don't want to accidentally spread false information. :)

    • @Wickedsensations2001
      @Wickedsensations2001 4 роки тому +1

      You spent forever writing this coment

    • @inevitablecraftslab
      @inevitablecraftslab 3 роки тому

      Micah N. you spend probably 20 min to tell them what every guitarist, and FOR SURE those two guys know.
      just one word: pathetic

  • @JYelton
    @JYelton 6 років тому

    I love the editing on these videos. Specifically the "*More Expensive" subtitle that appears not once, but twice, when Lee says "dearer."

  • @MatthewKress
    @MatthewKress 6 років тому

    I just wanted to say thank you for your videos. I am new to guitar and am learning a lot. So just.... thanks.

  • @user-ml3sz3mm5y
    @user-ml3sz3mm5y 7 років тому +238

    114 dB with no hearing prottection on.
    Ouch.

    • @steelwarrior105
      @steelwarrior105 6 років тому +4

      Василий Петров that's a 9mm

    • @sydm1073
      @sydm1073 5 років тому +37

      Tinnitus sucks ass,, believe me. Once you get that ringing in your ears from hearing loss, it never goes away... It's better looking like a "grandpa" than to wanting to blow your brains out from the constant "iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnngggggggggg" in your ears.

    • @robertlloyd9654
      @robertlloyd9654 5 років тому +19

      I agree, a standard modern chainsaw runs at about 90db, and that's painful without ear defenders.

    • @bmark7951
      @bmark7951 5 років тому +6

      Pussy

    • @Silkaz7
      @Silkaz7 5 років тому +12

      @@sydm1073 as someone that have had tinnitus and hearing damage due to playing guitar at high volumes i second this comment!, i play on a small amp now, sold my old amplifiers.

  • @ericcarpenter3263
    @ericcarpenter3263 7 років тому +3

    Vox AC10 = 108 decibels. Fender = smells like electronics on fire. Captain and Chappers trying to make it seem like there isn't that big a gap between the two = priceless.
    Good video guys. Digital may get super close but I just don't see it replacing tube amps. Then again, reverb seems like a totally analog, organic thing and the digital units are great.

  • @timbowers4250
    @timbowers4250 5 років тому

    I also love that your videos don’t have ads in the middle of them. I’m sure you could and make more money but you don’t!

  • @jamesbryant6484
    @jamesbryant6484 4 роки тому +1

    Dearly love these guys. I plan to investigate cost,and process to order and ship needed gear to the U.S. (other than my "Anderton's" t-shirt. These guys are a wealth of real knowledge,and good honest advise.

  • @attemptedpolymath9660
    @attemptedpolymath9660 7 років тому +4

    I managed to pick up an Ibanez TSA 15H for 150 GBP (converted from South African Rands). Even if you added the speaker cab it was only 212 GBP. The tone is amazing. It made me lament all the years I've spent playing through a solid state Hughes and Kettner. I'm a believer in having an amazing primary tone vs having a million options. I like the fact that it only has 6 knobs and I understand what every single one of them does. I had a multi effects unit back in the day. It was rubbish and uninspiring. I plug straight into this thing and it makes me want to play all day. To me my gear must make me want to play; otherwise its not doing its primary job.

  • @anthonycook5535
    @anthonycook5535 7 років тому +13

    "Good from afar, far from good". 😂
    Reminds me of the term 'Low-resolution fox' - A lady who looks smoking hot at a distance but turns out to be all pixelated up close.

  • @craigrichardellioott
    @craigrichardellioott 4 роки тому

    i could watch these all day!

  • @mikesansoucy5662
    @mikesansoucy5662 4 роки тому

    Thanks for all of these vids guys. I find them very helpful... and fun. Cheers.

  • @IncurZeAwperator
    @IncurZeAwperator 7 років тому +5

    damn havent watched yall in a few months and i have to say damn cap your playing is like exponentially grown

  • @henrysmith187
    @henrysmith187 6 років тому +3

    Those both sound great! I agree that if you are a beginner, you should get a modeling amp to learn what sound you want, then you save up and buy the right amp for you.

  • @jaredhind
    @jaredhind 6 років тому +1

    Loving the captains playing on this video! Lovely vibrato!

  • @MjVanCamping
    @MjVanCamping 6 років тому

    I thoroughly enjoy these videos! Lol entertaining as well as informative!

  • @landypaule
    @landypaule 7 років тому +40

    Where can I buy tickets for your video recording session? I can imagine myself just standing near by and enjoy you guys talk about amps and guitars :-)
    Once I'm thinking about it, you could make a live show and name it "TOP GAIN". I bet you'd have many viewers :-)

    • @TheMrFlitz
      @TheMrFlitz 7 років тому +9

      And a star on a reasonably priced guitar each week... Perfect.

    • @landypaule
      @landypaule 7 років тому +8

      TheMrFlitz and of course: how fast can the new Chapman Cap10 play the test track? Of course played by a professional Guitar Racer. Some say, he never cuts his nails and that he can play every lick with his tongue. All we know is: he's called the 'Pick'.

    • @caputmundi2382
      @caputmundi2382 7 років тому +1

      Lol.Great.Or one of 'picks' foreign cousins depending where the guitar was build?.Their pretty fast too.And wich could be moded for campfire etc. Your brillant.

  • @eluc9
    @eluc9 7 років тому +8

    Love my little Fender Mustang GT 40 watt amp.. As a home practice amp it's perfect. Sound quality is good, gets super loud and has tons of amp choices (which I can tweak on the fly with my phone). Not to mention it moonlights as great little Bluetooth home stereo and was super affordable.

    • @trollfiddler
      @trollfiddler 7 років тому +4

      Agree as long as you stick with clean tones. The distortion sounds are typical fizzy digital noise. I love the Bluetooth for streaming backing tracks while you play. Great for when you have to practice and don't dare disturb the wife. Plug in the headphones, stream the backing to the amp and live in bliss :))

    • @codcade
      @codcade 6 років тому

      I’ve been considering the mustang gt100 for my first amp should I go for it?

  • @cra5hproductions
    @cra5hproductions 6 років тому

    I have stumbled onto this channel a while back, thought it was cool. Now that I have recently started playing guitar again I have been watching more and more, love the content guys! And huge props to whomever does the editing!! Love the little jokes and funny inserts! keep it up fellas, learning a lot!!

  • @christopherlake2785
    @christopherlake2785 6 років тому

    Love the English practice of saying 'dear' for 'expensive'... Great vid, guys!

  • @snowforts
    @snowforts 7 років тому +27

    At least this video really made me want to buy a Vox AC10

    • @phantomechelon3628
      @phantomechelon3628 4 роки тому +4

      Well they were / are good enough for Brian May. ;-)

    • @vexguine
      @vexguine 4 роки тому +1

      @@phantomechelon3628 brian may uses ac30... not ac10

    • @johnbishop5316
      @johnbishop5316 4 роки тому

      @@vexguine And quite a few of them.

    • @vexguine
      @vexguine 4 роки тому +1

      @@johnbishop5316 he uses 6 in 2 rows of 3 and a third row just for back ups.

  • @jonathanfancett7638
    @jonathanfancett7638 7 років тому +5

    excellent idea for a video guys! I had this same dilemma recently and went valve.

    • @dmwalker24
      @dmwalker24 7 років тому +1

      Having the same dilemma currently and pretty sure I'm going valve as well. Although the Katana is very interesting. What they should have done was put the AC-10 through a 2X12 and compare. Think the mustang would have been even more in the shit.

    • @jonathanfancett7638
      @jonathanfancett7638 7 років тому

      My dilemma was a little more complicated, I eventually ordered the Blacksar HT1 head and 112 cab (bronco edition) from Andertons due to the great returns policy just in case it wasn't the right thing. My dilemma was I wanted to record and the features of digital were quite attractive such as direct recording, lots of sounds and they sound good at low volume (I cant crank where I am) so I wanted to see if this emulated out was all it was cracked up to be. In the end I decided that the emulated out of the Blackstar KICKS ASS and kept it. As for digital I still think for what I'm doing it can be more flexible so for effects and sounds I have guitar rig but when I want that authentic valve response the Blackstar is amazing! PS, to rob and the captain I think this video was more informative then you think!

    • @dmwalker24
      @dmwalker24 7 років тому

      There are so many considerations. Recording or not, can crank it or not. My thing is I do record my own stuff just for me. Not in a band and I'm far more interested in audio fidelity than volume. I agree about the video. All of these different comparisons give those of us watching more to help inform our choices. Just watched the VOX AV series video and I have to say they are quite impressive at least on the video. In a perfect world I'd have Bea's dual Kraken rig at home volume levels, but yeah...

    • @jonathanfancett7638
      @jonathanfancett7638 7 років тому

      There's almost too much on the market and can be daunting for newcomers to the industry. Option paralysis can make choosing gear a nightmare and can also make you second guess choices you've already made. So much marketing and endorsements from top players, its nice to see two guys who are happy to demo and call out a great product whether they gain from it or not. Yes they can be biased but who isn't when it comes to tone and gear? at least these guys give the people a place to start! also the victory amps are gorgeous and I especially love the cabs. btw have you seen robs video on how to sound like yourself? I recommend it for the option paralysis thing.

    • @dmwalker24
      @dmwalker24 7 років тому +1

      I saw it in the video list but haven't watched it yet. Totally agree with your sentiments. I can't say enough good about Rob, Lee, Bea and all the Anderton's crowd. Hours of entertainment and they keep pushing me to just enjoy music.

  • @jayschlink2304
    @jayschlink2304 6 років тому

    Good for you guys standing your ground! Let me just start by saying that I enjoy and appreciate you guys and your videos. I’ve seen some of the derogatory and negativity you are referring to and it is uncalled for. If for any reason any of you folks at Andertons reads this, know that the amount of people who enjoy your videos goes WAY beyond the amount of likes and positive feedback that UA-cam shows. It seems like in all things in life there is always a small minority of folks who are negative; they are toxic and if you feed into those types of people they will ruin it for you and everyone else. That said, please don’t give any time or pay any mind to those negative people and keep posting great videos as you have been. Cheers from the USA gentlemen!!

  • @JohnUllyatt
    @JohnUllyatt 4 роки тому

    I feel so geeky watching these vids. Thanks!

  • @Panos3500
    @Panos3500 7 років тому +162

    analog pedal vs digital multifx unit

    • @MrZombs123
      @MrZombs123 7 років тому +2

      Panos3500 oooohhh. I like this idea..

    • @felipebouret3833
      @felipebouret3833 7 років тому +1

      Panos3500 great idea, mate!!

    • @artis3dots507
      @artis3dots507 7 років тому

      Well delays are not analog for example.

    • @mikemorgenroth8902
      @mikemorgenroth8902 7 років тому

      What's the carbon copy then?

    • @richardharrold9736
      @richardharrold9736 7 років тому

      What do you mean by analogue anyway? Are we talking some little stompbox like a Carbon Copy, or a massive tape-driven thing like a Binson Echorec?

  • @RockmonsterX
    @RockmonsterX 7 років тому +4

    Totally team valve here. That Mustang sounded like mush in every setting.

  • @albertmorris7501
    @albertmorris7501 6 років тому

    Thanks for the video, guys. I love this type of video where you compare different things you could get for your budget. I'd be interested in seeing a multi effects unit vs equal value in individual pedals. I currently have a pretty old Boss ME-70 with a few other pedals, but the ME-70's on its way out and I'll have to replace it soon, so it'd be nice to see the difference.
    Keep being awesome!

  • @repeatoffender9902
    @repeatoffender9902 6 років тому

    you guys rock thx for the shows

  • @8bigtubes
    @8bigtubes 7 років тому +18

    The JCM800 2203 and 2204 do not have solid-state elements in the preamp section. The JCM800 2210 and 2205, on the other hand, do.

    • @GlazzHalfFool
      @GlazzHalfFool 7 років тому +4

      8bigtubes well, if you consider that a solid state circuit is mainly transistor based, then you have to consider that the transistors in valve amps are "solid state", the meaning of a valve amp is that it's including valves in some part of his circuit, so some parts are "solid state", because I think there is no electronic circuit without transistors

    • @MaineTim
      @MaineTim 7 років тому +2

      Tomer Avira, could you expand on your last sentence? There are lots of valve amps that have no transistors anywhere in their circuits. They might have other semiconductor devices, like diodes, but no transistors.

    • @chrisphillips4461
      @chrisphillips4461 7 років тому +1

      Tomer, a solid state amp is entirely dependent on transistors. The transistor is the signal amplifying component. A valve amplifier is dependent on the valves because the valve is the amplifying component. Valve amplification is the older technology predating the invention of the transistor. Anything using both valves and transistors is a hybrid circuit

    • @megahurtz30
      @megahurtz30 7 років тому +2

      Valve amp, in general, means the entire SIGNAL PATH has no semiconductors (diodes, transistors). The power supply of the amp, on the other hand, usualy has diodes for transforming AC into DC, valves need DC power, but those diodes do not get into the signal path. So, the entire tone is free of "solid-state" stuff.

    • @8bigtubes
      @8bigtubes 7 років тому

      Exactly. That's why the 2210 and 2205 were not as sought after as their predecessors the 2203 and the 2204. The 2210 and 2205 used diode clipping to produce the extra gain. The 2203 and 2204, however, were all tube gain stages. No diode clipping whatsoever.

  • @caljohn88
    @caljohn88 5 років тому +3

    17:56 Rob instinctively reaches for the tuning pegs as if he's playing a Chapman guitar. Good to know he plays his own guitars!

    • @cjellis3263
      @cjellis3263 4 роки тому

      caljohn88 well yeah, kind of his company???

  • @ChrisSchaffer
    @ChrisSchaffer 4 роки тому +1

    as someone coming to this 3 years later and as an owner of a refreshed GTX Mustang - I don't play anywhere but my home at the moment, just a pure hobbyist, and a modelling amp allows me to get a ton of value over an extended period without absolutely needing to invest in a panoply of extra (and wonderful) equipment. If one day I'm gigging I would cutover to any head/amp and a pedalboard in a heartbeat.... but until then, it's great to have a kinda futzy tool that lets me explore a lot for one known cost. It's a known tradeoff, but I think most of us falling into the modelling amp category know what we're trading even if we aren't always proud about it ;)

  • @florianlentz8717
    @florianlentz8717 Рік тому

    Had the Vox some years ago. This is a great sounding amp that was even loud enough playing small venues with my rockin band👍🏼

  • @JackCavie
    @JackCavie 7 років тому +10

    I feel like the older v2 mustang amps were the best. The GTs sound rather flat in comparison, I tried a vox ac30 recently and I've probably spent 4 hours in total playing fender mustang iii v2. Honestly I'd pick the Mustang, the only things I didnt like were the high gain amp sims, but the others were awesome.
    just my two cents 😊

  • @bestplans9051
    @bestplans9051 5 років тому +5

    That blue Petrucci in the background mmmmmm!!!

  • @aswefall6028
    @aswefall6028 6 років тому

    Lee's gotten so much better since the old videos man! He's sounding sick!

  • @davidg-oo1ox
    @davidg-oo1ox 7 років тому

    You guys are the best. Wonderful personalities

  • @ComedyHDgamer
    @ComedyHDgamer 6 років тому +3

    6:30 well played sir, well played

  • @Stropitor
    @Stropitor 7 років тому +19

    I couldn't stop staring at Rob's legs.

  • @OlettaLiano
    @OlettaLiano 6 років тому +1

    I'm in the camp that wants nothing to do with a valve amp. Yes, they sound great, but tubes are just too much trouble with biasing and replacing them when they get burnt out. I like things to be simple, and programming the new digital amps to get the sound I want takes very little time for me. Thanks for this video, you guys are always so much fun.

  • @joseph_lacy
    @joseph_lacy 4 роки тому +1

    I instantly loved the Vox over the Mustang. It’s just an instantly inspiring tone

  • @CIRCLEOFTONE
    @CIRCLEOFTONE 7 років тому +6

    This confirms my opinion that a speaker is the most important link in the chain. The 10 inch speaker in the Vox IMO was the bottleneck that made it sound relatively tinny compared to the Fender's 2x12. And Fenders stock cheap speakers tend to be ok compared to line6 and crate etc. I pref the SS Fender in this which surprised me.
    Edit: Every comment is about what they should have used! Haha. How about just talk about what's actually in the video?

    • @moshfists
      @moshfists 7 років тому

      CIRCLE OF TONE Your friend for guitar tone : You are so right. I bought a Fender Hot Rod Deluxe 3 and it was only when I plugged it into my Marshall 1960A cab that it really showed what it sounded like. Beautiful! I run the other half of the cab with a Marshall Class 5. With a chorus pedal, it sounds huge.

    • @DerEchteBold
      @DerEchteBold 7 років тому

      Haha, aren't the comments like that on every video? What would've been better or what they should do next (the second thing they even asked for here...).
      Btw... you really preferred the Fender?! Did you not look who was playing and had your speakers reversed?
      I mean, the little Vox sounds absolutely solid and even close to perfect while the other one wasn't convincing to me at all, I'd say way too expensive for that kind of sound (and the fact that you apparently can't even play it loud without frying something, Shane from 'Intheblues' said he returned his because of that and I also read it in a few comments, so it can't be just this one).

    • @moshfists
      @moshfists 7 років тому +1

      I was looking for something that I could transport easily and had tubes. The Marshall JCM 900 and 2000 that I used to have with matching 1960 A & B cabs sounded fantastic, but I never gigged with the whole rig. The 2x12 Fender gives me the option to toss it in my car and play pretty much anywhere.

    • @CIRCLEOFTONE
      @CIRCLEOFTONE 7 років тому

      DerEchteBold so you say Shane owned one? Looks like I was in good company for liking the tone eh? Shane owning the Fender speaks volumes and backs my opinion, not negates it.

    • @DerEchteBold
      @DerEchteBold 7 років тому

      CIRCLE OF TONE
      Shane used a Mustang III V.2 for years in live situations and he did that 'Mustang Monday' thing on his channel where he presented custom patches (does it again now it seems, with an old Mustang but he says you can use the patches with the GT's also) now he thought the new GT- series would be even better so he got a GT-200 but he was extremely disappointed by it's sound (and smell), so he quickly returned it.
      That's the story as far as I understood, came across it by coincidence, I don't follow his videos.

  • @chrisbeal5491
    @chrisbeal5491 7 років тому +302

    Cheapest Light bulb vs most expensive Light bulb.

    • @DerEchteBold
      @DerEchteBold 7 років тому +17

      I don't think that would be legal, light bulbs are an endangered species in Europe!

    • @MoooseBlood
      @MoooseBlood 7 років тому +1

      #SaveTheBulbs

    • @caputmundi2382
      @caputmundi2382 7 років тому +4

      Tonebulps?

    • @voiddiary
      @voiddiary 7 років тому +3

      It might be expensive, but nothing beats a room lit with a stack or four of 6550's

    • @smalllhank
      @smalllhank 6 років тому +3

      Cheapest pencil vs most expensive sandwich

  • @seanvandeman425
    @seanvandeman425 5 років тому

    I can fully agree with the E type Jag response fellas! ;) Feel that way with my 1987 GMC R1500 pickup truck and my 1974 Peavey Classic 100 hybrid tube amp! Keep rocking guys, I always have very much loved your videos! ;)

  • @cnking27
    @cnking27 2 роки тому

    I know nothing and just started playing like 6 months ago and I'm blown away by how much better the Vox sounded.

  • @trollfiddler
    @trollfiddler 7 років тому +26

    I bought a gt40 from Andertons to throw on my desk purely for clean tones to practice at low volume. Does the job perfectly. I have three valve amps and an analogue amp so I'm pretty familiar with all types. I'd always prefer any of the valve amps over the analogue or digital amps. I also owned the previous version of the mustang, I found it no better than the gt40. Can't say I've tried the gt200 though, which seems to be the one that gets slated the most.

    • @CrankCase08
      @CrankCase08 6 років тому +1

      Valve amps ARE analogue.

    • @SlightlyTechnical
      @SlightlyTechnical 6 років тому

      Try the blackstar id15 tvp I've played thru alot of tube amps and it comes extremely close I can't tell the difference in a way it does it better in some respects

    • @AustinTexas6thStreet
      @AustinTexas6thStreet 6 років тому

      LoL.... Yeah, I was like, "Whuuuhh?"

    • @HouwariAttack
      @HouwariAttack 6 років тому +2

      There are solid state analogue amps, solid state does not mean digital, just that it uses transistors instead of tubes

    • @sohamchavan6342
      @sohamchavan6342 6 років тому

      Did it smell any time?

  • @zoinkszoinks3716
    @zoinkszoinks3716 7 років тому +102

    Oh God I love these videos...

  • @AndrewAHayes
    @AndrewAHayes 5 років тому

    That's a great combover you are sporting there Rob!

  • @GrimKage
    @GrimKage 7 років тому +1

    The editing in this video is fantastic

  • @connorflynn
    @connorflynn 7 років тому +6

    I bought a Marshall CODE 50 from your fantastic emporium of musical instrumentation and I am very impressed with it (I previously had a TSL 122 (also from your store) the only drawback is it's a bit loud to play at home so i have had to bust out the headphones most of the time.

    • @connorflynn
      @connorflynn 7 років тому +1

      totally agree with the instant access to regular amps, there was a bit of a learning curve with the code with the phone app etc but once you get past that its incredible and you do get so many choices (some might say too many)

    • @SandeepSingh-zc5sh
      @SandeepSingh-zc5sh 7 років тому +1

      connor flynn the app actually works for you? This whole time, I've been lied to!

    • @connorflynn
      @connorflynn 7 років тому

      yeah it was a bit fiddly to get it working but after a swift bit of googling i got there in the end (Marshall really need to make the instructions clearer or simplify it)

    • @SandeepSingh-zc5sh
      @SandeepSingh-zc5sh 7 років тому

      I've got a CODE25. It's a nice amp, but I could never even get the Bluetooth connection to work on it. It just wouldn't come up on any of my devices when I turned it on 😟.

    • @connorflynn
      @connorflynn 7 років тому

      there was a bit of trickery pairing them, you have to go to your phones settings and authorise the app and then pair them in a specific order, ill try and find the link i used for you...

  • @dnc1769
    @dnc1769 7 років тому +14

    I think the Katana would have been a better choice. The Jaguar line has always been near the bottom of the list when it comes to their digital amps. From what I hear, the new Boss amps are supposed to be quite good, so perhaps it might be a better comparison when it comes to cranking up the volume.

    • @lmcf_gtr
      @lmcf_gtr 6 років тому

      D NC the Katanas are good, however the speakers are really 'volume dependant', and by that I mean that as the master volume increases,you get way more treble. So I'd go KTN-HD into some Zilla greatness and you're got a rig for £829 👌🏼

    • @ehMMMKay
      @ehMMMKay 6 років тому

      I tried a Katana in a store and strange this happened, actually distorted sounds were better than the clean channel, opposite of valve and solid state comparison

  • @ericamerica2597
    @ericamerica2597 6 років тому

    I've been watching youtube videos since 1903, and this is my very first comment (i think). You two make the best review videos of anything. I watch car reviews, movie reviews, taco reviews, pajama reviews, dirt reviews, and on and on. and nobody does it like you two. top notch. I usually don't even care what you're reviewing. This one for example, I already know what my preference is (valves), and i don't need anybody to reinforce it, yet I sat here and watched it all the way through.

  • @dannyyoung3644
    @dannyyoung3644 6 років тому

    Damn Capt. I'm impressed with your playing . Very nice opening lick ... Chappers killer as usual ...

  • @justinpatire6174
    @justinpatire6174 7 років тому +31

    why talk shit on Facebook when you could do it here?!

  • @larryphelps6607
    @larryphelps6607 7 років тому +48

    Life of a typical middle aged male.
    day one : be a member of great band.
    day two : create guitar company for awesomeness within access.
    day three : gorgeous wife.
    day four : accept stork delivery.
    day five : eyesight wanes.
    day six : penis falls off.
    day seven : rest ........!

    • @RobChappers
      @RobChappers  7 років тому +33

      larry phelps Ha ha!!!

    • @Fektthis
      @Fektthis 7 років тому +2

      don't worry, with the waning eyesight maybe he hasn't noticed yet.

    • @nickfit3
      @nickfit3 7 років тому

      ever heard the song detachable penis? EPIC!!

  • @itriedmany
    @itriedmany 6 років тому

    Nice playing Captain! We all love your playing Rob, so no worries there, but, Very good tone, finger vibrato, pick attack, note choice and palm muting Captain! Beautiful! The two of you together truly do make a great team! Love your vids! Been watching more and more everyday, and yes, i do have a life, a wife and a day job... cheers!

  • @desimonenoah
    @desimonenoah 5 років тому +2

    "Let me see how loud this goes and still sounds nice" haha the answer is with it off. That vox sounded awesome though!

  • @brandon4379
    @brandon4379 7 років тому +6

    To make the Mustang sound the best and most like a tube amp turn the SAG all the way to the left and the BIAS all the way to the right

  • @TheHeartTheUsed
    @TheHeartTheUsed 7 років тому +3

    Please do a review of the st vincent musicman guitars behind you at the beginning of the video! They are such great guitars but they're slipping under the radar. You will honestly love them!

  • @davidmiles533
    @davidmiles533 5 років тому

    You guys are great. Priceless.

  • @michaelsnydermusic
    @michaelsnydermusic 5 років тому

    Your car analogy was great.

  • @budDG9298
    @budDG9298 7 років тому +4

    The problem is something that was only sort of addressed... Yes, the VOX sounded better, but to get the versatility out of it, you now have to build up that pedal collection unless you're happy with it's basic sounds (which were terrific for what it is btw) and not everyone can afford to do that. If you need the set up to do more, the better option seems to be the digital, which fortunately has a large array of choices in manufacturer, options, quality etc. I just can't figure out why the community seems so divided into it has to be THIS or THAT. Budget concerns aside, I don't understand why it can't be both. They each have their place and purpose, and if people could stop drinking the Hatorade by the gallon maybe they would see that. Good video, thanks for the great content guys.

    • @aixpert291
      @aixpert291 7 років тому

      Barak Graves yes! the thing is "what is it going to be used for?" the tube amp is great at one, maybe two sounds great if you're gigging and only need one or two sounds, not great for fooling around at home.

  • @willgibsonguitar
    @willgibsonguitar 6 років тому +161

    Do cheap haircut vs expensive haircut

    • @zoranallen5205
      @zoranallen5205 5 років тому +8

      Lynn Collett not very metal of him

    • @conradsenior5843
      @conradsenior5843 4 роки тому

      They did that one

    • @johnbishop5316
      @johnbishop5316 4 роки тому +1

      How about an expensive haircut on a bald head and cheap one on a full head of hair?

    • @alexkidd4979
      @alexkidd4979 4 роки тому

      @Agent 88 I dont I just go to a barber shop where I live or local or my dad could cut it

    • @springbloom5940
      @springbloom5940 4 роки тому

      Cheap suit on a professional vs expensive suit on a hobo

  • @AlexTsaler
    @AlexTsaler 4 роки тому

    Such a nice jam in the middle))

  • @fullclipaudio
    @fullclipaudio 6 років тому

    I love these videos. As someone that manufactures audio products based around valves (tubes), this video just reinforces what we tell our customers which is that valves and transformers are the real deal and everything else is just a photocopy of reality. When you hit an output transformer hard, the transformer rings like a bell and does so at frequencies that modern opamps dont even see. Reality bests digital every time.

  • @icenic_wolf
    @icenic_wolf 7 років тому +9

    Cap'n and Chappers! You missed the opportunity to do Headrush (or Helix) vs. equivalent-cash-spent on a tube head + pedals (within the total budget of the Headrush).
    Maybe next time?

  • @Deliquescentinsight
    @Deliquescentinsight 7 років тому +10

    How could anyone be derogatory about Chappers & The Captain? Outrageous, shows a lack of breeding!

  • @matthewscheiper6973
    @matthewscheiper6973 6 років тому

    Great job as always! Thanks!!

  • @guitarmuso1
    @guitarmuso1 6 років тому

    brilliant video ,love the banter between you two .I have to say its the vox for me there is just something about the sound I cant explain why but its just warmer .....will be buying one myself now

  • @marooh1344
    @marooh1344 7 років тому +3

    That Vox amp sounds godly. Team valve all the way.

    • @dushk0
      @dushk0 5 років тому

      Bring Half-Life 3!

  • @aitken1965
    @aitken1965 4 роки тому +3

    The AC10 is a great sounding amplifier imo.

  • @caprise-music6722
    @caprise-music6722 7 років тому

    Valve all the way for me! That vox sounded good. I have a blackstar Ht-5r myself. Small, but good sound

  • @chezwickcheese139
    @chezwickcheese139 4 роки тому

    You guys are legends!