Gen X vs Gen Z Guitar Rig! - Is Modern Gear Better?

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  • Опубліковано 6 чер 2024
  • Boomer vs Zoomer! Lee and Digital John are having a Shootout to see which is better - Traditional Analog rigs or Modern Digital rigs! Which one do you prefer? Comment below! | tinyurl.com/28w9brjw
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 778

  • @jamiebriggs8277
    @jamiebriggs8277 Рік тому +676

    "I don't need wifi, I just need $800 worth of patch cables and three days to build my $5,000 pedal board" 😄

    • @kaivalentine9664
      @kaivalentine9664 Рік тому +47

      And then i need to carry thousand pounds to the gig

    • @johnnylayton1672
      @johnnylayton1672 Рік тому +21

      Extra points if you can show soldering iron burns in lieu of calluses on your fingertips...

    • @MothmanCold
      @MothmanCold Рік тому +14

      No you replace an $800 worth of patch cables with an $800 laptop that you’ll have to replace every 5 years
      *im only picking no wrong answers imo

    • @scottwalsh52
      @scottwalsh52 Рік тому +15

      @@MothmanCold Very true, but who isn't replacing their laptop every 5 years anyway? ;)

    • @akupaasu8944
      @akupaasu8944 Рік тому +40

      ​@@scottwalsh52 Me simple. Me own no lapstops. Me have Marshall stack. Me happy.

  • @shawn9366
    @shawn9366 Рік тому +247

    "Any style?" "...obviously not" Lee's comedic timing really is damn good 😂

    • @progpogs
      @progpogs 11 місяців тому +2

      Took me a second.

    • @waitin4winter
      @waitin4winter 11 місяців тому +4

      Comedic timing? Or simply the truth? 😂

    • @mymodel6
      @mymodel6 8 місяців тому +2

      You don't know what comedy timing means do you...

  • @chrisgoblin4857
    @chrisgoblin4857 Рік тому +333

    I use the Millenial rig. A mix of Digital and Analogue as that's what worked best at the time.

    • @bogdanlaiu8309
      @bogdanlaiu8309 Рік тому +7

      Just like capt Lee. From what I know Strymon does only digital things.

    • @Safetysealed
      @Safetysealed Рік тому +26

      digital modelling unit through a valve power amp is absolutely the best of both worlds.

    • @IZE83L
      @IZE83L Рік тому

      Same 😂

    • @tonoselectricos
      @tonoselectricos Рік тому +4

      +1. Amp sim ( hx stomp ) + analog pedals into the FX loop.

    • @SurdeInglaterr
      @SurdeInglaterr Рік тому +3

      except we suck at music , all we did was memes

  • @Hawkspring
    @Hawkspring Рік тому +151

    Unfortunately, if you fall along the generational seams, you end up buying both. I don’t make the rules.

    • @pedrovictor4256
      @pedrovictor4256 Рік тому +1

      Ye, I play with a strat using flats and I have a pedalboard with pedals and a ampero mini for the modulation/amp stuff, best of both worlds

    • @jamesrouse3466
      @jamesrouse3466 Рік тому

      Very true😂

    • @blue_mountains28
      @blue_mountains28 Рік тому +2

      Or every few years selling everything and yo-yoing madly between old analogue stuff and cutting edge modelling stuff. That shock depreciation of modelling gear never gets old😅

    • @TelesPlayMetal
      @TelesPlayMetal Рік тому +1

      It’s hard to find truth on the internet, but I found it with this comment.

    • @Stboser
      @Stboser Рік тому

      Preach 😅

  • @PikaStu666
    @PikaStu666 Рік тому +43

    I’m a GenX guitarist with a GenZ setup. It’s the future and my knackered GenX back appreciates it!

    • @Safetysealed
      @Safetysealed Рік тому +2

      It's even better in the world of bass mate.
      I now own a bass rig with an 800 watt class D amp and a neodynium loaded 1x15 cab, and the whole rig weighs barely a ball hair more than my old rack power amp alone... It's mindblowing to think about.
      Those years of loading my gear in and out being a 2 man job (and still causing back pain) are looooong gone. and good bloody riddance :D

    • @MetaphysicalMusician
      @MetaphysicalMusician Рік тому

      😂😂

    • @mattdauph
      @mattdauph Рік тому

      @@Safetysealed i know what you mean. My bass, Helix, and two Headrush FRFR cabinets combined weigh less than just my old 4x10

    • @grumpyrocker
      @grumpyrocker 11 місяців тому +1

      Same. While I have owned valve amps, I've never seen them as the pinnacle, just another tool. I've been using digital for years.

  • @jonhmusic423
    @jonhmusic423 10 місяців тому +40

    One of the big advantages to a system like the Quad Cortex, or similar setups (HX stuff, Valeton GP range etc) is that they are all-in-one solutions for multi-instrumentalists. With a decent digital system, you have a single unit that works for electric, acoustic, bass, upright bass, keys/synths or basically any instrument, and you can set up and save ideal patches for each just by downloading appropriate presets or IRs.

  • @Dan_Ranger
    @Dan_Ranger Рік тому +10

    60 years old here. Played them all from old amps, modellers and solid state. Gigged and at home.
    Settled back on tube/valve amps at gigs and digital at home via Two Notes.
    I still like the experience of gigging a valve rig and life is too short not to and it keeps me fit. Nothing wrong with the modellers especially for fly dates etc. sometimes hybrid rigs work really well.
    All depends on the gig and the job. All have their place.
    Still like to feel my trousers 👖 flap occasionally to make sure I’m alive. 🎉

  • @TheHatMusic
    @TheHatMusic 11 місяців тому +22

    I wanted to hate the digital setup.... but I just can't. They both sound great. I think the fundamental element is that whatever rig you use, it has to be something you actually like well enough to spend the time learning properly. If you're familiar with the kit and enjoy playing with it, you'll put more time in getting the tone dialled in properly.

  • @gffg387
    @gffg387 Рік тому +28

    Digital John was updating his firmware at the beginning. That's why he was taking a while to start.

    • @mikeomatic9905
      @mikeomatic9905 Рік тому +1

      Are you talking about his rig or his own personal firmware?

    • @gffg387
      @gffg387 Рік тому +7

      @@mikeomatic9905 Personal firmware. Rig was fine.

  • @Maggos89
    @Maggos89 11 місяців тому +21

    Neural DSP really changed the game for me. I can get whatever tone I want all through my computer in just a few minutes.

    • @rikmcrae
      @rikmcrae 5 місяців тому

      Same here.

  • @mymodel6
    @mymodel6 8 місяців тому +16

    Lee, do more vids with this young fella. Your raport is good, and and he is really on it when it comes to describing the gear and how to use it, great player too.. Top marks.

  • @InternetTRex
    @InternetTRex Рік тому +26

    As a millenial who falls between the lines I've gone with a 100w Marshall, 4x12 and attenuator - because guitar music will always partially be a visual experience for the crowd (and I'm definitely not attractive enough to get on without a good looking backline)

  • @IamMusicNerd
    @IamMusicNerd Рік тому +89

    Being older I used to always be an amp and pedal guy. But honestly, once you’re done setting up a good quality multi-effects unit, they are easy, they sound great, don’t have to worry about someone accidentally bumping a dial on one of your pedals, and are consistent every day. My amps seem to sound different from day to day. So I’m starting to drink the kool aid a bit. :)

    • @NickyAbat
      @NickyAbat 11 місяців тому +7

      It's that amp sounding different day to day bit that always bugged me with analog amps.

    • @markdonatelli5742
      @markdonatelli5742 11 місяців тому +1

      Although you do have to worry about someone spilling a drink on the digital unit 😂

    • @xxxxneoxxxx
      @xxxxneoxxxx 11 місяців тому +14

      ​@@markdonatelli5742 that is also a worry with amps and pedals, bro.

    • @BrendanMakesMusic
      @BrendanMakesMusic 10 місяців тому +1

      Yup, I decided to place a premium on portability, reliability, and versatility. I sold all my tube amps (except my D20 which I adore) and build a board around an FM3 that can go from rock to country to ambient craziness at the click of a button. It sounds 90% as good as a tube amp (if you’re listening through a PA or headphones, which is the only sound that matters since that’s what audiences here), and the number of people who can tell the difference would fit in my car; only one of them would even care.

  • @frankguernier2280
    @frankguernier2280 11 місяців тому +2

    Wow! Such a pair of cool players. The final section just so dreamy and so talented. More please.

  • @marcmays4227
    @marcmays4227 Рік тому +37

    Now on the next episode, he should try and recreate your pedal board with as much accuracy as possible for reference.

  • @baltimoreben1123
    @baltimoreben1123 Рік тому +7

    Gen X here with both types of gear, enjoy it all, digital for practice and analog for playing live, played my cloudburst out live this week for the first time. Andertons really brought joy this year while battling a health issue. Appreciate you guys!!

    • @osmeltorres07
      @osmeltorres07 11 місяців тому +1

      Wishing you good health man. From 1 guitarist to another.

  • @trizzlethompson9339
    @trizzlethompson9339 9 місяців тому +6

    Caotains criticism of the modeler is actually 100% right because that's what a modeler is doing. It is replicating a tone run through and "amp, cab and effects" then miced in a room. What is coming through the speaker is not the amp tone but the miced tone if you were listening in a studio.
    Once I realized that, I fell more in love with my Fractal Ace FX III, because I wasn't trying to make an "amp in the room tone" I'm making a great tone that translates well in a mix! And with the newest updates it's only better!! Analog is great! But a really good digital is so nice! And I have kids so I only play at night and I can use headphones to make tones that translate to a live environment!!

  • @manymul
    @manymul 9 місяців тому

    Really enjoying all of your videos, especially when the captain is on it!

  • @joelhabrial3897
    @joelhabrial3897 Рік тому +10

    I can't say that I have any strong preference, just different tools for different situations and individuals. I have played multieffects and modelling amps, but as I get more specific in the sound I am looking for, I find myself moving to more analog gear. It is some of the best sounds I've ever had, but as soon as I get a fly gig, I'm buying a QC, profiling my amp, and programing my pedalboard into it!

  • @eskilseter
    @eskilseter Рік тому +11

    I'm late Gen-X (1980). I love both, but I haven't owned a guitar amp since 2003, and these days I'm 100% modeling for both guitar and bass. The convenience factor just can't be denied, and after years of pedal obsession and pedalboard rebuilds, going digital has allowed me some much needed peace of mind because I'm no longer obsessing about what pedal I want to replace next.

    • @NickJardine
      @NickJardine 11 місяців тому +4

      In the end, if you are spending more time actually playing now, its a win in my books.

    • @greg6162
      @greg6162 11 місяців тому

      I agree born June of 1980 and I consider myself Gen-X. I’m in the states but over here we’re considered Gen-X until 1981 I think. But I’m buying a new amp… either some digital setup or a Mesa Boogie California Tweed. Haven’t played since 1996… when I paid $140 for a BOSS FX69 GRUNGE pedal to go with my 20w Marshall Tube amp and Fender squire setup I paid $300 all in from my brothers friend when I was 16. I’ve been playing the last 6/months and after buying a $170 LP-special ii and then a Fender Player Plus (SSS) I started a three piece band with the guys from work and I’m getting drowned out by our drummer with a Yamaha THR10II 😂… never played with a proper band and learned the hard way, what you’d think is obvious. So I need a new amp and was considering going digital but I’m lost on everything that’s out now… (btw… I’m not really a great player) should I stick with what I know?

  • @adamsan7494
    @adamsan7494 Рік тому +10

    @Andertons I'd love a gen X walkthrough on what gear is needed for a fully digital setup please. 😊

  • @SirVicc
    @SirVicc Рік тому +15

    Gen X here that has both. Generally use digital for quiet practice, but when I want to have actual fun, nothing beats a tube amp. Nothing.

    • @pauliusmscichauskas558
      @pauliusmscichauskas558 Рік тому +1

      Have you tried playing your digital rig loud, through the cab?

    • @marksvideochannel3592
      @marksvideochannel3592 11 місяців тому

      @@pauliusmscichauskas558 Yep, people always seem to miss that. You turn a modeller up with a decent Cab or FRFR up to the same level a tube amp is usually at, i.e moving air levels...the differentiation of the more modern modeller units is a much finer line.

    • @grumpyrocker
      @grumpyrocker 11 місяців тому +1

      My all analog solid state Orange amp is just as much fun as any valve amp I've owned.

    • @pauliusmscichauskas558
      @pauliusmscichauskas558 11 місяців тому +1

      @@marksvideochannel3592 The FRFR will never be the same as a real cab... It amplifies a simulated Mic'ed cab signal.. Listening to a cab directly, in the room, is a very different experience.

  • @ChrisPaynePhoto
    @ChrisPaynePhoto Рік тому +3

    Amazing idea!!! Please make this into a series? “Metal rigs” of yore and now?

  • @wolfy9479
    @wolfy9479 11 місяців тому +5

    I’m right in the middle. Switched over to the helix which has been great for the simplicity of setup and packing. Especially playing mostly church settings, there’s so many patches out there that are built for specific songs that just like he said, at the press of a button you’re changed your tone. Yet on the guitar side, I still run classics like my 58 Murphy lab 😅

  • @martyshwaartz971
    @martyshwaartz971 Рік тому +10

    Both rigs sound great!

  • @calebwhitcraft1664
    @calebwhitcraft1664 Рік тому +4

    Can't go wrong either way. I love pedals, like Lee I love the immediacy and visibility of just adjusting knobs on the fly, but I love digital solutions for all the problems they solve, too. How many times did I fight a sound guy about my stage volume until my tube amp had the life choked out of it, when I could've just run a digital modeler into a FRFR cab or wedge and got saturated, driven tones at coffeeshop volume...

  • @Deepseasurfer
    @Deepseasurfer Рік тому

    Great solo by John at the end there !!

  • @TheCommonSenseProfessor
    @TheCommonSenseProfessor Рік тому +8

    GenXer here that loves the GenZ setups. One of the best decisions that I made was buying a Fender GTX 50 Amp. It saved me so much money and sounds so great.

  • @david_farmer
    @david_farmer 11 місяців тому +2

    Gen X here I guess - '65. Since around '90 I got totally used to hearing guitar over stereo/hifi type speakers. Being a non-gigging hobbyist (who still buys loads pf stuff) that's been my preferred wy of going about it for years. I like the recall as well, and hearing something a few days later in a recording and examining which patch I like to listen to. It's usually one with much less gain that what I feel like I like playing through. But I can always recall a patch/preset and do a different take and have the recording be seamless.
    There's something I'd love to know more about. I have tons of friends who play and regularly buy gear, but almost none of us are in a band or even play regularly. But we talk abut gear and buy stuff almost as if we are gigging musicians. I'd love to know more about the market, and how many people who watch this channel and buy stuff are gigging musicians, and how many are hobbyists that just like to muck around.

  • @blainetrain2299
    @blainetrain2299 11 місяців тому +4

    Lee is in rare form today. This was a blast to watch.

  • @fairfaxsurfshoprider
    @fairfaxsurfshoprider 9 місяців тому

    John is well spoken and a great player and hes not joking about the Quad Cortex's stereo effect. I am listening on headphones and it sounds huge.

  • @samsantanamusic
    @samsantanamusic 11 місяців тому

    This is fun! You should make a video where captain plays a digital rig and John plays a very traditional one.

  • @dickranmarsupialmusic3184
    @dickranmarsupialmusic3184 Рік тому

    Nice playing Captain Lee!

  • @chrisfreeman5425
    @chrisfreeman5425 Рік тому +8

    It Truly is amazing how far digital processing has come along. But as a millennial i still love having actual tube amps and pedals. But just listening to video it was almost impossible to tell the two apart. Love the video

    • @Cosmo__Kramer
      @Cosmo__Kramer Рік тому +2

      I have both. The difference is mainly in the feel of the guitar while playing. Pedals and tubes feel alive!

    • @chikinonfrydai
      @chikinonfrydai 9 місяців тому +1

      @@Cosmo__Kramerhow tf is a pedal gonna change how the guitar feels lmao

    • @Cosmo__Kramer
      @Cosmo__Kramer 9 місяців тому

      @@chikinonfrydai how does it? It just does..try playing an 808 it gives the guitar a smooth buttery feel..so yea..it does same way an amp fking does

    • @fighterx4133
      @fighterx4133 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@@Cosmo__KramerI'm willing to bet my house if you were blindfolded and given a guitar going through both set ups were the modeler was really well set up you wouldn't be able to tell the difference at all. That is purely a placebo effect.

    • @Cosmo__Kramer
      @Cosmo__Kramer 6 місяців тому +1

      @@fighterx4133 naw..you would lose your house..I started playing modeling amps forever..I know how to set up an amp..I have Peavey..marshall..blackstar..line 6..kustom..and vox modeler's...the vox is great sounds so good....but it's not on the tube level..pretty close..like I said sounds great..modelers aren't there yet..pretty close but just not the same..I have also set them up and switched back and forth just to see how close...sorry you would lose

  • @micwalt
    @micwalt Рік тому

    I'm a solid Gen X-er. But I've always embraced new tech for guitar gear. By '89, I was using a rack mounted SS amp with a BOSS GL-100 preamp and an Alesis Quadraverb. My last live rig for over a decade was a BOSS GT-8 for all preamp tones and effects--first through a Classic 30, then through a Palmer PDI-09 direct to FOH. Nowadays, I'm totally modelling plugins for recording and a BOSS GX-100 direct to FOH (with an frfr for stage monitoring) for live. Couldn't be happier.

  • @notepower-k2699
    @notepower-k2699 Рік тому +5

    "Did u just profile that Zoom G4?" 😂 That goes deep man!

  • @neilweir-smith8228
    @neilweir-smith8228 Рік тому +3

    One of the other advantages of digital (at least some of them, QC is an example) is that you also get the ability to have two different rigs at the same time for the cost of the one unit. For example, I am using my QC at the moment to run both guitar and bass for worship at church which reduces the amount of gear we need to move around while our building is being renovated as we can't just leave the stage set up.

    • @Dr.Jekyll
      @Dr.Jekyll 11 місяців тому

      That’s a good point. On the flip side, if the QC goes down, multiple instruments go down. So there are pros and cons.

  • @johnconnearnmusic
    @johnconnearnmusic Рік тому +12

    Ozwald you did me well dirty with those cuts in the intro #Digital5eva

    • @AndreasKingMedia
      @AndreasKingMedia Рік тому

      Lmfao should have asked him how much time it took him to make that pedal board xD
      Edit: Of course 30 seconds of watching later you did derp

    • @TheOddKris
      @TheOddKris Рік тому

      Roasted with love! You're the GOAT John

  • @bueller8278
    @bueller8278 Рік тому

    sick burns on the intro Lee

  • @SomeKindOfMadman
    @SomeKindOfMadman Рік тому +8

    Use the gear that inspires you to make music, whatever it may be, don’t get bogged down on who’s right or wrong, just play and have a good time.

    • @-EndlessNameless-
      @-EndlessNameless- Рік тому +1

      ^ This answer is the only correct answer. It all a personal preference thing. In a live situation or on a album, no one would be able to tell the difference between analog and digital

    • @stoner255
      @stoner255 Рік тому +1

      This is one of the best comment..I'm agree with u👌

    • @SomeKindOfMadman
      @SomeKindOfMadman 11 місяців тому +1

      @@stoner255 : )
      Thank you kindly, friend

  • @James3of3
    @James3of3 Рік тому +1

    I love collecting pedals, and have a more "traditional" pedal board. In early 2000's when I wanted more FX and didn't have an endless budget to buy 20 different pedals, I got a BOSS GT-10. I couldn't wrap my head around how to use it. Not as simple as I'd like. But, I see the new stuff coming out like the Quad Cortex, Tone X, and Head Rush Prime, and I'm interested. Not going to give up my pedals, but if I ever play live, I'd love the portability of the new gear. Since you can model pedals, and amps now, I think I'd write songs?develop sounds on pedals, and copy them to a "Modler", then play that live. Allows you to not have the large cargo haul if you go on the road, but be creative at home.

  • @corrina9171
    @corrina9171 Рік тому +17

    OMG! Got to be the funniest show at the start. Love the joking and playing. I'm Gen X and I prefer mostly analogue with some digital. Digital sometimes to me seems limiting and complicated, but am always open and willing to learn.

  • @alexc2680
    @alexc2680 9 місяців тому

    Lee - you Rock! Don't change, other than those disclosures but we love you brother 😎

  • @Gene_Cali
    @Gene_Cali Рік тому +20

    Lee's playing is a testament to his love for the instrument. he has so much to oversee and manage on a daily basis, yet his musical skills show he's being true to his love of tones and playing guitar. It's like watching Bob Ross paint. Pure Joy. 🙂 All Anderton's videos are fun and informative without being pushy sales gimmicks! Thanks everyone, music unites us all.

    • @rvaguitars
      @rvaguitars Рік тому +3

      His lead playing has been getting better and better too

    • @Davo2233
      @Davo2233 Рік тому

      M

    • @xxxxneoxxxx
      @xxxxneoxxxx 11 місяців тому

      ​@@rvaguitarsagreed

  • @nitbot
    @nitbot Рік тому +1

    I'm a gen-x who recently started playing guitar again after 20 years. I'm using digital modelling now rather than huge amps + cabs

  • @campy3888
    @campy3888 11 місяців тому +1

    I use mostly digital and it's really subjective but Lee's rig sounded crazy good to me

  • @davidmock9093
    @davidmock9093 Рік тому

    John's comment about "you'd just go to THAT pedal and turn an knob - and the QC you just touch the icon and get all the parameters"

  • @jeffreymorreale7223
    @jeffreymorreale7223 Рік тому

    I'm gen x and i love my Boss GT1000. I usually have it plugged into one of my tube amps via 4 cable method. Occasionally, i take it and plug it directly to the PA at the venue with no amp. It's equally capable used both ways.

  • @EthanDudsGuitar
    @EthanDudsGuitar 11 місяців тому

    Absolutely hilarious banter tho 😂
    I’ve switched over to using a POD GO for the majority of my playing but I still supplement it with pedals in the front and in the FX loop. I usually go straight into the desk and out the PA and monitors so I miss some of that air being moved 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @MrIantodd
    @MrIantodd 11 місяців тому

    Great video, both sound good to my mind. Minus the FRFR, you could take John’s rig on the bus

  • @MartinCraneRockbeast
    @MartinCraneRockbeast 6 місяців тому +1

    Watching pedal owners do the on your knees position chase the loose connection on their floorboard. Convinced me a long time ago that having a shop full of pedals at your feet is the way to go.
    Once had a bassist on the verge of calling off the gig because of his gigantic pedalboard. I pointed out to him he could just plug his bass straight into the amp. Seen Guitarists praying for that one pedal cable or battery to be bypassed too.
    Ardent Helix user.

  • @gingataff
    @gingataff Рік тому +1

    I’m about the same age as Lee and I’ve always played superstrats and high gain amps before going digital in the mid 2000s.

  • @Fiasco3
    @Fiasco3 11 місяців тому

    I like Lee's pedal board his been working steadily to get it where he want's it.

  • @danny-al
    @danny-al 4 місяці тому

    That quad cortex osunds amaxing. Wow

  • @simonwalkersoundtechnique
    @simonwalkersoundtechnique Рік тому

    both sound great! 😊

  • @nklzcyn
    @nklzcyn 11 місяців тому

    I’ve gone both ways - pedals and midi-controlled rack gear. Once one has the rack gear dialed-in the midi controller is so much simpler to use with less tweaking every time one sets up to play. The rack gear sounds great too. However, I’ve been in situations where the software would have a glitch and I was reduced to playing without effects and overdrive. That sucked.
    These days, since I don’t play out much anymore, I use a simple pedal board setup. Even though It sounds fine, I am forever twiddling with the knobs on the pedals because the board sounds different in each venue.
    I think the Gen-Zs have got it right. Once you get the rig programmed you have little to fuss with to get your rig sounding the way you want it.

  • @iancurrie8844
    @iancurrie8844 5 місяців тому +1

    I find in my old age that I just like a clean amp and the me-80 in manual mode. Very similar to having stomp boxes with twiddly dials but also an all-in-one.

  • @rockchunk9417
    @rockchunk9417 Рік тому +11

    I like and use both but the way electric prices and the cost of living are going digital is going to win for home users a laptop + audio interface with plugins will get you a good enough sound to play along with all your favourite records and give you a tonal palette to create your own sounds. If I was doing it all over again starting now I would have saved myself a fortune lol

  • @achanonymous
    @achanonymous 11 місяців тому

    Millennial here, and I've fallen into a sort of hybrid analog/digital setup. I tend to switch between a tube amp and amp sim depending on the gig, and while i still use a few analog pedals, the brain of my board is a Boss MS-3 (a switcher with multieffects built in), giving me the best both of the worlds.

  • @paulanderson6511
    @paulanderson6511 11 місяців тому

    Very early Gen Xer and moved to Helix a few years ago, sold my Princeton, sold my pedals. Never going back. Just so good! I did keep my Marshall and when I really want to blow it up, have the Helix into the Marshall 4CM. But most days, its the Helix into the Powercab and I have 15 or so presets at a button that covers classic rock to blues at a touch.

  • @chrisjs6123
    @chrisjs6123 11 місяців тому +1

    I use both, have a QC and a couple of nice hand wired tube amps. Love them all. That said, if I had to choose I’d keep the QC every time.

    • @markdonatelli5742
      @markdonatelli5742 11 місяців тому

      Same! I got Friedman smallbox and a Mesa mark v. Bunch of pedals. Love them all but the QC is brought to every gig.

  • @get_downed_boi6270
    @get_downed_boi6270 11 місяців тому

    i just bought a blues junior pro 3 along with a helix stomp..... absolutley in love.

  • @jamlemon
    @jamlemon Рік тому +3

    Millennial here, I’ve had digital effects and amps but these days I prefer solid state amps without digital effects as well as an army of analogue pedals. Had multi effect pedals before but find them over complicated and I like being able to tweak the pedals quickly and easily.
    Also I find that there’s just too much choice when it comes to multi effects and I never used most of them. With individual pedals I’m limited in the sounds I can make and therefore more likely to explore the pedal in more depth.

    • @JohnvanCapel
      @JohnvanCapel 11 місяців тому +1

      Other millennial here, I kind of went the opposite direction. I felt limited in a bad way by just having one amp and a basic pedalboard, legit can't tell the difference in sound, and I'm more used to computer interfaces and seeing exact values for parameters - so I went digital and never looked back.

  • @rmp5s
    @rmp5s 11 місяців тому

    For someone just jamming in a bedroom or whatever, amp and pedals works fine. But for recording or playing live, there really is nothing like Axe-FX, QC, etc. Being able to record via USB, MIDI control everything, etc is an absolute game changer!!

  • @insubordinate-arts-crafts-diy
    @insubordinate-arts-crafts-diy 11 місяців тому

    As a full blown GEN Xer I somewhat live right in the middle of all this stuff. I really like "analog" pedals, especially for the "limits" they offer (and the touch and feel and look and stuff). Being physically limited to a certain amount of gear can be really relieving in a creative process. On the other Hand I really like the digital world for the endlessness of it's possibilities, the ease of traveling and the amount of money it can save you (being able to just try if a certain kind of effect really fits my needs without having to spend 300 bucks on a fancy delay pedal).
    So, as always the truth lies in the middle, I think (and in the personal preferences of each individual, of course).

  • @donkarnage6032
    @donkarnage6032 Рік тому +22

    I prefer an amp and pedals to digital stuff. I started out playing on digital modelers and they have their place. I think in my mind why I prefer the traditional stuff is because it's cooler. You will always look cooler with a Marshall(or whatever) stack behind you than a modeler at your feet that nobody can see. Music is about the visual as well.

    • @omgvague
      @omgvague Рік тому +6

      Just do what other bands adapted to doing and building walls of empty cabinets

  • @dabanjo
    @dabanjo Рік тому +6

    My personal problem with the new digital stuff, tonex for example, is I spend too much time tinkering and on the computer tweaking patches. More time than actually playing. Last few years I've been using a "Simplifier" amp sim. It's all on board, and easy to use. Sounds like an amp, with no extra updating or logging on to the pc. Best of both worlds imo. I'd like to see more of the standalone amp sims, where the pedal amp only emulates one or two amps. Cuts down the paralysis.

    • @Lalairu
      @Lalairu Рік тому +1

      I've been comnsidering a simplifier for a long time. You can use it just with headphones or even plug it into a cabinet right?

    • @vicenzor9699
      @vicenzor9699 Рік тому

      The McRocklin suite is an amazing all in 1. They actually keep up with updates regularly so far and it's very light on CPU resource use compared to something like Neural. It's a more straight forward interface with more usable presets than any archetype suite I've tried.
      In the end though it's up to you to limit your time tinkering and find the four or five tones that work for the music you play and then just play. I don't spend much time at all messing with the tones.

    • @dabanjo
      @dabanjo Рік тому +1

      @Lalairu yes yes, I can't recommend it enough. It's not for high gain tho, it's more classic fender and vox tone.

    • @Lalairu
      @Lalairu Рік тому +1

      @@dabanjo mmm I see. Thanks for the fast response :) you couldn't play classic metal or grunge for instance?

    • @dabanjo
      @dabanjo Рік тому +1

      @@Lalairu Oh for sure can do that, and it handles pedals well. I run my entire pedal board thru it. It's just not the best for extreme high gain, unless you have a chug pedal or some type of high gain distortion pedal.

  • @lockharthorsburgh8601
    @lockharthorsburgh8601 11 місяців тому

    The first Boomer rig I remember my father using was a Gretsch Chet Atkins and an AC30. Then he got a Les Paul . . .
    For me (Gen X), electric guitar is through an Orange amp (pedals optional); the favourite bass is multi-scale and gets played through a modelling amp (but I still use a Rat and a wah pedal with the bass).

  • @Oxfordstudios
    @Oxfordstudios Рік тому

    I’m sticking to tube amps. What they should do is mix the best of both. Digital controls and interface with and analog tube foundation.

  • @fipbip2794
    @fipbip2794 5 місяців тому

    I think I'll probably always be an LP through a pedal board to an amp type of guy and update and swap pedals along the way. There's something nostalgic and classic about it that I can't get away from.

  • @MikaTarkela
    @MikaTarkela Рік тому

    I used to play a Mesa Boogie Dual Rectifier with a 4x12 cab but I changed to digital. First I had the Axe Fx II and a power amp with a cab and later on I moved to the FM3 and the Quad Cortex with frfr speakers.

  • @CorbenEdward
    @CorbenEdward Рік тому +1

    Millennial here, my rig is a pedal board going into a gaming pc with all the lights & crap running a few amp sims in parallel. Monitors or headphones for the sound and endless folders of IR's to waste time with lol. My board is half drives & fuzz / pog & other trippy things. Then I take care of most reverb on the PC. Best of both worlds!

  • @kenthhamner2641
    @kenthhamner2641 Рік тому

    Lee the variance you discuss where you need to adjust/tweak each time isn't the pedals, its the tube Amp's performance which varies!

  • @shotgunrebels
    @shotgunrebels Рік тому

    Fantastic. Gen X here. 1969. Just sold my 70’s Marshall and other old heavy tube amps. Switched to the boss gx-100. I did keep my little (and light) 50’s gibson ga-20 just in case I want to go old school ever. And I use a fuzz pedal in the loop. Have not heard a proper modeled fuzz yet. But yeah. I’m done with the heavy loud vintage gear.

  • @JaredGunstonTV
    @JaredGunstonTV Рік тому +1

    Great vid and i think it demonstrates one mans faf is another mans convenience. I think it goes both ways. :)

  • @josealfonso5260
    @josealfonso5260 7 місяців тому

    ToneFactor released a different IR style and call it XR IR (Extreme Realism IR) and its sounds awesome. Would love to hear you guys use those when demoing the QC and other modelers.

  • @narendrakrane
    @narendrakrane 6 місяців тому

    Lee's vibratos and bends are top class!

  • @thedutchdjentleman
    @thedutchdjentleman Рік тому

    I like both but it depends on the situation. For a lot of the modern high production “switching from an ambient clean to a heavy rythm sound” stuff I prefer the simplicity of digital. A button and you’re switched. For more grungy, punk, etc. I do prefer an amp and pedals, just because it’s not supposed to be as precise. I do always want cabs running though, because standing at the front of the stage with the only stage volume being the drums, it sucks not having cabs.

  • @zammie01
    @zammie01 11 місяців тому

    Trying to love multi-effects boxes but I will be honest and say the visual appeal of a traditional pedalboard motivates me much more. Also, there are boutique pedals that have specific signature sounds, like that Cloudburst or Walrus Audio's Slo. Can top end multi-effects compete on the reverb and delay fronts?

  • @andrus108
    @andrus108 11 місяців тому

    I have a board that consists of a dual channel MIAB pedal, a Univibe type, a tremolo, a fuzz, and multi delay, controlled by a MIDI loop switcher; I have an analog sound and digital presets. All I need outside is a clean amp, or I use Two Notes CAB M+ as a' clean pedal friendly amp' sim. While I can't get every kind of exact sound in the world, I can definitely cover the general idea of pretty much everything.

  • @fabinpisary
    @fabinpisary Рік тому

    Outro jam sound great🤩 any change of getting this backing track?

  • @zoomzoom3950
    @zoomzoom3950 9 місяців тому

    I still have my tube amps including a 100W Marshall full stack and Engl 100W half stack, I use them mostly at home though I do have a few 1x12 tube amp combos for grab and go.
    I had digital modeler hardware for years, now I'm building a software plugin computer rig, mostly PolyChrome DSP...just waiting for the MIDI control to be added and will use my KMI SoftStep2 + expression pedal.
    My current portable rig is a Mooer P1 Prime with F4 footswitch; using it for several months.
    Guitar wireless, and I have a silent stage and sound stage options. The entire rig fits in a small bag the size of a kids lunch box, except the powered cab.. Sounds huge stereo out to a PA which is how I use it at home. Sounds great, versatile and tiny.
    It's even smaller and easier to use than my planned computer based rig.

  • @tsargoyle
    @tsargoyle 9 місяців тому

    For years I used amps and pedals.. a board of 22 pedals (yes.. probably far too many but they all served a purpose) into a JCM2000 DSL401 into a 4x12. It sounded incredible. Today I use a Quad Cortex with a Line 6 HXFX in the loop in stereo and it's honestly the best sound i've had. It all boils down to your situation and what you want from it.. me at home is perfectly happy with the QC and even what I play shows now I only take my HXFX and hire in an amp but I think even soon that may change to going completely digital.

  • @KRayxKodessA
    @KRayxKodessA Рік тому +1

    Currently I'm going: Tube amp -> UA OX box -> computer (with pedals mixed in).

  • @ephil105
    @ephil105 Рік тому +1

    John’s a man of taste - Jazz Chorus as the blank slate to run effects into. However I’m Gen X so use pedals into a JC22

  • @philrougier5533
    @philrougier5533 Рік тому +6

    I'm a Baby Boomer turning 60 this year. Nothing more to add, really 🙂

    • @deddiev1718
      @deddiev1718 Рік тому +1

      As am I. But I went through my digital phase in the 90’s and early 2000’s Johnson millennium ART, even line 6.
      It’s all about a good pedal platform tube amp and pedals as it should be

  • @craighambo
    @craighambo 11 місяців тому

    I am gen x and have always been a traditional pedal and amp guy but have just started out in the digital multifx and think it's where I am headed.I would like to think I can cure my old pedal buying addiction but not likely

  • @sybamunki
    @sybamunki 11 місяців тому

    Im Gen X, went digital for a while but have since gone 'hybrid' on my main board with some decent standalone pedals and an HX stomp. I also have an all analogue board.

  • @therisenatlas
    @therisenatlas 5 місяців тому

    I play a Gibson 70's Explorer with a Neural DSP Quad Cortex, and I love it. The QC sounds just as good as any pedalboard, if not better. This video is a fantastic comparison, though!

    • @TheAndostro
      @TheAndostro 4 місяці тому

      mix of old guitars and new gear is so cool at the end the only thing that you are touching is guitar

  • @bryanbuckley9653
    @bryanbuckley9653 10 місяців тому

    i went from no pedals with a multi effects unit to getting pedals and not using the multi effect unit unless i feel like doing something odd which is less than 2% of the time. I find it handy to just turn pedals on or off as desired and adjusting knobs on the fly with my toes.

  • @MarsGuitarOfficial
    @MarsGuitarOfficial 11 місяців тому

    Great subject!!! I believe it’s based on the application?!?! Recording or live or if your playing live are we wearing in ears and running tracks ?!?!

  • @timwhite5562
    @timwhite5562 Рік тому

    Funny, I ordered a DGT SE two days ago with the specific intention of routing it out and installing a single coil in it. I build and service amps almost exclusively, repairing guitars once in a while, but I started out twenty years ago as a luthier in a repair shop. I sold a customer a CE22, and he wanted me to add the middle pickup. I won't lie, I was really nervous routing the body out, but it came out perfectly. I remember saying that it was a shame the guitar had a master volume. Actually, it still is. I don't know why they still do it that way, especially seeing that they have the DGT with two, as well as Gibson layouts on single cuts and 594.
    I'm dropping in a Mojotone quiet coil 67 in it, I think the slightly scooped nature of it will work well with that humbuckers. The DGT pickups are coming out right away too, I just haven't decided what to put in. I have two sets of Wagners: a crossroads PAF in the neck with a 7.4k; and a Cherrybucker in the bridge at 9.4k. the other set are the Fillmore's that are a different beast so together. I'll replace the resistor they use to ground the coil for the coil split with a variable resistor, so it'll be like an internal blender control, and wire the single coil to the neck volume.

  • @onehellofameme6166
    @onehellofameme6166 11 місяців тому +6

    I love the convenience of digital if you are going for standard tones and I tried about 3 different digital solutions and still go with an analog/digital solution of using an amp modeler pedal in the acs1. However the pure creativity of pedal makers is what I love and need. I go after psych rock so crazy effects. Swirling wet reverbs and sweeping flangers arent usually built into the digital effects and if they are they usually arent crazy diverse where as the pedals are just monsters of creativity.

  • @JoeR203
    @JoeR203 Рік тому +1

    I'll take turning a few knobs on a pedal over scrolling thru menu after menu after sub menu to find an effect and then tweak it.

  • @107guitarguy
    @107guitarguy 11 місяців тому

    I’m 51 years old and I’m a digital guy. I use a quad cortex with a h90 and 2 expression pedals and a Powercab plus 2x12. Sounds fine in band setting.

  • @TheProducers
    @TheProducers Рік тому

    That On Every Street bit was played with a lot of feel.

  • @Happy-Me.
    @Happy-Me. 10 місяців тому

    Many years ago I had a rare Yamaha SB-100 pedalboard which although were individual pedals, all belonged to a professional pedalboard case. I've always hated wires all over the place and having to rely on batteries. From there I bought the Boss GT6, 10,100 and 1000. The last two I still have! Very reliable and so flexible with so many more effects, cab and amp simulations that can be programmed with sounds downloaded from tone studio. The idea of individual effects in stompboxes would cost a fortune and the board would be as big as a double bed!! With the cabling and power unit!!! Too much!!!

  • @eddieframpton
    @eddieframpton Рік тому

    I'm a boomer! (1961) and watched this vid whilst putting a new board together which has a HX stomp XL and a Origin Effects (all analog) SVT Bass Rig. Love and hate both depending on which day of the week it is.

  • @kenphillips3282
    @kenphillips3282 Рік тому +1

    As a Boomer, I do have the digital gadgetry for home studio but play live with pedals. I use a medium sized pedalboard (8 pedals and wireless receiver) or a smaller board (7 pedals, no wireless) I need to make instant changes while playing so pedals are the go!

  • @benlogan430
    @benlogan430 Рік тому

    It’s all cool if you can get your sound! I’ve got digital amps (Nextone), solid state and tubes/valves. I prefer to use the tube beasts, but sometimes a Super Champ Xd will do fine or…