I have seen a Kemper in action a few years ago and was impressed how discernible it was compared with the amp being profiled it was. The only thing holding it back in my view was the price. Unfortunately as they still cost the best part of £1400 for the lowest end model in the range, that situation has not changed. Edited to correct spell check issue.
Chris Kocher I'd love to take some of these blindfold tests. It looks exceptionally difficult, especially in something like this when your expectations and preconceptions throw you right off. Perhaps if I'm ever down that way I'll phone ahead and see if they are interested in me popping my head around the door.
Such a good test! I'm also proud that we managed to profile the amps so well that this was the result! The Kemper profiler is really an outstanding piece of kit if you want all the flexibility! Very impressed
Heres my take on this: This is an expensive unit. And for good reason, It sounds killer and when profiled correctly can sound exactly like its tube brother. Take an "affordable" modeling/profiling amp and see how it stacks against lets say a ac15 and a profiled ac15 on the kemper. The whole discussion between why modeled amps/solid state "never" sound like a "real tube amp" is because no one invested the resources in getting it right. Looks like kemper did.
Beowulf Possibly this is just showing it can be done perfectly with software, perhaps in the future as technology progresses the affordable amp may well sound very close to the real thing and the midrange amp will sound like this thing in the video
Now this will cause an uproar in the amp market! Why pay for a Mesa Triple Rec when I can have a Mesa, and a Twin, and a JCM, and an ac30, all profiled into one for less than any of them.
I've had a Kemper for a few years - unpowered rack version plugged into the effects return on a Marshall. The great thing about the Kemper is that it's NOT the death of valve amps at all! Profiles don't exist without the amazing amps to conjure them up.. it's a great way to refine your wishlist of real heads to buy also :) Also laughed at Rob saying he's never got a challenge wrong before, in general he is brilliant, but I guess he forgot about that time he kept picking a Squier tele over the expensive custom shop one :D I keep thinking I should rent Kempers locally to see which bands going by have left their profiles onboard..
Andrew Baena Do you actually have to own the real amp in order to play the original tone? I mean like, do you have to record or mic up a real amp, cab and mic first? Or when you buy the kemper, does the amp tones come already within the kemper?
i dont own one but i believe there are profils on the net, some are free some are not, i dont know in which proportion tho. but what i've heard is that if there isnt a profile of the amp etc that you want, its not easy to achieve this on your own except if you are a sound engineer or tweak master. But then is it worth it to own one when you're mostly playing at home ? if u got the dough why not i guess but even then it wouldnt be worth it imo. take a look at the Two Notes Audio Engineering, it might suit you more.
I think Chappers has been wrong before. At least on a Gibson vs Epiphone blind challenge with 335's. edit: unless it was recorded after this video, despite being released couple of weeks ago
I've played guitar for many years now so i decded to do the test with you both, tuened off my tv and left the surround sound on and i was wrong on both counts. absoloutely amazed by the kemper
I seriously thought you were saying you had this video on in the background whilst you were getting laid, for a second haha. That'd mean you are very comfortable with the voices of Rob, Lee & Co. and was very dedicated to hearing amplifiers!
I am blown away. The Kemper sounded better than the amp it was modeled upon on both occasions. Crazy. Well done Kemper. How many amps can you store on this thing? If they each sound this good, this machine revolutionizes the amp game to a brand new level. Holy shit!
I've been a fan of the channel for years now. This video has moved me to comment. It was great and hilarious to see you both get it wrong and the genuine shock on your faces. I would think you'd fear the outcome (being in the sales business), but you didn't. This is what makes honest demos so valuable here on UA-cam. My hats off to you both!
23:07 The moment the Captain realizes there's no magical elves casting sonic spells in Valve amps and that the sound he's so fond of also relies on complex circuitry.
I am an Andertons TV fan for yeears. Since the start basically. And I soooo miss this energy from the video. I like Danish Pete and Captain together, but Rob you must come back there as a regular again. Rabea is basically Chappers and Captains son from the start and Pete is like an aunt from another country. You guys were like an ideal gearhead family to us. We need you back.
The moment kempers get affordable it will totally destroy 90% of the amp market. It wil happen sooner or later. Just look on the kemper forums, people just want everyone to profile everything and share it. No one gives a crap about the amp companies, just let us profile your amp and share it then tell you some stupid reason why its not having a negative effect on your company. Kemper is a fantastic invention, but dont be fooled in thinking tube amps will still be around or widely use in a few years if kempers get affordable, the only thing preventing these tube amp companies from going down hill is the fact that most people just cannot afford a kemper. thats all. even used thy are bloody expensive. The only reason I dont own one is because I cant afford one, the moment I can get one ill sell my 6505 and never look back. Read up on how many kemper owners whnt and sold all their amps and cabs, as well as stomp boxes, its just not needed. So anyone thinking kemper will not destroy the tube amp industry is delusional or they just cant afford a kemper...yet.
dude completely agree! but maybe not because someone needs to build new amps to model so I don't think it'll make real amp companies obsolete but it will take away a lot of their business
I think this is as true a statement as the kindle will destroy paper books. You've forgotten that humans are romantic creatures, there are many who will anyways enjoy the smell and look of valves. Maybe foolish
The kemper IS cheaper than amps...quite a lot actually. I sold my amp that was more expensive and all my pedals. Now I can have every sound I need and I don't even care if the kemper sounds like a specific valve amp, as long as it sounds like I want/need.
In Europe these are the prices of some famous amps and I think the Kemper is fairly cheap compared to these, and you can profile them all...then yes, consider also vintage amps I'm not including here (prices taken from Thomann): Kemper - 1699 Euro Fender Hot Rod Deluxe III - 859 Euro Peavey 6505 - 899 Euro Vox AC30 C2 - 922 Euro Orange TH30H - 969 Euro Marshall 2555X Silver Jubilee - 1.390 Euro Vox AC30 C2X Blue Bulldog - 1466 Euro Marshall JTM45/2245 - 1590 Euro Friedman Amplification Pink Taco PT-20 - 1590 Euro Diezel D-Moll 100 Head -1622 Euro Engl Savage 120 E-610 - 1739 Euro Fender 65Twin Reverb - 1855 Euro PRS Archon Head - 1945 Euro Orange Rockerverb 50H MKIII - 1968 Euro Marshall JCM 800 Reissue 2203 - 1990 Euro Rivera Fandango 55 Head Black - 2090 Euro Orange Dual Dark 50 - 2090 Euro Orange Rockerverb 100H MKIII - 2099 Euro Engl Invader 2 E642/2 - 2199 Euro Diezel Hagen - 2535 Euro Mesa Boogie Dual Rectifier Reborn - 2768 Euro Diezel VH4 KT77 - 2939 Euro Rivera KR7 BK - 2999 Euro Mesa Boogie Triple Rectifier - 3111 Euro Fender 57 Custom Twin Amp - 3111 Euro Mesa Boogie Roadster - 3333 Euro Mesa Boogie Mark V Head - 3333 Euro Mesa Boogie JP-2C Head - 3799 Euro Friedman Amplification JJ100 Jerry Cantrell - 3.990 Euro Vintage or other HW amps - More Euro PS: KEMPER YOU SHOULD PAY ME FOR THIS!
After seeing Lee on the Pedal Show I kind of knew what the outcome was going to be but didn't expect both of them to be fooled both times. Shows how far the technology has come which is pretty amazing.
I've got a Kemper & 5 tubes amps and IF you profile your amp properly you cannot tell the difference. Tube amps will never disappear but like Rob said the Kemper or AXFX will save you money if your tour. I still remember your very First Kemper video guys. Fantastic video :-)
F**k i love you guys!! I've watched this before but have just bought a Kemper Kabinet so found myself on UA-cam watching this again and i must say....you make watching your videos fun and somehow a bit interactive. You all have different personalities and bring a different flavour to what you create. Awesome. Keep it up. You lads are what UA-cam and GAS is all about. Rock on
I'll follow that up with saying that i am from Oz but when i next in the UK i am coming to your store to buy a new axe in person to give it a backstory and a little more feeling that means something to me (if not anyone else) in my guitar journey. P.s. a signature from the lads wouldn't go astray 😉
I've been saying this for years. Sound is a wave, if you have the technology to copy that wave exactly...then you have a JCM 800, a Dual Rec, a 5150 etc. Seems that the technology is finally catching up.
"Hey, that is a profiled amp sound, not the real thing!" ..... said nobody in the audience ever. Other than the occasional pedantic audiophile, the audience doesn't care what amps you use. I bet if you gigged with a line 6 Spider, 90% of the audience would not notice that the tone was shit. In any case, the Kemper does sound great. These things must be a godsend to touring musicians.
Seriously, while there's some people who can and will dissect tone's and vintage amps all day (me being one specifically with earl AC/DC) My gf/most friends/audiences wouldn't be able to tell a difference between my $2000 plus Jtm and a DSL 40
I loved my Line 6 for a while (especially the fact that the wireless support was built in) but then my buddy brought over his blackface and I realized my mistake.
As I see it Kemper is a great road and studio tool. But there's still the pleasure of having a prize valve amp to play prize guitars through. BTW I truly enjoy these videos. Keep up the fine presentations guys.
For the shear joy of feeling the thump in your chest and your hair move from the air your cab is pushing....tube cranked to 11...that was, is and always will be "rock n' roll". Flying to europe to play an hour long afternoon set at a 3-day festival....well that's called having a job. Like any other job, the more efficient a touring musician is, the better he/she will be at their job. So i guess it just depends on what your goals are. If you are a kid dreaming big...get what you can afford and stick to the standard guitar, amp, pedal set up. You will be a better player if you spend your time learning how play, rather than chasing tones. If you are having a mid life crisis and the therapist, affair and weed didnt work....get les paul and a marshall stack...and a storage unit to play in.
Great test! It show's that time&progress waits for no man! So many closed minded people who don't even TRY things out. The great thing about this is eventually affordability and portability with quality sound will be available to budget guitar enthusiasts. Nice to see ego's didn't get in the way of this either. Honest and open. Nice!
You have no idea how much I've learned from your videos. These types of video opens my mind and ears, to different type of sounds. I was always stuck to Gibson guitar and Marshall amps. Everything else was crap to me. With this i can't think that way anymore. please keep the vids coming.
I absolutely love these blind tests! As a relatively new player you hear lots of stereotype opinions that most beginners just accept because "hey he's better than me he must know a thing or too." Its amazing what happens when your remove bias and get the chance to decide for yourself and make the decision that is right for you.
@@jeffhudson2346 actually I just switched to a stereo rig and face the challenge on how to get my pedal board etc. to work in stereo. also the selector switch/looper I am running has limited capabilities for that. from this perspective a kemper could take a lot complexity of what needs to be taken to a live gig. as we only play our own songs I have my preset for each song, so that would suit perfect for preconfiguration. but i guess it depends on each situation, for me it would fit!
@@PsychoToasterI'm at the stage in my playing where I don't need the features that Kemper offers, all I use is a single channel tube amp, a few pedals not a lot of dancing around turning things on and off. That said, if you are not the kind of player that I am, I can see where a Kemper can be very beneficial.
David Elvis I already converted. No more cabs, heads blowing fuses or tubes. No more lugging pedal boards and tons of extra patch cables, spare power supplies, etc. Many clients and groups I have played with cannot believe that it’s a digital unit. It’s a game changer and an obvious reason why many other professionals have converted to Kemper.
Saxon uses Marshall JVMs in the studio but bring Kempers out on tour with that album studio tone profile loaded up - BIG money saved on shipping costs, consistent tone despite widely varying weather conditions, no wear & tear on expensive tube amps and resulting repair bills, etc. SMART thing to do.
You guys give my brain a lot to think about! And to add, I suck as a guitarist. But my ears know what I want to sound like. Even sitting in a truck stop parking lot in Billings, Montana. ( in the cab of my truck) I'm going to keep practicing. Someday, a Kemper amp. Love the vids. The editor crushes it!!!
are people really that offended by technology progression that you have to make a two minute PSA warning them ahead of time, that a digital amp is used, to avoid hurting them?
I think it goes beyond that though, it's borderline fetishism: people *look down* on anything that isn't their "beloved" valve amps and analog effects, like not having what they champion as being the real thing is an embarrassment and means you don't take your craft seriously (which is absolutely ridiculous, because the gear absolutely does not make the musician contrary to what many brand loyalists will tell you). Making due with what your budgetary constraints allow you to afford or just not being comfortable with spending thousands of dollars on gear isn't allowed, which is ironic considering how musicians have always been seen as starving artist types.
I could tell. They were hearing it from a Marshall cabinet in a room. I was listening through Behringer A3030B Ribbon tweeter loaded, which allowed me to hear the missing really high end presence frequencies, that modellers don't produce. Also modellers, tend to have a little more bass in the overall tone. I think the models of the real amps were really close though.
Got it right. I think Kemper have more sterile, "too proper" sound without micronoises etc but it could also be my mind or guess... Anyway I've been using digital stuff instead of valve amps for quite a while because today's modellers can produce really good sound.
basically, is [hardware X] versatile enough to run [software Y]. For example, can the new Toaster Max 2000 with USB and whatever run Linux? Or "can this or that hardware run this or that game?"
***** It brought super high end hardware to it's knees. 30FPS @ anything over 1680x1050 was a myth at ultra high settings, it took probably more than a year for hardware to catch up.
I was on the fence about the kemper. This is the sole reason I went for it. Haven’t turned back. 3 years as an owner. I now have the stage. Best gear purchase I’ve ever made!
If you think about it, there's darn few players using an all-tube signal path in the first place; chuck a Fuzz Face in front of your Fender and you're playing through a germanium transistor preamp, so why would tubes VS solid state even be a question? Nearly everybody uses both, and you can save space and weight by just using the one. Your pedalboard is most likely just a big complicated preamp, even if some of your stompboxes have tubes. Furthermore, when it comes to playing auditoriums and arenas, you're jacked into a massive sound system under which you have no control, but it's not just about how your guitar and amp sound on their own, but how they sit in a FOH mix, and if you can't tell the difference in a room alone, nobody is gonna suss it from the stage. Nonetheless, I'll continue to use and maintain my vintage amps, which tend to hold more value than any profile.
you are exactly right about playing live. it really doesn't matter much because it honestly doesn't sound all that great live compared to a studio recorded track. you need your high end tube amps for recording the albums and a modeling amp can get the job done just fine without anyone noticing for live performances. Perhaps in smaller venues the tube amp could be more noticeable, but playing in a huge venue is going to make it a bit harder to notice.
Absolutely agree. I have been using the Amp1 live for about a year now. It's a fantastic thing and weighs 1kg! It's 100 percent reliable and takes up no space. Literally no one has asked if I'm playing with a valve or solid state/moddler amp etc because 1, they just don't care and 2, 99 percent of the audience has no idea anyway!
Mojo Bone, I agree with You 100%. I think the real Amplifiers sound way better. Kemper sucks I’m sorry. I’ve recorded an album where my guitarist got lazy and decided to not bring his gear into the studio and just use a kemper, & let’s just say that now he realizes how massive of a mistake that was to not use his real Amplifiers.
Goes to show things like "the delay when I play a sim" and "the compensation of the low end" are on the mind, if you want to hear things in the sim you will, but they are not there.
Great video. I'm interested to see your thoughts on the Fractal Audio Axe FX ii. I'm sure a lot of people would like to see a demo video from you guys!
The problem with that is Anderton's usually demos what they stock in store, and they don't carry Fractal. Actually, pretty much no one carries Fractal.
Daniel Beardsley Right, but that's not the point of Anderton's videos. They're about advertising the gear they carry in their store. Sure they do lots of fun stuff, but it's still based around their stock. At the end of the day, this is all business, and Fractal isn't part of their business.
I think THE most impressive part of this is the fact that it is so close, even though the Kemper does NOT accurately separate what is the head and the cab in the profile, so there will always be some "leakage" between the two parts in the profile, unless you've profiled a DI-signal from a load box and then use IR's or a separate cab. I think the differences are there, but sound equally good. So, even if they don't sound the same, the "bleed" isn't really an issue, if it sounds good, it is good. This argument against the Kemper is quite common, as a con where modelers have true separation between amp and cab. My experience, and only grief with the Kemper is that as soon as you start turning the knobs, you are no longer hearing (or dealing with) the tonestack of the profiled amp, but more of a studio EQ. For some amps, this can be a good thing, but for most you'd want it to act as your own amp if you profiled that, especially if you want to tweak things live it can be hard to dial in, meaning you'd might be in a situation where you'd need to profile every possible variation you'd might think of using your amp. Still, feels good, sounds good = is good :)
I love this video. I'm neither a valve nor digital enthusiast. I've had plenty of great tube amps, and I'm currently rocking a Fender Mustang V2, for home practice and recording. If it sounds good... what does it matter if it's valve or not?? One thing I will always stand by. Tone definitely comes from a persons hands, in some way. When Rob takes Lee's guitar and plays, the sound is very much different. Neither person sounds "better" but they certainly sound different. Once again, great video fellas! Thanks!
I've had a Kemper 4 years and I love it. Never get tired of it because it just keeps getting better. My tube amps are profiled and don't get used anymore.Time to sell them.
I think you should make a series of interviews with valve amp companies on what do they think is the future of real valve amps, considering it is just a matter of time to this kind of profiling technology to become affordable and available everywhere. Also I think this demo also demonstrated that solid state power amp IS NOT a limitation for getting nice tones. Edit: And it would be fun to watch that 10 years from now to see how of the foreseen really happened.
This was the most fun I've ever had on this channel. I'm so glad I played along. HERE BE SPOILERS MAYBE I TRIED TO WORD IT CAREFULLY OKAY I struggled until the end when they dialed back on the last amp. The way it cleaned up versus the one before had me dead set with Rob and Lee. Made the reveal that much more exciting!
Great and honest video, been using Kemper for a few months now after using valve amps for thirty years. It's a big learning curve, but nailed my sound only last week and I could honestly say it felt and sounded like my old Marshall. In my short time with it I found the factory loaded presets a little weak, commercial profiles are the way to go. The biggest hurdle for me is exactly what The Captain said , it's getting over the fact that it's a digital snapshot and not the 'real' thing, but as far as the sound and feel goes Kemper has nailed it, sad in a way.
There is a critical detail missing from this challenge. Volume. The volume level of all outputs must be identical. Science has shown that the brain perceives the louder sound to always be perceptibly "better". Audiophiles in the home audio reproduction and studio world know this. All output levels should be set with an SPL meter and all equipment given equal warm-up time.
It's a easy calculation: Soundwaves are traveling with approx. 300 m/s. 1 second are 1000 milliseconds. 300m/1000ms = 0,3m per millisecond => 3ms => 0,9m.
Love this - I've just bought one myself. I mean from a rig with a BOSS ME-5 back in the 80s, Line 6 in the 90s, and went back to valves. However, it's an entirely different ball game now, as you've proven.
That crazy double pinch harmonic at 19:02 Rob looked over to see if it really did happen, then wanted to make it seems like it was purposeful. #PinchFromHell #DimebagDarrell
The question is not whether or not it sound the same, the question is if it sound good, can you tour using it? YES, cuz once you are on stage apart from you and your crew, 99,9999% of the crowd, if not 100%, won't be able to tell shit.
Absolutely,Wolf Hoffman of Accept is using a Kemper on tour and he said the same.When he's in the studio,he's using all his modded plexi Marshalls and other custom shop amps,but on tour he's using a Kemper,which he has programmed with all his amps and pedals.And he said the same thing,9 of 10 people can't tell a difference.
Cracking good combo of entertainment and info - likeable people, superb playing and a result to drive a stake into the heart of gear snobs everywhere. F'n loved it!
I suppose the saving grace is that the Kemper profiles actual amps, so we still need valve amps to profile. I must say from what I've heard of Kemper it does sound superior to AxeFx and Helix, time will tell.... But the price will have to come down a fair bit
For all guys here. Never make your decisions from what you hear in tests on youtube. Make your own tests then decide what better for you. For your taste, for your music, for your 'feel'. Rob and Cap are great entertainers but they don't play the same. They don't make A/B test. Cap makes decision based on 3ms that he hears from the distance from a cab thinking it's Kemper. The same with guitars. You can't watch some video and think 'Yeah. It's LP Studio sounds like this. I'll buy it'. There are no two absolutely identical guitars, gears etc. You go in the store and there are two guitars with serial numbers xxxx26 and xxxx27 and they will be a little different. You put two U87s in from of a vocalist side by side and record one take. They are different. So test by yourself. Kemper is great no question. Chears!
YES! UA-cam video reviews are at best a nudge in the right direction. You must go to the guitar store and try out the equipment yourself to do a proper comparison. Or just order everything and return the ones you don't want to keep (this can lead to big hassles and expense though.)
Now that’s what I’m talking about!!, 2 years ago you let me try out the Silverback at 2014 NAMM show in Anaheim and it had a tone that I instantly fell in love with. I recently added a variety pack of Victory Profiles including the Silverback that was profiled by 3rd party and I was honestly disappointed as it just did not have the tone I heard over two years ago. As soon as I added your profile today I rediscovered "That Tone". I realize that what I’m now hearing is exactly your preferred settings for your Silverback and this explains why it sounds like it did two years ago at the show. It's as if you came over and dialed in your settings on my Rig. Now the fun really begins tweaking your core tone.
Thomas Gibbs By the time you buy an amp, a decent cabinet, effects etc, you may have $3k invested. BUT it may have taken 10yrs to accumulate it all. You add a piece at a time, you carefully research that piece. If you get it home and you don't like it, you return it and get a different one. Diving in head first is scary. The one thing the Kemper lacks is decent effects. Line6 has better effects. For $3500, this thing should have amazing effects.
Nah man, paying my rent, my phone bill, bought my own car, paying the insurance myself, and funding a band, and paying rent, sure I'm right up against the line financially but I love it and if I can do that on minimum wage then someone with a higher paying job should have no problem, unless you are a parent which is understandable cos that's a whole different game :)
Presumably you can't really change the setting though as it's just a particular response that's been profiled?? Pretty impressive stuff, though not surprising. The tech advances in modelling are seriously impressive bot in amps and in synths. A static profiling is arguably easier. Still costs a lot though, so I guess it's only really worth it for pro musicians.
Sure but it is based on the taken profile I assume? One can tweak the EQ on the Kemper which is dependent on the captured profile, but the real amp's EQ range can not be accessed I believe unless one creates multiple profiles of the same amp?
This is more of the issue. The kemper has an eq set which you can change to your hearts content but, it's not the same as changing the eq on an amp. You can however, sit through some of the deep setting in the kemper and get it to work just fine. In summary I like my profiles and a few other profiles from certain guys but, hell kemper is great if you have few amps you want all the time.
It's at it's most accurate on the settings you profiled but yes you can change EQ and stuff. One weird feature is being able to give an amp more or less gain than the actual amp is capable of. I profiled a little Hotone Heart Attack as I had one lying about and they just don't have a clean sound, yet the Kemper produced one with the gain turned down, which was interesting. It's on the rig exchange somewhere.
I saw a cover band a few weeks ago and they played a variety of guitar tunes from the 80's,90's etc Their tone was A+... I had to go up and ask the guitarist about his amp as i couldn't see it and thats what most musicians do when their impressed with somebody's tone .. He was running a Kemper... So many different tones being a cover band that i knew something wasn't right as there isn't an amp in history that could do them all. Its a sad day for all of us tube/valve amp lovers..................
I did the same thing the first time I ran into someone using the Fender Mustang III combo at a gig. Lots and lots of tonal variety that sounded great, at least to me. I found out he was using a combination of his own models/profiles plus some that he downloaded, and an accessory Fender foot switching setup. No other pedals and XLR direct from the amp to the PA. He told me the whole rig cost about $400.00.
I'd imagine it would be impossible to tell much difference in a live gig setting with ambient noise, etc. Great video!!! Would love to see a video comparing valve amps to the Line 6 Helix. Chappers save your money and your back and tour with a Kemper. ;-D
Chapman : how many watts is the kemper
Captain : 600 watts
Chapman : slowly dies inside
His face says it all
That was the moment he should have realized
you can pinpoint the exact moment when Lee rethinks his entire existence. World view shattered.
I'd be interested to see you take this test Colin. They should have you come down for a visit.
almost a simpsons reference^^^^
I have seen a Kemper in action a few years ago and was impressed how discernible it was compared with the amp being profiled it was. The only thing holding it back in my view was the price. Unfortunately as they still cost the best part of £1400 for the lowest end model in the range, that situation has not changed.
Edited to correct spell check issue.
Chris Kocher I'd love to take some of these blindfold tests. It looks exceptionally difficult, especially in something like this when your expectations and preconceptions throw you right off.
Perhaps if I'm ever down that way I'll phone ahead and see if they are interested in me popping my head around the door.
23:07?
Such a good test! I'm also proud that we managed to profile the amps so well that this was the result! The Kemper profiler is really an outstanding piece of kit if you want all the flexibility! Very impressed
Amazing. And I finally found out you also like chicken and waffles.. :)
I would like to know how you made those profiles, setup etc.?
Hi man. We just followed what the Kemper told us. We used 1 sm57 on the cab. Pretty simple really. Best P
Any chance we can get our hands on the profiles?
Thanx dude :)
Hey Guys, The profiles used are now available to download... Link is the description! :-)
TEACH ME YOUR WAYS WONDERFUL WIZARD
Thanks a lot! both profiles rock.
cheers from Morocco!
Thanks Chappers :-) A very nice treat
Great! now i just need $2450
Fab profiles - thanks for sharing...
The Silverback Kemper profile is the best tone I've heard in my life. I'm tempted to buy a Kemper just for the sake of having that sound.
Holy crap it has finally happened.
How do you not have a tick yet?
Rob Scallon Henlo, fleshy mammal.
Rob Scallon Henlo, fleshy mammal.
omg Rob yess hahahaha luvyu btw
Rob Scallon the axe fx did this in like 2010.
Heres my take on this:
This is an expensive unit. And for good reason, It sounds killer and when profiled correctly can sound exactly like its tube brother. Take an "affordable" modeling/profiling amp and see how it stacks against lets say a ac15 and a profiled ac15 on the kemper.
The whole discussion between why modeled amps/solid state "never" sound like a "real tube amp" is because no one invested the resources in getting it right. Looks like kemper did.
hit the nail on the fucking head man i couldn't put it better myself
Beowulf
Possibly this is just showing it can be done perfectly with software, perhaps in the future as technology progresses the affordable amp may well sound very close to the real thing and the midrange amp will sound like this thing in the video
Now this will cause an uproar in the amp market! Why pay for a Mesa Triple Rec when I can have a Mesa, and a Twin, and a JCM, and an ac30, all profiled into one for less than any of them.
So you can have several $1000+ amps for the cost of just the one unit.
+Beowulf Because if you have a Kemper, you're not just buying ONE high-end valve amp, you're getting ALL of them and everything in between.
The video editors deserve a raise. Top Vid
Thanks John, I had a lot of fun with this one! :D
Rory, you're the beast, really!
Haha thanks Mykyta! :D
I've had a Kemper for a few years - unpowered rack version plugged into the effects return on a Marshall. The great thing about the Kemper is that it's NOT the death of valve amps at all! Profiles don't exist without the amazing amps to conjure them up.. it's a great way to refine your wishlist of real heads to buy also :)
Also laughed at Rob saying he's never got a challenge wrong before, in general he is brilliant, but I guess he forgot about that time he kept picking a Squier tele over the expensive custom shop one :D
I keep thinking I should rent Kempers locally to see which bands going by have left their profiles onboard..
That's a sneaky idea!
Love the editing so much, can't get enough of it...
Haha thanks man! :D Glad you enjoyed it!
This video made me even more incredibly happy to own one of these amazing gadgets
Andrew Baena Do you actually have to own the real amp in order to play the original tone? I mean like, do you have to record or mic up a real amp, cab and mic first? Or when you buy the kemper, does the amp tones come already within the kemper?
i dont own one but i believe there are profils on the net, some are free some are not, i dont know in which proportion tho. but what i've heard is that if there isnt a profile of the amp etc that you want, its not easy to achieve this on your own except if you are a sound engineer or tweak master. But then is it worth it to own one when you're mostly playing at home ? if u got the dough why not i guess but even then it wouldnt be worth it imo. take a look at the Two Notes Audio Engineering, it might suit you more.
Thank You for your hel jean :)
Ha ha - that was fun. Watch out for part 2 later this month for more mind blowing Kemper stuff!!
you guys should do the kemper vs the helix
I am watching!!! :)
I think Chappers has been wrong before. At least on a Gibson vs Epiphone blind challenge with 335's.
edit: unless it was recorded after this video, despite being released couple of weeks ago
And please don't forget to sent one to Dan and Mick. I can't wait to see theirs reaction :)
Its done :)
This is becoming one of my favorite channels on youtube. Both hilarious and, at times, actually helpful. Thanks for all the great content, guys!
Love that Chappers is still using his LTD Tele mod.
Riley Palmer I love LTD Tele too. It plays amazingly well
cause its scalloped
If he likes it, there's no reason why he shouldn't
@@TriteNight1218 I got one too best playing and sounding guitar I own. I need an additional one for different tuning and pickups.
it is awesome..would love to know where it ended up?
well.... how about that.. you just sold about 179000 kempers,lol..
I've played guitar for many years now so i decded to do the test with you both, tuened off my tv and left the surround sound on and i was wrong on both counts. absoloutely amazed by the kemper
test :')
it's most likely my autocorrect, my phone's dictionary is clued up with all the swear words :')
I seriously thought you were saying you had this video on in the background whilst you were getting laid, for a second haha.
That'd mean you are very comfortable with the voices of Rob, Lee & Co. and was very dedicated to hearing amplifiers!
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Yeah, I thought it was some kind of weird British slang I'd never heard of. Really sounded odd. :)
I am blown away. The Kemper sounded better than the amp it was modeled upon on both occasions. Crazy. Well done Kemper. How many amps can you store on this thing? If they each sound this good, this machine revolutionizes the amp game to a brand new level. Holy shit!
Awkward moment when the kemper sounds better than the real silverback.
FlourescentPotato
Seriously though. I honestly thought it sounded notably better.
I've been a fan of the channel for years now. This video has moved me to comment. It was great and hilarious to see you both get it wrong and the genuine shock on your faces. I would think you'd fear the outcome (being in the sales business), but you didn't. This is what makes honest demos so valuable here on UA-cam. My hats off to you both!
I love the way Rabea smiles at the camera (pause it at 21:55) just after he gets in front of the camera. The smile said it all. Wow.
23:07 The moment the Captain realizes there's no magical elves casting sonic spells in Valve amps and that the sound he's so fond of also relies on complex circuitry.
i watch this not being able to afford either lol
I feel you bro
Get a Mooer Preamp Live instead.
You can do what I did and purchase the Kemper on Zzounds with 12 payments of like 185.00 a month. That is pretty darn affordable.
I love seeing Rob playing that guitar, reminds me of all the fun you can have starting out with a relatively inexpensive guitar!
Thanks, guys- just bought a Kemper, and I'm feeling rather smug at the minute. 👍
I'am too🤘
I am an Andertons TV fan for yeears. Since the start basically. And I soooo miss this energy from the video. I like Danish Pete and Captain together, but Rob you must come back there as a regular again. Rabea is basically Chappers and Captains son from the start and Pete is like an aunt from another country. You guys were like an ideal gearhead family to us. We need you back.
I agree so much with this comment!!
The moment kempers get affordable it will totally destroy 90% of the amp market. It wil happen sooner or later. Just look on the kemper forums, people just want everyone to profile everything and share it. No one gives a crap about the amp companies, just let us profile your amp and share it then tell you some stupid reason why its not having a negative effect on your company.
Kemper is a fantastic invention, but dont be fooled in thinking tube amps will still be around or widely use in a few years if kempers get affordable, the only thing preventing these tube amp companies from going down hill is the fact that most people just cannot afford a kemper. thats all. even used thy are bloody expensive. The only reason I dont own one is because I cant afford one, the moment I can get one ill sell my 6505 and never look back. Read up on how many kemper owners whnt and sold all their amps and cabs, as well as stomp boxes, its just not needed. So anyone thinking kemper will not destroy the tube amp industry is delusional or they just cant afford a kemper...yet.
dude completely agree! but maybe not because someone needs to build new amps to model so I don't think it'll make real amp companies obsolete but it will take away a lot of their business
I think this is as true a statement as the kindle will destroy paper books. You've forgotten that humans are romantic creatures, there are many who will anyways enjoy the smell and look of valves. Maybe foolish
The kemper IS cheaper than amps...quite a lot actually. I sold my amp that was more expensive and all my pedals. Now I can have every sound I need and I don't even care if the kemper sounds like a specific valve amp, as long as it sounds like I want/need.
in what universe is the kemper cheaper, as far as i know it cost 2000 bucks, maybe a 100 watt boutique would cost about that much
In Europe these are the prices of some famous amps and I think the Kemper is fairly cheap compared to these, and you can profile them all...then yes, consider also vintage amps I'm not including here (prices taken from Thomann):
Kemper - 1699 Euro
Fender Hot Rod Deluxe III - 859 Euro
Peavey 6505 - 899 Euro
Vox AC30 C2 - 922 Euro
Orange TH30H - 969 Euro
Marshall 2555X Silver Jubilee - 1.390 Euro
Vox AC30 C2X Blue Bulldog - 1466 Euro
Marshall JTM45/2245 - 1590 Euro
Friedman Amplification Pink Taco PT-20 - 1590 Euro
Diezel D-Moll 100 Head -1622 Euro
Engl Savage 120 E-610 - 1739 Euro
Fender 65Twin Reverb - 1855 Euro
PRS Archon Head - 1945 Euro
Orange Rockerverb 50H MKIII - 1968 Euro
Marshall JCM 800 Reissue 2203 - 1990 Euro
Rivera Fandango 55 Head Black - 2090 Euro
Orange Dual Dark 50 - 2090 Euro
Orange Rockerverb 100H MKIII - 2099 Euro
Engl Invader 2 E642/2 - 2199 Euro
Diezel Hagen - 2535 Euro
Mesa Boogie Dual Rectifier Reborn - 2768 Euro
Diezel VH4 KT77 - 2939 Euro
Rivera KR7 BK - 2999 Euro
Mesa Boogie Triple Rectifier - 3111 Euro
Fender 57 Custom Twin Amp - 3111 Euro
Mesa Boogie Roadster - 3333 Euro
Mesa Boogie Mark V Head - 3333 Euro
Mesa Boogie JP-2C Head - 3799 Euro
Friedman Amplification JJ100 Jerry Cantrell - 3.990 Euro
Vintage or other HW amps - More Euro
PS: KEMPER YOU SHOULD PAY ME FOR THIS!
i love how pete's smirking the whole time like "yeah i could have told the difference".
Did Pete leave Mesa Boogie and join Andertons? i remember him well from the Mesa Cab Clone vid
Only because I profiled the amps, otherwise I wouldn't have been able to tell.. :)
See reply above :)
After seeing Lee on the Pedal Show I kind of knew what the outcome was going to be but didn't expect both of them to be fooled both times. Shows how far the technology has come which is pretty amazing.
I've got a Kemper & 5 tubes amps and IF you profile your amp properly you cannot tell the difference. Tube amps will never disappear but like Rob said the Kemper or AXFX will save you money if your tour. I still remember your very First Kemper video guys. Fantastic video :-)
F**k i love you guys!! I've watched this before but have just bought a Kemper Kabinet so found myself on UA-cam watching this again and i must say....you make watching your videos fun and somehow a bit interactive. You all have different personalities and bring a different flavour to what you create. Awesome. Keep it up. You lads are what UA-cam and GAS is all about. Rock on
I'll follow that up with saying that i am from Oz but when i next in the UK i am coming to your store to buy a new axe in person to give it a backstory and a little more feeling that means something to me (if not anyone else) in my guitar journey.
P.s. a signature from the lads wouldn't go astray 😉
I've been saying this for years. Sound is a wave, if you have the technology to copy that wave exactly...then you have a JCM 800, a Dual Rec, a 5150 etc. Seems that the technology is finally catching up.
*has finally caught up
*caught up
Not all the amps can be cloned successfully yet.
Yes, all amps can be profiled (cloned) successfully. It only needs the right skills and the right tools
That is greatly over simplifying the issue
"Hey, that is a profiled amp sound, not the real thing!" ..... said nobody in the audience ever. Other than the occasional pedantic audiophile, the audience doesn't care what amps you use. I bet if you gigged with a line 6 Spider, 90% of the audience would not notice that the tone was shit.
In any case, the Kemper does sound great. These things must be a godsend to touring musicians.
Hey, don't insult my Line 6 Spider amp!!
Seriously, while there's some people who can and will dissect tone's and vintage amps all day (me being one specifically with earl AC/DC) My gf/most friends/audiences wouldn't be able to tell a difference between my $2000 plus Jtm and a DSL 40
Truth
I loved my Line 6 for a while (especially the fact that the wireless support was built in) but then my buddy brought over his blackface and I realized my mistake.
It's more about how it sounds to you. If you are playing something that sounds crap to you, you will be less inspired.
As I see it Kemper is a great road and studio tool. But there's still the pleasure of having a prize valve amp to play prize guitars through. BTW I truly enjoy these videos. Keep up the fine presentations guys.
For the shear joy of feeling the thump in your chest and your hair move from the air your cab is pushing....tube cranked to 11...that was, is and always will be "rock n' roll".
Flying to europe to play an hour long afternoon set at a 3-day festival....well that's called having a job. Like any other job, the more efficient a touring musician is, the better he/she will be at their job.
So i guess it just depends on what your goals are. If you are a kid dreaming big...get what you can afford and stick to the standard guitar, amp, pedal set up. You will be a better player if you spend your time learning how play, rather than chasing tones.
If you are having a mid life crisis and the therapist, affair and weed didnt work....get les paul and a marshall stack...and a storage unit to play in.
I appreciate that Rob understands volume tappers. Well done my friend
Thank you for actually addressing the Feel of the amps/devices. Very, very few people do that in videos. ... and for me that is Super-important!
2020 and I still love and own my Kemper..
Great test! It show's that time&progress waits for no man! So many closed minded people who don't even TRY things out. The great thing about this is eventually affordability and portability with quality sound will be available to budget guitar enthusiasts. Nice to see ego's didn't get in the way of this either. Honest and open. Nice!
Dream rig for home studio: Kemper Profiling Amp, Fractal FX8, and Two Notes Torpedo.
You have no idea how much I've learned from your videos. These types of video opens my mind and ears, to different type of sounds. I was always stuck to Gibson guitar and Marshall amps. Everything else was crap to me. With this i can't think that way anymore. please keep the vids coming.
I watch this every couple months as it’s one of my favourite videos on UA-cam, can’t beat their reactions
I absolutely love these blind tests! As a relatively new player you hear lots of stereotype opinions that most beginners just accept because "hey he's better than me he must know a thing or too." Its amazing what happens when your remove bias and get the chance to decide for yourself and make the decision that is right for you.
Who is watching this video in 2019 and saying l need a KEMPER IN MY LIFE?
true that. gonna sell my amps now...wait, maybe after i profiled them.
I'm not. It has nothing to do with tone, it has to do with simplicity.
@@jeffhudson2346 actually I just switched to a stereo rig and face the challenge on how to get my pedal board etc. to work in stereo. also the selector switch/looper I am running has limited capabilities for that. from this perspective a kemper could take a lot complexity of what needs to be taken to a live gig. as we only play our own songs I have my preset for each song, so that would suit perfect for preconfiguration. but i guess it depends on each situation, for me it would fit!
@@PsychoToasterI'm at the stage in my playing where I don't need the features that Kemper offers, all I use is a single channel tube amp, a few pedals not a lot of dancing around turning things on and off. That said, if you are not the kind of player that I am, I can see where a Kemper can be very beneficial.
David Elvis I already converted. No more cabs, heads blowing fuses or tubes. No more lugging pedal boards and tons of extra patch cables, spare power supplies, etc. Many clients and groups I have played with cannot believe that it’s a digital unit. It’s a game changer and an obvious reason why many other professionals have converted to Kemper.
Saxon uses Marshall JVMs in the studio but bring Kempers out on tour with that album studio tone profile loaded up - BIG money saved on shipping costs, consistent tone despite widely varying weather conditions, no wear & tear on expensive tube amps and resulting repair bills, etc. SMART thing to do.
This video had me cracking up. I can't get enough of these 4 guys.
You guys give my brain a lot to think about! And to add, I suck as a guitarist. But my ears know what I want to sound like. Even sitting in a truck stop parking lot in Billings, Montana. ( in the cab of my truck) I'm going to keep practicing. Someday, a Kemper amp. Love the vids. The editor crushes it!!!
That "clean" tone is more driven than my drive tone.
hahahaha mine too!!!! XD
I have a Kemper, and i'am the happiest musican in the world👍🤘
are people really that offended by technology progression that you have to make a two minute PSA warning them ahead of time, that a digital amp is used, to avoid hurting them?
The answer is, yes. This is the internet and people will go nuts on literally anything.
I'll never understand the backlash against digital amps, it's like "ruining my childhood"-caliber animosity.
People have a digital stigma though, they won't even give digital amps a look and feel insulted by even the suggestion of trying one out.
Tell that to the guys who write 'em off, I'm no valve purist!
I think it goes beyond that though, it's borderline fetishism: people *look down* on anything that isn't their "beloved" valve amps and analog effects, like not having what they champion as being the real thing is an embarrassment and means you don't take your craft seriously (which is absolutely ridiculous, because the gear absolutely does not make the musician contrary to what many brand loyalists will tell you). Making due with what your budgetary constraints allow you to afford or just not being comfortable with spending thousands of dollars on gear isn't allowed, which is ironic considering how musicians have always been seen as starving artist types.
Chapters left speechless! Finally! Lol Long live the King... every blindfold prior like a freakin wizard. Amazing device... unbelievable.
Rob is a MASTER!!! Watching this again years later and still Amazed🤯
i played along with you and i would have gotten it wrong too...mind blown....
watched it again and its ridiculous....
right ? like,what the fuck ?
I could tell. They were hearing it from a Marshall cabinet in a room. I was listening through Behringer A3030B Ribbon tweeter loaded, which allowed me to hear the missing really high end presence frequencies, that modellers don't produce. Also modellers, tend to have a little more bass in the overall tone. I think the models of the real amps were really close though.
TMmodify nnh
Got it right. I think Kemper have more sterile, "too proper" sound without micronoises etc but it could also be my mind or guess... Anyway I've been using digital stuff instead of valve amps for quite a while because today's modellers can produce really good sound.
Rob 'I'v been Rob Chappers'
Lee 'I'v been humiliated' Lol
Chappers your Dorje album needs to be called incredibly handy knob guard.
I think thats what the rest of the band call Chappers! ;-)
Can we take a moment to appreciate this cabinet? God, that sounds amazing
Oh poor Capt. Lee. He was right at first with the Fender but totally talked himself out of it.
Best video yet!
That was the longest second of my life.
But can it play Crysis?
lol
I'm sure Captain would say it has input lag if it did.
basically, is [hardware X] versatile enough to run [software Y]. For example, can the new Toaster Max 2000 with USB and whatever run Linux? Or "can this or that hardware run this or that game?"
***** It brought super high end hardware to it's knees. 30FPS @ anything over 1680x1050 was a myth at ultra high settings, it took probably more than a year for hardware to catch up.
Still looks pretty stunning now tbh Very High at 1080p Stephen H.
Will you be offering those profiles :-)?
I don't see any reason why not - will probably put links to them in the description box above
Hi Dude. I have them here I think. Did I give them to you? DP
+Peter Honoré aka Danish Pete hey dude, Bea has them!!
Awesome.. Sweeet. Chicken N Waffles for everyone :)..
awesome thank you =) the silverback sounded really impressive! PS: Check out "Michael Britt Profiles" - absolutely stunning
I was on the fence about the kemper. This is the sole reason I went for it. Haven’t turned back. 3 years as an owner. I now have the stage. Best gear purchase I’ve ever made!
Are you still enjoying it? I'm thinking about getting the Stage soon.
@@metalloid3417 Still loving it. My brother just went from tube amp and pedals to a stage earlier this week. No complaints.
I bought a Kemper a few weeks ago on the strength of this video,
it is superb, I love it!
If you think about it, there's darn few players using an all-tube signal path in the first place; chuck a Fuzz Face in front of your Fender and you're playing through a germanium transistor preamp, so why would tubes VS solid state even be a question? Nearly everybody uses both, and you can save space and weight by just using the one. Your pedalboard is most likely just a big complicated preamp, even if some of your stompboxes have tubes. Furthermore, when it comes to playing auditoriums and arenas, you're jacked into a massive sound system under which you have no control, but it's not just about how your guitar and amp sound on their own, but how they sit in a FOH mix, and if you can't tell the difference in a room alone, nobody is gonna suss it from the stage. Nonetheless, I'll continue to use and maintain my vintage amps, which tend to hold more value than any profile.
you are exactly right about playing live. it really doesn't matter much because it honestly doesn't sound all that great live compared to a studio recorded track. you need your high end tube amps for recording the albums and a modeling amp can get the job done just fine without anyone noticing for live performances. Perhaps in smaller venues the tube amp could be more noticeable, but playing in a huge venue is going to make it a bit harder to notice.
Absolutely agree. I have been using the Amp1 live for about a year now. It's a fantastic thing and weighs 1kg! It's 100 percent reliable and takes up no space. Literally no one has asked if I'm playing with a valve or solid state/moddler amp etc because 1, they just don't care and 2, 99 percent of the audience has no idea anyway!
Mojo Bone, I agree with You 100%. I think the real Amplifiers sound way better. Kemper sucks I’m sorry. I’ve recorded an album where my guitarist got lazy and decided to not bring his gear into the studio and just use a kemper, & let’s just say that now he realizes how massive of a mistake that was to not use his real Amplifiers.
Looks like someone is listening with his eyes.
Goes to show things like "the delay when I play a sim" and "the compensation of the low end" are on the mind, if you want to hear things in the sim you will, but they are not there.
Great video. I'm interested to see your thoughts on the Fractal Audio Axe FX ii. I'm sure a lot of people would like to see a demo video from you guys!
Yeah like a Axe FX vs Kemper video. I've always wondered about the differences!
The problem with that is Anderton's usually demos what they stock in store, and they don't carry Fractal. Actually, pretty much no one carries Fractal.
Fractal doesn't sell through retailers AFAIK.
I'm sure these guys can get hold of one to demo.
Daniel Beardsley Right, but that's not the point of Anderton's videos. They're about advertising the gear they carry in their store. Sure they do lots of fun stuff, but it's still based around their stock. At the end of the day, this is all business, and Fractal isn't part of their business.
I think THE most impressive part of this is the fact that it is so close, even though the Kemper does NOT accurately separate what is the head and the cab in the profile, so there will always be some "leakage" between the two parts in the profile, unless you've profiled a DI-signal from a load box and then use IR's or a separate cab. I think the differences are there, but sound equally good. So, even if they don't sound the same, the "bleed" isn't really an issue, if it sounds good, it is good. This argument against the Kemper is quite common, as a con where modelers have true separation between amp and cab.
My experience, and only grief with the Kemper is that as soon as you start turning the knobs, you are no longer hearing (or dealing with) the tonestack of the profiled amp, but more of a studio EQ. For some amps, this can be a good thing, but for most you'd want it to act as your own amp if you profiled that, especially if you want to tweak things live it can be hard to dial in, meaning you'd might be in a situation where you'd need to profile every possible variation you'd might think of using your amp.
Still, feels good, sounds good = is good :)
I love this video. I'm neither a valve nor digital enthusiast. I've had plenty of great tube amps, and I'm currently rocking a Fender Mustang V2, for home practice and recording. If it sounds good... what does it matter if it's valve or not??
One thing I will always stand by. Tone definitely comes from a persons hands, in some way. When Rob takes Lee's guitar and plays, the sound is very much different. Neither person sounds "better" but they certainly sound different.
Once again, great video fellas! Thanks!
I'd love to see a supercut of every time Chappers plays that high note on the 12th fret.
Did Rabea loose a shit ton of weight? Good for you bro!
if that is true i should win the box of mooer pedals
No, he tightened a shit ton of weight. He's a hero.
I second your disdain for poor grammar....
I tried profiling my pet Hamster.
Did it work?
+Goofy GooberInc He died, but I now have an almost identical replica ;)
Not gonna even think where you plugged in
I was hoping for a Rodentry Speaker sound ;)
So sorry for your loss. At least you can take heart in knowing the world will now have an infinite supply of the cute little guy.
I've had a Kemper 4 years and I love it. Never get tired of it because it just keeps getting better. My tube amps are profiled and don't get used anymore.Time to sell them.
I think you should make a series of interviews with valve amp companies on what do they think is the future of real valve amps, considering it is just a matter of time to this kind of profiling technology to become affordable and available everywhere. Also I think this demo also demonstrated that solid state power amp IS NOT a limitation for getting nice tones. Edit: And it would be fun to watch that 10 years from now to see how of the foreseen really happened.
This was the most fun I've ever had on this channel. I'm so glad I played along.
HERE BE SPOILERS MAYBE I TRIED TO WORD IT CAREFULLY OKAY
I struggled until the end when they dialed back on the last amp. The way it cleaned up versus the one before had me dead set with Rob and Lee. Made the reveal that much more exciting!
"i can feel it" "i can hear the difference"
...
no you cant.
Finally the vodoo stops. Time to safe up for this thing.
I'd love to see a shoot out of helix vs axe fx vs kemper vs bias amp.
For the sake of fours. Please do that!!
Great and honest video, been using Kemper for a few months now after using valve amps for thirty years. It's a big learning curve, but nailed my sound only last week and I could honestly say it felt and sounded like my old Marshall. In my short time with it I found the factory loaded presets a little weak, commercial profiles are the way to go. The biggest hurdle for me is exactly what The Captain said , it's getting over the fact that it's a digital snapshot and not the 'real' thing, but as far as the sound and feel goes Kemper has nailed it, sad in a way.
I was blown away and glad you guys did this, very impressed with the Kemper.
There is a critical detail missing from this challenge. Volume. The volume level of all outputs must be identical. Science has shown that the brain perceives the louder sound to always be perceptibly "better". Audiophiles in the home audio reproduction and studio world know this. All output levels should be set with an SPL meter and all equipment given equal warm-up time.
The one second later... bit had me properly laughing out loud!
Remember: There's already about 3ms of delay when you're playing with a distance of only 1 meter in front of your cabinet.
Good old speed of sound =)
Really...I didn't know that. Good to know.
Plus the time it takes to the signal of your pups to get to the amp, be amplified and sent to the cab
It's neglectable, if it's a completely analog system. Because the electrons are moving at almost lightspeed through the circuit.
It's a easy calculation: Soundwaves are traveling with approx. 300 m/s. 1 second are 1000 milliseconds. 300m/1000ms = 0,3m per millisecond => 3ms => 0,9m.
Holy shit! This really makes me want to buy a Kemper. You guys always get this test right but now you couldn't tell the difference, I'm sold!
Love this - I've just bought one myself. I mean from a rig with a BOSS ME-5 back in the 80s, Line 6 in the 90s, and went back to valves. However, it's an entirely different ball game now, as you've proven.
18:37 Cap finally realizes he loves metal
"Fuck yeah," he says 😂
That crazy double pinch harmonic at 19:02 Rob looked over to see if it really did happen, then wanted to make it seems like it was purposeful. #PinchFromHell #DimebagDarrell
The question is not whether or not it sound the same, the question is if it sound good, can you tour using it? YES, cuz once you are on stage apart from you and your crew, 99,9999% of the crowd, if not 100%, won't be able to tell shit.
well, I would say, for a profiling amp, the whole point is that it should sound the same as the original setup.
Nope, its about sounding good and as close as possible. You will get minor differences like that just by moving your amp around a biot.
djteac exactly
Absolutely,Wolf Hoffman of Accept is using a Kemper on tour and he said the same.When he's in the studio,he's using all his modded plexi Marshalls and other custom shop amps,but on tour he's using a Kemper,which he has programmed with all his amps and pedals.And he said the same thing,9 of 10 people can't tell a difference.
in the past some bands (twisted sisters, dave mustaine, evanescance). were using line 6 live and the poeple did not seam to hear the difference .
They trying to hide the smiles at 21:54 is priceless!
Cracking good combo of entertainment and info - likeable people, superb playing and a result to drive a stake into the heart of gear snobs everywhere.
F'n loved it!
I suppose the saving grace is that the Kemper profiles actual amps, so we still need valve amps to profile. I must say from what I've heard of Kemper it does sound superior to AxeFx and Helix, time will tell.... But the price will have to come down a fair bit
For all guys here. Never make your decisions from what you hear in tests on youtube. Make your own tests then decide what better for you. For your taste, for your music, for your 'feel'. Rob and Cap are great entertainers but they don't play the same. They don't make A/B test. Cap makes decision based on 3ms that he hears from the distance from a cab thinking it's Kemper. The same with guitars. You can't watch some video and think 'Yeah. It's LP Studio sounds like this. I'll buy it'. There are no two absolutely identical guitars, gears etc. You go in the store and there are two guitars with serial numbers xxxx26 and xxxx27 and they will be a little different. You put two U87s in from of a vocalist side by side and record one take. They are different. So test by yourself. Kemper is great no question. Chears!
YES! UA-cam video reviews are at best a nudge in the right direction. You must go to the guitar store and try out the equipment yourself to do a proper comparison. Or just order everything and return the ones you don't want to keep (this can lead to big hassles and expense though.)
So out of interest can you download other profiles somewhere or do you have to profile a real amp yourself in order to get the sound?
You can download them :-)
+Rob Chapman domo arigato senpai.
+Lee walker are amp profiles free ?
Their are various websites offering profiles online. Some are free, some are not.
Joe Kiernan ok thanks ^^
Now that’s what I’m talking about!!, 2 years ago you let me try out the Silverback at 2014 NAMM show in Anaheim and it had a tone that I instantly fell in love with. I recently added a variety pack of Victory Profiles including the Silverback that was profiled by 3rd party and I was honestly disappointed as it just did not have the tone I heard over two years ago. As soon as I added your profile today I rediscovered "That Tone". I realize that what I’m now hearing is exactly your preferred settings for your Silverback and this explains why it sounds like it did two years ago at the show. It's as if you came over and dialed in your settings on my Rig. Now the fun really begins tweaking your core tone.
One of your best guys. A truly honest and informative episode. Thank you
With the controler and a couple of expression pedals, it still costs nearly $3,500.00
(2700 gdp).
thats my gripe its expensive as heck
Thomas Gibbs By the time you buy an amp, a decent cabinet, effects etc, you may have $3k invested. BUT it may have taken 10yrs to accumulate it all. You add a piece at a time, you carefully research that piece. If you get it home and you don't like it, you return it and get a different one. Diving in head first is scary. The one thing the Kemper lacks is decent effects. Line6 has better effects. For $3500, this thing should have amazing effects.
I managed to afford one working at burger king on minimum wage, if I can afford one then anyone can :)
Jake Hodgson Easy when mommy and daddy are feeding you, paying your phone bill, and buying you video games. Grow up.
Nah man, paying my rent, my phone bill, bought my own car, paying the insurance myself, and funding a band, and paying rent, sure I'm right up against the line financially but I love it and if I can do that on minimum wage then someone with a higher paying job should have no problem, unless you are a parent which is understandable cos that's a whole different game :)
Presumably you can't really change the setting though as it's just a particular response that's been profiled?? Pretty impressive stuff, though not surprising. The tech advances in modelling are seriously impressive bot in amps and in synths. A static profiling is arguably easier.
Still costs a lot though, so I guess it's only really worth it for pro musicians.
No you can - it maps out the EQ spectrum based on the profile, you can tweak it for days
Sure but it is based on the taken profile I assume? One can tweak the EQ on the Kemper which is dependent on the captured profile, but the real amp's EQ range can not be accessed I believe unless one creates multiple profiles of the same amp?
This is more of the issue. The kemper has an eq set which you can change to your hearts content but, it's not the same as changing the eq on an amp. You can however, sit through some of the deep setting in the kemper and get it to work just fine. In summary I like my profiles and a few other profiles from certain guys but, hell kemper is great if you have few amps you want all the time.
no. you profile the amp and can still alter the eq
It's at it's most accurate on the settings you profiled but yes you can change EQ and stuff. One weird feature is being able to give an amp more or less gain than the actual amp is capable of. I profiled a little Hotone Heart Attack as I had one lying about and they just don't have a clean sound, yet the Kemper produced one with the gain turned down, which was interesting. It's on the rig exchange somewhere.
"can we have reverb?"
"No."
After saying the same reverb pedal would be used in all the amps ;)
That’s insane!!!! I literally can’t believe how good that sounds!
God the tones out of that tele kemper comber were sick! I enjoy watching rob shred.
But can it play Fallout 4?
+ThePcGamer shots fired . I like
no but I think it plays the Witcher 3 pretty well
More importantly, does it have mod support.
no, but it'll put a hurting on you in starcraft
I would argue, having both pc and ps4, that a ps4 can´t
I saw a cover band a few weeks ago and they played a variety of guitar tunes from the 80's,90's etc
Their tone was A+... I had to go up and ask the guitarist about his amp as i couldn't see it and thats what most musicians do when their impressed with somebody's tone ..
He was running a Kemper... So many different tones being a cover band that i knew something wasn't right as there isn't an amp in history that could do them all.
Its a sad day for all of us tube/valve amp lovers..................
But also a great day ....... Just in another way
I did the same thing the first time I ran into someone using the Fender Mustang III combo at a gig. Lots and lots of tonal variety that sounded great, at least to me. I found out he was using a combination of his own models/profiles plus some that he downloaded, and an accessory Fender foot switching setup. No other pedals and XLR direct from the amp to the PA. He told me the whole rig cost about $400.00.
Chicken "n' Waffles!! Hahahhahahahaha
I'd imagine it would be impossible to tell much difference in a live gig setting with ambient noise, etc.
Great video!!! Would love to see a video comparing valve amps to the Line 6 Helix.
Chappers save your money and your back and tour with a Kemper. ;-D
Thanks for making it so easy to play along. I kept waiting on the guys to tell you they were screwing with you... That never happened.