Which is Better?? Cheap Guitar & Expensive Amp, or Expensive Guitar & Cheap Amp??
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How about a cheap guitar, cheap amp, cheap pedals, and solid gold picks?
That would be EPIC
Oh my god my whole life has been a lie 😂
Great idea because Andertons do a lot of great cheap pedals like tone city & landlord which I've actually been considering.
expensive guitar.
amps come and go. you'll be plugging into mate's amps or getting another in 6 months.
Just think if you were a kid again with a gold pick, thats funny !
So I’m sitting here with a $250 budget for everything and I’m confused
To be honest I tested an ibanez gio kit a few days ago and it blew my mind. The guitar was really comfortable and light, the neck was butter smooth and the little amp sounded ok(ok cleans, ok crunch, meh high gain). For your budget a kit like that with a well set up on the guitar is really great ;)
Try to get a second Yamaha Pacifica/Ibanez and a good modeling amp if you don't want to spend on a lot of pedals later.
Squier start pack. Seriously, try to find a yamaha second hand
Just look for a knockoff starter pack on amazon. They play really well for ca low price
Secondhand squier or SG400 and secondhand peavey bandit red stripe
I've got a $750 guitar and a $150 amp, and couldn't be happier.
*quietly hides the $800 in pedals*
Do you have any pedals?
+XxXINFUSIONSXxX 😂
+Rick C only 800 bucks in pedals? After the Midi Controller, base pedal board and a wireless receiver there would be hardly any left for actual pedals
+Behemothokun Give me time, mate, bills come first!
+Rick C :)
One of my guitarists, when I was still at school, played a Yamaha Pacifica. She was a skinny welsh girl, family troubles, lived in a caravan on their driveway. Had a fucking attitude, and we loved her. About five or six years ago, maybe more, I'd heard she'd died by suicide. I cannot see a Yamaha Pacifica without immediately seeing her busted jeans, purple tshirt, and chunky beanie. I recently found an old photograph of her, myself, and our bassist, sitting in my living room with our shitty practice amps.
Shit man, im so sorry.
Hard memory to have. But it triggers you when you see a Yamaha Pacifica.
I have a super-expensive tube amp and absolutely NO guitar.
Stand back.
😂😂
Wanna buy a les Paul
Stand back? Are you about to try science?
@@MichaelTheLibertarian He's about to connect the tube amp to his jack.
wanna sell it?
Just a thought Rob, you know how Top Gear did "star in a reasonably priced car", why not do "star on a reasonably priced guitar", where you put really well known guitarists through really cheap gear?
+Passive That's a really good idea
+Passive ALL OF THE YES.
YES!!!!
GREAT IDEA !!!!!!!!!
Yes! There's a video on AC/DC Official's TouTube channel of Angus Young playing through the toy amplifier that comes with the AC/DC Backtracks Deluxe Package, and it sounds rubbish. His guitar probably isn't even reasonably priced!
36:02
**Starts playing in the wrong key**
** Discretely pretends to adjust settings on guitar to hide the mistake**
I've done the same thing many times. All jokes aside, these guys are great musicians and a pleasure to listen to.
LOL
Well I'm not so sure that was to cover a mistake or not but he did actually turn his volume up clearly. If I make a mistake, there's a chance I start smashing that guitar and I look a lot more pissed off than that lol
@@shred5 c h i l l
@@dominickbolieau9328 No need to overreact and get your panties in a bunch, I'm just saying what can be clearly seen.
@@shred5 I was kidding buddy lmao maybe you're the one with your panties in a bunch
I have expensive guitars and amps. I should have spent my money on guitar lessons. :-(
The greatest guitar players in the world never took guitar lessons.
They took drugs. You should have bought some coke 🥳🎶
The Wizard Fantastic words of wisdom
I have coke so I'm half way there 🤪
I'll take your expensive gear if your having a hard time. 😂
I have decent gear and decent gear.It helped me get a headstart on learning.
"If you try to run away with it, we chase after you with a machete"
Gotta love Captain
+MagneticWhistler i laughed so hard at this :D
+Owen Hu You won't be laughing when he comes at you with a machete
+MagneticWhistler so when you're running away with a guitar they come after you, luging around a bigass fender? that doesn't make any sense ;-)
+sandman1201 Shitty joke
+MagneticWhistler Why are you laughing? He's being 100% serious. Have you not seen in the news? 1,000,000 people was murdered by The Captain because they tried to run away with stuff from the store
Shopping for a guitar when you're not a beginner, just broke is so hard.
i agree but if i have a decent amp i can make any guitar sounds playable lol but being broke sucks when u love music/guitars
I know exactly, sometimes it feels like being a drug addict would have been a cheaper thing to be than a musician.
try being a broke lefty guitarist
Adam Szuszkiewicz same
Zainab A learn how to paint, that's what I did, granted I already had two paint guns and a good compressor when I wanted to paint one of mine but spray cans are alright for simple colors
Rig Wars for under £300.
1 guitar
1 amp
1 pedal
Points for the cheaper rig, best sound and diversity of sound (second hand allowed)
That's a really good idea
no second hand ;_;
+willcant quickscope Never secondhand for these things. It's RNG. Chappers could get a banged up $2000 les paul for $100 because it has chunks out of the body, but still plays fine, and El Capitain is stuck with a $100 Jackson Dinkey thing with a missing tuning peg and an action 4 inches high.
+willcant quickscope YAAAAAAASSS
+willcant quickscope Sounds like LinusTechTips Scrapyard Wars ;)
"A limited budget"
"£1000?"
*laughs in poor*
exactly what i did xd i m looking to buy a guitar from a friend for like 40$ and struggle to get 200$ for an amp
I'm just gonna buy a guitar+amp kit for 104€
**haha money printer go brr**
@@piranhasoundsystem Go to gear4music and check out an amp called the Vox Pathfinder 10 (make sure you buy the right one because there's one for bass and one for electric).
Er.....a £1000?..........really?....
having owned guitars ranging from $300, to $3000, I can honestly say, that the "middle of the road" range is the best value for the money, and will play well, overall. Spend the money on your amp. The tone of your instrument will not shine through accurately, if your amp is a pile of crap.
+Robbie Timms And how does your VIP compare to some $3000 guitars? Nice build by the way on the forum. ;)
Rogue Jellybean Haha, thanks man. That VIP plays better than my Gibsons, by far. Definitely going to be acquiring more Warmoths in the future!
+Robbie Timms Yup. Depending on what "middle of the road" is. I think the sweet spot for a new guitar is between $725 and maybe $1,300. Beyond that you're paying for binding and prettier wood. For a new amp, $650 to $1,200 seems good.
Yeah, for me, if I'm looking for "middle of the road", I tend to look at Schecter's offerings. they always have pretty good prices, for what you get. I tend to spend a bit more on amps, but I will say that my Orange Dark Terror is one of my favourite amps ever.
+Robbie Timms my issue is modern imports try too hard to give you a guitar that looks great on paper versus a guitar that truly IS great for the money. My jackson rr3 with a bolt on neck, rosewood board and no binding poops all over the newer jackson rrtmg i had a year ago. I hate the modern guitar market. I'd rather go warmoth or custom shop. Gear is an investment.
I've got an air guitar and an air amp
They sound perfect
Andy Chamberlain Music This comment has a large lack of upvotes
I've used that exact rig before. A little on the quiet side. People kinda look at you funny but overall it's a good bang for the buck rig.
My air guitar won’t stay in tune, needs a set up, anyone know of a good air guitar tech?
I have exactly the same setup and can make it sound EXACTLY the same as whatever band I’m playing along with! Brilliant!
What pedal u using?
Whoever edited this video, have a cookie. You deserve it.
Ikr, I'd like to see their episodes on like a regular basis. Like a tv show or something. These guys are fun!
What about the sound levels, there are traps in the video for your eardrum.
Ikr, these guys are fun
@@onebreh this video is the dark souls of youtube music videos
I couldn't decide so i ended up with a trumpet.
i think you did something wrong, not sure what exactly
I have had good guitars and not-so-good guitars, and I can safely say that good guitars do not need to have an expensive price tag.
demonic alien cat princess well said.
William Woche
And one of my guitars is older than me.
demonic alien cat princess agreed, all my guitars except for 2 have been used, (in order) Epiphpne LesPaul limmited edition (ebay, still have cause first.. not my favs but ok), rg370dx (ebay.. got stolen), *new* ibanez gio (trying to replace stolen rg... way to expensive and absolute crap), 89 Fender Squier HMIII *japan* (bought used locally for 300$ in perfect cond minus the trem bar missing... best sounding guitar ever, played great.. super rare. had to sell for rent), *new* Ibanez rg350dxz $650 on sale for $499 (grear guitar though l&m failed to set it up.. neck has a minor back bow, pickups could sound better... different from the 370dx.. other than that its on point)
not Squier by Fender... a Fender Squier.. i hate having to explain that..
RobTapps88
I have a pair of Fender Squier Acoustics. Also got my mandolin back after a few years of not seeing it (no, it didn't get stolen, as it was broken and the person that was fixing it couldn't do it immediately). Some of them also have stickers on (which I put there), and I almost got myself a Les Paul last week (but decided against it in the end).
i think it's better to buy an expensive guitar first, because you have more fun playing it and that motivates you to get better.
Daniel Hochpöchler yeah i first started thinking if you have an amp that the the EQ knobs worked like the tone knobs on the guitar only working on the ends only then its better to get a more high end amp but at the same time I have this first act like guitar and a Ibanez gio gx130 reverse headstock (not sure if it's the right model) and I was trying to play the tapping in eruption and I played alot better on my Ibanez better then the first act looking like guitar
Wall, that's in case you're a beginner. There's also a good amount of people that get really comfortable with their first guitar and probably want an upgrade with their amp.
But I get it though. First you need motivation and improve your skills. Then you can get an expensive amp
Wolf Predator: both, one can't exist without the other. unless you buy an acoustic guitar which you don't need an amp for because it produces clean sounds on it own, although there are acoustic guitars that you can plug into an amp, but those are only necessary if your playing in front of a gig. if your only playing fun at home like i do, then an acoustic guitar will do just fine. if however your looking to buy an electric guitar, then you need an amp. it doesn't have to be an expensive amp, but for an electric guitar the amp is the second most important thing your gonna buy. just like on a computer, the CPU is the most important thing your gonna buy. so even if your gamer and play guitar in your spare time, the CPU is still most important piece in your computer. now you might say what about a cheap CPU but with a more expensive graphics card, and i would say not to do that. to me if your only willing spend $100 bucks on a Dual Core CPU, then you have no business buying a $400 dollar graphics card. so what happens when you spend $200 dollars on a CPU and you also buy an Nvidia or Radeon graphics card with a similar price and what happens, you get a nice balance. the graphics card won't have to work as hard, and the CPU won't feel like it's bottlenecking. so it works the same way with an electric guitar and a amp. i have one acoustic guitar, and i have two electric guitars. my first guitar was a Yamaha Pacifica. i got that guitar in 2005 when i was about 13, and i still have that guitar today. the amp i picked out wasn't cheap, but it wasn't $500 dollars expensive. it was a Fender amp for about $250 dollars, but it was only like 30 watts, which is much better than the 15 watt cheap amps they sell out there. my parents didn't mind me practicing, but my amp was a little too loud at night even for just clean at low volume, so the following year my dad got me this Fender acoustic guitar for $299 around Christmas time. around 2010 the year i graduated is when i bought a second guitar, which was a Gibson Les Paul Studio. similar to the one Lee showed in the video, but mine was white with some black highlights here and there.
Daniel Hochpöchler quick the opposite for me. I got a cheap one(and still do) and use that to practice on. But I got a pretty expensive amp and that's way better sound. Sooner or later I'll be getting a better guitar tho.
Jesus. Rob's hair looks roughly 5,000 times better now than it did long.
It always looks good, what are you talking about?
+~Delevity~ *In Dr. Evil voice*: Riiiiiiiiight.....
wgb01001 In all honesty, I prefered Chappers with the dreadlocks.
nah looks like he's balding
keep that mess short.....roaches were living in DAT long stuff
If you had £1000 youd spend £500 on a guitar and £500 on an amp. Simple
I agree, balance is a paramount, myself however went captain’s way... But for home use is fine, $1000 Fender strat and $350 Laney amp,
£1000 for guitar ,and free plugins amp sims
If I bought a 750 pound amp, I wouldn't be able to pick it up!
This is a joke right? If not Pounds is their money
+WALKING REGULAR This is a joke right? If not, puns are a form of word play involving a word with two meanings.
That's what I was saying. If it was a joke fine, but if not then I was telling the guy so he'd know
+WALKING REGULAR
It's so painfully obvious that it's a joke that you look silly for trying to correct him.
+Armando Araujo I think he needed to make it clearer if he was joking, his comment has caused serious confusion.
Greetings from a native Houstonian (Texas). I've been watching you guys for years, but never commented. I'm chilling at home right now on some amazing pain killers (and a few beers for good measure) that I got for getting a massively messed up tooth pulled today. I just realized that I watch you 2 more regularly than I do the TV, Netflix, Amazon or anything else. You have somehow become more like family... I think I actually love you 2 like the witty, musical brothers I've never had (No... I'm not a strange/weird dude). I hope you guys stay around for a long time.
Tone Seeker careful about mixing those painkillers and beers, it increases the chance of overdose, be safe and get well! Also while your buzzed up I'd recommend a good jam session for you, it'll sound nuts :)
Tone Seeker check out this one. made in Austin
I'm a new englander I'm from ct
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Tone Seeker 112 likes. 112 cab
im so broke that i could only buy the cheap guitar and the cheap amp lol
Francis Miguel So do I, but that's not going to stop me from playing my favourite songs!
Francis Miguel Buy a distortion pedal. It'll all sound awesome no matter how crappy your guitar or amp.
Francis Miguel
I'm a poor acoustic peasant
i could barely buy that XD
A Rabid Fox I'm so sorry to hear that. oh wait I'm a broke ass peasant too
this video could also be titled "both sound fine, but pick whether you'd rather have people make fun of your guitar or your amp" lol
...wait until they've finished laughing, play for a minute and then watch 'em cry. ;>
@BIMSY 657 but they still look shit though.
@@StevePayne76 They still look cooler than a strat
or you could go 50/50 and get a decent guitar with a decent amp
Any true guitarists knows it’s the player not the guitar that matters. Besides most guitars nowadays are built very well and sound good.
I miss these top gear like episodes were they do challenges with a budget
They still do them but on the main channel with Matt and Rabea.
I miss top gear ;--;
+Tink 666 I feel you
I think the result of Jeremy's punch was a good result, one Top Gear becomes two Top Gear
Meh, I don't think Top Gear will be any good with the new presenters but I could be completely wrong... Although, Jeremy, James and Richard's new show sounds like it'll be really good so it might have been a good result lol
Yeah this is a no-brainer. Gotta go with the better amp, since "cheap" guitars these days are built pretty well.
agreed.
Plus you can just change pickups and put in a bone nut good tuners and sound as good as any expensive guitar if you have a really good amp.
very true there are so many options for good quality budget guitars now yet budget amps especially for gigging just are a big fat no!
@Nintariz in that case if you only had a grand like they did in the vid then you would prob need to go 50/50 because an amp less than 500 prob not gonna be great for gigging. and if you playing punk you just need good gain on your amp so you can for go pedals in that case. but that said there are so many choices now for budget guitars epiphone, squire, harley benton all of which will last a long time
@Nintariz you say that but robben ford and jeff healy played epiphone and squire. i have my several thousand pound guitars but i do also still enjoy my squire bullet. budget guitar have come a long way in the past few years. not just shitty encores any more. and a cpl years back epiphone had better quality control than gibson lol
Totally agree
I would weigh in and say that in my experience, an expensive guitar makes it easier to learn, easier to move your fingers around, easier to fret and barre, so you spend more time actually learning to play rather than just learning to place your fingers, which comes naturally as you learn anyway.
So if we're coming from the beginner angle, an expensive guitar would mean you can learn and progress much faster from the start, and since you're learning, you're not going to be gigging for a while anyway. Then once you feel you're gig ready and start looking for a band, you've had long enough to put some money aside to finally get a better amp for the sound.
That's my 2 cent anyway :)
I agree, If you're begining you don't even know how to set up an amp and you´re looking for "that" guitar that looks like you want.
Im not sure. I like the idea of getting better equipment as you get better.....whatever the activity may be. You know that feeling when you see someone thats a bit rubbish but has really expensive kit? The fat bloke on the tour de france racing bike......the teenage girl in the 911.....the skier with the helmet and expensive clothes, snowplowing down an easy run.....i could go on all day but you get my point......having said all that, if youre at home on your own....do what you like !
i think you mean 2 pennies lol
@@_ikako_ I must admit, as a Brit, using the phrase "2 cent" does bug me a bit. Haha!
not to mention that cheap amps are much much muuuuuch better now than they were when this was filmed...
7:21 "you know guitar shopping is a lot more expensive than I imagined - despite the fact that I do this all the time" every guitarist ever
"I don't know where things are in my own shop"
proceeds to take a guitar and hang another one in its place
I WAS SAT IN THE BASS ROOM @13:32 .... I'M FAMOUS!!
Was it Blink 182's carousel from 13:15? :)
+Jonasz Gubera Yup!! I hear it
lol was sat here just thinking, that bass playing sounds sweet
Ha ha... I'm a rubbish bassist who only knows three songs! :D
Nice blink
The problem for a lot of beginners is that they COULD save lot's of money and buy good quality second hand gear, but they don't really have the knowledge yet to do that safely because they don't know what something is worth and don't know how to check for damages and problems.
for about the first 3 months into my guitar playing I was convinced that the amp with the most knobs was the best amp
+Jamie MacMillan and I was convinced that the guitar with the most pickups was the best, so I agree with this
tthat's a real problem at the begining
Ban Quiroz I was pretty similar tbh for some reason I was convinced HSH was the best pickup configuration for some reason and my current guitar is HSH so I have no evidence to say I believe otherwise hahaha but now I probably lean towards HH for simplicity
+Maafa 1619 All true man, I teach guitar and most beginners I teach are more focused on getting a shiny new guitar and amp than actually sitting and practicing for hours/months/years.
Gonk it's all because of that consumer market shit. My dad's on a high ass salary and as a result I'm a spoilt brat meaning I need new shit to stay motivated with my playing which is bad although I'm listening to as much music as I can to get real inspiration. I think if I started playing younger it would help but around ten once I got obsessed with collecting shit, being able to fully appreciate what I have was difficult which is shit for me
I think having a guitar that you're comfortable playing is the most important. Ultimately it's the amp and pedals that really change the tone.
no, the pick ups are real important.more than the amp even.
I feel that the general feel of the guitar is the most important part. ive played some guitars that just feel like crap and were not fun to play even though they had good pickups. for me the neck and frets are most important. @@christineblack4654
@@christineblack4654 nope - try playing with an expensive guitar on one of those supermarket-bundle-amps that comes with guitars.
You can do whatever you want, it will sound like crap and kid will stop playing.
But there are so many guitars that are under 200€ and really play and sound well - with a good amp, the kids will stay playing.
I think the best bet with a budget of £1,000 is to go about half and half. A good mid range mexican fender or epiphone and a nice bassbreaker or blues junior valve amp.
Or a custom shop strat with a old brownface fender
My trusty Fender blacktop tele mexican and used blackstar ht20 has served me well for the past 5 years. Yes I have guitars that are 5x the price but they definitely arent 5x as good!
+NXN They should have included Bea to go 50:50. That would have been great, cause I totally agree with you!
+NXN PRS SE Zach Myers in vintage sunburst 529 pounds. Egnater Tweaker 15w 1x12 429 pounds. Mooer Ana Echo Analogue Echo Delay Pedal 42 pounds. That would be a 1,000 pound gigging rig.
+NXN or an epiphone les paul standard with a 500 pound amp + pickup swap..
What we learn today is:
If you play guitar like these two bastard, it doesn't matter if you have an expensive gear or not.
Either you play it well, or you don't. Great Tone is a matter of perspective.
And holy christ this are some cheap guitars. I mean, 750 for a Gibson Tribute. This is like 3/4 of an average monthly payment in US.
+Giovannii Gomes That Gibson is $900 in the US.
$2000 in Brazil
Wait what!? Jesus, I think it's cheaper to fly to the States, buy a guitar and fly back.
and it's two grand because the rate Dolar X Real is absurd due to the crisis here.
The average wage here is like, US$200 now. So yeah, Gibson, Fender, Ibanez Prestige, ESP Custom and stuff costs about the same as a car
I love those post-production sound effects.
It always gets me when the cup "breaks". I looked up like "wtf?!" and then realized it was post.
exactly ! (grabbing the neck)
Pssst... hey, kid... wanna save 40 minutes?
The answer is expensive amp and cheap guitar. You're welcome.
Brendan Downes Thank you so much!
I'm just glad there was an answer .. if the answer was "it depends" I would've cried
Pssst... Hey, scary stranger... Thanks!
Some heroes does not wear a cape, you are one of those.
Lmao
My favorite is expensive amp and expensive guitar.
of course! But a nice guitar will motivate you to practice more and if you live in an apartment you really cannot use an expensive amp anyways. Then get nice amp.
Renaissance Man I had a cheap ass peavey I got from a pawn shop that sounded like shit, I then got a fender champion, which is still a budget amp, but the better amp motivated me to play and practice more.
@@GuitarsAndSynths it wont motivate you much if you plug a nice guitar into a cheap amp. I almost quit playing having 2 les pauls, and cheap amps, then i got a marshall. now THAT motivated me, so i got an '18 explorer elite now too. (this is an English Marshall tho). The better the guitar, the more you need tubes. solid state will never please you unless you have a cheap guitar.
It doesn't matter to me because I can make both sound cheap af.
I had a REALLY cheap Peavey amp I swear it was like 5 watts in a 3 inch speaker. When I finally got my 15w fender, it was amazing. It really did motivate me to play.
Now I understand that neither of you play the instrument, buuuuuuuut I'm sure I'm not alone in wanting a Chappers and The Captain bass (rig?) challenge? It would be very interesting seeing what non-bassists would put together, and much more interesting seeing you play. We've only seen Rob on a fretless acoustic bass, and Lee always refuses when he's doing videos with Nathan.
+Lord Tarkenton I actually do play a bit of bass in a Epiphone video with Nathan thats due out soon. But I'm not very good, so I don't think you'll learn much from me!
CaptAnderton Haha well I'm certainly looking forward to that then! I'll just keep my fingers crossed for Dave teaching Rob some bass.
+CaptAnderton The main thing is taking part! :p
+CaptAnderton Hey, C10, how about a video on a budget taking advantage of any special offers, etc the shop has? Plus you get to show off Anderton's promos :) I'd be interested in you guys' take on trading off what you want compared to what there is.
+CaptAnderton your guitar, however has gotten really very good! I'm digging the blues
Don't be that guy on Craigslist who's selling a $1,000 Gibson Les Paul with a $20 Marshall MG FX. You all know that guy. He spells most of the words wrong and doesn't list any contact info but it goes something along the lines of "me buy pretty guitar but no want play. make good offer."
Haaaaaaa
and its listed as "Nice Gibson guitar with marshall amp"
Tyer Estes XD
Lmao
pfffft... a thousand dollars is cheap for a Gibson, they're ridiculously overpriced these days.
I had cheap guitars and just couldn't seem to play anything. Then i bought a gibson les paul and was instantly a rock star. I'm headed to hollywood. Where ever that is.
For bedroom/youtube warriors:
400quid for a multi-effects unit with good cabinet sims (anything G5n and above)
400quid for an ibanez s / good second hand guitar / something similar ,
200quid for monitor speakers/good headphones.
Sorted for years and years to come.
thats exactly what i have :3
^ this man* gets it!
*apologizing in case you're a lady.
that is a good way to go strictly for jamming in your room, but once you start building up a collection of high end pedals with a really nice tube amp nothing else can really compare. Use to love those multi effects when I first started playing, but now I wouldn't use one outside of practicing alone.
What about cheap guitar and expensive pick...
Lol w h a t
Bullet strat with a dragon heart pick?
😂
I guess the pick could break the strings.
leo liuwa im pretty sure that he meant pickup
This dude Rob is absolutely mental. Not only an amazing guitarist but I love his personality. Looks like such a great guy to have as a friend.
OK NOW SWITCH GUITARS!!!! Would have been cool to hear each guitar on the other amp!
Just proves that the more gain you add, the less of the guitars natural tone you'll hear.
I think the winner is Lee's les paul and the Fender Bassbreaker ;)
+JoeyRockerTV If he had the extra like 20 quid for the bassbreaker this contest is over.
Yes :P
+JoeyRockerTV The les paul's bridge pickup squealed like crazy with higher gain/volume. Not sure why so many les pauls have this problem. I've encountered many that do. Maybe there's some tweak you can do to fix the squeal, but if not, then it needs a pickup swap. And for a guitar already many hundreds of dollars more expensive than the Yamaha, this is unacceptable. The Yamaha already has a great bridge pickup sound. All you'd really have to do is swap the neck pickup, sand the frets a little, and swap the nut to get an EXCELLENT combo. Based on these factors, Rob's setup is definitely the winner. The damn thing even has a coil tap. If Rob takes out the middle single coil, there's even room to put the bridge pickup in parallel within the wiring.
+Hunter Baker Gibson do a terrible job with shielding their pickups and cavities these days, even on their Standard models. I know the SG especially has had a LOT of complaints from people who spent $1,000 on and SG and got terrible hums and squeals.
+Hunter Baker yes there is a tweak; it's called wax potting the pickup. Something all decent pickup makers do now, except for chinese knock-offs. Kinda tells you how low Gibson has sunken.
The answer is so obvious, a quality amp will carry you very far even with a cheap guitar. That being said a super expensive guitar wont sound as good as its worth with a low quality amp. A 1000 dollar guitar wont sound like a 1000 dollar guitar on a 100 dollar amp
How true been down that avenue
Heard of bias m8 cost 60 bucks
Clam hit the nail on the head. Expensive guitars are great, but in keeping with the topic at hand, a cheap guitar with better amp/pedals far outweighs the benefits of a spendier guitar and cheap sound.
Yeah lol the practical way to go is expensive amp, which is fun..
But a cheap guitar with a shit setup will hinder your playing abilities and makes it harder to play.
and then there's me, with a 90$ guitar using the stock fl studio amp rig
Yo man, Hardcore on FL bops ✨
@@pablito5927 who has🤣
@@pablito5927 get reaper, it is well worth the 60$
bro get GuitarRig player from Native instruments. You can use it in demo mode for like 30 minutes and it sounds great
I’m using a 90$ epiphone les Paul style guitar and a 30 dollar crate amp.
heh i forgot i was watching this on 150% speed; was super impressed at the speed.
Duh
have you tried looking at it slow mo like 0.5 its hilarious
How do you watch in different speeds
+Cade Whitmore You can't change the speed ona phone
oh tought you where on PC
Expensive amp and cheap guitar wins
Keri Mayfield ok
thanks
No you mean the guitarist with more skills wins
@@carloswendel.7 there's no such thing as a cheap tube amp, so that's why they usually sound "better". There are some really nice high end solid states that more than hold their own against tube amps in their price range. But that all depends on the kind of tone your chasing, of course.
When you have a good guitar you can play in live gigs and sound amazing tho
Guitars are very simple technology. It's pretty easy to find an affordable guitar that's well-made. Amplifiers, on the other hand, are much more complex. It's more difficult to find a good amp that's inexpensive. Plus, most of your overall tone comes from your amp and speakers anyway, so it makes sense to spend more money on those things and less on the guitar.
Kinda agree with this - maybe not that it's so simple, but that it's all in the math(s). In the 50's and 60's when things were cut and shaped by hand, it was really important. Now you can 3D model a classic guitar and turn them out by the 100's using a CNC machine. That's why one of my favorite things is as Chappers talked about at the beginning. Find a cheap guitar that sets up well, like a used PRS SE, Squier or Epiphone for a little money - something that intonates and that you can get the fret buzz out with good low action, enjoy it for a while and then drop some really nice pickups into it and get so much more for your money. I drool over a Dragon, and spent nearly $2000 on a PRS Custom 24, but I have almost as much fun playing a guitar that I built myself for $150 with P90's. My latest project is dropping a Seymour Duncan humbucker sized p90 into the old Epiphone Les Paul Goth that I learned on 10 years ago. I loved it and kept it, but it stopped making it into the rotation because the others were better and/or more fun. Now for $90 and some time with a soldering iron, I think it's going to see a lot more use again.
This is true today, but back in the early 80s when I started playing you would be better off with an expensive guitar because cheap guitars were borderline unplayable.
I've been back into playing now for about 5 years. Almost every guitar I've owned since.... I've bought because of reviews you guys did. I only have a few videos on my channel but I'm slowly improving. Thank you all for your gear demos!
Rob “I’d like head”
So would i rob
So yeah , i should get a pacifica and that cube.😂😂😂😂
Same fam, same
As soon as he said that I started comment scrolling to find this
Was that an offer to Rob?
I'd always go the way of a better guitar over an expensive amp. You can always upgrade to a better amp in the future. A good guitar also holds it value or even gains value over time.
Yep... I had about $600 playing metal. So I just went with an Ibanez Iron Label.... You can literally get a pedal board and a huge speaker... and you are set
the era of guitars gaining value ended in the 80s
Not necessarily true... there are still some limited run guitars that gain in value over time. Some of the Fender Pawn Shop stuff, for instance, is already going for more on eBay used than they originally listed for. I have a Marauder that I paid $300 for new and I just saw one go on Kijiji for 450 really quickly. I also have an Excelsior Pro amp and I've had people offer me nearly TWICE what I paid for it new just 4 years ago.
In the 70s you could get a 60s for cheep now 90s are kind of cheep soooooo.....buy now....that 60s strat is big bucks,,,,at one time the 70s starts and Gibsons no one would have now hard to find...lol
i totally disagree for so many reasons. but hey, we can still be friends.
Where does Matt Bellamy get time to make amazing albums with Muse AND review guitars with Ricky Gervais? Amazing
Awesome
Ha.
Can we just appreciate that little lick from 22:34 - 22:40? I had this playing in the background while getting work done on a project, and that immediately caught my ear so much I replayed it at least 15 times XD
One of dorje's songs isn't it?
@@psygodnp Its Catalyst :P
£1000 (£250/£750) seems like quite a lot still: I'd love to see this same thing for a true beginner with perhaps £150 for each component...
I know, what beginner spends 750 on an amp?
Ikr? What they consider as a "cheap amp" is still three times more expensive than mine.
Maybe they're talking about a beginner gig rig.
Possibly, but there are other videos on the channel that are "How to gig for £1000" kind of things, and Lee says "I even think I could gig with this" - which makes it sound like that wasn't the original intention and it was more a "first proper setup" thing.
Perhaps not a full blown newbie rig, but... yeah, it just seems a lot. Half or even 2/3 of the budget would make far more sense I feel. I get that they don't want to go budget, but it doesn't seem like they really compromised anywhere, and I feel like this video would make far more sense as a "You have to actually compromise somewhere: so if you can buy a mid range Amp OR Guitar and a compromised version of the other, which gets you the end result?" approach...
they compromised on not having a pedel with the les, and not having the best pick up on the 112v. but i get your point
Sound is of course really, really important, but the feel in my hands of a well built instrument that makes me want to play it is priceless
I know I’m 2 years late, but I would like to see this same title but with the funds dropped to like $500-600. I don’t know too many 13 year olds wanting to play guitar spending a grand. I bought a squire Stratocaster and i think a peavey amp of some kid for less than $200
very true, I started with an epiphone studio and a fender frontman, and even that was a lot more than most kids I know
If you can buy used you can get a sick rig for that price
A used good quality guitar can easily be had for under 300. I've seen mexican strats PRS, Ibanez, danelectro, epiphones all for under 300.00.
And you can get a used blackstar, fenders blues Jr, bugera or Marshall valvetronic combo. Hell even a used vox for under 3-400.
So with 500-600 you can get a gig ready setup easily.
3star2nr unless you’re a lefty, the used market isn’t the best.
Not totally sure, but I think the guy from know your gear did exactly what you are asking for
Buddy Foster Boss Katana 50, $230, and a mexi-strat! You can get some as long as $400
Rob plays with the exact style i want to achieve. so fluid and powerful!
Price means absolutely nothing.
I have a $199 strat that infinitely slays my $2,640 strat in both tone and playability.
Stays in tune better, and the neck has been straight as an arrow for over 20 years.
+Wak Job get that nice Strat properly set up man
+Jon Rahi lol right
Oh it's setup properly alright.
Guitars and amps are individual creations.
You either get a "good one" or you don't.
Play 20 Les Pauls or Marshall 2203's of example, one or two will stick out far above the rest.
I tell this to kids all the time.
Unfortunately most people buy guitars with their eyes ( bling factor, logo on the headstock ) than ears.
Big time! Always gives me a chuckle.
Glad I'm over all that stuff. Trust your ears.
If it sounds good, it's good. End of story.
The amp makes the sounds. So always go with the expensive amp and a cheap guitar. It's what my very first guitar teacher told me.
And I have to say. His advice was golden.
Not to mention, cheap guitars these days are incredibly well built. I've held some brand new Ibanez gios lately and was blown away by the quality!
750 pound guitar? That's a heavy guitar.
For a guitar that heavy, they're gonna have to build a club around it!
well us americans we gotta give it to the brits cause its their language but man some of it is so different
Haha that's gonna be hard to play
I knew Les Pauls were heavy but dang.
That would be £750 gbp not 750lbs
Really cheap sounding amps can be demotivating for a beginner. A bonus of starting with a cheap guitar is gaining experience setting it up yourself without fear. This is my favorite Anderton's video(the editing is just unbelievably brilliant). I was budgeting $300ish for my beginner rig and was trying to decide on what to buy. After seeing this comparison I decided on a Squier Strat Affinity ($50 used at a pawn shop) and a nice Blackstar HT5 tube amp with reverb ($250 used on Craig's List w/Celestion speaker upgrade). The Squier needed the frets dressed and I replaced the plastic nut with bone and I hard-tailed the tremelo. The Blackstar sounded amazing from the moment I plugged it into the wall! This combo has been great for my first year or two. Eventually, I will resell the Affinity and move up to a nice second-hand American Strat but I'll be able to keep playing that great amp expanding it's sound with pedal effects. There are literally tons and tons of gear on the second-hand market that rock dads bought and never played! Most of it is in the mid-level price range too.
should have had Rabea doing £500 for a guitar and amp and go in the middle!
That's actually a great idea, have Chappers and the cap'n do like 30/70 and have Bea go 50/50 and see what pays off the best
+Mikkel Scott - Guttural Slug/Septic Congestion Bea wins. He is a vastly better guitarist. He could make playing a rubber band hooked up to a transistor radio sound like seven shades of awesome.
+Andrew Watson , yes Andertons why did you not do this?
Captain, have you ever seen something in your store that you didn't like, while you were filming, waited and ripped an employee a new one?
That's a good question.
+Hank Hill Thank Ya Hank, that means a lot coming from you!
Damn it Bobby!
+Hank Hill Fuck Propane! Charcoal is better
+WALKING REGULAR It's Propain! lol
+jim leiss 'Propain' that used to be a killer band, I saw em open up for Testament back in the mid-1990s.
No one ever gets a guitar and amp at same time unless your a first time player who gets a cheap guitar/amp combo for Xmas. You save up for a good guitar you can afford, then later you buy your dream amp. You can practice with a cheap amp or without an amp.
Especially in the recent years, there are so many decent ampsims around, but indeed then you do need an audio interface and some decent speakers.
Well, tomorrow I'm buying my first gibson, and I still have my super shitty amp from the pack, so I will expend 90€ more on a second hand vox vt20x.
i actually bought my first amp before i bought my first guitar lol
i was going to buy a fender american pro 2 telecaster and play it through my old fender frontman 15g amp that came with a squier strat but opted for a MIM telecaster and new boss Katana amp instead so your statement is false.
@@TRUE_GR1T
It that's your dream amp, you are one of the exceptions
I’m a great Beatles fan and I recently bought a Gretsch guitar and a Vox amp with a combined price of over 2000 dollars... Yeez these two beasts together it’s freakin’ amazing. Even with a budget of 2k you can sound like whoever you want! It’s like the Beatles are back together and perform in my bedroom every day!
2000 is an absolutely massive budget to most people
I don't care what challenge it is...I just love when they walkthrough the store!
That jam at the end was unbelievable!
two pro's
+Dirk Bogan Anyone else having a song on a tip of their tongue that sounds similar? Something by Pink Floyd maybe? It's driving me nuts
+Leuff Oh figured it out. "Coming back to life" by Pink Floyd :D
+Leuff The simple chordal accompaniment at the end sounded like Porcupine Tree's "The Rest Will Flow".
+Dirk Bogan it started off as skid row XD
17:16 As soon as Captain Lee started playing, I gotta say, I was a little blown away that nice, round tone is actually coming out of the Roland Cube.
"I'll have a 750 pound guitar"
*me, an American "WUT"*
That'd be great for some "heavy" metal.
Lol yeah I had to look it up to see what we were talking about 🤣
That would be the Les Paul range...
easy choice: Les Paul
Imagine the sustain
Initially, I thought that Rob would win it handily. But listening to the Cube, Cap was able to get some good toneage out of it, which was pretty surprising for a solid-state amp!
+Andy San I work in a store that sells Cube amps, and I continue to be amazed at how good they can sound in the right hands. I'm actually considering buying one to use as a second amp for stero effects.
I've found there is a LOT of value that is overlooked by the majority in the middle of the road amps and guitars
Gold Panda - For sure!!
+Andy San we're not in the 60's anymore nobody needs tubes for good tone
+Hoshi Hearts - Especially with the Radial stuff, that's true!
It's the player. In a blindfold test, 90% of us would say the Cube was a tube amp. And the same % would say the Yamaha was a high dollar guitar. Great players both. Tone is in your underpants.
It's easier to tell irl
Yeah, but they know which guy is playing the tube amp, so it sounds different to them, and therefore it's better.
I've gigged a few times with a mic'd MicroCube and it sounded GREAT through the PA. I couldn't switch sounds quickly, but whatever I dialed in sounded great.
Think I would have made the split closer to $700/300... Includes lots more guitars.
+Chris Castle +1
The 70/30 split would get Anderton into a 007 Bassbreaker which might have made it a much tighter competition.
I absolutely love Chappers' passion for the sounds of the guitars and amps. Lee just a legend as always
Can you do a beginners guide to cabs and heads?
+Matthew Lane this would be great
Or even combos. II'd like a crash course on amp history, myself. That could even serve as an Andertons ad, so... make it!
+Matthew Lane Heres a simple guide beginners, if your on a budget, Dont look at Marshalls, or even Mesas
+Matthew Lane That'd be an awesome idea.
I'm on it :-)
I really liked the driven tone of that Cube amp.
Sounds like Robs guitar and Lees amp would be a solid buy for someone on half the budget. Great video, thank you.
I love this kind of content so much. Please bring it back in 2021.
I liked the Les Paul more. And now you've got me wanting to buy a Bassbreaker. It will ship with a divorce.
+Mox_au It's worth it
Hey, the bonus divorce should be the deal maker.
+Gerff not if you seen my mrs...you'd shit yourself son
+Gerff Haha!
Mox_au
Don't have to be married to fuck em...Just have to be good enough at what you do to keep them coming back a couple of times a week, then leaving in the morning.
After watching this a couple of times and thinking about it I think for me buying an expensive guitar you just want to pick up and play is the better than an incredible amp. Give me a Fender Strat or a Gibson sg/Lp and a Blackstar HT1R and a cab or a fender super champ (which is amazing amp) over a squire infinity or a epiphone les Paul special and an expensive amp. The thing is a nice guitar will keep you playing where as a cheap one won't. You want a guitar you pick up every time you look at it... (opinion)
(I learnt on a knock off les paul a friend let me borrow and a roland cube. I then bought a fender American special strat and a fender super champ XD amp. If I stayed with the knock off les paul I probably wouldn't have continued.)
+Daniel Logan (dejct) I would tend to agree somewhat. Though I think a mid-range guitar, like Epiphone or a Mexican Strat/Tele can be very productive and enjoyable. I have a Epiphone Les Paul Custom with an added Bigsby that is fantastic....
If you were on a certain set budget, and had to buy a guitar and amp for around $1,000, I'd say a ratio of 60/40 would be pretty good. That's a $600 guitar and a $400 amp. You can get a pretty decent, great playing guitar for that price and a nice-sounding amp. No need for one of the components to be dirt cheap.
Yeah, but they were going in pounds, so it'd be more like $1200 then, and adjusted for inflation it might be $1300 today. For that price, a decent rig is almost impossible to avoid if you know much at all about guitars.
Just picked me up a seafoam mustang for $200 and a 60watt $200 flextone Line 6 amp and a $150 looper pedal yesterday and fell in love with it. Now I have something to play other then my acoustic
I have a Gibson 2014 SGJ, and it's probably one of the best guitars for around $500 U.S. The tuners are high quality, the pups are something you'd find on a $1500 guitar, and the body has a beautiful cherry satin finish. Of course neck dive is still totally a thing, but it's wonderful. I just need to replace my Fender Mustang amp, because it's OK, but not great. Bugera has a 55 watt tube combo for $500 and most reviewers give it 5 stars. So it's between that and the Marshall DSL 40C.
Ask Ketchum i'm in almost the same boat, haha. I have a 2013 LPJ and a custom shop '62 strat, and I'm getting rid of my Fender Mustang for the DSL 40c
***** Well all I said is just going down the shithole. lol. I'm not getting a new amp because I've decided I'm gonna commit to building a 59' Les Paul by hand from scratch. Using all the period correct materials and Pearly Gates pups. All in all it'll cost me $1000 since I know a guy who owns a wood working shop so I can borrow his clamps and planes. I just need to get a few things like a fretboard radius sander and I'll be good to go. So wish me luck
Ask Ketchum I have the 2014 SGJ too and I'm using a Line 6 Spider IV 15, which is a great amp for the money! But now I'm going to buy the Bassbreaker 15 as my first tube amp and I think the sound will be absolutely gorgeous! Maybe I can afford a Fender Classic 50s Strat too, that would be the dream! :) But back to the SGJ: a great guitar that i'm in love with especially in this satin cherry finish!
Lol they do this and then there is just me 2225$ Gibson les Paul classic and a 125$ fender mustang 2 😂😂😂
Some serious action there from Chappers on the Pacifica, Yamaha are often underrated. some real nice stuff. It's a great show you guys put on. Absolute classic moment is at 23:44. Have to add that Lee's stuff on the LP was bloody good, man he's improved!
i love how rob chose my guitar, and lee chose the amp i have XD
Coming from a person who plays with a cheap guitar and without an amp, i can say it doesnt matter. If you practice you will improve
1k budget for a beginner... wow OK.
I had £129 for a encore and BB blaster from argos haha.
I like the bass player in the background playing carousel by Blink 182
I NOTICED THAT TOO lol
I was scanning the comments trying to see if anyone else had heard that. XD
I did the exact same thing when I heard it but I didn't see anyone else comment so I thought I would lol.
I would literally recognize that riff anywhere lol
+ThePixelPanzer for real same
That pacifa's sound was amazing!
Chris Arias I have the same guitar!! The neck plays great, fast and the frets are very well put together. Like Rob, I have the natural. I despise the wood grain. My son is a graphic designer and where he works he will put a decal on it.
The pacifica might be the best ever bang for your buck guitar.
I'm not that big a fan of the look but damn does it sound great considering how budget it is.
Lee’s solo at the outdo of this video is my favourite of everything I’ve heard these guys do. Great ‘feel’ and fit over a great chord progression.
Guitar and gear snobs are the worst. Everyone knows it's not the instrument but the skill of the player who plays it. If you got middle-of-the-road gear (not too cheap or expensive), you could achieve pretty much the same results but, like many people out there, they're overly worried about the fools in the audience who are gonna whine about him having a Yamaha rather than a Gibson.
Who cares what they say? It's you up there playing, not them. They're watching you, not the other way around and if you have the skills to make good use of what you have and make good music, that's all that matters. I've seen too many guitar god wannabe's who tote around loads of expensive gear but the music they play is absolute garbage. I've also seen nobody's who can pick up a budget guitar and a budget amp and make them sound almost, if not as good as higher priced gear, not just with playing skills but, by playing music that is well written and pleasing to the audience/listener.
In the end, what matters most is the music and your skills at properly executing it, not really the gear which you use to play it on.
Very true.
In the early '70s while working part time cleaning a bakery after school for $1.40/hr, I saved up my $ and bought an ES-335 for $480. I've gone through a number of different amplifiers, but I still have the ES-335. I'd go for the better guitar as I think that is more inspiring than the amp. As for status, I think that people remember what kind of guitar you play rather than what kind of amp you play through.
Yamaha Pacifica, my first guitar! Served me well for 3 years.
Mine has been great for about 25 years, last summer I did a live show in front of about quarter of a million people in Rio (I play session) with a notable act. My Yamaha never let me down.
What did you get after 3 years?
6 years after starting I still use my Pacifica but I got an expensive amp
The pacifica won. As already said, the cheap guitars are not bad any more. With a decent amp you have everything you need. By the way: Great job on the guitar guys. Could hear this for hours.
For tone, beginners tend to think it's all about the guitar and experienced players know it's all about the amp (as long as the guitar going through the amp is decent and not some sub 200 piece of garbage). If you really think about it, an amp can change your sound FAR more than a guitar ever could. But this all has to do with tone and not the countless other elements of guitar playing.
Zack Ramsey not in the guitar or amp, it's in the player.
I highly agree with you
Zack Ramsey. Bingo!!! My thoughts exactly.
Zack Ramsey
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People say ‘all in the player’ but if you play all the right notes, in time, with good technique, and it STILL sounds bad, then it must be down to guitar or amp
As an old guy getting his first guitar my head told me to get a Yamaha 112V but I went with my heart and got an Epiphone SG Worn Cherry
G400 or special?
Better option iyam. I've been playing for more than a couple decades now as a hobby, j/s. Epiphones are great today, but the nuts can cling the strings often from being not cut quite right. If you find a string or two not changing when you tune until it suddenly snaps up or down after turning the peg for awhile, find a nice tech with a set of nut files to help you out for a decent price.
@@BoozyBeggar get a set of files, and sort that out
Next time switch amps so we can hear the difference!
smakusdod I doubt there'll be a part 2
Have mentioned in response to two prior vids-
The Captain gives some of his most inspired performances when playing a Les Paul- despite being a pure Strat guy.
The Bassbreaker makes sounds that far exceed its price. It can cover considerable sonic ground.
This amp is looking like a "buy it now" option.
Great stuff!