It’s unfortunate that you’re not enjoying the bike as much as you thought. The new MT 09 is one of my dream bikes! If you want to do a giveaway I’m your guy 😂
@@HassanIsDriving is it worth the additional couple thousand in your opinion? I just started riding and have a MT-03. Got it for a great deal so I’ve been learning with that
It's unlikely that you can use all the performance the MT-09 has. You haven't mentioned full throttle redlining it at corner exit on track days. So, it must be looks and what other people think about you (perception). What's your perfect looking motorcycle? Harley Davidson Low Rider? Triumph X-75 Hurricane? Captain America bike? MV Augusta Brutale 1000 RR? BSA Goldstar? What perception do you want people to have of you? Cheery GoldWing rider? 1%er? Ducatista? You can be whatever you want. The MT-09 is a pretty hot bike, all in all.
Track? That's not an option for me. No I don't care what others think of me on my bike. I imagine others can't see me on my bike anyways for safety. I DO care what I think the bike looks like. Do you want to ride a bike that looks good to you? or what others think looks good? ---- Yes they can be the same, but I only care about what I like. I'm buying for me, not others.
Almost the entire reason I got an xsr900 is the sound. I heard the Daytona 675 for the first time and knew a 3 cylinder was my dream bike. Haven’t regretted it for a moment.
2024 Yamaha XSR900 is turning heads, making me look back when I walk away and I hate my life when I'm not sitting on it! Haha! 1500 miles in 7 days. Love it!
@@KirkKreifels Hope that you get to enjoy your bike more than straight lines around town/City. Perhaps, if you find twisty roads and go on day trips you'll be able to find pleasure riding the MT-09. You haven't done alot of distance with it to really get to bond and have adventures. :) I'm just saying. Safe ride! Make yourself happy ;)
I own a 22 MT09SP. Love it and all its faults and strengths. As a biker we are supposed to be rebellious and adaptive. I love the wind blast and challenging it, shifting my butt around on the seat as needed. At 15K miles I've yet to use the cruise control and never will. Using Motul 7100 oil and the clutch engagement is immediate and concise. Best wishes with your new bike, looking forward to seeing what you buy!
Having owned two different MT09s and 3 MT07s… you should try a well sorted mt07. I have a very well kitted mt07 I use for the track. It’s such a great city bike, back roads ripper, and actually damn fun at the track with a suspension kit, solid ECU flash etc. 270 degree twins are just 🤌 Little bit more of a raw visceral experience having way less tech, rowdy little twin engine, and it’s loud as all get out with a nice exhaust
It sounds like you’d really enjoy a Aprillia Tuono 660 Factory. Little less power than the MT, has probably the best sounding twin engine, has all the tech the MT has. It’s technically a naked bike but has side plastics and a small windscreen, I actually went from the rs660 to the MT for the more comfortable upright ride but it was an amazing bike.
Kirk, that was the feeling I had when I was enjoying so many great Japanese motorcycles. I traded bikes almost every year, some year even own 3 to 4 street, track, dual sports at the same time. Every bike was wonderful but all were giving me that generic feeling. At the end of all those 25 years on 2 wheel, I fell in love with a Ducati 916. So much characters with this track focused machine. So addicting V twin torque, the Ducati's desmodromic sound, the fully adjustable suspension and the stares from other riders, and non riders alike. The Ducati 916 was a supermodel. If you have a chance, do a review on an Italian bike?
2024 z900rs. Even the base model is well equipped. It's a 4-cylinder tune for torque. It's a pretty bike and you'll end up taking pictures of it. The new ZX6R might also be jam after testing out the zx4rr
A few years ago I was in the market for a new middle weight naked bike. I narrowed my choice down to the MT-07 and the SV650 But since it was a large purchase I wanted to test ride the bike before buying, so I rented the MT07 first thinking I would love it because it looked so great on paper (even if I wasn't such a fan of its looks in person). And while it was a great bike, I never really felt that connection to it. So the next week I rented an SV650 and even though it was well used and worse for wear, I immediately fell in love with the bike and put a deposit down on one that day and have loved it ever since. Good luck with your search.
Agreed, I really enjoyed my demo ride, but I feel the same way when I think about owning one. The last bike I demo'd that weekend was a tuono. Between its sound and styling, the mt 09 sp couldn't compete.
Finally got to watch until the end. I've bought a few cars that i thought i'd love. Bought an 08 Landcruiser (used) to replace my 04. After about 6 mos, decided I liked my 04 (100 series ) more than the 200 series, and sold the newer one. I bought a Mercedes wagon (used), but it was almost too nice (and definitely too low), and sold it. And I've bought and sold two (new) dirt/dual sport bikes, after brief ownership. Now riding a 'vintage' 'dakar' bike, from 1989. Love it, but eyeing something new to go along side it in the garage. Bikes are cheap enough to have a couple.
Ever since I saw the video you riding the zx4rr, I knew it was only a matter off time before you decided to bite the bullet and get yourself one. If this indeed the case, congratulations on your new baby lol, if not good luck on your journey in finding that perfect bike Kirk 👍🏼👍🏼
It's a good thing that you review bikes! I have one observation to make... The best thing about riding a motorcycle is flying through curvy roads. It's sooooooo much fun! Florida has very few fun twisty roads to ride on. You should buy a bike made for your flat and straight riding environment, maybe a twin cruiser. The MT09 is made for fun roads.
Hahah did you not hear that the tank pads were for the previous year? If I put the logo down, they'd look absolutely stupid since they don't match the new tank.
I've made many videos saying that the CP3 platform is not for everybody. It is fast and aggressive. But for a fast aggressive Rider it is an absolute dream bike. I have a 23 mt-09 SP and love every second that I'm on it. If you're the type to first power wheelie away from every light. This is the greatest bike ever made. It's all relative. It can be too much for others. And I'm over here always convincing myself that I don't need a ZH2 lol
My son has owned many cool bikes( turnover factory 1100, dorso dura 1200 etc). We'll when he let me ride his MT10 I drove it 1 mile,turned around and gave it back. Way too brutal for me to even feel safe. Street nakeds go to full torque at the release of the clutch. Power wheelies with each gear. Yeah that's great. But not a safety feature I like. TEMT10 then nearly killed my son. I traded my Z900 RS for this reason. I chose the ZX4RR . Now this is a bike that is nimble, controllable , high tech, good looking and is in total control. Most liter bikes or near are insane and will put you in jail or the cemetery.
Hey don’t feel bad, if you don’t like it you don’t like it. Frustrating as it may be a two hour test ride is not enough to measure if you’re going to gel with a bike. I have 5 brand new bikes since 2017. Two of them have lasted only 6 months before I traded in and lost a load of money. Thanks for your video, I think I will be keeping my mt07 for a few more years
I first bought a MT-07 then bought the 09 to commute 70 miles each way to work. While it was great on the freeway it just wasn't as fun. I rode it less and less then finally sold it. Kept the 07 and I'll never sell it in the fleet.
I have had 3 motorcycles brand new in the pass year. From the spring of 2023 to now. 2022 Yamaha R7: Pros : light , agile, wheelie monster, lots of low end torque, an looked good. Cons: power was made for down low so higher up in revs was very under whelming, the suspension was very basic, seat sucked, to light to get on hwy or interstate because it would blow you all over the place. I sold that bike at 700 miles. Actually got all my money back on private sell. 🤪 2021 gsxr1000r 100th anniversary edition: Pros: lol i loved this bike, the paint job, the sick exhaust notes especially taking off banging thru the gears at low revs sounded like a exotic car, the power on tap , stable in corners an on hwy with inspired confidence, easy to work on just few bolts an the whole side fairings came off. Cons: seat sucked lol , the power was to much at times an would have me death gripping the bars, eat thru tires like they were candy, the screen sucked an it wasn't a tft either, lil bit more viby in bars then i liked, my palms would go numb after riding more than hr. An my kneck hurt aswell. I purchased the bike at 4k miles an sold it at 8k. I lost out on maybe 1500-2k. Now i own a 2024 mt09 same color as you an i love it. It checked all my boxes. I was between the 2024 gsxs1000 an the 2024 mt09 an actual got to test ride both back to back an i couldn't tell a huge difference in the power. The gsxs1000 is like 476 pounds so tgat extra 30 hp wasn't that noticeable an i came from a 200hp bike so after test riding them an going home i chose the mt09 the next day. The gsxs1000 is a nice bike but it lacks alot of features in the user friendly department. No tft, no cruise, no imu. No gismos an gadgetz you do get a nice bike tho if none of that matters but to me those did an the weight was insane to me. My gsxr1000r was lighter 😅. I love the sound of the mt09 . .... so yes i have went thru your situation. Youll take a lose trading but private sell maybe not so much. 🤷🏻 i buy my bikes out right tho. Just know if you get a full fairing bike your asking for more expenses, replacing fairings after rocks eat them up, an the will, more expensive on insurance, the ergos suck, an there not good if you ever have a packpack. Idk if it was just weird timing or just me but after 800 mile mark i got a update thru the app an i felt like the bike is a totally different bike, more torque, more power, throttle smoother an clutch felt better. Could just been me tho.
I bought my ‘23 MT09 Cyan last year from Power Lodge and I had my eyes on the bike for years. I love seeing it in the garage and wish it would stop raining in the afternoons so I could get out on it. It’s got much more power than I’m willing to flirt with but it’s an absolute blast ripping it on streets the way I have it set up. Best of luck on your new ride. I’m sure I’ll see you around! ✌️
100% Kirk is getting a ninja zx4rr screamer. I think if he gets a parallel twin he’s going to be just as disappointed when he gets used to how mild the power comes on
Sounds like you want an adventure bike and completely away from the "sporty" type of bikes. I love the looks of the MT09 and Speed Triple RS. I can get away with long rides with no wind protection at all as well. I currently ride a N400 with lowered clip-ons and it's been great. Good thing is bikes aren't too expensive, so you can switch the flavor more frequently. :)
everything you mention you don't like is why all of us are looking to buy this bike. Everyone knows the MT7 and MT9 drive like this so i am surprised you bought one as there are plenty of tame machines out there.
Came from a gsx-s750 2020, somewhat unintentionally put it up for trade. Ended up with a z900 2023. More or less the same bike with a couple smaller differences
Excellent piece. Very well written illustrated essay that I'm sure will help anyone making a decision along the same lines. The background philosophy applies over many areas in life. You show how important it is to honestly examine what makes you happy about what you are doing even if it requires an admission that makes were made. Correcting them and moving on is the best policy! Thanks.
I feel the same I purchased mine a couple of months ago. I've put 1200 miles on it. On paper it has everything electronics, cruise control, handles well. But it doesn't have the WOW factor when I look at it. Thinking of trading for bmw s1000r or ktm 1390
Riding in the Florida summer surrounded by flat roads and senior citizens wouldn’t exactly get me too excited no matter what the bike is. But yeah not a fan of this bike, just get the ZX-4RR.
Just adding my 2 cents here, hearing all your points from the style which you dont necessarily like, to the sound and character of the engine, the excess of power that you dont necessarily enjoy as stated in the Miata example, it all just points that you were very heavily influenced by all the positive reviews this bike had and you bought it not necessarily because you liked it, but because everybody else did, and it just made practical sense price wise Not saying that you should swap it to something else as you may grow into it and start liking it sometime down the road, but you should really look into the Aprilia RS660 or Tuono if you want to go Naked, or the Suzuki GSX-8S and R models
100% agree with you. Almost bought a CP3 in the form of the XSR900, loved the looks. Ended up with the XSR700 mainly because it sounds better to me. Slapped on a Kelpi exhaust and boy does it bark now! Fast but not too fast. Also, started on a Grom. Something about going fast on a slow bike is way more fun than going slow on a fast bike. I think the XSR700 will be a part of my stable for years to come. Love your channel. Keep it up!
I'm sorry to say that but everything you describe is contrary to yamaha selling points of this bike being the dark side of japan, a hooligan, master of torque and it sounds to me like you bought this bike for wrong reasons as a compromise rather than buying what you really want. Yes this bike is crazy, yes it loves when you open the throttle and wants to dislocate your shoulders when doing it, it's a great bike but what's the point of having it if you just want to sound good and bop around the city. Bikes are not suppose to be logical choice, buy something that makes you smile even if it's stupid. Hopefully you will find a better match for you. And regarding your remarks on suspension, coming from factory it's completely out of whack, with it properly set I haven't noticed any of the issues you mentioned. I've put 3k miles on mine and the clutch works perfect, the bike does not like to set of from low RPM in my opinion you're not giving it enaugh throttle when setting off.
Is it possible that maybe the Kelpie isn't the exhaust system for you? I was going to suggest the new R9 for the wind factor but then i heard you mention that you would have similar sound complaints. I am in the market for an MT-09 / R9 now.. mainly because of the tech and features but your right about the compromise factor kinda sucking.
You're crazy if you think the MT09 is a bad purchase. Its honestly one of the best 'bang for buck' bikes on the market for so many reviewers. You might have more fun on an MT07 If its too much power for you and you think you're not getting the full enjoyment out of it. Such a shame because myself and many others wish to be in a position to own a bike as crisp, sexy and smooth as the 2024 MT09.
Your blurred ending is a ZX - 6R. Anniversary edition i think. Nice bike. Always wanted a crotch rocket. But as I got older I realized they have way too much high end power and I would end up killing myself and/or constantly get tickets. Sportbikes have crap turn radiuses and you lean on your wrists to much for my liking. I am currently an MT-09 gen 4 owner and yes I completely agree that the wind you feel on this bike is stupid ridiculous, and the seat for now after about 2.5 - 3hrs on it starts to get uncomfortable. Those are about the only things I wish were better. Other than that, I get compliments on it occasionally. Yes it's not the prettiest thing ever, (only for the MT-09s gen 1, gen 2, & gen 3 is it the better Model. IMO. Us inline 3rs are a rare breed because we thoroughly enjoy the sound and torque of our machine along with the hooliganism it is known for. Again IMO. Good luck with your next choice for a bike. At the end of the day being a rider is the most fun you can have out on the streets. Ride safe & ride on Kirk. Duces.
Seems you loved the 2024 Kawasaki Ninja ZX-4RR, but you liking it and wanting to own one might be a different thing. The Ninja really sounded great. Was a joy video to watch and listen to. Hope you find one that will check all your boxes.
Damn, this video really speaks to me, I'm currently looking to buy my first bike, and the MT-09 checks all the boxes, great looking/cruise control/electronic for safety/3 cylinder and the acoustic sound chamber....etc, everything was so great on paper But when I rent it and actually ride it, I found out the riding position and the seat is not great for long ride, and the clutch issue just like you mentioned, i can't confidently engage the clutch every time, and the fear is really made me feel this is not for me I really wanted to like this bike, it's got every spec i want, looks good, sounds great, but i guess just don't have the connection to this bike 😞
Im with you! This MT09 is a dream for some, and a bad fit for others. So great there is lots of variety --- this bike helped me know what's more important to me know other than a spec sheet.
I bought myself a gsx8r few days ago but was interested in mt09. Decided to go against Yamaha because they're so new that there was no deal off msrp, and also the power being too much for my use case (mostly commuting and weekend fun). My bike is very relaxed for the most part but when you ring it does 0-60 in low-mid 3 seconds. Maybe you should consider these types of middleweight naked or sports tourers that you like the looks of. On bikes right color and looks are very important as you stated in the video.
You mentioned the Mx-5 Miata. That makes me think you should try a mt07 (or xsr700 if you like the looks better), a zx4r, a moto guzzi v7, sv650, triumph or Ducati scrambler. All those bikes have tons of character but not too much power to enjoy on the road. A lot of people like the mt07 better than the mt09 because you can max out the performance on the street without being too dangerous.
You're already riding one of the best bang-for-buck bikes on the market. If you want better suspension and better looks, you're almost always looking at a higher-end sportbike. Ducati SuperSport should be on your short list. Suzuki and Kawasaki 1000s as well. However, there is no perfect bike. Just for street riding... I've got the 2024 XSR900 & R1300GS. Polar opposites. High-speed interstates and 2-up riding; the BMW. 100 deg days and want a nimble beast on the back roads; the Yammie! ;-)
Just mod it! There's so much you can do. Or just get an SP then... I'm still waiting for mine and I already have 3k worth of mods for it in the garage.
Official Yamaha Europe, has plenty windscreens . We good here with accessories . Sp model maybe? Trade it to triumph 765rs or 2024 aprilia tuono 660 factory
MT09 and SP are the rational choice until recently for me as well. They make sense and present a great value and quality. That being said, I ended up buying the 2024 KTM Duke 990 for that wow factor and the sound as it matches the feeling I am expecting when walking into the garage and riding it
To each their own....... I love the triple sound.... waiting with baited breath for the R9. I think the lesson here, which is tough with motorcycles.... test drive a few before making a decision.
Exactly. Sadly, unless you can make a special riding event where you can test multiple models, you're out of luck. Most dealers won't let you ride whatever you want.
I had a 2024 MT-09 for just over 600 miles! I loved it at first but the more I rode it the more I hated it! The stock seat and comfort seat from Yamaha is uncomfortable for me after 1.5 hours to the point that it was painful. Also, there were times when I didn’t have full confidence in the front end on some corners. I ended up getting rid of it and I absolutely love its replacement. It’s much more comfortable than the MT-09 was.
I had a 2014 fz09 and unfortunately it got stolen and decided to get a ducati monster 1200 and boy what a fun bike it is. I suggest you try one if you want a raw speed feeling. its a 2014 and they can be found below 8k around my area in the east coast.
If u have a mistake about the mt09 sell it. U talk alot. U mmust he thankful and happy to have one because there are alot of mennout there wishing to have one. But u always have but need but???? Ur crazy men. This is the problem nowadys on all people. No satisfaction. Just be contented and thankful. And one thing more,,,, go and enrol on a motorcycle school to improve ur ride. Ride safe bro!!!!
So, you purchased the: Kawasaki Ninja ZX4RR. I don't blame you ---- if my arms were longer I would do the same. OR, if they would come out with a more upright model of the 400 4 cylinders ---- I would be in. Meanwhile for me this Fall ( hopefully arriving in USA ): CFMOTO 450 CL-C cruiser ---- parallel twin, 270° crank, belt final drive.
I’m sorry your bike is not living up to your expectations. I hope you find a more suitable replacement. Heart over head when it comes to motorcycle decisions.
It looks and sounds great to me. Perhaps you can buy a 2nd bike, while keeping the subject Yamaha. If you're going to be "fickle", perhaps do more research and visualization to be sure your feel/emotions will last longer. next time.
Buyers remorse? You knew what it looked and sounded like before you bought it... so you cant throw shade on it for that... 🙅♀️ At least its a great performer, no?
You don't know what it sounds like unless you hear it in person. I didn't. Looks were good enough but as I lived with it...good enough isn't enough. Never threw shade on the bike: It's incredible!!! Just not for me.
How about getting a Ducati Monster, great styling, has a Twin engine. Or the 2024 Husqvarna Svartpilen 801, I really dig that style. OK, i just checked, doesn't seem to be available in the US, but they have the 401
That MT does nothing for me, and I’m a huge fan of naked bikes. My first one was a used ‘82 Seca 650 with shaft drive, after taking the MSF course on their Honda 250s. What about a Ducati Monster? Those are beautiful.
You do not buy this bike for looks, although it does look the business. It's the synergy of a naked fun performance bike for the road. To me there are two routes for you. A performance Ducati V4, a super model beauty, at one end of the spectrum, or a Moto Guzi at the other classic/retro characterful end, with the transverse v-twin.
Those stoopid bar end mirrors ! i hate those things with a vengeance , even in your view half the mirror is obscured by your wrists , and you have to make a determined effort to look at anything !taking your attention of the road ! ,the single most dangerous accessory you can add , put decent mirrors and it will change the look immediately ! and you put the exhaust on it , did you get it tuned to the exhaust ? doesn't sound like it !
I like the mirrors. I'm happy to swap a little visibility for aesthetics. No tune on the exhaust since at the time, there was no tune for the kelpi on the 2024 model. Vcyclenut just put up a tune for the kelpi exhaust---but I'm ready to move on. Cheers.
Swapping your MT-09 for a Ninja.... meh. Unfortunate you don't like your bike anymore, but I'd disagree on some points. The MT-09 is for the most part usable other than 6th gear.
Never liked the sound of a triple also.. a screaming 4cilinder is so much more engaging. Thats why i got a Z900, it looks and sounds just better. But spec wise the mt09 is way ahead.
It’s unfortunate that you’re not enjoying the bike as much as you thought. The new MT 09 is one of my dream bikes! If you want to do a giveaway I’m your guy 😂
I bought a 2024 MT-09SP and I love it!
@@HassanIsDriving is it worth the additional couple thousand in your opinion? I just started riding and have a MT-03. Got it for a great deal so I’ve been learning with that
Yamaha offers a full touring package for it, screen, bags, comfort seat and even heated grips...not that you need those in Florida
It's unlikely that you can use all the performance the MT-09 has. You haven't mentioned full throttle redlining it at corner exit on track days. So, it must be looks and what other people think about you (perception). What's your perfect looking motorcycle? Harley Davidson Low Rider? Triumph X-75 Hurricane? Captain America bike? MV Augusta Brutale 1000 RR? BSA Goldstar? What perception do you want people to have of you? Cheery GoldWing rider? 1%er? Ducatista? You can be whatever you want. The MT-09 is a pretty hot bike, all in all.
Track? That's not an option for me.
No I don't care what others think of me on my bike.
I imagine others can't see me on my bike anyways for safety.
I DO care what I think the bike looks like.
Do you want to ride a bike that looks good to you? or what others think looks good?
---- Yes they can be the same, but I only care about what I like. I'm buying for me, not others.
@@KirkKreifels what naked bike ticks the looks for you?
Almost the entire reason I got an xsr900 is the sound. I heard the Daytona 675 for the first time and knew a 3 cylinder was my dream bike. Haven’t regretted it for a moment.
xsr also looks better, especially in blue :)
@@mnap89absolutely. I hadn’t even considered getting a naked bike until I saw this one in blue.
Happy for you!!! Triple sings to some, not to others.
2024 Yamaha XSR900 is turning heads, making me look back when I walk away and I hate my life when I'm not sitting on it! Haha! 1500 miles in 7 days. Love it!
Yes with a seat conversion the xsr is pretty
@@KirkKreifelsto be fair it’s pretty compared to the mt09 in general. This is coming from an fz09 owner
@@KirkKreifels Hope that you get to enjoy your bike more than straight lines around town/City. Perhaps, if you find twisty roads and go on day trips you'll be able to find pleasure riding the MT-09. You haven't done alot of distance with it to really get to bond and have adventures. :) I'm just saying. Safe ride! Make yourself happy ;)
Owning a 2023 MT-07...the sound is deep, the vibrations are real...speed...not fast but not slow lol
I own a 22 MT09SP. Love it and all its faults and strengths. As a biker we are supposed to be rebellious and adaptive.
I love the wind blast and challenging it, shifting my butt around on the seat as needed. At 15K miles I've yet to use the cruise control and never will. Using Motul 7100 oil and the clutch engagement is immediate and concise. Best wishes with your new bike, looking forward to seeing what you buy!
Having owned two different MT09s and 3 MT07s… you should try a well sorted mt07. I have a very well kitted mt07 I use for the track. It’s such a great city bike, back roads ripper, and actually damn fun at the track with a suspension kit, solid ECU flash etc. 270 degree twins are just 🤌 Little bit more of a raw visceral experience having way less tech, rowdy little twin engine, and it’s loud as all get out with a nice exhaust
YES! Honestly the MT07 XSR700 look and sound right. I look huge on the MT07 though lol
It sounds like you’d really enjoy a Aprillia Tuono 660 Factory. Little less power than the MT, has probably the best sounding twin engine, has all the tech the MT has. It’s technically a naked bike but has side plastics and a small windscreen, I actually went from the rs660 to the MT for the more comfortable upright ride but it was an amazing bike.
Kirk, that was the feeling I had when I was enjoying so many great Japanese motorcycles. I traded bikes almost every year, some year even own 3 to 4 street, track, dual sports at the same time. Every bike was wonderful but all were giving me that generic feeling. At the end of all those 25 years on 2 wheel, I fell in love with a Ducati 916. So much characters with this track focused machine. So addicting V twin torque, the Ducati's desmodromic sound, the fully adjustable suspension and the stares from other riders, and non riders alike. The Ducati 916 was a supermodel. If you have a chance, do a review on an Italian bike?
The bike for me that you speak of as far as tickling my fancy is the mate black with gloss black and red 2024 Ducati V2. Just bought it 2 weeks ago.
That'll do!
2024 z900rs. Even the base model is well equipped. It's a 4-cylinder tune for torque. It's a pretty bike and you'll end up taking pictures of it. The new ZX6R might also be jam after testing out the zx4rr
In Matt black the MT-09 looks way better.... And i an addicted to the three cilinder sound....
My brother Kirk welcome to Kawasaki family and in the 40th anniversary!!! Congrats and Let’s go 🎉!
A few years ago I was in the market for a new middle weight naked bike. I narrowed my choice down to the MT-07 and the SV650 But since it was a large purchase I wanted to test ride the bike before buying, so I rented the MT07 first thinking I would love it because it looked so great on paper (even if I wasn't such a fan of its looks in person). And while it was a great bike, I never really felt that connection to it. So the next week I rented an SV650 and even though it was well used and worse for wear, I immediately fell in love with the bike and put a deposit down on one that day and have loved it ever since. Good luck with your search.
Thanks for sharing! Good choice mate.
Agreed, I really enjoyed my demo ride, but I feel the same way when I think about owning one. The last bike I demo'd that weekend was a tuono. Between its sound and styling, the mt 09 sp couldn't compete.
Finally got to watch until the end. I've bought a few cars that i thought i'd love. Bought an 08 Landcruiser (used) to replace my 04. After about 6 mos, decided I liked my 04 (100 series ) more than the 200 series, and sold the newer one. I bought a Mercedes wagon (used), but it was almost too nice (and definitely too low), and sold it. And I've bought and sold two (new) dirt/dual sport bikes, after brief ownership. Now riding a 'vintage' 'dakar' bike, from 1989. Love it, but eyeing something new to go along side it in the garage. Bikes are cheap enough to have a couple.
Ever since I saw the video you riding the zx4rr, I knew it was only a matter off time before you decided to bite the bullet and get yourself one. If this indeed the case, congratulations on your new baby lol, if not good luck on your journey in finding that perfect bike Kirk 👍🏼👍🏼
Thanks! I think you'll be having fun with my upcoming videos :)
It's a good thing that you review bikes! I have one observation to make... The best thing about riding a motorcycle is flying through curvy roads. It's sooooooo much fun! Florida has very few fun twisty roads to ride on. You should buy a bike made for your flat and straight riding environment, maybe a twin cruiser. The MT09 is made for fun roads.
When i saw your tank pads upside down i knew you not right guy for that byke 🤷🏻♂️
Hahah did you not hear that the tank pads were for the previous year? If I put the logo down, they'd look absolutely stupid since they don't match the new tank.
@@KirkKreifels i did, i was just upset you dont like a byke hahah….
I've made many videos saying that the CP3 platform is not for everybody. It is fast and aggressive. But for a fast aggressive Rider it is an absolute dream bike. I have a 23 mt-09 SP and love every second that I'm on it. If you're the type to first power wheelie away from every light. This is the greatest bike ever made.
It's all relative. It can be too much for others. And I'm over here always convincing myself that I don't need a ZH2 lol
Exactly! Well-said my man. It's GREAT for some, maybe many, just doesn't make me feel euphoric.
Ninja 400 or zx4rr
My son has owned many cool bikes( turnover factory 1100, dorso dura 1200 etc). We'll when he let me ride his MT10 I drove it 1 mile,turned around and gave it back. Way too brutal for me to even feel safe. Street nakeds go to full torque at the release of the clutch. Power wheelies with each gear. Yeah that's great. But not a safety feature I like. TEMT10 then nearly killed my son.
I traded my Z900 RS for this reason. I chose the ZX4RR . Now this is a bike that is nimble, controllable , high tech, good looking and is in total control. Most liter bikes or near are insane and will put you in jail or the cemetery.
Hey don’t feel bad, if you don’t like it you don’t like it. Frustrating as it may be a two hour test ride is not enough to measure if you’re going to gel with a bike. I have 5 brand new bikes since 2017. Two of them have lasted only 6 months before I traded in and lost a load of money. Thanks for your video, I think I will be keeping my mt07 for a few more years
Honestly think the MT07 would be more fun for me too... Maybe the XSR700 ?
That's odd man, to each their own....I absolutely love the looks and sound of the bike! I'll take it off your hands!
That’s bike ownership in a nutshell. More than car owners, bike owners flip. Or just end up with multiple. Get a Moto Guzzi!
I first bought a MT-07 then bought the 09 to commute 70 miles each way to work. While it was great on the freeway it just wasn't as fun. I rode it less and less then finally sold it. Kept the 07 and I'll never sell it in the fleet.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, that headlight is horrendous for me the XSR 900 looks better
I agree. The XSR looks the part from the front. The seat is ugly but that can be fixed!
@@KirkKreifels Agreed, they fix that and it's on its way 🤙
I have had 3 motorcycles brand new in the pass year. From the spring of 2023 to now.
2022 Yamaha R7:
Pros : light , agile, wheelie monster, lots of low end torque, an looked good.
Cons: power was made for down low so higher up in revs was very under whelming, the suspension was very basic, seat sucked, to light to get on hwy or interstate because it would blow you all over the place.
I sold that bike at 700 miles. Actually got all my money back on private sell. 🤪
2021 gsxr1000r 100th anniversary edition:
Pros: lol i loved this bike, the paint job, the sick exhaust notes especially taking off banging thru the gears at low revs sounded like a exotic car, the power on tap , stable in corners an on hwy with inspired confidence, easy to work on just few bolts an the whole side fairings came off.
Cons: seat sucked lol , the power was to much at times an would have me death gripping the bars, eat thru tires like they were candy, the screen sucked an it wasn't a tft either, lil bit more viby in bars then i liked, my palms would go numb after riding more than hr. An my kneck hurt aswell.
I purchased the bike at 4k miles an sold it at 8k. I lost out on maybe 1500-2k.
Now i own a 2024 mt09 same color as you an i love it. It checked all my boxes. I was between the 2024 gsxs1000 an the 2024 mt09 an actual got to test ride both back to back an i couldn't tell a huge difference in the power. The gsxs1000 is like 476 pounds so tgat extra 30 hp wasn't that noticeable an i came from a 200hp bike so after test riding them an going home i chose the mt09 the next day. The gsxs1000 is a nice bike but it lacks alot of features in the user friendly department. No tft, no cruise, no imu. No gismos an gadgetz you do get a nice bike tho if none of that matters but to me those did an the weight was insane to me. My gsxr1000r was lighter 😅. I love the sound of the mt09 . .... so yes i have went thru your situation. Youll take a lose trading but private sell maybe not so much. 🤷🏻 i buy my bikes out right tho. Just know if you get a full fairing bike your asking for more expenses, replacing fairings after rocks eat them up, an the will, more expensive on insurance, the ergos suck, an there not good if you ever have a packpack. Idk if it was just weird timing or just me but after 800 mile mark i got a update thru the app an i felt like the bike is a totally different bike, more torque, more power, throttle smoother an clutch felt better. Could just been me tho.
I rode both a mt09 sp and mt10 sp. I fell in love with mt10, sound power was and chassis was intoxicating. Mt09 was bleh to me.
This is how I felt about my GSXS-1000GT except I didn’t like the high rev power band and crazy weight.. bought a supermoto instead and i’m in love!
You're correct! Find the bike that sings your soul's song.
I knw you saying that it’s not the bike for you but I have to admit that shyt sounds beautiful af on this video 💯🔥😂
I think you just don't like riding naked bikes.. I think what you really want is a sports bike.
I just bought the same bike at power-lodge, i got rid of my fat boy 114, you could trade back and get it, they listed it for 11,995.
I saw your old bike there! MT09 is an alien vs a fat boy!
@@KirkKreifels 😂😂😂
I bought my ‘23 MT09 Cyan last year from Power Lodge and I had my eyes on the bike for years. I love seeing it in the garage and wish it would stop raining in the afternoons so I could get out on it. It’s got much more power than I’m willing to flirt with but it’s an absolute blast ripping it on streets the way I have it set up. Best of luck on your new ride. I’m sure I’ll see you around! ✌️
Be safe neighbor!
100% Kirk is getting a ninja zx4rr screamer. I think if he gets a parallel twin he’s going to be just as disappointed when he gets used to how mild the power comes on
Sounds like you want an adventure bike and completely away from the "sporty" type of bikes. I love the looks of the MT09 and Speed Triple RS. I can get away with long rides with no wind protection at all as well. I currently ride a N400 with lowered clip-ons and it's been great. Good thing is bikes aren't too expensive, so you can switch the flavor more frequently. :)
everything you mention you don't like is why all of us are looking to buy this bike. Everyone knows the MT7 and MT9 drive like this so i am surprised you bought one as there are plenty of tame machines out there.
You don't know until you've spent good time in the saddle.
Never a mistake buying a motorcycle, but a reason to buy another.
Excited to see more motorcycle action from the Kirk Kreifels
6:09 MT10 does seem a handful but if you want to try and tame to beast, it can deliver.
I could never get bored of this bike, it needs a set of twisty roads, florida is such a boring ass state to have a motorcycle in.
I don’t like the placement of the side mirrors.
Came from a gsx-s750 2020, somewhat unintentionally put it up for trade. Ended up with a z900 2023. More or less the same bike with a couple smaller differences
Excellent piece. Very well written illustrated essay that I'm sure will help anyone making a decision along the same lines. The background philosophy applies over many areas in life. You show how important it is to honestly examine what makes you happy about what you are doing even if it requires an admission that makes were made. Correcting them and moving on is the best policy! Thanks.
I feel the same I purchased mine a couple of months ago. I've put 1200 miles on it. On paper it has everything electronics, cruise control, handles well. But it doesn't have the WOW factor when I look at it. Thinking of trading for bmw s1000r or ktm 1390
Riding in the Florida summer surrounded by flat roads and senior citizens wouldn’t exactly get me too excited no matter what the bike is. But yeah not a fan of this bike, just get the ZX-4RR.
Hahahaha. Yes it's tough to get excited to ride --- However the scenery can be quite beautiful at slower speeds. MT09 doesn't like slow haha
Just adding my 2 cents here, hearing all your points from the style which you dont necessarily like, to the sound and character of the engine, the excess of power that you dont necessarily enjoy as stated in the Miata example, it all just points that you were very heavily influenced by all the positive reviews this bike had and you bought it not necessarily because you liked it, but because everybody else did, and it just made practical sense price wise
Not saying that you should swap it to something else as you may grow into it and start liking it sometime down the road, but you should really look into the Aprilia RS660 or Tuono if you want to go Naked, or the Suzuki GSX-8S and R models
I also don’t like the looks, but I am in love with the looks of the XSR 900. Especially in Marlboro Red.
100% agree with you. Almost bought a CP3 in the form of the XSR900, loved the looks. Ended up with the XSR700 mainly because it sounds better to me. Slapped on a Kelpi exhaust and boy does it bark now! Fast but not too fast. Also, started on a Grom. Something about going fast on a slow bike is way more fun than going slow on a fast bike. I think the XSR700 will be a part of my stable for years to come. Love your channel. Keep it up!
Thanks mate! Yes I agree the cp2 sounds better than the CP3! Love the looks of the XSR models too! Hope I get a chance to ride the xsr700!
@@KirkKreifels Hit me up next time you’re in Cali my guy!! I’ll take you on my fave twisties, GMR, Big Bear, Idylwild. We got it all!
Sounds great man! Don't over think it. Jeez
I'm sorry to say that but everything you describe is contrary to yamaha selling points of this bike being the dark side of japan, a hooligan, master of torque and it sounds to me like you bought this bike for wrong reasons as a compromise rather than buying what you really want. Yes this bike is crazy, yes it loves when you open the throttle and wants to dislocate your shoulders when doing it, it's a great bike but what's the point of having it if you just want to sound good and bop around the city. Bikes are not suppose to be logical choice, buy something that makes you smile even if it's stupid. Hopefully you will find a better match for you. And regarding your remarks on suspension, coming from factory it's completely out of whack, with it properly set I haven't noticed any of the issues you mentioned. I've put 3k miles on mine and the clutch works perfect, the bike does not like to set of from low RPM in my opinion you're not giving it enaugh throttle when setting off.
Is it possible that maybe the Kelpie isn't the exhaust system for you? I was going to suggest the new R9 for the wind factor but then i heard you mention that you would have similar sound complaints. I am in the market for an MT-09 / R9 now.. mainly because of the tech and features but your right about the compromise factor kinda sucking.
Do not go to ZX-4R right away. Try other bikes in the class too: GSX-8R, Daytona 660, CBR650R, maybe even R7 but I would not go for it.
You're crazy if you think the MT09 is a bad purchase. Its honestly one of the best 'bang for buck' bikes on the market for so many reviewers. You might have more fun on an MT07 If its too much power for you and you think you're not getting the full enjoyment out of it. Such a shame because myself and many others wish to be in a position to own a bike as crisp, sexy and smooth as the 2024 MT09.
Your blurred ending is a ZX - 6R. Anniversary edition i think. Nice bike. Always wanted a crotch rocket. But as I got older I realized they have way too much high end power and I would end up killing myself and/or constantly get tickets. Sportbikes have crap turn radiuses and you lean on your wrists to much for my liking. I am currently an MT-09 gen 4 owner and yes I completely agree that the wind you feel on this bike is stupid ridiculous, and the seat for now after about 2.5 - 3hrs on it starts to get uncomfortable. Those are about the only things I wish were better. Other than that, I get compliments on it occasionally. Yes it's not the prettiest thing ever, (only for the MT-09s gen 1, gen 2, & gen 3 is it the better Model. IMO. Us inline 3rs are a rare breed because we thoroughly enjoy the sound and torque of our machine along with the hooliganism it is known for. Again IMO. Good luck with your next choice for a bike. At the end of the day being a rider is the most fun you can have out on the streets. Ride safe & ride on Kirk. Duces.
Thanks mate!!! Happy the MT09 is right for you. You're close with the ZX-6r... stay tuned!!!
Seems you loved the 2024 Kawasaki Ninja ZX-4RR, but you liking it and wanting to own one might be a different thing.
The Ninja really sounded great. Was a joy video to watch and listen to. Hope you find one that will check all your boxes.
Thank you mate!
Damn, this video really speaks to me, I'm currently looking to buy my first bike, and the MT-09 checks all the boxes, great looking/cruise control/electronic for safety/3 cylinder and the acoustic sound chamber....etc, everything was so great on paper
But when I rent it and actually ride it, I found out the riding position and the seat is not great for long ride, and the clutch issue just like you mentioned, i can't confidently engage the clutch every time, and the fear is really made me feel this is not for me
I really wanted to like this bike, it's got every spec i want, looks good, sounds great, but i guess just don't have the connection to this bike 😞
Im with you! This MT09 is a dream for some, and a bad fit for others. So great there is lots of variety --- this bike helped me know what's more important to me know other than a spec sheet.
I bought myself a gsx8r few days ago but was interested in mt09. Decided to go against Yamaha because they're so new that there was no deal off msrp, and also the power being too much for my use case (mostly commuting and weekend fun).
My bike is very relaxed for the most part but when you ring it does 0-60 in low-mid 3 seconds. Maybe you should consider these types of middleweight naked or sports tourers that you like the looks of. On bikes right color and looks are very important as you stated in the video.
You mentioned the Mx-5 Miata. That makes me think you should try a mt07 (or xsr700 if you like the looks better), a zx4r, a moto guzzi v7, sv650, triumph or Ducati scrambler. All those bikes have tons of character but not too much power to enjoy on the road. A lot of people like the mt07 better than the mt09 because you can max out the performance on the street without being too dangerous.
You're already riding one of the best bang-for-buck bikes on the market. If you want better suspension and better looks, you're almost always looking at a higher-end sportbike. Ducati SuperSport should be on your short list. Suzuki and Kawasaki 1000s as well. However, there is no perfect bike. Just for street riding... I've got the 2024 XSR900 & R1300GS. Polar opposites. High-speed interstates and 2-up riding; the BMW. 100 deg days and want a nimble beast on the back roads; the Yammie! ;-)
The XSR is beautiful!
Sc project exhaust has a much deeper tone and aggressive sound
Maybe the new gsx8r would be a good fit for you. Or a ninja 650 since you were leaning to the sound of a twin.
Motor cycles are emotional atleast in the US. I had to change my wife's bike, cause it wasn't the right one. Gl on your search
Thanks mate.
Just mod it! There's so much you can do. Or just get an SP then... I'm still waiting for mine and I already have 3k worth of mods for it in the garage.
Official Yamaha Europe, has plenty windscreens . We good here with accessories . Sp model maybe? Trade it to triumph 765rs or 2024 aprilia tuono 660 factory
MT09 and SP are the rational choice until recently for me as well. They make sense and present a great value and quality.
That being said, I ended up buying the 2024 KTM Duke 990 for that wow factor and the sound as it matches the feeling I am expecting when walking into the garage and riding it
YES!!! Your motorcycle should make you FEEL alive (riding it or not).
@@KirkKreifelsbuy a Harley if you want to be a poser
I think that Kawi messed ya up lol, it happens! 4RR is special in this day and age📢
To each their own....... I love the triple sound.... waiting with baited breath for the R9. I think the lesson here, which is tough with motorcycles.... test drive a few before making a decision.
Exactly. Sadly, unless you can make a special riding event where you can test multiple models, you're out of luck. Most dealers won't let you ride whatever you want.
I had a 2024 MT-09 for just over 600 miles! I loved it at first but the more I rode it the more I hated it! The stock seat and comfort seat from Yamaha is uncomfortable for me after 1.5 hours to the point that it was painful. Also, there were times when I didn’t have full confidence in the front end on some corners. I ended up getting rid of it and I absolutely love its replacement. It’s much more comfortable than the MT-09 was.
Thanks for sharing! What did you get instead?
@@KirkKreifels I traded for a new Triumph Speed Triple 1200 RS.
lol, kinda "I bought wrong bike and I have only subjective complaints", next time rent a bike for few days to choose better 🤷♂
You for real...its absolutly georgeus..!!
I love it.
Colour
Looks
Performance
After market parts..
WOW 😆
It is really cool!!! It just doesn't do it for me. The park ranger was drooling over it for 20 mins haha.
I had a 2014 fz09 and unfortunately it got stolen and decided to get a ducati monster 1200 and boy what a fun bike it is. I suggest you try one if you want a raw speed feeling. its a 2014 and they can be found below 8k around my area in the east coast.
That monster is a baaaaaaad machine!
If u have a mistake about the mt09 sell it. U talk alot. U mmust he thankful and happy to have one because there are alot of mennout there wishing to have one. But u always have but need but???? Ur crazy men. This is the problem nowadys on all people. No satisfaction. Just be contented and thankful. And one thing more,,,, go and enrol on a motorcycle school to improve ur ride. Ride safe bro!!!!
Just wait for the R9!
Ermax makes a 22cm windshield for the 2024 mt09 just so you know!
Honestly think you wouldve loved the Tenere 700. Dead sexy and you can enjoy it away from cars and far from florida drivers.
So, you purchased the: Kawasaki Ninja ZX4RR. I don't blame you ---- if my arms were longer I would do the same. OR, if they would come out with a more upright model of the 400 4 cylinders ---- I would be in. Meanwhile for me this Fall ( hopefully arriving in USA ):
CFMOTO 450 CL-C cruiser ---- parallel twin, 270° crank, belt final drive.
I’m sorry your bike is not living up to your expectations. I hope you find a more suitable replacement.
Heart over head when it comes to motorcycle decisions.
Yep. Now I know! The Grom was heart over head :)
The blurred bike is suspiciously similar to the ZX-4RR anniversary edition 😁
It is 😉🤣
Loud pipes and you wear earplugs.😢😢 At least the people around you get to enjoy it... whether they want to or not.
👍🤣🤣🤣
It looks and sounds great to me. Perhaps you can buy a 2nd bike, while keeping the subject Yamaha. If you're going to be "fickle", perhaps do more research and visualization to be sure your feel/emotions will last longer. next time.
Too much Research landed me in this Yamaha.
Buyers remorse? You knew what it looked and sounded like before you bought it... so you cant throw shade on it for that... 🙅♀️
At least its a great performer, no?
You don't know what it sounds like unless you hear it in person. I didn't.
Looks were good enough but as I lived with it...good enough isn't enough.
Never threw shade on the bike: It's incredible!!! Just not for me.
What about the gsx8r? Do you think that’s more of what you are looking for?
It's possible that could be the perfect bike. Twins with 270 crank sound great, and have an addictive torque burst.
You went from a grom to mt09 lol. You get used to the wind also. What made you want this bike? Not the 3 cylinder or the nakedness?
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How about getting a Ducati Monster, great styling, has a Twin engine. Or the 2024 Husqvarna Svartpilen 801, I really dig that style. OK, i just checked, doesn't seem to be available in the US, but they have the 401
Maybe one day I'll taste a Ducati...
@KirkKreifels I just checked the new Vitpilen 401, that would be the perfect bike for me, I don't like heavy bikes and I don't need a lot of power.
4:21 Dude you need to get your ears checked if you don’t think it sounds great!! 🤣🤣🤣
That MT does nothing for me, and I’m a huge fan of naked bikes. My first one was a used ‘82 Seca 650 with shaft drive, after taking the MSF course on their Honda 250s. What about a Ducati Monster? Those are beautiful.
They are beautiful those monsters...
You do not buy this bike for looks, although it does look the business. It's the synergy of a naked fun performance bike for the road. To me there are two routes for you. A performance Ducati V4, a super model beauty, at one end of the spectrum, or a Moto Guzi at the other classic/retro characterful end, with the transverse v-twin.
Na, he wants a Kaw z4rr that screams but doesn’t go as fast. And sporty look.
Legit like your honesty
Should've gotten a Gixxer. A new gen Gixxer (GSX-8R) would be great for you.
I found my home with the speedtwin 1200
Get a Moto Guzzi or Norton Commando 961, which is the LC500 of the bike world.
Oof those are hot.
especially the Norton.
It does look like crashed and streetfightered sport bike!
Those stoopid bar end mirrors ! i hate those things with a vengeance , even in your view half the mirror is obscured by your wrists , and you have to make a determined effort to look at anything !taking your attention of the road ! ,the single most dangerous accessory you can add , put decent mirrors and it will change the look immediately ! and you put the exhaust on it , did you get it tuned to the exhaust ? doesn't sound like it !
I like the mirrors. I'm happy to swap a little visibility for aesthetics. No tune on the exhaust since at the time, there was no tune for the kelpi on the 2024 model. Vcyclenut just put up a tune for the kelpi exhaust---but I'm ready to move on. Cheers.
Swapping your MT-09 for a Ninja.... meh. Unfortunate you don't like your bike anymore, but I'd disagree on some points. The MT-09 is for the most part usable other than 6th gear.
usable torque yes. Smooth? Sound good? Look good? Comfortable? Not to me.
Give the StreetTriple 765 a try.
Very good option!!!
Try shortening the gears that might help
Ha ha you guys worry about the looks ,im having to much fun riding the bike, deadset you guys sound like Harley riders ,look at me ,look at me
Never liked the sound of a triple also.. a screaming 4cilinder is so much more engaging. Thats why i got a Z900, it looks and sounds just better. But spec wise the mt09 is way ahead.
Man, it sounds good to me.😀
Did I see a Kawasaki box?
Just buy the Kawsaki(your oh my god bike). You wont be sorry, if you want more power try the 900 Ninja.