2024 Yamaha MT-09 | Final Thoughts, Should You Buy One?
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- Опубліковано 13 чер 2024
- I've been buzzing around on the new 2024 Yamaha MT-09 for the last few weeks and its time to give my verdict. Yamaha have made some brilliant updates for 2024 but is it enough...
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Most people just can’t wait for the R9 (me included) but most people don’t realise that the MT-09 will be the more fun bike to ride & do it for longer periods 😎
Might be a long wait
don't waste your time, just get the mt
Except that the R9 will probably look 100 times better. This MT-09 is pretty ugly.
@@MrDeepseadweller Can’t buy a bike purely for its looks…Tbf this MT 09 looks better than the previous gen
@@ashwinraggs4226 Yes, I think the MT09 looks amazing! This gen is the best looking gen. The sharp angles and lines that flow from the head, onto the tank even onto the rear are great and make a connected, cohesive look that the previous generations didn't have.
I just purchased a new 2023 MT09… it’s an absolute riot for just under 11k. I’ve rode a variety of motorcycles and this is my first “light/fast” bike, and this bike is amazing for the street. Plenty of power, great handling, good aftermarket, and reliability! I honestly can’t think of a better motorcycle for your intermediate rider looking to crack up into the sub 450 pound/sub 3.5 second motorcycle. Thank you Yamaha! Fell in love with the brand because of a 1998 Yamaha virago 1100xv
Not only does the Yamaha have remarkable performance, but they throw in reliability and 26,000 mile valve service intervals. No KTMs for me.
ngl I thought about getting the new Svartpilen 801. But I've came to reason and now I'll be getting the XSR900
You just get the feeling with Yamaha that there’s deep down in the research & development team that are bats**t crazy fun but having an internal “discussion” with the marketing/finance team. Maybe the tides are shifting… great work Yamaha, and Chops. 👍👍
this bike fixed all the issues I had with the first that prevented me from buying that
Yamaha have outdone themselves, I am buying this next year for sure
Maybe they need to use the longer XSR/Tracer swingarm on the MT09 as well 🤷♂️
R9 SP, need it now
That's a proper review. A rider who can push on with the bike and give a valid verdict on the bikes ability.
I dont get why some reviewers( no names) just plod along in the rain. I mean. What is the point.
Loving that front wheel cam Chopsy!
I enjoy your videos and comments very much. As an old fellow myself, I can identify with your thoughts.
Everyone talks up SP model because of the improved suspension. Truth be known the base model can provide all the handling abilities ninety percent of riders can use. Most people in the states never really adjust the suspension and when they trade the bike it is the way it left the factory.
I have tinkered with my adjustments and found better track handling. I put it back however to the original settings as the rider’s comfort in daily use is way better than track settings.
As "20 stone fattie" you should really tweak the suspension. I've never ridden a bike that felt right for me on stock settings. I got my 2nd gen MT10 (at a great price) as I thought I'd always be looking at what I didn't have with the MT09 but this one has me reconsidering. So much fun for your money.
Yea, I thought he might have wound up the pre_load pretty much straight away at a minimum
Test rode one of these, absolutely phenomenal bike.
had the gen2 and now have a gen3, love them alot coming from GSXR's for a road bike
I have a Gen 3 SP daily driver with 30,000 Km. The engine never gets old.
Not sure where you found the weather Chopsie but great video as always! Great looking bike too 😄😄
An excellent review as usual. Well Done! from
EBC
Looks a really nice bike with a great colour. Great review, Loving the wheelie shots, Cheers.
Brilliant review mate, i tested the basic model while i wait for my SP coming, i think the SP will be on another level handling wise and i simply cannot wait to get my hands on it 😊
Yo esperando también a la Sp.Para finales de Junio.
Nice review chops. Was looking at one of these then saw the gp in the flesh nostalgia took over an ordered one.
Yes I can certainly understand that 👍
Wondering what GP is!??
Yamaha xsr900gp
@@davidmallia628 old school fairing on the XSR900
Morning chopsy im just waiting for that r9.
I have the 2021 and this is tempting but things like the seat and bars are stuff I like and prefer. Also that with everything they changed, the only parts I’d be able to switch over is the frame sliders and maybe radiator protector. I would probably hold off for the SP for the brakes and suspension. I will say the exhaust is definitely if you’re doing it for the looks. The exhaust gets louder as you break it in. I love the sound and I’m pretty sure if I knew how to mic it up and post a video riding around. Most people would probably think it’s aftermarket
Great review of a great bike, ive got the 10 but rode the 9 last week on a tour, what a bike. So different to the 10 as well
Ive just got back home after test riding one of these in the same colour. Great bit of kit. Test rode the bmw F900r shortly after as well and the Yamaha is smoother and I think more value for money. Great video chopsy!
Had the gen 3 sp and loved it,test rode a street triple rs and even though it was a fantastic bike I just found the engine lacking low and mid range punch compared to the CP3.
Went straight to the Yamaha dealer, test rode the 2024 Mt and bought it.
Unbeatable for £10 k imho.
I went to Austin for the MotoGP races in April and rented a 2018 XSR900. That engine is ADDICTIVE! While I was there, i took a test ride of a Street Triple RS. The STRS handling, brakes, and power delivery were AMAZING - the most sorted bike i’ve ridden so far. Seriously, it allowed me to do things just on a test ride that i’ve never tried before because it was so composed BUT BUT BUT I kept thinking, “This thing needs the Yamaha engine!”
@@graylunsford Love the CP3 in my XSR900 2019. Just wish I had all the modern tech to go with it.
I currently own a 3rd gen Mt09 sp. Had it for 3 years now. Short and simple absolutely incredible bike. Its a do everything bike with wheelies in-between
heard about frame cracking?
@@lolusthecat Soon to be at 20000km, no such thing. Yamahas are built right
@@rosstinelli google yamaha mt09 frame crack, its a common issue and 20kkm is not that much
@@lolusthecat bet
@@lolusthecat Any aluminum frame bike is prone to cracks when wrecked, not specific to the MT09...
Superbe vidéo merci
CAN NOT wait for the R9 and the M
Having owned one of the previous MT09 models, I can fully concur with your sentiments on this machine Chops 👍.
I can see that Yamaha has improved what was previously known as a bonkers bike.
Love it, Chops ❤😊
Had a look at the XSR 900GP and the new MT-09 at my local Yamaha dealer both machines are very nice. I was informed to wait for the R9 before making my final decision. R9 is going to be special really i am looking forward to the reveal.
I have the Z900RS for general riding but need something more tour oriented for longer stays etc.
While looking for something, i took this out as it caught my eye and it was brilliant and. For the money exceptional.. Didn't solve the storage issue though, so took the Tracer 9 GT out afterwards.
Tracer 9 it is then, never been so at one with a bike.
Sound, comfort, enjoyability..luggage and all the extras as standard with the same CP3 engine....
The RS is brilliant, now I'll have a tourer that is brilliant too, time to treat myself before i get too old..😉....
I can vouch for the MT09 ( 2024).
Its superb, but so is the Tracer 9 GT with better touring capabilities..😉👍
Looks good. 👍
Looking to get a 2024 SP.. super super excited
Nice video Chops. What’s with the cables taped up with insulation tape? Seems a level below the Triumphs in terms of build quality
👍 but more reasonably priced and probably less chance of recalls😄
I had the chance to demo one of these last week but took the XSR900GP out instead. I found that bike too uncomfortable. I wish I'd taken the MT09 out instead. For the price if it wasn't for the divisive looks which are growing on me this is probably a better machine that the Street Triple R which cost about the same but has a lot less tech on it and a Micky mouse dash taken from the 660 Tiger sport.
Looks great, but prefer the last gen headlight.
Those levers would have to go though, a nice set of EvoTech black ones would be a must!
Excellent vid as always buddy, I'd love to see a 3 way with this or the sp version and the duke 990 and the street tripple rs with you and greg, simply awesome
Will see what we can sort 👍
@@LambChopRidesmake it happen! 😎
Me too. Chuck in an 890r.
Would have to be the mt09sp to compare with the street 765 rs and 890r. They all have brembo stylema and upgraded suspension.
@@LambChopRides I'd be really hyped about comparing it to the Brutale 800 R (ideally not RR) and the Triple RS. To check which is the most fun triple! You did it once , but thats 6 years ago!
Loved that Chopsy! This is coming dangerously close to my bike of the year… Yamaha's engineers just get it
Thanks Tim! Yeah think the SP could indeed take that title... Let's see 👍
Dark side of Japan is So dark that the Designers couldnt even see the bike when they were designing it...🤣😂
Haha 🤪
I bloody love the mt09, what a fantastic bike with amazing electronics and at a great price aswell 👍
I've got the Suzuki 2024 gsxs1000 and the induction noise pisses me off tbh. Not their fault as it's the euro emissions but I can tell you it's a good job I don't have an MOT for 3 years so I can mid pipe it with an SC project end can. 🤣👍
Great video, thank you! QQ: is it even better fun than Street Triple RS?
yes
as someone who has ridden both the 24 Mt09 and the new street triple r and rs, the mt09 wins hands down
the striple only wins out on track handling and the higher rpm = higher peak power
but for the road, the mt09 easily wins out
Great review ❤. The looks are a lot better Tony Shark would approve. However the wheels would require a makeover for me . Great sound and obviously a lot of fun , as demonstrated by yourself. Looking forward to to the comparison with the KTM . Keep it black side down Chops .
@chops, I checked the MT-09 SP tricked out but didn't speak to me. being a hypermotard and duke enthusiast you probably the best and been asked a million times and yes the two are solar systems apart but im off my tuono and looking for fun no long trips just looking for fun factor.. 950 SP or SDR G 3 fully loaded , sorry to be a pain in the a>rs. your passion is respected
Absolutely love this new MT09 Apart from the Colour & like you said the exhaust is absolutely hideous & I wouldn't go for the accessory Akro I would go for the Yoshi as it looks absolutely awesome & it's sounds absolutely awesome too!!😃 Great review as ever Chops & please hurry up with the SP review hehe? As that could be my next bike depending or different reviews & my own test ride?☺️ All the best Chopsy!!👌🏻👍🏻
As soon as the sp comes chop get it on the channel I’m looking to change my tuono for one
Hopefully I'm on the SP launch 🤞
I'm awaiting the new SP and will immediately put a full exhaust system on it ❤
pro suspension tip: once the front wheel comes off the ground, you're going to lose some road feel. 😆
How does its electronics compare to the 890r and street 765rs?
Also, the same for the build quality ?
Chops, knowing you've also praised the Monster SP, which would you say you'd prefer more? I recently traded from a Multi V4 Pikes Peak to a Monster SP. Still in the break-in period so I still don't have a good feeling to how the bike performs but so far seems promising!
Should I upgrade to the MT-09 SP from a Tuono 660 factory?
I have a gen 2 09sp. I test rode the outgoing sp today as well as the 24 standard model. I had a blast on both of them. The outgoing model is great, and yamaha is doing some great deals on them right now. But i really want the 24 sp so i put my deposit down for one. Cant wait.
What deals are on the gen3 sp? In the UK
What is the price and expected arrive date of the gen4 sp?
@@chriswest2290 im in Australia so i have no clue about the UK.
@MsChrisep ohh my bad. What deals you got there?
they are great bikes loved all 19k miles i did on mine selling it now wish i had the room to keep it but only got room for one bike
after riding this would you skip it just go to MT 10 exhaust ecu flash say DONE ?? or this that good to not get MT10
Chopsey I have a 21 smcr and was looking at possibly changing for a bike that could offer as much fun but that could be more comfortable at the touring aspect. Is this the bike??
I asked a pervious gen Mt09 sp owner about the bike and how is it. He asked me what bike do I currently have I then pointed at my s1000r and he was like 😂 no need to even look at this bike stick with the s1k.
Such a humble dude. He wasn't on that I own one so it's the best bike in the world. Nothing can compare sort of mentality.
Admittedly I have a soft spot for the Mt09 however as I'm a spec snob I wouldn't buy anything but an sp though. If I was to down size this would be 1st pick followed by street triple 765 rs.
Had the triumph had the Mt09 eminge I'd pick it but I prefer the sound on the mt
Like the look of the Gen 2 best✊🔥
Could you add the Street Triple R/RS in your next comparo video? Thanks
Will see what I can sort 👍
How would you compare it to the Ktm 690 smcr?
Great review & bike. Although I'm definitely getting old as it looks like a handful & I don't want one. I can't be arsed having a wrestling match with it when I give it some beans & also having to faff about with all the electronics so I don't loop it & end up in a ditch lol. That's a bit tongue in cheek tbh as I'd more concerned about my licence.
Haha you would love it RR 🤪👍
Thanks for the review. Anyone who had a Z900 and now has the MT09 can give some pros and cons of each model?
I'm so tempted to get one, but I got a slightly used gen3 last year, so I'll just wait for the R9.
SC Project STR-1 is the perfect exhaust for the MT 09....😍😍😍😍😍
It's not for me, but a brave guess would be that this fun toy will - vastly - outsell the expectations that Yamaha have for it. The supercrisp and clear display is a really nice touch, the general behaviour looks to be able to titillate quite a few types of riders.
For your weight more preload and extra rebound damping on the rear as a minimum. The bike will be much more dynamic then.
I currently own a 2018 MT10 SP and was seriously thinking about the new MT09 SP but I am going to wait a little while because I am sure there will be a new MT10 with that same updated looks and electronic package coming out in the next year or two. I just feel I might miss the grunt of a litre CP4 engine plus I do alot of touring
I think the current Mt 10 will be around for a couple of years yet.
Test ride the new 09
@@Mike_P646 yeah i intend too mate its a cracking package altogether been on litre bikes for 30 years now and i am sure within the next 2 years there will be a new MT10 coming out out with all the new electronics and hopefully a bigger tank lol
Is it comfortable on the wet roads? I live in NI and we are practically fish over here.
A set of flat bars could go a bit to sorting the weight issue over the front. That front end though. I've no idea what Yamaha design team are smoking this past decade. Outside of the R bikes they've a face only a mother could love.
I looked hard at the MT09/XSR900 before I bought my Z900. It’s got a few more tech goodies over the Z900, but I liked the ergonomics of the Z900 more, it’s more in the bike and a little more leaned forward, more tucked. Both have more than enough power on the freeway but the Z900 definitely has a little more grunt, the power is also a little smoother. The longer swingarm on the Z900 also aids in it feeling more stable at higher speeds. The Z900 needs a tech upgrade though, the MT09 has a 6 axis IMU, cruise control and an up/down quick shifter… the tech doesn’t matter as much to me, but for some it definitely does. I also like Kawasaki’s TFT more, that’s subjective though.
For people 6 feet and higher, Z900 is no go. Ergos are for shorter people. Fair enough.
This really is the best sector for a road bike. Eveybike is this category is amazing.
This MT09 is the best value in class.
I wanted one, but the standard version is not being released in my country, and eho knows when the SP will arrive.
KTM done an awesome promo here on the 2023 but new 890r. So im waiting on delivery.
It's a tough choice with the MT09, street 765, and the 890r/990. Although the 990 is overpriced, IMO.
Getting really impatient waiting for my SP to arrive, (I ordered it over a month ago) won’t be here until the end of August, so won’t be getting it until September 😮
This or the monster?
Or the xsr900?
How would you compare it to the 990 Duke?
Good suspension and good tyres are what makes a bike great to ride. Throw in a CP3 engine and your golden. I own a first gen MT09 which I almost didn’t buy because of the terrible stock suspension. Now with Hyperpro full spec shock (slow- and high speed compression adjustability) and front springs it is one of the best bikes I’ve ridden. Not just fun but serious carving business. Just like the S23’s from the factory are not as good as the aftermarket S23’s, so is the SP’s Öhlins. The price of having aftermarket suspension set to your weight and riding style installed by a professional, is as about much as the price difference between the standard and SP version.
Do I swap my gsxs 1000 for it mines mapped..nitron shocked im really tempted
'It's an MT-09 m'lud' CASE DISMISSED!
Important question, for you! This Yamaha MT09 or Ducati Hypermotard 698 mono, for just FUN, and beating the traffic??
Great bike. I prefer the XSR900.
I've got the base Tracer 9, and I'm saving up for full Ktech suspension (about £1500) coz again........amazing all round bike, but the suspension is quite basic : a bit choppy at low speed, and lacks control when going for it on a bumpy B road
Yam are the only Japanese manufacture actually looking at the market movement. I'm sure you could dial any quibbles out of the suspension.
The duke is nearly a litre bike - can’t really call that middleweight. And it’s 3k more than the mt
And it will never have Yamaha reliability or build quality then you have to pay to unlock the tech pack on the KTM. Had a superduke before my MT10 and its night and day the build quality. My current MT10 is my 19th yamaha I just have never had aproblem withthem
Mr.Chops would you chose the new MT-09 (SP) over the new MT-10 SP as a daily? :)
Hmm tough do love the MT10... As a daily the MT09 probably makes more sense 👍
I tried to buy a new MT09 back in 2021, but couldn't due to supply problems. So glad I didn't, because I found out afterwards that the handling wasn't great on that model. Time moves on, and I'm looking for another bike and this is back on my list, but it's a pity the looks are let down by that hideous exhaust. Never mind, there's always the Yamaha MT-10 SP and a belly pan!
Nice bike to be a hooligan but the street triple is better looking especially the new baja orange and of course the carnival red and the yellow on the rs
If you manage to get on the mt09 sp launch, can you have a word about the R9 for us ? Maybe you need to put the answer in code. Something like a weather reference. Ow looks like rain later, for it's still not decided. Or suns out today, for green light we will see it this or next year. :)
I will, I've been told it's coming and I think next year. Been told it's a bit special too! 😁
@@LambChopRides Thank you.
What is the range? It only has a 14l tank and that is a serious negative point of this bike
Interesting. I'm picking mine up today, after six years on two 1290 Super Adv. I just wanted to start over, without the weight and the bulk, even though the (esp latest) SAS are really fine motorbikes. And I was never able to travel as much as I thought I would. I test rode the MT-09 a few weeks ago, and that was it. Funnily, I disagree with all the comments about the SP being worth it, and here is why. First, Yamaha is pushing so hard to make people wanting to buy the SP that there is a catch, of course. They do much more money out of the SP. Now, can you get the same quality out of a regular MT-09 and some aftermarket changes, for less money, without the scale savings? I'm convinced you can... And here is the kicker: I weigh about as much as you do, Chopsy. And the first components to tune, in the suspension department, are the SPRINGS. The SP will have better components, sure, but, as every single Japanese bike, it will be set for a 70 kg rider. Exactly the same as the regular one. So, better damping, yes. Finer control, yes. But way too soft for heavy riders anyway. And, because I know that a lot of people are confused with it, I feel the need to point out that NO, adjusting the preload doesn't change the stiffness of a spring. Those who think otherwise, ask Neevesy. My English is way too bad to do a better job than his, of explaining this. Of course, 'standard' riders will get benefits from the SP. And if they like the colour scheme (I don't), it will be worth the bonus to them. But for a heavy rider? It's a waste of money, because you will always have to respring the thing. Oh, and as for almost everybody here, from what I can read, an R9 might be my end game.
Cheers.
Looks like it ticks a lot of the boxes, and sounds like it comes fully loaded, but not sure I'm a fan of any of the 2024 colours for this bike.
The color on your demo bike in the video makes the bike look "Barbie" or "Ken".
I know it's the contemporary "in" color pallet but the bike will look dated in a few years.
Kudos to Yamaha for all the latest improvements.
It does not feel to osmall for someone your size ?? I am same size and worried about that, that after an hour, would want to jump off it
No feels OK actually 👍
❤️ MT09 ❤️
When does the SP make it to Europe? I've heard August and I've heard September and I've heard Never.
Yamaha said July / August now.. but it's definitely coming 👍
La mía tiene entrada el 30 de Agosto
Imagine a kawasaki z900rs cafe body with mto9 engine and rider aids. Perfection
Nah! you want an old 900cc engine in it, I think they deliberately make them underpowered to not compete with their own 1000cc bikes such as the eMpTy-10. My 2000 E1 ZX9r was a 144bhp 101Nm bike with a short ratio gearbox (around 75mph out of first) that done 0-60 in 3 secs stock, and was the first production bike to do a sub 10 sec quarter mile run (some of these modern 200bhp bikes that cost ridiculous money can't quite do that), and that was the heavy 98-99 C models, the E and F models are so much better with lots of changes all over.
With some tuning and mods and replacing the very heavy original exhaust, my ZX9r no doubt accelerates just as quick if not quicker than an H2 to 100mph+, top speed is a fair bit lower around 175mph, but how often do we need even that, and that bike cost me only £2400 three years ago. It is so scary I barely use first gear since I made quite a lot of changes 😂
Hate sitting upright, wind blows u backwards, the buffeting is horrendous and my back start to get tired after a while. being slightly tilted forward like on the old Ducati streetfighter, new streetfighters at least is a must as it actually helps u when u travel long because the wind will lift u up instead of fight u.
have the ktm 950sm and I hate the seating position. Think the new mt09 looks nice comapred to the old one, especially the frame but it kinda looks budget:ish somehow. Almost like it looks like a stamped steel frame that is welded together instead of alu twinspar/deltabox frame. But the bike is so fun, my d675 and my friend st765 felt pure ZzZzZz engine wise compared to this(gen 1 mt09)
I had a 2017 MT09, and just picked up the 24.... Theres a lot to like about the new one but in some ways its worse. The throttle feels worse, and 2nd has been neutered in a silly way. I can only assume this was for emissions shenanigans. I enjoy some of the new electronics but throttle mapping is not this bikes strong suit.
Many reviewers of the latest gen bike create the impression that the previous gen was reasonably flawed. I feel that in the case of the MT09, other than the looks, the criticisms are mostly personal preference and in some cases ignorance (i.e. they just didn't realise that gen 3 also has the feature. E.g. range & fuel consumption). The heart of the bike is the engine, gearbox, chassis and electronics, and nothing has changed on that front. The rider triangle is adjustable on both bike's and the new version just uses the alternative position for the foot pegs and handle bars. The only functional difference is the addition of the maps. While maps are cool they are not really necessary on a sports bike. If you are going touring and needs the maps maybe the Tracer is for you.
Hey, I just got my MT-09 last week and I'm still breaking it in (760km/470mi). Did you (or anyone else) noticed a slight clacking or rattle sound from the engine if you coldstart your bike? It really only epears if the bike is cold and disapears after just a few secounds... I read in forums that's normal because the oil pressure has to build up, but I still feel insecure... I will visit my dealer next week anyway...
If you pull the clutch in does the noise go away. If yes, no concern. If no, perhaps book it in to be checked out.
Agreed... noticeable change in sound on my mt-09 with the clutch in or out.
Sounds like fun, still a way to go to fix the ugly though.
Modern day 350 LC .just don't see that many MT09'S about
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Make sure the item isn't already on offer and it's over £50.. Still not working let me know and I will have a word 👍
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Wow all that for £10k, Thanks for that John 👍
Yeah bargain Brian 👍
I actually like the cyclops eye haha, no complaint, been riding the 22 version since mid 22, fantastic, only possible complaint is that its not a MT10. And ohh no you changed your intro! I liked that old ones musical
More aggressive than 1 to 1. So effectively, a quick action throttle.