AMD's RX 7900 is ACTUALLY a great deal!
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- Опубліковано 31 тра 2024
- AMD has made some serious adjustments to their GPU pricing and added the new 7900 GRE to their lineup which means big trouble for NVIDIA and the RTX 4070!
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Just a quick correction, the 7800XT debuted at $499 not $599 and i misspoke about the 4080D when it was a 4090D. Regardless of the misspeaks the charts still show a huge value for this card! Sorry for the numbering mistakes!
green for nvidias, red for amd and yellow for the Gre, just a recommendation
The million $ question in the holy books of Gaming ... Can it Run crysis ?
@JayzTwoCents: You're getting up there so your "misspoke" may be age related. ;) Welcome to AARP!
@@DIYTech21my gt630 ran crysis 2 on 20fps lol, good times
Wish these prices we similar in sweden, but they're waaay off. Oh well i've been getting used to it by now.
So many good value cards, are terrible value here. And the cards that should be good value cards, are overpriced. We never woke up from the covid/crypto era. :|
One thing no one ever seems to mention is with Nivida's 4000 series you either have to buy a new PSU that comes with the 12VHPWR cable or use the 12VHPWR adaptor to power the card, if the card even comes with an included adaptor. Whereas the AMD cards still use 8 pin and don't catch fire unlike the 12VHPWR cable.
Yeah but that’s also condensed to just a percentage of 4090s each month
Tons of people mention the inconvenience of using the 12VHPWR cable/adapter. Yes, it has real issues, but there is no situation where you have to buy an entirely new PSU solely to power the GPU.
Up to the 4070 you can get a regular 8 pin model, use the adapter that comes free with _all_ 12VHPWR GPUs, buy a separate 12VHPWR cable compatible with any PSU, or choose an ATX 5.0 PSU in the case that you need a new PSU for your upgrade regardless.
Thanks for reminding me. I totally forget that’s the case. I’m glad there’s the option.
@@H.S03not true, if you don't have the right voltage/wattage cables you can have issues.
@@BeyondReasonableClout To specify, you can buy a 12VHPWR cable compatible with any PSU realistically used for a high tier GPU like this because there are multiple cable types, for multiple types of PSU.
The cable you need is listed on the PSU product info page. All you do is match the pin-out on your PSU to the 12VHPWR, and you can use that cable. So a compatible 12VHPWR cable exists for most PSUs, which is why I said it’s compatible with “all” as a general statement. Could have worded it better, but the overall point still stands.
can we please have chapter breakouts for these videos so we can reference stats later?? especially for reviews, it really helps when we want to reference performance from you!
Your eyes will never notice the difference in the stats anyway, that's why y'all want benchmarks so much.
@@barfo281 Quantifying specifications and performance is detrimental to any informed consumer, on any costly product.
@@goofballbiscuits3647 Unless you're running a rig with the same exact parts/specs as their test rig, the benchmarks are essentially meaningless, because you won't see the same numbers on your system.
And as I said, your eyes won't notice the difference alone.
Hardware Unboxed tested a 7900GRE card (twice) and didn't come to the same conclusion as this video (either time). It's all subjective. And of course, they tested a different brand GRE card, and their test rig had different specs, and they compared it to some different brands of 7800XT/7900XT cards, among others..
Use a drop down and just select nvidia problem solved
@@barfo281 If you didn't test your equipment, you don't know; you believe. Beliefs have no place in computer science.
If you add a vertical line to show where the centre card lands next to the others, it's more clear than just having them next to each other on the same chart.
Keep the centre card and it being a completely different colour, that's great and really visible :)
+1 on the vertical line only at 1440p. That way, it doesn't feel like a crossword puzzle.
I love the older generations being on these charts cause it allows us with older cards to know much better where we stand and weather or not we should consider upgrading.
I agree a popular and relevant older card should be on the list since it's very likely the masses out there are still using them. While I have newer cards the one in the system i use daily is a 3060TI. When I eventually see a massive performance gain over it (2-3-400%) i'll be going hmm.. maybe it's time for a upgrade.
@@ChiBrianXIII so right, kinda mad at myself about this now lol
@@SonicAngel2020 edit it homie, lol. Usually I don’t auto correct someone, but I fully agree, but damn this killed me a bit and I’m looking out for you 😂😂😂😂. I’ll delete my comment prior though so I don’t get flamed
@@ChiBrianXIII not gonna delete it, I own up to my shit! 😂
Kinda sad u deleted it tho
@@SonicAngel2020 mofo, lol. I’m doing it because im a nice guy. What GPU you running right now anyway?
Jay, the chart presentationw as really useful. Nice work!
Data analyst here 4:44 give your self some credit Jay, these visuals are pretty easy to digest. Your excel skills are above par with what we’d expect here in the corporate world!!!
Hi Jay and team. The 7900 GRE Uses the bga and substrate of the Navi 32 die. (7700/7800). Hence the 90 degree offset silicon.
What offset? If they appear rotated that's down to web design
It's a Navi 31 chip, can't use another substrate. The Navi 32 substrate also has SMTs and SMDs on the upper part. It's not rotated 90 degrees, it's just how that picture was taken.
@@ReHWolutionit can use the same designated substrate, or well at least structure of Navi 32. This is one of the biggest reasons AMD went with chiplets, they can flip things around and create interesting products with far less R&D. RX 7900 GRE is basically a 7800 XT with crappier vram but a navi 31 gcd slapped in there.
@@roundduckkirathat's not how it works. Substrates are made for specific chips for a reason, and that is saving cost. It's nonsense using a more expensive substrate for a lower tier chip. In this case, being a Navi 31 XL chip, it cannot use a Navi 32 substrate, as the Navi 32 substrate doesn't have the same internal layout as the Navi 31 substrate. A substrate isn't just a piece of square silicon. It's a PCB interposer that manages all the electrical connections between a chip and the main PCB. A Navi 31 GCD is 50% bigger than a Navi 32 GCD, with way more electrical connections than a Navi 32 GCD. It would also defy the main purpose of the 7900 GRE/N31XL: saving money on defective Navi 31 chips. What's the point of re-using defective chips if you then have to engineer a different way to connect it to a PCB?
@@ReHWolution not if it's designed to be that flexible right off the bat, which is how it's been done with the Zen 2-4 eras of layouts where one normal chiplet can get replaced by an x3d chiplet or zen 2 and 3 can reuse I/O chiplets.
You mentioned something that sparked a thought in my head about the charting.
Part of what I’d be looking for is a price to performance comparison at the point in time when you are doing the review. And something that could point me to the closest comparisons both in price and performance.
As an example if the chart was a graph centered on the card being reviewed and the x-axis was performance and the y-axis was price then plot the closest cards around it?
So top right is the faster but more expensive, and bottom left is slower but less expensive. And when you see stuff in the top left those are the cards that look way worse, and bottom right are the cards that are recommended instead of the card in the center?
Also I am not sure if there could be a shorthand way to include benchmark date, benchmark build version, gpu driver version, and windows version, and card cost at the time of running. As those are metrics that might be interesting to see if all runs over time increase in speed and it could be one of those other items that is doing it. Even an identifier that counted up whenever one of those variables changed so you could see if any two runs were at the same time and the other environment variables were the same?
I like the layout you've gone with having the review card in the #5 spot of 9 cards. The only addition I would like is to have the MSRP next to the cards names. I'm hearing you reference the MSRP difference between the cards, but it would be nice to be able to see it also.
Finally ONE reviewer of them all that include 3090. You really are needed in Tech space Jay. Never change. Thanks!
12:00 jay, ty for the new method of drawing a circle around the card and showing which cards land and where. it is MUCH better than the old way, im sorry because it seems like ALOT of extra work for you...
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Like the "Middle" concept for the comparisons. Thought it worked very well.
I grabbed a used 6800xt for $320 and scored a brand new EK block and backplate for $90. Has been a killer card for 1440p 144hz.
i got a 6950 last year for 600, this is about the same performance with lower wattage, but i dont see any reason to upgrade. probly wont til hopefully 9000 series
@@bradhaines3142 I got lucky with mine and it's been a great overclocking card too so underwater I'm getting some amazing performance for $400ish. If I ever jump to 4k 144hz I might upgrade but otherwise I'm gonna rock this thing for a while
I have the 6700 XT Red Devil which I got new at the end of last year for £430 and I have to say that I haven't been disappointed with it.
@@terminusaquo1980 I have a 6700xt before my 6800xt. It ran everything just fine at 1440p but I was wanted to do another custom loop so figured I should do a little upgrade before putting a block on
6800xt is even a beast at 4K I run a 6800 at 4K with no problem
I really loved that you included less. So many have so much data on the page and then rush through it. This was nice to see where the "comparatives" are. Maybe if you categorized instead by all within a similar price range, that would have been even nicer. Like "all cards thing $100 of this card" type of deal. And the colors didn't bother me, but I'm not colorblind so I can't speak to that.
This was a great vid, I love the way the data is stacked up so you can see the performance and just the cost of similar cards. It would be cool if you included the lowest price available as of the time the video was posted maybe.
I'm happy that you sorted the graphs for 1440p resolution - I feel like far too many reviewers STILL put entirely too much focus on 1080p results, when it's been long enough and cards have gotten good enough that 1080p shouldn't be the benchmark any longer. It doesn't really tell you much of anything any more - and in my opinion hasn't for quite some time. Especially considering 4K resolution is something manufacturers are targeting more and more these days, really 1440p should be the new minimum standard that everyone should be working at to get as good as current 1080p performance/quality is now at.
I very much agree w/ you.
A fair take. I mean, plenty of ppl do still use 1080p to game but if a benchmark reads 150 fps for 1440p you can get a good enough idea that the 1080p perf is going to be more than 99% of ppl will need or be able to make use of.
Otoh, me maining 3440x1440 I always find myself having to guess an approximate between 1440p and 4K (is that halfway between the two, 2/3's the way etc) which I'm kind of used to by now but it's still a little annoying.
The chart format is good to show that specific cards relative performance, and where it lands.
But what I like with "conventional" charts that have the same cards on every page is that you can use them for comparing the performance of the the other cards as well, and not just the one being reviewed.
I use that quite often by looking up reviews of a newer card than the one im interested in. That way I can see how it performs against a card that wasn't available when it was reviewed first.
yeah, the idea of the relative performance is great but the closest rival in price card needs to be on the chart. Whether its lower than the last card or higher the fastest card. Its the competitor
The best visual thing that could be added to help the viewer is to have the one your talking about highlighted with the one you're comparing it to so we can follow along much easier as the video continues.
I really like these charts and having the card (item) you are focusing on locked in the middle and a very different color>
Keep up the good work Jay (and team)
1:28 7800xt launched at $499, not $599
I swear this channel is going down hill. It's all over the place
@@emmabentley7945 im sure jay is more concerned about his health rather than the channel
@@SkoomaChugger yeah but that doesn't excuse letting shit content through. He has two employees who are very smart and capable, they can absolutely be proof reading/watching. And if they aren't enough he could absolutely hire a third person to check over stuff.
I mean look at the ram video, that was such a bad video. How that ever made it out of the studio boggles my mind
@@BigMan7o0 not really shit content its still informative, and if you guys think you know everything then why watch? hmmm?
@@emmabentley7945 that hair line is all over the place
You saved me! I just ordered a 7800 XT and I didn't know about the existence of this 7900 GRE. Where I live, it's slightly more expensive and I can afford it. Thanks!
Hey Jay, have you found that 12hvpwr connectors cause whine either on the card end or the psu end? I have a system that was super quiet when using a 3070, but tried various 40 series and they’re all noisy from a whine perspective on one end or the other.
And that just solidifies my GPU Choice... Was waiting to see if you would do a GRE review....Hellhound is 579 on Newegg right now. Sapphire Pulse is 549...Waiting for a call back from power color on if they have a Red Devil GRE coming out
I personally like the color shift
4070 super is the best card on the market for value right now.
Power consumption is of no concern but performance/$ is
i ordered the steel legend rx 7900 gre, my 1st AMD card, i went with it over the 4070 super because of the 16gb of V-ram & i don't care for ray tracing at all. Just tired of Nvidia right now, gonna dabble in team red for a bit until they release an "affordable" card that has more than 12gb of V-ram.
@robertkirk9631 the vram ram argument is moot considering the 12gb nvidia card has higher 1% lows than 16gb amd cards and can outperform with less vram. But you do you. The amd cards below the 7900xt are a waste of money
@@iequalsnoobdepends on your use case i suppose. Atleast i get good linux support with amd.
im also done with nvidia, i already hovered over the buy button on the 7800 so this is very very welcome to have the 7900gre
Love to see a Video about solo Streaming PC and Duel PC streaming with some data on whats the best build for both
It's great that you're expanding your visuals. More ways of presenting data is better for everyone involved :)
I like the static placement for the card under review, it helps massively. In the future, an option to consider may be a couple Static card placements, such as current gen competitor, previous gen card at this price point right below, all the time. Maybe silicon manufacturer color for the primary 3 cards, and lighter shades for others on the chart? and the graph bars can fill transparent to opaque.
Also, I've worked making Excel plots excessively. I'd love to get my hands on a sample data set to present some options, then you can just copy your preference :)
We live in a world where a $550 card could be considered very good value😢
Inflation innit 😩
@@junko4166inflation this inflation that. It's always inflation.
And in 1937 a dozen eggs cost 37 cents and $2.51 in 2023.
@@brodriguez11000
What was the price of a decent graphics card in 1937? 😂
GPU prices are just insane now. But on the bright side the lower these new cards get the lower the previous gen GPUs get. Now you can find a 3070 or 6700XT for around $280 which are still amazing 1440p gaming GPUs
Hey Jay, the hellhound isn't MSRP. It's $580. Also I like the style of charts you used in this video. 👍
even so, it really doesnt change anything... its still cheaper then 7800xt launch price and cheaper then 4070
@@aiwoor The launch price of the 7800xt is $500.
@@aiwoor 7800xt launched at 499, idk what you are smoking.
@@aiwoor 7800 xt at launch was 499 wasn't it?
In theory you couldn't ever find it at 499
Set location for card reviewed is great. Making it a different color or outlined would make it stand out. Knowing which cards fall in that range is quite informative for me. It tells what other options you have if you don't choose that card.
Love the method. Keep it up mote informative
The only reason people are jaded and don't care about cards is because the 2 big card companies making them have been pissing on their customers for so long.
You only say that you are very young and do not really know hardware history...
@@TriggernlfrlLOL, ok hardware guru! Yeah, my first dedicated video card was only the 3Dfx Voodoo 2. I've only built my own PCs since 1994, and my first PC was the C64, so I probably don't know the complete history of PCs. Maybe you "really" know hardware history, but what I'm talking about here is the current sentiment a lot of PC gamers have toward AMD and NVIDIA that's been continuously reinforced for the past 5 - 10 years. Maybe you're a crypto miner, and don't see things the same way, but historically speaking gamers were the original core customer base for this hardware, and these days they're an afterthought at best.
one thing I think a lot of people may enjoy seeing, is talking the average scores of all the FPS tests and then dividing that by the MSRP giving us a FPS per $1. So you would see something like:
3080Ti 1080p (avg): 156 @ $2.50/FPS
7950XT 1080p (avg): 230 @ $0.75/FPS
etc.
It would really hammer home the actual "Value" of the card. PS - as a data guy, I would have so much fun with your charts! I love paying with them, it is my job too.
I always thought that was a great metric on a comparison chart!
@@volkskrieg8735 I think he means the 7900XTX lol
@@volkskrieg8735 not if he thinks the 7900XTX should've been called the 7950XT
The trouble with $/fps charts is that you could get budget cards outranking flagship cards on the table, so that could be confusing to some people without proper explanation.
it gets messy quickly as you would also have do charts with power consumption and power consumption depending on energy prices like gamers nexus did in video about CPU efficiency.
Theres wild differences nowadays like 4080 vs 7900XTX can be 200w difference in really extreme and rare scenarios (low demanding games like ow2)
Nice work Jay! I like the way you presented this. I'm still curious as to how Battlemage will compare to these other offerings as it will make my decision more complete! I'm still running an ARC A770 16gb card and no issues at all. Price to performance is still important to me since I'm on fixed Income. It may not be so with others but I'm looking at 1080p cards only.
BTW your graphing is just fine with me! Many Thanks!!!
Like the graphs. Having the 4 above and 4 below makes it super easy to see how the performance lands. Nice job.
Can we just all agree that the best graphics card right now for a gamer for price is 6950xt.
I would say yes, and upfront its pretty good.
However, if you add in energy bills over its lifetime, it will hurt your wallet pretty bad
Got mine about a year ago, very happy with it.
Yep 6950 is it
It was. Not now.
I almost got one but got the saphire plus nitro 7900 xtx for $800 on sale
1080p is irrelevant at the price - I'd recommend simply dropping that resolution.
I recommend that he not. I bought a 7800XT specifically to try to max gains at 1080p from my old 5700XT. 7700XT didn't have enough VRAM for the period of time I need this for. 7600XT was too slow. I already push 12+ gigs of VRAM on this card on DX11 games from 2020 with no raytracing. How about he just drop what you're buying for instead?🤷♂You seem to have your hands full trying to screw actual buyers like me over to use this presented data lmao.
Clearly you're not aware of the 300+ hz 1080p display...
I like how you did the graphs to compare the different cards. I want to see how it compares to the cards around it. I like it big help and allows be to know what to get.
I would love to have seen a link to Phil's video about DLSS 3 and FSR affect performance that you mentioned since I can't find it. But thank you for this video, loved it.
Would love to have one or two of the lower end cards on there 2000, 3000, from Nvidia, and 5000 series from AMD. They don't need to be discussed at all but it gives those that are still holding out in that category to see the difference from what they are using to what is being shown. We all know they are upgrades, but just how big and where that point is that you just really need to finally make a move is super helpful.
I think that your chart idea that you're using is actually really great. It keeps things relevant. The one thing that I would change about it is that I would add pricing to each card to really show how good (or bad) the value of the card being reviewed is.
As someone who got the 7900 XT w/ the Starfield bundle when it launched, (which dropped the price tag to effective $650 for the GPU), it's nice to see the 7900 XT hold up in charts. I was able to get the price tag so low because I traded the game to a friend of mine since he wanted it anyway and while I'm sure I won't get such a good deal every time, it's good to take advantage of such a chance when it comes up.
I've observed that the gaps close significantly during 4K..
I liked the way you did this, what would be cool, is to transition/flick out the stuff below, moving the in focus card to the top, expanding underneath with data from 8 x cards that ppl might currently be on, maybe significant entries from prior generations, to convey whether it might be the right time to upgrade.
Interesting card. Nice review, I like how you displayed the benchmarks.
excellant video Jay !!!!! Question running at 5800x rite now with a 6800 gpu, dont upgrade to a 7000 gpu unless i update my cpu?? will i have problems with bottleneck?? again thanks great video
Love your teams work!
I like the data charts from a price to performance standpoint. Only thing I would do (aside from the color scheme lol) is to maybe add a price-point in there somewhere, so we can see at a glance, what each card is valued at.
Something Ive seen on other videos that I like to see in statistical videos is highlighting the graphs that are being talked about in some form of manner, whether it be a red border line box or blurring out the other lines slightly to make it more clear whats being talked about, I like the idea of change of colors.
Just something I noticed I like seeing and maybe might help out others as well. Kinda liking what im seeing from this Card myself but still think I might upgrade to 4080 Super from my 2080ti
I like the chart Jay, specifically shows where the one you’re reviewing is and makes it clear, and is also different from others. Also glad to see you doing ok so far.
I like the setup you did with the charts, giving a snapshot reference for what it compares against.
Hope the color choices improve.
Outside the colors (that can't matter less to me, haha), I like the approach of "+/-4 cards to the current one" on the new charts.
Cards that appear on a chart but no on the other can be somewhat calculated and that way we have more info without filling the screen.
I like the way you presented the data in this video. I think it is way more usefull than the usual comparison to the top dog GPU.
The charts are good.
Maybe stack them by performance (from worse to better) and put the 1% and 0.1% lows on the charts (I think the 1% low is very important).
Also, is good to see several GPU's compared on the charts, it's easy to have a good look on the options this way.
need noise and some media workflow benchmarks for editors. also power draw per frame or how ever you could calculate that
CGA color palette chart . Feeling nostalgic :-)
Hey Jay, I hope you're doing well. Id like to see the game mw3 or warzone included in the benchmarks. Thanks for all you do!
hi jayztwoceents, love youre videos, please always make youre charts money wise listed, cheapest down , highest cost up
Where’s the 7800xt 4K fps bar ? The colours aren’t bad though just the 4K purple is a bit dark and obviously darker on the 7800xt 😅
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I like how you've set up the data here. Finding what is closest and what is above and below it at the price point matters more in trying to pick a card than comparing each card to the greatest each side has to offer every time. Knowing it's th emiddle of the pack of data means I don't have to constantly figure where it's being put and keeping the RT without AI boosted features is a great way to show the real value of the raw potential of the card outside of the software. I'm actually liking the charts as they are now.
JAY! I need your help! I'm running an AMD 3700x and a MSI 5600xt. I love to play BeamNG and I used it for video editing. I'll get green screen crashes when playing BeamNG anytime I overclock. And I get 40-60 fps, with moderate settings. Im not ready to upgrade to AM5 yet. Would I be better off upgrading to a 6950xt vs the 7800 gre? Also any other options in upgrading or should I just save enough to build an am5 machine??? Thanks Jay! And Phil and Nick ❤
Great video and great charts!
Other than the colour change, I think having the RRP at launch on each card would be beneficial. As it is difficult to remember the prices for multiple generations at launch. And that way (to me at least) it would show how close the tested card is to other price ranges since the charts are not organised by price now. Hope that makes sense.
Agree 100%
The new Avatar Frontiers of pandora has a pretty awesome benching suite. Nice modern and pretty hard to run game as well. Should hold up the the future quite nicely.
So it would be awesome to see that included!
Thanks for all your hide work. Wishing you good health 😊
Awesome video, just change the colors on the charts and you are golden!
For chart data I would enjoy a higher outlier to see what can you get if you spend much more (a tier or two or maxed out in gen). Plus a low outlier like what if you spent much less than this card (a tier or two, or weakest in gen). It's also nice to see the previous generation or two models to see if it's time to upgrade yet. Obviously the closest competition too like what you showed in today's video.
Great video!!! Could you include benchmarks on games such as: Call of Duty, Destiny 2, Starfield, and Apex Legends.
is it offset by 90 degrees??? Looks like the orientation triangle/corner is rotated by 90 degrees....
A nice addition to your grafts would be the inclusion of the MSRP for each card listed next to the name. It would give a better indication of performance to price.
Love this format and the rationale! Might also be helpful to include the price of the cards to make the $$:performance ratio more clear.
maybe try a plotted point chart? price across the bottom, fps up the side, plot the cards using different color dots for different resolutions/brands. for example, shades of green/red for nvidia/amd, light or pastel color for 1080p, normal/darker color for 1440p, neon for 4k. or something like that. and then a special color variation for the featured card. idk, just spit-balling an idea.
For me the ideal way to do "price based" benchmarks like this one is to do the model above & model below & equivalent from the other company (or 2) with maybe a further lower and/or higher tier card for scaling.
The 7900GRE was available in OEM form in Australia & in a few EU countries in DIY form at a ~$649 price so to me the $549 is a price cut & relaunch.
I love the new background chart style!
My 7900 GRE just came in yesterday, loving it so far. Upgraded from an XFX 5700 to this XFX 7900 GRE
this will be a huge upgrade from my 6700xt. One thing I'd love from the graphics card videos so I do not have to hop around from content creator to content creator is at the low end what cpu's won't bottleneck it. going from low to high, idk for me maybe others I try to go mid to high tier every 2-4 years but CPU tends to be every 5 years or so for an upgrade unless necessary. Im running a Ryzen 7 5700x currently because i have AMD AM4 X570 ATX gaming motherboard. Or maybe i just need to research more to fully understand myself where the bottlenecks happen, idk. just a thought
AMD gpus will do better compared to nvidia when cpu bottlenecked since they have a hardware scheduler while nvidia does it on the CPU. A 5700x will do just fine, but a 5800x3d would be a nice upgrade especially with a faster card.
Would u say a R9 5900x with a RX 7900 GRE would do good?
@@PineyJustice
Hey Jay, I have a question. When is the time to change the terminal paste from the graphics card?
Some change it after every 5 years.
nice to see jay bringing in some data in a style closer to what steve does
Thanks for the review!
Hope your health is improving Jay! Love this video, with all colors!
I like just having 9 GPU's in the graphs. Some channels clutter their charts with dozens of devices which makes them really hard for me to follow.
u can still pause the video. lol.
i mean, only showing comparable devices is definitely gave better picture than lots of GPUs that are either too high or low the stack to the reviewed product.
@@alrecks619 sometimes people want older stuff on the charts to figure out how much of an upgrade the reviewed part would be to what they have now. It's not just about what a part is competing with.
Other than the jarring colors this chart style makes the most sense in presenting the performance differences.
@@chaon93 For anyone upgrading it would not make any sense to upgrade from a 6800 XT to this GRE...however if you had a 5700 XT then this card would be a great upgrade even though you are spending $100 more than the MSRP of the 5700 XT was. So for $100 higher MSRP you more than double your performance since the 7900 GRE is 221% faster than the 5700 XT. This makes no sense for anyone with a 6700 or 6800 XT as an upgrade. As hardware unboxed found most people upgrade every 2-3 generations. I have a GTX `080 so once the 6900 XT drops to around $250 I will upgrade.
Like the charts. Thanks Jay!
Hi Jay, love your channel for quite a while now.
One comment I want to make is that it'd be better if you include 1 & 0.1% lows in these graphs, superimposed on the avg. fps bars if you don't want too much clutter.
I'm aware that you always say that your channel is more for the "average consumer" and not too deep or hardcore like GamersNexus or the like, but I feel like this is a simple enough of an addition that doesn't detract away from the main theme of your channel, but offers far greater comparisons of the graphics cards' performance.
I recall even you yourself stated before on your channel in some videos that average fps is misleading in situations like this, since the lows are the ones that really become noticeable and affect the quality of the experience of the gameplay. It would be nice to add them to give a more round idea of the performance, with (what I imagine to be) very little extra work.
Cheers, and keep on the good work!
Port Royale can vary quite a bit card by card. And FYI a 4090 does between 23000 with UV below 300W and 26000 with OC, the Stock average is between 24000-25000.
Nice video. Make the background color black and swap the 1080p and 1440p colors and the vidwo would be really nice
Love the charts that allow to see performance of closely matched cards. Might be cool to have the charts show the price cost of cards on the charts as it will add price performance
thanks for the video Jay, only 1 thing to further improve: put the settings into the chart in case of "abuse" of these charts.
I like the method used for the grahing
I like the 3 separate bars for averages of each resolution, but I'd like if there was a 1% low indicated on each bar as well. I value stability as much as raw performance.
woulnd it be also an idea to everytime include the predecessor of the card in this case the 7800xt into every chart ? i missed it in shadow of tomb raider no rt for example
if you drop the 1080p bars, you could fit another one or two models on either side, which given the estimate spreads would be beneficial
Im diggin the pink/blue/purple retro synthwave vibe!
Probably try the psychology of colors wheel for color selection and make your adjustments there?
i need your help to build a pc for editing. What do you recommend maybe build one on the channel.
Any thoughts on putting some kind of card "price" inside the bars for each card?
I just got it and use it for my HX99G (minisforum mini pc) with the Razer Core X Chroma. Mainly because it has that lower memory bus, lower wattage, and fit perfectly. Got a 17000 time spy score and can play games at 4k medium-high
Im so glad you're comparing cards within their "skill bracket" so to speak. Now it's not just a chart showing us how poor we are and how good the most expensive card is by comparison. You held my attention with these comparisons much longer and I appreciate the value that brings to the channel
Exactly, no one else really focuses on this 💯💯
Love the chart colors!
It would be nice to have more fixed reference points in the charts. So in this instance you could keep the GRE in the middle, then choose a card to always keep at the bottom and one one at the top, or just 2 other “reference” cards that are important for the comparison and that would help the viewer follow along the various tests
What would be nice is to have a data set with the AVG of all the tests.
I think most of us use the cards in multiple different applications. Each test will test a slightly different way the card will run. This is why I am asking for an average data set.
This way we can a better idea of how the card will work at a glance without having to look up every single test that was run on the card then comparing them to the other cards.
Went for this gpu with a ryzen 7700x.Great performance!