I don't think they care. I think they're okay with cards that cost $200 more than the AMD equivalent, just because DLSS is marginally better than FSR despite being new software that don't generally make a difference.
@@StealthGunRunner They will care once the GPU prices get very high $4k+ for a xx90 $2k for a xx80 they will cry because that will go up and they could release updates to make the old GPUs run worse you know what I think this is what it will take...
And what you are not comprehending is that if the people stop buying new GPUs, the game devs will be forced to optimise the games for wider audience, so people will not need new cards anyway. That's what happened when the AMD FX CPUs failed, so Intel had monopoly.
It's not anybody's responsibility to buy something just to fill a company's market share lol. Just gotta buy whatever fits your use case, in which case it's more a responsibility to smarten up and/or educate the ones who buy a 3050 for brand recognition when they could be buying an amd instead.
It’s already really bad. Like we all know the 4090 costing a full gaming setup with mouse keyboard 7600 and a 7800xt (2080 euros in France) which is absolutely ridiculous
@@korinogaro I just go with older gen amd parts. But consoles are so easy to manage. No checking if this is the best part, no checking if it’s overpriced, if it lasts good, etc. You just buy the console and that’s it.
@@Crazzzycarrot-qo5wr yet I'd rather invest more of my time on Linux rather than giving away everything I do on my pc. I'm not even selling my data, that'd be cool, It's just stolen from me.
The funny thing is that AMD graphics cards seem to last longer, leading to more second hand sales. Honestly a rx 5700xt is about £200 second hand and are enough for almost all games (only one I've not been able to run is metro exodus enhanced edition, despite baldurs gate 3, fortnite, COD etc working) The 6700 xt is more than enough and solves a lot of the heat issues the 5700xt had. And because of this good value and lasting longer as second hand means you'll see less new cards being sold.
@@ImJustSomeoneNamedLucas I would, but I usually either play BG3, warthunder, crossout or enlisted. So most of them need my card to be at that higher power (especially BG3 and warthunder)
@@ImJustSomeoneNamedLucas WT On lower graphics settings maybe, but I have everything turned up lmao. So self inflicted in know, but damn it I want me tonk pretty 🤣 The 5700xt is, I believe, the "recommended" card for BG3.
Correction. companies that build pre-builds and large scale integrators like Dell don't buy AMD. In the case of Dell and HP they get huge discounts from Nvidia.
At that point it seems it's the failure of the amd marketing department. Sometimes the winner in a company battle isn't the one who has the better product but one who is able to market and get the right connection.
@@MasterInDiguise i see what you mean, but you'd hope people would look past the namesake for the price 2 performance. it's strange. AMD cards are SO cheap for their performance.
sounds like a monopoly suit. Seriously this is pretty cut and dry an easy lawsuit. People will complain about the monopoly soon enough, and im pretty sure it would be favorable to deal with it
Just isn't true though is it, go to steams hardware charts. Reported hardware the 7900xtx is the only AMD card that comes in the top 10. Gamers also chose Nvidia.
True, imagine the next-gen 60 class cards costs more than the 4060 while having barely any performance gain and it'll probably rely massively on AI to function properly.
Nah, they should leave for a year or 2 and heavily refine their GPU performance behind closed doors. Then right when Nvidia jacks up their prices. AMD can return like the shining knights they are.
@@jamestaylor9887 I meant permanently. The AMD gpus are getting better significantly. The 8000 series is gonna have a massive boost in rt performance according to leaks
@@medraut6599 But even with intel, they still sell gpus for a healthy kidney, if amd dissapeared they'd just be selling their gpus for fucking healthy brains for scientific studies
@Messup7654 Nvidia is a more recognizable brand, which is why it sells. 7900GRE outperforms its price competitors in all benchmarks. There are reasons to buy an Nvidia gpu, but writing off AMD because it doesn't sell as well is silly. Can we not think for ourselves?
I want to get a 7800xt, already sold my 3070 and not sure if I should wait for January where the new GPUs are rumored to release. I'm getting the 7800xt no matter what the 8000 series brings so it's just about the price drop when they release. I'd appreciate some outside perspective: should I wait a few months or buy it now?
@@Messup7654there is likely no reason for you to actually buy nvidia compared to AMD I mean the differences between them are minimal and you lie,li don’t edit using da Vinci or adobe so you don’t need those encoders so calling a gpu bad because of its sales being lower and not having techtokers raving about it 24/7 doesn’t mean anything
@@HACPOA-001Nvidia is good, but AMD price to performance is crazy. You can find AMD GPUs for a lower price and they will usually have more vram and perform better, and this happens like 70% of the time.
Next time Nvidia release a gpu with absurd pricing, you know who's to blame, we just can't stop buying team green despite AMD having the better value 😂
@@El-Leon-VLLCexcept in this case Nvidia does actually make the best graphics card. When AMD actually makes a card to compete with top of the line Nvidia GPUs then this comparison will be more true.
@christiandaniels8045 i get what you mean, the 4090 is the best without any question, but i doubt the majority of people that buys nvidia, the majority of the graphics sold are in the lower range in which AMD do compete heavily.... so i dont think having the best GPU is the real problem.
Had a Radeon four dell inspiron that I used to jam out with WCIII on, that is where my love for AMD started, was a console guy for the longest time, but now? It’s high time I build my first desktop. AMD 5 7500f and a RX 7600xt is what I believe I am going with
The thing with AMD GPUs here at Malaysia is that it’s impossible to get one. Most gaming stores here will only offer Nvidia and Intel(somehow) cards only
@@nimaarg3066 Yeah that's why my AMD friends experience driver timeouts on the daily, and why GeoHotz is tirelessly reverse engineering the GPUs to make his own drivers for them.
@@quadrupledamage nVidiot spotted, being brainwashed thinking nVidia has superior drivers when its proven that both camp has stable drivers and their own fair share of issues.
If AMD wasn't going anywhere when their CPU and GPU marketshare were both at like 15%, they aren't going anywhere now. I still kick myself in the ass whenever I look back at their stock price from 2018.
@@tomorpedreiro3032 Ok bud. I guess you're a NVIDIA simp. I personally have been using AMD GPUs for years now and have never ran into these supposed driver issues. That was an issue with there extremely old cards that most people don't even have anymore. I play HellDivers 2 at 1440p High with NO upscaling and rarely get below 70 FPS with my RX 6700 XT. That is more than playable. So stop simping for a company that hasn't had reasonable pricing since the GTX 10 series. Btw, I will gladly buy from NVIDIA once they improve their pricing.
I own 7900 xtx mister amd simp :D :D amd has always better pricing, and literally most of amd users have to use dx11 at helldivers. (new gen tho) I literally care only about better products as a customer, and that's a green way.
AMD doesn't give a crap about your hard earned money lol. They are selling their cards with the highest markup people are willing to pay, and their decline in revenue is proof of that. If they cared about your money every one of their cards about be at least $100 cheaper.
My next gpu will most likly be amd. I got a 4070 ti super because it was my first build, and i did not want to stray away from what i was used to from my laptop with a 3070 ti
The reason to support the underdogs is that it benefits the consumer. If there's minimal/no competition, companies with the monopoly will sell at absurd prices and lower quality. We NEED competition, its how we get better products and prices.
I haven't been supporting them on purpose because they haven't been anywhere near as competitive as they need to be. Hopefully this quarters revenue will be a wake up call
@@Gaming_Legend2 its their first gen, the a770 is a good card. Battlemage looks promising, over 12,5x SIMD performance alone is insane. With the right price they blow AMD out of the low-mid range, I guess Celestial will target High-End.
I just purchased a 7900XT. I was cautious because of a previous purchase a few years back but this time I have had no issues and it is working great. They have improved their drivers a lot.
Tbh, I feel like it’s the whole phone thing where peeps just say “f it, ima get an iPhone so I don’t really have to think about what was better for my money.” Just purchase, setup, and forget.
@@gamer8622 not really, sapphire has gone down in quality majorly as of recently, considering for the last 4 gpu cards i had from amd where from sapphire
@TheRealNeoFrancois your personal experience isn't reality lol. They are the best period. It's not rly a debate or opinion. You're objectively wrong saying they aren't AMDs #1 gpu partner right now.
@@qrain__ ofc it is, but people that already buy AMD are likely waiting for the next series to drop to upgrade. I know I'm holding off for Q4 '24/Q1 '25 because it will affect the new and used markets on the 5000, 6000, and 7000 series cards and/or it might be more worth getting one of the newer cards for my build depending on the prices.
Nvidia fan boys always jump right to the "but Ray tracing maan" argument as if AMD doesn't have cards capable of it. It's like they just listen exclusively to streamers and influencers and never bother to look at data and can't or won't read graphs.
This is false tho. U can keep saying it all u want. U look dumb showing loyalty to any one company, it’s flat out embarrassing. NVIDIA make the better gpu rn, u can’t argue facts and numbers.
I sold my gaming rig (Ryzen 5900X, RTX3090 etc.) a while ago. I'm done with gaming. The only games worth playing are so old, that most of them run on a potato.
Uhh... You need to compare AMD's decline in revenue with Nvidia's. If they have both fallen significantly, then it's the market slowing down. Probably due to the return to normalcy after Covid-19.
It's probably partially due to the fact that they don't have a real "halo" card to compete with the 4090. With all of the melted 12vhp plugs on the 4090s they could have made some serious ground, but they squandered their chance by not having a true flagship card
they dont need a "flagship" card because the 4090 is still priced accordingly regardless. they could make a card 10x more powerful than a 4090 but it wont matter because the cost will make it useless. why do you think everyone doesnt just go buy a 4090? plus, it looks like amd is slowing down on some things for now while they work on new tech that will be much more competitive with nvidia so personally i prefer to wait for the next best thing as opposed to getting a ton of releases each of which only being slightly better than its predecessor.
What amd needs is not better fps but better productivity option We all know how much softwares like After effects needs and if Amd can provide the option to handle it in a lesser price ... Then it'll be Amd era
I am looking into buying my first PC- and let me tell you I am buying AMD lol. I don’t have enough budget to buy nvidia and even if I did, there are not enough benefits to justify it
Don't do that. He NEVER talks about it but amd GPUs are ONLY good for gaming and gaming only, rendering anything, video editing, graphic design, asset creation, all of it is basically impossible if not uncomfortable with AMD GPUs because they refuse to work with the developers of software for those things.
@@ImJustSomeoneNamedLucas no but for someone's first computer that would be an incredibly limiting decision. He also doesn't seem to realize older cheaper Nvidia GPUs are amazing, no one but the ultra elitist buy the new ones :/ they come out like every year
AMD's TDP and WATT need is usually higher by a significant amount depending on the compared cards. You will save money on your electrical bill and cooling if you go the intel and Nvidia route. You will see the savings after a few months, people don't think about utility bills, these US youtubers don't live in a country where power is taxed and priced relatively high. Buy last years products if you want to save money, you are buying into marketing if you think you need the newest tech.
I wanted to like amd, I really did, but after having several issues and in several different games, endless troubleshooting and Reddit reading I still couldn’t fix my issues. I went and bought an NVIDIA card and all the issues dissapeared. Idk if I got a bad card or what but judging by the amount of Reddit threads I went through, I wasn’t the only one.
Have you tried uninstalling your former nvidia drivers? That seems to fix the problem for a lot of people, amd cards aren't bad in general, they're pretty amazing for rasterization they just lack software futures like nvidia and AI futures, it's something that people don't get, it's not always about building something at the moment, you have to also consider the cost of engineering such software and AI futures, that's why AMD is better at pure performance because there are non of these extra steps so it costs them less hence the lower price Btw the app's name is DDU and seems like it fixed the problem for like everyone I talked to
@@Pt08020 i have tried 3 or 4 times to go team red for GPU starting in 2013. last time was 2018 every single time i would full wipe my PC aka installing the OS from a live disk. Every time i would give up after a short time because games would constantly crash or have graphical issues. I might give it another chance, but NVIDIA has always just worked off the bat, and people like you blaming the end user for a bad experience is just gatekeeping plain and simple. P.S. I always use AMD CPU even before ryzen came out and they were kinda trash, but since then AMD has owned the CPU market, so I'm not a hater of the company.
@@silashinton6873 yes I blame the user becoz if it was AMD issue nobody would be buying AMD anymore but that's not the case. It keeps happening to u coz u probably didn't wipe NVIDIA drivers before installing AMD gpu then complain AMD doesn't work.
I think most people are just waiting out on RX 8000 because even if you don't get the latest gen gpus, the older generations normally decrease in price.
I waited on a 6950xt knowing the 7800xt was due. Got it for u the same price and it's a slightly better card. Also really liked the reference cards for 6000 series. They actually fit in my case
Both team Red and Green have themselves to blame. With what I paid for my RX6700XT in 2021 I'm going out get my money's worth out of it and am not planning on replacing it anytime soon.
I ended up getting an NVIDIA GPU, since many of the machine learning libraries that I depend on for my research depend heavily on CUDA. From my perspective, it was just too inefficient to set up the same projects on AMD cards.
@@litntt4628Oh look, another edgy little kid, what a surprise coming from the same type of people who buy Apple because "more expensive=better". There is nothing more pathetic than defending a multi billion dollar company lmao.
I live in israel and very recently built a new gaming pc (obviously i paid for someone to built it i just picked the parts😅). I picked the rx7900xt and literally every single person advised me to get Nvidia card. Honesly that card did not disappoint at all! I think that nvidia are just way more "famous" when it comes to gpus hence why so many people just pick nvidia
it really depends on what your workload is the rx 7700 xt and rtx 4060 ti is same price where i live, i choose nvidia since its better supported for 3d rendering and productivity but if im gaming only i will choose amd
My first ever gpu was 980 and after all the issues i had with that card, i switched to nvidia 3060 and all driver/any issus in general was fixed. I know my card was like 10y old but the taste it left in my mount never went away and that is why i will not switch back unless nvidia starts to get same problems
The problem is spendable extra money... I need to rebuild my gaming rig, and i always go amd, but the pc cost increases on top of the price rises everywhere else makes it impossible for me to afford a new build. I know im not the only one with this issue.
I know the current state is a duopoly but if this turns into a monopoly with nvidia the prices will go up so if this happens all we can hope is that intel battlemage comes and actually competes and forces nvidias prices down
This is the same cycle as the rx480/580 which I had 20 of. Those cards were gloriously mid-range. AMD is just going back to what works for them. Would be nice if EVGA would make AMD cards though
I bought 7900xtx instead of 4080 and I'm a bit disappointed with lack of PhysX technology. Some older games work worse on my new pricey GPU than on my old GTX 1060. So they are reasons to buy Nvidia.
@@diamonshade7484 yes it is. The technology was freed in 2016, but still systems without nvidia gpu struggle with those games, because cpu does the heavy lifting. It is still a bummer that with quite a powerfull rig (rx7900xtx and ryzen 7 5800x3d) I've got issues with games that are more than decade old (Arkham Asylum runs in less than 30fps...)
Amds only issue really is drivers and weird optimizations you need to do (mood/ups editing in the registry) , other issues is there are some games being released with mandatory ray tracing which is bs
and this is why im hoping to secure my 6750 xt by December (this is just my dream graphics card, i already wanted this specific one for a long time now and im not gonna change my mind as i just think its a beautiful looking card that performs really well, even if i know there are other cards that perform close with lower price)
To people saying "Nvidia will raise prices if AMD leaves", dude Nvidia already is a monopoly, 85% market share is just the proof. If Nvidia wanted to raise their prices, they could do it right now and still keep being the monopoly
they cant. because their pricing is just premium enough that people will pay for it. But if its too expensive, the budget alternative will start to look too good not to. AMD had a big influx because nvidia cards were scalped to hell and too ex. Especially at the mid-tier. With crypto mining crash, there was a big availability.
I have amd and only thing I don't like is that I'm always double checking that the features actually turned on; frtc needs some fidling sometimes. Don't know if nvidia has same problem
The reason why I went for Nvidia is DLSS being much better than FSR, and their Frame Generation solution being pretty much close to perfection. That's it, because those things not only can make me not feel like I need a GPU upgrade sooner than with the AMD alternative, but same thing goes for the CPU. Yes, I did try AMD's solutions, and yes, I paid for the mods too, and altho the FG implementations are much better than the official ones, they are not even close to DLSS 3 in terms of quality. Same thing goes for DLSS compared with FSR. I went for a 4080, but I guess that next time I'll go for an AMD GPU because FSR is slowly but surely improving.
Man, you telling me. I would love to use AMD but then I would be missing out so much features that Nvidia had. Like, i really want to use AMD, but Nvidia really make that choice almost impossible.
I think a good chunk of GPUs being bought aren’t just for gaming they’re being used for productivity and when it comes to productivity it’s Nvidia that has better value per dollar, there’s also brand recognition and better resell value on nvidia GPUs
I think that if current trends continue, Linux will become more popular, and at this point, I even consider in mainstream. It's to a point where Linux is important to AMD for gaming GPUs, if the data from the Steam survey is anything to go by
I don't really get why amd is selling less, their gpus are a lot better in terms of price and performance than the Nvidia ones, people are just dumb and like to pay more for less
I live in Vietnam, and i want an amd card so bad, but for some reason all distributors set their price for amd's so much higher than the recommended retail price, and there are also no mid-range and lower options, only the high end ones
I honestly believe it's due to how they name their damn graphics card and CPUs, Nvidia is pretty simple, 3000 series - 4000 series etc. also another big problem is Nvidia's DLSS which is leaps and beyonds better than FSR and not having that tech available is a serious problem
That’s a shame. I’ve used a lot of ATI/AMD cards and they were all reliable and powerful. Here’s hoping they can bounce back in the next couple of generations.
why all AMD? just go for whatever gives you the best value, whether that's all AMD or not. don't specifically try to go for a combination over another because of branding
I got a 3080 thinking I was gonna use RTX. I did not. In the only instance where I had a chance, it tanked the fps so bad, I turned it off. I might switch to AMD GPUs for my upgrade
I just bought a new custom pc with Ryzen 5 5600 and RTX 3060. To be honest im planning getting a combo of 5600 and rx6700xt since all youtuber said its a good gpu. But then the guy at the pc store persuade me to get an NVIDIA gpu instead of Radeon. He complain how bad amd gpu driver on certain games where it keep crashing and even blue screen said from his experience. I really hope its all bias and amd gpu driver is actually decent.
I love how people are arguing over what's gonna happen to the prices while I checked 4090 price tonight and in Serbia on a trusted site it costs 300 thousand dinars which is something between 2500$ and 2800$. Correct me if I'm wrong but that shouldn't be the case?
Announced future models and leaks about specs could impact this. If I know that the new gpu generation is dropping next year I'm not going to pay msrp for the current gen, I'm going to wait for the newest one
I’ve always used nvidia graphics cards but damn if AMD stops with theirs everyone is going to be paying even more insane prices, hopefully they have a breakthrough and gets a boost.
Literally just bought a 7900 GRE for my build and love it. Not sure why everyone hates on AMD so much given the price is so much lower for a equivalent GPU.
Man, I'm praying for AMD, even though I've always been an NVIDIA user. I wish I could buy AMD at some point, but for now, it's impossible. I'm interested in AI, and the tools for it are just way less usable on AMD. But I wish they'd step up their game so I can enjoy some of that VRAM. Please, AMD.
Because multiple core gpus are around the corner, amd scrapped the 8000 high end to move forward on the next architecture. Which should be faster than blackwell.
I am going to need to see the sales data on this because even if AMD slows down on pushing forward in terms of advancement in GPU tech they will always hold a market value from retail as a stable seller just based on price alone due to NVIDIA’s behavior of pricing things well beyond what they are honestly worth.
For me, with an amd 6700XT it's pretty good for most stuff, especially for Linux that i like to dual-boot, but dear lord the drivers, screen flickers, I've had crashes during games, and worst for me, some AI workloads or during heavy editing i was met with resistance rather than "working in tandem" sort of deal Even tho all this for me at least is true. Can't wait for AMD to improve 🙏
i'm glad that i just recently bought my RX 7700XT the performance jump is insane from 1070Ti to 7700XT with the same Ryzen 7 3700X even on my 1080p 144Hz panel
AMD needs to first focus on productivity performance, I don't want to compromise on my work for any company. I hope their cuda replacement works but I really don't see anyone talking about them. Also, make better gpus for laptops.
I really do want to get an AMD gpu to support them but there just havent been any games that justify it. I upgraded to a 2070 super for red dead redemption 2 and its been going strong ever since
Consumers need to understand that in favor of the consumer there NEEDS to be (real) competition within brands, it's best to go with your actual better option (whether it's Nvidia or AMD) so the customer will be the one that actually controls the market, not a pseudo-monopoly
Monopoly FTW! Then we start to see Nvidia going through what Intel did: slowly stop innovating , like, at all. +5% faster performance per generation is what I've always wanted to see. 🎉
Waiting for the new stuff to come out so I can buy this as the old stuff. If I get a used 7900gre I’m gonna be able to play 99% of games at the speeds and resolutions I want.
I’ve never had any issues with AMD GPU’s. The biggest issue I’ve seen is programmers obviously getting some kind of deal to “optimize” for Nvidia and leave AMD out to dry.
I would use amd if i could play stretched 360hz in cs without changing my desktop resolution to match and also if the amd encoder was atleast close to nvidia encoder in streaming and recording. had 7900xt, sold it and bought 4070 just because of the quality of life improvements
I’d love to get an AMD GPU but I’m using it mostly for content creation and 3D animation, Adobe After Effects and such. Unfortunately, it’s my understanding that AMD GPUs don’t support those kinds of things. If they did have support for those uses, then I’d have bought an AMD GPU.
RDNA4 *should* have the performance of a 7900XT +5-15% for $499-549 with 25-50% faster RT and 10-20% less power usage. If that is the case, it would be a pretty darn good product.
If amd left the market mid range is going to cost like 1000$
Rtx 4060 300$💀
you're sure as fuxked when Rtx 4070ti is mid range
Isn’t that already mid range?
@@donut-r4s6z it is
So much pressure lies on team blue now 😂
What Nvidia fanboys are not comprehending is that once AMD stop their GPU manufactoring, Nvidia will have the full power on GPU prices
I don't think they care. I think they're okay with cards that cost $200 more than the AMD equivalent, just because DLSS is marginally better than FSR despite being new software that don't generally make a difference.
If AMD really cared about market share they should start making better gpu drivers
@@StealthGunRunner They will care once the GPU prices get very high $4k+ for a xx90 $2k for a xx80 they will cry because that will go up and they could release updates to make the old GPUs run worse you know what I think this is what it will take...
And what you are not comprehending is that if the people stop buying new GPUs, the game devs will be forced to optimise the games for wider audience, so people will not need new cards anyway. That's what happened when the AMD FX CPUs failed, so Intel had monopoly.
It's not anybody's responsibility to buy something just to fill a company's market share lol. Just gotta buy whatever fits your use case, in which case it's more a responsibility to smarten up and/or educate the ones who buy a 3050 for brand recognition when they could be buying an amd instead.
Once Nvidia has a 90 percent monopoly again I won't be surprised to see another price spike
It’s already really bad. Like we all know the 4090 costing a full gaming setup with mouse keyboard 7600 and a 7800xt (2080 euros in France) which is absolutely ridiculous
Well then people will switch to consoles. Market will cool down as hell and prices of GPUs will drop.
@@korinogaroxbox should let you play pc games
@@korinogaro I just go with older gen amd parts. But consoles are so easy to manage. No checking if this is the best part, no checking if it’s overpriced, if it lasts good, etc. You just buy the console and that’s it.
@@TheNuttGuy even funnier that a used 3090 Ti costs around 800 GBP here when you can get a brand new 7900 XT that performs better for around 600GBP.
"NVIDIA has been the worst company we have ever had to deal with"
-Linus Torvalds
Linux also happens to be the worst OS i've ever had to deal with... ;)
@@Crazzzycarrot-qo5wrand Yet Windows is becoming bothersome to many people :3
@@ajaxsakaraplayz4070 not really
@@Crazzzycarrot-qo5wr yet I'd rather invest more of my time on Linux rather than giving away everything I do on my pc. I'm not even selling my data, that'd be cool, It's just stolen from me.
admit it, we all know that half the comment section is 12 year old nvidia glazers
(this is a joke)
@@EvanFar_nah it isnt, cuz you're probably right XD
You're so right, they see their favorite streamers use it and think AMD sucks XD
Fact👍
1000000000 percent agree on this one
If AMD fails, Nividia gpu prices will sky rocket.
The funny thing is that AMD graphics cards seem to last longer, leading to more second hand sales.
Honestly a rx 5700xt is about £200 second hand and are enough for almost all games (only one I've not been able to run is metro exodus enhanced edition, despite baldurs gate 3, fortnite, COD etc working)
The 6700 xt is more than enough and solves a lot of the heat issues the 5700xt had.
And because of this good value and lasting longer as second hand means you'll see less new cards being sold.
@@norman2.0 I recommend undervolting the 5700 XT
Saves a TON of power
Example of one setting is 155 watts ( undervolted ) vs 255 watts ( stock )
@@ImJustSomeoneNamedLucas I would, but I usually either play BG3, warthunder, crossout or enlisted.
So most of them need my card to be at that higher power (especially BG3 and warthunder)
@@norman2.0 Bro. WT needs only a GTX 1070 lvl of card with 3 GB of VRAM. An underclocked RX 5700 XT can handle it
Idk abt BG3 tho
@@ImJustSomeoneNamedLucas WT On lower graphics settings maybe, but I have everything turned up lmao. So self inflicted in know, but damn it I want me tonk pretty 🤣
The 5700xt is, I believe, the "recommended" card for BG3.
Correction. companies that build pre-builds and large scale integrators like Dell don't buy AMD. In the case of Dell and HP they get huge discounts from Nvidia.
At that point it seems it's the failure of the amd marketing department.
Sometimes the winner in a company battle isn't the one who has the better product but one who is able to market and get the right connection.
@@MasterInDiguise i see what you mean, but you'd hope people would look past the namesake for the price 2 performance. it's strange. AMD cards are SO cheap for their performance.
sounds like a monopoly suit.
Seriously this is pretty cut and dry an easy lawsuit.
People will complain about the monopoly soon enough, and im pretty sure it would be favorable to deal with it
Just isn't true though is it, go to steams hardware charts. Reported hardware the 7900xtx is the only AMD card that comes in the top 10. Gamers also chose Nvidia.
@@kinga4b124 i was talking about price to perf, not just perf and we were talking about cheap pre-builts
Amd should not leave the market, NEVER! The only reason nvidia doesn't sell 3060s for 1k is competition
True, imagine the next-gen 60 class cards costs more than the 4060 while having barely any performance gain and it'll probably rely massively on AI to function properly.
Nah, they should leave for a year or 2 and heavily refine their GPU performance behind closed doors. Then right when Nvidia jacks up their prices. AMD can return like the shining knights they are.
@@jamestaylor9887 I meant permanently. The AMD gpus are getting better significantly. The 8000 series is gonna have a massive boost in rt performance according to leaks
@@jamestaylor9887 LMAO what? You know Intel exists right?
@@medraut6599 But even with intel, they still sell gpus for a healthy kidney, if amd dissapeared they'd just be selling their gpus for fucking healthy brains for scientific studies
I bought a 7900GRE the other day and an employee seemed genuinely shocked that they were selling an AMD GPU. Sad because these are fantastic cards.
Their garbage if they were fantastic they would have high demand like NVIDIA but you don’t see 120% price increase for any amd card
@Messup7654
Nvidia is a more recognizable brand, which is why it sells. 7900GRE outperforms its price competitors in all benchmarks. There are reasons to buy an Nvidia gpu, but writing off AMD because it doesn't sell as well is silly. Can we not think for ourselves?
I want to get a 7800xt, already sold my 3070 and not sure if I should wait for January where the new GPUs are rumored to release. I'm getting the 7800xt no matter what the 8000 series brings so it's just about the price drop when they release. I'd appreciate some outside perspective: should I wait a few months or buy it now?
If you have the money I’d say to buy now not gonna lie
@@Messup7654there is likely no reason for you to actually buy nvidia compared to AMD I mean the differences between them are minimal and you lie,li don’t edit using da Vinci or adobe so you don’t need those encoders so calling a gpu bad because of its sales being lower and not having techtokers raving about it 24/7 doesn’t mean anything
No man, we don't want GPU monopoly
AMD users and NVIDIA users
Basically a 1v10 clutch 💀💀
It's an unfair battle, Intel is third party-ing.
Well that clutch isn't happening 😂
Nvidia is better
@@Arkini6362 - a brainwashed fanboy
Its better {in some things only}@@nmcli
This is so unfortunate, I love AMD GPUs
Every one knows Nividia is the future 🤣🤣
@@HACPOA-001prices go up when there's less competition, so don't complain when your 6080 gpu is $3k
@@HACPOA-001Nvidia is good, but AMD price to performance is crazy. You can find AMD GPUs for a lower price and they will usually have more vram and perform better, and this happens like 70% of the time.
@@ilbro7874 who saidnil complain
@IcallMYSELFomen yeah they are going to cuz the Ai uprising beware of the leather jackets
Next time Nvidia release a gpu with absurd pricing, you know who's to blame, we just can't stop buying team green despite AMD having the better value 😂
Nvidia is the Apple of PC gaming I swear
@@El-Leon-VLLCexcept in this case Nvidia does actually make the best graphics card. When AMD actually makes a card to compete with top of the line Nvidia GPUs then this comparison will be more true.
Best value =/= best product, nvidia cards are far superior
@@howtorawk Bro forgot that we are almost in a recession
@christiandaniels8045 i get what you mean, the 4090 is the best without any question, but i doubt the majority of people that buys nvidia, the majority of the graphics sold are in the lower range in which AMD do compete heavily.... so i dont think having the best GPU is the real problem.
Had a Radeon four dell inspiron that I used to jam out with WCIII on, that is where my love for AMD started, was a console guy for the longest time, but now? It’s high time I build my first desktop. AMD 5 7500f and a RX 7600xt is what I believe I am going with
The thing with AMD GPUs here at Malaysia is that it’s impossible to get one. Most gaming stores here will only offer Nvidia and Intel(somehow) cards only
It's not because AMD lost to NVIDIA. It's because RDNA 3 lost to RDNA 2. Many people like me went to the used market and grabbed those.
Both architectures lost to the driver department.
@quadrupledamage lol. No, they didn't. The drivers are great.
@@nimaarg3066 Yeah that's why my AMD friends experience driver timeouts on the daily, and why GeoHotz is tirelessly reverse engineering the GPUs to make his own drivers for them.
@quadrupledamage never had any issues. Everybody says drivers, but I just don't see it.
@@quadrupledamage nVidiot spotted, being brainwashed thinking nVidia has superior drivers when its proven that both camp has stable drivers and their own fair share of issues.
If AMD wasn't going anywhere when their CPU and GPU marketshare were both at like 15%, they aren't going anywhere now. I still kick myself in the ass whenever I look back at their stock price from 2018.
I love AMD GPUs so much. You can actually buy a graphics card from a company that shows some respect towards your hard earned cash.
i hope u are not kidding. cus if AMD was the market lead you would see the opposite. this is what i hate about amd brain deads. .
yeah, by not fixing drivers and terrible performance in trending games, like helldivers and call of duty. pass
@@tomorpedreiro3032 Ok bud. I guess you're a NVIDIA simp. I personally have been using AMD GPUs for years now and have never ran into these supposed driver issues. That was an issue with there extremely old cards that most people don't even have anymore. I play HellDivers 2 at 1440p High with NO upscaling and rarely get below 70 FPS with my RX 6700 XT. That is more than playable. So stop simping for a company that hasn't had reasonable pricing since the GTX 10 series. Btw, I will gladly buy from NVIDIA once they improve their pricing.
I own 7900 xtx mister amd simp :D :D amd has always better pricing, and literally most of amd users have to use dx11 at helldivers. (new gen tho)
I literally care only about better products as a customer, and that's a green way.
AMD doesn't give a crap about your hard earned money lol. They are selling their cards with the highest markup people are willing to pay, and their decline in revenue is proof of that. If they cared about your money every one of their cards about be at least $100 cheaper.
My next gpu will most likly be amd. I got a 4070 ti super because it was my first build, and i did not want to stray away from what i was used to from my laptop with a 3070 ti
Amd is drastically underrated
The reason to support the underdogs is that it benefits the consumer. If there's minimal/no competition, companies with the monopoly will sell at absurd prices and lower quality. We NEED competition, its how we get better products and prices.
I haven't been supporting them on purpose because they haven't been anywhere near as competitive as they need to be. Hopefully this quarters revenue will be a wake up call
@@justmatt2655 We all hope so
Let’s be honest NVIDIA is the Apple of graphics cards.
People buy it because of its reputation not what’s better.
If Apple had a better device than Android sure.
@@keiton9512 It does
@@Vettel_Ronaldo except they don't.
@@Vettel_Ronaldo me when i lie
@@Vettel_RonaldoApple can be better when they're not 8 years minimum behind on phone features and quality.
*Intel throughout all of this:* 👀
Here’s hoping Battlemage is good
Got my Intel gpu and it's a beast.
Pray harder
also intel with 0% marketshare in gpus xd
@@Gaming_Legend2 its their first gen, the a770 is a good card. Battlemage looks promising, over 12,5x SIMD performance alone is insane. With the right price they blow AMD out of the low-mid range, I guess Celestial will target High-End.
I just purchased a 7900XT. I was cautious because of a previous purchase a few years back but this time I have had no issues and it is working great. They have improved their drivers a lot.
Tbh, I feel like it’s the whole phone thing where peeps just say “f it, ima get an iPhone so I don’t really have to think about what was better for my money.” Just purchase, setup, and forget.
As long as xfx keeps making cards im okay
They're mid at best these days. Sapphire is much better
@@gamer8622they still make good cards but yeah sapphire is the 🐐
@@gamer8622 not really, sapphire has gone down in quality majorly as of recently, considering for the last 4 gpu cards i had from amd where from sapphire
@@gamer8622 In my area, Sapphire is more expensive and I can't justify the $20 extra
@TheRealNeoFrancois your personal experience isn't reality lol. They are the best period. It's not rly a debate or opinion. You're objectively wrong saying they aren't AMDs #1 gpu partner right now.
It's probably because people wanna wait till the Rx 8000-9000 gpus
yes i suppose, but dont you think it might be the same for the 50 series?
Right 8000 is right around the corner 😂
@@qrain__ ofc it is, but people that already buy AMD are likely waiting for the next series to drop to upgrade. I know I'm holding off for Q4 '24/Q1 '25 because it will affect the new and used markets on the 5000, 6000, and 7000 series cards and/or it might be more worth getting one of the newer cards for my build depending on the prices.
It's over 9000
It's over 9000
Literally just got my RX 7900 XTX PC. Runs like a dream. Ray Tracing is no problem at all, in addition to amazing graphics.
Nvidia fan boys always jump right to the "but Ray tracing maan" argument as if AMD doesn't have cards capable of it. It's like they just listen exclusively to streamers and influencers and never bother to look at data and can't or won't read graphs.
Do you know if raytracing also runs great on the RX 7900 XT?
@@rallyscoot Pretty good too
This is false tho. U can keep saying it all u want. U look dumb showing loyalty to any one company, it’s flat out embarrassing. NVIDIA make the better gpu rn, u can’t argue facts and numbers.
what dus ""addition to amazing graphics"" means bruh you don't even know what u are doing.
I sold my gaming rig (Ryzen 5900X, RTX3090 etc.) a while ago. I'm done with gaming. The only games worth playing are so old, that most of them run on a potato.
You make a good point
Uhh... You need to compare AMD's decline in revenue with Nvidia's. If they have both fallen significantly, then it's the market slowing down. Probably due to the return to normalcy after Covid-19.
AMD GPU market share is in steady decline since 2010, from 44% to 12%, its bad.
It's probably partially due to the fact that they don't have a real "halo" card to compete with the 4090. With all of the melted 12vhp plugs on the 4090s they could have made some serious ground, but they squandered their chance by not having a true flagship card
Yeah, because it's so easy to make a flagship car...
they dont need a "flagship" card because the 4090 is still priced accordingly regardless. they could make a card 10x more powerful than a 4090 but it wont matter because the cost will make it useless. why do you think everyone doesnt just go buy a 4090?
plus, it looks like amd is slowing down on some things for now while they work on new tech that will be much more competitive with nvidia so personally i prefer to wait for the next best thing as opposed to getting a ton of releases each of which only being slightly better than its predecessor.
What amd needs is not better fps but better productivity option
We all know how much softwares like After effects needs and if Amd can provide the option to handle it in a lesser price ... Then it'll be Amd era
How good are their workstation cards
@@diamonshade7484 Uhh? They make workstation cards?
@@ImJustSomeoneNamedLucas AMD PRO cards. 3000 Euro.
Adobe products not working well on AMD isn’t AMD’s fault, it’s adobe’s fault
@@obj_objyes, but until they solve the problem, we have to use nvidia
I am looking into buying my first PC- and let me tell you I am buying AMD lol. I don’t have enough budget to buy nvidia and even if I did, there are not enough benefits to justify it
Don't do that. He NEVER talks about it but amd GPUs are ONLY good for gaming and gaming only, rendering anything, video editing, graphic design, asset creation, all of it is basically impossible if not uncomfortable with AMD GPUs because they refuse to work with the developers of software for those things.
@@derekhenschel3191even for gaming only use case, NVIDIA cards have much better feature set
@@derekhenschel3191 Did he mention that he was going to use the ckmouter for a reason?
@@ImJustSomeoneNamedLucas no but for someone's first computer that would be an incredibly limiting decision. He also doesn't seem to realize older cheaper Nvidia GPUs are amazing, no one but the ultra elitist buy the new ones :/ they come out like every year
AMD's TDP and WATT need is usually higher by a significant amount depending on the compared cards. You will save money on your electrical bill and cooling if you go the intel and Nvidia route. You will see the savings after a few months, people don't think about utility bills, these US youtubers don't live in a country where power is taxed and priced relatively high. Buy last years products if you want to save money, you are buying into marketing if you think you need the newest tech.
I’ve never owned an amd gpu but I’m considering buying one this time around to support them. I was debating between the 4060ti and the 7600xt.
6700xt
@@RonnieMcNutt666 Why this one?
@@XFile91 more vram better price
Xtx
I wanted to like amd, I really did, but after having several issues and in several different games, endless troubleshooting and Reddit reading I still couldn’t fix my issues. I went and bought an NVIDIA card and all the issues dissapeared. Idk if I got a bad card or what but judging by the amount of Reddit threads I went through, I wasn’t the only one.
Have you tried uninstalling your former nvidia drivers? That seems to fix the problem for a lot of people, amd cards aren't bad in general, they're pretty amazing for rasterization they just lack software futures like nvidia and AI futures, it's something that people don't get, it's not always about building something at the moment, you have to also consider the cost of engineering such software and AI futures, that's why AMD is better at pure performance because there are non of these extra steps so it costs them less hence the lower price
Btw the app's name is DDU and seems like it fixed the problem for like everyone I talked to
Switched to team red last year and never looked back. Might be user issue
Same @@Pt08020
@@Pt08020 i have tried 3 or 4 times to go team red for GPU starting in 2013. last time was 2018 every single time i would full wipe my PC aka installing the OS from a live disk. Every time i would give up after a short time because games would constantly crash or have graphical issues. I might give it another chance, but NVIDIA has always just worked off the bat, and people like you blaming the end user for a bad experience is just gatekeeping plain and simple.
P.S. I always use AMD CPU even before ryzen came out and they were kinda trash, but since then AMD has owned the CPU market, so I'm not a hater of the company.
@@silashinton6873 yes I blame the user becoz if it was AMD issue nobody would be buying AMD anymore but that's not the case. It keeps happening to u coz u probably didn't wipe NVIDIA drivers before installing AMD gpu then complain AMD doesn't work.
Yep, NoVidia can kiss my whole AMD loving butt. I'll never stop using AMD in my builds.....
Same!
Same. I can’t justify nVidia no matter what. Been using ATI (now AMD) since 2003. Won’t stop now.
Nvidia is Better than amd cards
@@Arkini6362and 25/40% more expensive for negligible gains and a better software on mid end cards what a steal
@@Arkini6362 Opinions are like assholes we all have one.
I think most people are just waiting out on RX 8000 because even if you don't get the latest gen gpus, the older generations normally decrease in price.
I waited on a 6950xt knowing the 7800xt was due. Got it for u the same price and it's a slightly better card.
Also really liked the reference cards for 6000 series. They actually fit in my case
Im planning to build a full amd pc soon
I have one, 7800x3d + 7900XTX. As far as I am concerned, Nvidia and its bloated prices can go to hell. And the same goes for Apple.
I have ryzen 5 7600x and rx 7900gre
Both team Red and Green have themselves to blame. With what I paid for my RX6700XT in 2021 I'm going out get my money's worth out of it and am not planning on replacing it anytime soon.
I ended up getting an NVIDIA GPU, since many of the machine learning libraries that I depend on for my research depend heavily on CUDA. From my perspective, it was just too inefficient to set up the same projects on AMD cards.
Nvidia fanboys getting out of hand
here have some tissue amd fanboy 🤧
Fanboys aren't that common lol this happened because AMD isn't being competitive enough
@@justmatt2655its nvidia that arent being competetive enough lol, have you seen the prices?
@@qrain__ yes that is y they r being sold more than amd 😹😹
@@litntt4628Oh look, another edgy little kid, what a surprise coming from the same type of people who buy Apple because "more expensive=better". There is nothing more pathetic than defending a multi billion dollar company lmao.
I live in israel and very recently built a new gaming pc (obviously i paid for someone to built it i just picked the parts😅). I picked the rx7900xt and literally every single person advised me to get Nvidia card. Honesly that card did not disappoint at all! I think that nvidia are just way more "famous" when it comes to gpus hence why so many people just pick nvidia
Tell them that you won't get brainwashed
it really depends on what your workload is the rx 7700 xt and rtx 4060 ti is same price where i live, i choose nvidia since its better supported for 3d rendering and productivity but if im gaming only i will choose amd
Just installed a brand new rx6800 i say otherwise
Now buy a million more.
I just did that this week with the Ryzen5 7600
U gotta buy like 5 million more for the scales to somewhat shift
Just swapped my 3060ti for a 6700xt as part of a trade and it's been great!
Got a 6800 a week ago with a r7 7700 and I'm eating good
My first ever gpu was 980 and after all the issues i had with that card, i switched to nvidia 3060 and all driver/any issus in general was fixed. I know my card was like 10y old but the taste it left in my mount never went away and that is why i will not switch back unless nvidia starts to get same problems
The problem is spendable extra money... I need to rebuild my gaming rig, and i always go amd, but the pc cost increases on top of the price rises everywhere else makes it impossible for me to afford a new build. I know im not the only one with this issue.
Nvidia must be split in multiple companies. They have to much market control
People would even buy crap like 3050 just because nothing outside of Nvidia exists for them.
Haha no matter how shitty that card is it will always be outselling the rx 7600
bUt i nEeD raYtRaCiNg
People dont understand that everything below a 4070 super is total ass for raytracing.
@@RWLN508Dnah you can get away with RT on a 3070, 3080, and 3090, all of which are worse than the 4070 super
Everyone in the comments should just be thankful gaming GPUs are made. They can sell the same silicon to the Ai server market at 10x.
And once amds share drops below a certain percentage you bet your ass nvidia will start increasing all those prices even for xx60 and xx50 cards
@0ninja213 if that happens I'll just go intel.
i should be thankful that a company will sell me products?
I know the current state is a duopoly but if this turns into a monopoly with nvidia the prices will go up so if this happens all we can hope is that intel battlemage comes and actually competes and forces nvidias prices down
This is the same cycle as the rx480/580 which I had 20 of. Those cards were gloriously mid-range. AMD is just going back to what works for them. Would be nice if EVGA would make AMD cards though
The thing is people sometimes want to experience the rtx and nvidia is best at rtx and there dlss is also top notch.
raytracing is RT.... no x
@_Zie_ it depends from game to game. With the new Path tracing the games looks really good.
Rdna 4 is supposed to have great rt performance
we Stan amd
Kinda wild people still buy nvidia over amd
I really don’t wanna buy nvidia but I have no other option coz. Of features and compatibility it have over amd.
I bought 7900xtx instead of 4080 and I'm a bit disappointed with lack of PhysX technology. Some older games work worse on my new pricey GPU than on my old GTX 1060. So they are reasons to buy Nvidia.
@@HarmonicaPLain't that a nvidia thing or DirectX
i buy Nvidia because i like how some gpu don't require any power connectors
@@diamonshade7484 yes it is. The technology was freed in 2016, but still systems without nvidia gpu struggle with those games, because cpu does the heavy lifting. It is still a bummer that with quite a powerfull rig (rx7900xtx and ryzen 7 5800x3d) I've got issues with games that are more than decade old (Arkham Asylum runs in less than 30fps...)
Amds only issue really is drivers and weird optimizations you need to do (mood/ups editing in the registry) , other issues is there are some games being released with mandatory ray tracing which is bs
and this is why im hoping to secure my 6750 xt by December (this is just my dream graphics card, i already wanted this specific one for a long time now and im not gonna change my mind as i just think its a beautiful looking card that performs really well, even if i know there are other cards that perform close with lower price)
tf amd is much superior to nvidia…cause i dont have to sell a leg for almost the same performance
To people saying "Nvidia will raise prices if AMD leaves", dude Nvidia already is a monopoly, 85% market share is just the proof. If Nvidia wanted to raise their prices, they could do it right now and still keep being the monopoly
they cant. because their pricing is just premium enough that people will pay for it. But if its too expensive, the budget alternative will start to look too good not to.
AMD had a big influx because nvidia cards were scalped to hell and too ex. Especially at the mid-tier. With crypto mining crash, there was a big availability.
Can we use rtx 4060 with amd ryzen 5 7600x
Pls tell me
Better go for 4070 2k gaming if you will go with ryzen 5 7600x
But if you will go rtx 4060 1080p gaming then go for ryzen 5600x
Bro dont buy 4060😂
I have amd and only thing I don't like is that I'm always double checking that the features actually turned on; frtc needs some fidling sometimes. Don't know if nvidia has same problem
The reason why I went for Nvidia is DLSS being much better than FSR, and their Frame Generation solution being pretty much close to perfection. That's it, because those things not only can make me not feel like I need a GPU upgrade sooner than with the AMD alternative, but same thing goes for the CPU.
Yes, I did try AMD's solutions, and yes, I paid for the mods too, and altho the FG implementations are much better than the official ones, they are not even close to DLSS 3 in terms of quality. Same thing goes for DLSS compared with FSR. I went for a 4080, but I guess that next time I'll go for an AMD GPU because FSR is slowly but surely improving.
Buying NVIDIA is like Buying Apple. You think its healthy for you BUT IT AIN'T
Nvidia is basically a monopoly in the GPU space and should be treated as such by regulators.
Man, you telling me. I would love to use AMD but then I would be missing out so much features that Nvidia had. Like, i really want to use AMD, but Nvidia really make that choice almost impossible.
@@TheAscendedHuman Well both companies CEO is literally cousin, so make sense AMD is trying to copy Nvidia
I think a good chunk of GPUs being bought aren’t just for gaming they’re being used for productivity and when it comes to productivity it’s Nvidia that has better value per dollar, there’s also brand recognition and better resell value on nvidia GPUs
I think that if current trends continue, Linux will become more popular, and at this point, I even consider in mainstream. It's to a point where Linux is important to AMD for gaming GPUs, if the data from the Steam survey is anything to go by
yay, linux comment
I don't really get why amd is selling less, their gpus are a lot better in terms of price and performance than the Nvidia ones, people are just dumb and like to pay more for less
because their prices are still ridiculous despite Nvidia.
I live in Vietnam, and i want an amd card so bad, but for some reason all distributors set their price for amd's so much higher than the recommended retail price, and there are also no mid-range and lower options, only the high end ones
I did. My 6800XT is great, only thing I'm disappointed in is that undervolting isn't that good compared to other users I've seen.
Dude, I love my 7800xt so much. It's so fun to use. I wish AMD will be good in future.
I was an AMD first guy. But my last card had a bug with newer Windows and they wouldn't fix it. So I switched.
This is a shame I just switched from Nvidia to AMD and I hate that I didn’t do it sooner. I love my 7900 xt so much it’s insane
I honestly believe it's due to how they name their damn graphics card and CPUs, Nvidia is pretty simple, 3000 series - 4000 series etc. also another big problem is Nvidia's DLSS which is leaps and beyonds better than FSR and not having that tech available is a serious problem
That’s a shame. I’ve used a lot of ATI/AMD cards and they were all reliable and powerful. Here’s hoping they can bounce back in the next couple of generations.
I actually plan on buying a 7800X3D and a 7900XTX, currently on nvidia but would like a all AMD build
why all AMD? just go for whatever gives you the best value, whether that's all AMD or not. don't specifically try to go for a combination over another because of branding
@@farmingthetnt8081 because I want a all AMD build? Don’t be a werido on the internet and tell ppl how too spend their money 🤔✌🏼
@@farmingthetnt8081 Because AMD +AMD Smart Access Memory gives +20% fps in many games.
I got a 3080 thinking I was gonna use RTX.
I did not.
In the only instance where I had a chance, it tanked the fps so bad, I turned it off. I might switch to AMD GPUs for my upgrade
I just bought a new custom pc with Ryzen 5 5600 and RTX 3060. To be honest im planning getting a combo of 5600 and rx6700xt since all youtuber said its a good gpu. But then the guy at the pc store persuade me to get an NVIDIA gpu instead of Radeon. He complain how bad amd gpu driver on certain games where it keep crashing and even blue screen said from his experience. I really hope its all bias and amd gpu driver is actually decent.
I love how people are arguing over what's gonna happen to the prices while I checked 4090 price tonight and in Serbia on a trusted site it costs 300 thousand dinars which is something between 2500$ and 2800$. Correct me if I'm wrong but that shouldn't be the case?
Announced future models and leaks about specs could impact this. If I know that the new gpu generation is dropping next year I'm not going to pay msrp for the current gen, I'm going to wait for the newest one
In India, amd prices are higher for some reason, and availability is also a big issue
I’ve always used nvidia graphics cards but damn if AMD stops with theirs everyone is going to be paying even more insane prices, hopefully they have a breakthrough and gets a boost.
Literally just bought a 7900 GRE for my build and love it. Not sure why everyone hates on AMD so much given the price is so much lower for a equivalent GPU.
Sadly i bought a 7900gre, and returned it within a few days, to replace it with 4070ti. Not the super, but the regular initial 4070ti.
Man, I'm praying for AMD, even though I've always been an NVIDIA user. I wish I could buy AMD at some point, but for now, it's impossible. I'm interested in AI, and the tools for it are just way less usable on AMD. But I wish they'd step up their game so I can enjoy some of that VRAM. Please, AMD.
The thing is, outisde markets amd can be as expensive as a nvidia gpu, that take off their advantage.
Because multiple core gpus are around the corner, amd scrapped the 8000 high end to move forward on the next architecture. Which should be faster than blackwell.
I am going to need to see the sales data on this because even if AMD slows down on pushing forward in terms of advancement in GPU tech they will always hold a market value from retail as a stable seller just based on price alone due to NVIDIA’s behavior of pricing things well beyond what they are honestly worth.
For me, with an amd 6700XT it's pretty good for most stuff, especially for Linux that i like to dual-boot, but dear lord the drivers, screen flickers, I've had crashes during games, and worst for me, some AI workloads or during heavy editing i was met with resistance rather than "working in tandem" sort of deal
Even tho all this for me at least is true. Can't wait for AMD to improve 🙏
i'm glad that i just recently bought my RX 7700XT
the performance jump is insane from 1070Ti to 7700XT
with the same Ryzen 7 3700X even on my 1080p 144Hz panel
AMD needs to first focus on productivity performance, I don't want to compromise on my work for any company. I hope their cuda replacement works but I really don't see anyone talking about them. Also, make better gpus for laptops.
I really do want to get an AMD gpu to support them but there just havent been any games that justify it. I upgraded to a 2070 super for red dead redemption 2 and its been going strong ever since
Consumers need to understand that in favor of the consumer there NEEDS to be (real) competition within brands, it's best to go with your actual better option (whether it's Nvidia or AMD) so the customer will be the one that actually controls the market, not a pseudo-monopoly
Monopoly FTW! Then we start to see Nvidia going through what Intel did: slowly stop innovating , like, at all. +5% faster performance per generation is what I've always wanted to see. 🎉
Waiting for the new stuff to come out so I can buy this as the old stuff. If I get a used 7900gre I’m gonna be able to play 99% of games at the speeds and resolutions I want.
I don’t know if my area is the exception, but I’ve seen plenty of AMD cards going down the belt in my time working at Amazon
I’ve never had any issues with AMD GPU’s.
The biggest issue I’ve seen is programmers obviously getting some kind of deal to “optimize” for Nvidia and leave AMD out to dry.
I switch to a RX 6600xt from a GTX 970 and I haven’t had a problem yet… my issue is I need a new mobo and cpu to get better performance
I would use amd if i could play stretched 360hz in cs without changing my desktop resolution to match and also if the amd encoder was atleast close to nvidia encoder in streaming and recording. had 7900xt, sold it and bought 4070 just because of the quality of life improvements
I’d love to get an AMD GPU but I’m using it mostly for content creation and 3D animation, Adobe After Effects and such. Unfortunately, it’s my understanding that AMD GPUs don’t support those kinds of things. If they did have support for those uses, then I’d have bought an AMD GPU.
This is so sad because the 7900 gre is a great value almost at the 4070 ti super while costing like 20% less (atleast in the danish market)
RDNA4 *should* have the performance of a 7900XT +5-15% for $499-549 with 25-50% faster RT and 10-20% less power usage. If that is the case, it would be a pretty darn good product.