UAVfutures I never have luck with drawings but maybe you could sell me one like 25% off or something... I would love to have one to teach my kids in the neighborhood
I had the same thing with my 1st 6s rig running 1850kv 2207 motors on 6s and 4 inch props ... the punch up set it into no gyro mode and would death roll for a few seconds then come back on line ... too much instant thrust
Hey Stew i'd just like to say that you have been such a great inspiration to me and to many. Although the only drones ive flown were the cheap brushed mini drones. Youre doing a great salad to the people youre giving away these drones to. And i hope God blesses you and your family for the great work youre doing in this world.
someone who says the letter H properly. I will only listen to them ;) what is interesting is only sharp inputs caused mine to desync and its 6 degrees C here yet yours does it on punch outs. I am now thinking its temperature related with it being summer where you are. I have tried EVERYTHING to get this reliable on 6s eachine tell me they are fixing it....
Seen all your attempts Andy at sorting this, and am impressed with your diligence, and amazed at your perseverance but move on mate, you reviewed it, its not your problem to fix it its eachines and unless they are paying you let them sort it.
hey mate, awesome for you to see, what was it like seeing your random name pop up, ive got a big smile on my face knowing you saw it here on video first rather than just seeing an email form me
After 6+ purchases of different brands of quads, only one of them works 100%, with the others sketchy and 2 that just stopped working. If brands would focus more on quality control, I think they could build some brand loyalty. Thanks UAV for highlighting the improvements and fails.
I've smashed my poor old Wizard into the ground so many times, I'm a amazed that it still flies. I only use it for exploring new places to fly now (built myself an Armattan Rooster) but it's super durable, and I've never had to replace any arms. Super fun to fly, very user friendly, and cheap enough to be brave with.
I speculate the death spirals were caused by air braking causing voltage spikes from the motors back through the ESCs and FC and resetting them. That might be why people got them on 6s and not as often on 4s, or 6s was just much for some units in general. I don't have one so I can't test.
thanks but AndyRc i think already covered this and feels this should have no effect. Do you think that this helps with the flips of death during hard maneouvres? Thanks
I think the best thing to do is to change the 4in one esc, those motors are beautiful and incredibly smooth. If you were to switch them id get those 6s samguk ones
Don't go near it is what I say, it looks the tits but it don't work properly. If we buy shit like this that needs modding straight out of the box its like an endorsement for them, and that's just wrong. Come on would you buy a brand new car that didn't work?
For an absolute noob and one whom prefers a physical drone instead of a remote & sim, is the Eachine E013 still a good value for money package in 2019 as the video on this was back in 2017? I ask as discord simply said do not go cheap when I raised the same question and simply said get the remote and a sim. If I enjoy the experience, the little package can go to my young son anyway to have some fun but wanted recommendations with consideration of keeping cost low while exploring the idea of the hobby
Beginner looking to get started, and I"m always so put off by setting up the remote and all that, and I have no clue on soldering. Is there an all in one package that comes with a remote, decent full size drone, and goggles? I really want to fly but the whole setup on the PC is kinda a block for me at the moment
What advantage does a lower kv but higher voltage rated motor give you? If the top speed ends up close to the same (higher kv/lower voltage vs. Lower kv/ higher voltage) what is the gain?
Are the rx antennas right under the motor wires? Would that effect reception or the signal sent to the motors? Love your videos Stew! Keep up the awesome work.
Hello everybody! this is my first 5 inch and my idea was to fly in 4s. Ive got a bunch of 3 inches and tinywhoops but something bigger is always scary. I bought this one looking for a more floaty experience than my xjb 145. Now my question is: ¿Should i keep it as it is or change something? ¿Should i change the FC stack (for something like the mamba and learn on 4s and progress to 6s) or change the motors (4s motors and go for a 5 inch experience)?
It costs roughly the same as a Babyhawk-R 3" plus a few batteries. Just buy the 'hawk I say if you want to get into the hobby. Better speed too. I'd never recommend anything from Eashine to a beginner. The risk of gremlins is waaay too high. They've had some neat ideas recently, but whenever I hear "Eashine" it is preceded by "So I bought a [insert thing here] from" and followed by "but it was broken on arrival so I got another one and that one did some weird stuff that I managed to fix and now it's ok I guess..."
I don't understand.. Got this frame for few mounth now, only flying 6s and never had this problem even tho I did NOT change anything in betaflight.. It might be fixed now so maybe give it a new run ?
i've just bought one 2 weeks ago... i think i will return it as soon as it arrives and order a different drone i think i'm going for a emax hawk 5 👌🏻 although a good video and thank you to tell us the truth that this drone makes no sense to buy (should do 6s but isn't able to...)^^
Have you tried the vtx of the second one in the first one? Just for the sake of benefit of the doubt? Jb just reviewed one which actually flew on 6s.... nevertheless the quality control of eachine is sucky, better you build yourself. Thanks stu 👍
Hi Stu huge fan . Quick couple questions,so should I buy the wizard X220or a wizard X220 S or the wizard X220 HV . It’s definitely not my first brushless drone but it will be my first freestyle or Racer drone and I’ve been flying her for about two years I have a Traxxas Aton And I do fly that in acro. so I’ve heard pluses and negatives about all of the eachine but I definitely want one of them and did so much research on these three And I have the eachine wizard goggles coming the $105 pair With DVR And the trainees X7 Transmitter I definitely only want to fly 4s or 5s . Sorry to keep babbling but my question is should I get the The X220 hv with 4s and 5s would that still be better than the first two models ? whatever you say I’m pretty much going with. I’ve been watching your videos for two years . I can really have chemistry the way you communicate your reviews for that thank you
I don't get eachine. They still not learned from their mistakes of pushing unfinished products. Ts215 was first released with massive lag caused by dvr. Then they fix it in later revisions. X220s with spongy arms which was also fixed in later revision and now this. They need test pilots to go through their products before releasing. Please work with some decent pilots to stop this disappointment. Frame looks good. Spec are sweet on paper but it's still a fixer upper
I really thought they done it right this time..... When will eachine do it in one time right that will get them happy costumers! I think I will wait a little too upgrade from my x220s....
i have this drone (I started with this drone) and im having problem with the fpv( certainly because im not an expert) but since the first fly i use a 6s battery and the drone fly perfectly
Great vid Stew.. For sure eachine is hit and miss its almost like they rush to get the product and and end up loosing more in the end.. Maybe they should stick to micros/whoop quads.
Hi, since I was about 6 or 7 droning has always been what I wanted to give a go when I was older and had the money (and also a bigger house in the countryside), now,at the age of 15, we have finally moved away and I have moved schools after finding the perfect house in the countryside. After saving for a couple of years I have accumulated around £200 and would love to buy an amazing drone not only to have fun with but to capture the natural beauty around me. If anyone could help me out or provide me with a bit more of info that would be much appreciated. -Tom
Mine did the death roll on the second 5s pack I flew. Hit the ground from only about 10ft up and snapped the arm like nothin. Thought I was bein safe in 5s. No good 👎🏼
@@bradn1559 oh man, sorry to hear that. I'm a little scared too, because I'm waiting for mine to come in a day or two. Maybe I should contact BG customer service in advance...
It's a crying shame, Eachine was SO close to getting a stellar cheap freestyle quad. As it stands it looks like they need a more stable 4in1, test fly it and add some shielding under the VTX. Personally I would prefer a version with higher kv motors.
Hello from Spain its a good 6S version but change in the CLI this : Desconectar Runaway del dron en Betaflight: 1º. Set runaway_takeoff_prevention = OFF 2º. Save Listo And Tattu 6S V3 1300mph 120C and never falls down :-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) and i flay all my Drones with GPS Beitan 220 rescue mode and Failsafe so it can not go away !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You really should have considered to tell what the issue is. At least try 5s. But if it really is just that 1 cli command line - there I do not see an issue at all, since for that price the fix would be a no brainer, if only you would tell.
You forgot to mention that it comes with a Speedbee Wireless Chip, or Board, tucked away in the back, that gives you not only Smart Audio,, but You can go into Full On Beta Flight,, and btw ,, I havnt had one 6s flip of death yet ,, maybe I got really lucky... ?! , Anyways, still a bargain at that price,, just dampened the fc abit more might correct the issue, or simply spend 20 bucks on another fc, or 30 on Kakute??
I dont think eachine knows what they are doing or has slave labor putting these together cause its like the concept is there but the execution is just bad. Who knows what the actual specs are of the components they mixed in they may be too light to handle 6s and or they went cheap somewhere. I thinkll itll be all ironed out...its seemed all the wizard releases were not day 1 buys and had issues, then later improved with the later batches.
this is why even with my whoops, except for the ew pro 2 75 i build. I will not buy from bandgood. And like alot of RC stuff. Awesome idea but very poorly executed.
Wizard link - bit.ly/WIZhv + if anyone is interested here is the form that you enter for a giveaway. - goo.gl/forms/Wu2v7mRtcnAEfDYl2
UAVfutures I never have luck with drawings but maybe you could sell me one like 25% off or something... I would love to have one to teach my kids in the neighborhood
I live in an area most call low income or ghetto and would really like to get the youth into flying these
I've been trying to get this form to load for 2 weeks now lol finally got it 👍
13:34 lol what happened here
UAVfutures I been wanting one of these
The 6s problem can be fixed by the cli gyro_overflow_decet = off
I had the same thing with my 1st 6s rig running 1850kv 2207 motors on 6s and 4 inch props ... the punch up set it into no gyro mode and would death roll for a few seconds then come back on line ... too much instant thrust
Need to remember that
Try this Stew!
Has anyone actually tried this I’d be keen to find out
@@daviddasilva8419 yes I did with my setup haha not this quad it's self though ... would of liked him to put a vtx in the 1st one and try it
Hey Stew i'd just like to say that you have been such a great inspiration to me and to many. Although the only drones ive flown were the cheap brushed mini drones. Youre doing a great salad to the people youre giving away these drones to. And i hope God blesses you and your family for the great work youre doing in this world.
Thanks Stew. Some reviewers loved it. Glad to see the real deal.
Thanks Stu was interested in this when I saw components looked like a good thing still waiting to buy first 5 inch quad thinking hawk 5 now cheers
Steven Suter you won’t be disappointed with the hawk 5. I got one a month ago. Smoothest quad I’ve ever flown and has an awesome tune out of the box
someone who says the letter H properly. I will only listen to them ;) what is interesting is only sharp inputs caused mine to desync and its 6 degrees C here yet yours does it on punch outs. I am now thinking its temperature related with it being summer where you are. I have tried EVERYTHING to get this reliable on 6s eachine tell me they are fixing it....
your review was great andy. I watched it and feel like they for sure need to fix what ever it is causing it
This starts looking like quad testing heighdsh Q.
I have a WizardHV located in QLD Australia and it goes fine.. flys on 4S and 6S.... My rates are over 1100deg/second
Seen all your attempts Andy at sorting this, and am impressed with your diligence, and amazed at your perseverance but move on mate, you reviewed it, its not your problem to fix it its eachines and unless they are paying you let them sort it.
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Quad Wizard perhaps its your name ;) send it into eachine and see whats difference cus they dont know why its doing it ;)
Stew and his friends (crew) are a unbelievable gem to the community. Fun/entertainment at its best!
Haha can’t believe I won thanks stew
Congrats man
Sweet!
hey mate, awesome for you to see, what was it like seeing your random name pop up, ive got a big smile on my face knowing you saw it here on video first rather than just seeing an email form me
UAVfutures hahha wasn’t expecting it hahahah I jumped up. Thanks
Congrats, now you have a desync to solve :)
Loving the videos! I am saving up now to get into the game! I have had to compile a ton of your videos to find the best route =D
After 6+ purchases of different brands of quads, only one of them works 100%, with the others sketchy and 2 that just stopped working. If brands would focus more on quality control, I think they could build some brand loyalty. Thanks UAV for highlighting the improvements and fails.
Joshua Bardwell flew it on 6s just perfectly and it flew great!
Yea if flew great until it did the ☠️ DEATH ROLL and he had to walk down his neighbors driveway to get it back lol.
I've smashed my poor old Wizard into the ground so many times, I'm a amazed that it still flies. I only use it for exploring new places to fly now (built myself an Armattan Rooster) but it's super durable, and I've never had to replace any arms.
Super fun to fly, very user friendly, and cheap enough to be brave with.
I speculate the death spirals were caused by air braking causing voltage spikes from the motors back through the ESCs and FC and resetting them. That might be why people got them on 6s and not as often on 4s, or 6s was just much for some units in general. I don't have one so I can't test.
I use an empty pizza box for a launch pad, keeps the blades out of the grass.
I'd try it on 5s.
Try to lower the Start Force in BLHeli if u have this and get De-syncs. Try 0.125 or lower.
thanks but AndyRc i think already covered this and feels this should have no effect. Do you think that this helps with the flips of death during hard maneouvres? Thanks
@@Fpv_Dad , worth a shot. It is easy to change. Fixed me up one time for sure.
Try to raise the digital idle %. It's set to 2.5 which is low for these 6s motors
I think the best thing to do is to change the 4in one esc, those motors are beautiful and incredibly smooth. If you were to switch them id get those 6s samguk ones
Don't go near it is what I say, it looks the tits but it don't work properly. If we buy shit like this that needs modding straight out of the box its like an endorsement for them, and that's just wrong. Come on would you buy a brand new car that didn't work?
What is 6S and 4S.....?
Thank you so much for getting me into FPV
Have you tried changing the demag compensation in blheli to help with d sinks?
Try it on 5S HV for Freestyle and Racing and 6S for Cruising and I think it needs a good tune and a 50V Capacitor remedy the desync issue.
Great review as usual. I'm just curious why this didn't get the boot like the Fuuton 2 since it comes with all of these problems out of the box.
Tell us what kind of stick ends are you using on your x-lite? They look bigger than the stock ones.
For an absolute noob and one whom prefers a physical drone instead of a remote & sim, is the Eachine E013 still a good value for money package in 2019 as the video on this was back in 2017? I ask as discord simply said do not go cheap when I raised the same question and simply said get the remote and a sim. If I enjoy the experience, the little package can go to my young son anyway to have some fun but wanted recommendations with consideration of keeping cost low while exploring the idea of the hobby
Beginner looking to get started, and I"m always so put off by setting up the remote and all that, and I have no clue on soldering. Is there an all in one package that comes with a remote, decent full size drone, and goggles? I really want to fly but the whole setup on the PC is kinda a block for me at the moment
Gotta stalker out the window? haha. Cheers man! Great review!
Thanks for reading my comment to review this
Nice review, hopefully they can get this straightened out.
I wish you've try using 5s maybe it will work
What happened to the Aomways?
What type of Spektrum receiver do you recommend for the BNF version?
@uavfutures i see some nice big stick ends on your x-lite :p what are those?? and where can i get them ? :p
What advantage does a lower kv but higher voltage rated motor give you? If the top speed ends up close to the same (higher kv/lower voltage vs. Lower kv/ higher voltage) what is the gain?
Are the rx antennas right under the motor wires? Would that effect reception or the signal sent to the motors? Love your videos Stew! Keep up the awesome work.
Thanks for the review!
iFlight Nazgul5 227mm 6S OR Eachine Wizard X220S ??
@UAVfutures . . . This is easily fixed. Lower the startup power in BlHeli, and raise the digital idle to at least 6
Hello everybody! this is my first 5 inch and my idea was to fly in 4s. Ive got a bunch of 3 inches and tinywhoops but something bigger is always scary. I bought this one looking for a more floaty experience than my xjb 145. Now my question is: ¿Should i keep it as it is or change something? ¿Should i change the FC stack (for something like the mamba and learn on 4s and progress to 6s) or change the motors (4s motors and go for a 5 inch experience)?
It costs roughly the same as a Babyhawk-R 3" plus a few batteries. Just buy the 'hawk I say if you want to get into the hobby. Better speed too. I'd never recommend anything from Eashine to a beginner. The risk of gremlins is waaay too high. They've had some neat ideas recently, but whenever I hear "Eashine" it is preceded by "So I bought a [insert thing here] from" and followed by "but it was broken on arrival so I got another one and that one did some weird stuff that I managed to fix and now it's ok I guess..."
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It's like a pokemon trying to say something
I need to know more about that JackZoom board!
I don't understand.. Got this frame for few mounth now, only flying 6s and never had this problem even tho I did NOT change anything in betaflight.. It might be fixed now so maybe give it a new run ?
Haha, that dam fly made my ears tingle making me swipe it away (wearing headphones)
Is it fully carbon now, or carbon/plastic sandwich like the original Wizard?
i've just bought one 2 weeks ago...
i think i will return it as soon as it arrives and order a different drone i think i'm going for a emax hawk 5 👌🏻
although a good video and thank you to tell us the truth that this drone makes no sense to buy (should do 6s but isn't able to...)^^
Have you tried the vtx of the second one in the first one? Just for the sake of benefit of the doubt? Jb just reviewed one which actually flew on 6s.... nevertheless the quality control of eachine is sucky, better you build yourself. Thanks stu 👍
Hi Stu huge fan . Quick couple questions,so should I buy the wizard X220or a wizard X220 S or the wizard X220 HV . It’s definitely not my first brushless drone but it will be my first freestyle or Racer drone and I’ve been flying her for about two years I have a Traxxas Aton And I do fly that in acro. so I’ve heard pluses and negatives about all of the eachine but I definitely want one of them and did so much research on these three And I have the eachine wizard goggles coming the $105 pair With DVR And the trainees X7 Transmitter I definitely only want to fly 4s or 5s . Sorry to keep babbling but my question is should I get the The X220 hv with 4s and 5s would that still be better than the first two models ? whatever you say I’m pretty much going with. I’ve been watching your videos for two years . I can really have chemistry the way you communicate your reviews for that thank you
I don't get eachine. They still not learned from their mistakes of pushing unfinished products. Ts215 was first released with massive lag caused by dvr. Then they fix it in later revisions. X220s with spongy arms which was also fixed in later revision and now this. They need test pilots to go through their products before releasing. Please work with some decent pilots to stop this disappointment. Frame looks good. Spec are sweet on paper but it's still a fixer upper
I really thought they done it right this time..... When will eachine do it in one time right that will get them happy costumers! I think I will wait a little too upgrade from my x220s....
Can i use 4s 1550 75c ? Im new too the hobby
No more amoway comanders v1 huh? Upgrade to the HDO's did ya?
Can i used 4s?maybe too slow?
what 4s motor do you recommend for someone that has this and wants to convert this to 4s?
i have this drone (I started with this drone) and im having problem with the fpv(
certainly because im not an expert) but since the first fly i use a 6s battery and the drone fly perfectly
could of shown us what studio gear your using lol :-)
I would have liked to have seen the Stewdeo gear.;)
Hahaah nice desync =) my friend got one of these and flew good on 4s havent tried the 6s yet.
Better than x220s ?
Might steer clear of this one with my skills won’t last long
love the vids man. would love to get back into fpv just can't afford it at the moment. :(
Great vid Stew.. For sure eachine is hit and miss its almost like they rush to get the product and and end up loosing more in the end.. Maybe they should stick to micros/whoop quads.
Drone Fart, Great Handle bud Ha !
You should put some motors on the mushroom and fly it. lol
Hi, since I was about 6 or 7 droning has always been what I wanted to give a go when I was older and had the money (and also a bigger house in the countryside), now,at the age of 15, we have finally moved away and I have moved schools after finding the perfect house in the countryside. After saving for a couple of years I have accumulated around £200 and would love to buy an amazing drone not only to have fun with but to capture the natural beauty around me. If anyone could help me out or provide me with a bit more of info that would be much appreciated.
-Tom
Txcm you already have a drone?
Honestly id suggest the Meaty Boi Diatone GT-M540 over anything spend a little more for amazing quality.
MEATY BOI FTW yes
What about flying it on 5s?
Mine did the death roll on the second 5s pack I flew. Hit the ground from only about 10ft up and snapped the arm like nothin. Thought I was bein safe in 5s. No good 👎🏼
@@bradn1559 oh man, sorry to hear that. I'm a little scared too, because I'm waiting for mine to come in a day or two. Maybe I should contact BG customer service in advance...
Looks like a classic - an Alien rep.
you know they make 5 s batteries ?
Hey you brought back the chop stick! Woohoo! You should make, give away custom UAV Futures chop sticks!
What about 5s?
Not even a mention of it :/
It's a crying shame, Eachine was SO close to getting a stellar cheap freestyle quad. As it stands it looks like they need a more stable 4in1, test fly it and add some shielding under the VTX. Personally I would prefer a version with higher kv motors.
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every punch makes it flip on 6s
C'mon Stu, where is the props off for the boys? I need to feel like I'm at summernats again haha
I like turtles
Thanks for spending the time reviewing. 21st comment!
You should get something from the scimitar series from horizon and review it. I would really like to see it.
Hello from Spain its a good 6S version but change in the CLI this : Desconectar Runaway del dron en Betaflight:
1º. Set runaway_takeoff_prevention = OFF
2º. Save
Listo And Tattu 6S V3 1300mph 120C and never falls down :-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) and i flay all my Drones with GPS Beitan 220 rescue mode and Failsafe so it can not go away !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I guess you could say this drone wasn’t a 6S (haha get it!)
im thinking nothing is setup in betaflight.
Front row seats?! Is that a special patreon perk? ;-)
I heard the mushroom antenna will get you sky high... :)
Did I miss something? Stu! Fatsharks!
That fly was at least 3S.
You really should have considered to tell what the issue is. At least try 5s. But if it really is just that 1 cli command line - there I do not see an issue at all, since for that price the fix would be a no brainer, if only you would tell.
Lol those death rolls it does are nice though perfect form
Very apt that the fly came in to have a look at this. " they love shit" !!!!!!
You forgot to mention that it comes with a Speedbee Wireless Chip, or Board, tucked away in the back, that gives you not only Smart Audio,, but You can go into Full On Beta Flight,, and btw ,, I havnt had one 6s flip of death yet ,, maybe I got really lucky... ?! , Anyways, still a bargain at that price,, just dampened the fc abit more might correct the issue, or simply spend 20 bucks on another fc, or 30 on Kakute??
Dang I clicked right as I got the notification and there’s already people before me! Oof
Grackle FPV right wtf!
and you never mentioned speedy bee
Step the hell back lol Granger
nice one
Why didnt you try 5S..!? Smh.
I dont think eachine knows what they are doing or has slave labor putting these together cause its like the concept is there but the execution is just bad. Who knows what the actual specs are of the components they mixed in they may be too light to handle 6s and or they went cheap somewhere. I thinkll itll be all ironed out...its seemed all the wizard releases were not day 1 buys and had issues, then later improved with the later batches.
5s????
Doesn't really matter what's good about it, if it doesn't even fly. Glad your holding Eachine to task, because they're NOT getting any better.
Wow....just wow lol
👍👍
first first
May I have 1 for free? You are the greatest!!!!
Just cause you have a nice collection doesn’t mean you have to help me out but it would be AWESOME
It's the Flight Controller that's causing the de-sync, just letting you know in case someone wants to buy this junk.
this is why even with my whoops, except for the ew pro 2 75 i build. I will not buy from bandgood.
And like alot of RC stuff. Awesome idea but very poorly executed.