So, here's my experience with Eachine. I bought an X220S as my first quad earlier this year. I have since replaced every single component one at a time as it either failed or just wasn't up to my expectations. In other words, it is an entirely new quad now. The last thing to get changed was the flight controller. So I guess I learned the hard (expensive) way. But I have to say, I have learned a stupid amount in a very short time for it. And I was able to fly maybe 40 packs or more before anything needed work. So, I suppose these quads have their place in our ever-changing hobby.
JB's first video of the year; and a great one to start out! Thanks! I almost bought a X220 but then as a noob WTH was I going to do when it broke? So I jumped in and built my own; I didn't know squat 2 months ago about quads but thanks to JB (and others) I now know how to replace everything on the quad when it breaks! It was a huge and steep learning curve but so worth it
The pain is so worth it. Buying one is for some people but building is half the fun and you get to learn how things work so you can ix it if it needs. Good on you!
Interesting . And I'm VERY glad you reiterated about the speedy bee feature . Totally forgotten about that and I'm SO totally over lugging a laptop in my backpack for minor expo tweaking😩
I was INTENDING to make a review of this quad, but the ESC was bad for me as well. Multiple death spirals ending in a broken arm. It's just sitting on my desk now, probably going to swap the motors onto another build and forget it. AndyRC had the same issue. Here are my first 2 flights if you're interested, death spirals included. ua-cam.com/video/OKT98KgYgnE/v-deo.html
Excellent review, great! Honest and sincere, I love the way you work! I bought one of those stupid eachine machines and now I'm dealing with the same ESC problem as many other naïve costumers who believed in the product. I wish we find a solution.
Wow, it really looks awesome. I've never bought a wizard just because but, I've noticed a trend of BNF's that have a surprisingly high quality feel and durable.
Great video, Josh. In the vein of 6S and failed ESCs, I would love to see you do a video on this very subject - why they fail, how they fail, troubleshooting desyncs, BlHeli32 tips, etc. Since I jumped into 6S I have had nothing but problems with 4-1 ESCs desyncing and blowing up. I have gone through at least 3 Hobbywing and a couple of Aikon AK32 (v1) ESCs. In fact, my buddy just maidened a new 6S build yesterday with a Spedix and it was desyncing horribly. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Oh u mean just 4 in 1s I don't do 4 in 1s at all. I bought one from raceflight way back. it went up in smoke pretty quickly and that was the end of that.
It's great to see eachine actually improving their stuff at least a bit. That's much better than just trying to push the bottom of the barrel cheapest stuff possible.
The HV is an awesome, high performance machine, being straight "out the box." It's capable of running "up" to a 6S if we need that 6S power occasionally but I'm sure they can't run on a 6S indefinitely without potentially breaking something in the meantime. Liken Top Fuel dragsters with an engine life app. 25 sec before an overhaul and not due to faulty engine parts...things wear out and blow up with that kind of exertion and force on anything... I'm sure there's a rocket scientist out there that can measure G Forces and the various stresses on these machines as we jack these things around the sky...they're phenomenal... I love your reviews, but I can't say you gave this one a fair shot, buddy.... I learned something today. Keep up the good work...
is this a good combo for getting into the hobby?: •eachine wizard x220s hv •flight controller that comes in the box •5s battery •eachine ev100 fpv googles •some other props
I've been looking at all three x220 recently, and I was wondering why they give extra spare Power Distribution Board with the x220HV. After watching JB's video today it all makes sense. In the long run, as my first 220 quad I think I am going for the very first one tbh. I wanna fly with 4S batteries and the 1650kv motors on x220hv potentially are under-powered in terms of kick. On the x220s they cheaped out on the frame, making it a carbon outside - plexiglass/fiberglass on the inside kind of hybrid, which results in top bracked to just brake off with the battery and the straps. Shame really.
What happened with that inverted yaw spin? A esc went out? Why? Then how much does it cost for a 4-in-1 esc? burn out 1 gotta pay $35 a pop? def not good if this thing has issues with something being spotty like that. im about to order a 220HV just to have it...very excited when I saw this pop up and hearing how it screams in the air with the stick to the plastic.
you can buy a single esc and override one of the escs in the 4-in-1 for a fast solution. Otherwise I'd just contact the vendor to get either a replacement quad or just the 4-in-1 esc (cause yes if you want a proper fix you have to replace the whole 4-in-1, either that or you have great knowledge of working on pcbs and a lot of spare time to try and fiddle with the broken 4-in-1)
@@hawkhunter8180 im guessing something electronic like maybe the ESCs arent built to spec for 6s. Cause he was just flying and it lost it. If you lose a motor/esc thats it it falls out of the sky like that. I lost a ESC on my regular OG 220 wizard but it was after I crashed hard from hitting the ground...it didnt give out while flying but seemingly thats what Josh is referring to just they fail randomly.
There is a few other videos about the hv going into the death spin after making fast flips. Hope it gets figured out, was planning on ordering one this week.
@@Eville140 yeah no shit, ill get one but probably after the 2nd or 3rd batch shipments hoping they fix the issues. I waited a long while to get the x220 wizard when it was on sale and really havent had any failure issues not of my own personal doing.
I have had some Racerstar single ESC that would do that "deathroll" fairly often when I did a quick 180 backflip to frontflip. The fix was changing the "startup power" in blheli suite. I think they were set to 0.500 or something and I had to set them to 0.125. This was the case for several esc I came across by them. Maybe a change like that may help if that behavior continues.
I started with an x220. My second pack the esc started on fire. I talked to Banggood and they sent a new one. Luckily I knew how to solder a bit, but it took a month to get the replacement esc. A few packs later another one burned up, and then another one. I flew probably a total of maybe 8 packs in the first 3-4 months I had it because I was waiting on new escs. I finally just bought some good escs on my own. The quad isn't as cheap as it would seem if you have to pay to fix it so quick. On a positive note, I still have the frame and I still fly it. It has all new guts and I've had to replace the top plate a couple times, but the rest of it is solid. I've crashed it a bunch and I've never broken an arm (knock on wood).
I have this quad, been flying for a week on 4s batteries with no problem. I have ordered some 5s amd 6s batteries to try them out. The 4s on the wizard hv flys great, but it lacks punch. Hoping 5s does the trick. Lastly, the esc failed on 6s after your very aggressive flying (very nice btw), however i wouldn't think the average pilot purchasing it (like myself) could push it that hard (to failure) based on skill level. Nor would a top pilot buy this quad. Just my .02
No, I disagree. The flying I was doing is not that aggressive. There is absolutely no reason any good ESC and motor would have any problem with what I'm doing. For goodness' sake, I clipped a branch and it fell out of the air with a desync. That's a problem.
@@JoshuaBardwell You are definitely the expert here, so would the ESC be as likely to fail on 4s as it would on 6s? Or would the likelyhood increase with voltage?
@@infravision69 my guess is a brownout. As the load is much lower with 4s, you won't have any problems. When the rate of acceleration is very high, you get a current spike, which may just be enough to upset the internal power supply of the 4-in-1 ESC. Unfortunately, this probably can't be fixed by ESC settings such as timing or similar... Maybe by relaxing P/D terms of the PID, but this will impact flight performance.
@@kain0m absolutely correct here and as usual Joshua is right, this isn't good enough to just accept, it should be fine no matter what or who is flying.
@@kain0m Brownout is too simplistic. It could be the cause, but my guess is something like an odd trace length next to the back-EMF detection that allows for EMI to cause immediate desyncs. Either way, that ESC experiences desyncs within the expected flight envelope, and considering the known possibility of that happening, why risk a $150 drone (or $250 plus with HD cam - and this is ignoring liability) when the correct replacement part is $28 - or get a different setup that is somewhere within that cost differential.
Bummer that it looks like they didn't overcome the reliability bugs that have plagued them in the past. Newcomers especially need a quad that does not do strange random things like that. Wonder if running 4s on it would be good for a beginner and if it would be a touch more reliable?
That would be my suggestion - should be more reliable on 4S and 5S, but if it's some odd trace that picks up EMI and causes desyncs, that may not fix it. It's still frustrating to have a quad that is 95% solid parts, and something show-stopping that could have been fixed. Having to replace the 4-in-1 is basically a deal-breaker for any new pilot that happens to
I got into this hobby because of the original Wizard X220 and even though I received one with a defective flight controller, I just got a Raceflight revolt and that wizard lasted me for many months and loads of flights and got me to where I am today. Quality is a bit of an issue but I still think it is probably the best way to get into FPV racing/freestyle.
@@Disinterested1 well that and its something you can actually work on..theres a crowd of amateur fliers that dont want to mess with the "hobbyist" side of things having to work on and solder and change out parts so they buy the plane jane brushless quads, but then when they break(and they do) you have to buy specific near OEM parts at a more premium price since thats the only parts that you can use. On the wizard if something goes out you just match the part to specs, or if need you want upgrade a bit.
Hi Josh! That would look great beside my TS215! Really impressed with the last few releases from Eachine. Looks like they finally hired a designer with pride!
Great review! I’m glad explained why cheap isn’t always good. I had to learn that one the hard way when I built my first cheap quad parts! No I go for quality... and it’s the best thing I’ve done! 🔥 🔥 🔥
Every product has guys who love it and those who hate it. The same was with x220s. I'm flying it for 6 months, 200- 300 packs for sure, probably even many more. Ram it in to the ground many times a day. I've never broke an arm, beside side plates occasionally popping out and antenna mount broken very soon, it still flies quite good (oh, and a tonne of props). Why should I spend time contemplating what parts should I order, doing research what frames, motors, FC, ESC, plugs, connectors, antennas, cables, cameras are compatible, waiting for those parts to come, still doing research, because something wouldn't fit for sure, waiting for parts again, put it together, soldering, trial and erroring... To save a few bucks?! After doing all that, who will guarantee me it will fly? Who says it wouldn't go in to death roll, or something even worse, maybe magic smoke because of my soldering job? At the end of day, driving home from a job I just want to stop at my favourite place and in less than a minute I'm ready to fly. The 220hv has very good parts, the quality of work putting it together is way better then my 220s, and ages ahead of original x220. So yes, I ordered a x220hv and can't wait getting it to the air!
Just because it'll take 6S doesn't mean a new pilot has to use 6S. I suspect that ESC will handle 4S and 5S batteries substantially better. Run 4S on this, and it'll have all the same extra control and error margin that starting on 3S used to supply, but with the added benefit of being very cost effective. When you decide you want more speed, toss on some more aggressive propellers (a $3 change), or find some cheap 5S batteries, and call it good.
@@JoshuaBardwell It definitely is underpowered (for giggles, I flew a really good 1750KV setup to see just how bad)... in the same way that 3S 2300KV is underpowered. On T5050C's, and RK5051's it's less bad, but same concept (again, just threw the most aggressive props I had left in the bin at it). For anybody flying at 25° camera angle or lower starting out, I'd argue it's actually not underpowered (but doesn't provide lots of growth ceiling. I actually do really like that KV range on 5S, especially since those are cheap packs from time to time... but the biggest caveat here is that I still race 2000KV rigs on 4S and have solid results (albeit at 75% the pace of champion pilots). I wish Eachine would do a Wizard 226HV that is running 1850KV motors on a 6" frame. It would do proximity well on 4S 5", cruise effortlessly on 4S 6", be an excellent all-around and long range rig on 5S, and still be capable of racing on 6S with 5" props... but that's just me projecting the concept I build with onto Eachine, who is probably struggling to keep requisite parts coming in the door to keep selling these.
Those dummy screws... I think perhaps they were installed upside-down. If the nut was on the top side of the frame, you could get at them with a wrench
I like the new (if its new xD i didnt see it on any of your older vids that i watched) graphic with all the specs, its nice to get a good idead of the drone before the vid. top quallity vid as always x)
Actually thee's a guy here on YT who tested USA made bolts vs Chinese (Taiwan) bolts, a lot of times he found the 8.8 from China were as strong as the 10.9 from the USA. The likely cause is the USA has stricter QA and can make the bolts close to the actual specs, but the Taiwan bolts, in an attempt to cut back on QC checks, just made the bolts a little better. You may think this is good but actually unless you just want "the toughest bolt" you can get. I suppose that's almost every application, but some equipment is engineered to use bolts as a failure point in case of over stressing, in that case you would want the bolt to be close to the spec because you designed it to fail at the load you picked. Pretty much anything you're making at home or putting on a quad copter though the higher grade is just fine. I got long winded but basically those 10.9 bolts are quite surprising to see on an aliexpress type electronic.
Looks like a great quad. Me personally I started out with the x220 and has been a great learning curve with me and I have slammed in to ground many time on black top and everything. With min damage. Now I will say didn’t take me long to upgrade the crappy esc. And flight controller just went out. But it gives me the opportunity to replace all the guts with the f405 mamba and f40 esc. And sunny sky 2306 motors. But as a beginner. The eachine x220 was a lot for me to get used to on 3s but once I was used to it I hit the 4s. I can only imagine a beginner starting out with this. It would scare the crap outta me for sure. But over all eachine has gave me a great learning curve to get more comfortable with the hobby and confidence on repairing. If fixing and soldering is something your not into. I’d stick with a King Kong et models. Know one has anything bad to say about them👍
Its like anything in this hobby, you can either build, or by one built already. No matter what, you need to know how to work on it, and mod things. Personal thought, for the price, its a nice setup. If the 4 in one esc is problematic, id upgrade it right away. So you really have to figure out if you are just the average Joe who flys drones, ir are you the hobbiest who makes things work if there is an oversight by the manufacturer? Nice honest review Joshua, thumbs up!
Hello My Wizard x220 keeps losing Board and Sensor Alignment I set it to 270. But when I go into the setup Betaflight it shows the drone as it as 0. I am running 4.0.6 firmware and Betaflight 10.7.0. Also when I check the motors in Betaflight all four spin at the same time but when I arm the drone I only get two motors spinning and I cannot take off. Please help Joshua Bardwell Thanks
12:28 damn, i think this is the best sound evah for a racing drone i ever heard.... love to hear the screaming... very pleasant to intimidate in the pre race session... LOL
My Wizard ESC just died on me today after the second Deathroll. Just did 6 Packs on it. Actually 4S works well but 6S seems to be too much for it. But the Fun part: As I ordered my Wizard in February, they sent a free PDB 😂 I am going for 4 ESC‘s in the future and will let you know about the outcome. Until then, I will build a new Kwad with more durable parts on the Source One Frame.
@Joshua Bardwell noticed the header connector from FC to ESC was not fully seated in your video. Any possibility the header pins disconnected briefly under hard G's? I may be a sucker and bought one since I'm mostly into 3" micros and below, but wanted to try 5" 6S, and it was very cheap on promo. Just in case I also ordered a Mamba stack to replace that stack if needed. Also ordered metal M3 x 6mm standoffs for the existing to prevent header connector shear in a hard crash. Moved my main battery connector to the left side to get rid of video noise.
Fantastic, JB. My only problem with this quad is really the 6s packs... If they had put some 2400kv motors in it... Well, it would worth buying and replacing the flight stack with a Mamba stack, for example. I may wanna try 6s someday... But definitely not now.
You could run it on 4S and 5S no problem - toss on some 5150 props with 5S and you'll have 95% of the performance, but you can find solid $20 5S 1500mAh packs. If you're looking at a Mamba stack, just build a whole quad around that. ALFA Monster, Mamba F405 Stack, VTX03, iFlight/RCX Motors, Caddx F2, and you're hitting the same price point but with better stuff all around.
You need a section on your website for little useful tips like the proper post-flight resting voltage thing you mentioned. I'd never heard that before and little things like that are really useful!
Another great review... if I want a 5" with 6S, what to buy for reasonable money? I just hope that the Eachine EV200D we just bought are better than the E013 and E010 I got that never got from the ground. Burnt PDB and no access to boot pads... new PDB on the way to both of them.
Looks like Eachine is stepping up their game, but still there is a challenge to build to both a quality and price standard. I started with a Wizard X220 (and had an ESC catch fire in flight). Would use a X200HV as a club newbie model on 4S (slow tank). This combined with some sim training would get most people able to fly safely.
Many pilots buying this have had similar results, and it isn’t a low throttle issue either. Adding insult to injury, many have broke arms on this, at the exact same point, so it would seem, it not only falls out of the sky, it breaks in the same place on the frame. At the cost of this quad, it would almost be worth buying, and swapping it to another frame, as well as, swapping out the 4 in 1. It’s a disappointing ending, to what seemed like, a great story!
Anyone ever get a Spektrum DSMX Quad Race Serial Receiver with Diversity (SPM4648) to work with the F4 FC on this? I know the SPM4649T works on TX3, but I have tried connecting to UART6 RC pin, RX3, TX3, TX1, none work. If this F4 FC is the same as other F4 V5s, then only UART1 is non-inverting, required for the SPM4648 - those FC usually have a dedicated DSM2/DSMX connector or RX pad, this FC does not.
I just got a x220hv and I had an extra FS-iA6B receiver lying around. I have been trying to hook my quad up with this receiver and it seems to me that common sense would dictate that since the original wizard x220 shipped with this same receiver, that the newest version would at least support it. Am I wrong? In speedy bee I get an error message saying it can't find a receiver signal even though I'm hooked up, paired, and the LED on the receiver is on (not blinking). I tried arming / disarming but the error message doesn't go away and no input can be detected from the sticks. Has anyone else tried this or had a similar problem with the hv?
Hello JB, I got some problem with my conetting wayering on my eachine wizard x220hv - ESC 45A 4 in 1 (the old) to my beta flight omnibus STM 32F4 F4 Pro V3 flight controller Built in OSD(just buy) . Hope I can learn it from you. Thanks
Great review - having watched your review and AndyRC’s multiple reviews, and picking-up on your last comment - the solution may be to replace the motors with 4s spec motors and leave it at that. Replacing the stack looks to be about the same cost as replacing the motors and a lot more work. Do you think the ESC can handle 4S without death rolls?
Hi, I have a question. I own 4 quadcopters so I know how to handle it but I have no experience with fpv racing and I wanna buy my first fpv quadcopter and equipment. Do you think eachine wizard X220HV is a good choice for me? And if yes, I have another questions... Can I use flysky fs-i6 transmitter and receiver to fly this wizard? (Because I already have a fs-i6 transmitter). And also what googles would you recommend me? What about eachine ev100.... are they good and can I use it for this wizard? Thanks and a have a good day :)
hello Joshua, I am very noob in this hobby and this is my first FPV Quad but i am trying to config everything and i would like o config Bluetooth like you show in a video about speedybee but i don't see which pin it is Bluetooth adapter using to turn it off when the quad is arm, any idea how could i find it please, thanks a lot your videos are great support to beginners.
this was posted on UAV Futures for the Wizard HV..."The 6s problem can be fixed by the cli gyro_overflow_decet = off " I tried it and got unknown command
The issue is definitely not gyro overflow. I can hear the ESC rebooting when the issue happens. The parameter you are thinking of is gyro_overflow_detect
I know post is a bit older, but maybe someone could answer this...I just came of a year break due to injury at work. Last I flew, I heard of a few pilots using 6s, but 4s Lipos were still the big dogs. So when this quad says it's a 6s, does that mean you can't fly 4s, or just that it would be very under powered. I notice a lot of the toothpick and 3" quads are listed as 2s-3s or 2s-4s, so I wasn't sure about this Eachine Wizard. Btw, silly side note, what the hell happened to 5s lipos? Seems like it was all 4s then bam, everyone was talking about 6s. Do they even make them 5s lipos?
hi Mr Joshua. i have some questions: i want to but a racing drone. X220HV is better than X220S? if i buy one of this, i will change the ESCs. i understand that the stock ESCs have some problems. what do you prefer? (note that i m not a racing drone pilot, i use DJI. but i m learning to fly with simulation on PC)
2nd time I have seen those zebra striped clouds in a video. Cricket had one with crazy clouds back before christmas and now you have them. So strange looking.
The cam/vtx situation does not look good, though. Lots of noise, and the camera seemed to send black/white most of the time? The quad itself though, looks like a good buy.
I've hade high end esc go bad and budget esc so I'm not sure you get what you pay for just make sure it's a good company that you purchase from not to say BG is bad
Great video. I am determined to buy it, but I already have the T8SG V2 plus, so I will have to buy it without a station and the receiver will buy it separately. I have no experience in Deviation. Confirm me if I'm right. I would have to configure the drone first with Betafligth and Helli, assign the channels and then set up a new model with the Frysky protocol (assuming that it is the receiver), and then assign it to the MIxer channels according to what I put in Beafligth, Is that correct?
I need your desperately Joshua I want to buy that eachine kuad. 220 s and I'm a begginer and I'm practicing on my simulator I'm ready .does that cuad come with remote or do I have to buy it
Great video mr.bardwell as always...my comment I'm sorry to say though has nothing to do with the vid...ive yet to fly an fpv quad in the real world not because I'm afraid to...i just can't afford it the way companies price everything...every time I think about getting a( rtf) package because that's the way I would do it..its most always the same old story...great quad paired with junky goggles and radio and that's like 90% of the time...and if you do find a great (RTF) combo they ask for the earth and moon for it...if one company would just bite the bullet and give top of the line( RTF) combo at almost a loss..it could even come with a mediocre quad.. then more people could get into the hobby and be in it for the long run...theres millions to be made if done in the proper manner...people crash quads and need parts replaced..you don't crash goggles and radios..its a thought.
So, here's my experience with Eachine. I bought an X220S as my first quad earlier this year. I have since replaced every single component one at a time as it either failed or just wasn't up to my expectations. In other words, it is an entirely new quad now. The last thing to get changed was the flight controller. So I guess I learned the hard (expensive) way. But I have to say, I have learned a stupid amount in a very short time for it. And I was able to fly maybe 40 packs or more before anything needed work. So, I suppose these quads have their place in our ever-changing hobby.
JB's first video of the year; and a great one to start out! Thanks! I almost bought a X220 but then as a noob WTH was I going to do when it broke? So I jumped in and built my own; I didn't know squat 2 months ago about quads but thanks to JB (and others) I now know how to replace everything on the quad when it breaks! It was a huge and steep learning curve but so worth it
The pain is so worth it. Buying one is for some people but building is half the fun and you get to learn how things work so you can ix it if it needs. Good on you!
curious, hows fpv going currently for you?
Interesting . And I'm VERY glad you reiterated about the speedy bee feature . Totally forgotten about that and I'm SO totally over lugging a laptop in my backpack for minor expo tweaking😩
I was INTENDING to make a review of this quad, but the ESC was bad for me as well. Multiple death spirals ending in a broken arm. It's just sitting on my desk now, probably going to swap the motors onto another build and forget it. AndyRC had the same issue.
Here are my first 2 flights if you're interested, death spirals included. ua-cam.com/video/OKT98KgYgnE/v-deo.html
Excellent review, great! Honest and sincere, I love the way you work! I bought one of those stupid eachine machines and now I'm dealing with the same ESC problem as many other naïve costumers who believed in the product. I wish we find a solution.
Wait what... is this the Liftoff location?
The liftoff location is based on my house.
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Josh built his house based off the Liftoff location
What’s a lift of location?
@@kyleswehla785 its a location in a fpv simulator thats named lift off
Wow, it really looks awesome. I've never bought a wizard just because but, I've noticed a trend of BNF's that have a surprisingly high quality feel and durable.
Great video, Josh. In the vein of 6S and failed ESCs, I would love to see you do a video on this very subject - why they fail, how they fail, troubleshooting desyncs, BlHeli32 tips, etc. Since I jumped into 6S I have had nothing but problems with 4-1 ESCs desyncing and blowing up. I have gone through at least 3 Hobbywing and a couple of Aikon AK32 (v1) ESCs. In fact, my buddy just maidened a new 6S build yesterday with a Spedix and it was desyncing horribly. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Lumenier 36 amp esc's from get fpv. They just work. They've worked for me with 6s.
Oh u mean just 4 in 1s I don't do 4 in 1s at all. I bought one from raceflight way back. it went up in smoke pretty quickly and that was the end of that.
It's great to see eachine actually improving their stuff at least a bit. That's much better than just trying to push the bottom of the barrel cheapest stuff possible.
The HV is an awesome, high performance machine, being straight "out the box." It's capable of running "up" to a 6S if we need that 6S power occasionally but I'm sure they can't run on a 6S indefinitely without potentially breaking something in the meantime. Liken Top Fuel dragsters with an engine life app. 25 sec before an overhaul and not due to faulty engine parts...things wear out and blow up with that kind of exertion and force on anything...
I'm sure there's a rocket scientist out there that can measure G Forces and the various stresses on these machines as we jack these things around the sky...they're phenomenal...
I love your reviews, but I can't say you gave this one a fair shot, buddy....
I learned something today. Keep up the good work...
is this a good combo for getting into the hobby?:
•eachine wizard x220s hv
•flight controller that comes in the box
•5s battery
•eachine ev100 fpv googles
•some other props
Looks Good !!!
Much better than some of the others..
Thanks again Joshua for the review and update!!
Congratulations on being on the rotor riot roster for 2019, just don’t slow down on your day job I love your videos even the long ones.
iI just want to say Josh I love watching your videos.
I've been looking at all three x220 recently, and I was wondering why they give extra spare Power Distribution Board with the x220HV. After watching JB's video today it all makes sense.
In the long run, as my first 220 quad I think I am going for the very first one tbh. I wanna fly with 4S batteries and the 1650kv motors on x220hv potentially are under-powered in terms of kick. On the x220s they cheaped out on the frame, making it a carbon outside - plexiglass/fiberglass on the inside kind of hybrid, which results in top bracked to just brake off with the battery and the straps. Shame really.
What happened with that inverted yaw spin? A esc went out? Why? Then how much does it cost for a 4-in-1 esc? burn out 1 gotta pay $35 a pop? def not good if this thing has issues with something being spotty like that.
im about to order a 220HV just to have it...very excited when I saw this pop up and hearing how it screams in the air with the stick to the plastic.
I too would like to know. I just got my HV and have not flown it yet. Please Josh post another video of the fix.
you can buy a single esc and override one of the escs in the 4-in-1 for a fast solution. Otherwise I'd just contact the vendor to get either a replacement quad or just the 4-in-1 esc (cause yes if you want a proper fix you have to replace the whole 4-in-1, either that or you have great knowledge of working on pcbs and a lot of spare time to try and fiddle with the broken 4-in-1)
@@hawkhunter8180 im guessing something electronic like maybe the ESCs arent built to spec for 6s. Cause he was just flying and it lost it. If you lose a motor/esc thats it it falls out of the sky like that. I lost a ESC on my regular OG 220 wizard but it was after I crashed hard from hitting the ground...it didnt give out while flying but seemingly thats what Josh is referring to just they fail randomly.
There is a few other videos about the hv going into the death spin after making fast flips. Hope it gets figured out, was planning on ordering one this week.
@@Eville140 yeah no shit, ill get one but probably after the 2nd or 3rd batch shipments hoping they fix the issues. I waited a long while to get the x220 wizard when it was on sale and really havent had any failure issues not of my own personal doing.
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His hex driver is shaking with excitement😂
I have had some Racerstar single ESC that would do that "deathroll" fairly often when I did a quick 180 backflip to frontflip. The fix was changing the "startup power" in blheli suite. I think they were set to 0.500 or something and I had to set them to 0.125. This was the case for several esc I came across by them. Maybe a change like that may help if that behavior continues.
I started with an x220. My second pack the esc started on fire. I talked to Banggood and they sent a new one. Luckily I knew how to solder a bit, but it took a month to get the replacement esc. A few packs later another one burned up, and then another one. I flew probably a total of maybe 8 packs in the first 3-4 months I had it because I was waiting on new escs. I finally just bought some good escs on my own. The quad isn't as cheap as it would seem if you have to pay to fix it so quick.
On a positive note, I still have the frame and I still fly it. It has all new guts and I've had to replace the top plate a couple times, but the rest of it is solid. I've crashed it a bunch and I've never broken an arm (knock on wood).
You don't need a Bluetooth adapter to use speedybee. I can use speedybee using usb otg (and you can too with most Android phones)
I have this quad, been flying for a week on 4s batteries with no problem. I have ordered some 5s amd 6s batteries to try them out. The 4s on the wizard hv flys great, but it lacks punch. Hoping 5s does the trick. Lastly, the esc failed on 6s after your very aggressive flying (very nice btw), however i wouldn't think the average pilot purchasing it (like myself) could push it that hard (to failure) based on skill level. Nor would a top pilot buy this quad. Just my .02
No, I disagree. The flying I was doing is not that aggressive. There is absolutely no reason any good ESC and motor would have any problem with what I'm doing. For goodness' sake, I clipped a branch and it fell out of the air with a desync. That's a problem.
@@JoshuaBardwell You are definitely the expert here, so would the ESC be as likely to fail on 4s as it would on 6s? Or would the likelyhood increase with voltage?
@@infravision69 my guess is a brownout. As the load is much lower with 4s, you won't have any problems. When the rate of acceleration is very high, you get a current spike, which may just be enough to upset the internal power supply of the 4-in-1 ESC. Unfortunately, this probably can't be fixed by ESC settings such as timing or similar... Maybe by relaxing P/D terms of the PID, but this will impact flight performance.
@@kain0m absolutely correct here and as usual Joshua is right, this isn't good enough to just accept, it should be fine no matter what or who is flying.
@@kain0m Brownout is too simplistic. It could be the cause, but my guess is something like an odd trace length next to the back-EMF detection that allows for EMI to cause immediate desyncs. Either way, that ESC experiences desyncs within the expected flight envelope, and considering the known possibility of that happening, why risk a $150 drone (or $250 plus with HD cam - and this is ignoring liability) when the correct replacement part is $28 - or get a different setup that is somewhere within that cost differential.
Yesss, I've been waiting for this! Thank you!
been waiting for your take on the x220hv, JB..thank you 👍👍
Bummer that it looks like they didn't overcome the reliability bugs that have plagued them in the past. Newcomers especially need a quad that does not do strange random things like that. Wonder if running 4s on it would be good for a beginner and if it would be a touch more reliable?
That would be my suggestion - should be more reliable on 4S and 5S, but if it's some odd trace that picks up EMI and causes desyncs, that may not fix it. It's still frustrating to have a quad that is 95% solid parts, and something show-stopping that could have been fixed. Having to replace the 4-in-1 is basically a deal-breaker for any new pilot that happens to
I got into this hobby because of the original Wizard X220 and even though I received one with a defective flight controller, I just got a Raceflight revolt and that wizard lasted me for many months and loads of flights and got me to where I am today. Quality is a bit of an issue but I still think it is probably the best way to get into FPV racing/freestyle.
same here lol rebuilt it a few times but it taught me to build too ......you pay for schooling I see no foul if you learn from it
@@Disinterested1 well that and its something you can actually work on..theres a crowd of amateur fliers that dont want to mess with the "hobbyist" side of things having to work on and solder and change out parts so they buy the plane jane brushless quads, but then when they break(and they do) you have to buy specific near OEM parts at a more premium price since thats the only parts that you can use. On the wizard if something goes out you just match the part to specs, or if need you want upgrade a bit.
How about Fuuton 2 instead of this as your first quad to get into the hobby ?? Almost similarly priced !!
Same ... still using mine stock. 👍 just new camera
Always love your videos! Great stuff 👍👍👍
Hi Josh! That would look great beside my TS215!
Really impressed with the last few releases from Eachine. Looks like they finally hired a designer with pride!
Great review! I’m glad explained why cheap isn’t always good. I had to learn that one the hard way when I built my first cheap quad parts! No I go for quality... and it’s the best thing I’ve done! 🔥 🔥 🔥
Great job, Happy New Year!
Your home is beautiful. Full of fresh air and energy :)
Great video as always.
Another great video JB thanks!!
Every product has guys who love it and those who hate it. The same was with x220s. I'm flying it for 6 months, 200- 300 packs for sure, probably even many more. Ram it in to the ground many times a day. I've never broke an arm, beside side plates occasionally popping out and antenna mount broken very soon, it still flies quite good (oh, and a tonne of props). Why should I spend time contemplating what parts should I order, doing research what frames, motors, FC, ESC, plugs, connectors, antennas, cables, cameras are compatible, waiting for those parts to come, still doing research, because something wouldn't fit for sure, waiting for parts again, put it together, soldering, trial and erroring... To save a few bucks?! After doing all that, who will guarantee me it will fly? Who says it wouldn't go in to death roll, or something even worse, maybe magic smoke because of my soldering job? At the end of day, driving home from a job I just want to stop at my favourite place and in less than a minute I'm ready to fly. The 220hv has very good parts, the quality of work putting it together is way better then my 220s, and ages ahead of original x220. So yes, I ordered a x220hv and can't wait getting it to the air!
Just because it'll take 6S doesn't mean a new pilot has to use 6S. I suspect that ESC will handle 4S and 5S batteries substantially better. Run 4S on this, and it'll have all the same extra control and error margin that starting on 3S used to supply, but with the added benefit of being very cost effective. When you decide you want more speed, toss on some more aggressive propellers (a $3 change), or find some cheap 5S batteries, and call it good.
Running 4S on 1750kv will be severely underpowered in my opinion.
@@JoshuaBardwell It definitely is underpowered (for giggles, I flew a really good 1750KV setup to see just how bad)... in the same way that 3S 2300KV is underpowered. On T5050C's, and RK5051's it's less bad, but same concept (again, just threw the most aggressive props I had left in the bin at it). For anybody flying at 25° camera angle or lower starting out, I'd argue it's actually not underpowered (but doesn't provide lots of growth ceiling.
I actually do really like that KV range on 5S, especially since those are cheap packs from time to time... but the biggest caveat here is that I still race 2000KV rigs on 4S and have solid results (albeit at 75% the pace of champion pilots).
I wish Eachine would do a Wizard 226HV that is running 1850KV motors on a 6" frame. It would do proximity well on 4S 5", cruise effortlessly on 4S 6", be an excellent all-around and long range rig on 5S, and still be capable of racing on 6S with 5" props... but that's just me projecting the concept I build with onto Eachine, who is probably struggling to keep requisite parts coming in the door to keep selling these.
Had this drone for two weeks and can't get it to arm. Anyone else have this issue or can help?
Those dummy screws... I think perhaps they were installed upside-down. If the nut was on the top side of the frame, you could get at them with a wrench
I like the new (if its new xD i didnt see it on any of your older vids that i watched) graphic with all the specs, its nice to get a good idead of the drone before the vid.
top quallity vid as always x)
Excellent job sir! Keep inspiring:)
Boy does that look like a fun quad to fly!
Actually thee's a guy here on YT who tested USA made bolts vs Chinese (Taiwan) bolts, a lot of times he found the 8.8 from China were as strong as the 10.9 from the USA. The likely cause is the USA has stricter QA and can make the bolts close to the actual specs, but the Taiwan bolts, in an attempt to cut back on QC checks, just made the bolts a little better. You may think this is good but actually unless you just want "the toughest bolt" you can get. I suppose that's almost every application, but some equipment is engineered to use bolts as a failure point in case of over stressing, in that case you would want the bolt to be close to the spec because you designed it to fail at the load you picked. Pretty much anything you're making at home or putting on a quad copter though the higher grade is just fine. I got long winded but basically those 10.9 bolts are quite surprising to see on an aliexpress type electronic.
Nice Shirt by the way! Another great review.. Thanks as always Sir JB. :)
Looks like a great quad. Me personally I started out with the x220 and has been a great learning curve with me and I have slammed in to ground many time on black top and everything. With min damage. Now I will say didn’t take me long to upgrade the crappy esc. And flight controller just went out. But it gives me the opportunity to replace all the guts with the f405 mamba and f40 esc. And sunny sky 2306 motors. But as a beginner. The eachine x220 was a lot for me to get used to on 3s but once I was used to it I hit the 4s. I can only imagine a beginner starting out with this. It would scare the crap outta me for sure. But over all eachine has gave me a great learning curve to get more comfortable with the hobby and confidence on repairing. If fixing and soldering is something your not into. I’d stick with a King Kong et models. Know one has anything bad to say about them👍
Its like anything in this hobby, you can either build, or by one built already. No matter what, you need to know how to work on it, and mod things. Personal thought, for the price, its a nice setup. If the 4 in one esc is problematic, id upgrade it right away. So you really have to figure out if you are just the average Joe who flys drones, ir are you the hobbiest who makes things work if there is an oversight by the manufacturer? Nice honest review Joshua, thumbs up!
Interesting design, love the purple.
At 7:10 maybe this not a hole, but a slit?
Love your work
Another great viedo and information thanks
Hello
My Wizard x220 keeps losing Board and Sensor Alignment I set it to 270.
But when I go into the setup Betaflight it shows the drone as it as 0.
I am running 4.0.6 firmware and Betaflight 10.7.0.
Also when I check the motors in Betaflight all four spin at the same time but when I arm the drone I only get two motors spinning and I cannot take off.
Please help Joshua Bardwell
Thanks
12:28 damn, i think this is the best sound evah for a racing drone i ever heard.... love to hear the screaming... very pleasant to intimidate in the pre race session... LOL
My Wizard ESC just died on me today after the second Deathroll. Just did 6 Packs on it. Actually 4S works well but 6S seems to be too much for it. But the Fun part: As I ordered my Wizard in February, they sent a free PDB 😂 I am going for 4 ESC‘s in the future and will let you know about the outcome. Until then, I will build a new Kwad with more durable parts on the Source One Frame.
@Joshua Bardwell noticed the header connector from FC to ESC was not fully seated in your video. Any possibility the header pins disconnected briefly under hard G's? I may be a sucker and bought one since I'm mostly into 3" micros and below, but wanted to try 5" 6S, and it was very cheap on promo. Just in case I also ordered a Mamba stack to replace that stack if needed. Also ordered metal M3 x 6mm standoffs for the existing to prevent header connector shear in a hard crash. Moved my main battery connector to the left side to get rid of video noise.
brilliant review
Fantastic, JB. My only problem with this quad is really the 6s packs... If they had put some 2400kv motors in it... Well, it would worth buying and replacing the flight stack with a Mamba stack, for example.
I may wanna try 6s someday... But definitely not now.
Yes... i just put up a video on my FLOSS-2 using the MAMBA on BetaFlight 4.0oooh!!! Man its unbelievable!!!
@@j.finesseflights1403 I bet, dude! 😃
You could run it on 4S and 5S no problem - toss on some 5150 props with 5S and you'll have 95% of the performance, but you can find solid $20 5S 1500mAh packs.
If you're looking at a Mamba stack, just build a whole quad around that. ALFA Monster, Mamba F405 Stack, VTX03, iFlight/RCX Motors, Caddx F2, and you're hitting the same price point but with better stuff all around.
@@tehllama42 Exactly. 😊
Congratz! From Brazil!!! TY
That was some flying Joshua! I fly like a nun and still crash into trees.
You need a section on your website for little useful tips like the proper post-flight resting voltage thing you mentioned. I'd never heard that before and little things like that are really useful!
Another great review... if I want a 5" with 6S, what to buy for reasonable money?
I just hope that the Eachine EV200D we just bought are better than the E013 and E010 I got that never got from the ground. Burnt PDB and no access to boot pads... new PDB on the way to both of them.
Nice job jb
JB, WHAT'S UP?
Don't leave me hanging bro, what happened after you got to the bench?
Andyrc had the same problem. He said up the digital idle speed and cut standoffs between fc and esc.
Looks like Eachine is stepping up their game, but still there is a challenge to build to both a quality and price standard.
I started with a Wizard X220 (and had an ESC catch fire in flight). Would use a X200HV as a club newbie model on 4S (slow tank). This combined with some sim training would get most people able to fly safely.
Hay Joshua can you tell us which batteries fit best to this drone ?
May I know is it possible to add a GPS at WIZARD X220HV?
Yes it is possible. Use UART 3 TX and RX on top of the flight controller.
Many pilots buying this have had similar results, and it isn’t a low throttle issue either. Adding insult to injury, many have broke arms on this, at the exact same point, so it would seem, it not only falls out of the sky, it breaks in the same place on the frame. At the cost of this quad, it would almost be worth buying, and swapping it to another frame, as well as, swapping out the 4 in 1. It’s a disappointing ending, to what seemed like, a great story!
At 11:22 turn the speed up to 1.5 ;) :)
posted on jan1st... happy new year JB ^^ i see you have great weather for wintertime :D
After taking advice I have a nice x220hv with mamba stack n Racestar 2200kv motor and it sick UK version
Anyone ever get a Spektrum DSMX Quad Race Serial Receiver with Diversity (SPM4648) to work with the F4 FC on this? I know the SPM4649T works on TX3, but I have tried connecting to UART6 RC pin, RX3, TX3, TX1, none work. If this F4 FC is the same as other F4 V5s, then only UART1 is non-inverting, required for the SPM4648 - those FC usually have a dedicated DSM2/DSMX connector or RX pad, this FC does not.
I just got a x220hv and I had an extra FS-iA6B receiver lying around. I have been trying to hook my quad up with this receiver and it seems to me that common sense would dictate that since the original wizard x220 shipped with this same receiver, that the newest version would at least support it. Am I wrong? In speedy bee I get an error message saying it can't find a receiver signal even though I'm hooked up, paired, and the LED on the receiver is on (not blinking). I tried arming / disarming but the error message doesn't go away and no input can be detected from the sticks. Has anyone else tried this or had a similar problem with the hv?
What was I THINKING, ordered a original wizard 220,looks like I bought a fixer upper quad
A good demo of the good, the bad, and the ugly.
Hello JB, I got some problem with my conetting wayering on my eachine wizard x220hv - ESC 45A 4 in 1 (the old) to my beta flight omnibus STM 32F4 F4 Pro V3 flight controller Built in OSD(just buy) . Hope I can learn it from you. Thanks
Great review - having watched your review and AndyRC’s multiple reviews, and picking-up on your last comment - the solution may be to replace the motors with 4s spec motors and leave it at that. Replacing the stack looks to be about the same cost as replacing the motors and a lot more work. Do you think the ESC can handle 4S without death rolls?
Hi, I have a question. I own 4 quadcopters so I know how to handle it but I have no experience with fpv racing and I wanna buy my first fpv quadcopter and equipment. Do you think eachine wizard X220HV is a good choice for me? And if yes, I have another questions... Can I use flysky fs-i6 transmitter and receiver to fly this wizard? (Because I already have a fs-i6 transmitter). And also what googles would you recommend me? What about eachine ev100.... are they good and can I use it for this wizard? Thanks and a have a good day :)
hello Joshua, I am very noob in this hobby and this is my first FPV Quad but i am trying to config everything and i would like o config Bluetooth like you show in a video about speedybee but i don't see which pin it is Bluetooth adapter using to turn it off when the quad is arm, any idea how could i find it please, thanks a lot your videos are great support to beginners.
this was posted on UAV Futures for the Wizard HV..."The 6s problem can be fixed by the cli gyro_overflow_decet = off " I tried it and got unknown command
The issue is definitely not gyro overflow. I can hear the ESC rebooting when the issue happens.
The parameter you are thinking of is gyro_overflow_detect
@@JoshuaBardwell
thanks...keep us posted if you find any permanent fix...maybe a Bardwell stack!
"It's legit injection molded ! Too bad, sessions are on the way out..." 🤣🤣🤣
Probably someone already answered this but It's not for a session its for the Runcam 3
I had really bad death rolls on my x220S wizard straight out the box. It Ending up being 2 bad motors which was so hard to identify
I know post is a bit older, but maybe someone could answer this...I just came of a year break due to injury at work. Last I flew, I heard of a few pilots using 6s, but 4s Lipos were still the big dogs. So when this quad says it's a 6s, does that mean you can't fly 4s, or just that it would be very under powered. I notice a lot of the toothpick and 3" quads are listed as 2s-3s or 2s-4s, so I wasn't sure about this Eachine Wizard. Btw, silly side note, what the hell happened to 5s lipos? Seems like it was all 4s then bam, everyone was talking about 6s. Do they even make them 5s lipos?
You can fly 4s it will just be a bit underpowered.
Nobody has talked about this quad on 5s. Every review Ive seen so far has only done 4s and 6s. Is there a reason?
hi Mr Joshua. i have some questions: i want to but a racing drone. X220HV is better than X220S? if i buy one of this, i will change the ESCs. i understand that the stock ESCs have some problems. what do you prefer? (note that i m not a racing drone pilot, i use DJI. but i m learning to fly with simulation on PC)
2nd time I have seen those zebra striped clouds in a video. Cricket had one with crazy clouds back before christmas and now you have them. So strange looking.
So what happened? Did the ESC fail? Does the quad still fly??
Hi thanks for the review whats your take on the wizard 220s?
The cam/vtx situation does not look good, though. Lots of noise, and the camera seemed to send black/white most of the time? The quad itself though, looks like a good buy.
Pretty nifty best 6s bnf yet. Get it?
I've hade high end esc go bad and budget esc so I'm not sure you get what you pay for just make sure it's a good company that you purchase from not to say BG is bad
Need to change throttle idle. I think it is set at 3. Needs to be 4.5 and that should fix death wobble
So Bardwell; if GoPro is on the way out, what's going to be to new replacement?
Session is out
Hero is in.
Hero 7 wiv gimbal thingy is in ???
Pretty decent drone👌
What's the min throttle set at?
So I bought the one off Aliexpress and it came without the antenna. Does anyone know what the antenna is called and where to get it?
My Charger won't balance charge my HV LiPos if the are below 3.7v per cell and I've given up on 6S for now and just sticking with flying 5S.
HV in this refers to being 6s.
6s HV charged would probably blow up the janky wizzard esc on take off.
Great video. I am determined to buy it, but I already have the T8SG V2 plus, so I will have to buy it without a station and the receiver will buy it separately.
I have no experience in Deviation. Confirm me if I'm right.
I would have to configure the drone first with Betafligth and Helli, assign the channels and then set up a new model with the Frysky protocol (assuming that it is the receiver), and then assign it to the MIxer channels according to what I put in Beafligth,
Is that correct?
Indeed
I need your desperately Joshua I want to buy that eachine kuad. 220 s and I'm a begginer and I'm practicing on my simulator I'm ready .does that cuad come with remote or do I have to buy it
Do you think the blade Scimatar Lrx is a good buy at $199.99 from Horizon Hobby?
What do u think of the hglrc 145
You have to follow up on what's wrong or if u can reproduce it to be fair.
Take all of the stack screws out to be able to reach the last/center arm screw?
Great video mr.bardwell as always...my comment I'm sorry to say though has nothing to do with the vid...ive yet to fly an fpv quad in the real world not because I'm afraid to...i just can't afford it the way companies price everything...every time I think about getting a( rtf) package because that's the way I would do it..its most always the same old story...great quad paired with junky goggles and radio and that's like 90% of the time...and if you do find a great (RTF) combo they ask for the earth and moon for it...if one company would just bite the bullet and give top of the line( RTF) combo at almost a loss..it could even come with a mediocre quad.. then more people could get into the hobby and be in it for the long run...theres millions to be made if done in the proper manner...people crash quads and need parts replaced..you don't crash goggles and radios..its a thought.