Thank you Dan, our medical system should be ashamed at what they've done to us and how they have influenced us. Thank God for insightful people like you, Dr Shubiner and others
I have been watching your videos for about 3 weeks now and I am learning. My pain goes back to the 1990's. When I put on clothes, my body hurts from the weight of a scarf, a neckless, a sweater etc. I have been talking to my brain for about 1 week about being safe and so on. This morning when I got dressed, I spoke to my brain nicely asking for a break with the pain it gives me all the time. So far today...not bad. But I am still talking to my brain here and there as soon as my neck start to hurt. This is not easy but I will keep on doing it 😁 Thanks Dan Sylvie
Thanks. Yes has worked for me. Not a panacea, but with time and patience it is a very helpful tool. Give it a try folks. Can work not just "pain" but also other distressing physical symptoms (eg of anxiety) that can be distressing. In my case has helped with not just chronic pain but also anxiety-induced symptoms that can be very conditioned. I've read many cases/reports of this technique really help those with CFS or Fibro in terms of fatigue issues too.
This is one of those foundational videos that I can see myself returning to often(hopefully not too often :P) in the future. Thanks again Dan, and the community, for everything that you all do.
Thanks Dan. I definitely need to try this. My major issue is when I wake in the morning I can lay in bed pain free. But... when I get up and take a seat, the pelvic pain comes on. Never fails. I end up in seated position most of the day and am downing Percocets.Then after about 9pm pain subsides somewhat. It’s bizarre but will give this process a try.
wow, I cannot believe how this could actually trigger anxiety and anticipation just during the imagining part.. I actually felt some nausea as I imagined the sitting position that usually triggers hip pain... I had tried it before, when I heard you mention it in another video, and I couldn't go through with the whole visualization, one step at a time..
The fact that imagining that pose turns on the anxiety and nausea is PROOF that it's all created in the brain. Nothing wrong with your hip. Practice this process. It takes some repetition before the brain learns.
I have an issue with car seats. I plan on using this technique. I have a 6 hour car ride in March. I'm thinking if I apply this that trip could be easier!
For sure - this video maps it out step by step. Begin now and practice daily gradually increasing your seat time. It has nothing to do with the seats. ua-cam.com/video/mRowJmW4uk0/v-deo.html
I have some evidence to you it doesn't have anything to do with posture. I have facial pain and it only affects me badly when I'm motionless. I can be lying, sitting, driving, standing, crouching, kneeling. I think the reason is when you are still you place more attention and focus on symtoms then you begin to habitually look for them every time you are in whatever position or movement you think triggers it. I'm not saying I've overcome this easily because I'm not there yet but its evidence that even for someone that doesn't have pain that doctors may consider structural, the pain still occurs doing certain activities.
For me is sitting is not to bed if I stand off more than 20 minutes or 15 minutes then I feel the pain in my legs and in my lower back but I did do this work I told my mind do you does nothing wrong in my back and this is not danger But their is really fear full Condition if I alone my self and And listen to meditation and then after one hour little pain I try to don’t care about this pain but some taime is Severe
If YOUR pain is when standing, use this SAME exercise to teach your brain that standing is not dangerous and should not hurt. Just switch "sitting" to "standing". It takes practice and consistency. Our brain believes what we think and say most often. Make sure you are reassuring yourself and visualizing standing pain free and happy more often than your fearful thoughts.
@@naimullahalikhel8847 I''m noticing now how emotions cause pain, tho this is something I've known about me for a long time. My husband just took our son up to his first apartment on his own. I missed him when he was away at college out-of -state but , but other than that he's lived at home. He is a great kid and so much fun to be around . He will be back Wednesday with my other son for a long Labor Day weekend, but for the past hour, I've been in awful pain! as I'm sad at watching him pack up and go.. I'm going to try and feel that emotion!
Learn about TMs: PainFreeYou.com Find out if it applies to you: DanBuglio.com/paintest Follow the suggestions here to get well: ua-cam.com/video/3vJgBnrhFt8/v-deo.html
Thank you so much for all the videos, its so helpful! Question: I visualize daily, am having no symptoms when visualizing, though as soon as I execute the same activiry m, even for just 5 seconds, my symptoms come up. I don't expect the symptoms and ,when they come up, I simply respond well by staying calm, do somatick tracking, and talk kindly/chuckle to the brain. Do I need to continue executing for 5 seconds until it does not give symptoms, or go back to visualization only?
This makes so much sense to me. How do you suggest you apply phase 3 to waking up in bed with symptoms? I understand how to apply the visualization, but don’t know how to grade my exposure in this scenario. Thanks!
We tend to get what we expect. I think the first two steps will go a long way towards changing your expectation. It will take practice, but as you wake, don't care if you have symptoms or not. Focus on gratitude or how much fun you plan to have today.
I wonder if this technique would work taking my blood pressure. Every time I put the cuff on waves of anxiety begin and my heart beats faster. I can’t get an accurate reading. A new doc first frightened me last year with ominous wording when my BP was high during a presurgical exam right after crushing my wrist in an accident. I was scared and stressed so BP higher. and then every visit and at home the same thing happens. I am calmer now than I have been in years after identifying my thought patterns and anxiety. She keeps wanting to up my meds. I never had hbp before this accident and my stress test was fine after. After studying the issue I see the nurse doesn’t take it correctly and at home I get this anxiety. If I don’t need medication I need accurate readings at home. I’m going to try this technique. Thanks.
Would this work for weather changes? When it rains, my pain shoots up most of the time. I have had the odd exception when it doesn't. Would this be a conditioned response?
yes, it's a conditioned response. Rain should not cause pain. Your brain perceiving it as dangerous due to past experience is why it causes pain. ua-cam.com/video/tnU6KBAv5fg/v-deo.html
Hey,dan.i have sitting pains n my trigger is sitting.i can't sit more than three hrs per day.the thing is i can't bring up the image of myself sitting.will taking a picture of me sitting n bringing up that image in my mind help??
Graded exposure can help. This video explains the process. ua-cam.com/video/mRowJmW4uk0/v-deo.html Before that, be sure you are confident your symptoms are TMS. They almost always are, but doubt will keep your brain firing the pain signals. Understand more on my start page: www.PainFreeYou.com/start
Hi Dan, do you know a tms practitioner from India or someone who speaks Hindi? I want my mom to take sessions. She has tms pain and even though she has watched me get rid of such severe sensations through tms work she thinks her years of pain is structural issue. She can understand and speak English but she will do better and will be able to express her concerns fully if she works with someone who knows hindi.. can't wait to hear back from you!
I am not familiar with anyone who speaks Hindi, but that does not mean they do not exist. Search TMS practitioner directory on Google and see what you find. TMSWiki.org has a directory you can check. In the meanwhile, she can begin to watch my videos. UA-cam should allow translation with the captions. linktr.ee/danbuglio for resources.
What if one has a combination of structural and mind body issues? Specifically dry eyes. There are structural issues that can cause Dry Eye, which is purely manageable and not curable. There aren’t examples of sitting on a chair for someone with dry eyes. Do you have any thoughts on how this could be handled with pain reprocessing techniques? Thank you.
No - pain reprocessing likely isn't the right tool for this specific condition because it is not movement oriented. However, being in the fight or flight response definitely affects the immune system and digestion systems. Moisture in the eyes and mouth can absolutely be affected. And it can get better when we focus on safety and lowering our time spent in fight or flight.
@@lindamoore1264 Focus on safety and lowering our time spent in fight or flight. Consistent messages of safety. ua-cam.com/video/5SsKnAgAvnY/v-deo.html Recovery from fear: ua-cam.com/video/VSmTe8zPXh0/v-deo.html It's not a single process or tool. It's a knowing that you are okay and making that your dominant story. The fast start offers many ideas. DansFastStart.com
Treat the cause. A hyper vigilant brain. We don't treat symptoms. We focus on teaching the brain we are safe overall. ua-cam.com/video/5SsKnAgAvnY/v-deo.html
Dan quick one..I assuming this technique works as well where we just do ‘the thing’ without thinking about it and then days later is the painful consequence..? I have worn Havaianas for years around the house..started in Singapore just bc everyone had ‘indoor’ shoes, so that now when I take them off say to walk into a different room or anything really even for a few seconds, 2-3 days later this cascades into a typical pain pattern which is nerve pain running throughout the right leg and into the foot. Obviously I have formed a neural pathway for this albeit unintentionally but pain is days later and then it’s about a week of it..I’m guessing the same rules apply even though I have no ‘conscious anxiety or fear’ of it in that moment (although after 10 years of this I obviously have a conscious knowledge of it..) if that makes sense..thank you
Experiment with it. Put this into practice. Visualize walking barefoot as long as you like with NO pain afterwards. And if the pain does come....indifference and not caring teaches the brain you don't have a physical problem. It's all covered in my course and group membership: PainFreeYou.com/join
@@PainFreeYou thanks Dan. I will give it a strong go. I do find it particularly challenging when it means I have to stand up to a category 5 gale…I’m good to a 4 but when I can’t walk and hobble around and pain is excruciating, the fear sets in and so I hope as I progress this work, as my nervous system calms, my category 5 will become a category 4 and so forth…thanks again
Thank you so much for sharing this Dan 😊 Just wondering is it best to be "in" your body while visualising, like you are actually walking say; or as if you are "watching" yourself walking? I hope that makes sense! 😂 xx
Would've its just constant pain no matter what position I'm in? In my situation, I dont feel pain at night but the minute I wake, it starts to slowly increase.
Would you recommend doing this visualisation just before you are about to do the 'thing' that brings on the pain? My main issue at the moment is buttock pain (like a muscle tightness) but it's at its absolute worst when I have been sitting/relaxing comfortably for some time and then get up to walk. The pain is throbbing/excruciating for about 10-15 seconds and then eases off just leaving me with the dull ache. Trouble is I think I must tense up because I am expecting it to happen...need to stop myself from doing that!
This explains what's happening: ua-cam.com/video/wLa8xqaoBWM/v-deo.html This is a quick technique to lessen the pain: ua-cam.com/video/W9XdKwmDBns/v-deo.html
Hi Dan. Lots of things give me pain - typing, twisting, stretching, lifting. Is it best to tackle one at a time and spend time visualising one of them until that’s ok? And then moving on to the next issue? And to be affective how many times should we be repeating this visualisation exercise every day? Once or twice a day or every hour? Just wanting to get an idea. Thanks
Hey Janet - perhaps start on the one that bugs you the most. Then, try this process for each one. There is no perfect checklist or formula. Teach your brain that there is nothing wrong with your body. This video is the roadmap to recovery: ua-cam.com/video/3vJgBnrhFt8/v-deo.html
Do you know if this would help pain from an actual injury? I got a crushed nerve when my wisdom tooth was removed, and the pain is still there 8 months later. It hurts my bottom left side of my lip when I talk...a terrible burning, tight feeling😢
The body heals. However, with Fear, focus on the pain and anxiety about it, we can literally "teach" the brain to keep the pain signals going. This video speaks about Learned Pain. ua-cam.com/video/UiJhpwfPpcw/v-deo.html And this video will teach you how to "unlearn" it. ua-cam.com/video/3vJgBnrhFt8/v-deo.html
Pain Free You Yes, I saw a specialist and he said my nerve has healed, though it still has altered sensations and a lot of tightness on and below my lip the nerve is causing. I’m not sure if the tightness is causing the pain because it only hurts when I talk or it is learned pain. I will definitely check these videos out. Thank you.
What if I only have pain after sitting for a longer period of time, say 30 mins? The pain I get after exercise, comes 4-5 hours later. How do I do use this process in this way? Do I just imagine doing yoga (had yoga injury which started off chronic pain) then 5 hours later still feeling great?
There's not right way to teach your brain all this movement and sitting is safe. Experiment. But visualization to the point where you can visualize sitting for a long period of time without pain is a good starting point. Look for the video called Exercise and Fear. That will at least give you a better idea why the brain turns on the pain after exercise.
@@TheWorldsbestmama what you should also do is to get your belief that this is TMS for you. Exercise hours later is really strong evidence your pain is conditioned and not a structural issue. I believe you need that belief alongside this. I too get it some time after exercise. That doesn’t make sense to be structural, otherwise it would happen or be triggered during exercise. Hope Dan agrees.
If you ever had a day when that expected pain after yoga didn't come then it would be helpful to remember that. Like think.... well that day it was ok so it there will be more days that are ok. Let the time that it was ok store as a memory and become your expectation.
And the more you say "this is more difficult than anything else", the more difficult it will be. Our brains believe what we think and say most often. See what happens when you say "this makes sense and I CAN do this". ;-)
What if it is a conditioned response in your buttocks/lower back to nerve pain thru out neck shoulders....I have all this .... is this a true conditioned pattern which all of this gives me Anxiety ...my focus (and how can it not ) is on the pain 24/7. So makes me think it is structural when clearly I had 2 specialty physician tell me there is no concern of my spine. When I sit and walk is the problem so there is FEAR...in going anywhere, I have panic attacks while driving which is scary in itself ....I believe my amygdala/vagus nerve is STUCK. this all started from STRESS from job losses/ car accidents ...just trauma over the years...I know all of this yes I have followed every TMS expert/ read books /journal , Meditate ... it started out with Sciatica...now it is full blown nerve pain ... I am a TMSER I have all the qualities... so why won't it led up ???? I have been diagnosed with PSTD, Fibromyagia and had a nerve test done and failed on the lower spine .... I had SI joint injection with due fail .... see I am the typical Dr. John Sarno patient .... feeling hopeless :(
Pati, The amygdala doesn't get "stuck". Symptoms are fueled by fear. The more you tell yourself you are stuck and cannot shift your focus away from the pain, the more you are telling your brain you are in danger. The more danger - the more pain. It's a loop that you just need to step out of. Knowing you have TMS and are a TMS'er is not enough. You need to teach your brain that your body is fine and that your emotions are safe. Right now, you don't believe either of those things to be true. If you haven't seen my "Ending TMS" video - I give you an entire roadmap of the concepts necessary to end the pain. Take notes of each concept and evaluate how well you are doing in each of these areas. It takes more than just journaling and feeling emotions. Begin here and focus on ALL of the concepts I am teaching. ua-cam.com/video/3vJgBnrhFt8/v-deo.html
@@PainFreeYou I watch all your videos ...I will watch it again and really try harder on not focusing on the pain ...however it is hard ...its just not the pain , nerve pain everywhere...I am dizzy , then panic attack so you think your dying any minute ...it is just aweful ...I wish it was just pain .... - I prob need a one on one coach call soon ....I am constant in panic mode .... :(
@@Julie-iw3mh I am the same with pain symptoms however my Anxiety is down because I am practicing what Dan preaches about calming the nervous system ...work in progress
I like this! Do you think it's also suitable for emotional pain? For example, when my 17 year old son does something (doesn't come home on time and doesn't pick up my calls) I am flooded with pain, particularly in my chest and shaking hands as I've gone into danger and anger zone 💜
@@tousift7822 the more i try and practice Dan's 'indifference' the first thing that 'lets go' is my imagination, sometimes i get up now, and forget about the pain lol then i realize that i'm not in pain and look for the pain in my mind, THEN it starts to hurt lol
Thank you Dan, our medical system should be ashamed at what they've done to us and how they have influenced us.
Thank God for insightful people like you, Dr Shubiner and others
I have done this and it really works! Practice practice so important
The more you practice, the more likely it is to stick permanently.
Going to practice this today ...I am going to think of it as exposure therapy ...going to expose myself to what brings on pain.
This is a very powerful video. Thanks Dan, for posting this.
My pleasure.
I have been watching your videos for about 3 weeks now and I am learning. My pain goes back to the 1990's. When I put on clothes, my body hurts from the weight of a scarf, a neckless, a sweater etc. I have been talking to my brain for about 1 week about being safe and so on. This morning when I got dressed, I spoke to my brain nicely asking for a break with the pain it gives me all the time. So far today...not bad. But I am still talking to my brain here and there as soon as my neck start to hurt. This is not easy but I will keep on doing it 😁
Thanks Dan
Sylvie
Welcome to my videos. This one video summarizes all my suggestions. ua-cam.com/video/3vJgBnrhFt8/v-deo.html
Oh my gosh, I do the chair anticipation stress thing!
Time to do the reprocessing exercise to decondition that. ;-) It work.
Thanks. Yes has worked for me. Not a panacea, but with time and patience it is a very helpful tool. Give it a try folks. Can work not just "pain" but also other distressing physical symptoms (eg of anxiety) that can be distressing. In my case has helped with not just chronic pain but also anxiety-induced symptoms that can be very conditioned. I've read many cases/reports of this technique really help those with CFS or Fibro in terms of fatigue issues too.
aaaaah!! now i get it!! that video you mentioned at the end, it hurts me coz he says stupid stuff like 'bring on the pain!!' etc
great video bro
Appreciate it
This is one of those foundational videos that I can see myself returning to often(hopefully not too often :P) in the future. Thanks again Dan, and the community, for everything that you all do.
You're so welcome!
how are you now?
Thanks Dan. I definitely need to try this. My major issue is when I wake in the morning I can lay in bed pain free. But... when I get up and take a seat, the pelvic pain comes on. Never fails. I end up in seated position most of the day and am downing Percocets.Then after about 9pm pain subsides somewhat. It’s bizarre but will give this process a try.
You can do it!
Looking forward to trying these techniques to playing the oboe pain free.
Go for it. The oboe is such a cool instrument. I played the cello for about 15 years growing up. Still play drums, guitar and piano.
Love this advice!
Glad it was helpful!
Genial! Grüße auch Deutschland.
wow, I cannot believe how this could actually trigger anxiety and anticipation just during the imagining part.. I actually felt some nausea as I imagined the sitting position that usually triggers hip pain... I had tried it before, when I heard you mention it in another video, and I couldn't go through with the whole visualization, one step at a time..
The fact that imagining that pose turns on the anxiety and nausea is PROOF that it's all created in the brain. Nothing wrong with your hip. Practice this process. It takes some repetition before the brain learns.
@@PainFreeYou thank you Dan..
amazing...
My pain gets worse just thinking about sitting in a restaurant 😩 but im gonna do this
I have an issue with car seats. I plan on using this technique. I have a 6 hour car ride in March. I'm thinking if I apply this that trip could be easier!
For sure - this video maps it out step by step. Begin now and practice daily gradually increasing your seat time. It has nothing to do with the seats.
ua-cam.com/video/mRowJmW4uk0/v-deo.html
I have some evidence to you it doesn't have anything to do with posture. I have facial pain and it only affects me badly when I'm motionless. I can be lying, sitting, driving, standing, crouching, kneeling. I think the reason is when you are still you place more attention and focus on symtoms then you begin to habitually look for them every time you are in whatever position or movement you think triggers it. I'm not saying I've overcome this easily because I'm not there yet but its evidence that even for someone that doesn't have pain that doctors may consider structural, the pain still occurs doing certain activities.
For me is sitting is not to bed if I stand off more than 20 minutes or 15 minutes then I feel the pain in my legs and in my lower back but I did do this work I told my mind do you does nothing wrong in my back and this is not danger But their is really fear full Condition if I alone my self and And listen to meditation and then after one hour little pain I try to don’t care about this pain but some taime is Severe
If YOUR pain is when standing, use this SAME exercise to teach your brain that standing is not dangerous and should not hurt. Just switch "sitting" to "standing". It takes practice and consistency. Our brain believes what we think and say most often. Make sure you are reassuring yourself and visualizing standing pain free and happy more often than your fearful thoughts.
Pain Free You thank you sir
@@naimullahalikhel8847 I''m noticing now how emotions cause pain, tho this is something I've known about me for a long time. My husband just took our son up to his first apartment on his own. I missed him when he was away at college out-of -state but , but other than that he's lived at home. He is a great kid and so much fun to be around . He will be back Wednesday with my other son for a long Labor Day weekend, but for the past hour, I've been in awful pain! as I'm sad at watching him pack up and go.. I'm going to try and feel that emotion!
thank you..I am new to you and maybe there is some hope..
Learn about TMs:
PainFreeYou.com
Find out if it applies to you:
DanBuglio.com/paintest
Follow the suggestions here to get well:
ua-cam.com/video/3vJgBnrhFt8/v-deo.html
Thank you so much for all the videos, its so helpful! Question: I visualize daily, am having no symptoms when visualizing, though as soon as I execute the same activiry m, even for just 5 seconds, my symptoms come up. I don't expect the symptoms and ,when they come up, I simply respond well by staying calm, do somatick tracking, and talk kindly/chuckle to the brain. Do I need to continue executing for 5 seconds until it does not give symptoms, or go back to visualization only?
Wow this is something new, which I never knew, 🙏, but what about standing, that will start hurting right?
Regardless of what position or movement hurts you, this process will work. Just substitute your situation.
This makes so much sense to me. How do you suggest you apply phase 3 to waking up in bed with symptoms? I understand how to apply the visualization, but don’t know how to grade my exposure in this scenario. Thanks!
We tend to get what we expect. I think the first two steps will go a long way towards changing your expectation. It will take practice, but as you wake, don't care if you have symptoms or not. Focus on gratitude or how much fun you plan to have today.
I wonder if this technique would work taking my blood pressure. Every time I put the cuff on waves of anxiety begin and my heart beats faster. I can’t get an accurate reading. A new doc first frightened me last year with ominous wording when my BP was high during a presurgical exam right after crushing my wrist in an accident. I was scared and stressed so BP higher. and then every visit and at home the same thing happens. I am calmer now than I have been in years after identifying my thought patterns and anxiety. She keeps wanting to up my meds. I never had hbp before this accident and my stress test was fine after. After studying the issue I see the nurse doesn’t take it correctly and at home I get this anxiety. If I don’t need medication I need accurate readings at home. I’m going to try this technique. Thanks.
Yes - basically, this is expecting a better result which turns down the fear. This should definitely help.
This works
Trying to find some help for it on UA-cam, any free help? Thank you
Would this work for weather changes? When it rains, my pain shoots up most of the time. I have had the odd exception when it doesn't. Would this be a conditioned response?
yes, it's a conditioned response. Rain should not cause pain. Your brain perceiving it as dangerous due to past experience is why it causes pain. ua-cam.com/video/tnU6KBAv5fg/v-deo.html
Hey,dan.i have sitting pains n my trigger is sitting.i can't sit more than three hrs per day.the thing is i can't bring up the image of myself sitting.will taking a picture of me sitting n bringing up that image in my mind help??
Graded exposure can help. This video explains the process.
ua-cam.com/video/mRowJmW4uk0/v-deo.html
Before that, be sure you are confident your symptoms are TMS. They almost always are, but doubt will keep your brain firing the pain signals. Understand more on my start page: www.PainFreeYou.com/start
Hi Dan, do you know a tms practitioner from India or someone who speaks Hindi? I want my mom to take sessions. She has tms pain and even though she has watched me get rid of such severe sensations through tms work she thinks her years of pain is structural issue. She can understand and speak English but she will do better and will be able to express her concerns fully if she works with someone who knows hindi.. can't wait to hear back from you!
I am not familiar with anyone who speaks Hindi, but that does not mean they do not exist. Search TMS practitioner directory on Google and see what you find. TMSWiki.org has a directory you can check.
In the meanwhile, she can begin to watch my videos. UA-cam should allow translation with the captions. linktr.ee/danbuglio for resources.
What if one has a combination of structural and mind body issues? Specifically dry eyes. There are structural issues that can cause Dry Eye, which is purely manageable and not curable. There aren’t examples of sitting on a chair for someone with dry eyes. Do you have any thoughts on how this could be handled with pain reprocessing techniques? Thank you.
No - pain reprocessing likely isn't the right tool for this specific condition because it is not movement oriented. However, being in the fight or flight response definitely affects the immune system and digestion systems. Moisture in the eyes and mouth can absolutely be affected. And it can get better when we focus on safety and lowering our time spent in fight or flight.
Thank you. Still don’t understand how to come at this
@@lindamoore1264 Focus on safety and lowering our time spent in fight or flight.
Consistent messages of safety. ua-cam.com/video/5SsKnAgAvnY/v-deo.html
Recovery from fear: ua-cam.com/video/VSmTe8zPXh0/v-deo.html
It's not a single process or tool. It's a knowing that you are okay and making that your dominant story.
The fast start offers many ideas. DansFastStart.com
Dan... what if I have a ton load of conditioned responses ... seems overwhelming , tackle each at time do not seems to work so far :/
Treat the cause. A hyper vigilant brain. We don't treat symptoms. We focus on teaching the brain we are safe overall.
ua-cam.com/video/5SsKnAgAvnY/v-deo.html
Dan quick one..I assuming this technique works as well where we just do ‘the thing’ without thinking about it and then days later is the painful consequence..? I have worn Havaianas for years around the house..started in Singapore just bc everyone had ‘indoor’ shoes, so that now when I take them off say to walk into a different room or anything really even for a few seconds, 2-3 days later this cascades into a typical pain pattern which is nerve pain running throughout the right leg and into the foot. Obviously I have formed a neural pathway for this albeit unintentionally but pain is days later and then it’s about a week of it..I’m guessing the same rules apply even though I have no ‘conscious anxiety or fear’ of it in that moment (although after 10 years of this I obviously have a conscious knowledge of it..) if that makes sense..thank you
Experiment with it. Put this into practice. Visualize walking barefoot as long as you like with NO pain afterwards. And if the pain does come....indifference and not caring teaches the brain you don't have a physical problem. It's all covered in my course and group membership: PainFreeYou.com/join
@@PainFreeYou thanks Dan. I will give it a strong go. I do find it particularly challenging when it means I have to stand up to a category 5 gale…I’m good to a 4 but when I can’t walk and hobble around and pain is excruciating, the fear sets in and so I hope as I progress this work, as my nervous system calms, my category 5 will become a category 4 and so forth…thanks again
No pain for me when I imagine sitting down, but agony when I do
You can teach the brain sitting is safe. ua-cam.com/video/mRowJmW4uk0/v-deo.html
Thank you so much for sharing this Dan 😊 Just wondering is it best to be "in" your body while visualising, like you are actually walking say; or as if you are "watching" yourself walking? I hope that makes sense! 😂 xx
There is no RIGHT way to do this. See which one you feel more comfortable with.
Would've its just constant pain no matter what position I'm in?
In my situation, I dont feel pain at night but the minute I wake, it starts to slowly increase.
It's still a conditioned response. You expect to hurt so the brain delivers. ua-cam.com/video/3vJgBnrhFt8/v-deo.html
Would you recommend doing this visualisation just before you are about to do the 'thing' that brings on the pain?
My main issue at the moment is buttock pain (like a muscle tightness) but it's at its absolute worst when I have been sitting/relaxing comfortably for some time and then get up to walk. The pain is throbbing/excruciating for about 10-15 seconds and then eases off just leaving me with the dull ache. Trouble is I think I must tense up because I am expecting it to happen...need to stop myself from doing that!
This explains what's happening:
ua-cam.com/video/wLa8xqaoBWM/v-deo.html
This is a quick technique to lessen the pain:
ua-cam.com/video/W9XdKwmDBns/v-deo.html
@@PainFreeYou Thank you, I’ll definitely be putting this technique into practice!
Hi Dan. Lots of things give me pain - typing, twisting, stretching, lifting. Is it best to tackle one at a time and spend time visualising one of them until that’s ok? And then moving on to the next issue? And to be affective how many times should we be repeating this visualisation exercise every day? Once or twice a day or every hour? Just wanting to get an idea. Thanks
Hey Janet - perhaps start on the one that bugs you the most. Then, try this process for each one. There is no perfect checklist or formula. Teach your brain that there is nothing wrong with your body.
This video is the roadmap to recovery: ua-cam.com/video/3vJgBnrhFt8/v-deo.html
@@PainFreeYou Thanks Dan
Fibro flares come on no matter what. Someone can be happy smiling relaxed in the most comfortable position and still get it.
The most predictable thing about TMS is it's unpredictability. Remember, Fibromyalgia is TMS.
Do you know if this would help pain from an actual injury? I got a crushed nerve when my wisdom tooth was removed, and the pain is still there 8 months later. It hurts my bottom left side of my lip when I talk...a terrible burning, tight feeling😢
The body heals. However, with Fear, focus on the pain and anxiety about it, we can literally "teach" the brain to keep the pain signals going. This video speaks about Learned Pain.
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And this video will teach you how to "unlearn" it.
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Pain Free You Yes, I saw a specialist and he said my nerve has healed, though it still has altered sensations and a lot of tightness on and below my lip the nerve is causing. I’m not sure if the tightness is causing the pain because it only hurts when I talk or it is learned pain. I will definitely check these videos out. Thank you.
What if I only have pain after sitting for a longer period of time, say 30 mins? The pain I get after exercise, comes 4-5 hours later. How do I do use this process in this way? Do I just imagine doing yoga (had yoga injury which started off chronic pain) then 5 hours later still feeling great?
There's not right way to teach your brain all this movement and sitting is safe. Experiment. But visualization to the point where you can visualize sitting for a long period of time without pain is a good starting point. Look for the video called Exercise and Fear. That will at least give you a better idea why the brain turns on the pain after exercise.
i get the pain hours later as well
@@TheWorldsbestmama what you should also do is to get your belief that this is TMS for you. Exercise hours later is really strong evidence your pain is conditioned and not a structural issue. I believe you need that belief alongside this. I too get it some time after exercise. That doesn’t make sense to be structural, otherwise it would happen or be triggered during exercise. Hope Dan agrees.
If you ever had a day when that expected pain after yoga didn't come then it would be helpful to remember that. Like think.... well that day it was ok so it there will be more days that are ok. Let the time that it was ok store as a memory and become your expectation.
This is more difficult than anything else
And the more you say "this is more difficult than anything else", the more difficult it will be. Our brains believe what we think and say most often. See what happens when you say "this makes sense and I CAN do this". ;-)
What if it is a conditioned response in your buttocks/lower back to nerve pain thru out neck shoulders....I have all this .... is this a true conditioned pattern which all of this gives me Anxiety ...my focus (and how can it not ) is on the pain 24/7. So makes me think it is structural when clearly I had 2 specialty physician tell me there is no concern of my spine. When I sit and walk is the problem so there is FEAR...in going anywhere, I have panic attacks while driving which is scary in itself ....I believe my amygdala/vagus nerve is STUCK. this all started from STRESS from job losses/ car accidents ...just trauma over the years...I know all of this yes I have followed every TMS expert/ read books /journal , Meditate ... it started out with Sciatica...now it is full blown nerve pain ... I am a TMSER I have all the qualities... so why won't it led up ???? I have been diagnosed with PSTD, Fibromyagia and had a nerve test done and failed on the lower spine .... I had SI joint injection with due fail .... see I am the typical Dr. John Sarno patient .... feeling hopeless :(
Pati,
The amygdala doesn't get "stuck". Symptoms are fueled by fear. The more you tell yourself you are stuck and cannot shift your focus away from the pain, the more you are telling your brain you are in danger. The more danger - the more pain. It's a loop that you just need to step out of.
Knowing you have TMS and are a TMS'er is not enough. You need to teach your brain that your body is fine and that your emotions are safe. Right now, you don't believe either of those things to be true.
If you haven't seen my "Ending TMS" video - I give you an entire roadmap of the concepts necessary to end the pain. Take notes of each concept and evaluate how well you are doing in each of these areas. It takes more than just journaling and feeling emotions.
Begin here and focus on ALL of the concepts I am teaching.
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@@PainFreeYou I watch all your videos ...I will watch it again and really try harder on not focusing on the pain ...however it is hard ...its just not the pain , nerve pain everywhere...I am dizzy , then panic attack so you think your dying any minute ...it is just aweful ...I wish it was just pain .... - I prob need a one on one coach call soon ....I am constant in panic mode .... :(
Oh I forgot to say Thank you ...you don't know how much I appreciate what you do :)
@Pati Clark How are you doing now? I relate to your post very much and have similar problems with the physical and emotional.
@@Julie-iw3mh I am the same with pain symptoms however my Anxiety is down because I am practicing what Dan preaches about calming the nervous system ...work in progress
I like this! Do you think it's also suitable for emotional pain? For example, when my 17 year old son does something (doesn't come home on time and doesn't pick up my calls) I am flooded with pain, particularly in my chest and shaking hands as I've gone into danger and anger zone 💜
Essentially, this is visualizing a different result and yes, I do believe it can help.
oh gosh, just imagining standing made me anxious and nauseous!
they key is to imagine standing while smiling and happy. Keep at it. This will teach your brain that you are okay.
@@PainFreeYou just got totally blind sided by the nausea, ugh... my brain!!!
@@elaineremains ya imagining standing makes me anxious sad fearful, as well
@@tousift7822 the more i try and practice Dan's 'indifference' the first thing that 'lets go' is my imagination, sometimes i get up now, and forget about the pain lol then i realize that i'm not in pain and look for the pain in my mind, THEN it starts to hurt lol
Before watching the vedio I comented and found dan to say same thing as sitting , ya but I learnt about laughing about the pain, I never knew it 🙏