Why You SUCK with Katarin

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  • @BlakesTakes420
    @BlakesTakes420  Рік тому +25

    I made a follow-up to this video here, should you be interested:
    ua-cam.com/video/ma6EvchoOHw/v-deo.html

    • @i.d.k.studios235
      @i.d.k.studios235 Рік тому +2

      so kislev is like a lasagna, they have a layered army, they have three leader, one chunky, one saucy and one mushroomy, and of cource if you know what you are doing they are cheesy, and backed under extreme heat from all directions

  • @sirunklydunk8861
    @sirunklydunk8861 Рік тому +561

    The opening with the bodies loaded into the wagon are the dead Kislevettes that keep showing up in my Kislev campaigns

  • @xevixeb9523
    @xevixeb9523 Рік тому +230

    I don't even know what I am doing here, I was just looking for some lasagne recipes, but this looks like a very addictive game.

    • @turtleinvader2982
      @turtleinvader2982 7 місяців тому +9

      Total war Warhammer 3. Good game I had it for less than 2 weeks and have 70 hours on it

    • @marclohnhardt6420
      @marclohnhardt6420 6 місяців тому +3

      1,5k hours already... the mods...the mooooooods!!!!

  • @Aaron-oh3yj
    @Aaron-oh3yj Рік тому +389

    You and Zerkovich are re-igniting my love for Total War Warhammer 3 despite my burnout. Your videos are helpful, entertaining, and funny

    • @BlakesTakes420
      @BlakesTakes420  Рік тому +29

      Thank you for your kind words! 🫶

    • @beanboi1368
      @beanboi1368 Рік тому +8

      this is the most factual comment ive ever seen

    • @michaelpetrovich5353
      @michaelpetrovich5353 Рік тому +3

      When i was burned out, all i did was to sleep and play warhammer 2 for 3,5 months.
      The doctors thought i would be out for over a year but i came back after 4 months in almost full capacity.

    • @cbtcrusader7699
      @cbtcrusader7699 Рік тому

      wtf@@michaelpetrovich5353

    • @somegoodish
      @somegoodish Рік тому

      I was burnt out too. Then a day passed and I was good to go again

  • @sativa-sloth6099
    @sativa-sloth6099 Рік тому +104

    Loved the WaW reference with the "Their land, their people, their blood"

    • @BlakesTakes420
      @BlakesTakes420  Рік тому +18

      That game was truly excellent. Glad you enjoyed the nod to it.

  • @fotppd1475
    @fotppd1475 9 місяців тому +13

    Those Victor Reznov lines made me say the words just as you where throwing these epic one liners.
    Nice work Tovarish.

  • @Fabio-wq8kt
    @Fabio-wq8kt Рік тому +125

    This series is so underrated it needs way more views

    • @BlakesTakes420
      @BlakesTakes420  Рік тому +4

      Thank you for your kind words. Much appreciated.

  • @edwardfontaine7108
    @edwardfontaine7108 Рік тому +167

    As one of the few people that plays Katarin like other people play Franz i approve of this video. Also that Kislev trailer is truly Rad!

  • @Sonarchyy
    @Sonarchyy Рік тому +19

    Another excellent guide my man, i have to say watching these made me realise alot of mistakes i was making with the game in general and has reignited my interest in it when i was in a "im never gonna get good at this" mindset and have gotten a much better understanding.
    However as a certified Skavenchad i must demand once more that you dedicate a video to the horned rats servants quick-fast!

    • @BlakesTakes420
      @BlakesTakes420  Рік тому +5

      I'm so glad you've found value from these.
      The faction for the next video has not yet been ratified...
      🐀

  • @hendrikfelix5876
    @hendrikfelix5876 Рік тому +34

    It's always a highlight of the day to see a new "You suck with ..." Video.

    • @BlakesTakes420
      @BlakesTakes420  Рік тому +1

      Thanks for staying tuned. Appreciate your support! 🫶

  • @thoriumbrother
    @thoriumbrother Рік тому +7

    This video is so packed with good knowledge and layered with humor its a veritable free lasagna of information

  • @EveloGrave
    @EveloGrave Рік тому +11

    Oh man this is a great weekend. So many good things. Thanks Blake!

  • @MagicianCamille
    @MagicianCamille Рік тому +19

    Another great video. This strat is pretty similar to mine except in army comp. I tend not to tech up my units until after Throt is dealt with as Kossars are actually better at dealing with a large horde of rats than Streltsi are. I'll also take a turn or two to grab some Ostermark territory to sell to Drycha to win her love so I can purely focus on the north.

    • @redluke8119
      @redluke8119 Рік тому +7

      Bro ostermark territory for drycha that's brilliant 👏

    • @BlakesTakes420
      @BlakesTakes420  Рік тому +10

      That's a very clever idea.
      Clever girl. 🦕

    • @redluke8119
      @redluke8119 Рік тому +2

      @@BlakesTakes420 facts

  • @thecopecorner9648
    @thecopecorner9648 Рік тому +16

    great video as always, looking forward to the next one as usual

    • @BlakesTakes420
      @BlakesTakes420  Рік тому +1

      More on its way! Thank you for your kind words.

  • @richardkenan2891
    @richardkenan2891 Рік тому +6

    Had a friend complaining about Lore of Ice and Lore of Tempest. He didn't want to use magic at all, until I pointed out that getting poor, inefficient use of your Winds of Magic is still better than getting no use of them at all.

  • @JinxBfjv
    @JinxBfjv Рік тому +8

    Thank you for your insights on the factions you have showcased so far. It helps me reconsider not all but some aspects I have missed from my first playthrough on each factions, makes me want to redo my campaigns with everyone you have showcased. I'm actually redoing a skarbrand campaign and having so much more fun with all you advices you have provided in your videos.

    • @BlakesTakes420
      @BlakesTakes420  Рік тому +1

      I love to hear it. I wish you good fortune in the wars to come.

  • @masaheimoi
    @masaheimoi Рік тому +53

    I think light war sleads work as army by themselves. Just put 17 of them with patriarch, mage lord and hero with traits to decrease their upkeep. Idea is to run circles around enemy shooting at their fast and heavy units until you can change at their remaining infantry and push them to death. With 60% reduced upkeep they are very cheaper than normal armies and can deal with most 1v1 army situations. Also they are easy to replace.
    I also like to list cons so here they are. Keeping up micro is difficult. Personally I like to slow down things, but it is annoying. If enemy gas faster units they can get stuck and destroyed. Doggos are not scary by themselves, but they can get sleads stuck so that other units can destry them. Currently there is also a bug that makes it so that when auto resolve says that your sleds won't get destroyed it might be lying. Also trying to do major sieges with them makes me want to kill myself.
    But I do think they are still worth it as a cheap above average army. Because of all the cons I won't call them a "doomstack".

    • @etuanno
      @etuanno Рік тому +3

      The auto resolve bug has been there since day one. I'm not sure if the attrition bug/feature is still in place (most likely is), if you take the slightest attrition at all, you loose a whole entity of them. So you took 5% attrition, but you start battle with 2 instead of 3 sleds.

    • @paulseed1065
      @paulseed1065 Рік тому +2

      I have fielded armies like that and they have been sucessfull late game. So i agree with this

    • @masaheimoi
      @masaheimoi Рік тому

      @@paulseed1065 Any ideas how to do siege maps with them?

    • @paulseed1065
      @paulseed1065 Рік тому +1

      @@masaheimoi any small gaeison will lose. If rhere iz an aemy just sige em up unrill rhwy diw or aallyout. Idealy that ripe of army is neaely free so u got time.

    • @BlakesTakes420
      @BlakesTakes420  Рік тому +9

      War sleds are very oppressive.

  • @simonbas6
    @simonbas6 Рік тому +119

    I'm not sure I agree with your throt strategy. I appreciate the logic, but in my own experience, you can't afford to be slow and methodical when fighting Skaven of any kind but throt especially, as he prints armies at a rate of knots so if you go slow they can and will throw infinite rats at you until they eventually wear you down. The easy way to avoid getting ambushed by skaven is to never let them attack you, so keep up the aggression and stamp the rats out quickly and violently. Strike first, strike hard, and never allow them time to recover after your first strike.

    • @darkrite9000
      @darkrite9000 Рік тому +20

      The issue usually is more that Skaven can often retreat further than you can move. You never want to be in forced march stance as it's a death sentence to any army fighting Skaven (unless you happen to have a doomstack of minotaurs as khorne, or war bears as kislev). The AI is often times complete cowards and will actively avoid your armies unless they can ambush them or have a large number advantage. Moving in encamp stance with at least 2 armies is generally the best way to deal with Skaven, if you can catch them without getting stuck in force march afterwards, do so. But if you can't, then it's better to take it slower rather than risk your armies getting ganked. The AI can afford more armies than you, so it's best to be more careful with your armies, always temper aggression with caution. As otherwise you'll be sending in a save to Legend and trying to get him to save your army.

    • @simpleman3898
      @simpleman3898 Рік тому +2

      Yes use one army to trick them into the other, stronger in ambush.

    • @Dianbler
      @Dianbler Рік тому +2

      Agreed. Azagh will usually ignore you if he's fighting Karak Kadrin and Drycha. The gold mine is nice, but not fighting Skaven mid game is even better

    • @redluke8119
      @redluke8119 Рік тому +1

      ​@Dianbler that was so well put 👏 🙌 👌

    • @AcZe1188
      @AcZe1188 Рік тому +17

      @@Dianbler I think it's more about securing a "core territory". Core territories for me are territories you practically don't need a garrison army to defend because no one's going to attack it. No one's going to attack you there and the only way inside the mountain is extremely limited. This allows you to practically develop the provinces there virtually unharmed for the most part. While Throt on the other hand is located in a very troublesome part of the world. Hellpit is situated near the chaos wastes and you will be hard pressed to defend the entire province from chaos incursions, all while you're trying to deal with azhag to the south if you don't fight him first.

  • @takyondg
    @takyondg Рік тому +3

    Great video! Earned yourself a sub here mate. Just one quick note, when you're talking about using frost effects and magic to slow down the enemy approaches, you mention how you can use Tempest magic in a pinch to make the enemy shuffle around and delay. This is spot-on accurate! I just wanted to add that the Lore of Tempest's spellcasting passive is also a mapwide slow effect on all enemies. So, any Tempest spell will help contribute to slowing the enemy, regardless of whether they are dodging a hailstorm or not.
    I'm a big fan of having one of each caster in every one of my Kislev armies if possible since the two lores complement each other very well. Use Ice Sheet and an overcasted Gust of True flight and now you've:
    1) Slowed 4-6 enemy units with the Ice Sheet
    2) Given your whole army a touch of armor and missile block chance through the Ice passive, helping them trade projectiles more effectively.
    3) Given 3-4 friendly ranged units a bunch of extra accuracy and range, again, helping them trade more effectively or giving an extra volley or two on the approach.
    4) Slowed the entire enemy army (including a stacking slow for the enemies affected by #1) through the Tempest passive.
    The two schools of magic, while not game-breakingly powerful as some others are, both complement each other and the Kislev roster/playstyle very well.
    Cheers Blake!

    • @mandu6665
      @mandu6665 Рік тому +1

      Great post. I hated hearing since launch about how bad Kislev's magic schools are and Tempest was the way to go over Ice. You are spot on and I think CA did a great job designing the magic to COMPLEMENT your armies instead of being just another source of damage. I already got bored of nuking armies with one OP lord in WH2!

  • @leroiratonus
    @leroiratonus Рік тому +2

    Nice reference to Reznov's World At War speech early in the video, love this serie of video you are making. Keep it up !

  • @edwardfontaine7108
    @edwardfontaine7108 Рік тому +14

    I prefer to Rush Throt by invading Praag than aggressively pushing Throt after. Azhag and Drycha will usually be preoccupied with each other and with Kislev minor settlements aren't really worth investing in while Praag and Kislev, being 2 of the three main cities, have very important Strategic Value over the course of a Kislev campaign anyway. Great vid!

    • @jakubs.5966
      @jakubs.5966 Рік тому +14

      But you see. Around turn 7 if you start with Azag, there is high chance you will get nice delicious caravan near Fort Jakova. That's why I go Azag first.

    • @edwardfontaine7108
      @edwardfontaine7108 Рік тому

      @@jakubs.5966 I think both strategies are viable.

    • @BlakesTakes420
      @BlakesTakes420  Рік тому +9

      @@jakubs.5966 I had this caravan too.
      Nomnomnom

  • @someguy3763
    @someguy3763 11 місяців тому +1

    Thank you SO much for saving my sanity and hours of wasted time. I hope you continue to make these, this video hit all the right spots. I consider myself a “competent beginner” since I have a lot of experience in Shogun 2 and my grasp of battle mechanics and micro are fairly good. However as far as anything that has to do with staring at the map, I’m terrible, and I learn mainly by just playing and getting my butt kicked or being walked through. A lot of the other guides or videos I tried watching were too dry and long winded or too short and basic. This video met the perfect middle ground and now I’m having no trouble with pest control.

    • @BlakesTakes420
      @BlakesTakes420  11 місяців тому

      You're most kind for saying so friend, comments like this make this all worthwhile! :)
      I'll have another faction releasing this Saturday

  • @NornAArnBard
    @NornAArnBard Рік тому

    This is excellent! I wasn't even looking for it. Not only through, concise and insightful, but clever, sharply edited, and funny.

  • @TheMoonlitFaerie
    @TheMoonlitFaerie Рік тому +1

    Haven't played kislev outside of the RoC campaign, but I know your advice will be as high quality as the video itself. Always a pleasure to watch, even if your finest meme got copyright struck.

  • @FangofFate
    @FangofFate 9 місяців тому +1

    This has inspired me to give the Katarin campaign another try, I’ll absolutely be taking your advice and hoping I can finally get to Ursun this time!

  • @OldOn3Eye
    @OldOn3Eye Рік тому +1

    Ah thank you for this guide, I've started a Kislev campaign for the umpteenth time and it always just withers away. I'll make sure to use these tips from now on.

    • @BlakesTakes420
      @BlakesTakes420  Рік тому

      You're very welcome. Let me know how the campaign goes.

  • @oliverto101
    @oliverto101 Рік тому +2

    Your videos and tips build on each other like a beautiful lasagne of warhammer knowledge. Keep it up dude, you got a new sub today

    • @BlakesTakes420
      @BlakesTakes420  Рік тому

      Thank you so much for your kind and saucy words. 🫶

  • @GamerGrovyle
    @GamerGrovyle Рік тому +1

    This video has given me a lot of good insight on how to play Katarin better. Currently 70+ turns in and on good terms with Kostaltyn who owns most of the north western half while I own Prag and all to the south.
    Right now I'm running away from him in the Supporter race and I really can't lose at this point from buildings alone so I'm just enjoying having him be my buffer.
    At this rate I'm well on my way to finish the Short Victory Campaign. We'll see about the long one, been wanting to give the CDs another choice or someone else from your vids.

  • @toopristineproduction
    @toopristineproduction 8 місяців тому +1

    your WH guide format is amazing

  • @ManicPixieTransGirl
    @ManicPixieTransGirl Рік тому +6

    Just finished a VH/VH realms of chaos campaign as Kislev, came to defend kossars against your slander. They’re not only the best unit on the Kislev roster but one of the best units for their cost in the entire game. There is legitimately no reason to recruit anything else, mass armies of kossars will outperform elite stacks for their price. You can afford like 3 kossar stacks for the same price as an elite stack, and they will be similar strength in autoresolve with a lot more utility since you have 3 armies instead of one.
    You go for one elite stack on katarin with ice guard since she can have them for less than 100 upkeep, but everyone else should be rocking kossars with maybe some globally recruited streltsi if you really need them for a particular fight, but overall you can afford two kossars for every streltsi and two kossars will outperform a single streltsi even without armor piercing.
    Also most of your enemies are demons and will take more damage from magic missiles than they will from armor piercing, which means katarin doesn’t really need streltsi either. You should go with bear riders on Boris though, and also like 3 bear riders for katarin too, but that’s it. The rest will be your dozens of legions of kossars autoresolving the entire map

    • @НазарУкраїнець-щ1я
      @НазарУкраїнець-щ1я Рік тому +1

      And that Pirate weapons research that gives all ranged units AP damage, reload reduction and range is beautiful.

    • @MotRi1986
      @MotRi1986 Рік тому +2

      Ye Kossars are fantasic even into the end game, since they are recruitable in every settelment you can easily get them too one turn global recruitment time + they are very cheap and that makes them into one of the best defensive units in the game and that is crucial with Katarin and her position.
      I personally preffer higher tier armies when I can afford them because of the rule of cool but Kossars is by far the most important unit in Kislev roster if you want a sucsessfull campaign, even if you dont plan to win the campaign by autoresolving. I will argue that they together with high archers the best "first" tier unit in the game.

    • @jeffbunnell9961
      @jeffbunnell9961 Рік тому +1

      I like to have a couple streltsi for armor-piercing, but seeing an army with like 8 streltsi of them is pretty funny. Kossars are cheap and have nice arcing shots that streltsi don't have, and both units are bad in melee. For arcing shots Ice Guard is where it's at it in the late game combined with a couple units of streltsi for some extra armor-piercing, I wouldn't spam streltsi at all. I don't believe they are a straight upgrade to kossars even given their cost increase and what they bring to the table. They are just there to snipe some more armored targets. Research and red line buffs make kossars and Ice Guard great at dealing damage to everything else.

    • @MotRi1986
      @MotRi1986 Рік тому +1

      @@jeffbunnell9961 with my Ice Guard stacks I don't see the need for any added armour piercing. But I do like to have a couple of Little Groms for long range support. I also use 3 patriarchs as tanks since they get a good bear mount and they can heal.
      The one enemy I always struggle with even with my Ice Guard stacks is Malus and here I use enough numbers to auto resolve the initial fight, aka a stak of Kossars to support my main army.

    • @ManicPixieTransGirl
      @ManicPixieTransGirl Рік тому

      @@НазарУкраїнець-щ1я another good point, clearly this guy is playing on normal or something. Can’t believe he recommends armored kossars, you should literally never recruit them

  • @ComfortingColourlessLight
    @ComfortingColourlessLight Рік тому +2

    So this video convinced me try again play this campaign and all your tips turned out great. One thing that made it easier is the skaven actually losing to Kostalyn. Getting a really valueble anti-norsca alliance (and money) from the chaos dwarves by giving them the northern coast settlements that are not worth constantly protecting was also an unexpected boon.

    • @BlakesTakes420
      @BlakesTakes420  Рік тому +1

      Haha I have not once seen Kostalyn be able to cope against Throt and Azazel.
      You have a rare campaign there friend.

    • @ComfortingColourlessLight
      @ComfortingColourlessLight Рік тому +1

      @@BlakesTakes420 I don't know how that happened, he did lose ground to Azazel afterwards, but he made finishing off the skaven extremely easy for me. Also my luck continued with Festus, probably the easiest faction to beat with your tips (especially because I had a hill to use in the main battle) occupying several eastern empire settlements I wanted, and the vampires loosing their armies somewhere just when I invaded.

    • @BlakesTakes420
      @BlakesTakes420  Рік тому +2

      @@ComfortingColourlessLight it happened through the magic of faith in Ursun comrade.

  • @michadebniak9
    @michadebniak9 Рік тому +4

    the checkerboard formation, ah yes, the legend's specialty

  • @sup1602
    @sup1602 Рік тому

    Blake's takes once again teaches us total warhammer scrubs how to play the game right. You are also my new favourite youtuber I found in the last two years.

    • @BlakesTakes420
      @BlakesTakes420  Рік тому +1

      Thank you so much for your lovely comment.
      Glad to be of service.

  • @TsarAlexander395
    @TsarAlexander395 2 дні тому +1

    I love turning the forces of Chaos into slices of cold lasagne.

  • @Genesis115
    @Genesis115 11 місяців тому

    1:45 hahaha I love that COD WaW reference! I noticed there’s a character in there that seems to be the same voice actor that plays the commissar who orders the rocket strikes on Berlin.

    • @BlakesTakes420
      @BlakesTakes420  11 місяців тому +1

      It was such a good game back in the day. Glad you enjoyed the nod to it.

  • @simpleman3898
    @simpleman3898 Рік тому +1

    Wooooooo he uploaded another one. I haven't unlocked Boris yet so this is wonderful. And I haven't played every race yet😊
    Yes human factions often require more "strategy" than others. I just showed some friend's kids this game and they aced the beastmen, not sure if same thing with Kisliv😂.

  • @martinmurphy8887
    @martinmurphy8887 Рік тому +3

    Amazing as always, now I can enjoy some leftover lasagne and start my day off the right way 😁

  • @tonynussbaum
    @tonynussbaum Рік тому

    Subbed. I thought I subbed after watching your Khorne video, which was also awesome. The Sunny reference put this one over the top.

    • @BlakesTakes420
      @BlakesTakes420  Рік тому +1

      Thank you for subscribing, and welcome aboard sir.

    • @tonynussbaum
      @tonynussbaum Рік тому

      @@BlakesTakes420 Thank YOU for making such entertaining and informative videos!

  • @Deadagainsback
    @Deadagainsback Рік тому +25

    One thing you didn't cover is what I call the lasagne tactic, where you bait the enemy lines closer to yours and then use a reinforcing army to envelope them from behind, making layers like in a lasagne. You can then use your ranged strength to destroy them between your pasta layers with few casualties - hope this helps!

    • @BlakesTakes420
      @BlakesTakes420  Рік тому +5

      I must iron my hands for that blunder. Thank you for pointing it out.
      Did you know fusili pasta means spiralled like a rifled barrel and that's where we get the term fusilier from?

    • @columbien10
      @columbien10 Рік тому +3

      Bro, it's called the hammer and anvil, ancient tactic with the same name since like at least Alexander

    • @BlakesTakes420
      @BlakesTakes420  Рік тому +8

      @@columbien10 I think you'll find it's the lasagne tactic.

    • @columbien10
      @columbien10 Рік тому +2

      @@BlakesTakes420 but where is the bechamel🤔

    • @BlakesTakes420
      @BlakesTakes420  Рік тому +4

      @@columbien10 in my belly 😋

  • @josem.sanchezr.4280
    @josem.sanchezr.4280 Рік тому

    Damn Blake. Been waiting for a new video and it was awesome. Starting a Katarin campaign right now

  • @roberttitan4497
    @roberttitan4497 6 місяців тому

    Just recently found your channel. I really like your videos. Your strategy of getting rid of Azhag first is spot on. Thrott while extremely dangerous the longer he is left alive. It is more important to secure your southern front first and secure those gold mines. Dratcha (sp)? And Vlad are also serious issues. BTW I have pronounced Melee wrong for years until a friend corrected me. It is pronounced may-lay. Anyways love your videos so far and i hope you continue to make them.
    ·

    • @BlakesTakes420
      @BlakesTakes420  6 місяців тому

      I have since addressed my scandalous pronunciation of melee in this video: ua-cam.com/video/De6PqZikaho/v-deo.htmlsi=f6hlZTnWgUXjB-OT

  • @Welterino
    @Welterino Рік тому

    Your sense of humor is gold man 🤣and the Runescape yellow fonts are awesome

    • @BlakesTakes420
      @BlakesTakes420  Рік тому

      Thank you so much for your kind words sir, they're much appreciated. RS4lyf

  • @ancientweirdo
    @ancientweirdo 3 місяці тому +1

    came back to this, and i wonder if this should get an update. kislev got new units, and all that

  • @josephnoama5858
    @josephnoama5858 Рік тому +1

    this video really rocks, thanks for your effort!

  • @MrManofgondor
    @MrManofgondor Рік тому

    Love your videos so much, they manage to be very informative and entertaining in equal measures. When I played my Kislev campaign I went straight for Azhag but then killed Drycha and then the Vampires and just made sure to have a force in Kislev just large enough to defend it. Got back up north just in time to only have Throt ransack some of my smaller settlements which I quickly retook but it seemed to work out pretty much the same. I probably had a harder time with Throt but the tradeoff was that Drycha was probably easier to deal with, always thought she was a must not ignore but now I know I was only earning her ire by talking to Ostermark I might give the campaign a rego and see how it feels.

    • @BlakesTakes420
      @BlakesTakes420  Рік тому

      Thank you for your lovely comment sir. They're much appreciated.

  • @legendarykoreanbbq5116
    @legendarykoreanbbq5116 Рік тому +1

    Kislev is like a well made lasagne. There's a lot of layers but once you master them all it all comes together. Thanks for the tips fr

    • @BlakesTakes420
      @BlakesTakes420  11 місяців тому

      I missed this comment, my apologies! Thank you for your kind words, glad you got some value from the tips.

  • @Weiswolfe
    @Weiswolfe Рік тому

    holy wack-a-skaven what a guide! gonna keep it in mind once i finish my dwarf campaign and start with this icy popsicle ;P thank you so much keep doing this guide videos with as many factions as you can pleease!

  • @pascaldifolco4611
    @pascaldifolco4611 Рік тому +4

    Good advice, but my main problem in mid game was Drycha and VC, they're really hard to defeat and distract armies from the North Chaso threats

    • @BlakesTakes420
      @BlakesTakes420  Рік тому +2

      I had the same issue. Trying to avoid them doesn't always work. My advice is mass streltzi, and get a cheap stack of Kossars to accompany that army.
      You can counter Drychas tree an spam by deselecting control large armies.

  • @bongosmcdongos4190
    @bongosmcdongos4190 Рік тому

    Ooh I was just watching these! Great timing.

  • @jakubs.5966
    @jakubs.5966 Рік тому

    Not bad video at all. I proriorize Azag as well. I would add - remember to use multiple lords to attack caravans. 4 gives you maximum gold possible gained. You gave advice on almost anything. 10/10 video.

    • @BlakesTakes420
      @BlakesTakes420  Рік тому

      Thank you for your kind words! Much appreciated.

  • @sirtrevis
    @sirtrevis Рік тому +1

    I like the Tsar Guard way better than you do. Took out Throt first. Have not seen Azhag, yet. Throgg is a jerk who just keeps coming back. Excellent content. Subscribed.

    • @BlakesTakes420
      @BlakesTakes420  Рік тому

      Thank you for your lovely comment sir. Welcome aboard!

  • @Breenspaz
    @Breenspaz Рік тому

    Awesome video as a new player this helped me realize I need more Streltsi for late game chaos instead of just ice guard deathstacks.

    • @BlakesTakes420
      @BlakesTakes420  Рік тому +1

      Ice guard need armour piercing, I think it's weird they don't have it.
      But yeah streltzi slap.

  • @Blemmo
    @Blemmo Рік тому

    The thing is for me, I kinda think about starting a new campaign and try to get some inspiration. I Like this!

  • @1001airstrikes
    @1001airstrikes Рік тому +1

    Very good! Learned a couple things. Can't wait for the next one.
    Ya know, I was just thinking. What would kislevites think of lasagne? I mean there's no italy faction, right? They're missing out...

  • @TNTNinja2
    @TNTNinja2 Рік тому

    Listen this video was really quite good and informative. Maybe a bit of an out there analogy but it really did feel like after struggling for weeks with a bad lasagna recipe I finally found a good one. But like, the lasagna is the most power ice witch.

  • @tutocamicha6560
    @tutocamicha6560 Рік тому +1

    Keep up this good work man I love your videos!

  • @MrNavetse
    @MrNavetse Рік тому

    Blakes takes are always hot. Such based, much guide.

  • @leshiq4214
    @leshiq4214 Рік тому

    Nice! I've been waiting for that!

  • @vojtechquis9846
    @vojtechquis9846 Рік тому

    such a great video, was just making lasagna for lunch and when you posted the video I forget on them so fast, I only remembered them when they started burning in the oven :)

  • @grudger95
    @grudger95 Рік тому

    This video is formed like a tasty lasagna: Layers and layers of tasty info on how to improve. I definitely suck at this faction. It took me 4 tries to unlock Boris and finish the campaign. Thanks for the tasty info and thanks for the tasty info

  • @dominicchammas549
    @dominicchammas549 Рік тому +1

    Love your guides they have helped so much, I have dsypraxia so I struggle with little things in this game but I love, please do an ikit one

    • @BlakesTakes420
      @BlakesTakes420  Рік тому +2

      I'm glad you found it helpful! Thank you for the lovely comment.

  • @madwookie9844
    @madwookie9844 Рік тому +5

    I tried a Katarin campaign a few times before and the checkboard formation is most definitely key to your success especially early with the Kossars. My problem is by the time I've eliminated Azhag Throt has become a nearly unstoppable juggernaut and I get dragged north trying to kill him and consequently dragged into wars with Norscans and Chaos Warriors who have battered Kolstaltyn into submission and come straight to me. This is a problem because Katarin is busy and I really dont have any economy to have a second or third army up and running to deal with the invasions, and of course the Ai are gods damned cowards and attacking anything and everything that is undefended as if they somehow know which settlements to go for. But since my recent Skarbrand runs havent been to successful lately maybe it's time to play some ice again instead of fire.

    • @edwardfontaine7108
      @edwardfontaine7108 Рік тому +6

      katarin, and really Kislev in general, have some of the hardest start positions in Warhammer 3 atm. it's is definitely a difficult campaign.

    • @khankhomrad8855
      @khankhomrad8855 Рік тому +4

      Oh the AI has no FoW so it is no surprise that they know which settlements are the most vulnerable.

    • @madwookie9844
      @madwookie9844 Рік тому +3

      @@khankhomrad8855 wait....WHAT?!! Why?! Who thought that's a good idea? That is such a huge advantage.....that explains so much.

    • @jakubs.5966
      @jakubs.5966 Рік тому +2

      What you lack is scouting. Use your heroes and scout forwards to intercept enemy attacks with for example ambush stance. I did Kislev campaign once and start is brutal and when you open up after Praag you get second even more brutal phase as everything from Chaos Wasted pours in and second wave of Norscans come from Northern parts, Empire factions lose to Doctor in the middle and so forth. Sometimes you need standing army to just defend smaller settlements non stop. If you want my tip - farming Cathay caravans brings your game from A to S. Remember to use 4 lords to attack those, as that brings you maximum gold possible. You should be able to deal with Skaven as long as you make your 4 man hero deathball. Katrina+another caster + 2 priests, one for healing and one for attack buff. They are very strong and can deflect or even outright kill most oncoming enemies - as your archers and ranged units dish out damage, they soak in front, healing and casting spells.

    • @madwookie9844
      @madwookie9844 Рік тому +5

      @@jakubs.5966 Fair point, I typically put heroes in my armies and might have one or two scouts, so I should open up to more scouts. And I will keep all that in mind.

  • @HauntingSpectre
    @HauntingSpectre Рік тому +3

    Gryphon Legion are great because they cause fear, and are fairly quick. Just cycle charge them into the back off the Melee and watch the entire opposing army run in terror. Opening up their backs to more hails of fire, be it Ice guard or Streltsi.

    • @BlakesTakes420
      @BlakesTakes420  Рік тому +1

      War bears cause fear, have anti large, Armour-Piercing and healing from Kossars is way more effective in them because of small entity number.
      They're just superior in every way. Which I think should be looked at. Give Gryphon legion bonus v infantry or something.

    • @HauntingSpectre
      @HauntingSpectre Рік тому

      @@BlakesTakes420 Can get Gryphons at T3 from Praag Unique building though, where as War bears are locked into T4.

  • @dwahuntur
    @dwahuntur Рік тому +2

    Im not quite sure the lasagne strat is going to work out in the actual game, but it seems nice theory crafting

  • @Dan-bq1dz
    @Dan-bq1dz 11 місяців тому +1

    Tip for any gunpowder army, but especially good for hybrid melee/ranged fellas like the Kislevites. TW3 has an odd mechanic where, if a gunpowder (it has to be gunpowder, i don't know why) is stationary in GUARD MODE and not given fire orders, there is a fair chance (like, 50%) that the 'idle' unit will continue to fire at will at any targets within its ark... even the fellas that are striking in melee. Normally, for something like Vampire Coast, this is risky as hell to do, because your just so damn squishy- but Kislev is perfect for it. Streltsy and Armored Kossars (shields) are perfect for this tactic. Literally just don't command them to do something when the lines connect.
    Counters: This trick relies on melee contact to be with low-mass entities like melee chaff (ex: marauders). High mass entities like cavalry, heroes, lords, monsters, etc, will wade into the formation and prevent the unit from carrying on firing.
    Pros: ranged damage is amplified when this is in effect because far less shooters miss their targets. Friendly fire almost never happens as in TW3 entities within a unit are immune to damage from other entities in the same unit, and ranged accuracy is determined by a projectile traveling with variation at a target; they won't miss if the target is in their face. This will make it seem like your doing even more damage up front. Plus, you get the best of both worlds; a bare minimum of your troops will fight in melee, with the reserve firing away.
    Cons: Assuming you manage to arrange this perfectly, you lose the ability to command contacted units lest you break up the units free-fire. Units do this inconsistently, and are at the whim's of RnGesus or your enemy. You're also forced to pick flat plains for this to work best. Units set up in this way will fight terribly in melee, and if your not getting lucky and they aren't firing their guns, you are more likely to lose the unit. Also, this tactic demands that you have strong morale- which is why vamp coast can pull this off too: squishier units, terrible in melee, but they never break ranks until they're dead.
    My advice, given this: Expendable corps of 3x armored kossars, arranged as the front 3rd Acies, making your checkerboard a pretty triplex Acies. Streltsy in the middle, forming the main battle-line. If they are covered by armored kossars, they are not on guard mode- you micro these at priority targets. Otherwise, if they are far from the front kossars, on flanks maybe, they are also on guard mode. Third rank bow kossars or Ice maiden archers if you can get them, 2 or 3- with spears so they can perform light anti cav duty if needed. You will routinely lose the front kossars, but they are cheap and also draw enemy missile fire with their lovely shields.
    Bonus tip: remember that you can muster three armies of friends at a time, and Kislev's bow kossar unit is a great expendable 'computer controlled' army asset. To get three friendly armies, make the one you care about the least (bow kossars) AI controlled. You'll control 2 armies, 40 men, and the AI will take the extra 20. You can do this to outnumber the rats. Bow kossars are good for this because they both get a spear version (light cav repellant) but they can fire over each other so the idiot AI won't stumble over itself and fail to use your more sophisticated streltsi. Cav armies (especially ungol horse archers/chariots) are also actually great AI companion corps.

    • @BlakesTakes420
      @BlakesTakes420  11 місяців тому +1

      This is true, but I don't know whether it's intentional or not for the unit to operate that way, it might be patched at a later date so I thought it best to leave it out.

    • @ineednochannelyoutube2651
      @ineednochannelyoutube2651 11 місяців тому +1

      @@BlakesTakes420 I've seen empire hand gunners do this in Warhammer 1 and 2. This is a long time for a glitch to remain in the game, so it may be intentional or never get fixed.

    • @BlakesTakes420
      @BlakesTakes420  11 місяців тому +1

      @@ineednochannelyoutube2651 I don't recall it working like that in warhammer 2. But I could be mistaken.

  • @cass7448
    @cass7448 11 місяців тому

    Recruiting a second army ASAP was the decision that carried me through my first successful Katarin campaign. Whichever direction you push early, you need to be able to defend the others due to the sheer number of enemies you have. No use investing money in your settlements if they're getting razed every few turns.

  • @deltarno7502
    @deltarno7502 Рік тому

    Looking forward to your Chaos Dwarf video!

  • @thethirdsicily4802
    @thethirdsicily4802 Рік тому +1

    Yet another good video Mr. Blake! If I might ask, what flavor of Ice Guard do you find more useful? I know the idea is to not let them get into melee, however should that occur would you recommend the dual sword or halberd ones?
    Aside from that, as a slave to aesthetics myself I must admit I use Winged Lancers and Gryphon Legion far more than their stats should allow, I wholly agree with your take on them and can only hope that the Shadows of Change DLC comes with a buff or two to them

    • @BlakesTakes420
      @BlakesTakes420  Рік тому +2

      Thank you for your kind words sir, they're much appreciated.
      I think the Glaive versions have more utility because of bonus versus large, but as you said, it doesn't matter too much because they should be tucked behind the front line.

  • @MoreImbaThanYou
    @MoreImbaThanYou Рік тому +1

    That treemen scene triggers a deep fear within me. No matter what faction, playing against any of the wood elves is such a huge pain unless u just brutally overpower them.

    • @BlakesTakes420
      @BlakesTakes420  11 місяців тому +1

      Wood elves are very painful to fight. 100% agree with you.

    • @toobig7150
      @toobig7150 11 місяців тому

      But God forbid the pvp overlords don't see their elves being anything less than A tier.
      Can you imagine not having your basic archer having the range of another faction artillery!? THE HORROR

  • @NickiNicker
    @NickiNicker Рік тому

    Your funny words and piping hot takes remind me of my childhood when my mother would cook a lasagna and explain to me how and why I sucked at everything I do. Very nostalgic!

    • @BlakesTakes420
      @BlakesTakes420  Рік тому

      Treasured nostalgia, your scrapings are in the post.

  • @abumy4
    @abumy4 Рік тому

    Great vid in preparation to give kislev a try, hopefully their mechanics will be more layered in an upcoming update, because without some spice and meat you can't distinguish between two K's of Kislev

    • @BlakesTakes420
      @BlakesTakes420  Рік тому +2

      Oh my, you subtle, subtle creature. You're getting a corner-piece.

    • @abumy4
      @abumy4 Рік тому

      @@BlakesTakes420 I like huskies

    • @BlakesTakes420
      @BlakesTakes420  Рік тому

      @@abumy4 I'm down to Chihuahuas and Beagles I'm afraid.
      I have all the huskies towing my car.

    • @abumy4
      @abumy4 Рік тому

      @@BlakesTakes420 ehh.. beagles it is, I'll take two then

    • @BlakesTakes420
      @BlakesTakes420  Рік тому

      @@abumy4 bottom of the barrel stuff I know.

  • @joshuacowling2237
    @joshuacowling2237 5 місяців тому +1

    1:43 I Understood That Reference, Comrade🤓😎

  • @coolisron2041
    @coolisron2041 Рік тому

    I can wait to watch the rest of your stuff after dinner. Got some lasagne to eat tonight

  • @XDivi
    @XDivi Рік тому +1

    This makes me want to actually pick up Kislev as a faction now. Katarin is awesome

  • @realestchance6329
    @realestchance6329 Рік тому +1

    Take a shot every time he says Streltsi. Falling out of my chair now.

    • @BlakesTakes420
      @BlakesTakes420  Рік тому +1

      Take a shot every time I mispronounce "melee".
      I'll get an ambulance ready.

  • @moteleyman
    @moteleyman Рік тому

    great work as usual!

  • @CrazyJD100
    @CrazyJD100 Рік тому

    Everytime the bear pic showed, it absolutely killed me 😂 24:32

  • @jakubstachurski2298
    @jakubstachurski2298 Рік тому

    literally one of the most funny and informative series' on yt for Warhammer I did fine with Katarin on my first ever campaign but im going for a second just cause of this

    • @BlakesTakes420
      @BlakesTakes420  Рік тому

      Thank you so much for your lovely comment. Let me know how the campaign goes.

  • @ouchiegiverjr
    @ouchiegiverjr Рік тому

    I’d love review of the different factions by you! Maybe a top ten??

  • @Mobius-ct9zq
    @Mobius-ct9zq Рік тому +3

    I wonder if we might get an update exploring some of the culture of the different factions. Like do Elves drink wine? Do Dwarves eat LASAGNA? Is there such a thing as Skaven caviar? Etc.

  • @duhund92
    @duhund92 Рік тому

    found you yesterday and love your videos!

  • @scavenger6268
    @scavenger6268 Рік тому

    Quick tip for you Blake Take: Empire Huntsmen
    Just getting three of them for allowing Ostland to live will give you solid archers that can take out Chaos cavalry, Monsters, Lords etc...
    Also if you have played the Marienburg mod...Ostland is poor, but a premier supplier of bacon and pork. Quite useful for your tallow makers.

  • @ilari90
    @ilari90 Рік тому +2

    My battle report with this start:
    tl;dr: Excellent results, first success with Katarin on Legendary.
    What happened to me is that when I took out Azhag in his gold town, a chaos incursion army spawned next to me and I decided to go with Katarin to the main city of the province, while the second army of Azhag got the Ogre town. I went and took out the capital with my two armies, and next turn Lahmian Sisterhood stack was next to the city, so I decided to join war with the minor greenskin faction vs lahmian sisterhood, taking some money in the process. Went to take out Lahmian S's Silver Pinnacle with lord number 2, stack full of Kossars from Katarin's army and traded it to Astragoth for Military alliance, or defensive, don't remember which one. Then got agreements with Ungrim so he won't attack and I'm on turn 80 now and he still hasn't declared war.
    After that I went back and noticed Azhag was back again in the former ogre place, so I made another army in kislev with kossars like the first turns went and gave those to Katarin, who was slowly walking back in encamp stance, recruiting, and rest of them were supporting, when the fight happened. After beating Azhag, Nagelhof went to a minor Ogre faction and they striked me and took katarin out, i was able to beat full stack of ogre bulls with my full kossar stack.
    After that I got a mission to take out Prague, and I didn't realize it hurts devotion but at that point I had got Streltsi stack and a kossar stack, so it was easy, took out them and then came thrott with four stacks near prague... I looked at how far they can move and placed a weak army to limit of their movement so I could back off, that way Thrott had 4 stacks in a group near prague and I striked it with my 3 stacks and won, those weren't full stacks, mind you. After that marched to Hell pit to take them out. Most important thing is that you don't lose Prague at that point so they can't just skip to Kislev fast. Stay in encamp stance until you have clear walk to siege hell pit so they can't ambush-attack you, that has ruined many playthroughs.
    Then you start to just hold your positions, looking for target, don't develop small settlements in north, as you will occasionally lose some of them as there's just too many stacks coming from different directions, just don't lose Prague.
    Important thing with heroes is that you need to keep them alive for them to become viable, don't risk them. If you see enemy coming against your army and you are sure you can't win, take those heroes out of that, It's not a catastrophe but still not really fun early game to lose those.

    • @BlakesTakes420
      @BlakesTakes420  Рік тому +1

      thoroughly enjoyed reading that and glad you've soldiered through.

    • @ilari90
      @ilari90 Рік тому

      @@BlakesTakes420 now on turn 94 I'm sending guys to naggarond (took out 3 stacks in hag graef, but malekith was angry and launched attack after that) at the same time going against Ungrim, and this is hard, streltsi-wagon stack doesn't work at all vs quarrelels or darkshards/shades, you really need some ice guards to deal vith them, but every chaos faction is easy with Streltsi/light wagons. I have won this campaign economically so I can fart out a golden streltsi stack anywhere I want, so at least I won't lose my towns. Also I have now a new anti-dawi stack going, with one dreadquake mortar and 2 hellstorms, so welcome you suckers! Also I think you don't ever need "heavy sleds" as the stats are the same, heavies have 10% more hp and that's not much for extra turns of recruitment, so you peak at city level 3 imo
      And thanks a lot for this vid, this got me first time into Kislev and it's glorious. I have 20k hours in different TW games, but to figure this campaign out I needed help. I started from Shogun 1 when I was a kid way back, born in 1990.

  • @Willdroyd
    @Willdroyd Рік тому +1

    28:57 I am so sad you didnt make a Hell Pit pun there

    • @BlakesTakes420
      @BlakesTakes420  Рік тому

      Im actually kicking myself for that one. The joke wrote itself.

  • @alexsawchuk5371
    @alexsawchuk5371 Рік тому

    A fun little thing you can find is the lich bone pennant, if you put that on ice guard suddenly it doesn’t matter that they can’t do armor, they no longer need to

  • @DM_Curatorr
    @DM_Curatorr Рік тому

    I suck with Katarin. I love these videos, keep them coming!

  • @schfiftyfive9680
    @schfiftyfive9680 11 місяців тому +1

    You're the first person I've ever seen use streltsi to any affect. I've had the best luck even in the late game by just using kossars supplemented with tzar guard and buffing their stats so they don't suck.

    • @BlakesTakes420
      @BlakesTakes420  11 місяців тому +1

      Now that akshina ambushes exist I'm not sure whether streltzi are the best choice now.
      But if you didn't get SoC, Streltzi slap if used in chequer board formation

    • @schfiftyfive9680
      @schfiftyfive9680 11 місяців тому

      @@BlakesTakes420 lol any time I get an army with those in them, they get disbanded immediately. Maybe I should figure out how to use them

    • @BlakesTakes420
      @BlakesTakes420  11 місяців тому

      @@schfiftyfive9680 Unless they've been heavily nerfed since SoC (I haven't played Kislev since.) They do insane armour-piercing damage and can arc their shots whilst stalking, basically invalidating Streltzi 's role on the battlefield

    • @Phijkchu_Dialga
      @Phijkchu_Dialga 11 місяців тому +1

      @@BlakesTakes420 Their armor piercing damage was indeed nerfed since SoC released. They no longer replace streltzi on that front.

  • @nickybluepantsaltosaxophon6706

    Thanks for the guide! I had my problems with this campaigne and abbandoned it quite early. So I will now give it a another try.
    Can you tell me on which difficulty you play your campaigns?

    • @BlakesTakes420
      @BlakesTakes420  Рік тому

      You're most welcome. I play the campaign on Very Hard.

  • @oddaido
    @oddaido 7 місяців тому

    This is a great guide with a great late game composition, but I'd like to propose a counter argument - War Bear Rider doomstacks. And considering you do not argue with an angry winged lancer riding an even angrier war bear...

    • @BlakesTakes420
      @BlakesTakes420  7 місяців тому

      Doomstacks are strong no doubt. I just find they get a bit boring fast for my own taste.

  • @zachariahjock91190
    @zachariahjock91190 Рік тому

    Gotta love all those Boyars variants to choose from. 5:40

  • @winged_destro
    @winged_destro Рік тому +1

    man, thinking about the snow leopard she starts with makes me think about garfield. And garfield loves lasagne

  • @Dearion89
    @Dearion89 Рік тому

    Great video! time to start a Kislev campaign 😆

  • @Níðhögg
    @Níðhögg Рік тому

    Great video really enjoyed it.
    And maybe for the future video you could do lizardmen.

    • @BlakesTakes420
      @BlakesTakes420  Рік тому +1

      Thank you for your lovely comment. Lizardmen will see their time in the sun.

  • @alostchattino
    @alostchattino Рік тому +1

    As tasty as a slice of lasagnes, great guide as usual !

  • @onelohan
    @onelohan 6 місяців тому

    That beginning part of the video was brilliant!!!! 😂😂😂😂

  • @Nirual86
    @Nirual86 9 місяців тому

    Generally speaking, Kislev sounds great on paper especially for a new player, as with all the hybrid units you don't have to worry as much about stuff like ranged and artillery getting caught up in melee... but I actually found it rather confusing to try and figure out what any hybrid unit is best used for. Like Armored Kossars seem to be more geared towards melee with their lower range and straight projectiles, but are they better than Spear Kossars against cavalry? Thankfully 4.2 actually gave Kislev a straight up melee unit at tier I with the Kislevite Warriors which are both anti-large and armor-piercing.
    I found Kislev strangely more easy to play as Ostankya, who doesn't have access to most of that regular roster for a good while, but has new beasts for melee and still gets the new Akshina Ambushers for range. Her placement in IE does seem to be pretty worrying though.

  • @DragonsChosen
    @DragonsChosen Рік тому

    lasagne, I am probably the only one who saw the message and I am Already subscribed to your very helpful channel!!!!!

    • @BlakesTakes420
      @BlakesTakes420  Рік тому +1

      Thank you for your subscription and viewership.
      Lasagne update here:
      ua-cam.com/video/De6PqZikaho/v-deo.html

  • @justinpliskowski153
    @justinpliskowski153 Рік тому

    On my Katarina Legendary playthrough I did the Azhag rush and then went straight to Drycha... It was rough as hell those first few battles..... I immediately went West to kill the Nurgle guy after...then I went to Thrott.

  • @dudeofstuff
    @dudeofstuff 7 місяців тому

    I agree on campaign strat, but I go completely opposite direction regarding unit composition. kossars work as spam and allow you to not waste money on barracks and work until tier 3 in my experience. Then a hybrid of war sleds until tier 4 where its ice guard and war bear time. And tbh across probably 100 hrs of Kislev campaigns I've never recruited streltsi. I don't need to kite bloodthirster into a gun line, I have bears.

  • @christophercookson3139
    @christophercookson3139 Рік тому

    Babe wake up Blake posted