The VR version blew my mind. It was like playing Mario 64 for the first time in the 90s. I've only had 2 completely shocked 'wow' moments like that in 36 years of gaming and this was one of them.
@@GForceIntel They are saying groundbreaking "this shit is wild" moments. Everything after Mario 64 was just a better looking version of the same games.
@@PrefoX bro it looks fine lmao it’s not state-of-the-art in the rendering department but it definitely has a distinct style that is realized successfully in the engine. I guess it’s subjective and some seem to have different standards than others, oh well I guess I’ll just go play video games and stop complaining about em.
As someone who completely finished re7 on ps5 let me tell you 1. in later parts of the game like the greenhouse fight with Marguerite or the boathouse fight with jack you will see HEAVY drops with ray tracing on so it gets worse the farther you go 2. Ray tracing on makes the stutter more apparent when moving between areas 3.load Times in re 7 were always an issue being 1-2 minutes long now its 2 seconds
@@leonfrancis3418 The problem is VRR can only do so much. PS5's VRR only works from 48+ frames while Xbox supports it from 40+. I've been playing the Series X version with VRR and I've noticed drops as well in the later stages of the game. It's probably going to be worse on PS5 since it has a weaker VRR implementation so I wouldn't rely on it if that's what you're using.
@@David-nd4to I'm sorry to hear that. I personally adored RE7's atmosphere and story. It feels like playing a grindhouse found footage flick, which I totally dig, and all the characters, even Ethan, have such strong performances and writing behind them. The Baker family are truly a wonderful bunch, and are franchise icons to me. I also appreciated that RE7 was a return to the series' survival horror roots. The DLCs also added a ton of quality content. That's just my take though. As for RE7's length; practically all RE games are 2-4 hour affairs. So I don't really understand your slight against 7 since it perfectly falls in line with its predecessors. The majority of an RE game's length comes from not knowing what to do or where to go. Once you do though, or if you're just familiar with these games, you can blaze through them quickly.
@@David-nd4to dang is the game that short . The last game I played that short was a game called the bouncer and when I finished I was like wtf it’s over
@@lizardman1303 my first playthrough of RE7 was like 7½ hours. I've replayed it several times though with additional runs lasting 3-6 hours depending on difficulty, how much I'm item hording, collectibles, etc. Not A Hero, which is a free epilogue DLC (and essential content imo), adds an additional 1-2 hours. If you're a series veteran you can breeze through it in 3 hours, but if you're a casual fan or if this is your series introduction it'll take you much longer, trust me.
@@BlueisNotaWarmColour kinda, i think it depends to the optimization, most RT i saw is extremly bad optimized..... imo only RTGI is really worth it.i would absolute LOVE to play old classics with a RTGI remake, HL2, Prey, Bioshock.....
I feel like they just might considering Village is getting the full PSVR2 treatment. All they need is the head tracking for RE7. That'd be a hell of an experience w/ the boost in visuals & resolution.
Don't you think it'd be better to make the official VR versions for PC too? Anyone with a VR headset that works on PC would be very happy, including Quest 2 owners lmao. Better than locking the VR versions behind 1 headset only for consoles too, not everyone likes consoles or wants to buy a PS5 just for a VR version of a multiplatform game. Capcom should know this by now and start porting the versions on PC, same thing for RE8 and RE4 Remake VR in the future. Sony should only do VR exclusivity with their 1st party titles, not multiplatform franchises like RE. I have to assume Sony are more consumer friendly than Facebook and probably could do timed exclusivity at least, right? Considering they've also been porting their 1st party titles to PC slowly but surely. Just praying this time it'll be different for RE4 Remake VR at least
The vr actually kill immersion for me that detach hands effect is annoying I feel like my character is a pair of detach hands! And is incredible that at this point all vr first person games do this still! It kills my immersion completely
As a developer, I'm of the mind that backwards compatibility is possible, and I hope to see it (there are tons of great games). In the plausible scenario it doesn't exist, I too would like to see an update to RE7 for PSVR2.
@@avgnfandon2 I appreciate the question, but maintain distance from personal details surrounding my life while using social media, and so will have to decline to answer. However, I suppose I can say that I am relatively new (though have been developing for some time), with a specialization in realtime graphics. If you're asking for advice: build stuff. a) Choose a project you think you can handle (it doesn't matter how advanced it is), b) see it through (and do a good job of it), c) reflect on what you've learned, what you'd do differently, etc. d) choose something harder, and go to step a, until you're where you want to be. * ironically this is the way to learn anything.
@@SeanLumly Well, the game is already compatible and it's running on the PS5. The VR is nothing more than a headset and controllers feeding the console with data if your hands and head xyz location. And a screen. PSVR1 games will absolutely be compatible with PSVR2. Next gen functions like haptics and eye tracking will just be disabled.
RE7 running at a completely locked 60 FPS even on the PS4 was super impressive even back in the day (ofc it was a hard requirement for PSVR but still). I’m not even surprised how well the next gen patched versions have turned out with such a great base of performance to build on. I just wish they’d bumped up the abysmal texture resolutions from the original though.
This is actually pretty damn impressive. 4K/60fps plus (some) Raytracing?! 1440p/60fps mostly stable woth some Raytracing as well?! *And then 4k/120fps and 1440p/120fps as well?!?!* That's pretty damn impressive if you ask me. It would be so damn dope if they got Devil May Cry 5: Special Edition to run at 4K/120fps as well, as these games all run on the same engine. I wish they got that squared away as well. Dang.
VRR is almost a must in this new generation of consoles PC it helps a ton. The lessons I’ve been seeing is get VRR as soon as possible. I highly recommend it it’s great.
Absolutely. Went from a 60hz screen to a 144hz adaptive sync display on PC and my life has changed. It's not even just about high refresh rate either, using RT on demanding games and keeping framerate in the 48-60 range is amazing with VRR, you don't notice drops at all while playing and not looking for them.
@@steel5897 absolutely agree. I’ve had my new TV with VRR for a month now, and it’s been a joy replaying launch games like Miles Morales using it. It’s also made an incredible difference to MSFS2020 on the Xbox.
Is it though? It was originally advertised as being able to do everything the SX can but at a lower resolution but that is obviously not the case. Going off of what was originally promised by Microsoft I would say that it is holding up poorly in comparison.
I know it would probably ruin the feel of the game, but I really wish Capcom would add a 3rd person mode like they did with Village. It's always cool to see these games from that perspective.
Playing this in VR was incredible. I went back and tried it without VR and it felt like the soul of the game had been taken away. It's just completely different.
There's some great spots that the video doesn't show. Inside the house is pretty awesome, moonlight shining through the window, casting shadows and dust particles floating around. It makes it more atmospheric, to me at least. Basement area is probably terrifying, lol.
4k 120fps in this game on Xbox Series X / PlayStation 5 is simply phenomenal and if you wanted that level of visuals and performance on Pc you’ll spend nearly 3x the price
Why are you lying ? Did you even watch the video ??? Bruh this shit is fake upscaled 4K with heavily reliance on reconstruction, even he said it's a blurry mess in motion. I can build a 500$ PC with a 6600XT that will literally smoke a PS5, just by running at native 1440p Ultra, that will make this upscaling look like shit
Great video. Why they don't drop the resolution on Ray tracing mod on Series S to 1080P is something I don't understand. Just let players choose. Those with vrr may prefer 1440P and RT with drops but those without would enjoy the 1080P locked (Or almost locked) 60 fps with RT.
Fun reflections bit: the late-game survival knife and SMG are both in much better shape than earlier weapons and they are extremely shiny with RT on, plain without. GI is definitely where RE7 RT shines though. I have several shots I've seen that are far more transformational than anything shown in this video. Just compare the camper with and without.
Still blows me away that $400 consoles are getting RT and 120fps gaming. There is lots of overhead left in 120fps mode given that the framerate doesn't drop. Would be cool to see how high it could go.
Agree about the overhead but im questioning the resolution 4k checkerboarding, so the game is not running on native 4k? I dont see any reason why not since there is still performance overhead left
That’s Because this isn’t an open world type of game (at least not like gta5) so yea makes sense why they can do 120 fps well. But yea good point. For maybe the first time ever, the latest consoles are actually very solid/good computers. Which was usually never the case in the past. Nice to see. They still can't do full ray tracing well at all it seems like, but that's because that's very hard for good computers as well.
Can we all agree Capcom has consistently put out bangers with some mash from a technical perspective these last few years? Res Evil, Street Fighter, Monster Hunter, Devil May Cry. The hits just been coming!
Good video! I'd like to ask the DF community: do you think implementing RT is worth the effort if it has to be used in half measures like "reflecting only the logs, but not the foliage"? It kinda detracts from the point in my mind... having a "true" reflection that still isn't actually representative of the scene. I'm somewhat indifferent toward RT used in that context. Do you agree?
I wouldn't expect it to get much better as time goes on. RT is going to be done in half measures this gen. The AMD ray accelerators used in the consoles currently are AMD's first stab at the tech and aren't really all that great. I expect they'll optimize performance when RT is enabled as time goes on but I personally don't expect much more than the more subtle, less demanding RT options to be used in most games this gen.
I finished RE7 on PS5 today (for the first time in general actually) and the RT did not convince me at all here. But the 120 fps mode is the real deal, it feels incredibly smooth. After that I started RE Village which runs at just 60 fps and it's sooo bad in comparison. First person needs more frames, that's the thing.
I feel like if instead they took time to boost foliage,draw distance,even better shadows,texture quality. At 4k. Or even take away checkerboard rendering it would make more difference than ray tracing.
i am a proponent of rt but yes this is a tricky one, the representation shouldn't omit most things imo.. otherwise the poor representation of scene outweighs the good persistence/pervasiveness of rt reflection's. The consoles are stuck in an awkward spot regarding rt performance. Developers clearly want to use ray tracing and the wider industry is already there tech wise (the fact the consoles had rt in first place was impressive as pc hardware only just barely got half way decent at it) So i feel devs generally want to move to rt in engine, but consoles have some limitations that make rt less obviously a win. It's not just raw performance though, the engineering effort put into real time rt is insane. Denoising seems to be the most challenging aspect.. Already seen GI for consoles working well, so there are suitable ways to use rt, and the engineering on consoles will improve moderately. later in the generation we should be seeing games with more stable and consistent lighting with nice gi, shadows etc. Going back to your question, i feel that lots of detailed reflections in high poly complex shaded games feels to me to be the heaviest and trickiest rt issue atm. I may be having bias of experience on that, but after playing Hitman 3 rt and cyberpunk (3080 edition... ) the variability in content, people/lots of alpha transparency etc needs large performance overhead in such a complex environment.
@@flohzz6644Dude for real. A current gen patch for Alien: Isolation would be so dope. There are several games that need patches. Mad Max is another game I’m positive could run 4K/60 on modern consoles. How about Max Payne 3? The Order 1886, Driveclub, Arkham Origins, etc. So many games that have the overhead where it wouldn’t cost studios/publishers much time/money to release current gen versions. I know people were mad about the recent Red Dead port and it’s certainly overpriced but being able to play that game at 4K/60 was a delight and I wouldn’t have even trusted a remaster from modern Rockstar without it being a mess so I think a simple 4K/60 port was the better choice. If they applied the same formula to GTA IV and gave us a 4K/60 patch along with the better textures from PC I’d have one of those boners where you have to call your doctor. It will sadly never happen though.
Honestly, they should have stuck with SSR for the puddles / water outside in the swamp / forest areas. Because those RT reflections don't include the leaves on the trees and other foliage, they end up reflecting way too much sky and looking way too bright. Other than that, it looks great.
5:06-5:15-the difference in lighting between the 2 consoles for the forest floor and the house are pretty apparent, thanks RTGI ! ps: idk why but I still feel that the left one seems more realistic🤷🏻♂️
Exactly! For both RE7 and RE8, I play them with RT off because they look better and more realistic to me. RE2 and RE3, on the other hand, I feel they greatly benefit having RT on.
Honestly, this more leaves me impressed with what was accomplished on One X. I only really paid attention to this game on PC and didn’t know it looked that good.
One x is/was a banger of silicon. So many of the super solid 4k updates for games looked so good. If it wasnt for the old cpu, it would be better than a series S. The gpu subsystem was built for 4k, so devs seem to have had a much much easier time implementing it. Ff15 at native 4k hdr.. wow!!!
0:19 yea cool VR support, only for PSVR tho cause screw VR on PC right? Thank God we have modders like Praydog who can give us VR support on PC. Screw exclusivity for VR and companies like Sony & Facebook for doing it
Feel like if they make RT 1080p60 on series S it should run great. Targeting 1440p with RT is a little much for the console. Maybe even make it a dynamic 900-1080p just to give it a little more headroom to run RT without a problem.
@@NyneIX9 it’s the same for all newer games coming out. For some reason developers are just locking games at 1440p30 on series S. It’s nice that the console can hit 1440p but a 1080p60 mode is always better. I guess it’s faster than actually going into the game and dropping all the preset high/very high assets to around medium quality and getting a 60fps return.
i played the game and finished it for the first time on PC a couple of days ago, it still looks amazing and RTGI is very well implemented here, it's heavier than RE8 for reasons but if your card is beefy enough it's worth it!
Don't forget to cover the PC versions as they're really borked and deserve to be discussed. They broke resolution scaling and FSR doesn't work right. TAA doesn't work correctly either and is noticeably worse than the old version
@@219SilverChoc yes there made a post acknowledging the massive outcry demanding a downgrade. You can now downgrade it through the betas tab in the game's properties
Hope a review of the PC updated patch is coming. Really interested in the DF finding on it. It was so poorly optimized on DX12. Also complaints for the raised min spec were so prevalent that Capcom allowed the previous patch via steam beta tab. Honestly didn't make sense why DX11 would be removed even in the updated patch.
They don't mention it in the review, but playing this game via backward compatibility on the PS5 had an issue where certain bright areas (like the sky in the opening sequence) had some really bad artifacting issues. That seems to be fixed with this version finally, at least when using the RT mode, so that is a very nice improvement.
Just saying the CPU is equivalent to ryzen 7 3700x. 2070 super equivalent GPU. With a fast SSD. I know it’s cool they are in consoles now but it’s almost 2 years old.
@@jorge69696 Checkerboard rendering with a last gen game running on next gen hardware, it's not as impressive as some think considering the leap in hardware power. Personally, I think they could have done better with ray tracing than they did, especially with 60fps.
If it's actually "good" SSR (Not the dogshit cheap SSR RE engine uses), sure. That does come at a performance cost though. At times I just prefer seeing cubemaps instead of SSR since they at least don't cease to exist when you actually look at them...
Looks like RE7 has had a decent upgrade. The upgrades for RE2 and RE3 are disappointing due to ray tracing being the only upgrade and the fact that it cripples performance. If they had lowered the resolution to around 1800p or slightly lower, maybe it could have been more stable
Can someone please explain to me why Capcom did the trees like how they look at 4:30? Nobody ever talks about how garbage everything looks in this sequence when you’re driving and it’s like you’re driving into a 240p UA-cam video from 2010.
It does suck that a lot of the texture work was muddier (no pun intended) due to this games age but still having a better lighting accuracy model still makes it look better even if texture work makes the implementation less striking than it could be.
Digital founder do the best reviews ever . I like graphics and digital foundry is the only channel on you tube that talks and breaks down graphics. 5 stars out of 5 for digital foundry. Keep up the excellent work. It is so appreciated. ❤️❤️❤️❤️
It's a really well optimised game overall. Played it on PS5 with 120 fps. Felt amazing! And the instant loading every time I mess up, not even 2 seconds.
RE 7 is still my favorite RE game. So scary and in your face. IMHO, it is almost perfect. My favorite mainline RE games in order RE 7: Biohazard RE 2 REMAKE RE 2 RE 1 RE 3 Nemesis RE 3 Remake RE 4 RE 8: Village
The Xbox Series S version is impressive considering the specs when compared to the Xbox Series X and PS5. Series S seems to be a good little game machine.
Not really, the PS4 costs just 100bucks more, do your comparison with that in mind. The Series S is way too expensive for what it is and cant deliver on the power side.
@@ICEMANZIDANE I"m pretty sure you mean PS5 All Digital version, but yeah you have a point. Would have been nice to see the Series S at $250 launch price, however, I have seen it for $275 lately, so not a bad price and one could purchase 2 possibly 3 games with the savings over the PS5 All Digital.
When they show all 3 side by side when lookong at the trees in the water the ps5 version has alot of grayish tint to it but they say there is no difference between the 3 when you clearly see they are! Good job DF! Even when you have a flaw from the ps5 version right in front of yall it gets ignored!
They just released fidelityfx 2.0 for xbox aswell its what they probably wanted for series S I can see going forward the series S will be hitting higher FPS with crisp image quality
Still can't uderstand what is the purpose to push 120Hz everywhere. The difference is small compared to 30/60 jump. It lowers picture quality and is useless in slow paced games like RE7. What also bothers me is this mania over 4k res., which is also pointless, when you have very low res. textures. 1440p is enough when textures are sharp and use af.
Difference is no juddering while playing. If you don’t see that I can’t help you. I agree 1440p on ultra does look sharp. But 4K on a big 4K screen looks just as sharp as long as the textures are good
It's about how it feels to play at that point, not how much smoother it looks. High frame rates past 60, or 120 are less about what the eye can see, and more about how it feels. 4k is useful for people that like playing on big TVs at a relatively close distance. That said, 4k is where it should stop. 8k is pointless because at some point the detail seen is negligible or imperceivable as you'd have to sit uncomfortably close to see it.
PS4 Pro really spoiled me, because I barely notice any differences from my PS5 version, especially on RT mode. The biggest jump was Xbox One S version to Xbox Series S, the ONE S was a blurry mess, compared to a sharper, much detailed Series S.
They remove bloom for almost all of the light sources in the game. Also, there's a huge frame drop at the Lady Spider boss environment later in the game. Besides that the game looks nice.
can anyone explain me why dlc triple in size on the last update? also why it defaults to FSR + FXAA+TAA? (on PC obviously) TAA is stupid option. i always disable it.
Lol are u watched the video , xbxsx is not better, he is even worse than ps5 because of that one stutter that dg foundry captured , when on ps5 dg not saw that stutter. Why it's better? PS5 version is better cause of dualsens features, resolution and fps are identical between this 2 consoles.
The lack of ps5 representation earned a dislike from me! At the start of each chapter, u only showed ps5 for 2 seconds and the xbox stuff for the rest of the video. U gotta show EQUAL REPRESENTATION of ps5 and xbox.
The VR version blew my mind. It was like playing Mario 64 for the first time in the 90s. I've only had 2 completely shocked 'wow' moments like that in 36 years of gaming and this was one of them.
Had totally the same view as yoy
Only 2 times? How is that even possible. There's been way better games than mario 64 by a lot.
@@GForceIntel you clearly don't understand what he is saying.
@@GForceIntel They are saying groundbreaking "this shit is wild" moments. Everything after Mario 64 was just a better looking version of the same games.
Imagine what PSVR2 will bring to village, 4 and old titles
The performance on PS5 and SX looks amazing here. Even series S showing solid performance. So hype for Village and RE4 on PSVR2
amazing performance for an OLD game wow... the hardware is 8 times faster and yet its just a bit better : /
@@PrefoX 🤡
@@PrefoX I mean running 4x the resolution and double the frame rate equal exactly 8 times the performance xD
Yeah amazing performance for a 5 years old game...
The PSVR2 will be an epic failure just like the 1st version. VR is a joke nobody asked for!
It was already a really good looking game before! Love that they’re taking time to add these features into these games.
actually its not good looking, even for its age. And the RT is very bad
@@PrefoX bro it looks fine lmao it’s not state-of-the-art in the rendering department but it definitely has a distinct style that is realized successfully in the engine. I guess it’s subjective and some seem to have different standards than others, oh well I guess I’ll just go play video games and stop complaining about em.
@@uncleurda8101 we found the person playing on the VCR Xbox one....lol
played it on pc not long ago its very washed out and xbox and ps versions look worse lol even with the new update
@@uncleurda8101 you will have the time 8
Yes Tom Morgan is back. I thought he had left DF. Good to hear his voice : )
Why would he leave lol
@@annabeldomenech4806 Because it's been a while since the last time he appeared in a video.
@@FunkyGalaxyCat you don’t follow his Twitter ?
@@annabeldomenech4806 No and you?
@@FunkyGalaxyCat duh why would I ask if you do if I didn’t 😂
As someone who completely finished re7 on ps5 let me tell you
1. in later parts of the game like the greenhouse fight with Marguerite or the boathouse fight with jack you will see HEAVY drops with ray tracing on so it gets worse the farther you go
2. Ray tracing on makes the stutter more apparent when moving between areas
3.load Times in re 7 were always an issue being 1-2 minutes long now its 2 seconds
Thats the limitation all the tech reviews have,they dont play the game thoroughly and usually dont cover later updates unless is highly requested.
@@itsmorbtime2536 yeah man, I get it which is why I'm not being a dick about it just letting them and anyone else who's interested know
Thanks for letting us know!
Makes sense, those were heavy fights that created frame dips on the original release.
Nothing VRR can't clear up.
@@leonfrancis3418 The problem is VRR can only do so much. PS5's VRR only works from 48+ frames while Xbox supports it from 40+. I've been playing the Series X version with VRR and I've noticed drops as well in the later stages of the game. It's probably going to be worse on PS5 since it has a weaker VRR implementation so I wouldn't rely on it if that's what you're using.
I love RE7 to death. It was a much needed moldy, grimy breath of fresh air for the franchise, and is firmly placed in my top 3 RE games.
It was only a bit above mid. A 3 hour game with like 5 mins of story was a letdown for me
@@David-nd4to I'm sorry to hear that. I personally adored RE7's atmosphere and story. It feels like playing a grindhouse found footage flick, which I totally dig, and all the characters, even Ethan, have such strong performances and writing behind them. The Baker family are truly a wonderful bunch, and are franchise icons to me. I also appreciated that RE7 was a return to the series' survival horror roots. The DLCs also added a ton of quality content. That's just my take though.
As for RE7's length; practically all RE games are 2-4 hour affairs. So I don't really understand your slight against 7 since it perfectly falls in line with its predecessors. The majority of an RE game's length comes from not knowing what to do or where to go. Once you do though, or if you're just familiar with these games, you can blaze through them quickly.
@@David-nd4to dang is the game that short . The last game I played that short was a game called the bouncer and when I finished I was like wtf it’s over
@@lizardman1303 game is not that short. That dude's high.
@@lizardman1303 my first playthrough of RE7 was like 7½ hours. I've replayed it several times though with additional runs lasting 3-6 hours depending on difficulty, how much I'm item hording, collectibles, etc. Not A Hero, which is a free epilogue DLC (and essential content imo), adds an additional 1-2 hours. If you're a series veteran you can breeze through it in 3 hours, but if you're a casual fan or if this is your series introduction it'll take you much longer, trust me.
RTGI is so good, cant wait for it to be a common feature used in most games. Also nice to see Tom back in action.
Seriously dude. Once you see RTGI it’s like you can’t go back.
IMO, it is THE most impactful type of Raytracing. Especially when updating older games.
@@RicochetForce it's also the most expensive which is why it's not too common
@@denisruskin348 yea, sadly we forever stuck in this shit ass cross gen era ....
@@BlueisNotaWarmColour kinda, i think it depends to the optimization, most RT i saw is extremly bad optimized..... imo only RTGI is really worth it.i would absolute LOVE to play old classics with a RTGI remake, HL2, Prey, Bioshock.....
I love how more games are pushing for 120fps. Framerate makes a world of a difference for me.
Totally!
True
120fps > RT
@@SolidMGSnake Could not agree more
I prefer graphics over framerate
I hope there will be a PSVR2 patch later on. This game is so much better in VR.
I feel like they just might considering Village is getting the full PSVR2 treatment. All they need is the head tracking for RE7. That'd be a hell of an experience w/ the boost in visuals & resolution.
Don't you think it'd be better to make the official VR versions for PC too? Anyone with a VR headset that works on PC would be very happy, including Quest 2 owners lmao.
Better than locking the VR versions behind 1 headset only for consoles too, not everyone likes consoles or wants to buy a PS5 just for a VR version of a multiplatform game.
Capcom should know this by now and start porting the versions on PC, same thing for RE8 and RE4 Remake VR in the future. Sony should only do VR exclusivity with their 1st party titles, not multiplatform franchises like RE.
I have to assume Sony are more consumer friendly than Facebook and probably could do timed exclusivity at least, right? Considering they've also been porting their 1st party titles to PC slowly but surely. Just praying this time it'll be different for RE4 Remake VR at least
The vr actually kill immersion for me that detach hands effect is annoying I feel like my character is a pair of detach hands! And is incredible that at this point all vr first person games do this still! It kills my immersion completely
@@nemesisencounter2060 Boneworks bro.
Boneworks.
@@Glitch5970 check out VR mods for RE8 and 7 much better than "official" versions.
Really Really REALLY hope this gets an update to be playable with PSVR2, along with RE8 😍
As a developer, I'm of the mind that backwards compatibility is possible, and I hope to see it (there are tons of great games). In the plausible scenario it doesn't exist, I too would like to see an update to RE7 for PSVR2.
Hell yeah. With those excellent new VR controllers exploited.
@@SeanLumly mind if I ask what you’ve worked on/how many years you’ve been in the business?
@@avgnfandon2 I appreciate the question, but maintain distance from personal details surrounding my life while using social media, and so will have to decline to answer.
However, I suppose I can say that I am relatively new (though have been developing for some time), with a specialization in realtime graphics.
If you're asking for advice: build stuff.
a) Choose a project you think you can handle (it doesn't matter how advanced it is),
b) see it through (and do a good job of it),
c) reflect on what you've learned, what you'd do differently, etc.
d) choose something harder, and go to step a, until you're where you want to be.
* ironically this is the way to learn anything.
@@SeanLumly Well, the game is already compatible and it's running on the PS5. The VR is nothing more than a headset and controllers feeding the console with data if your hands and head xyz location. And a screen. PSVR1 games will absolutely be compatible with PSVR2. Next gen functions like haptics and eye tracking will just be disabled.
This upgrade made me wanna go back and beat RE7. Friggin’ love this game.
Toooom I missed you
RE7 running at a completely locked 60 FPS even on the PS4 was super impressive even back in the day (ofc it was a hard requirement for PSVR but still).
I’m not even surprised how well the next gen patched versions have turned out with such a great base of performance to build on. I just wish they’d bumped up the abysmal texture resolutions from the original though.
@ITalk....😂😂
As a proud Englishman, I could happily listen to Tom reviewing every single game. Like a comfortable pair of trousers.
Welcome back, Tom! Great work, as always.:-)
XS/S is killing it VRR supporter screen is 🔥🔥
yup, the Series S makin' the ps5 look bad 🤣🤣
This is actually pretty damn impressive. 4K/60fps plus (some) Raytracing?!
1440p/60fps mostly stable woth some Raytracing as well?!
*And then 4k/120fps and 1440p/120fps as well?!?!*
That's pretty damn impressive if you ask me.
It would be so damn dope if they got Devil May Cry 5: Special Edition to run at 4K/120fps as well, as these games all run on the same engine. I wish they got that squared away as well.
Dang.
ray tracing is overhyped, barely noticeable, and not worth the performance cost. this gen's normal mapping it is not
@@hydroxyzine1136
You're welcome to your opinion, my fellow Gamer. As is everyone. 👍🏾
Dmc 5 does work at 4k 120
I played it last month with that option
@@Mustafa_9628
It does? On Xbox Series X?!
@@BrotherKnowledge. yes
VRR is almost a must in this new generation of consoles PC it helps a ton. The lessons I’ve been seeing is get VRR as soon as possible. I highly recommend it it’s great.
Absolutely. Went from a 60hz screen to a 144hz adaptive sync display on PC and my life has changed. It's not even just about high refresh rate either, using RT on demanding games and keeping framerate in the 48-60 range is amazing with VRR, you don't notice drops at all while playing and not looking for them.
@@steel5897 right only like 12% own VRR that needs to be higher it’s amazing.
@@steel5897 absolutely agree. I’ve had my new TV with VRR for a month now, and it’s been a joy replaying launch games like Miles Morales using it. It’s also made an incredible difference to MSFS2020 on the Xbox.
@@steel5897 yeah Cyberpunk at 45fps let's go
G-Sync since 2014 here, can't believe how long consolers have been and continue to be going without.
Wow it’s nice to see Xbox Series S holding up well, especially if you have a VRR display.
Is it though? It was originally advertised as being able to do everything the SX can but at a lower resolution but that is obviously not the case.
Going off of what was originally promised by Microsoft I would say that it is holding up poorly in comparison.
For real, it’s impressive how well it’s holding up. Jumped into RE7 on it and it played and looked great with VRR
@@chrismorrison5301 😒
@@chrismorrison5301 bro it’s 300 bucks supporting 1440p 120hz and ray tracing. By far the best bang for ur buck gaming machine ever made
@@chrismorrison5301 not to mention it’s $200 cheaper than the original Xbox one
I know it would probably ruin the feel of the game, but I really wish Capcom would add a 3rd person mode like they did with Village. It's always cool to see these games from that perspective.
Playing this in VR was incredible. I went back and tried it without VR and it felt like the soul of the game had been taken away. It's just completely different.
It's the superior version indeed. Thats why i bought a PS5! Hopefully 7 gets an psvr2 utdate.
I still haven't played 7 and am refusing to until I get vr.
For real. It’s the scariest game I’ve played in vr with 3D audio, without it it’s just okay, it feels like it was designed for VR
I mean to me the soul of the game was taken away after the hardcore playthrough. Once you know it by heart, it loses its effect.
I mite need a Playstation if Microsoft doesn't decide to make a VR headset. I have an Oculus but it won't have the games the Playstation VR will have.
Good to see Tom is back,
Don’t see much of an improvement with RT outside of very select scenes. The big upgrade was 120fps support. Definitive way to play these games
There's some great spots that the video doesn't show. Inside the house is pretty awesome, moonlight shining through the window, casting shadows and dust particles floating around. It makes it more atmospheric, to me at least. Basement area is probably terrifying, lol.
Why do you need 120 fps for Resident Evil? Not exactly what I would call a fast paced game. 60fps is more than sufficient.
60 fps is more than enough.
@@vinniethegreat9645 1st person games always benefit from more FPS
I have no idea what 120 fps looks like unfortunately.
Man I was worried Tom had quit or something, glad you're back.
This engine is amazing.
Can't wait to see Dragon's Dogma 2 use it.
The RT reflections do seem pretty meh sadly... the GI does change the vibe and look of the game. I dig that at least.
4k 120fps in this game on Xbox Series X / PlayStation 5 is simply phenomenal and if you wanted that level of visuals and performance on Pc you’ll spend nearly 3x the price
yea, imagine how good games will look towards the end of these consoles life cycle. Its only going to get better from here.
Why are you lying ? Did you even watch the video ???
Bruh this shit is fake upscaled 4K with heavily reliance on reconstruction, even he said it's a blurry mess in motion.
I can build a 500$ PC with a 6600XT that will literally smoke a PS5, just by running at native 1440p Ultra, that will make this upscaling look like shit
Great video. Why they don't drop the resolution on Ray tracing mod on Series S to 1080P is something I don't understand. Just let players choose. Those with vrr may prefer 1440P and RT with drops but those without would enjoy the 1080P locked (Or almost locked) 60 fps with RT.
Because that is not how they was design.. smh lol.. play pc until it does
xbox just announced on twitter that fsr 2.0 is coming to xbox so soon you'll get 1440p image quality at 1080p performance. best of both worlds.
has to do with how many TVs have trouble with switching resolutions, and have trouble with anythimg besides native res
Fun reflections bit: the late-game survival knife and SMG are both in much better shape than earlier weapons and they are extremely shiny with RT on, plain without. GI is definitely where RE7 RT shines though. I have several shots I've seen that are far more transformational than anything shown in this video. Just compare the camper with and without.
Still blows me away that $400 consoles are getting RT and 120fps gaming. There is lots of overhead left in 120fps mode given that the framerate doesn't drop. Would be cool to see how high it could go.
Agree about the overhead but im questioning the resolution 4k checkerboarding, so the game is not running on native 4k? I dont see any reason why not since there is still performance overhead left
That’s Because this isn’t an open world type of game (at least not like gta5) so yea makes sense why they can do 120 fps well. But yea good point. For maybe the first time ever, the latest consoles are actually very solid/good computers. Which was usually never the case in the past. Nice to see. They still can't do full ray tracing well at all it seems like, but that's because that's very hard for good computers as well.
Well it’s RT or 120… not at the same time so far
But still very impressive, especially the SS
@@jarde1989 they’re amazing machines for the money I mean could you imagine the cost of a PC to get RT at 120FPS would be insane
You mean $300 or $500
The HDR in this game is insane. Looks so good.
In ps4? Because the hdr on pc is broken its very dark
@@bachir5767 I don't think he's talking about PS4.
@@bachir5767 HDR is one area PC gaming is actually a little behind on versus consoles.
Can we all agree Capcom has consistently put out bangers with some mash from a technical perspective these last few years? Res Evil, Street Fighter, Monster Hunter, Devil May Cry. The hits just been coming!
Yes. We agree.
You wot m8? Facts though
Dumb comment.
Good video! I'd like to ask the DF community: do you think implementing RT is worth the effort if it has to be used in half measures like "reflecting only the logs, but not the foliage"? It kinda detracts from the point in my mind... having a "true" reflection that still isn't actually representative of the scene. I'm somewhat indifferent toward RT used in that context. Do you agree?
I wouldn't expect it to get much better as time goes on. RT is going to be done in half measures this gen. The AMD ray accelerators used in the consoles currently are AMD's first stab at the tech and aren't really all that great. I expect they'll optimize performance when RT is enabled as time goes on but I personally don't expect much more than the more subtle, less demanding RT options to be used in most games this gen.
I just don't think it's worth the performance hit, if I can't get it running above 60 I don't use it
I finished RE7 on PS5 today (for the first time in general actually) and the RT did not convince me at all here. But the 120 fps mode is the real deal, it feels incredibly smooth. After that I started RE Village which runs at just 60 fps and it's sooo bad in comparison.
First person needs more frames, that's the thing.
I feel like if instead they took time to boost foliage,draw distance,even better shadows,texture quality. At 4k. Or even take away checkerboard rendering it would make more difference than ray tracing.
i am a proponent of rt but yes this is a tricky one, the representation shouldn't omit most things imo.. otherwise the poor representation of scene outweighs the good persistence/pervasiveness of rt reflection's. The consoles are stuck in an awkward spot regarding rt performance. Developers clearly want to use ray tracing and the wider industry is already there tech wise (the fact the consoles had rt in first place was impressive as pc hardware only just barely got half way decent at it) So i feel devs generally want to move to rt in engine, but consoles have some limitations that make rt less obviously a win.
It's not just raw performance though, the engineering effort put into real time rt is insane. Denoising seems to be the most challenging aspect..
Already seen GI for consoles working well, so there are suitable ways to use rt, and the engineering on consoles will improve moderately.
later in the generation we should be seeing games with more stable and consistent lighting with nice gi, shadows etc.
Going back to your question, i feel that lots of detailed reflections in high poly complex shaded games feels to me to be the heaviest and trickiest rt issue atm.
I may be having bias of experience on that, but after playing Hitman 3 rt and cyberpunk (3080 edition... ) the variability in content, people/lots of alpha transparency etc needs large performance overhead in such a complex environment.
This is great, and I love the support RE7 gets from capcom. I just wish Alien Isolation got the same love from its devs.
Imagine alien isolation on current gen console in 4k, 120 fps (easy doable) and ultra pc settings.
At least it’s playable at 60 fps on Xbox.
@@flohzz6644Dude for real. A current gen patch for Alien: Isolation would be so dope. There are several games that need patches. Mad Max is another game I’m positive could run 4K/60 on modern consoles. How about Max Payne 3? The Order 1886, Driveclub, Arkham Origins, etc. So many games that have the overhead where it wouldn’t cost studios/publishers much time/money to release current gen versions.
I know people were mad about the recent Red Dead port and it’s certainly overpriced but being able to play that game at 4K/60 was a delight and I wouldn’t have even trusted a remaster from modern Rockstar without it being a mess so I think a simple 4K/60 port was the better choice. If they applied the same formula to GTA IV and gave us a 4K/60 patch along with the better textures from PC I’d have one of those boners where you have to call your doctor. It will sadly never happen though.
High frame rate mode looks so good, almost makes me want to delete my data and play it again 😄
Just get all the trophies/achievements again, that’s what I did
@@MrFitness94 how would do that unless you use another account?
@@cun7us there’s a separate trophy list for the ps5 version
@@MrFitness94 oh I see. I use Xbox which only has one achievement list, but you can easily create another account and do it that way.
Hey! Tom's back!
Still trying to get enough nerves together to complete this on PSVR 😬
The sad fact is that the current consoles just aren't powerful enough to do ray-tracing justice.
Honestly, they should have stuck with SSR for the puddles / water outside in the swamp / forest areas. Because those RT reflections don't include the leaves on the trees and other foliage, they end up reflecting way too much sky and looking way too bright.
Other than that, it looks great.
5:06-5:15-the difference in lighting between the 2 consoles for the forest floor and the house are pretty apparent, thanks RTGI !
ps: idk why but I still feel that the left one seems more realistic🤷🏻♂️
Exactly! For both RE7 and RE8, I play them with RT off because they look better and more realistic to me.
RE2 and RE3, on the other hand, I feel they greatly benefit having RT on.
A bit bummed they locked the update behind a paywall for PS Plus users…
Luckily I picked the game up on a sale for 10€ like 2 years ago and never played it. Until now :D
Even though it's a last gen game, 4k 60 with raytracing is so impressive.
Checkerboarded.
@@adrianhosein7698 so what is checkerboarded? Its still looks good!
@@adrianhosein7698 Noone cares.
Do that with another 500 $ pc and do that for a period of about 10 years without upgrading parts.
Honestly, this more leaves me impressed with what was accomplished on One X. I only really paid attention to this game on PC and didn’t know it looked that good.
One x is/was a banger of silicon. So many of the super solid 4k updates for games looked so good. If it wasnt for the old cpu, it would be better than a series S. The gpu subsystem was built for 4k, so devs seem to have had a much much easier time implementing it. Ff15 at native 4k hdr.. wow!!!
Little Man is really putting in that work!! And all it takes is a well optimized game. Who woulda thunk
0:19 yea cool VR support, only for PSVR tho cause screw VR on PC right?
Thank God we have modders like Praydog who can give us VR support on PC. Screw exclusivity for VR and companies like Sony & Facebook for doing it
Feel like if they make RT 1080p60 on series S it should run great. Targeting 1440p with RT is a little much for the console. Maybe even make it a dynamic 900-1080p just to give it a little more headroom to run RT without a problem.
More options like this would've been nice.
@@NyneIX9 it’s the same for all newer games coming out. For some reason developers are just locking games at 1440p30 on series S. It’s nice that the console can hit 1440p but a 1080p60 mode is always better. I guess it’s faster than actually going into the game and dropping all the preset high/very high assets to around medium quality and getting a 60fps return.
i played the game and finished it for the first time on PC a couple of days ago, it still looks amazing and RTGI is very well implemented here, it's heavier than RE8 for reasons but if your card is beefy enough it's worth it!
I brought this game day one for PSVR. Wish I had the nerve to play it ......
I'm an older grown ass man and this game gave me chills playing it on my big screen. I can only imagine it in VR. lol
Don't forget to cover the PC versions as they're really borked and deserve to be discussed.
They broke resolution scaling and FSR doesn't work right.
TAA doesn't work correctly either and is noticeably worse than the old version
Yeah I am holding off to play the RE2/3 remakes till I see some details if worth the performance loss because it really is poor from previous versions
Didn’t even know they borked resolution scaling, Alex’s video is gonna be a long one lol. Can you downgrade it yet?
@@219SilverChoc yes, through STEAM settings
@@219SilverChoc yes there made a post acknowledging the massive outcry demanding a downgrade.
You can now downgrade it through the betas tab in the game's properties
It looked very blurry to me. Must be the scaling.
Hope a review of the PC updated patch is coming. Really interested in the DF finding on it. It was so poorly optimized on DX12. Also complaints for the raised min spec were so prevalent that Capcom allowed the previous patch via steam beta tab. Honestly didn't make sense why DX11 would be removed even in the updated patch.
They don't mention it in the review, but playing this game via backward compatibility on the PS5 had an issue where certain bright areas (like the sky in the opening sequence) had some really bad artifacting issues. That seems to be fixed with this version finally, at least when using the RT mode, so that is a very nice improvement.
The new next gen update looks amazing in the outside areas
Almost perfect 4K/120 its a great result for a console even if its in a last gen game.
But p.c guys told me this wasnt possible on a console
Just saying the CPU is equivalent to ryzen 7 3700x. 2070 super equivalent GPU. With a fast SSD. I know it’s cool they are in consoles now but it’s almost 2 years old.
It's checkerboarded so it's not native 4K.
@@jorge69696 Checkerboard rendering with a last gen game running on next gen hardware, it's not as impressive as some think considering the leap in hardware power.
Personally, I think they could have done better with ray tracing than they did, especially with 60fps.
@@braedonlock3359 The consoles themselves are 1 and a half years old, what do you espect? technology from the future?
I know I’m in the minority here…
But I think RT is massively overrated lol
SSR with higher res/frames is the way to go in my opinion
If it's actually "good" SSR (Not the dogshit cheap SSR RE engine uses), sure. That does come at a performance cost though.
At times I just prefer seeing cubemaps instead of SSR since they at least don't cease to exist when you actually look at them...
8:20 mark, that sound takes me back to the old videos lol.
Awesome Video DF.
Yh the New-Gen Upgrades for RE7 is really spot on and definitely more than welcome on all New-Gen Platforms.
Playing RE 7 on PSVR was a blast. Can't Wait for RE8 on psvr2! Not going back playing the regular way unsless i get motion sickness.
I always play in VR standing,I get motion sickness when I’m sitting.let’s go psvr2!!!
Looks like RE7 has had a decent upgrade. The upgrades for RE2 and RE3 are disappointing due to ray tracing being the only upgrade and the fact that it cripples performance. If they had lowered the resolution to around 1800p or slightly lower, maybe it could have been more stable
Ray tracing isn’t the only update. They have 120hz modes as well.
That and it kills pretty much all the current PC mods.
I just played RE3 to the end and it plays amazingly well with RT on and if you don't have the framerate counter equipment connected.
It was nice to hear that old DF soundtracks in the background. Don't seem to hear them much these days.
Can someone please explain to me why Capcom did the trees like how they look at 4:30? Nobody ever talks about how garbage everything looks in this sequence when you’re driving and it’s like you’re driving into a 240p UA-cam video from 2010.
4k120fps on a game that looks this good? Honestly, well done to Capcom. They've been on fire for years, and I hope they keep going.
Be nice to see a PC video on this subject
It's being worked on at the moment.
Tom Morgan is back, give it up for Tom!
It does suck that a lot of the texture work was muddier (no pun intended) due to this games age but still having a better lighting accuracy model still makes it look better even if texture work makes the implementation less striking than it could be.
Cause it was oriented to consoles. I was surprised how bad and lazy that white van in beginning of the game was done
Digital founder do the best reviews ever . I like graphics and digital foundry is the only channel on you tube that talks and breaks down graphics. 5 stars out of 5 for digital foundry. Keep up the excellent work. It is so appreciated. ❤️❤️❤️❤️
The only channel?
It's one of the best ones, but there's like a million out there...
@@corey2232 very few consistently cover technical details like these though.
my man tom is back
the PC VR mod of this game is currently the best way to play it
The RT GI looks great, the RT reflections are way too shiny.
4k120 on current gen. not bad ! (yes I know it's upscaled)
Right? For $399-$499 complete gaming devices, hey not bad.
In a world of $1000 PC graphics cards.
It's a really well optimised game overall. Played it on PS5 with 120 fps. Felt amazing!
And the instant loading every time I mess up, not even 2 seconds.
Yay Tom's back been awhile since we heard from him
This game needs to be psvr2 support
When you play it vr, is there an improvement with this version??
This is the game that made me buy the PSvR, it’s amazing in VR
You can't play this version in VR.
@@Harry101UK hope then they patch it for psvr2
New consoles is so awesome! All 5, X/S 🙂
RE 7 is still my favorite RE game. So scary and in your face. IMHO, it is almost perfect.
My favorite mainline RE games in order
RE 7: Biohazard
RE 2 REMAKE
RE 2
RE 1
RE 3 Nemesis
RE 3 Remake
RE 4
RE 8: Village
Time to go play it again 😊
The Xbox Series S version is impressive considering the specs when compared to the Xbox Series X and PS5. Series S seems to be a good little game machine.
Not really, the PS4 costs just 100bucks more, do your comparison with that in mind.
The Series S is way too expensive for what it is and cant deliver on the power side.
@@ICEMANZIDANE The Series S is a next gen machine with a modern CPU and super fast SSD. The PS4 ? I'm sure you mean the PS5 Al digital ?
@@ICEMANZIDANE I"m pretty sure you mean PS5 All Digital version, but yeah you have a point. Would have been nice to see the Series S at $250 launch price, however, I have seen it for $275 lately, so not a bad price and one could purchase 2 possibly 3 games with the savings over the PS5 All Digital.
Looks great on Series X
Sure does, I’m about to replay it after i beat RE4
Great video, Thanks Tom
Anyone else experiencing moments where the game freezes on Xbox series X?
Yes
When they show all 3 side by side when lookong at the trees in the water the ps5 version has alot of grayish tint to it but they say there is no difference between the 3 when you clearly see they are! Good job DF! Even when you have a flaw from the ps5 version right in front of yall it gets ignored!
It looked like it was stuttering a bit on ps5 also when it didn’t ob series x, but maybe my eyes are bad
They’re the experts
Tom best boy~
My Series X is on the way Today, finally i can play this Game with all its Glorious Enhancements
They just released fidelityfx 2.0 for xbox aswell its what they probably wanted for series S I can see going forward the series S will be hitting higher FPS with crisp image quality
120 FPS on PS5 & series X is the real deal .
Ps5 Digital only costs 399 Vs Series S 299
Don't get scammed by Microsoft
@@nguxurr9667 Can get the Series S everywhere for 200😂 Ebay, Facebook marketplace, open or damaged box sales...
@@mazzalean077 Like I said think twice before getting scammed by Microsoft
@@nguxurr9667 Don't see any scams here
@@mazzalean077 😂😂😂 you will once you compare the Ps5 with Series S
And Ps5 only costs 100$ more
As always, the Series S is still a decent little machine
Tom! Good to hear your voice again.
Still can't uderstand what is the purpose to push 120Hz everywhere. The difference is small compared to 30/60 jump. It lowers picture quality and is useless in slow paced games like RE7. What also bothers me is this mania over 4k res., which is also pointless, when you have very low res. textures. 1440p is enough when textures are sharp and use af.
Difference is no juddering while playing. If you don’t see that I can’t help you. I agree 1440p on ultra does look sharp. But 4K on a big 4K screen looks just as sharp as long as the textures are good
It's about how it feels to play at that point, not how much smoother it looks. High frame rates past 60, or 120 are less about what the eye can see, and more about how it feels. 4k is useful for people that like playing on big TVs at a relatively close distance. That said, 4k is where it should stop. 8k is pointless because at some point the detail seen is negligible or imperceivable as you'd have to sit uncomfortably close to see it.
This game is a classic. Played it back in the day on ps4. Time to replay it again
Back in the day XD
I'm adjusting to people referring to 2003 as back in the day and here we are saying that about 2017
PS4 Pro really spoiled me, because I barely notice any differences from my PS5 version, especially on RT mode. The biggest jump was Xbox One S version to Xbox Series S, the ONE S was a blurry mess, compared to a sharper, much detailed Series S.
Had it on PS4 Pro too, the game looked nice even then with decent performance.
They remove bloom for almost all of the light sources in the game. Also, there's a huge frame drop at the Lady Spider boss environment later in the game. Besides that the game looks nice.
@@DeadPhoenix86DP I hope so, already finished the game in RT, but I'm waiting the patch to play the dlc.
I was waiting for this
SeriesX ftw
can anyone explain me why dlc triple in size on the last update?
also why it defaults to FSR + FXAA+TAA? (on PC obviously) TAA is stupid option. i always disable it.
8:19 that finger shadow tho
Bravo Capcom, love that locked 120 fps!
the best version is the xbox series x
No, the best version is in VR. Which this Xbox cannot do.
@@pixeljauntvr7774
If you like VR
Lol are u watched the video , xbxsx is not better, he is even worse than ps5 because of that one stutter that dg foundry captured , when on ps5 dg not saw that stutter. Why it's better? PS5 version is better cause of dualsens features, resolution and fps are identical between this 2 consoles.
They both use checkerboarding
120Hz mode is the way to go for me.
The lack of ps5 representation earned a dislike from me! At the start of each chapter, u only showed ps5 for 2 seconds and the xbox stuff for the rest of the video. U gotta show EQUAL REPRESENTATION of ps5 and xbox.
Looks and runs good on the Series S. Far better than the way it ran and looked on base PS4 and Xbox One.
Série S and série X 👌🏻👍🏻
PS5 digital 4k and RT and 60fps
PS5 disc 4k and RT and 60fps
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍