DJI Pro vs Real Professional Cinema Drone
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- Опубліковано 21 жов 2024
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$1.5k vs $100k and most people can't tell the difference in footage. Best example of the law of diminishing returns. I'm fine with my M2P.
You could buy an fpv drone for a few hundred, slap a go pro on it and you get the same thing as a mav, except you have more freedom in the air.
N u t GOPRO is not at all as good in the air. I had the actual GOPRO drone and it looked and felt like a toy compared to mavic pro. Gopro are amazing up close but at a distance the image falls apart.
Trent said it right! I have shot stuff with an $80k camera for a television show, and stuff with a 2000 drone, handheld by the landing gear, before hand gimbals, and it comes down to three things, imho, vision, technique and lighting. So much van be done in post with today’s t3ch. H3ck there are a few movies that were shot entirely on an iPhone, set up properly of course, beast cage etc. then you have the Blair Witch project. Bottom line, the tools need to be used to make money. A red camera sitting in the garage doin* nothing, waiting for the once in a while tv spot or movie bit, or the Mavic Pro shooting weddings 3very weekend. It then comes down to red and black ink in the ledger!
Totally, just like most people like Beats better than $1000 plus headphones.
Now with added dual op capability.
" I have less situational awareness flying the Mavic"............... Flys cinema camera into the truck!
He was going for a close shot.... either drone would have been close.
And he's the pilot of the duo. HAHA 🐱👤
LOL. The right "TOOL" for the job XD
@@rag3geCKo Tool is right. He comes off as a total douche bag.
@@TheTonybenavides Hardly. He completely respected the ability of a setup that literally cost 1% of what he uses professionally.
He: "DJI Mavic Pro is cheap"
My wallet: "I'm offended"
Given the amount of tech you get in the Mavic package, it actually is cheap. You are getting a pretty decent miniature camera with good enough professional controls in a very decent gimbal/stabilizer system, attached to a nice computerized quad-drone with helpful automation features for single-person-operation. Also a good remote controller and a nice software package.
I can still remember when I first saw footage of the Phantom 4 (version 1, not pro) on UA-cam a couple years back, I was thinking to myself "I really hope this is less than 3000 bucks so I can immediately get it". But I thought it was wishful thinking and it was probably more expensive. Then I went to the website and found out it was like 1500 with a ready-to-fly package including three batteries. I had to double check because this was so much less than I had expected.
@@highks496 It is true, brother. I meant it in a humorous way. In a satirical way about my budget. It is of an amazing _value_ , surely, but many people will find it doesn't fit their resources.
It sure is my dream, though.
One day...
One day.
That’s like comparing a instant camera with a high end camera. DJI wasn’t meant to do all that it it would cost that much and be that big. Also no ones expecting a DJI Pro like that too be on the same level.
And NO IT DOESNT SUCK.
For the money, there really is no comparison. DJI wins hands down!
Well moneywise the Mavic wins but the big one has a way better camera, way better possibilities with lenses, way better noise from the sensor, way better stability, way better actualy everything but you have to pay for it.
@@12Burton24 and cant be flown in most places that a dji mavic can so another win for the mavic.
@@stringsattached67 Always depends on where you use it. XD
@@12Burton24 the problem with that statement is the "big one" doesn't come with a fixed camera. Therefore, you can't say the "big one" has a better camera because lots of different cameras and lenses can be used on it...
@@12Burton24 also noise is bad, as it induces grain and reduces visability, so how can 'way better noise' exist??
That's why I prefer to drive my formula 1 car more than my Honda Civic.
Eagle1 check your grammar. One prefers A to B and so on.
@@davidhinson7882 thanks grammar police
@@eagle1532 David Hinson is using Grammarly to correct people so don't sweat it. :)
Stop flexing
😂
"Im a professional"
Almost flies 100k worth in gear through his windshield
Trent seems like a total dick
@@szbert it's hard to tell tbh..
@@szbert Actually a super nice guy. Keep watching his videos. Ive had the chance to meet him a few times, and the conversations that I had were super genuine.
Harvey S could say the same about you with that comment? 😉 He’s coming in talking at the highest level of this so cool at least he’s sharing his experiences with others ya know.
Matthew Hernandez hahha facts ik. Idiot
Trent, in case you didn’t know. You can always bind a secondary remote control to the DJI Mavic 2 Pro and let someone else handle the gimbal and recording features while you focus on just flying the drone.
I was going to inform him of this... probably still will. Also... "pro" doesn't mean Hollywood. I make great money with my M2P, and I think that technically makes me a pro.
But the M2P gimbal doesn't pan, only tilts, so not much point of having a second operator.
He just wanted to flex
@@paulraymond1804 it pans
@@juandelrio8556 how do you make it pan
Considering the cost difference, the Mavic held its own pretty well. Maybe the Inspire 2 setup may have been a more "fair" comparison? The color and contrast on the big rig setup is amazing though.
I agree, it's true that there's a huge advantage in splitting the camera from the flying, but the Mavic didn't do too bad. Also, he could've gotten closer with the Mavic on the footage...
I love my mavic and would never spend the kind of money to get a true professional setup but just as you say the mavic held it's own, the only reason that is true is because of the nature of such a basic shoot. If the video was done as part of a professional movie type I doubt it would be able to truly hold its own. I think the real reason it wouldn't hold its own is because of the post processing ability that you can get from having the ultra high dollar cameras attached to the pro rig. Cinematography wise Trent even said that there are others who could fly the Mavic better, which would clean up a lot of his shots.
End of the day I'm sticking with my slightly over $1300 all told setup and saving the extra $99,000 for something like a house.
In the Mavic you can use a secondary remote as slave so one Pilot control the aircraft and the other one do the camera shoots.
@@andresmoragomez really? i just knew
Sure inspire 2 will be more matching match up. but i guess he just want to justify the "pro" from mavic 2. but comparing the two of it just too far apart
Next up, this guy compares index finger vs Sonicare toothbrush.
LOL
😂😂😂😂
This comparison is essentially between a RED camera and a consumer camera. It's a no brainer really but as far as the drones are concerned I'm for the dji, what value !
I might have missed it, but I don't think you acknowledged that the Mavic Pro range can be operated by dual operators with separate gimbal and a/c control via a slave controller. Also, yes you can turn of GPS mode in Mavic and use ATI mode.
Yup, and some gimbal smoothness can be configured so camera movement is not so harsh as he complains. Bottom line, he is aware that 'he is not the best Mavic pilot' but actually he is not aware how huge that gap in his knowledge really is. GPS, second operator, modes and settings for smooth camera movements,...
Exactly!
Oh shit.
Yul Hubbart Uh, he mentioned the price of the big one a couple times. In fact he complimented the Mavic several times on being an awesome drone for what it's made for. Even said they've used it for certain tight shots the more expensive one couldn't get because of its size. He's doing a comparison for people that don't know much about multirotors, not trying to show one is better.
You can only use one controller at a time. As soon as any control on the master is touched, the slave cannot be used. This was the same as dual controllers on the original mavic pro.
As a total amateur I REALLY enjoyed you putting the effects on the video as you were talking about them. I don't speak that language so it was awesome for learning. Thank you.
"I am professional drone pilot...." 5 minutes later crashed into a car
Йурег hahahahahahahaha dammit you killed med 🤣
Being professional doesn’t nowhere mean you make zero mistakes. But I did find it funny too honestly
Йурег yeah he’s a dumbass
speeks for him, that he kept it in the final video ;)
He has the balls the take it into the video....you would just cut it.
Really interesting comparison. Regardless of the comparative issues, it was cool to see a hi-end verses a consumer product. Thank you for taking the time to showcase.
When applying 'Pro' to cameras, it's clear that 'Pro' has morphed into 'Prosumer' not necessarily 'Professional. Which, in relation to the Mavic 2 Pro, merely means it's in the top bracket of consumer drones. In this regard, I think the Mavic 2 Pro is probably accurately named.
I always assume PRO stands for PROsumer. A nice consumer level drone with enough performance to be used for certain professional applications. Nothing beats a 2 operator heavy lift though!
That could be it! Pro does normally imply professional but prosumer is a total possibility
@@TrentonPalmer good come back
@@TrentonPalmer PROficient would be the way out for a manufacturer acused of misrepresentation.
The word “Pro” is more of a marketing term than anything else and it’s been used as such for years.
@@gapster46 Ya, the word "pro" is used as freely as "turbo"...
The winner here is the Mavic 2 Pro. Amazing quality for a consumer drone.
John Trussell Foreal, he’s used to his red of course he’s gonna be on the red side lol
You aren't wrong. Problem with the term Pro is the lines have absolutely blurred across all forms of creativity because of technological innovations. People make meaningful content on iPhones. Tai Lopez made 50 million using a camera phone up right...So what is pro? I think the features for the price of the drone is pretty impressive considering with color grading he got the shots to look pretty similar. However he was able to get better pan shots and rotational edits because he could shoot in 8k.
You’re looking at 8K VV, REDRAW and a H265 from the M2P compressed via UA-cam’s h264 compression and watching it probably watching it on your phone. Throw it up on a real screen or projector and it’s very obvious who wins
@@ReadySetGoPictures That was too much for John
@@12Burton24 My bad
Once you practice the single operator enough with the Mavic 2 Pro, I think you'd be really surprised how close footage you could get.
Thumbs up for actually showing the difference when the f-stop is changed at 7:49.
I wonder how many actually noticed this? This guy is very down to earth and a great drone operator videographer.
From the perspective of a photographer entering the drone world, it's amazing how many dronetographers don't know or seem to care about the basics of photography. ISO, f-stops, white balance, lighting and all the rest don't seem to get much attention
@@souocara38able The channels I follow certainly hit all of these marks.
Was a nice touch to be sure.
I was checking to see if anyone else commented this before I did haha, nice.
This is like comparing a chicken nugget to a Bugatti
lol love the exaggeration
What are you trying to say! Hahaha...
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I like chicken nuggets.
Next week, this 100K drone shouldn't be called professional compared to the falcon 9.
I'm a PRO! Hold my beer while I crash the cinema camera with that car!
Best thing you ever hear at the flying field - "hold my beer and watch this!"
"That's $100k flying in the air"
Trent- *Runs into truck*
😂😂
What can I say, I like to live dangerously 😜🤣
@@TrentonPalmer Great vid, keep it up.
@@TrentonPalmer Trent Danger Palmer....
Bernoulli effect, I’ll bet.
“Missed it by that much” (in a Maxwell Smart voice)
I think when you do sketchy stuff you have to call yourself “Plamer”
Great video and I was really impressed with the DJI video quality compared with the $100K set up.
color grading
You’re looking at 8K VV, REDRAW and a H265 from the M2P compressed via UA-cam’s h264 compression and watching it probably watching it on your phone. Throw it up on a real screen or projector and it’s very obvious who wins
Well Mavics camera is not bad but the big one has way better image quality, way lower noise in the image....and way more possibilities. You can take longer lenses...with the mavic you are not able to film wildlife in a respectful way.
The Mavic line is relatively common around here among professional camera teams who shoot for tv and/or industrial film. It's nice to have it in your bag and be able to get a few additional aerial shots just like that. It does increase the perceived production value of your tv piece or docu piece or whatever without adding extra cost. It's so small you can pack it in a bag and always have it in your car, ready to fly in 2 minutes.
Funny enough the main reason I got my first Phantom a few years back was that I had time and time again spent an hour or two searching for a spot on a hill to get a long shot of some village or town, often with no good results. With a little drone, you can get that long shot from the air in 5 minutes, even with some nice tracking movement.
So, the little Mavic does add perceived quality to my work and that of others in my situation. And for us it's either get those shots with a Mavic, or don't get them at all. There is no way I could lug an Alta with a Red to most of my shoots and also get an additional cameraman or drone pilot to operate it.
I think that's the point of the video though, I think he understands that and is trying to make a case for why you should hire him instead because he's worried; and also needs to convince his wife, that the remortgage on his house he took out to pay for the drone and camera will be worth it.
I think he's worried because mid-tier budget productions are starting to question why they need to pay for 2 guys to fly a drone plus camera hire when they can get similar aeriel shots from 1 guy and at a lower rate with a DJI or similar prosumer drone.
@@tjmarx lol
@@tjmarx you're on drugs
The thing is that you are comparing two incomparable things.
Honda civic vs lambo comparison.
He compared them tho....Sooooooo
TriMotion Media sooooooo what? Fucking soooooootard
What are the criteria for comparability then ?
You can compare a $100,000 speedboat to a $4 billion dollar aircraft carrier if you want. What's more, if the criteria being tested is speed, the speedboat will probably win the comparison. Some comparisons will be _unfair_ because the result is a foregone conclusion (for example, the speedboat is not that likely to win if you evaluate its compliment of aircraft) but that doesn't mean it can't be compared.
Very intersting video! Would be great to see some more videos about your drone business in the future.
I second that! Incredibly interesting!
Great Stefan! How is your sailing season going? Have you been able to sell your Libelle yet? When will we have new videos? Greetings from Brazil.
Hey @@papatangovictor ! Currently it is winter in Germany and I´m preparing my ASG29 for the flying season. So the next videos will be more about technical stuff... And yes, my Std. Libelle is sold. Cheers, Stefan
Yes I agree.
Yeah man maybe like a secondary channel with like drone stuff. I learned a lot from this video and it answered some questions I had.
I think that he is afraid of all DJI pilots that will take his work....I don’t blame him. He has invested a lot of money, time, effort and now the DJI smashes the gaps. This is revolution. Remember when the first computer was an entire room? Now we have iPads and laptops.
I think you are completely wrong. For anyone that thinks that you could do even a fraction of the quality or have even half the capabilities with a Mavic vs the professional octocopters?....... has never watched a professional rig do its thing. I worked on Venom and there is no way on God's green earth that the little drone could of had a snowball chance in hell of doing what the professional drone could in downtown ATL. Just that base platform is min 30k. Flight time, speed, range, optional freq bands with various flight methods. It really isn't even a comparison. That larger drone outperforms in every single area it could other than size for cramp quarters. As well, commercial drone tech is advancing at no less of the pace than off the shelf, best buy units. I'm in picture cars, and I love hanging around and watching these guys do their thing. There just isn't a comparison.
You are a really blended dji fanboy
@@peterlustig6888 enlight me!!! You probably posese the truth!!!
@@greekdroner What?
You DJI trolls should stop comparing go pro quality cameras to actuall film cameras
@@peterlustig6888 better start learning the difference between DJI and GO PRO....Also you should try to be a lawyer!!!
5:52, is it just me.. or this accident is a masterpiece? i mean, If i were watching, I WOULD FEEL IMMERSED.
As long as you shut the sound of its absolutely perfect
honestly it would make a good ford commercial. "Built tough enough to break the forth wall"
@@mbrn-wm The sound makes it better
Yeah, it really did feel immersive. Don't care what haters say here. Still nice video.
I agree it is hard to be aware of the drone and the surrounding location at the same time.
This has to be the most stupid review I’ve ever seen. Also while being the most interesting. Well done.
and most stupid comment ✌
I wouldnt call it a review. hes not reviewing them. He's comparing the DJI being called a "Pro" as compared a real "Pro" drone
@@ShootLuckGaming then he should of used the actual pro line which is the inspire line not the mavic line, or at least a experienced maavic flyer
@@YoungBlaze agreed. plus the footage looks nearly the same when watching on youtube anyways. compression is a bitch. The mavic can fly 44.7mph, so they obviously werent driving the truck at 40mph and not being able to keep up.
Shoot Luck Gaming he’s really not comparing a pro drone to a “pro drone” but rather comparing the cameras on them for one particular purpose. Its a very niche video. Im a professional drone pilot as well but i do site acquisition and analysis, search and rescue, and agricultural surveying all in one. For my purposes I use an inspire 2, an air 2, and a phantom 4 rtk with multiple payload options for site analysis they work due to the ease of the ease of flight and driving between nearby sites so it has to be quick and mobile. Search and rescue is ideal with the air 2 because of the flight time and ability to whip around really quick but I rarely have jobs like that so roi also factors in. A more appropriate title would be “comparing a hollywood cinematography drone to a general purpose professional drone for Hollywood cinematography”
He doesn’t realize that he’s comparing a 1.5k drone to a 100k drone.
Yes but he means the 1.5k isn't really a pro and he is showing you the real pro the Cinema Camera =)
maybe you gonna read the title again
Which he admits during the video. Did you listen to the entire thing?
The alta is 18k
@@eliyanongusa3880 Factor in the camera and gimbal though. That comes with the mavic but not on a cinema drone.
Who still remembers old movies in which they shoot aerials with helis and u can see heli shadow in movies time flies man😂
"In the Heat of the Night" is one.
Plus rotor blast when it's close to the ground.
I suspect only those of us looking for such things would see them.
They still do. I work for a company on the side who perform this daily.
If you want a 155mph tracking shot for over two hours not twenty minutes, give me a call
Mavic pro2 is good for low budget every body can’t spend money on expensive drones
Mavic pro cheaper and easy to operate video quality not bad so so beginners it’s good .
which drone do you recommend me ,,,i dont want biginners drones ,,
confusing to see you discredit the mavic, and you try to compare 2 shots that arent even similar
That's kind of the point. You can't do the same shots on a Mavic that you can do with a 2-person operated drone with a 360° motorized gimbal and a zoom lens.
He didn't "discredit" the Mavic. He was just pointing out why exactly he is using a 100k setup in his daily work.
@@highks496 Except he did an absolute dogshit job of flying the mavic, he didn't even try to fly in close to the truck, or do any manouvering at all, he just flew in a straight line parallel. The he could have flown across in front of the truck with the mavic, I think he didn't because he can't be arsed to try a hard shot with the mavic when his intention was just to crap on it anyway. Of course the professional drone looks better, it's carrying a far better camera but he makes the mavic look crap by not trying to get a good shot with it.
@@OktoberSunset Did you not watch the video, he couldn't keep up with the truck in the Mavic, and a sweeping shot under that condition will be incredibly fast and jerky.
I consider “pro” a better version of a standard product
That's an amazing gimbal to take a truck hit and come back to level like nothing happened!
I don't think the gimbal took a hit. He only touched the car with one of the landing gear feet
Thanks for recording black equipment in the dark, really helps us to see what we're looking at
I would like to see a DJI Inspire 2 (or latest) vs Real Professional Cinema Drone
Yes, compare to Inspire 2 would much better. Is it worth the extra 50 grand.
I was thinking the same thing. It probably would be close between the 2. Also you can fly the inspire with 2 persons.
Jens Mannens 2 people
@@jamescarter8311 The Red camera with a custom made cinema zoom lens will definitely be better than the X7 on the Inspire. But is it *worth* that much more money? Well it depends. It's definitely worth that much more if you get paid well enough. If you're just breaking the bank and not making any money with it, then no, it's not worth that much more.
Really, the emphasis is always on skills and practice. I play a musical instrument, to near professional capability. People often say the instrument sounds great! Then I put in on the table and say “now how does it sound”! Yes that is jerky. But it emphasizes the point of skill and practice. I often times watch and rewatch your videos. I analyze your content first, then I look at the mastery of your ability to tell a story through film. Often times it is the “B” role that I enjoy the most as this sets the place and theme.
I am so thankful that you share your passion for flight, but it is really a study in cinematography!
Don’t be modest. If you are who I think you are, you are indeed a pro musician. Love your videos. Like your comments here too. I fly and played guitar semi-pro-now retired. Trent hooked me with his cinematography too. Have a nephew who loves drones too; he is a business jet pilot. So it’s all good, right? Take care.
Stringman1950 Trent is Awesome... I am hooked on all the Flying Cowboys! Thank you for the compliment!
The same goes for photographer/videographer as well! People often ask what kind of camera do you use and how much, then they go "owh this camera takes great photos!"
THis is a great breakdown on real pro vs fake pro. Thanks Trent.
Just for saying it, it is possible to fly the Mavic with two controllers!
(I have done it)
The Mavic Pro works with 2 controllers but not the Mavic 2 he was using. The older Pro has limited camera pan control of 15 degrees which allows some fine tuning of camera direction relative to the craft's orientation but it is of limited utility.
Since you comparing with professional, should you at least use Inspire 2?
scince well put
I'm thinking he just wants to show off his expensive media drone.
He has got an Inspire 2, uses it when there is not enough space to operate the Alta safely. The thing in this video is the term 'pro' that DJI uses incorrectly with the Mavic. The Inspire does not claim to be 'pro' in the name.
But the Inspire 2 needs to have the word "PRO" attached.
Or the DJI Matrice? It's a hexcopter I think, and is used on film sets...
"Professional" only means you get compensated for what you do.
A paper bag carrying Tupperware for someone who sells Tupperware is "pro gear".
High End, thats subjective. Different people expect different things from what they use.
Casey Neistat made a very good living as one of the most successful independent filmmakers today. He used these 1 to $2k drones endlessly.
That Mavic Pro could easily have a $20k price on it, and it would sell. Not to the average consumer, but to highly paid professionals like yourself. That footage you needed on the balcony was done on that drone. If it couldn't create usable footage to sell and make a profit for you, you wouldn't use it. It wouldn't be a professional piece of gear. But it does and it did. And You would profit having spent 20k to have it around for such events.
That's not pro. I picked up a Reaper drone and can even create international incidents for fun now. 100k pffff cheap lol. Reapers cost 16m.
wuss
The more you talk, the more I want to know!!!
Sorry to say but like that you are grounded, 'coz you still make good interesting vids!
So don't be sorry, title was clear, if people are not interested, just don't look at it!
And don't get me wrong, still eager for the fix on that engine to get you back flying!!!
07:50 love the transition in exposure you have done in post processing of this video to explain what you are saying. excellent man!
I'd say the use of the word 'Pro' in a product name simply implies it has some enhanced features over a more basic model. It's also just a buzzword that manufacturers know people will gravitate too so they can sell more product.
Well the one thing I think about when I hear pro is pricey. Might just be me but pro tends to be a turn off for me.
Spoken like a Pro!
The M2P looks really frikkin good in comparison
I like Trent. Just seems like an all-around cool, down to earth, honest guy.
I feel like what gets lost in all this is that the "pro" in these products most often times is short for "prosumer," not "professional"
Now let’s talk real world. The Mavic Pro 2 was able to hold its own pretty darn well considering it’s about $98k less than the cinema rig. This takes the law of diminishing returns to a new level I would say. Great video to show examples of just how close or not a consumer drone compares to a high end product, since not many people out there have a setup like yours to do this kind of test. Actually I think those people who do have a cinema setup comparable to yours don’t even bother to spend the time or risk of using their equipment to make this type of comparison video. So kudos to you for doing this for the rest of us mere mortals out there.
Dude you have more subs then most ya will ever have! Get a profile pic
The law of diminishing returns is very much in effect everywhere in the broadcast and cinema world... did you know that one of the huge, grey boxed 100x zoom lenses that you see in major league sports stadiums costs half a million dollars each? A tripod and fluid head for one of these lenses is like 25k. But apparently, tight close-ups of players in the game sell so much beer and chips that it's worth having up to twenty of those things at every game.
However, you would see a night and day difference if we were watching the comparison between the Mavic and the Red on a huge movie theater screen with a professional 4k projector. Especially if somebody did some more extensive grading on the footage, like they usually do in big movies.
I do like the Mavic though. It really delivers pretty darn good quality for a very competitive price.
DJI did pretty good up against that beast I was impressed. I'm sure if DJI had a $100,000 drone it would put that drone to shame.
I don't think they'd need 100,000$ to even beat that drone
The DJI Matrice 600 pro is a potential competitor
Why don't they? They already make gimbals and vertical integration has its advantages.
So lemme get this straight. This man is scared of flying a dji drone cause it’s too hard to...multitask?
lets be honest, most people don't have a $100,000 drone so many are used to the Mavic.
You’re talking about a guy that flies an airplane. I’d put his multi task skills against yours any day. As a pilot I know how many thing you have to be aware of at once.
@@mitchwolf5038 clearly not if he is struggling to do something that most people watching this have no problem doing.
Your color grading is very good. I wish you had a video tutorial on that.
Kudos to you for being honest about experience on difference models. And seeing pros and cons with both models. Not one of those "THIS COST MORE AND ARE THEREFORE BETTER NO MATTER WHAT"
I liked the part where you showed what a dial change in color and light meant vs a click change. Pretty cool!
if you watch this at .75 speed he sounds like a drunk drone pilot
If you watch this in 1.75 speed he sounds like my math teacher
@Gloria Stoner I'm pretty sure anybody at .75 playback speed will sound drunk.
No...you didn't ramble on too long!! Great to see this - every flight video of yours I watch, i'm asking these questions! Thanks
Great video. Yep, $1500 is a lot easier to swallow than $100k. I'll be getting a DJI Pro this spring.
i also want to buy the Dji mavic 2 pro with hassleblad camera and fly more package this spring £1350 + 279 for the fly more combo.
Yeah, that Hassleblad camera looks nice.
D
Still have the mattress pro
I think the mavic "pro" is called that because it's the closest a consumer with little knowledge of flying can get to a professional shot. Basically my 9 year old daughter could fly a mavic and get a beautiful shot. Your Alta on the other hand requires a wealth of knowledge and experience to get a good shot.
Nice to see the wide range of drone equipment. I certainly agree with "Use the right tool for the job." Well done.
It's all about what you need the drone for. "Professional" just means you do it for money. I got a kick out if this because I've been in a drone industry for a long time, but in the military environment. When all the kids started playing with drones in the film industry, I use to joke about how they are just toys. If you ever want to talk about "real drones" give me a shout.
Ok, im giving you a bit of a hard time but you get my point. It's all perspective. Good video though, especially for the non initiated to get a peak behind the curtain.
Yeah, the military stuff makes even our larger industrial setup look like child’s play
You want to talk about real planes give me a shout in the fighter jet department 😂
@@cadenorris4009 fair enough haha. I got hurt (hip and back) early on in my career and was allowed to stay in a bag by "volunteering" to move to drones. My brother is an eagle driver and makes sure I get a healthy reminder of my status whenever possible lol. I will say the civilian job market (and pay) has helped though 😁
Next level shit doesn't even describe those bad boys!
To be honest what I notice is that you did more cinematic moves and closeups with your experience Hollywood setup. And you follow the truck at a far vertical distance with not swing movements. The quality in the air as far as video goes I see no life changing difference between either the red or the movie. Video quality would make more of a difference on the ground, where you would use DOF and see the true dynamic range of the camera you choose. On the ground I use GH5 and in the air I use both Phantom 4 and Mavic 2 pro.... We have to remember it’s about story not expensive equipment. And no shade, but working in Hollywood for 9 years is kool but so is being independent and following your dreams through with ever equipment you choose.
I was thinking exactly the same. Video quality under these circumstances seemed comparable...he didn't even try to get comparable shots between the two setups.
@@christianostmo "to be honest what I notice is that you did more cinematic moves and closeups with your experience Hollywood setup. And you follow the truck at a far vertical distance with not swing movements."
Well exactly. Have you tried doing these moves and close-ups from a car at 40 mph with a Mavic or Phantom? It's fucking impossible. The lens is a super wide angle, he was probably flying the Mavic at the exact same distance to the car than his Alta 8 setup.
Also getting the perfectly smooth swing-around shots of a fast moving object with perfect framing is impossible with the Mavic. You could try and use object tracking or any of the other computerized helpers with the Mavic, they might get you a little closer to it, but you are never going to be as versatile and quick to react as with a 2-person setup and a 360° gimbal and a zoom lens.
@@christianostmo Video quality of the Mavic is pretty good and looks nice on UA-cam. If we were watching this in 4K on a big ass movie theater screen, you'd see the difference like night and day.
I was hoping I wasn’t the only one that’d notice this. Had he actual tried to use the Mavic’s movements and fly closer he’d be able to get a comparable result.
I fly many types of RC aircraft including a dji drone and found this video very interesting thank you.
Whip out the ole single rotor! Do it like the old Runryder days. It’d be fun to compare some of the old footage from back in the 2000’s and how hard we used to work to achieve that perfect shot.
chopperpix haven’t thought about Runryder for a long time!
No more RunRyder...sad.
Louisiana Helicam - shows you how long I’ve been out of the game! How’s it going my friend! Mark, right?
@@chopperpix That's right!
Next week Kitfox vs A380! Ok I'm kidding but these drones are in different markets. Your big rig is the full movie industry set up and makes most people drool. The Mavic is a flying Go Pro. Oops "pro" again 😀
Good luck with Kitfox parts..can't wait to see you in the air again!
The strafing shot was AWESOME! SO worth it!
I was just at DJI yesterday looking at some of there stuff. This is going to be good Trent, thank you!
did you manage to buy any dji drone ??
@@adilos3411 No Sir I haven't yet. Still researching but I know DJI will likely be my first package. I'm really looking at the Best Buy DJI package here...
www.bestbuy.com/site/dji-mavic-pro-platinum-quadcopter-fly-more-combo-platinum/6122225.p?skuId=6122225
How does something like this, your Toyota Yaris, compare to something like this, my Ferrari 812 Superfast
Since my last note, my nephew in New Brunswick, Canada, has purchased a drone which does great video. He sent me one flying over my growing-up home area which was really good. I sent him this link to show him what you have for your professional work. Thanks.
Professional definition:
2a: participating for gain or livelihood in an activity or field of endeavor often engaged in by amateurs
a professional golfer
b: having a particular profession as a permanent career
a professional soldier
c: engaged in by persons receiving financial return
professional football
Just sayin'
Adjust gimbal setting to smooth out your camera on the mavic.
Very good comparison video Trent! Truly offers praise to each tool's respective qualities.
I think someones butt hurt that Dji owners are producing footage thats easily matched to his hundred grand prosumer drone.
he literally says he uses it on sets instead of his 100k setup so...i dont really think thats the case there bub
but can it really be pro if it didn't cost xxx!?!?! lolz but hearing him complain about "I can't just fly the air craft and I can't just operate camera so it's just too much" oh poor maybe can't multi task... It leads me to believe he has much less talent than a lot of the UA-cam pilots on here.
"I've have years of experience" flies into his truck.
trust me im a pro!
"That was meant to happen, bro... I crashed professionally." :D
Very good video. I like that you shared your bias and didn't let it overwhelm your comparison. Obviously your Alta is THE professional set up, but I am happy to see you suggest the DJI product has merit. Thanks for sharing your very professional opinion.
Yes, the Mavic did not do a great job. But then again, you had no idea what you were doing. Using the DJI follow mode on the truck would have blown away your shot with the big dumb dinosaur drone.
You are incredibly limited with the size of the dinosaur and with the new chipsets you have very little advantage in picture quality. The dinosaur is incredibly dangerous and the fact that you claim to rarely use GPS tells the world that you don't fly in tight spaces with any wind, but then again, an 8 prop liability maker like that thing is so incredibly limited that no one would even consider using it for anything other than a city skyline or yet another chase shot.
I operated the first Jib in Atlanta during the 80s. Not many people are more skilled at hand-eye coordination, but I would never try to wrestle a move out of any kind of drone. I program the shots, including aperture. Waypoints with changing points of interests if I need an incredibly complex shot, but most shots are just a dolly, or a crane shot, both programmable on a DJI, but not on the dinosaur. (I use third party software) And the aperture changes are smooth.
The DJI Drones have thousands of uses that a large, 8 prop monster does not. They carry rather advanced cameras engineered for their use, not adapted by a series of 1980s robotics. I can set up waypoints that dictate speed, heading, camera tilt, aperture, point of view and preset framing. And I can set up 100 of these incredibly precise waypoints for a single series of moves and it will follow the same moves every take. Can you, and can you and the shooter even begin to match the precision or the smoothness?
And if I am in Nowheresville, USA and I lose a drone, I can fix it with a trip to the local Best Buy and a credit card.
You are comparing apples and oranges. They aren't the same and they aren't used for the same things. I shot my first aerials in 1980 for the NBC Nightly News with John Chancellor. I was shooting with an Ikagami 79, Angénieux glass, all on an ancient Tyler mount. That certainly wouldn't compare to your dinosaur. But does that mean that it wasn't professional gear?
You stated that the DJI gear has a place. I would offer that the Dinosaur has a place. I will use a DJI tomorrow. There's not a single shot that I would prefer the big guy. I will be tracking two people in a park and in the final cut, there may be one shot that looks like it was shot with a drone. The others will be beautiful dolly shots, tracking shots, steadycam shots and crane shots, all preprogrammed and shot with a $1500 Best Buy Special.
You are a gear geek. Stop looking down your nose at what others are using and start looking at the results.
FlyingCameradotnet now i feel calm and relax 😜✌🏻👍🏼
That post was awesome and very well thought out. Your experience clearly shows.
I think "Pro" is more about "Prosumer" for the DJI Mavic series, not Professional Cinema or Commercial.
I think you're right. The Mavic does have some features that make it useable in a professional setting to some extent. It does have manual camera controls, zebras and a histogram for example. Pure consumer products are often simplified so much that professional use is more or less out of the question.
Gear is just gear, but if you have gear, know it! You can customize input settings for the controllers on most DJI drones for how sensitive they are and how linear input curves are, and as you mentioned you can set the drone to various modes like sport mode, which lets the drone fly much faster, or cinema mode which smooths out the motions. One of the first things I did with my Mavic Air was adjust the gimbal tilt speed and yaw sensitivity. Yaw control is annoyingly sensitive out of the box, as this video showed.
Love your videos, but want to point out that you CAN operate the Mavic with two people; one on flying and the other on settings/tilt. Of course there is no pan unless the main pilot allows that to happen. It is called the secondary remote feature and was added about a year ago, I believe. Not near the level of real professional equipment for sure, no argument there! My wife and I have actually worked it out where she can pan by operating the rotaion axis but it took a while to get there, lol.......AND we managed to miss the top of the Suburban :)
That is the mavic 1 only . The Mav 2 doesn't support dual remotes yet
Totally forgot about that! I have to chase race cars at the track I work at, and I will agree with Trent that it does get "busy" flying and shooting. Might have to get another controller since they are probably cheaper now that the 2 has come out.
@@youmakeitreal he should still try dual op with a mavic 1.
The Mavic 2 has an undocumented feature that uses the touchpad to pan and tilt. Using a 10' usb cable connecting the controller with the ipad, one person can control the camera and another can control the flight.
@@prowlus Now it does.
Would love to see a video about how someone even gets into the video drone industry. Or how someone could get into the industry in the future! So cool man!
It's pretty easy. Study for your Part 107 with a $5 app from the App Store, pass the test, then start working on cold calling business that market themselves. -starting small with local Golf Courses, Real Estate, Dealerships, etc.. One job will lead to another, which allows your to increase your story making abilities, pricing (by attracting larger paying clients), and gear... Keep this up consistently, and over the next few years, If you are constant and master your craft, you'll find yourself working for the big agencies.
By the way there is a two man setup with the DJI Mavic. Giving you the ability to have one person control the camera. I personally have done it.
You just need a second remote.
It would have been more informative if you used the DJI Inspire 2 for the comparison. It has both dual camera operator capability and interchangeable lenses. Would like to see that comparison in the future.
Thanks
Real professional equipment almost never has the word "pro" on its designation.
AVID Pro Tools would like to have a word with you lol
As a film and media student its very cool to see the difference between the tiers but my biggest complaint is the "let's compare these side by side" and then uses very different shots for the comparison. All the shots on the cheeper drone were filmed from way farther away and were filmed in a much more static nature. Not really a side by side comparison.
You're a bit negative toward DJI for saying the octo is nearly 100x the price...
1% called and they want their word "Pro" back
I just bought the Mavic 2 Pro for my UA-cam channel, in fact the quality is almost too good. My brand new $1,200 laptop struggles to play the video in full resolution and I have to reduce the quality to get the file size down to a reasonable upload size. Also, I do use two operators, one person is a full time spotter to warn of dangers as you fly. Also, the jumpy controls can be real smooth with an experienced operator, just takes time to get really good. And the smaller drone can run circles around the bigger drone at slower speeds, much more manueverable.
The key is the graphics card and the display in terms of smooth playback while editing. I agree with you about being able to get smooth shots though. I don't fly as often as I probably should to stay consistent, but I've accomplished some pretty smooth cinematic-like shots with the Mavic 2 Pro.
why don't you take more similar shots with the mavic?
Awesome insight Trent.
Blue skies!!!
This dude is a stud. Great explanations and lots of information about the industry, shots, operation of drones, features..;.i could go on and on. Subscribed indeed.
well, what a surprise knowing that you get what you pay for when choosing a 200k setup over a 1k prosumer drone. I don't mean to be a dousche, but this is a really unfair comparison - like you'd compare an AUDI R18 to a JETTA on the Le Mans circuit. and BTW, the Mavic 2 Pro is capable of 2 man operation when coupling 2 controllers into a master & slave config ;)
Listen, firstly don't be a douche... watch the video. He says he is comparing the two because one is an actual pro drone while the other is given the "pro" name at the end of it. If DJI calls it's products professional why shouldn't they be tested against PROfessional drone?
I believe you missed the entire point of this video. This comparison was about differences and it could have been far more different than this. I saw a $20 quadcopter at the grocery store today...
@@geraldhenrickson7472 I think PRO stands by if you can make money out of it, and yeah, you can do with MAVIC 2, and doing a lot. You dont hire this kind of professional with 200K equipment to shoot your wedding or corporate clip, its pointless. But you can use mavic like a charm.
Easy answer, because JETTA owners think they have an AUDI R18 until they face reality and it's compared with an actual AUDI R18.
@Henry K. Hill if they are exactly the same than there's no need comparing ;) otherwise please refer to my above example - how much sense would a comparison between an every day car vs a spec built race car make? of course they are both cars, but what they can do / are capable of are vastly different. let's compare them, sure, but don't expect a JETTA to win against an R18.
I do believe that the term “PRO” is relative to the situation. So a Formula 1 driver is just as professional say as a NASCAR or LeMans racer. They’re all pros but with respect to their field. Now that being said, the DJI Mavic’s are definitely professional products imo, just to a different standard.
Exactly
Amen!
Yeah you are showing us what real PRO is like, wow I had no idea. This is cool and valuable information.
btw, going for my glider ppl soon. Got motorglider recently.
Yeah, you barely mentioned the Inspire. With the much improved dynamic range of the xenmuse x7 on the Inspire 2, how much are the differences you mention reduced by the Inspire 2 + zenmuse x7 versus your large rigs? I think the zenmuse x7 might not have any zoom lenses, but otherwise, is the difference much less? PS: One rule of thumb is... almost no truly professional product contains "pro" in the name. :-)
I pointed that out also. It was a bit of an unfair comparison. Would have liked to see the Inspire 2 as the DJI choice.
@@podratic Or the DJI Matrice 600 too.
Dude don't even go there. Hardware in this industry destroy's gimmicky tech. It's just that simple.
@@Mars-by6yr Matrice 600 is a direct competitor of Alta 😅. One built by Freefly one built by DJI. Both usually uses RED cameras
Yeah matrice 600 would be a good comparison or inspire 2
Once you get past his annoyance at the use of the word 'Pro' on the Mavic, it's quite an interesting video.
What if you didn't have to fly the drone or operate the camera. Would you be interested in something like that?
Nice video, quality info👍
Just curious, why not use Inspire2 instead of this huge "Pro" drone you have🙄
He explained in the video. When you shoot comercial, you want to mantain the same camera across the board.
@@Amadeushs Why not a DJI Matrice 600 instead ?
Wow whats that heli thing in the background on top of the cabinet! Looks awsome
Excellent video man. Thanks for this. I think that's it "the tool is just a tool". I work with small companies and events and the mavic pro just fits my needs perfectly. I can bring to all my work "just in case", it doesn't bring so much attention and for the clients is higher quality than they expect.
Same for me. Having a Mavic in your bag is much better than not getting any aerial footage. Price aside, for the type of stuff that I'm shooting, it would almost always be impossible to lug that Alta-monster of a drone along, let alone fly it. But I totally get why you would want this kind of drone for other situations. If I were producing a movie and had a big budget, of course I'd get someone with an Alta and a Red.
It would be interesting to see this comparison with an experienced pilot flying the mavic
Exactly. "it's more skatety and jerky"...yeah if you can't fly it properly!