Steam Deck Tear-Down: Build Quality, Disassembly, & VRM Analysis

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  • Опубліковано 20 тра 2024
  • Our Valve Steam Deck tear-down and full disassembly shows all the parts, PCBs, cooling design, and talks about component-level details of the VRM and ICs.
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    This tear-down of the Steam Deck talks about the battery, the fan and replacement fans (wasn’t easy to find!), heatsink design, screw placement, MOSFET, inductor, voltage regulator, and battery charging IC specs, and more. We’ll cover the VRM current capabilities in this as well, with a lesson on how they work and what they do (for anyone new to this stuff to get introduced). Our hardware review of the Steam Deck is already live on the channel and covered everything else, like battery life, but our focus here is “repairability,” access, overall build quality, and design details.
    TIMESTAMPS
    00:00 - Steam Deck Teardown & Component Analysis
    01:24 - Walk Around of the Steam Deck
    02:12 - Steam Deck vs. Switch vs. Switch OLED Comparison
    02:53 - Opening Up the Steam Deck
    06:00 - Basics of the Thermal Design (See Other Video)
    12:17 - Explaining a VRM & Why It Matters
    13:45 - Power Component Analysis
    14:58 - Power Capabilities
    16:15 - VRM Layout & Configuration
    17:50 - Teaching Moment for These Parts
    19:02 - Battery Charging Circuit Quality
    20:56 - MORE TEAR-DOWN
    22:10 - So Much Thermal Paste
    24:40 - Cables & Connections
    28:30 - Controller Boards
    30:06 - Conclusion: Build Quality, Shortcomings, & Highlights
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  • @GamersNexus
    @GamersNexus  2 роки тому +665

    One correction: the 6A comment would be at a lower voltage (not at wall power), and therefore not a concern. That's our error from pushing through these two videos so fast. But you still shouldn't open your device and then touch stuff while it's running, period.
    If you missed it, we have a full hardware review of the Steam Deck on the channel already: ua-cam.com/video/NeQH__XVa64/v-deo.html (WATCH THIS VIDEO for full details on thermal design, airflow design, power, gaming benchmarks, and more on the Valve Steam Deck)
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    • @robertlawrence9000
      @robertlawrence9000 2 роки тому +1

      Please show more gameplay on the Steam Deck. I'm curious about how well various games play on it. Horizon Zero Dawn, Destiny, Halo, Fallout 4, Skyrim, Red Dead 2 and anymore you would be willing to show. I love the content. Thanks

    • @cannoobin
      @cannoobin 2 роки тому +1

      what are you doing up stillllllll

    • @TheKillerStove
      @TheKillerStove 2 роки тому +17

      @@robertlawrence9000 They can't do that yet, as its only the embargo on the hardware that's lifted. They can only play Control, DMCV, Dead Cells, Portal 2, and Forza right now as a means to show off how the hardware performs under different conditions. The software embargo lifts sometime in the next few weeks

    • @robertlawrence9000
      @robertlawrence9000 2 роки тому +2

      @@TheKillerStove oh dang! Ok. I was wondering why they were showing only certain games only since it's been in people's hands.

    • @flimermithrandir
      @flimermithrandir 2 роки тому +1

      @@robertlawrence9000 They arent allowed to yet because the System Software isnt finished yet. Its only working but VALVE said they need to wait (about) 2 more Weeks to finish it and be allowed to test/talk about it actually.

  • @justincredible5406
    @justincredible5406 2 роки тому +1489

    Valve are legends for encouraging independent reviewers.

    • @Verpal
      @Verpal 2 роки тому +216

      Not only encouraging them, but actually sharing engineering document, not everyone are Beve Sturke who can afford the newest and flashiest testing equipment among UA-camr.

    • @nO_d3N1AL
      @nO_d3N1AL 2 роки тому +64

      No reason not to when you have a good product

    • @papabones8753
      @papabones8753 2 роки тому +47

      @@Verpal AND they want to sell replacement parts for it so you can repair your unit or have someone repair it without having some custom part only they could fix.

    • @GamersNexus
      @GamersNexus  2 роки тому +536

      Valve even shared some of its testing with us, which is incredibly rare. We normally find out one way or another, but sharing information allows everyone involved to do a better job

    • @kw9849
      @kw9849 2 роки тому +20

      I feel like Valve is being congratulated here for things they should just be doing.

  • @JerryRigEverything
    @JerryRigEverything 2 роки тому +21

    This guy is like a smarter JerryRigEverything + hair.

  • @Phosphor66
    @Phosphor66 2 роки тому +827

    I feel like GN is the only media outlet who understands that thermal imaging is not always useful

    • @SSmitar
      @SSmitar 2 роки тому +30

      I know right? No idea why other channels don't go deep on SOC, memory and other component temp itself. Seems like obvious superior testing method to me.

    • @CanIHasThisName
      @CanIHasThisName 2 роки тому +33

      @@SSmitar Simply because that's not what they are specialising on.

    • @xentiment6581
      @xentiment6581 2 роки тому +2

      @@SSmitar takes work and actual tehnical knowledge.

    • @Ghi102
      @Ghi102 2 роки тому +33

      Well, Thermal Imaging can be useful in this specific case since it's a handheld, you can check if the device will be too hot in your hands.

    • @gorjy9610
      @gorjy9610 2 роки тому +5

      Most users don't care about per IC temp. And it's not something they should care about at all.

  • @BurntFaceMan
    @BurntFaceMan 2 роки тому +769

    Gotta love GN for the speed that they manage to put out such insane quality content.

    • @thomasmaier7053
      @thomasmaier7053 2 роки тому +9

      What is sleep?

    • @whizadree
      @whizadree 2 роки тому

      Well don't forget that they had months to prepare

    • @K71421
      @K71421 2 роки тому

      @@thomasmaier7053 I feel that bro

    • @alexisrivera200xable
      @alexisrivera200xable 2 роки тому +9

      @@whizadree Make that about two weeks at the most. You don't have that much time ahead even with preproduction units,the reason is the source. No company likes to have their unreleased hardware out in the wild for too long for security reasons plus its not just GN getting them so the chances of other folks breaking embargo early goes up significantly risking the company's carefully planned and expensive release arrangements and media coverage.

    • @chrinaldi
      @chrinaldi 2 роки тому +1

      @@thomasmaier7053 It is said that the sheer disappointment from Gigabyte PSU exploding and NZXT H1 probably burn itself to death that fuels his energy.
      Or so I was told.

  • @omgawesomeomg
    @omgawesomeomg 2 роки тому +865

    Valve said without the shield between the SSD and Wifi module there could be interference and they discouraged users from swapping the SSD. Would love for you guys to test this and see if swapping the SSD with a non-shielded one is actually problematic.

    • @BillCipher1337
      @BillCipher1337 2 роки тому +46

      I think they are not allowed to test this until release. But i would be interrested too

    • @voxelfusion9894
      @voxelfusion9894 2 роки тому +24

      It depends a lot on how carefully the ssd was engineered to avoid excessive RF radiation, which interferes with the other radio signals used to carry your wifi.
      It'll be highly dependent on the model of the ssd. Worst case you'll have no, or very slow wifi with a bad ssd.

    • @endykun
      @endykun 2 роки тому +6

      It's going to depend on the model of SSD you used to replace it, and how carefully you managed to swap it, it's going to be very variable.

    • @GamersNexus
      @GamersNexus  2 роки тому +515

      Hearting because a lot of people are interested, but this is too variable and outside of our comfort zone to adequately test. We could do anecdotal stuff, but would prefer to avoid it.

    • @Pixelplanet5
      @Pixelplanet5 2 роки тому +27

      @@hiyall15 that would be a one off scenario that doesnt tell you anything about the actual impact.
      you would need to test a lot of different SSD´s and also measure the power consumption of the wifi module at the same time to account for that the module could be using some extra power trying to compensate for the extra interference.
      And even then you still dont know if or how much interference there is as you are only looking at the end result without looking at anything in between like doing an actual spectral analysis of both the SSD and the wifi module.

  • @ZachDxn
    @ZachDxn 2 роки тому +118

    You know Valve did a bangin job when Steve says "I'm impressed" more than once.

    • @fajaradi1223
      @fajaradi1223 2 роки тому

      Impressive is way below acceptable

    • @ZachDxn
      @ZachDxn 2 роки тому +4

      @@fajaradi1223 has Steve ever accepted anything though?

  • @RECE4ER
    @RECE4ER 2 роки тому +352

    All the separate boards for different functions of the device, i.e. independent board for audio, independent boards for analog sticks, is absolutely fantastic. Super easy to replace a small daughterboard rather than the entire board like most devices these days. Way to go Valve!!

    • @PAcifisti
      @PAcifisti 2 роки тому +36

      Was just thinking about that. If you break the audio jack it'll just mean replacing a small board instead of having to replace the entire motherboard.

    • @GoatedWithTheSause
      @GoatedWithTheSause 2 роки тому +18

      And yet Type-C port is soldered to the main motherboard - 11:00. Charging ports get a lot of abuse and often go out first.

    • @wkcs007
      @wkcs007 2 роки тому +1

      @@GoatedWithTheSause Hopefully that will be addressed in a future release...

    • @realhuman4396
      @realhuman4396 2 роки тому +1

      on mobile the comment cuts down at “analog”… you can guess what it is

    • @oblivionshadow9453
      @oblivionshadow9453 2 роки тому

      This can be a downside though if the user isn't experienced since it does not take much to break a ribbon cable or ribbon connector.

  • @yaldabaoth2
    @yaldabaoth2 2 роки тому +117

    8:46 I feel pure joy at this editing magic.

  • @GeckonCZ
    @GeckonCZ 2 роки тому +622

    19:35 It's 6A at 25V max. With voltage potential that low, the thing is perfectly safe. Yes, it's the current flow through your body that's dangerous and 25A is plenty to kill you, but once you put the resistance of your body into the equation (Ohm's law, I=V/R), you will see that with a voltage that low and resistance that high, the current going through your body will never get anywhere near to the dangerous values. In fact, you won't even feel it.

    • @GamersNexus
      @GamersNexus  2 роки тому +458

      Thanks. You're right on that - we pushed the video through too fast and Stone recorded this after a long day, so I think he forgot he wasn't talking about wall power here and was working with a low voltage circuit. I should have caught that, so my fault for not correcting it. Thanks for the correction! I'm going to bed now!

    • @GeckonCZ
      @GeckonCZ 2 роки тому +111

      @@yaldabaoth2 Glad to hear that. I'm an EE. Not sure if Stone is, so I'm not gonna comment on that part. I mean it's always better to make a comment like he did and make the engineers laugh, rather than to go in the other direction and make somebody feel overconfident.

    • @GeckonCZ
      @GeckonCZ 2 роки тому +94

      @@GamersNexus Makes sense. After all, he has spent a lot of time working on PSUs lately. Love the content, keep up the good work!

    • @gorjy9610
      @gorjy9610 2 роки тому +25

      @@GamersNexus it can't kill you but it's enough to burn through that PCB in seconds so warning is good even if point is wrong.

    • @jaywastaken
      @jaywastaken 2 роки тому +11

      Just don’t lick it and you’re good.

  • @SamuraiDeek
    @SamuraiDeek 2 роки тому +196

    Patrick's explanation of the terms VRMs, MOSFETS, controllers, etc and their purpose in the Steam Deck or in the tech world overall was pristine. Steady, articulate and easy to digest. Thanks!

    • @KouroshFarrokhzad
      @KouroshFarrokhzad 2 роки тому +2

      I feel like I'm back in school. This was so comprehensive and helpful. Big thanks to Patrick and GN - and please provide more of these kinds of in-depth explanations - I'm personally going to stay far, far away from 6A charging circuits!

    • @GoldSrc_
      @GoldSrc_ 2 роки тому +1

      I dunno chief, it felt like he was just reading a brochure and not really explaining much.

    • @schellenbergenator
      @schellenbergenator 2 роки тому

      My one criticism would be when he was talking about the charging circuit and he noted that because it can output 6 Amps, that makes it dangerous. Since we're dealing with relatively low voltages, talking about the max amp output, regarding safety, is pretty silly.

  • @KontroldKaos
    @KontroldKaos 2 роки тому +30

    A tear-down video at 4am? Yes, please!

    • @GamersNexus
      @GamersNexus  2 роки тому +17

      That's the best time!

    • @Jonathan.Boring
      @Jonathan.Boring 2 роки тому

      @@GamersNexus yes!

    • @Herbrax212
      @Herbrax212 2 роки тому +1

      5am for me! Insomnia gang rise up

    • @yuh42011
      @yuh42011 2 роки тому +1

      2:28 am for me. WFH for life

    • @SRC267
      @SRC267 2 роки тому

      @@GamersNexus but it's 10:30am?

  • @albertogarciaengineer3053
    @albertogarciaengineer3053 2 роки тому +121

    Love that valve published a how to video on how to replace some components, makes this product more compelling.

    • @mjc0961
      @mjc0961 2 роки тому +4

      Surely you're not talking about that garbage video they made where they claim that we're all too stupid to use a screwdriver and that the battery will kill us if we take the Steam Deck apart. 🤦‍♂️

    • @oKrikket
      @oKrikket 2 роки тому +19

      If that video scared you off then you shouldn't open it up.
      IMO the video made it's point and if you still feel comfortable working on it then it's just a guide on how to open and replace components.
      They don't want any user-errors to come bite them in the ass so best to just scare stupid people off.

    • @All4Grogg
      @All4Grogg 2 роки тому +17

      @@mjc0961 That video is lightyears ahead of their competitors within the right to repair space.
      That does deserve credit, also many, many people don't know how to use a screwdriver correctly or at least, as Steve also emphasized, using the correct screw is REALLY important with similar screws of different lengths. Shorting components using the wrong screw certainly has the potential of resulting in a Steam Brick.
      Taking it to a reputable repair shop really is a good idea and the part of right to repair that many seem to not recognize.
      This also reduces the amount of RMA work on a product that that likely is losing valve money at MSRP in the first place. Not that Valve can't afford it, but the general idea is to continue to build the on mountain of money they have.

    • @eternalinsignia
      @eternalinsignia 2 роки тому +3

      @mjc0961 seriously if you think a lot of people know how to use screwdriver correctly, then you are freaking wrong. In electronic case especially, it is not rare people break screw mount from its plastic housing, this include heatsink (basically you just want stop when you feel enough tension, but the problem, which is enough ?).

    • @phillee2814
      @phillee2814 2 роки тому

      @@All4Grogg Sadly, at usual LiPo charge cycle life, this is going to be a steam brick after about 18 months anyway with daily use since they've chosen to glue the battery in.
      500 cycles is industry standard, although you can con any testers by only using the middle portion of the voltage range so that 500 cycles get used at something like 75% per charge, which might then stretch it to 2 years. Well, you may be able to use it as a wired device until the battery swells and busts up the internals, or worse, catches fire spectacularly (as LiPos have a tendency to do).
      So the most likely item to fail, and the one which fails most dangerously isn't replaceable, which makes any claim to observing "right to repair" a sick joke at best and an outright lie at worst. If that claim is made on any marketing material, expect the legal cases to start when the batteries start dying. Possibly very big cases if they don't fail safely but unplayable at all with a cut-off circuit.

  • @SuperCloneRanger
    @SuperCloneRanger 2 роки тому +168

    25:36 The foam will be conductive, its so the can is grounded without having to be physically attached.

    • @GamersNexus
      @GamersNexus  2 роки тому +91

      Good catch.

    • @BruhMeister993
      @BruhMeister993 2 роки тому +23

      @KULON🔞 UA-cam PLEASE fix this shit, you’re a billion dollar company 🤦‍♂️

    • @filonin2
      @filonin2 2 роки тому +2

      @@BruhMeister993 What, you don't like lops or cold bodies?

    • @BruhMeister993
      @BruhMeister993 2 роки тому +1

      @@filonin2 lmaooo

    • @joshua41175
      @joshua41175 2 роки тому +4

      ua-cam.com/video/zo_uoFI1WXM/v-deo.html in case you didn't know, you can mass report them now.

  • @leotoro51
    @leotoro51 2 роки тому +66

    31:42 Those scenes with very deep field of view are incredible ! I love it - it makes Steve looks almost cinematic ahahah ;) Good job camera man :)

    • @GamersNexus
      @GamersNexus  2 роки тому +10

      Andrew has been killing it in these Steam Deck videos!

  • @alexhaywood3139
    @alexhaywood3139 2 роки тому +63

    The charging ICs 85 degree rating is an ambient temperature rating. It says it can do 3.2W of dissipation at an ambient of 70C, then derating by 40mW/C over 70C. Tj shdn (shutdown junction temperature) is 165C and the default thermal regulation junction temperature (point at which the device throttles back the charge current) is 115C, configurable up to 130C.

    • @Gigator
      @Gigator 2 роки тому +2

      Was looking for this comment, liked! The rush jobs showed here a bit. Still not something major for most people! :)

  • @numa_kai
    @numa_kai 2 роки тому +23

    i love how this looks very serviceable where if one board is damaged, you only replace that and not throw out everything. Simply beautiful

  • @doogdog6965
    @doogdog6965 2 роки тому +8

    Engineer here, blown away at the depth and production value of this tear-down. This is far and away more credible than gaming media outlets!

  • @quantumbits1952
    @quantumbits1952 2 роки тому +25

    HIGH QUALITY CONTENT.
    This is the type of content that me and the community love to consume it's both educational and entertaining at the same time.
    I genuinely learnt and enjoyed watching your videos.
    Really appreciate the time and work that you and your team put into making these.

  • @ragzard
    @ragzard 2 роки тому +39

    Stone's electronics class was extremely interesting and easy to grasp ever for me, a person with very low circuits knowledge. Loved it.

  • @Saturdaymorninghero
    @Saturdaymorninghero 2 роки тому +85

    dude, you guys always do a great job! Can't wait for more fan testing videos!

  • @ledizzy2634
    @ledizzy2634 2 роки тому +17

    The section with Patrick was really really informative! As someone trying to pick this kind of stuff up, his explanation was absolutely brilliant! Thanks guys!

  • @Isamu27298
    @Isamu27298 2 роки тому +21

    Its refreshing to see such a well designed product. Thank you for the insight into the internals guys

  • @sonorous6200
    @sonorous6200 2 роки тому +1

    Probably my favorite tear-down video from you all, GN. Highlighting the daughter boards was great, going over the parts of the VRM with diagrams with great explanation...all terrific. Thanks!

  • @kippert1987
    @kippert1987 2 роки тому +35

    This is a really great breakdown! I really appreciate the run through of the various circuit board components too, that's really awesome the way Patrick explains it all! Thanks, GN team!

  • @hifam6451
    @hifam6451 2 роки тому +7

    Wow, this production is top notch. From the in-depth analysis, blue highlighting components...GN is without peer.

  • @EarlywineJC
    @EarlywineJC 2 роки тому +1

    I appreciate the detail incorporated in this video. Special thank you to Patrick!

  • @Mom19
    @Mom19 2 роки тому +2

    Really appreciate all the deep dive information and hard work you guys put into the review of the Steam Deck, but make sure you get some rest aswell

  • @senilestix
    @senilestix 2 роки тому +5

    This is a real positive review for anyone new to this channel.. Infact it's a solid indorsement!!

  • @chloedegurechaff1941
    @chloedegurechaff1941 2 роки тому +6

    I am thoroughly impressed with Valve here. This reminds me a lot of the Vita 1000. Easy and simple to take apart.
    I'll defiantly be looking forward to grabbing one of these. Keep it up Valve.

    • @Version135
      @Version135 2 роки тому

      This makes me want to get my psp out again

  • @evancappe
    @evancappe 2 роки тому

    I really love the depth of these pieces. Great work, GN. Thank you.

  • @ultranova9599
    @ultranova9599 2 роки тому +1

    I love how you plug the shop a lot. But all the stuff on there is actually so cool. ESPECIALLY those mats.

  • @mightylink65
    @mightylink65 2 роки тому +49

    7:30 "Remember to disconnect the battery as soon as possible!" _Uses screwdriver to show us how all the buttons click :3_

    • @GamersNexus
      @GamersNexus  2 роки тому +9

      I mean, they're buttons. It's not like we were bridging contacts with the screwdriver

  • @HAunderscoreVE
    @HAunderscoreVE 2 роки тому +4

    Okay i have to say the last scene of steve talking looks SO GOOD. the Depth of field, the lgihting, the scene, i love it.
    oh and the steam deck is aight, i guess.

  • @SlyNine
    @SlyNine 2 роки тому

    It's just crazy how much information you can get with spot on methodology. Great job.

  • @SuperMikeKaos
    @SuperMikeKaos 2 роки тому +1

    I absolutely loved the level of detail on the internals…. Seriously mad respect from an old school tech here…

  • @RedBull10812
    @RedBull10812 2 роки тому +5

    A software company ended up making some of the best HW devices, Valve Index and now this. While full out hardware oriented companies keep failing forever. I don't like gaming on consoles, joysticks or handheld devices but this one looks very promising!

  • @BaronVonBeef
    @BaronVonBeef 2 роки тому +3

    The amount of power in that small PCB is really quite impressive, It wasn't THAT long ago that we were getting less from a full on desktop experience

  • @zul448
    @zul448 2 роки тому

    Man. GN is such a gem. Long before I will get my hands on my steam deck, I can watch your video to see the most detailed strip down of the hardware possible. Love you guys. Keep up the good work!

  • @StripesOO7
    @StripesOO7 2 роки тому

    Really nice and impressive tear-down. Enjoyed every second for the commentary and just to be able to look at the internals

  • @Enders
    @Enders 2 роки тому +24

    Steve, I was glad to hear you take a stand on the battery situation at the end. The inability to easily replace batteries in most mobile devices in 2022 and before, has been a CLEAR and very HOSTILE move on the part of manufacturers and retailers in order to hijack the end user life of products.

    • @Chance57
      @Chance57 2 роки тому +1

      I guess fitting comparatively larger batteries was a happy accident thanks to this batter conspiracy.

  • @jonumand
    @jonumand 2 роки тому +3

    I love the extremely detailed videoes!

  • @quiCksilvieZzz
    @quiCksilvieZzz 2 роки тому

    Just woke up and having coffee, such a perfect timing for the upload. Cheers GN for your fast and comprehensive tear down!

  • @lw8882
    @lw8882 2 роки тому

    Love listening to Stone talk about electrical stuff.
    It's amazing to hear the expertise and knowledge coming from someone who's a good orator.

  • @TheDZHEX
    @TheDZHEX 2 роки тому +19

    5:50 kinda not happy that we didn't get to hear the cracking plastic sounds from pulling off the back after the screws and the video cuts to it already removed... the plastic snap things are really obnoxious as they often break, and the sound of them coming apart might actually indicate more about the build quality than one might expect. As well as the force required to get them apart.

    • @DxBlack
      @DxBlack 2 роки тому +2

      They only break if you're not using the correct tools to remove them.

    • @davisbradford7438
      @davisbradford7438 2 роки тому +2

      Sometimes you need to slide the panel instead of just pulling it off.

    • @armyofninjas9055
      @armyofninjas9055 2 роки тому

      I use guitar picks to pop in the tabs and stick a credit card in the gaps to keep it open.

  • @VincentGroenewold
    @VincentGroenewold 2 роки тому +22

    Seems like a really well repairable device, I really have to give huge credits to Valve here, I’d buy it just because of that almost.

  • @martinshiveral6604
    @martinshiveral6604 2 роки тому

    Great video Steve - thanks for the detail here! Getting excited for the release later this month.

  • @daspferd7810
    @daspferd7810 2 роки тому

    You're awesome, guys. Thank you so much for this review and showing all the technical stuff of things in depth. You're one of a kind 🤗

  • @ripplerxeon
    @ripplerxeon 2 роки тому +10

    As an electrical engineer I like how you guys are trying to explain it to normal viewers ... Great video ... Love the details ☺️

  • @jnyc96
    @jnyc96 2 роки тому +6

    Late night video release. Love the channel :*

  • @Gevorian
    @Gevorian 2 роки тому +1

    always love the depth of detail and analysis in your videos, keep up the good work guys

  • @Y0G0FU
    @Y0G0FU 2 роки тому

    This is some impressive build quality. Valve really suprised me here :D Also amazing content guys!

  • @smileysamh
    @smileysamh 2 роки тому +56

    I am guessing this might have to wait to the second NDA date later this month but can you guys do testing on replacing the SSD and whether it affects power or interferes with the WiFi. Also if you can solve the interference with say tin foil etc. I feel like that would be very important to know whether you need to get an external hd/SSD in order to expand the steam deck other than the SD card slot.

    • @TheQuinn50
      @TheQuinn50 2 роки тому

      This, I'm itching to try and fit a m.2 extender out of the back of it so I could use a full form factor m.2 nvme or even build a custom docking solution with a egpu

    • @smileysamh
      @smileysamh 2 роки тому +1

      @@TheQuinn50 Yeah unfortunately I am pretty sure valve has already said it doesn't support egpu's. 2230 ssd's are quite rare. If there isn't any examples of people upgrading internal steam deck ssd's and working I will prob just buy a small and thin dock and a small usbc ssd and just tape it to the back - theres plenty of room for both. I saw a reply of another comment where gamers nexus said that he won't be testing internal ssd's as there are too many variiables and ssd's

    • @AH-hm2mq
      @AH-hm2mq 2 роки тому +1

      @@TheQuinn50 egpu is impossible since the usbc port isn't thunderbolt

    • @TheQuinn50
      @TheQuinn50 2 роки тому +1

      @@AH-hm2mq You can run a egpu through the m.2 port where the SSD is when you get it. Then you could just boot off the sd card or usb

  • @haythemsnakos3056
    @haythemsnakos3056 2 роки тому +6

    GN is the GOAT of hardware reviews.
    This guy needs more recognition, hopefully he can reach 10M subs soon.

  • @UNVIRUSLETALE
    @UNVIRUSLETALE 2 роки тому +1

    Can't imagine how much time this video took, amazing job gn team on this piece, you guys deserve 10x the subs you have

  • @RussLudwig
    @RussLudwig 2 роки тому

    Love the depth of field shot during the conclusion

  • @thefunbuns1
    @thefunbuns1 2 роки тому +16

    Can't wait for this APU tech to find its way to laptops

  • @nathanieltoia2015
    @nathanieltoia2015 2 роки тому +3

    Looks like valve put in real effort for the steamdeck, good job valve.

  • @CanIHasThisName
    @CanIHasThisName 2 роки тому

    Will watch the whole vid when I have more time but dang, the set at the very end is awesome. Very atmospheric.

  • @darkmanure
    @darkmanure 2 роки тому

    Really liking some of the changes, especially the segment where GN teaches us about the components.

  • @cybervoid8442
    @cybervoid8442 2 роки тому +8

    It's funny people all over twitter are quoting the latency numbers you posted even though you said they don't mean much in this context 🤣

  • @dustojnikhummer
    @dustojnikhummer 2 роки тому +24

    I really hope you test replacement M.2 2230 SSDs, like Kioxia BG4. Valve's "concern" is wifi interference and power draw.

    • @MiraSmit
      @MiraSmit 2 роки тому

      Came here to ask for this.

    • @nebulous962
      @nebulous962 2 роки тому +3

      I hope someone makes a modified case for steam deck so you can install bigger m.2 ssds and removable battery.

    • @Cherijo78
      @Cherijo78 2 роки тому

      I really don't see much point in doing this. I'm sure there will be simple external addons that will be much simpler to use and will transfer data plenty fast. Early testing just off the SD card seems to indicate even that should be "good enough" for most games.

    • @MiraSmit
      @MiraSmit 2 роки тому

      @@Cherijo78 Some of us would like to know since it can be cheaper to bue the cheapest steam deck and then buy an M.2 2230 for fast and more storage that the official steam deck for instance.

  • @benhall7574
    @benhall7574 2 роки тому

    This is such an awesome and in depth video, thanks for making this y'all!

  • @GaveLJorgensson
    @GaveLJorgensson 2 роки тому

    Well done! Thanks, Stone for the tech talk!

  • @mRibbons
    @mRibbons 2 роки тому +10

    Why is your livestrong bracelet plugged into the tablecloth?

  • @Zanpaa
    @Zanpaa 2 роки тому +3

    It looks like most of the complexity is because of size and packaging reasons, and not obscure/bad design or trying to block users from servicing it. That's really good.
    The cynic in me tells me this looks very complex and if they do a next version, everything will be glued down for cost savings...

    • @wickersticks
      @wickersticks 2 роки тому

      I don't actually believe that gluing stuff down saves much money tbh.

    • @VitalVampyr
      @VitalVampyr 2 роки тому +3

      @@wickersticks Sure it does. To glue two things together you just need smear some glue and press them together. To screw them together you need to add screw holes, put screws in the holes, and turn the screws (making sure not to apply too much or too little torque). More steps and more precision needed = more cost.
      Of course if you want to account for the cost of disassembling and reassembling the product even once screws are probably cheaper.

  • @jessekimmel9148
    @jessekimmel9148 2 роки тому

    I am a fan of the dude running through the chips in detail. Very thorough. Good job 👍

  • @bigshacaca6932
    @bigshacaca6932 2 роки тому +2

    Man the level of depth is insane. Mad respect. I usually go LTT for the general Info looks like GN is my new must watch too.

  • @totalsubmition
    @totalsubmition 2 роки тому +12

    Sleep doesn't exist in the world of GN.

    • @GamersNexus
      @GamersNexus  2 роки тому +16

      Hey, I have a nice couch in the office now!

    • @Jonathan.Boring
      @Jonathan.Boring 2 роки тому +1

      @@GamersNexus LOL. Gonna assume y’all didn’t schedule this uploaded. Published it when you could probably.

  • @ShadowRune
    @ShadowRune 2 роки тому +4

    When valve actually decides to do something they usually do it well, the problem is actually getting through the internal problems they create for themselves to actually get a product from design to launch

  • @BigFootRunner
    @BigFootRunner 2 роки тому

    Editing keeps improving with every video. Really slick transitions to show the graphics on the computer screen.
    I've also noticed Stone seems to get more comfortable in front of the camera with every video. Keep it up!

  • @mfdsuk
    @mfdsuk 2 роки тому

    Love the set in the last bit of the video the big dark room in background looks so good.

  • @danieljones9937
    @danieljones9937 2 роки тому +4

    I'd love to buy one of these but the glued-in battery makes it a no-no for me. :(
    Hopefully they'll do something about that.

    • @supergeekjay
      @supergeekjay Рік тому

      That isn't really a deal breaker. If you need to replace the battery, simply discharge it to 25% so that the energy stored isn't too high, and then gently heat it with a heatgun, moving evenly over it, not focusing in one spot too long. A few seconds and the battery will lift out. Heck, it's easier to get apart than an iPhone, and I remember when they were easy, back in iPhone 2 days!

  • @Mastershake59982
    @Mastershake59982 2 роки тому +9

    I was going to pass on the steam deck. After this video I'm about to order one. Thanks to the entire GN staff. You guys are rock stars.

    • @romano5785
      @romano5785 2 роки тому

      I knew the Steam Deck was gonna be a hit when Linus got his hands on it for the first time.

  • @connor040606
    @connor040606 2 роки тому

    Man, this level of depth is why I love this channel!

  • @kojack57
    @kojack57 2 роки тому

    Seriously impressive work from the people who assembled this and the people who disassembled it.
    No where to hide these days. Thank Christ for YT and GN.

  • @CasualHerb
    @CasualHerb 2 роки тому +8

    Real shame about the battery, it will probably need to be replaced within 2 years of somewhat heavy use, if you wish to retain those 2-6h of game time.

    • @martindescoteaux9288
      @martindescoteaux9288 2 роки тому

      And do you know how much cost that batery? Tx

    • @pagatryx5451
      @pagatryx5451 2 роки тому

      I feel like that's to be expected without some large jump in cost. As long as it's fairly user friendly in buying and replacing the battery, I don't mind it.

    • @CasualHerb
      @CasualHerb 2 роки тому +1

      @@pagatryx5451 that's what's shameful about it, that it's not easily replaceable, but glued in.

    • @pagatryx5451
      @pagatryx5451 2 роки тому +2

      @@CasualHerb Could just be the preproduction units. Hopefully that gets changed. But yeah, not looking good.

    • @pagatryx5451
      @pagatryx5451 2 роки тому

      @@CasualHerb Could just be the preproduction units. Hopefully that gets changed. But yeah, not looking good.

  • @gonun69
    @gonun69 2 роки тому +4

    Looks like there's a lot of "wasted" space in the two ergonomic hand bump thingies. I wonder if they could have put some extra batteries or a swappable SSD in there. Would be interesting to see some 3rd party backplate and triggers that reduce those bumps to make the whole thing a lot thinner.

    • @VitalVampyr
      @VitalVampyr 2 роки тому +8

      That's pretty normal for controller handles. It's really not as much space as it might look, consider the structural reinforcement and clearance for the buttons and triggers.

    • @Chance57
      @Chance57 2 роки тому +2

      Making it less ergonomic, more flat like a switch, is a hard sell. Perhaps they didn't stuff the handles because it looks like they made a concerted effort to keep those sections of the deck the most cool to the touch.

  • @silkmonkey
    @silkmonkey 2 роки тому

    This is the kind of content that keeps my patreon money flowing - love the depth and explainers for what the tech specs actually mean. Between you guys and buildzoid I love how much tech I can learn.

  • @cinobro6393
    @cinobro6393 2 роки тому +2

    Absolutely love the super in depth analysis videos!

  • @Gil3344
    @Gil3344 2 роки тому +3

    For electronics engineering students, Patrick's bit was incredibly interesting!

  • @austindavis2103
    @austindavis2103 2 роки тому +7

    Go to bed GN

    • @Jonathan.Boring
      @Jonathan.Boring 2 роки тому +1

      Gn

    • @prla5400
      @prla5400 2 роки тому

      When Steve's friends say GN, they don't mean good night

  • @aelaan12
    @aelaan12 Рік тому

    Since I am not actually getting a Steam Deck I can appreciate the knowledge and show and tell of computing hardware. Thanks for putting this together.

  • @El.Duder-ino
    @El.Duder-ino 2 роки тому

    Excellent teardown as always on Gamers Nexus channel - thank you folks!

  • @ajtechtalks
    @ajtechtalks 2 роки тому +3

    austin evans nintendo fingerprint looking kinda sus

    • @robitherascal
      @robitherascal 2 роки тому +1

      Haha I thought I was the only one who noticed!

  • @supra107
    @supra107 2 роки тому +10

    Oh no, Steve opened up the Steam Deck by himself, now he's surely gonna die as Valve has stated! :D

  • @TomasPiliponis
    @TomasPiliponis 2 роки тому +2

    at 24:37 - it is so satisfying how GPU fan on Steve's t-shirt reflects directly on the SoC... :)

  • @danielpena-un8vl
    @danielpena-un8vl 2 роки тому

    Definitely build and designed with durability in mind. I'm in! got mine pre ordered.

  • @robitherascal
    @robitherascal 2 роки тому +3

    Um, Is it just me or does Austin Evan’s “finger print” look more like a…? Never mind.

  •  2 роки тому +6

    Valve being smart with chozing who gets to do hardware and software reviews.
    LTT doing games
    GN doing hardware

    • @SRC267
      @SRC267 2 роки тому +3

      Man said "chozing"

    • @GamersNexus
      @GamersNexus  2 роки тому +12

      That isn't how it worked at all. We had the same restrictions, which was "no showing the user interface." We did games as well -- it's in the first video.

    • @xzaz2
      @xzaz2 2 роки тому +3

      @@GamersNexus This feels like a review, LTT feels like a ad.

    • @prla5400
      @prla5400 2 роки тому +3

      @@xzaz2 every LTT vid
      Also I'm chozing this device when it's in my country (India)

    • @kippert1987
      @kippert1987 2 роки тому +1

      I think gn and ltt definitely have two different audience types. Ltt is somewhat more commercial in many senses but they have really great content. Gn has a much more scientific and data driven approach. I really enjoy both tbh and I'm glad that both exist.

  • @HecticGlenn
    @HecticGlenn 2 роки тому

    Great stuff, never seen the coasters before and wanted to find something I really wanted to support your work. Preordered the back order!

  • @strictlymacintosh7818
    @strictlymacintosh7818 2 роки тому

    I just happened on this review that was linked in an @PCworld article about first reactions. What a teardown video. Top of the game. Subscribed!

  • @Jonathan.Boring
    @Jonathan.Boring 2 роки тому +3

    I just reported 13 bot comments 💀. This is worse than tiktok.

    • @prla5400
      @prla5400 2 роки тому +1

      Yep

    • @GamersNexus
      @GamersNexus  2 роки тому +5

      It is so bad. Trying to keep up.

    • @Jonathan.Boring
      @Jonathan.Boring 2 роки тому +1

      @@GamersNexus also hello. First time watching any of your vids in a few months. Happy to be back 🥰

    • @MobileDecay
      @MobileDecay 2 роки тому +1

      I think I reported 5.

    • @TheRealFlott
      @TheRealFlott 2 роки тому +1

      I just reported at least 30! Damn it UA-cam.

  • @jamsea794
    @jamsea794 2 роки тому +16

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      @theresawagar4524 2 роки тому

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      @theresawagar4524 2 роки тому

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      @theresawagar4524 2 роки тому

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      @craigblack520 2 роки тому

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  • @bwjclego
    @bwjclego 2 роки тому

    I'm happy for all this in-depth Deck content, because after several years of watching GN, this is the first product you've reviewed that I actually plan on buying. (PC needs upgrades eventually, but not yet).

  • @gamamew
    @gamamew 2 роки тому +1

    Nice to see Patrick Stone explaining the electrical part 👍

  • @budthecyborg4575
    @budthecyborg4575 2 роки тому +6

    So now that Gabe got this mid life crisis "I wanna be a console manufacturer" thing out of his system...
    Can we have Half Life 3 now?

    • @Daschickenify
      @Daschickenify 2 роки тому +1

      Project borealis is working on half life 3. There hasn’t been a recent update though, so I’m not too confident in them.

  • @Frytech
    @Frytech 2 роки тому +3

    You know what looks kinda disappointing? Really hard access to a display, it seems like you need to disassemble everything in case you have a cracked screen and want to replace it. That’s looks like a big oversight. And I’d argue that displays are being cracked even more often than the battery degrades, or joysticks/fan breaks, so it’s kinda weird to see the display being so inaccessible.

  • @exar7000
    @exar7000 2 роки тому

    Thank you Mr. Stone, very informative! That was awesome!

  • @byron_00
    @byron_00 2 роки тому +2

    This is easily the best hardware tear down video I've ever watched.