Jordan Peterson Predicts The Riots
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- Dr. Jordan B. Peterson accurately predicts the 2020 riots related to George Floyd, way back at our 2017 event at UBC. All content posted to this channel is original.
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JBP addresses question at 1:30 ;)
Have you ever heard of Antifa extremists killing anyone in the US?
They haven't.
The reality:
"Right-wing extremists killed more people in 2018 than in any year since 1995, the year of Timothy McVeigh’s bomb attack on the Oklahoma City federal building.
www.adl.org/news/press-releases/right-wing-extremism-linked-to-every-2018-extremist-murder-in-the-us-adl-finds
"Right-Wing Extremists Killed 38 People in 2019, Far Surpassing All Other Murderous Extremists"
www.adl.org/news/press-releases/adl-report-right-wing-extremists-killed-38-people-in-2019-far-surpassing-all
@@jetstreamer374 ...facts?
@@Dan-ud8hz facts? From the ADL... LMFAO 😂😂 what's next you going to start quoting stats from the SPLC? They aren't biased at all lol..38 people🤔 that sounds like a Saturday afternoon in Chicago.
@@indaclouds7485 Thanks for immediately discrediting yourself, fascist bigot.
"Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past."
Jean-Paul Sartre
@@Dan-ud8hz Everyone is a right wing extremist.
‘Don’t aim to win, aim for peace’ - Now there is something more people need to hear
It sounds like advice caregivers give kids who get into fights. Am I missing something that makes JP's advice more profound?
He is right about this . Let me give you a prime example . The Boston tea party . The colonists had a grievance with British govt and instead of addressing that grievance they meet it with indifference and harsh reprisals . The backlash was a revolutionary war .
People are constantly taught to take what they can. You are a winner that takes from the losers. Don’t be a loser. There is no search for peace.
100 percent!
@@rutvin8763 It's profound only because people don't believe it. People want to win. That is at the root of most of the political debates these days. As JP has said many times, the things he says are nothing new just things that have been forgotten.
I am Iranian American woman, I live in NYC and I love this man. The other day I shared my experience of growing up in Iran and witnessing the tyranny that took over after an idealigical revolution and the horrors I've seen, to help give my liberal friends a perspective. The response I got? You don't know what it's like to be black in America, therefore you're still privillaged (less than a white man but still) so you should stfu and just listen..
Impaccable logic there! Smh. We need our brothers and sisters of African decent to wake up and not be a tool for the tyranny. I'm trying to follow what JP is saying here but it's so hard to watch what's happening and not wanna scream from the top of my lungs. God grant me patience and self restraint.
as an Iranian who still lives in Iran, I feel our lives do not matter at all irans regime killed plus thousand protesters last year and word sit in silence, I do care about police brutality in the US but I wished world cared about a thousand of people that Iran regime killed. i think in the end our hope is to Iranian outside of Iran who try to convince the world that they must do something about people of iran
But you are a voice of reason, an educated voice. Can’t say that for the likes of the African American (and their socialist brothers) mob!
As an Israeli Jew, I totally understand you. Wish more people would judge other human beings for what they are, not their race, skin color, gender or religion. I am afraid dark times are ahead, but I also hope peace will follow them.
@@shahin1339 I feel so sad for the people of Iran- having a very interesting conversation with an Iranian woman ( now American) who grew up in the 50s and remembers what Iran was like. Just know that many Americans hold you up in prayer.
@@shahin1339 I'm curious, how are things developing in Iran? Can educated people in Iran access UA-cam? I thought all social media (except for Instagram) is already banned? I truly hope the situation in your country improves. If not, I hope you can come to the U.S. The U.S. welcomes all freedom and democracy-loving people!
“The way you set the world straight is by constraining the malevolence in your own heart.”.
The problem is that most people see their malevolence in others (Shadow Projection) because they believe they are only "good". When we identify ourselves only with the good side in us, we repress our bad side in the unconscious. And everything in the unconscious tends to project out.
Such a powerful statement of TRUTH!
I've been wrestling for weeks with the similarities between the G. Floyd event/reaction and the movie "Do the right thing". The tragic failure was that both in the movie and real life, NOBODY "did the right thing". Same as Cain after talking with GOD. JP struck GOLD! 😎
It always reminds me of a 1982 comedy, where the main character (a convinced socialist) asks his tenant (a successful businessman from the West suspected of espionage):
"Could I kindly ask you for a favour? Please, help me not to murder you. You see, my entire life I've been humiliated and degraded by lesser intelligent and less important people. And all my life I've been on the brink of killing someone. Stalin killed thousands of you imperialist pigs, but he didn't kill enough of you. I wouldn't want to be the one, who does Stalin's work. I'm not that mad. But don't you be the one to atone for all the injustice common people had to suffer by imperialist hands. After the war, you left your castles and your slaves and went West to become even richer and wealthier. The war wasn't even over, and you were all back, with "earned" money, to build castles again and enslave people again. When is it enough?"
That's hard when your oppressor think otherwise. That births ideas like Marxism.
@trickmysqueese Being gentler on yourself helps you be gentler on others. When your gentler on others, sometimes you can help them be gentler on themselves. Being gentler on yourself tends to make a person suddenly less interested in ideologies (such as Marxism).
'Resentful people who want to change the world aren’t to be trusted."
The French revolution?
@@lukasmolcic5143 yes. They achieved their goal and then kept going. Many people were beheaded unnecessarily, they had little, if any, influence, on the original issue.
My point is that the resentfulness was justified by the inability of the system to change without violence, of course that a change realized in those means, will be bloody and have unjust colleteral damage, but its historically inevitable if the frustration and injustices of the existing system are not addressed from within it
Luka Smolcic I think the use of the phrase “not to be trusted” does leave room for resentful mobs to sometimes be in the right. Just, as a rule, don’t trust them because it’s such a low percentage thing. Be skeptical, basically. There’s a lot of people resentful for things that nobody is actually doing to them. Or who are resentful, despite all their privileges and opportunities they fail to notice.
That goes for both sides. Saying that assuming one side is worse is not helpful. It’s the thing that gets that loop started. That’s what Jordan says!
The Left-Right spectrum is so distorted it's not even funny anymore. History is being assassinated.
Because most people don't even know the difference, especially in America.
Our city statue of John Sutter (the founder of Sacramento) was taken down today deemed racist. No vote, no say, just history taken from our city.
It’s easily the most absurd thing I’ve seen so far in my life.
No wait, not really, the worse is noticing I’m having to lean heavily on one of those ‘sides’ because it at least hears me out still, and therefore something could be helped and done.
This is probably what happens before any terrorism organization or even war starts... eventually you notices everything is a bunch of lies, no one is agreeing to disagree anymore, people are overly aggressive, things are crumbling.. and you suddenly have no other choice but to fight in one group even if you’ve spent your whole life only studying and working hard, not harming anyone... to then risk it all duo to idiots. Though in most cases I‘m sure it has at least some logical reasons behind it.
carlos salemeh the spectrum changes depending on what you base it on
If you’re basing it on culture
Right is conservative
Left is liberal
I base it on authoritarian totalitarianism
The farther left the more totalitarian
The farther right the more libertarian
That’s only today tho, when conservatives had the power and ruled the culture they were the authoritarians, but now that the left’s culture is winning they are the authoritarian totalitarians
There never was a left-right spectrum. It is a mistake in perception.
He encourages his followers to keep a cool head and to forgive your opponents for their beliefs and to patiently hash out your quarrels with dialogue not violence. But there are still "Critics" who brazenly call him a violent white supremacist.
They feel threatened and afraid. They should be.
Politics isn't about truth, it's about influencing people. It tends to work cheaper when you don't mind lying a little bit.
Disagreement to them is violence. Their are the ultimate hatemongers.
I have found the more extremism on the left will not engage in conversation because it is part of the of the "system of oppression" created by whites to maintain power..that right,,no discourse, logic, reason or evidence is allowed because it does not respect "other ways of knowing"
I have to believe most will see thru this as we present FACTS
They call him that because they feel under threat, as they should.
Missing Peterson’s reasonable voice these days.
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He has been going through a lot these past months. There is an update on him from his daughter on his channel if you haven't seen it.
We desperately need him now !
@@oceanhome2023 To be honest I think he has done enough and can't do anymore at this point. We have a WEALTH of his knowledge. It's up to us now to impart that on others that haven't heard of him yet.
I think he was given a heads up of what was coming.
"You dont wanna make a low resolution homogeneous representation of them." Wise words, you can see he is trying to temper the stereotyping coming from the questioner. The left and Right need to understand his teachings.
I agree, but isn't that exactly what the left do to those who disagree with them? We are all reduced to low resolution "racists".
But... That's all he's done since this video started. That's what he's done to stay in fame ever since he got into it
Npc meme?
@@m.d.d4250 yes it is, but two wrongs don't make a right. We shouldn't stoop to their level.
Hell of a task when at least half of the mob in the street wouldn't even be able to parse the meaning of a phrase like 'low-resolution homogeneous representation'.
Gotta know your audience.
Student: "How do I vanquish my foe?"
Jordan Peterson, Teacher Extraordinaire: "Don't be victorious- be better."
It's in line with a quote from Solzhenitsyn, fittingly.
"Let the lie come into the world--let it even triumph. But not through me."
I keep posting on UA-cam telling people on The Right to keep to the high ground. I didn't like the cancel Netflix thing over that kids twerking movie. It was a terrible movie, but The Right doesn't need to be canceling the Left and giving oxygen to the idea that the behavior is OK.
The answer to ANTIFA beating people up is not the Proud Boys going out and beating them up.
Today, those who hate tyranny MUST be victorious or suffer the boot on their face forever.
@@TheToledoTrumpton On the flip side, you have: all it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing. I think the opposition needs to be sufficient in magnitude to suppress the threat and nothing more. Anything more only gives them fuel because as Saul Alinsky said: "Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog."
@@usmguy1234 I agree with you, doing nothing is bad, but extremist tactics are not the only alternative to doing nothing.
When I found Dr. Peterson I was 26 years old living with my parents. Now I'm a doctoral student studying immunobiology and virology. He was the trigger for my positive feedback loop. I want him back. I hope he recovers quickly.
That's awesome man.
Thanks for being a positive roll model...share your success story..
Bro, can I ask how lobg it took? Did it take courage?
Well done!
How old are you now?
There are people out there who hate the good for being good. Learn how to recognize them ;-)
He doesn't back their very controlled, calculated narrative. Their propaganda. Infact he openly challenges it, and risks revealing to the wider public exactly what's going on. Therefore they see him as a very real threat (he won't ever "bend the knee"), so being the extremists they are, they instead opt to try to delete him.
@@KotCR One day he's saying the Holodomor was the worst thing to happen in the 20th century. The next i hear he was having a 'breakdown'. Very telling.
@@leftylucy2263 Very telling of what? I can't even begin to think of what you could possibly be thinking of. Millions of people dying by starvation..... It's not like he said chocolate ice cream invented or something crazy. Peterson just had a podcast with his daughter explaining what's been going on. He was indeed in very harsh times, medically and emotionally for many months. Thank God he is finally feeling better. His main problems consisted of possibly losing his wife to cancer and then experiencing akathisia when stopping an antidepressive/anxiety medication. I can tell you akathisia is hell and I went through it myself for several months, however my situation was due to taking a drug and not from coming off one and thankfully my symptoms immediately cleared after stopping use of a prescription causing the side effect. Peterson suffered from this for months, meaning he wouldn't have been able to sit in place for more than a few minutes at a time, drive a car, watch a movie, sit down for a meal. He probably spent 10 hours a day pacing back and forth in his house or chain smoking cigarettes as was the case for me for 2-3 months straight. I couldn't even drive my car longer than 3-5 minutes without pulling off to the side of the road to pace back and forth for 10 minutes or so before attempting to drive again. It was utter hell.
As far as the weird attacks on him I see them as attacks on his character. Many people today are trying to feel good about themselves through virtue signaling, whether that's saying shit they think sounds good or they are trying to be something they aren't. In most circumstances it involves someone trying to display unwarranted sympathy towards ideas they don't understand or aren't mature enough to understand or appreciate fully. And so I think these types of people are envious of Jordan having a truly mature and completely developed personality and character, something that one only develops through a long amount of experience. Today we get so many opinions from so many inexperienced people that Jordan is a definitive threat to them. A fake it till you make it personality type is never going to win an argument against a man like this. He's clear, he's concise, and he's right. He can show emotion, yet he is not emotional.
“Don’t aim for winning, aim for peace” God Bless Jordan Peterson. He was the hero we needed, but we didn’t deserve him.
was ??
He's still afloat, after going through a tough time getting off some serious pills. Here's a link
ua-cam.com/video/HLWgVpmo1e0/v-deo.html
That a big claim that you are making. Why do you think that we do not deserve him. And who is this WE that you are talking about
Sounds like Jesus Christ.
Yes turn the other cheek as the left goes on a rampage, because appeasement is a proven answer to evil. Peace in our time.
Jordan: leaves society to fix own life.
World: falls apart.
The power of this man is understated, and in a good way. Also I know causation != Correlation, but it feels like he was spreading the word that the world need right now.
I really do hope he returns in good health and spirit.
Too bad more people didn't actually implement his advice. Tyranny is here, not because we are silent, but because only certain voices are allowed to speak, which essentially defaults to silence.
Do you think if Jordan was not absent right now, the current problems in the world wouldn't be occurring?
@@rutvin8763 nearly impossible to say
@Rutvin, correlation does not equal (!=) causation, however, I think more people would generally take a stance with someone who is not afraid to go against status quo; by calling out tyrrany without the care of being called some sort of 'cist or 'phobe. It's the ideology behind the actions that is the problem, not the people or race or gender.
You are quite weak if youreally believe this.
He is so right. It feels like we are losing our collective minds. We need to "constrain the malevolence in our own heart"
The "Collective" seems to be the problem
Keep the collective out of the mind
Thanks but I'm just trying to protect myself when I go to the grocery. I'm trying to figure out how the small business owners who were destroyed have malevolence in their hearts that would have prevented the destruction of what they've worked their lives for. How does that work?
We NEED to lose our collective minds.
Positive feedback loop with left and right here. He wasnt referring to black lives matter into his speech. That's for sure
I like how the guy came up with a kind of "the left is losing and we're winning" frame and JP did not validate him at all, he was like "if you're 'winning' you're probably making it worse."
Good catch! This one is not a lobster fight we can “win”. It’s one we have to reconcile.
@@QuidamByMoonlight we can reconcile if you are willing to dismantle every aspect of your civilization
@@HIMYMTR dont assume the left wants to dismantle every aspect of our civilization. thats only a small radical sect. I think its safe to assume most people on the left are reasonable.
@@Nik-wo7hk Exactly, thats what I appreciate most from the answer. Jordan Peterson didn't validate a us vs them mentality but told us that 95% of protesters and people from all ideologies are good people who we'll most likely get on with but with just different thoughts but are mostly the same. It teaches people to value individuality over groups
@@QuidamByMoonlight only if you think diversity means conformity, one side is not looking for reconciliation
Dr P is truly a gift. I love that he doesn't ever feel like he's giving "gotcha soundbites" all day and nothing else.
He genuinely considers his positions. It's so refreshing.
He seriously just said all that off the top of his head
Ranjit Sandhu Nope. He studied his whole adult life, and practiced teaching for decades.
@@granmabern5283 exactly ..that's what gave him the quickest and accurate reference or some level of solution. He has somewhat mastered the presence of mind.
@sifil311 as someone who spends a lot of time in his mind thinking about complex ideas and topics like Jordan Peterson does you start to see patterns in life. You start to see the bigger pictures and the nests the make up society. These ideas he's expressing are not likely novel ideas he has, but him verbalizing his internal concept of the world.
I'm not saying that he isn't thinking about the question he's being given but he's likely already formulates answers to a majority of questions people can ask him.
If you have been watching him long enough it's really interesting when he gives a novel response. He stops talking and he will just sit there and think about it for 30 seconds to a min and then he will very carefully and precisely give an answer to question.
Doh. He must of got that off the top of his head. Franz duke Ferdinand was heir to the Austro Hungarian empire. Hardly middling, and colonial empires were vying for power up to this point. Japan had even caught the empire bug.
The question wasn't that profound and neither thought provoking , people have been studying the leftists backlash for decades now , nothing new under the sun
When people say intelligence can't coexist with compassion, you show them this.
When has anyone ever said that
But this guy is neither intelligent nor compassionate
Compassion without intelligence is just pity.
Do people say that? I feel like a psychopath would say something like that
@@ManicMercurianAstrology Many people demonize intelligence too much these days. They say facts and logic are for the heartless.
And they're more likely to be sociopaths than psychopaths.
I just realised I've been going about things with my wife all wrong.
Dr. Peterson has that effect on people. This guy is a pill of truth.
@Trumble Research Getting married before God is great, getting married before man for a tax cut is a great way to get into a toxic relationship.
It's never too late to wake up. Congratulations and blessings to you both!
@Joseph Cavanagh It's not what you think it is.
I don't think anything is. He grounds people and that is needed now more than ever...things/life makes more sense when he shares his truths.
The outrage and victimhood that characterises the modern world is like a landscape of gunpowder, and all it takes is one match to raze it all to the ground.
"Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that." ~ Martin Luther King Jr. instagram.com/p/CBVxTelDluk/
Love so far hasn't been helping.
@@davecrupel2817 what love? You know as well as I do MLK is right.
A love for what, exactly? Indifference? A love for indifference is an oxymoron! YOU CANNOT SAY YOU LOVE ANYTHING, SHOULD YOU ALLOW EVERYTHING TO BE DESTROYED!
I am more than willing to offer mercy, but only so long as I am able to afford it. This is what I believe it means that Jesus has died for our sins: We are only able to do as much good as the baying mob allows us to. We are forgiven when we fall short, because they won't allow us to reach for peace, which can only be gained by a love of THE TRUTH.
@@davecrupel2817 Only a love of the truth can set one free. A love for everyone and everything is, in reality, a love of nothing and nobody. That's actually called 'indifference', not 'love'.
@@davecrupel2817 I've had some good peace-making conversations with individual people. it's just difficult to make the jump from the local level into the public.
Jordan is trying his best to say that the dude is equally able of becoming possessed by his ideas if he doesn't check his shit and then the guy misses the point
At 4:50? Yeah I didn't even understood how he got to that question, especially in that context.
The dude is basically awalking projection and an example of a hyper-polarised individual. Everything JP said went over his head.
@@schweizer93 Yeah, exactly there. And he said it so pathetically in a way that you KNOW he was initially thinking "Hell yeah time for someone to reaffirm what I already think and not be challenged to think critically about SHIT my duuudezz!!!" and then he's like :(
@@Ixnatifual He's completely clueless that just because Jordan describes the extremes of group-think on the left that naturally it would exist on the right as well. He's probably sat in circles with the same 5 dudes for years, having the same conversation over and over and never learning anything new because they forgot what perspective is.
It's very self-righteous to think the same static thoughts being bounced off the same like-minded people, for who knows how long, will lead to any kind of growth or valuable insight. It's just as cultish as the hyper-polarized portions of the left and people like this guy probably have never even tried to talk to anyone that strays just slightly from his pre-established and safe-spaced views. He's probably avoided being challenged ever since he obtained his own brand of 'woke' and as a result, lacks any self-awareness.
It wasn't even a question. It was just a monologue begging to be heard and affirmed.
Big Nietzsche Energy
Jokes aside, I really want to see Dr. Peterson back.
I think he is stuck in Russia
@@LinusFeynstein think he is in Florida now with his wife and daughter.
He wrote a column for the National Post two days ago that was published.
He was in Belgrade the other day.
Linus 6626 Feynstein check his Instagram
"The way that you set the world straight is by constraining the malevolence in your own heart."
He got a major issue wrong. The Trump voters want to restore the rule of law, it was the Obama voters that wanted to burn the system to the ground. And they kinda got what they wanted.
HARD WORKER
All Obama voters? Every single one? You're an unreasonable man.
@@thereisnosanctuary6184 LOL i so happen to have voted Obama then Trump. Actually, its just others malevolence that is released when they think only they can do good, seldom does that happen. I'm just sad we have no critical thinking anymore, just emotions and again emotions seldom bring about the thinking and change we hope for. The Trump experiment has failed in my view, but Biden ain't any better other than he can give a calming voice and seem to care. We should be stronger when we get through this COVID and racial tensions, I hope.
Deepak Chopra level of insight.
He is a brilliant man. When they started demonizing him the cancel culture people showed how stupid they are.
The rioters clearly didn't clear their rooms.
They were too busy burning down the rooms of others who cleaned them.
They don't even clean CHOP looks like a slums now.
You should be more concerned about the Reps and Dems robbing the future “public” purse of trillions to bailout the Banks, Wall St and giant corporations. USA is a socialism for the rich. Trump is in bed with the Russian oligarchy - wake up!
Precisely.
they were busy clearing target and other shops
I miss the world before Twitter
No kidding...what a brain drain
Yeah, I think twitter is the modern "innovation" that has upset the delicate balance of the world more than anything else in recent times.
Not that other social media hasn't contributed, it has, but none have been as destructive as twitter for various reasons.
@@KotCR I just had an idea: I think twitter is the modern "Tower of Babel" (not a christian anymore, but I couldn't help but see an anology). Even further, I think "the digital age" and the Artificial Intelligence matrix that it is so clumsily leading to is "upsetting the delicate balance of the world" as you say. I think the digital age will expedite the near extinction of homo sapiens (ironic qualifier: I am not smart enough to know if this is "good" or "bad", or somewhere in between, or maybe I am just completely out of touch). Opinion?
I hate that platform. I wont be getting on parlor either.
23 years old, never made an account or been on twitter. Had Facebook when it came out and I deleted it a couple years ago, along with instagram. Having no social media gives you a clarity.
“People will be willing to burn the world, if it means they will be the kings of the ashes.” -forgot who
great quote. Ya Im one of those.
@carlson mujem well intended they may be but the results were not very bright. Only through non-violence and pressure for change did results come.
It was Varys who said it in GoT
It's from Game of Thrones - Peter Baelish.
Similar to those who would sell out on genuine relationships (lie, cheat, & steal) in order to be the king of fools.
Goodbye Seattle, Atlanta, keep adding them here:
Minneapolis, Baltimore, NYC, Chicago, San Francisco, LA,...
I'm moving to Texas from NYC! And I used to be a liberal. God bless America, and the first and second amendments!
How would it be any different than if the Russians or Chinese marched into our cities and take over?
@@europaeuropa3673 it blows me away that you just said that.
🎵Living in America!🎶
"The way that you set the world straight is by constraining the malevolence in your own heart."
"You don't want to make an homogeneous low resolution representation of them." ...I'm not convinced anyone's really listening to him.
Sadly, I think Peterson is incredibly misrepresented even today. The more I look back at his lectures, the more I see some kind of method to all the current madness.
Many sensible people I know who are conservative have told me they have stopped following the news because it was too upsetting. Some people will not allow themselves to be radicalized.
It is otherwise, however, very difficult to not fall into the same trap that they have fallen into. Fanatical self-righteousness. When I heard people were gathered around a hospital blocking it off to shout they hope they police who were ambushed die and to tell the officers outside you're next, I very much wanted to be there with a paintball gun. But you have to not do that kind of thing, you vote, you petition your congressman, write articles, point to censorship, point to injustice against conservatism and conservatives. Engaging in battle leads to escalation.
And the left serves a purpose. They try to keep corporations in check. They try to keep the lowest from having nothing. Unfortunately, they have become quite corrupt and quite fanatically religious in their politics. This is pulling them from their purpose which endangers us. Something needs to be done about the far left's control of academia before it's too late. I hate censorship and thought police, so I am uncertain of the solution. I am fearful that we may be doomed to lose because we cannot stoop to their level without becoming actual fascists. I feel like a pacifist trying to defeat a militarist in war. How do you win a war of dialogue against people falsely using hate speech as a means to censor you and others on your side? Who control academia, the media, and social media? We can't even agree on what the facts are, or what the statistics actually are anymore.
The lowest resolution representation of this question I've ever come across was a video on TikTok that basically went like "men bad" - "no, women bad". And this is teens talking like this! Imagine growing up with this kind of societal antagonism being shoved down your throat every day by the media you consume.
@@johnbaker7322 Watch the video again. It's not about finding a way to win. It's about finding a way to make peace. It's easy to scream "YOU'RE WRONG!" at each other, it's harder to sit down and talk it out. But this is what needs to happen. If we can't do that then I fear we are about to go down a very dark road that is detrimental for all people involved. We need to find a way to make peace.
@Jeffrey Grimespremier lesson(s) of the old testament
"They're 95% like you." People need to listen to this.
Well, we're 98% just like apes and yet so different. Hell, we're 95% just like the fish or bacteria.
What I try to say that sometimes that few percent of difference is the most important and most distinctive bit.
I get it. Though I see it more top down than bottom up. I would say all humans are 100% evil by nature. What accounts for the 5% difference is the degree to which we learn to control that inner demon either through religion, socialization, education, etc... There is a big difference between a person who gets arrested at 16 for shoplifting and the one at 16 who kills numerous peers at their local high school. As above pointed out, that 5% difference can have a radical impact if left unchecked.
@@S3Mi87 But that's not what he meant Kamil.
I'm really not sure about that. So much of my being is about rationality, empiricism, logic, and the search for truth. None of this seems important to the more vocal and unreasonable people you see and hear from on the left these days. Or the right for that matter.
@@dp503 I know what he meant, do you understand what I meant?
I recently searched about Jordan Peterson on Twitter to see what people say about him and the amount of hate this man gets from feminists and teenagers and all sorts of people is disgusting. When you see intellectuals like Jordan Peterson get all this hate and discrimination you know that things will get ugly in the near future. I think we're heading to a dark age but I hope I'm wrong.
I have become more and more convinced that most social media posts are run by the 50 cent army.
So true. I hope this all blows over. I miss when life was boring and safe.
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Funny thing is, they don't actually hate Jordan Peterson. They hate a strawman of him created by sjws. I'd argue that if they actually met him and talked to him they would probably like him.
JBP gets hate , because conservatives who do not completely understand the things that he says, thinks he is anti left and on the side of the conservatives.
He is a critic that has been critical of mob behavior and irrationality on every side. He himself also can be wrong, and that is the beauty of behavior and discussion.
The conservatives holding him up as an antidote to everything left. Is as harmful as liberals holding trump as the reason the conservatives don't make sense.
Check out his daughter Mikhaila Peterson’s channel, she’s doing a podcast with him next week!!
Is her name the channel or does she have a different channel name?
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@ she just did an interview with Dave Rubin, and it sounds like he's still continuing to be better.
He has a Russian daughter?
Marco Bonechi what makes you say she’s Russian?
Nietzsche casually predicted this 2 centuries ago.
I thought that was over in 20th century. I thought humanity paid the price already. Boy was I wrong.
its not hard to predict at all, u just look at how new generations are growing clueless depressed no meaning at all. all they see is destruction because society is to blame in their view
it's not even a prediction, it's a rule that existed throughout all of human history. evolution takes place at a periodic timescale. What we should be concerned is what is the basis belief of this evolution, and where it's leading us toward. From what I can see so far it is going into a cliff.
Nietzsche had the French Revolution available as an exemplar and a case study.
Really, ‘the’ anarchy was predicted in the Bible 2000 years ago.
This is one the most sober and clearly articulated perspectives I've run across in our hyper-polarized media landscape. Thanks for sharing.
No, this is original free Jordan neutered and walking on eggshells and frightened.
I miss him, wish he was better and out in public again. Full of inspiration!
His daughter put a new video with him, it seems he’s better
@@Gromobran doing better, sounds like he still has a hard road ahead. However it sounds like he's actually recovering. The dementia comment in terms of side effects of benzodiazepine was pretty freaky. It would be tragic if Peterson developed dementia not long after making a comeback.
He is better but still in recovery.
3:23
George Floyd. Jesus Christ this is eerie how right he was.
That was what prompted us to clip this particular part. He reshared this entire lecture just yesterday intentionally to show how predictive it was. Highly recommend listening to the full lecture, but that particular point you mention kinda made my jaw drop!
@@FreeSpeechClub black man killed unjustly by cop AGIAN, protest and riot to demand CHANGE. Who could've predicted that
I mean couldn't anyone have predicted that? I'm sure people already knew it was coming and it had already happened
@@nivagpodolski The issue is police brutality, not systemic racism. The numbers show that unarmed deaths by cops on white people outnumber that of black people 19:9, and accounting for population, then crime rate, the figure actually shows a slight less chance of an unarmed black being killed than a white person.
But of course, as always, the left hijacks this tragedy and uses it to propagate their flawed 'Black Lives Matter' movement, which generalises issues within the black community to 'systemic racism' as opposed to personal responsibility, crime rates within black communities, households. This is a collectivist ideology which favours equality of outcome (equity) over equality opportunity (true equality). Equality is an admirable goal, Equity is destructive.
G wilson Yeah, everyone knew we were going to see a Ferguson repeat with Black Lives Matter making a comeback. But I don’t think anyone knew it would inflate the tension THIS much to where there’s non-stop rioting in most US cities. That’s the type of powder keg event that Peterson was describing and it just so happened to be birthed by the next “cop kills a black man” news story.
Now, social media acting as the catalyst- I think everyone could have predicted that.
Professor Jordan, above all, How are you and your family doing? Are you returning to the media anytime soon? I miss you and your teachings❤️
he cant hear u lol
Mikhaila said update is coming soon. He looks healthy on a recent picture in her Instagram.
"The way that you set the world straight is by constraining the malevolence in your own heart." Got it; the key takeaway.
And don't redirect it towards yourself.
@@JM-fo1te lol... true
Wise words from someone who has had to endure chronic “low resolution homogenous representations” of himself being circulated in the media and much of social media for years. Of course he sometimes violates this rule himself, but this is Peterson at his best.
How can anybody dislike this wise,noble man?
I’m unclear about the hate too, it’s usually “justified” by the fact that he doesn’t “understand” certain terms like socialism and postmodernism, but I think it’s more about his disagreement with those ideas
I know I dislike the fans that inflate his importance as if he was christ's second coming. Just because some braindead feminists have given empty critiques they expect every bit of criticism to come from that same source.
kevin rhea A man like him has his justification for disagreeing with those ideas. He has the ability to shift perspectives and give insight that many don’t even have the ability to find themselves. Socialism is a slippery slope that quickly shifts to Marxist movements, which is what we see today in the US. If anyone knows history on Marxism they will understand why JP disagrees with the ideologies.
Feministe :p
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"Set the world straight by controlling the malevolence in your own heart." Great quote.
"Hopefully calmer heads can prevail". - Jordan Peterson
that never happened in the history of mankind.
@@MrPrankmastergeneral I disagree, did we get into nuclear war during the multiple close calls?
I had to think about this one, for a while I was going WTF is a comma head? 😃
@@RexDeming123 in every close call instance, the cooler heads were the lower ranking officers in missile silos, never politicians.
@@MrPrankmastergeneral Exactly, but even though they were just lower-ranking officers they still kept cool heads, and that saved countless lives if not the world. A single man with a cool head may not make the difference every time, but the more people who try the higher the likelihood that peace will prevail
"It just takes one wrong person to do just one wrong thing.."
The sheer immensity of this line ....
hope no one takes the joker route
Stop living in fear of if. Its always when. Better to prepare. Nothing has ever been prevented. Except maybe the invasion of Japan.
@@thereisnosanctuary6184 Hope for the best. Prepare for the worst.
Oh he said that in 2017. And now look, after George Floyd death by 1 cop. The defund the police movement and now many cities are seeing spike in their crime rate up to 300% from this time last year. We went from 1 person to thousands doing bad things. We are a smart species but still infantile in our interactions, or is it that malevolence that Peterson always talks about...
someone by the name of Chauvin comes to mind...
When he said aim for peace I immediately thought “well this could apply with my girlfriend and our arguments” and then he went on to explain that, I guess we should look at our encounters with strangers and the same encounter just working on our human relationship.
It does. Good luck convincing an even slightly "progressive" thinking modern woman of that though.
@@KotCR Well, if it makes you feel any better, I'm a progressive male and I agree wholeheartedly with much of Jordan Peterson's opinions. The thing is that we typically only see the extremes of each political side in the media. I don't agree with radical left ideas any more than the typical right wing person agrees with radical right ideas, but there is constantly this unhelpful stereotype of us "the left has gone crazy" "the left wants to ..." and it happens both directions with left wing people holding the entire right accountable for extreme right wing ideas, I find this incredibly divisive and pointless.
@john wallace In my relationship we approach disagreements as problems that we need to solve, not so much either of us winning/losing/getting our own way. this has worked well for 14 years
He now has 36 rules for life (three books)...Jesus had two, the 2nd of which is "love your neighbour as you love yourself". If we all did that, we would NOT need 36 rules, or JP, or 'winning' an argument with your wife/GF or partner, we would NOT need to win at all. Striving - accumulation would cease, 'greed' would cease to exist and would end. Marketing would die (yay!), and consumption would almost end, almost. We would all be more submissive, tolerant, NOT selfish, but giving and kind because of our love for one another. BUT, some ONE has to start first. Be the first to forgive and give of themselves FIRST. Who is it going to be...YOU!?? Let's hope.
@@gbsailing9436 I agree that treating people as you want to be treated (Which is what I get from "love your neighbor as yourself) is an excellent general rule to live by, but didn't Jesus say to live by 6 commandments? As in-
You shall do no murder, You shall not commit adultery, You shall not steal, You shall not bear false witness, Honor your father and your mother: and, You shall love your neighbor as yourself. He did also mention giving all to charity multiple times.
Personally, I act in a way that, if everyone acted the same way, I would be happy to live in such a world, because I believe that my actions influence other people, doing good encourages more good, stealing someone's lunch at work makes them more likely to feel justified in stealing someone else's lunch. That's basically my approach to all this, and it's pretty simple- act how you want others to act, even when nobody is watching, because those actions still effecr people
"The way your set the world straight is by constraining the malevolence in your own heart."
Lao Tzu could have written that, exactly worded.
Reminds me of Buddhism too
God is good.
A moral decision or series of decisions to do good. Speak the truth, respect others, oppose evil, do that which is right. A divine, all powerful spirit of righteousness and judgment. How else can a human generate the power to overcome the evil that resides in one's own soul? Whatever face we put on that may be immaterial. Since God, so to speak is not me, or you or anyone. It may have been Jesus, who was made to be without sin. That might be a representative of This Power of "Good."
Without "This" whence comes the power?
*"The way that you set the world straight is by constraining the malevolence in your own heart."* - _Jordan Peterson_
Yes
people arent"average"by the stretch of your imagination.you will be suprised of what you're capable of,for better or worse
“Constrain the malevolence in your own heart.”
Awesome
Yeah, that in hope and pray the cities & states maintain law & order.
“Don’t aim to win. Aim for peace”
Or put another way "you can win the fight, but lose the war".
Martin Luther King tried for peace and they put a bullet in his head
Aimed for peace in my divorce, 3 yrs later we're able to parent our 2 sons with no ill will toward each other. Every time I find myself pissed off about paying alimony, I say "cost of a lesson learned, gotta be sharper. And this helps the kids directly". Cant imagine how bad it would've got if wed fought through lawyers in court.
You know it’s actually a kind way to tell the questioner off. I like Peterson, but his following is often extremely childish and short-sighted. Look at the way the questioner frames his question and tries to lure Peterson into his ideological thinking. He has an extreme hostile and arrogant view towards progressives, says there is a “red pill” movement of people that know the real true truths. By that he of course means HIS ideological truths. The whole red pill crap is the equivalent of progressive people that claim to be “woke”, think about that.
I’m not saying this as a leftist, bc I’m not that left. I do know my 14-year old cousin is a more sophisticated thinker than this questioner. Peterson is sympathetic towards him, but KNOWS he has so much to learn. So he says: don’t try to win, turn to yourself, learn and be better.
He is telling you to lie down and not resist what the left are planning.
Peterson is a communist shill.
Beware!
“If the wrong person does the wrong thing the consequences will be very grave” literally just explained George Floyd’s death and the spiral of stairs America just went down bc of it
83rdox look into The Foundations of Russia Geopolitics Taken from Wikipedia; the strategic dominance of the US would entail this - Russia should use its special services within the borders of the United States to fuel instability and separatism, for instance, provoke "Afro-American racists". Russia should "introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements - extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S. It would also make sense simultaneously to support isolationist tendencies in American politics".[9]
At 4:30 he mentions that most the people you assume are “extreme leftists” are actually not as extreme as you think but only hold their radical beliefs when in a mob of similar minded people. I think social media makes it hard to withdraw someone who is a bit lost and looking at their environment to decide on their political stance and unable to view things from an alternative perspective. When your friends, social group, societal status, online communities (twitter, Instagram, UA-cam recommendations, even TikTok) all cater and echo the exact same ideas, it makes it much harder to find where the balance is and causes people to fall deeper and deeper into one end of the political spectrum. And this happens on both sides, neither being better than the other...that was a lot to type out so if you read this please discuss my thought with me lol
Out of flux, flux. Good and valid point.
The left mentality
" try policy A"
"Policy A failed, shall we go back see where it failed and devise a policy B based on what we learn?"
" of course not! If policy A failed we clearly need MORE policy A"
Thomas Sowell.......kinda
Could also be applied, perhaps more accurately, to classical liberalism in the 1920s which resulted in ordoliberalism followed by neoliberalism, or even to capitalism.
Sounds a lot like communisme in both the sense of trying it and what communisme does within its borders.
Interesting argument; what evidence do you base it upon?
@@rutvin8763 not really my argument, it's Thomas Sowell. It's based on the welfare state
@@rutvin8763
Common sense, not learning from mistakes it's exactly what causes them
Peterson is a beacon in the night. Hope he gets better soon!!
What happened to him?
@@drz1093 dependence on benzodiazepine; he went to Europe(Russia?) for treatment.
@slimchester check out mikhaila Peterson's update this morn😁😁😁
@TSalesman He was in multiple clinics and hospitals in North America first but non helped, then he went to Russia and got a little bemit better but not entirely, then he went to Florida cause Russia is Russia and didn’t get better, then he went to Serbia where he is now and he is getting much better. Epic.
i totally get JP.. and amazed how he gets human psychology.... it's a shame his wisdom fall dud on deaf ears.
Its called deception of those who are blind.
He tried to warn us.
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Aim for peace but also make sure you have a gun.
It definitely wasn't the answer the young man was expecting. Peterson essentially told him he needs to love his enemy.
Because they need to be treated as part of ourselves ,As your kids . Showing them the right path.
And that he is no different, he too can be a part of the mob like they are.
"When my brothers try to draw a circle to exclude me, I shall draw a larger circle to include them. Where they speak out for the privileges of a puny group, I shall shout for the rights of all mankind." - Dr. Pauli Murray
“The way to set the world straight to constrain the malevolence in your own heart.” Daaaaang that’s good!👏👏👏👏
Not much use if your hordes of enemies know no such thing as restraining the malevolance in their hearts. I suppose you can feel morally superior as a communist mob tears you and your family apart.
@@michaeldavison3491 You have hordes of enemies? Has a communist mob ever attempted to tear your family apart?
It's good but it's so simple it's sad that it's news to people.
I miss Jordan Peterson
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@@duncanweller1 Instead of posting a bunch of links, how aboht making an actual argument to support your assertion?
@@Hannodb1961 Waste of time when so many others can say it better than I. I really agree with the good arguments I posted. If you watch them, you shall see.
Or do both. Doing both makes anyone's purported argument much stronger.
A low-resolution, homogeneous representation of political identity is all most people are willing to do.
Sad but true. Mediocrity is favoured. So many losers.
Just like the kid in the video Peterson was trying to warn
Not that he noticed any of it, he just wanted someone to acknowledge his warped view of “the evil commies”
"The way to set the world straight, is by constraining the malevolence in your own heart."
Unless somebody else is trying to kill you. Then react
I agree with both of you.
And defund Mr. G. Soro..the money behind Antifa and BLM.
I am upset to hear Jordan had a breakdown last year. He is a decent man and I hope he is better now.
Fleece Johnson He’s had issues due to his wife’s deteriorating health, his daughter made video updates.
He has emerged from the belly of the beast.
It wasn’t a breakdown - I believe it was medical related + exhaustion from the last year of touring while at the same time his wife had cancer
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The humility to acknowledge and have this type of response on a daily basis takes an incredible amount of self control and discipline. Thank you for the wise words Mr. Peterson
I am grateful Jordan was around to help many of us prepare for and understand these troubled times. I hope he finds the healing and peace he so very much deserves and perhaps, if we're really lucky, he'll be strong and well to help us once again when the chaos has passed.
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@@duncanweller1 really now? lol
He's my hero and I know I'm not alone.
@@Pewlander Really! Strongly recommend you don't get duped. I care more about you than Peterson does. Honest.
I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but you should familiarize yourself with actual great thinkers from the last one, then you'll probably also conclude that Peterson isn't really on that level, at all.
Post modernism wont talk. Its an ideology about power, blind unadulterated power.
@sarah Jolene 😂🤣
This is possibly the wisest thing I have heard yet about today's social strife.
Didn't jesus advocate centuries ago to "turn the other cheek?"
Orlando Allen, I so want to believe what you just said. And I respect your opinion and the thoughtful talk that Dr. Peterson gave, but I’m not sure that I fully agree. Hard leftism, I.e. Marxism / Communism / Nazism (yes, to me at the end of the day they are the same) / Antifa etc., will crush large swaths of people over generations if that fire gets out of control. History has yielded horrors beyond believe, we need to learn from it and not repeat the mistakes of others. Some times turning the other cheek can lead to the industrialized murder of innocent people by the millions before it is stopped, and what a price that will be to pay. Anyways, I hope you are correct and I’m wrong. Certainly if the vast majority of people followed the lead and divine teaching of Christ we’d be in a much better, safer, and happier place.
Eric Weinstein describes this as:
A “saturated environment” waiting for a “nucleating event.”
Whoever wins in 2020, 30% or more of America will disbelieve the result. There’s your nucleating event.
Everything politically important that happens in US is not by chance but by design. Control the media and you control the masses.
info addict
Wrong. Conspiracy whackjob.
An economic depression and people realizing both parties don't care about their welfare will be the “nucleating event.”
@@thereisnosanctuary6184 Yes sir! Idiot!
"Minor little country" - talking about the Austro-Hungarian Empire...
Bosnia was occupied by the Austro-Hungerian Empire.
at turn of the 20th century "empire" was a debatable description. Collectively they covered a huge amount of land, had a very large collective population, their aggregate had a booming manufacturing industry, em PHA sis on collectively. But different and rapidly widening forms of govt, one had adopted a constitutional parliamentary system and widened the restrictions of who was eligible to vote, and culturally had always been quite autonomous n distinct from one another. Its not a very good analogy but one could argue they were as much or more a cartel, or akin IN CONCEPT if not always in practice, to the EU, OPEC, NATO. Their origin was entirely unlike any previous legitimate empire. As much like divided Germany after WWII as a genuine empire. All that said my reaction was very similar to yours when he made that statement. But upon some reflection I think wording aside he was on point. It was after all a token symbolic monarchy for the most part, and Ferdy wasnt even the monarch, only the heir apparent. He was killed BY a citizen of their supposed empire, I mean theres a lot more context and assertions what his motives were, at whose behest he was acting. BUT at the enda the day, it was an internal "empire" power struggle and all that it took to start a war unlike the world had EVER known or coulda imagined until it was happening was the act of a single killing by one of its subjects so yeah Id say its a damn good analogy. That it became a "world" war when in reality it was a European one, and that it was even that, not simply unrest which an empire would have handled internally, was due to others seeing advantageous opportunity in it. Ferdy WAS the next in line, for a token position or not, and Sarajevo knew their actions would escalate aggressions and WANTED TO. Compare that to a repugnant thug cop, just a beat cop who killed , no insult meant, but a regular citizen. One who was brutally and unnecessarilly murdered, that he was a POS n blight on society in NO WAY mitigated the policeman's OR his ambivalent peers' actions/inactions. And yes that part was absolutely meant as an insult. Cept unlike Sarajevo, for fork's sake the state had arrested the cop and formally charged him w/ murder before opportunists had washed their shopping carts and oiled the wheels before taking to the streets to "peacefully protest" Do you contend that they became as violent as they did, the anarchy was as prolonged as it was (assuming its accurate to speak in past tense) and as many cities IMMEDIATELY complied w/ their absurd demands to defund police wasn't opportunism to serve partisan agendas? That Austria Hungary was coming apart at the seams prior to the assassination or prestigious vernacular doesn't really affect his point. The tension and animosity preconditions were such that a single person and refusal to apologize (yeah yeah, but basically that's really all that it was) were all it took for WWI to occur. A more just society wouldn't have that cop walking the streets packing heat or a badge. Neither would it have the man he killed walking its streets. That doesn't mean the riots were about either of them, not really, they were the match and coulda been any number of things
I miss Jordan and his wisdom.
He is not dead. He is on thinkspot
We all do Dylan, we all do. Hope he recovers fast.
@@JNM578 Like he just posted 10 hours ago a new excerpt of the book he is working on. why is this like an obituary?
his daughter just posted a podcast with him... 30 june.
Lorand-Edmond Iszlai Yeah I saw it...reminded me of Weekend at Bernie’s.
I just ordered this man's book for me and my wife, 12 rules of life. I haven't heard much on him since he fell ill. I hope he's doing better. He was such an intelligent and calm voice to listen to in any debate
Someone posted a video of Peterson at home the other day, in the back yard playing with a remote controlled car.
Enjoy the read. Remember he uses a lot of metaphors and archetypes which can sound strange without context. Also once you're done with that, try maps of meaning. That book will blow your mind twice as much, if you can digest it.
The son of Franz Ferdinand, Who was the heir to the Austro Hungarian Empire was assassinated in Serbia.
Yeah, that imprecision bugged me too. FF was a major member of royalty - and Europe is said to have been a powder keg at that point, so it was just a matter of when it would explode. This is a historical rectification - other than that his points are valid, of course.
N E He did pretty good, the historian in me came out. The Balkans are considered the powder keg, Serbia had just recently gotten their independence from the Ottoman Turks. So they weren’t going to just give the country away
He was assassinated in Sarajevo, Bosnia.
Franz Ferdinand was assassinated. And yes, he was crown prince of Austro Hungarian empire. Beside that, he was against war with Serbia.
@Shao Yu Mai Wang yeah the emperor said in private that he was glad Franz ferdinand would never take the throne due to the problems that could have arisen. The empire preferred Karl (Franz' nephew) over Franz
It's kind of sad to know that Jordan's opposition would never give him the respect he gives them
I don't think that's the case at all: and saying that goes against Peterson's whole point! "Jordan's Opposition" isn't one homogeneous group that always acts the same way - there are absolutely left wing thinkers willing to give the right wing respect . One of my favourite Jordan Peterson videos is his appearance with Stephen Fry in the Munk debate, where they treat each other with complete respect and humour. It's interactions like that that give me hope for the future of political discourse.
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Pointing fingers at "Jordan's opposition" is the exact opposite of Dr. Peterson's point. At 5:30 he even explicitly says "you don't wanna make a low-resolution homogenous representation of them" and yet you do exactly that by generalizing his opposition. We do not need any more polarization. Let's follow Dr. Peterson's advice and start cleaning or own rooms by constructively improving our own lives and the lives of our communities instead of taking part in some internet quarrels. There is much work to be done.
@@wilhelmcough Ha I saw that one. Jordan is a "mean ole white man"...
JP wouldn't validate your point.
Man these people take forever to ask a question.
It's because they want to use it as their big moment to speak. Understandable I suppose. They get to talk to a someone they admire.
@@matthewstephens6848 I think its partially that but mostly just because we are using Peterson as the direct comparison which is unfair. Peterson has been lecturing and teaching and articulating his thoughts for decades, for most people it takes a lot longer to find the words to express the thoughts you have
this is a message every person in the world needs to listen to. God bless this man.
Historical remarks: That "relatively minor aristocrat" was a prince in a "relatively minor" Austro-Hungarian empire (to be emperor in the future) , which was a major power of the late 19th early 20th century Europe. The war broke out, because taking over the Balkans would have given too much power to the empire and it was not favorable to the French and Brits... It wasn't that small.
Relative to what happened, yeah, small .. A guy die, and bam, you have the worst war the world had ever seen up to that point.
Austrian here!
Close, but not completely correct.
The Austro-Hungarian Empire was anything else in these days then a major European power. More of a factual second tier power. It was only "important" in regard of size of territory and (very diverse) population.
And while its true that the killing of its heir to the throne set things in motion, it was hardly the real cause. The causes of WW1 are a complex topic, and there exist lots of different opinions and theories. The First- and Second Moroccan Crisis fe are seen as forerunners to WW1.
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What books do you smoke? Read up on Serbia’s history first.
@@wolfgangkranek376 As someone who loves history (and who's mother is Austrian) I have to agree with you here. It really is funny though how with 100 years of distance everything does look small and insignificant.
@@victorquesada7530 Insignificant? Maybe...
On the other hand we live ourselves in a time of great changes and conflicts.
Identities get questioned again, and we have also seen a turn of a century again.
With distance of time some narratives about historic events get questioned. And there are still some classified documents in archives from WW 1.
But yes, if such things are important highly depends if one has an interest in history and politics.
Have a nice evening and kind regards from Vienna!
Christ said... Blessed are the peacemakers.
"Do not think that I came to send peace upon earth: I came not to send peace, but the sword."
it was cheesemakers
For they shall be called the sons of God
@@chelonianegghead274 Ah yes, taking the Bible out of context. Tell me, do you know what that verse means? It's about how when one becomes a Christian, people (including family) tend to become their enemies. Let's look at the WHOLE verse, yeah? "Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. *And a person’s enemies will be those of his own household* I mean, the verse is literally about how when one becomes a Christian, people tend to hate them.
Cheers.
"“If the world hates you, know that it has hated me before it hated you."
www.gotquestions.org/Jesus-sword.html
Especially the ones by Colt
Mark my words: "50 years from now everyone will talk about how 'the assasination of George Floyd' caused the 3rd world war"
*"Dont aim to win, aim at peace"*
I swear these are principles I live by everyday facing difficult people and it does improve my day
But always know at what point peace becomes too costly for you. Everyone has that price where peace is no longer an acceptable option.
Fortus Victus Yeah I can see why, keeping your dignity and self-respect is very important. But sometimes turning the other cheek is also very rewarding. I guess developing good judgement is advantageous. For instance, like you said, in order to know "when keeping peace becomes too costly for you", good judgement comes in handy so that you know when to maintain it and when to reserve it.
@@7resist7tyranny7 peace with the left is as easy as surrendering.
Apparently the crown prince of the Austria-Hungarian Empire is a minor aristocrat.
AidanWoW yep, maybe that fact regarding pre WW1 assassination needs to be revised and updated!
in a scope of world war? Yes, pretty minor i'd say
Vít Dřevikovský -Actually not very minor. He was next in line to the entire Austro-Hungarian empire, and the emperor was already old and ailing. In 1914 that made him a very big cheese. JP was perhaps wrong about his status but quite right that things escalated far more quickly than anyone expected.
I am laughing out loud!!
Yes, minor. An illuminati puppet from way back then. Awaken.
This guy always has something to say that is worth listening too! God Speed Jordan Peterson!
Part of me says we need to fight harder and to win, part of me understands Peterson's useful wisdom here.
@Psychonaut Hm, could you make an argument?
@Psychonaut The fact you and all these others are trying so desperately to discredit him and what he says tell me he is worth listening to. Because frankly even if there is any truth in what you say, it doesn't make these talks any less interesting or thoughtful.
@Psychonaut A wise man doesn't have to be infallible? He's still subjected to the throes of human emotion. He could do with taking a leaf out of your wise book, clearly
@Psychonaut His wife's illness doesn't impact his mental health at all? He just thought it's a good excuse to use benzos? Do you think about what you say before writing it?
When it comes to him choosing to use benzos, do you not think it was a difficult decision? "There is no decent place to stand
In a massacre." - Leonard Cohen.
Psychonaut so is your argument “Jordan Peterson got addicted to drugs therefore all of his ideas are no longer valid?”
Okay now I want to binge all his other videos to try to predict what the hell is going to happen in July 2020...
Trump will say something stupid on Twitter. Coronavirus will pass over more countries. Someone old and famous will die.
People like Ben Shapiro are yelling "Peterson" was right while ignoring their entire platform is "Winning" and "Destroying" people they disagree with. Peterson is literally talking to them as well but they refuse to see it.
and todays' new leaders are very clear. One is President of a Republic and constantly views and states it's "winning" or nothing. And the other side are losers.
Specifically explain how Shapiros platform is “winning” and “destroying” people they disagree with. Cite examples
One side actually engages in debate, the other side tears down building to avoid it. One side sticks to axiomatic facts, while the other insist on emotional propaganda. If the other side can’t articulate an argument, in fact goes out of their way to avoid debating to begin with, then their “destruction” is inevitable
@@mattyjva That's the problem he's saying, the whole idea that somebody is destroying someone else, or winning, implies two different sides, which is feeding the positive feedback loop that Peterson describes.
@@Echidna23Gaming The irony is that JP has been one of the main instigators in demonising the left and polarising the masses.
@@mattyjva Nice story, pity it has nothing to do with reality, the right are the ones who won't debate the left, starting with JP backing down debating Richard Wolff, and also the IDW refusing to debate anyone and just rant in their cosy safe space echo chamber.
The message is really as simple as it is timeless: start with yourself, start by taming your own heart. Peterson expresses it with beautiful simplicity and heartfeltedness. I also admire his honesty, you can see he speaks for himself and he's not trying to please any particular audience. That's admirable in this day and age.
@kkthxk 1.) This Video was Recorded a few Years ago!! He did not speak while Rioting was going on outside!!!
2.) You sound EXACTLY like the Looters and Thugs rioting outside..!!!
Where are you, JP ? We miss you so much.
He's got bigger problems right now
The man is sick, so hope he recovers. A beautiful soul.
Supposedly, while he was drug free due to his all meat life style, he was taking anxiety meds to deal with his wife being in advanced cancer... supposedly the best clinic for his issues is in RU... but defin not meth per his daughter's statement. All that asid, every one should read JP's first book to learn his is actually a lunatic, and then watch his UN content to learn he does not care about the west.
@@jay.d.8906 How much of a narcissist do you have to be to write something like that.
@@stopwritingthatreplyjohnat6638 Not one at all, but just a former fan of his who found out that he was obsfucating the pronouns issue (I entirely agree with his statement, but the Law in question was not exactly what he said it was) for what made him a controversial figure. There is a whole catalog of holes in his content, but dont make a speaking tour about speaking the truth, only to lie about everything. He needs help but he does not need/deserve the fan worship.
"The way you set the world straight is by restraining the malevolence in your own heart." Excellent.
And by maintaining law and order. That is the key.
Some of these activists are just like us more normal people. Young lawyers or a musician, but suddenly start throwing Molotov cocktails within a crowd and face lifetimes sentences.
Well yeah. You’re not a criminal until you commit a crime
There's a lawyer in NYC that is charged for intent of murder towards NYPD officers when she threw a molotov
I mean who decides what is normal. "Normal people" couple years ago happily watched public executions with their children.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes🤷🏼♂️
@Ajax Aidy and theyll be eaten by the revolution like Robespierre qnd Trotsky
“Turn to your own development.”
I can’t think of a more important message to be understood.
awesome
When he mentioned the 19 year old next door he was talking about my daughter :(
Not exactly "a relatively minor member of the aristocracy" was assassinated in Sarajevo - Archduke Franz Ferdinand was the heir presumptive to the Habsburg throne.
Agreed! He wasn't a little nobody in one minor little country...
First time I see Jordan putting his foot in his mouth big time. History is very neglected in Canadian schools.
And his wife was murdered too I think
also the Austria-Hungarian Empire land coverage in Europe was greater than the German Empire at the time of the Great War with a population around 60% of the United States, not exactly a tiny minor nation either.
you don't vote for kings!!!
Sounds reasonable. Until you realize that the other side wants to win at all cost. Then you face destruction.
What "other side" are you referring to?
The far left
Exactly.
"Don't aim to win. Aim at peace." Fine, but if people believe such radically different things about the most fundamental aspects of life, a simple detante won't work for long.
Aiming at peace doesnt necessarily mean to come to a truce. The point is that if you are aiming at peace, you are willing to gain a new perspective on your's and your contemporary's fundamental values or ideologies. Recognizing that your ideologies may be wrong is difficult no doubt especially when we live in a world where holding you ground is essential, but recognizing that you want the good for everyone and not just those who share your own values is the first step to progress into a better civilisation.
Then sometimes you have to just walkaway.
It will work when they give up the notion that total victory over their rivals is possible.
@@gregsmith1582 exactly! "turn the other cheek"
Aiming for peace doesn't mean submission by both sides. It's about finding the truth ,cause most of people aren't on the extreme .They are in the middle ,even if they identity with one side or another. We need to find "the" truth , instead of pushing of "your" truth.
I really miss Peterson, I hope his recovery is going well and we can hear his insights again. Seems like right now is a great time to hear from him
Dr. Peterson forgot Chamberlain and his appeasement of Hitler.
Jordan Peterson is right. It´s about mob mentality, or herd mentality. Could be left or right-extremists (or other extremists) listen to what he says.
Can you explain that to me? I don't get the point he's making.
Say you're advocating for freedom of speech and you don't win. What happens then? He clearly means to win that battle, and if we don't that's one step closer to the world going to shit.
I don't think your goal must always be to keep peace, because often other people have got no interest in keeping peace, so you're just subjecting yourself to their malevolent will.
Plot twist- They got Idea by jorden's speech
The questioner appears unawares that those he designated as “the left” are the ones doubling down and unwilling to have “intellectual” discussion, while he doesn’t criticize “the right” as an equal participant in that. JP deftly explains that it takes two to play out the escalating retaliation positive feedback loop. He does this without correcting the questioner, which I disagree with. I think he should have corrected the questioner’s biased view. But wholly agree with his recommendation to pursue peace and not victory. Additionally I’m glad that he leaves this crowd and the questioner with this: the very difficult choice to govern oneself, to practice restraint, and ultimately pursue individual personal victory to win against ones own malevolence. And not some battle against the malevolence perceived in others, too often brushed broadly as the radical left or the enemy.
I think it is a purposeful choice on Dr. Peterson's part to not correct. It's easier to influence people when you don't tell them they're wrong, because you get automatic push-back if you do. Here Peterson sows the seed for the idea in the listener in the hopes that the listener comes to the conclusion themselves, which they will very likely do.
@@IamMiaga exactly!
It is the left that controls our culture. The mainstream news outlets, Hollywood, school, college campuses, social media platforms, corporations...Name me any mainstream conservative values that are portrayed in a good light in today's world? Both sides? Are you kidding me? The left controls the dialogue, not the right. All we have is fox news and talk radio. So to say they are equal participants is just willful ignorance. This country is going downhill because liberals and conservatives who once occupied the same spaces and environments are no more. Social justice has driven the conservatives and reasonable centrists from the table of discourse and now the only places we can engage each other without fear of social reprisal are here in comments sections on videos like these. Jordan didn't correct that man because he didn't need to. The left has all the power so the extremism of the left is tolerated while all facets of the right are vilified. The left is the major instigator of all this resentment. They have brought us to this point. Conservatives are more willing to engage in a dialogue, but the leftists in power have no interest in dialogue. Only conformity. One only has to examine their tactics and the language employed.
Title: Jordan Peterson Predicts The Riots
JBP: We can't predict which action will precipitate that or even if that will happen.