Jimmy The Gent he literally said directly after that he wasn’t suggesting forcing couples who are bound to have trouble, to stay together! You wasted my time. Actually thought you were worth the debate. Your second comment speaks volumes!
I just ADOOOREEEE Skavlan! When i want comedy/entertainment i watch Graham Norton, when i want to learn what's in the head of a person i am interested in (Ester Perel, Adele, Jordan B.Peterson, Sofia Helig, Ricky Gervais, some people from European cultural/political scene) - i click Skånlan. He is an amazing listener, but even more the audience amazes me, so modest, nice people...
You don't know what you are seeing here. It is not a matter of letting him speak. It is that Peterson is far too cerebral for these people to react quickly, and they are a bit intimidated when encountering English speakers. It is important to note that this discussion goes WAY outside the box of allowed discourse in Scandinavia. They have never heard such arguments before. Notice at 8:00, Annie Lööf does not actually address the point being discussed, but simply slips back into a very safe cookie-cutter discussion about the kind of world she wants her children to live in with regard to equality. Any Swede in a group of 2 or more people would express that opinion exactly the same was as if they had a string in the backs of their necks to pull in order to talk automatically. Swedish discussion programmes on TV that feature only Swedes speaking Swedish are constant shouting matches. The topics of discussion tend to be banal and pedestrian anyway. This particular show is very much the exception.
As a foreign language learner, one of the hallmark of the genius of Peterson is his language. I mean when you listen to him speaking and listen to the people with him speaking, it feels like they're using different languages. His complexity of structure, precision, expressiveness, and accurate choice of expression are all fascinating.
You will see this type of language in Dickens or Austin. It's the precision, they say exactly what they mean, definitely helps with understanding and almost more Importantly preventing misunderstanding. Excellent interview.
This man saved me from suicide. I was literally about to jump off Niagara falls on a new years eve and was driving to get to Niagara from Toronto and was listening to him by accident on the way. I heard about him before. When I finally reached Niagara, the lighting and everything in the new years eve and seeing everyone so happy and joyful and what he said, I felt like I had another shot. I stopped at a Timmys, and felt extreme love and affection towards strangers in a way that they thought I was crazy. He literally breathed new life into me. I spent the entire night in Niagara on the lake, drove back the nex morning, everything felt different from that day onwards. It is unbelievable. Here I am! Not even the pandemic and lockdowns could make me feel down anymore.
We were all created for times such as this. Through the works of God he used Peterson to save your life. You are not hopeless, you are not meaningless. From what I read in your post, it seems that God has put his hands on your life. We should all be grateful for that. 😊
I was impressed by the questions that were asked. In American media, the interviewer never, ever, ever asks about the interviewee. The interviewers just argue, smirk and talk over them. Probably one of the best interviews I've seen in a while.
seriously! It's like they already made up their mind about him and his views and so when he comes on and has completely logical answers to their "gotcha" questions that aren't extremist or mysogenistic, it doesnt even matter! It's like they don't even hear him. They just hear what they thought he was going to say lol
Its not missunderstanding. Its trying to lead the person thats hearing this to the wrong conclusions. "So what you are saying is...." and peterson has great experience in not falling for that. Once you hear his answer you realise that the question is stupid/missleading and you recognise that....hopefully.
I don’t think they could unpack his ideas fast enough to keep up. I think he loses them at times and they revert back to “everyone should be equal because that’s fair”. He has mastered patience, no doubt.
@@justwondering1967 Really? To me it's just a blowhard kind of dog paddling through any and every question with the same answer, ..." That's not what I meant".
This was a beautiful interview because the agenda was to ask the man what he thought and why he thought those things. It's obvious that Jordan is light years ahead...and I think that's a large part why they stay out of the way to give way for his brilliance. I love this interview and will be coming back to watch over and over.
I think JP is one of the most emotionally and intellectually intelligent people alive on the planet today. I find so many don't actually listen to what he has to say. They hear a part of it, misconstrue it, and try and pick a fight at their own peril ;-)
I mean, this is probably more of a show where if they speak out of turn they have to leave. Also Jordans more out of whack discussions have been with the host who controls the conversation.
they had some humility. indoctrinated likely, but in the face of competence had the strength of character to entertain the possibility that they were wrong, or at least they could improve. this is NOT an example of a leftist. this is an example of a liberal, commendable work.
@@bluejeans5770 Yes! then "hate speech" and "violent speech" which is how the extremists justify protests and getting physically violent because you are committing "violence" with your speech
And a great quote I recently heard "It is very important not to offend people but it is equally important that we as a people not be so easily offended" - Unsure ; )
After she understood him, she sat down listening, learning and looking at him, with utmost admiration, well done sister, it's better to learn and change than remain a fool.
She does not seem to agree with him, but is respectful. I would agree that she understands him and that he isn't saying that women cannot do traditionally male roles or occupations, just that he believes its not a result of society but instead biology. Whether or not that is true is irrelevant really.
Depends on the purpose of the group. I have been the bearer of illuminating facts in a professional settings, and, because I was respected for past work, the facts were accepted, and eventually led (with a great deal of work by greatly skilled coworkers and managers who knew how to build a team) to winning a multi-billion dollar contract against very competent competition.
Maybe it also have somthing to do with the fact that many people want what they wrongly consider a "fair" world, where nobody schould be better then the next person, many people have a hard time grasping, that some are born with a higher IQ and some just higher and some are more beautiful and others seem`s to have all the luck or are born in to a family who made a lot of good choices in the past and get a advantages that way Etc. Etc. Etc. insted of playing the hand they where giving and get the most out of it, they whine about a unfair world. "There have always been and always will be those who are driven by hate and want to blame those who are happy, creative and productive for their misery." --Terry Goodkind.
@Skitzofrenix "Education is not merely neglected in many of our schools today, but is replaced to a great extent by ideological indoctrination."--Thomas Sowell. "Ours may become the first civilization destroyed, not by the power of our enemies, but by the ignorance of our teachers and the dangerous nonsense they are teaching our children. In an age of artificial intelligence, they are creating artificial stupidity." --Thomas Sowell.
Equality of opportunity is a myth as long as "Inheritance" is in play. Inheritance of both assets and liabilities. Ban inheritance and then we'll talk equality of opportunity.
@trollnerd It is a reasonable question, but you need to take context into account. There's a recurring pattern among every interviewer who asked him that question. It's not a coincidence.
I am his female viewer and I am baffled by this question every time. Of course his advice is primarily for men, so it will attract more men. But he's not excluding women and any woman can learn a heck of a lot from listening to him, especially when it comes to choosing a partner for life and family. I learned what to be aware of and what to seek. I actually WANT more men listening to him and taking his advice to heart.
i have never heard such utter nonsense in my life. He is a bully and a narcisist. And golf is silly , Graham is a silly name. I think you should shut up and listen more to your older and wiser brothers.
@@andreasaa2000 And that is one of the reasons why I love Scandinavian people and their culture. I met some of my best friends from there. I hope you never change and stay a good example for the world.
In my opinion idea of equal outcome it is a product of envy. The belief that one person having something that another does not is unfair. The fantasy that two people have the same job should be paid the same even if they perform at different levels. Now that I think about it, could it be about self worth? You being paid more than me suggests that you are worth more than I am. People on the left need constant validation, they need to feel of equal value as people.
I'm a bit new to this terminology. So is Peterson arguing that we should have "equality of opportunity" while the feminists want "equality of outcome"? Or am I getting them mixed up? Can someone please clarify
The reality behind that is work. That guy is relatively smart and worked as hell during decades. This is a great example. What he thinks, what is says, is backed up
I do not think they even understood the point of ( outcome ) or preferences, men and women are equal but they obviously have different preferences ( at least in certain areas of life ) , that is normal, why are they being skeptical about it?!
He does that to everyone that tries to denounce him and his message. They end up getting a free session from the best clinical psychologist in the world. #LongLiveDrP
@@Orson2u What do you mean? They attempted many times to compartmentalize his arguments for a "win" and misrepresent his arguments in order to get a "win". The consistent looks they give him during the interview are smirking smugness and doubt, just waiting for a logical slip to pounce on. You're out of your damn mind of you think this panel wasn't in most parts hostile towards his position.
@@krislynn5965 just because they were hostile doesn’t mean they weren’t getting a therapy session. They were subconsciously receiving therapy. Go watch again.
That's how you can know they aren't operating in good faith. None of this is ever really about making things better, always about implementing a belief in what they think is better. Ego and narcissism. Power. Nothing more.
@@SdotThompson I'll actually disagree on the bad faith aspect of your comment. As with all good idea you shouldn't just immediately take what makes sense in one aspect and then not carefully scrutinise it, let's not forget that these people have their own ideology and trying to rationalise both the pre existing and new idea, so of course they will try analyse what dr. JBP is saying. I believe that other than some pointed questions by the host, that this was an incredibly civilised and rational conversation compared to other talks.
To be honest, it was a better conversation because of it. I want to see how he handles these things so I can learn from it. Just agreeing wouldn't be fun.
@@SdotThompson What governs it all is the virallity of the content. They can't let him win easily because content matters, or else you could just put a text-to-speech voice on a blank screen: no one would share it.
Thank God that we have Jordan Peterson to speak to us in a way that resonates to our very soul. He speaks from the heart, and combines this with great moral principles. I find his speaking to be educational, inspiring and full of hope, that good will triumph evil, and give someone a meaning to their existence. May God continue to bless you Jordan. 🙏
Yeah it's fantastic to see how badly educated the others were. Their points and reactions were not even in the same ballpark. They did not understand much from Jordan. They think their opinion means as much as facts 🤣
I understand she wants to empower her daughter but saying that boys have its easy, to make a success on this planet is not fair, and what the science shows what happens when you try to force a square peg in a round hole... Maybe I'm wrong but that what understand.
Paranoix _ the majority of people with similarly-themed false beliefs continue to embrace them and live in denial since it brings them more comfort and value - sadly though this simultaneously continues the spread of misinformation and the damage it causes. Hopefully she’s able to acknowledge the truth and move forward comfortably with it
Christ, I just had to pause the video to say just this. That look confusion mixed with self-righteous indignation is just so pathetic. And she just keeps fucking repeating herself as if simply repeating what she feels to be true enough times, he'll eventually stop refuting her points and go 'oh, I'm sorry; you're right'. It's just disgusting.
So simple and so true. He's the only one that came into the conversation to have a conversation, the rest came to score points and profess their virtue.
@@sacryss I understand why you would presume that because on a surface level, it certainly seems that way. But in listening to his lectures on Genisis and his talks with Bret Weinstein and Sam Harris, he’s no religious nut. He isn’t a biblical literalist. He draws a lot of fundamental truths from religious texts without accrediting them with any scientific recognition. From an atheists perspective, there’s absolutely nothing wrong with that.
@@sacryss only certain fundamentals. I was raised Christian. Got away from church early. Never enjoyed it. However I am also morally based in certain Christian fundamentals. Not all of course.
@HandyMan101 well, that's narrow-minded statement. Woman is there to provide next generations,she grows a person inside her and for this reason I hate when men say "women love men conditionally". Can you raise and educate your kids , pay your flat bills, get food without money? Just with your unconditional manly love? Then me as a woman cannot, I need food, place to live etc and if I create a family with a man I want a man to be able to support me and our children! So I find your statement humiliating..
@HandyMan101 lmao, you have nothing to support your point so instead of replying to my questions you just threw in a general bullshit, haha, thanks for proving me and the whole order of the family and life right!:))
You could tell by the looks on their faces that they disagreed with Jordan very often, but always gave him all the time he needed to answer. None of the questions were framed in a negative way towards him. Bald guy got the help he needed to divorce his wife. Great interview!
The problem is people have been and are being brainwashed. Forcing "equality" on people isn't about equality, it's about disruption of natural harmony and keeping us bickering among ourselves about bs whilst letting the "elite" destroy us and our offspring.
"People are stronger than their misfortunes." "The lack of their best hurts everything!" "Can't get any better than that." Three perfect quotes........and he was barely even trying.
@@palmereldritch7777 There are plenty of those people, and many of the things they say are worth listening to, but I've never seen or heard him be interviewed by someone like that.
@@erichaynes4049 Interviewed or debated ? As an interviewer you hopefully give your interviewee the space to make his own statements. You just ask a question, and you can ask a tricky question, but you don't engage in criticism - cause hey if you're not gonna fight it, then you are having a debate, not an interview. Seeing more and more debates with Peterson, with people who do understand him and see where he's getting at ....and simply don't agree with his premises and the stuff he just assumes to be true. For example his analysis of Bible stories, going deeper and deeper, is for him a proof of Judeo Christian tradition being on a higher level than other religions. Uhmmm, Really? why ? Just because he can look deeper and deeper nd see more meaning? Hell, you can look at any work of art worth it's salt and find deeper and deeper meaning in infinite layers. You can look at the stars and find infinite meaning. (and people did and do- even Judeo Christians). so does that make the Bible a "special book above all others" ? Mweeeh, no, not from where i'm standing. And his analysis itself seems to be on somewhat shaky ground- projecting his own ideas into the book. (for the record i think the Bible was more or less designed that way - hence you have 100 and counting different varieties of bible interpretation and which one is the correct one? Jordan Peterson's ?). so is it the book, the stories as Peterson himself claims? Or the interpreter?. Personally i'd say it usually falls somewhere in between. There are a few scientists and artists who can communicate exactly what they want. but even then it is what people get out of it - or not. Butin the end that doesn't make the Bible a "special" book. just A book. (with some interminable boring passages between some good yarns. And a couple that make no sense whatsoever- you know the one)
@@XFR18 yup, and if he can't get his message across that well, maybe he has a problem in communicating. On the whole I'd say it's quite clear though and the more I listen to him the more holes appear in his narrative.
David O'Conner I struggle to keep to keep up with all the large words he uses and the amount of information he pumps out. Especially the lady, she went in for a fight and found she has someone who was helping her cause in a way.
He's just saying the most obvious, simple things in a concise way and everyone thinks it's mind-blowing. Like he says, this stuff isn't even contested amongst those who study the field.
They cannot grasp the concept that to admit vulnerability is courageous, while vulnerabilities within themselves are in no way virtuous or automatically 'brave'.
Admitting vulnerability is like saying: "I have a weak spot, right here, see? You can strike it if you want. I can handle that. It won't destroy me." Nothing's weak about it, as long as that is true. If you can survive when your vulnerability is exploited you can survive anything. Pretending there is no vulnerability is to be afraid that you can't, in fact, survive that.
@@MrRavellon Actually, what Dr. Peterson meant is that to admit vulnerability is to accept that there's something wrong with you and that you've gotta fix that. And to fix that, you often have to "go into the unknown". Pretending that there is nothing wrong with you is to avoid facing the facts/truth about yourself in order to avoid having to do anything about it, which means you can stay in your little comfort zone.
@@justinkim7202 no, that's weakness you're talking about. Weakness is a flaw. Vulnerability is not. Anything you care about deeply enough creates vulnerability in you. To "fix" those vulnerabilities you would have to stop caring. That's not a good thing.
I get so frustrated with this woman every time I see this interview. She's not listening at all. She just keeps saying, "so, what's wrong with equality then" and he's not saying there's anything wrong. He's saying equality leads to diversity of choice, meaning people may not choose the same paths. It is not hard to understand!
I will give her respect.. I mean, you should see some of the Americans interviewing women that want to talk about Gender equality with him, oh man.. so unnecessarily rude.. She listened more than most, though she may have doubted his ideals, you can see she was trying to understand in her eyes
Agreed. It seems to me that what she wants is for children to be raised gender neutral, that girls and boys can think alike ignoring DNA or whatever it is that makes the genders inherently different. She fails to comprehend that equal opportunity does not mean equal outcome. Even though girls have the opportunity to become fighter pilots they may not become fighter pilots by choice. So the outcome isn't an equal number of men vs women pilots.
What a pleasure to see educated and, more importantly, respectful adults going about their business. I’ve huge admiration for all 4. Jordan has them absolutely transfixed.
They just hear the labels that other biased individuals place on him to fit their own agendas, i.e. "Jewish shill" vs "nazi". It breaks my heart that people don't actually hear his message. So much good to get out of it for people of any gender or color. Be the best you can be, take on the responsibilities that frighten you and meet those challenges, and thereby create a meaningful life. So many people are looking for meaning these days. It's easy, it's within you.
Because they are biased. They are emotionally invested in their own world view and resent that the facts don't agree with what they already believe to be true. It can't be that they are wrong, so it must be him.
Being this person for my family when my father passed. Allowed me to have a sense of value in my own life. I often look back and criticize the way I conduct myself in situations.. Looking back now, I would not change anything. "Be the lighthouse during the unforeseen storm's"
Simpler alternative..............do not get married. Do not let her start moving her things in. Do not let yourself be guilted or otherwise coerced into taking the relationship any further then you are comfortable with. If at some point you start thinking about marriage, buy your house and anything of any real value that you dont want to loose at least a year before you get married. Do not let her move in till after you are married. If she doesnt like that idea and starts in with "but sweetheart, I want us to buy a house together" then she is not after your love. She is securing her retirement and pre-buying her boarding tickets on the cock carousel all at your expense. I'm not telling anyone what to do. Just offering a few helpful hints to avoid what so many of my friends went through. Oh, and above all, when it comes to lawyers, retain yours first and spare no expense. Good luck.
Without a shadow of doubt, when JP speaks about how his father spent time with him, despite his being a 'task-master', and especially when he recalls the feedback from people on the positive effect he has had on them, it touches his heart profoundly. It's like the recognition that his work on building individuals' self-esteem gives his life true significance. You can see that he is close to crying. He is both highly cognitively and emotionally intelligent, as well as being intellectually competent. Powerful gifts he has. Must also be exhausting and lonely at times. People think they'll have a discussion with him but his level of genius is quite unmatched. He just talks sense and has done his research to make him an expert with tremendous knowledge and outstanding communication skills. I really admire his heart and mind.
@@amirtsarfati6566 SCAMMER!!!! If you had a conscience I would say shame on you! But as you are sadly Godless in your life, I am going to suggest you to get on your knees, ask the True God, that you claim to work for, to forgive you and make yourself right with Him. You sad, sad, human being. I pity you but am also afraid for your soul.
This interviewer was much more respectful than so many others who had Dr. Peterson as a guest. As someone with 50% Swedish blood, I would like to think that kind of respect is genetic :-)
Richard Blackmore I also agree with you’re observation about the interviewer. Peterson made a great point about egalitarian societies and equality of outcome. He then asked the lady if that is something she can support instead of putting in his two cents.
I agree. As someone blessed with keen senses, that comes with the con of often being unable to resist sounds and sights out of my immediate focus. Therefore, needless to say, I struggle to hear any one thing if several sounds along the same baritone are taking place simultaneously. That being said, uncivil discourse with frequent interjections and rude attempts to over-talk/dominate dialogue where no single thought is ever completed are near impossible for me to follow. I find that extremely frustrating, especially when I’m interested in the intended exchange. I took particular notice to the silence and respect of the other two doing their best to understand him though they clearly didn’t agree and often took offense. Compliments to all participating parties for me 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Sick Old Misogynic Jordan Peterson kissing the Nazi Terrorbanus hard for 50 million HUF: "my message to Hungarians: Do not rebel against your Führer! What your prime minister is trying to do is to restore the metaphysical foundation of the Hungarian culturerace"
This is probably the best interview in the history of the world given the setting, the timing, the group dynamic, the duration, its the perfect balance, thank you to all involved
I don't think that their facial expressions are ones of not understanding; I think the expressions are basically that he doesn't know what he is talking about, and they just waiting to try and unravel what he is saying and throw it back in his face to try and discredit and undermine his expertise. Jordan is the expert: the 3 amigos are not.
@@jeffferris7844 it's both. I've had that look before. It's partially the look of attempting to process the concepts after having to translate them to your native language. It will give you a headache if you do it for too long
Jeff ferris Aside from Peterson virtually never having an opinion about anything he can’t back up with solid facts and evidence, I don’t think the participants so much disagreed with him as they had difficulty understanding a fairly sophisticated level of English, as well as difficulty expressing their thoughts in the same fashion about a complex topic. Maybe I’m wrong, but those facial expressions looked to me like inquisitive fascination with a sprinkle of confusion. Many people in the comment field is giving the people in the panel a hard time for being too sensitive, missing the point, etc. I don’t think that’s it at all. This is not the Trump/Biden presidential debate, it’s Sweden (Norwegian host), where people respectfully listen and ask questions to try to understand each other and maybe find common ground.
Why do people have such a hard time understanding the difference between equality of opportunity and equality of outcome? Also why are people so shocked to hear that men and women tend to make different choices and have different priorities in their lives? Men and women are different. It is not a difficult concept.
@@MattieK09 Sorry to bother you mate but are you saying that the same people that support multiculturalism and LGBT rights consider differences to be bad? I mean you're probably not saying that but in that case your comment is an oversimplification that doesn't give credit to the swedes when it's due.
@@henriklybeck579 Well that's not a accurate way to frame them. But, YES, those in the cult of intersectionality do not like any facts that are adverse to their narrative. Literally 1000s of YT vids you can watch.
@@MattieK09 I mistook you to be making a generalised statement about swedes, which you obviously weren't, so I did the same. I agree with you though so thanks for opening up your comment.
@sibeliandrift Honestly this is a huge difference between the nordic countries and the US, and is partly why it's hard to imagine a similar social welfare model existing in the US, at least with the differences in values as they stand at the moment.
I love how they actually are interested him as a person. They let him speak and calmly try to understand his opinions whether or not it matches theirs.
ryan milovich because they don’t have the intellectual capacity too have a realistic debate with Peterson.Its not a good strategy too listen if you not agree, furthermore if it is on camera. If you suggest that is good, a Dialogue from Peterson without that people would be much better
ryan milovich yes because Americans are taught to be confident no matter what. One guy showed the stats that they rate lower than average in education international ratings, but they are at the top when it comes to confidence.
@@johnsmilitantbelch That will change. The reason Scandinavian people/Canadian people are considered more polite is because they haven't been infected with multi-culturalism to the degree that America has. Once they get a more diverse nation and the politics center around their differences like America it will be the same.
@@reznovnata3889 ben shapiro is controlled opposition, he is glenn becks clone and is part of the never trump opposition. he lied about lewandowski and is nothing more than a shill
The Three Fs of female speech: Feel, Felt, and Feeling. "I just feel so...", "And it made me feel like...", "I'm feeling...", "I felt so..." Who needs Logic & Reason when you have feelings & emotions?
I so often come back here to listen to this conversation again. I am so impressed by how he manages to make his point so clear and almost undiputeable, how easy it seems for him to answer to these really diffucult questions and how he also can show himself as someone with empathy and good will for all the people out there. It's like listening to the best possible mentor/teacher that could ever exist. Thank you Mr Peterson, I hope you can go on and enlighten us for a long time to come.
He clearly became emotional when talking about the people who have never had an encouraging word. A man not afraid to show his emotions or be vulnerable in that moment. He is a fascinating man.
I dont think it's because he was fearless, I think it was because he simply couldn't help it; he actually, truly cares - thus he's uncontrollably moved to tears when empathising with their suffering.
Tune in for the Zizek - Peterson debate they are planning for April. I am hoping Peterson will be the pupil, like Harris was to Peterson in those debates (although he didn't know it)
Maybe but Americans (and more specifically those living in the north of the US) tend to more blunt/straight forward than people in the EU about everything so it may seem that way when they are really just as angry (if your talking about the crazy activists). There are radical and rude people for every opinion that exists.
American liberals like Sam Harris? You participate in the same identity politics that Peterson was criticizing yet are completely unaware. You should listen to his ideas more closely.
I don't think they understood what he was saying. The blonde said that women in her culture should be able to go into whatever job, right after Peterson said that was fine.
This was fantastic. It is so refreshing to finally see an interviewer allow Dr. Peterson the time to truly answer questions without attempting to jump down his throat or spin what he says. Props to your show.
@@SkavlanTV Not sure if you will get this response but thank you from Australia. A truly wonderful, intelligent and respectful show. All the best for the future to you and the crew! Many cheers
I would not consider it "listening". The lady especially (and perhaps this is down to the language, at least in part), just recited what she wanted to say on the issue before the show even began. It was like she did not actually hear a word Peterson said, but argued what she decided he would say before he spoke. Her first comment especially made that obvious. He spoke for 8 mins, then she "countered" by saying a more generic version of exactly what he had been saying, but clearly assumed she was opposing his thoughts. She literally began by saying equality of opportunity is important to her, as if in defense, despite the fact Peterson had just spent 3 mins explaining why no rational person would oppose equality of opportunity. To be fair, many people do the same thing even when they are interacting in their first language - so I do not fault her overtly. However, for whatever reason; I did not see any evidence she listened to a single thing.
I was depressed for almost 20 years, didn't achieve much and thanks to Peterson and others like him i'm now in a fully funded course for becoming a Network and System Administrator for Microsoft and Linux.
The other three people are very attentive listeners. Even if they disagree, they are listening and you can see genuine curiosity on their faces. That's what we need for civil discussions.
When the lady was talking about "women leading and men hugging and kissing" that just solidified to me that a lot of people have a fundamental misunderstanding of how men share and express affection. My dad hugs me and all that wonderful stuff, but he shows love very differently than my mother, but I, and my siblings, have always been able to absorb that love from him even though it was different from our mothers, and that's okay. Men and women show love differently, and if you add in the whole introvert and extrovert then that changes the dynamic even more, but that's okay and people need to realize that the way women show love isn't the only way to show love.
I actually love how these people do not interrupt him while not necessarily agree with him. This is what interviews and debates should look like. Well done Scandinavia! Definitely subscribed.
I think that is a wonderful statement and so clearly true. If more people would just take a little of there time and listen and comprehend what mr Peterson is saying this world would be so much better and informed. He’s really dedicating himself to make life better for everyone but these days people don’t like or except reality
Sorry, I don’t think this is Jordan Peterson. I think he is trying to be someone he is not, seems like he’s fighting with his ego all the time. Seems like he’s suffering, and has warped visions of life. That’s ok, but I don’t think he’s enlightened enough for these ‘lectures’. We have got past this outdated ideology.
@@DeaconStJohn-wi2uy that’s what I see from a psychoanalytic perspective. I’m not saying he’s a bad person, he comes across as a troubled person. His recent struggle with his health and addiction is well documented and I have no problem with that. However, to me it’s hard to believe this is the person he is when he’s at home. Sometimes I struggle to make any sense of what he’s saying. I watched one of his talks with the volume muted, I saw severe pain in his body language. Analysis of his body language and behaviour shows many tells. This leads me to think he may not be fit for these lectures.
I am so tired of women seeing us women as ” victims”, no! I am a mother of 4 boys! I like being a feminine intelligent woman!!! LOVE Dr. PETERSON! Thank you 🙏🏽
"I say what I believe to be true, and people find that provoking. That's not the same as me provoking people." - This truth can't be stated enough in 2020.
Absolutely. On top of that fact a lot of people don't understand the nuance and post inflammatory remarks with little understanding of their consequences. So what you end up with is idiots from all angles rubbishing each other with little respect or integrity. A bit of education and some adult lessons for everyone would be good.
That statement seemed inaccurate to me, but I didn't even go to a real college so what do I know. Although some definitions of "provoke" or "provoking" can include sub-definitions that cite a deliberate intent, the main definition just states that it causes it. Usually something like, "causing annoyance; irritating, inciting anger." So my understanding is that provocation can be either intentional or inadvertent. Perhaps he was just trying to say that he isn't purposefully trying to aggravate people, but I don't think that he can dismiss someone saying he is a provocative person just because he isn't setting out to do so.
This is definitely one of the better interviews with Jordan. It's pretty obvious the hosts have different position than Jordan but overall the conversation was respectful and fruitful. Good job!
@@MunchJinkies It's true. But in a limited timeframe, you don't want one person to just talk for an hour straight. But I think the format of this show is just different than your typical talkshow.
Excellent interview, loved the openness of it, letiting the guest talk freely without being attacked as has been seen in other shows. Congratulations for setting up a great stage and interesting guests.
I completely agree. I wish the interviewer would have been a little more critical of his other guests though. Like he asks Dr. Peterson to clarify his points into where his beliefs stem from. In my opinion, Annie Lööf should have received at least one question about the empirical basis of her belief. Or if she even listens to any proof that she might be wrong. Still, the style of conversation was very illuminating as it was
"you are provoking people!" "No, I am speaking what I think to be true, and people choose to be provoked." You mean people are responsible for their own actions?! WHAT?!
No, he is not provoking people To disagree with what he is saying is fine But it is you who are feeling provoked, because you disagree with what he is saying
So many people today base identity on their beliefs, based on feelings, instead of seeing the world through logic and facts. So, to disagree with their beliefs, most of the time based on feelings, is to personally attack them. This is why we can't have open debate. To dismantle that type of mindset in any way is to dismantle the person's entire self-identity.
And Remember these are the same people who claim to believe so strongly in science. Obvious they only use when convenient, ignore when they don't like. They're the true science deniers.
@Jim Browski the right are wildly anti intellectual, climate change, trans (studies are out), trickle down..always wrong about everything, systemic racism, fucking wearing masks and corona virus, election fraud. You have to be partially lobotomized to be on the right
@@RawMaterialENT Nothing here has anything to do with "The Right" or "The Left". Forcing people to be either with you or against you is a great way to push people away from you.
I am a lady, born and raised in Nigeria. From a young age I have had a love for good books, thoughtful speech and reasonable discussions. However, listening to this man without bias has not only improved my way of handling situations and different perspectives, but sticking to what is factual and understanding the rules of life in general. Feels like someone finally gets it in all the world's unnecessary chaos.
yes, me too, I found his ability to just talk about what is Factual so refreshing no unnecessary bias or opinions just examples after examples through experience and actual data.
He is right. I was raised to do what I wanted. But as a female my instinct and competence is helping people. I have been a pediatric nurse since 1992 and a nurse since graduating in 1990. I also was a volunteer firefighter and ambulance attendent. Those are both helping professions as well but "male dominated".
I was very impressed with all the people who took part in this discussion It was so different to many interviews or shows featuring Jordan Peterson which can wind up being unpleasantly combative. Those asking the questions seemed to genuinely want to find out what made him tick. And they did a pretty good job of that. The questions were insightful and fair. And the sorts of things a lot would want to know about Jordan Peterson. I’m assuming they had quite different perspectives than he had on a number of issues. But that didn’t motivate them to try to catch him out. They seemed to want to genuinely learn about him. I congratulate them all. There was a real gentleness and fairness shown by everyone. And we all learnt something. It’s the best interview I’ve seen of Jordan Peterson.
Before being mad at the panel, at least they are having a civilized discussion and not calling him a racist. That should count for something these days.
Indeed, also how well they converse given English being a second language (puts a lot of strain on focusing in a debate). But still, find annoying how many times I had to hear JP repeat himself in interviews due to the same misinterpretation of what people believe he stands for. Gender always get slipped in there for some reason.
Definitely not perfect, but this is the first interview I didn’t loathe the manner of the interviewer. The most civilized I’ve seen yet. The Hard Talk and the GQ and many others were so bad I could barely finish. If anyone knows of any decent interviews besides Joe Rogans where his views aren’t some kind of bullseye and are explored from a well informed point of view I’d love to know.
I watched a TED talk about this feminist who was making a documentary about mens rights activists, and she goes on to say how she wasnt actually listening to them but just waiting for them to say something offensive, ect. She realised that what was the piont if they didnt listen, people's veiws may differ, but that doesnt mean we cant LISTEN.
@@rbike3032 That was most interesting to watch to see her explain how she didn't understand what she had been doing. How it took her a long time to see herself and the other side and break free of her ideology. It had so much power of her.
Definitely my #1 favorite Jordan Peterson interview. He really got to flesh out his ideas. The interviewer letting Jordan speak without constantly interrupting him like American reporters do also helped a lot.
Yeah, good point about the interviewer. This counts for him However; He tried to trap Jordan Peterson many times. It was so obvious to me. So I'm sure that it was so obvious to Jordan
It was great because he did his homework on jordan's philosophy and even if he plans to trip him it doesn't matter because a terrible enemy is as good as a nice friend for growth
Bald Guy didn't want to be there, legs crossed and leaning as far away as possible. Blonde Gal was smart enough not to say too much, knew she'd be shown to be an ignorant lefty.
Smart to let him talk and listen like the other guests did. Their silence shows their intelligence. What an opportunity they had to sit there (in person) and drink from the firehose of brilliance and wisdom Jordan was spittin'. And what an opportunity we have to have this TED-Talk-like wisdom at our fingertips. Thanks and respect to Jordan! WOW!!!
Her: "But if I make my son play with Barbie dolls and wear pink and push my daughter into running for Prime Minister, won't that make the world a better place?"
Some people think that they can create any outcome simply by deciding on a goal and working to make it happen. Our children don't turn out a specific way just because we have a goal for them.
I agree. I could understand someone subscribing to different data and forming a different opinion but as he says, he is simply telling the truth as he sees it.
because he speaks truth to power....the culture today does not care about truth they care about irrational emotional behaviour and giving into those feelings to the detrement of the individual or society...it will create more grievances and more authoritarian behaviours...in extreme cases, persecutions!
Arrogance. Narcissism. Watch her face as the interview goes on. From about the 15 min mark every time the camera cuts to her, her smirk is growing, as she's retreating into what she believes and building and submitting to her own confirmation bias of "this pos". Now what I want to see is her watch this back, with a body language expert breaking it down to her. Doesn't even consider his points, which are backed by between 25 and 100 years of psychological study.
@@SamohtNox and often they are such miserable people that when they force people to also think the way they do, it is satisfying. Either the power over others or their own feeling of moral superiority drives them. No facts can tell them they shouldn't believe these things. The people in power either have ulterior motives or honestly feel they know what is best for us better than we know what is best for us.
Seen this twice before and it still made me tear up when he said, "Because I want the best for them...genuinely." We know you do, sir, and it's true that that's why we follow.
Some of the facial expressions on Fredrik's face as Jordan was making certain points in a very direct way were just "PURE GOLD"! He couldn't believe what he was hearing! Haha!
The panel seems confounded by an ideological need to oppose him -- but can't find fault in anything he says -- so they just end up sitting there slightly stunned with a confused smugness.
He speaks in terms of overall generalities and she responds with individual ancidotal evidence. Anyone else doing is quickly corrected but not a woman.
I like how calm and collected he is. A very eloquent speaker/debater. The lady seems to be trying to convey that she wants equal opportunity and results, but she falls flat because she cannot communicate the message.
Please keep in mind that English is not her first language, so she has to translate what he is saying. Don't get me wrong, she can speak and understand English very well, but it is more difficult.
@@tonyfriendly4409 I was going to say, that has nothing to do with the way she’s looking at him. Then I realized her facial expression could definitely be at fault of concentration as well, if that’s what you were trying to say.
peterson simply has found the perfects answers, you can't beat his word intellectuality, you would appear extremely dumb to counter him with primitive dishonest topics
This may very well be true, but those counters work for the audience that wants to hear them, regardless. "But Patriarchy" is an argument to feminists like "But God" is for the religious.
Jeannie She is conflicted. She admires him but admitting that could affect her preconceived notion of hating anybody that doesn't think like she does...
because she's not taking him and his words at face value, she's trying to find flaws in his point of view and his argument(s)...she's essentially trying to "debunk" him rather than understand him, a fundamental difference that radically changes the ultimate outcome of the interaction.
Three against one is significantly unfair, but at least he went easy on them.
Nah the host kept smiling cuz he know he spitting facts
Jordan generally takes great care to go easy on his detractors.
They had us in the first half, not gonna lie
Hahaha. Jordan be like Jackie Chan lone fighting kungfu-hooligans easy.
@@_91K_ They were easy pickins for sure.It's nice to have an easy day at the office from time to time.
This is not even a conversation. He literally just taught a class.
Everyone who disagrees with me below is a brain dead sheep & the world would be better off without them
@@thegodofyoutube266 its called thinking
youssef gold aly I’m better than you
Jimmy The Gent your opinion won you 2 likes! Way to go champ!
Jimmy The Gent he literally said directly after that he wasn’t suggesting forcing couples who are bound to have trouble, to stay together! You wasted my time. Actually thought you were worth the debate. Your second comment speaks volumes!
You have to respect the Scandinavians, they actually let him speak more than a few seconds.
Josh Deal All Talk Shows should be like this. Let everybody talk and listen...then answer. I think that’s so much more productive.
I just ADOOOREEEE Skavlan! When i want comedy/entertainment i watch Graham Norton, when i want to learn what's in the head of a person i am interested in (Ester Perel, Adele, Jordan B.Peterson, Sofia Helig, Ricky Gervais, some people from European cultural/political scene) - i click Skånlan. He is an amazing listener, but even more the audience amazes me, so modest, nice people...
@@judasiscariot8396 He's just an immature little fuckboy acting all edgy by having that account-name.
@@innominatum9906 you said, to a guy who called himself Judas Iscariot. lol
You don't know what you are seeing here. It is not a matter of letting him speak. It is that Peterson is far too cerebral for these people to react quickly, and they are a bit intimidated when encountering English speakers. It is important to note that this discussion goes WAY outside the box of allowed discourse in Scandinavia. They have never heard such arguments before. Notice at 8:00, Annie Lööf does not actually address the point being discussed, but simply slips back into a very safe cookie-cutter discussion about the kind of world she wants her children to live in with regard to equality. Any Swede in a group of 2 or more people would express that opinion exactly the same was as if they had a string in the backs of their necks to pull in order to talk automatically.
Swedish discussion programmes on TV that feature only Swedes speaking Swedish are constant shouting matches. The topics of discussion tend to be banal and pedestrian anyway. This particular show is very much the exception.
As a foreign language learner, one of the hallmark of the genius of Peterson is his language. I mean when you listen to him speaking and listen to the people with him speaking, it feels like they're using different languages. His complexity of structure, precision, expressiveness, and accurate choice of expression are all fascinating.
I admire his command of the English language, and the ability to find the words be uses to express himself in an instant.
He is very careful how he speaks❤
I admire his patience and kindness he showed, to his interviewers here who at times had some struggles articulating what they were thinking.
Yea in public speaking grammar word choice and tone and meter….all just about perfect
You will see this type of language in Dickens or Austin. It's the precision, they say exactly what they mean, definitely helps with understanding and almost more Importantly preventing misunderstanding.
Excellent interview.
This man saved me from suicide. I was literally about to jump off Niagara falls on a new years eve and was driving to get to Niagara from Toronto and was listening to him by accident on the way. I heard about him before. When I finally reached Niagara, the lighting and everything in the new years eve and seeing everyone so happy and joyful and what he said, I felt like I had another shot. I stopped at a Timmys, and felt extreme love and affection towards strangers in a way that they thought I was crazy. He literally breathed new life into me. I spent the entire night in Niagara on the lake, drove back the nex morning, everything felt different from that day onwards. It is unbelievable. Here I am! Not even the pandemic and lockdowns could make me feel down anymore.
THIS is what I like to see on the internet
We were all created for times such as this. Through the works of God he used Peterson to save your life. You are not hopeless, you are not meaningless. From what I read in your post, it seems that God has put his hands on your life. We should all be grateful for that. 😊
That’s amazing. What a beautiful story!
What a blessing. Your life has meaning. Not just to yourself, but to humanity. Be the best you possible and bless someone else.
All of this and these comments. We need more of this.
I was impressed by the questions that were asked. In American media, the interviewer never, ever, ever asks about the interviewee. The interviewers just argue, smirk and talk over them. Probably one of the best interviews I've seen in a while.
watch JP and a british legend Russell Brand conversations, they are really good
Yes!
The Questions Were Amazing.
Well that's American Televsision for you, since your best Interviewers are either Dead or in Prison.
YES
@@joethomas8640 british legend ?
Peterson's patience with people CONSTANTLY misunderstanding him, even when sitting in front of him, is simply unmatched
seriously! It's like they already made up their mind about him and his views and so when he comes on and has completely logical answers to their "gotcha" questions that aren't extremist or mysogenistic, it doesnt even matter! It's like they don't even hear him. They just hear what they thought he was going to say lol
Its not missunderstanding. Its trying to lead the person thats hearing this to the wrong conclusions. "So what you are saying is...." and peterson has great experience in not falling for that. Once you hear his answer you realise that the question is stupid/missleading and you recognise that....hopefully.
I don’t think they could unpack his ideas fast enough to keep up. I think he loses them at times and they revert back to “everyone should be equal because that’s fair”. He has mastered patience, no doubt.
@@justwondering1967 Really? To me it's just a blowhard kind of dog paddling through any and every question with the same answer, ..." That's not what I meant".
I thought about this I think its because of the way he talks. He talks like a robot.
This was a beautiful interview because the agenda was to ask the man what he thought and why he thought those things. It's obvious that Jordan is light years ahead...and I think that's a large part why they stay out of the way to give way for his brilliance. I love this interview and will be coming back to watch over and over.
Yeah I wish we had a show like this in the US
I think JP is one of the most emotionally and intellectually intelligent people alive on the planet today. I find so many don't actually listen to what he has to say. They hear a part of it, misconstrue it, and try and pick a fight at their own peril ;-)
@@deej3209learning how to listen and actually hear ...are not easy or natural for many
I love that even though they all disagree with him, they're all letting him respond fully. This is what I like to watch.
I mean, this is probably more of a show where if they speak out of turn they have to leave. Also Jordans more out of whack discussions have been with the host who controls the conversation.
I agree. But it's also because they are incapable to interject, and seemingly having a hard time digesting the facts Jordan brought on them.
they had some humility. indoctrinated likely, but in the face of competence had the strength of character to entertain the possibility that they were wrong, or at least they could improve. this is NOT an example of a leftist. this is an example of a liberal, commendable work.
Well, i agree, they let him talk. What else could they do? They at least understood that they had nothing to say at the level of Peterson.
@@orangswiss8946 there's people like cethey newman who just spits bullshit eventhough she knows none
He doesnt provoke me, he makes me think clearer.
"Provoking" is how some people can barely conceptualize what are actually just challenging ideas.
@@FabianJacquin After "provoke" comes "offensive" then micro aggression...
@@bluejeans5770 Yes! then "hate speech" and "violent speech" which is how the extremists justify protests and getting physically violent because you are committing "violence" with your speech
He's a thought provocateur.
Same
Jordan Peterson isn't provocative, people are just easily offended nowadays.
to be provoked is more of a response.
As he said in order to think you have to be willing to be offensive
People are bitches now days
In a world where people watch TikTok, each clip only lasts for seconds, more and more adults are acting like babies.
And a great quote I recently heard "It is very important not to offend people but it is equally important that we as a people not be so easily offended" - Unsure ; )
After she understood him, she sat down listening, learning and looking at him, with utmost admiration, well done sister, it's better to learn and change than remain a fool.
She does not seem to agree with him, but is respectful. I would agree that she understands him and that he isn't saying that women cannot do traditionally male roles or occupations, just that he believes its not a result of society but instead biology. Whether or not that is true is irrelevant really.
exactly, I didn't see it coming. I was astounded at her composure towards the end of the video
Exemple of debatting, everyone is a winner in the end. If we only could listen to each others like that.
@@dumbiriezike5598 she's one of the more compassionate women
good woman knows her place
"The most hated person in the room is the one who speaks the truth"
No, not at all.
@@citizen6458 Yes it is lol.
@@citizen6458 yes it is.
Depends on the purpose of the group. I have been the bearer of illuminating facts in a professional settings, and, because I was respected for past work, the facts were accepted, and eventually led (with a great deal of work by greatly skilled coworkers and managers who knew how to build a team) to winning a multi-billion dollar contract against very competent competition.
@@DonMeaker Wow dude thats crazy
It's genuinely scary how many people can't grasp the difference between equality of opportunity and equality of outcome
mate, spot on. I was trying to come up with a better word than scary, but I couldn't!
Maybe it also have somthing to do with the fact that many people want what they wrongly consider a "fair" world, where nobody schould be better then the next person, many people have a hard time grasping, that some are born with a higher IQ and some just higher and some are more beautiful and others seem`s to have all the luck or are born in to a family who made a lot of good choices in the past and get a advantages that way Etc. Etc. Etc. insted of playing the hand they where giving and get the most out of it, they whine about a unfair world.
"There have always been and always will be those who are driven by hate and want to blame those who are happy, creative and productive for their misery." --Terry Goodkind.
one of the biggest factors in the destruction of the west
@Skitzofrenix "Education is not merely neglected in many of our schools today, but is replaced to a great extent by ideological indoctrination."--Thomas Sowell.
"Ours may become the first civilization destroyed, not by the power of our enemies, but by the ignorance of our teachers and the dangerous nonsense they are teaching our children. In an age of artificial intelligence, they are creating artificial stupidity." --Thomas Sowell.
Equality of opportunity is a myth as long as "Inheritance" is in play. Inheritance of both assets and liabilities. Ban inheritance and then we'll talk equality of opportunity.
They always ask "why is your audience primarily male" early on like they are gonna catch him being misogynist or something. Every damn time
I've noticed the same thing. They always ask it with such suspicion, like there's something wrong with that. So fucking annoying.
Yup so annoying
@trollnerd It is a reasonable question, but you need to take context into account. There's a recurring pattern among every interviewer who asked him that question. It's not a coincidence.
I am his female viewer and I am baffled by this question every time. Of course his advice is primarily for men, so it will attract more men. But he's not excluding women and any woman can learn a heck of a lot from listening to him, especially when it comes to choosing a partner for life and family. I learned what to be aware of and what to seek. I actually WANT more men listening to him and taking his advice to heart.
Violka1987 say what? His advice is primarily for men? How do you figure that? See, that's a perfect example. You've got it all wrong.
A skillful interview because he actually listened and let his guest speak which is, after all why he's there.👏👏👏👏
i have never heard such utter nonsense in my life. He is a bully and a narcisist. And golf is silly , Graham is a silly name. I think you should shut up and listen more to your older and wiser brothers.
I love how there is no interrupting. Why can’t anyone else at least do this
Many Scandinavians I have met have shown this kind of politeness. I think it is a cultural thing.
@@buellterrier3596 It is a cultural thing. We learn it, at least I did, from a young age not to interrupt, else it turns into chaos.
@@andreasaa2000 And that is one of the reasons why I love Scandinavian people and their culture. I met some of my best friends from there. I hope you never change and stay a good example for the world.
I agree, Scandanavian people are extremely polite.
watch any Indian Debate and you will lose your mind. no kidding, just try
It amazes me how many of these interviewers just do not understand the difference between 'equality of opportunity' and 'equality of outcome'.
this is basically the entire problem
In my opinion idea of equal outcome it is a product of envy. The belief that one person having something that another does not is unfair. The fantasy that two people have the same job should be paid the same even if they perform at different levels. Now that I think about it, could it be about self worth? You being paid more than me suggests that you are worth more than I am. People on the left need constant validation, they need to feel of equal value as people.
@@doomnotron there are plenty of examples of this disconnect even when there is no language barrier.
Virtue signaling is not logical.
I'm a bit new to this terminology. So is Peterson arguing that we should have "equality of opportunity" while the feminists want "equality of outcome"? Or am I getting them mixed up? Can someone please clarify
The most admirable thing about Jordan is that he knows how to fully and completely answer these vague, broad questions
@Michael Halligan I would agree lol
Very true.. even the questioner hasn't thought about their question in the depth that Dr P answers it
@@nemishasharma5737 True 💯
I love it. I’ve only recently discovered him and he is such a pleasure to watch. I hope he gets well soon
The reality behind that is work. That guy is relatively smart and worked as hell during decades. This is a great example. What he thinks, what is says, is backed up
When he speaks, you can’t help but to be struck by his wisdom.
Amén to that ! I agree wholeheartedly 😅
He has a gift and we can all benefit
An actual interview and a discussion about topics they disagreed on. Not a non-stop barrage of attacks or attempts to smear him. Up vote
Yeah, Finally!
@@vakhtangi24 no they tried
I think the host asked because he geniunely didn't understand. Trying to live by leftist media ideology gets confusing I'm sure.
I do not think they even understood the point of ( outcome ) or preferences, men and women are equal but they obviously have different preferences ( at least in certain areas of life ) , that is normal, why are they being skeptical about it?!
I was thinking the exact same thing, made me reflect.
I love that he was under attack at first and then ended up being a therapist for the rest of the panel.
Your characterisation of this interaction is very insightful. Thank for sharing!
He does that to everyone that tries to denounce him and his message. They end up getting a free session from the best clinical psychologist in the world. #LongLiveDrP
YES! LOVE JP! 😃
@@Orson2u What do you mean? They attempted many times to compartmentalize his arguments for a "win" and misrepresent his arguments in order to get a "win". The consistent looks they give him during the interview are smirking smugness and doubt, just waiting for a logical slip to pounce on.
You're out of your damn mind of you think this panel wasn't in most parts hostile towards his position.
@@krislynn5965 just because they were hostile doesn’t mean they weren’t getting a therapy session. They were subconsciously receiving therapy. Go watch again.
You can see from their faces thinking, ‘this guy makes sense but we can’t let him win easily’
That's how you can know they aren't operating in good faith. None of this is ever really about making things better, always about implementing a belief in what they think is better. Ego and narcissism. Power. Nothing more.
@@SdotThompson I'll actually disagree on the bad faith aspect of your comment. As with all good idea you shouldn't just immediately take what makes sense in one aspect and then not carefully scrutinise it, let's not forget that these people have their own ideology and trying to rationalise both the pre existing and new idea, so of course they will try analyse what dr. JBP is saying. I believe that other than some pointed questions by the host, that this was an incredibly civilised and rational conversation compared to other talks.
To be honest, it was a better conversation because of it. I want to see how he handles these things so I can learn from it. Just agreeing wouldn't be fun.
@@SdotThompson What governs it all is the virallity of the content. They can't let him win easily because content matters, or else you could just put a text-to-speech voice on a blank screen: no one would share it.
Also the answer for this computational problem is truth.
Thank God that we have Jordan Peterson to speak to us in a way that resonates to our very soul.
He speaks from the heart, and combines this with great moral principles.
I find his speaking to be educational, inspiring and full of hope, that good will triumph evil, and give someone a meaning to their existence.
May God continue to bless you Jordan.
🙏
Admitting vulnerability is not the same thing as weakness...
That was an amazing point.
Sound s good but its plain stupid !
:)
@@jellyrun1 *Almost* as stupid as your comment.
Yes it is the same..ask anyone who is coming after you, challenging you in a sport or for a job....
It's actually strength.
This man isn’t debating them. He’s educating them lmao
He is an academic.
Turned a debate into a lecture lol
Yeah it's fantastic to see how badly educated the others were. Their points and reactions were not even in the same ballpark. They did not understand much from Jordan. They think their opinion means as much as facts 🤣
They didn’t even understand him… language barrier? Or just trolling him?
Good call. Many people through the years have said he taught a class here.
The look on her face for all 38 minutes is like she’s still trying to take in the fact that 25 years of science contradicts her opinion
I understand she wants to empower her daughter but saying that boys have its easy, to make a success on this planet is not fair, and what the science shows what happens when you try to force a square peg in a round hole... Maybe I'm wrong but that what understand.
I don't think they understood what he was saying. I mean the questions they had were pretty strange given the discussion of Peterson
Paranoix _ the majority of people with similarly-themed false beliefs continue to embrace them and live in denial since it brings them more comfort and value - sadly though this simultaneously continues the spread of misinformation and the damage it causes. Hopefully she’s able to acknowledge the truth and move forward comfortably with it
The smile on her face when Peterson referenced her topic and acknowledges agreeableness :D 27:45
Christ, I just had to pause the video to say just this. That look confusion mixed with self-righteous indignation is just so pathetic. And she just keeps fucking repeating herself as if simply repeating what she feels to be true enough times, he'll eventually stop refuting her points and go 'oh, I'm sorry; you're right'.
It's just disgusting.
This man is my new hero, I can't get enough of his conversations.
His ideology is basically, make children strong so they can be useful to society despite their gender and race love this guy
So simple and so true. He's the only one that came into the conversation to have a conversation, the rest came to score points and profess their virtue.
That'd be true if he wouldn't base his ideology on religious dogmas
@@sacryss I understand why you would presume that because on a surface level, it certainly seems that way. But in listening to his lectures on Genisis and his talks with Bret Weinstein and Sam Harris, he’s no religious nut. He isn’t a biblical literalist. He draws a lot of fundamental truths from religious texts without accrediting them with any scientific recognition. From an atheists perspective, there’s absolutely nothing wrong with that.
@@sacryss only certain fundamentals. I was raised Christian. Got away from church early. Never enjoyed it. However I am also morally based in certain Christian fundamentals. Not all of course.
You can't even call it an ideology really. It should be common sense.
Ironically Dr Peterson's arguments and attitude are far more caring and respectful towards women than feminism.
Exactly, a lot of women are realizing it thankfully
Hahahahaha it’s actually fucking hilarious
@HandyMan101 Thats not a true statement...
@HandyMan101 well, that's narrow-minded statement. Woman is there to provide next generations,she grows a person inside her and for this reason I hate when men say "women love men conditionally". Can you raise and educate your kids , pay your flat bills, get food without money? Just with your unconditional manly love? Then me as a woman cannot, I need food, place to live etc and if I create a family with a man I want a man to be able to support me and our children! So I find your statement humiliating..
@HandyMan101 lmao, you have nothing to support your point so instead of replying to my questions you just threw in a general bullshit, haha, thanks for proving me and the whole order of the family and life right!:))
You could tell by the looks on their faces that they disagreed with Jordan very often, but always gave him all the time he needed to answer. None of the questions were framed in a negative way towards him. Bald guy got the help he needed to divorce his wife. Great interview!
lol
Brungus No many questions are framed in a negative way.
鄭茂廷 I guess it’s better to say that they were critical rather than hostile, which is preferable
Bald guy was already divorced before this. He got insight of how he should of done it better
The problem is people have been and are being brainwashed. Forcing "equality" on people isn't about equality, it's about disruption of natural harmony and keeping us bickering among ourselves about bs whilst letting the "elite" destroy us and our offspring.
"People are stronger than their misfortunes."
"The lack of their best hurts everything!"
"Can't get any better than that."
Three perfect quotes........and he was barely even trying.
He is a master at speaking to people who hate him and don't understand him.
He’s the one where there is an attempt at being “provoked” - he simply chooses not to be.
What about the people who dislike him and DO understand him ?
@@palmereldritch7777 There are plenty of those people, and many of the things they say are worth listening to, but I've never seen or heard him be interviewed by someone like that.
@@erichaynes4049 Interviewed or debated ?
As an interviewer you hopefully give your interviewee the space to make his own statements. You just ask a question, and you can ask a tricky question, but you don't engage in criticism - cause hey if you're not gonna fight it, then you are having a debate, not an interview.
Seeing more and more debates with Peterson, with people who do understand him and see where he's getting at ....and simply don't agree with his premises and the stuff he just assumes to be true.
For example his analysis of Bible stories, going deeper and deeper, is for him a proof of Judeo Christian tradition being on a higher level than other religions. Uhmmm, Really? why ? Just because he can look deeper and deeper nd see more meaning?
Hell, you can look at any work of art worth it's salt and find deeper and deeper meaning in infinite layers. You can look at the stars and find infinite meaning. (and people did and do- even Judeo Christians).
so does that make the Bible a "special book above all others" ? Mweeeh, no, not from where i'm standing.
And his analysis itself seems to be on somewhat shaky ground- projecting his own ideas into the book. (for the record i think the Bible was more or less designed that way - hence you have 100 and counting different varieties of bible interpretation and which one is the correct one? Jordan Peterson's ?). so is it the book, the stories as Peterson himself claims? Or the interpreter?.
Personally i'd say it usually falls somewhere in between. There are a few scientists and artists who can communicate exactly what they want. but even then it is what people get out of it - or not.
Butin the end that doesn't make the Bible a "special" book. just A book. (with some interminable boring passages between some good yarns. And a couple that make no sense whatsoever- you know the one)
@@XFR18 yup, and if he can't get his message across that well, maybe he has a problem in communicating. On the whole I'd say it's quite clear though and the more I listen to him the more holes appear in his narrative.
I love how this slowly turned from an interview into a counseling session
😂😂🤣🤣
Exactly- great observation
@@jhinjuicyplays9419 RIGHT?! LOL... So, I know this guy...errrmmm uhhh who wants to get a divorce, what would I..ermmm I mean, he do?! hahahaha
TRUE!!!
It was beautiful he is so smart and when you look into the info he is spot on well done
No interrupting in conversations and the respect between each other. The crowd was also great.
JBP here is basically teaching. No offense to the lady here, but this is a lecture and everyone is better for it.
@@buddyowens839 I think they came for an argument and worked out that they agreed with most of what was said.
David O'Conner I struggle to keep to keep up with all the large words he uses and the amount of information he pumps out. Especially the lady, she went in for a fight and found she has someone who was helping her cause in a way.
I think this was more like Jordan Peterson's TED talk
I think it is because the scandinavians are a more reserved type of people. I may be wrong but they seem to come across this way.
All the guests were so respectful ! Thank you for the kind and calm discussion
It's shocking that saying "men and women are different" is shocking
He's just saying the most obvious, simple things in a concise way and everyone thinks it's mind-blowing. Like he says, this stuff isn't even contested amongst those who study the field.
I don't understand how it's controversial in the least.
Yeah, all of a sudden biological common sence is controversial...
Damn you and your pesky statistics and data. As the lady says in this video after hearing exhaustively scientifically proven facts: I disagree
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"Admitting vulnerability is not weakness. It's courage."
They cannot grasp the concept that to admit vulnerability is courageous, while vulnerabilities within themselves are in no way virtuous or automatically 'brave'.
Admitting vulnerability is like saying: "I have a weak spot, right here, see? You can strike it if you want. I can handle that. It won't destroy me."
Nothing's weak about it, as long as that is true. If you can survive when your vulnerability is exploited you can survive anything.
Pretending there is no vulnerability is to be afraid that you can't, in fact, survive that.
Facts!
@@MrRavellon Actually, what Dr. Peterson meant is that to admit vulnerability is to accept that there's something wrong with you and that you've gotta fix that. And to fix that, you often have to "go into the unknown". Pretending that there is nothing wrong with you is to avoid facing the facts/truth about yourself in order to avoid having to do anything about it, which means you can stay in your little comfort zone.
@@justinkim7202 no, that's weakness you're talking about. Weakness is a flaw. Vulnerability is not. Anything you care about deeply enough creates vulnerability in you. To "fix" those vulnerabilities you would have to stop caring. That's not a good thing.
I get so frustrated with this woman every time I see this interview. She's not listening at all. She just keeps saying, "so, what's wrong with equality then" and he's not saying there's anything wrong. He's saying equality leads to diversity of choice, meaning people may not choose the same paths. It is not hard to understand!
I will give her respect.. I mean, you should see some of the Americans interviewing women that want to talk about Gender equality with him, oh man.. so unnecessarily rude.. She listened more than most, though she may have doubted his ideals, you can see she was trying to understand in her eyes
Yea nothing she says even has anything to do with what hes saying.
I K R? 😆 It's the "I know you are but what am I? " approach to reason.
*massive difference in intellectual capacity, she wasn't able to follow what he was saying, let alone formulate an ongoing debate...
Agreed. It seems to me that what she wants is for children to be raised gender neutral, that girls and boys can think alike ignoring DNA or whatever it is that makes the genders inherently different. She fails to comprehend that equal opportunity does not mean equal outcome. Even though girls have the opportunity to become fighter pilots they may not become fighter pilots by choice. So the outcome isn't an equal number of men vs women pilots.
What a pleasure to see educated and, more importantly, respectful adults going about their business. I’ve huge admiration for all 4.
Jordan has them absolutely transfixed.
Why can't people understand this man?
He is speaking with facts. He isn't biased.
I do understand him 🙂 Love being a woman, love hid message. I find it to be true.
I think you answered your own question.
They just hear the labels that other biased individuals place on him to fit their own agendas, i.e. "Jewish shill" vs "nazi".
It breaks my heart that people don't actually hear his message. So much good to get out of it for people of any gender or color. Be the best you can be, take on the responsibilities that frighten you and meet those challenges, and thereby create a meaningful life. So many people are looking for meaning these days. It's easy, it's within you.
Because many people are incompetent.....that's why people like him exist in the first place
Because they are biased. They are emotionally invested in their own world view and resent that the facts don't agree with what they already believe to be true. It can't be that they are wrong, so it must be him.
My dad died last year, and I kept hearing jordan in back of my mind saying, you want to be the guy who everyone leans on during that time.
That idea has deeply impacted me as well.
My dad died and I was that guy... do yourself a favor. Find a good therapist. Good luck brother.
Being this person for my family when my father passed. Allowed me to have a sense of value in my own life. I often look back and criticize the way I conduct myself in situations.. Looking back now, I would not change anything. "Be the lighthouse during the unforeseen storm's"
Sorry for your loss man keep strong
Thanks for sharing, that is beautiful
How to prevent divorce:
1. Learn to negotiate
2. Be clear about what you want
3. Resolve conflicts as they arise
4. Tell the truth
Absolutely, and one other point, which imo has to Top that list - figure all of that shit out BEFORE marrying.
5.) Buy her A HUGE 💍💎
6. Never leave any bruises
It's a JOKE
@@Xfranman no man Diamonds are a scam only for people to spend money thats BS.. create something on your own and gift it to your special one ..
Simpler alternative..............do not get married. Do not let her start moving her things in. Do not let yourself be guilted or otherwise coerced into taking the relationship any further then you are comfortable with. If at some point you start thinking about marriage, buy your house and anything of any real value that you dont want to loose at least a year before you get married. Do not let her move in till after you are married. If she doesnt like that idea and starts in with "but sweetheart, I want us to buy a house together" then she is not after your love. She is securing her retirement and pre-buying her boarding tickets on the cock carousel all at your expense. I'm not telling anyone what to do. Just offering a few helpful hints to avoid what so many of my friends went through. Oh, and above all, when it comes to lawyers, retain yours first and spare no expense. Good luck.
Without a shadow of doubt, when JP speaks about how his father spent time with him, despite his being a 'task-master', and especially when he recalls the feedback from people on the positive effect he has had on them, it touches his heart profoundly. It's like the recognition that his work on building individuals' self-esteem gives his life true significance. You can see that he is close to crying.
He is both highly cognitively and emotionally intelligent, as well as being intellectually competent. Powerful gifts he has. Must also be exhausting and lonely at times.
People think they'll have a discussion with him but his level of genius is quite unmatched. He just talks sense and has done his research to make him an expert with tremendous knowledge and outstanding communication skills. I really admire his heart and mind.
Jordan Peterson’s UA-cam content is genuinely free education and it’s so much more valuable that what I get taught in college
@@amirtsarfati6566
The fact you are masquerading as this person is abhorrent, made even worse by trying to trick people out of their money.
I’m a factory worker and I apply his teachings within my weekly life and have seen things get better.
If it's more valuable than what you learnt in college then drop out of the liberal arts degree
@@amirtsarfati6566 SCAMMER!!!! If you had a conscience I would say shame on you! But as you are sadly Godless in your life, I am going to suggest you to get on your knees, ask the True God, that you claim to work for, to forgive you and make yourself right with Him. You sad, sad, human being. I pity you but am also afraid for your soul.
Getting dumber down with a Jordan Peterson video lol internet is mostly all males lol which is why he attracts a male cult following lol
My compliments to the Interviewer. He was not hostile, and he allowed Mr. Peterson to answer the questions asked.
This interviewer was much more respectful than so many others who had Dr. Peterson as a guest. As someone with 50% Swedish blood, I would like to think that kind of respect is genetic :-)
Gordon Ramsay/Kiefer Sutherland
gave a good interview.
Richard Blackmore I also agree with you’re observation about the interviewer. Peterson made a great point about egalitarian societies and equality of outcome. He then asked the lady if that is something she can support instead of putting in his two cents.
Richard Blackmore doctor 👨⚕️, guy
I agree. As someone blessed with keen senses, that comes with the con of often being unable to resist sounds and sights out of my immediate focus. Therefore, needless to say, I struggle to hear any one thing if several sounds along the same baritone are taking place simultaneously. That being said, uncivil discourse with frequent interjections and rude attempts to over-talk/dominate dialogue where no single thought is ever completed are near impossible for me to follow. I find that extremely frustrating, especially when I’m interested in the intended exchange. I took particular notice to the silence and respect of the other two doing their best to understand him though they clearly didn’t agree and often took offense. Compliments to all participating parties for me 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
They actually treat him like a guest even if they disagree with him. Amazing panel.
Very active on web.
Sick Old Misogynic Jordan Peterson kissing the Nazi Terrorbanus hard for 50 million HUF:
"my message to Hungarians:
Do not rebel against your Führer! What your prime minister is trying to do is to restore the metaphysical foundation of the Hungarian culturerace"
They ask the dumbest questions. Whats this obsession with equality? Are women incapable of getting jobs? Are women so stupid they cant lead?
Yes great conversation and very respectful panel
Welcome to Scandinavia, folks. A civilized culture. 🤗
This is probably the best interview in the history of the world given the setting, the timing, the group dynamic, the duration, its the perfect balance, thank you to all involved
their facial expressions trying to understand what Peterson is talking about is fantastic
I was thinking the same thing lol
I don't think that their facial expressions are ones of not understanding; I think the expressions are basically that he doesn't know what he is talking about, and they just waiting to try and unravel what he is saying and throw it back in his face to try and discredit and undermine his expertise.
Jordan is the expert: the 3 amigos are not.
@@jeffferris7844 it's both. I've had that look before. It's partially the look of attempting to process the concepts after having to translate them to your native language. It will give you a headache if you do it for too long
Jeff ferris Aside from Peterson virtually never having an opinion about anything he can’t back up with solid facts and evidence, I don’t think the participants so much disagreed with him as they had difficulty understanding a fairly sophisticated level of English, as well as difficulty expressing their thoughts in the same fashion about a complex topic. Maybe I’m wrong, but those facial expressions looked to me like inquisitive fascination with a sprinkle of confusion.
Many people in the comment field is giving the people in the panel a hard time for being too sensitive, missing the point, etc. I don’t think that’s it at all. This is not the Trump/Biden presidential debate, it’s Sweden (Norwegian host), where people respectfully listen and ask questions to try to understand each other and maybe find common ground.
I couldn't tell if it was a language barrier, or disdain.
Why do people have such a hard time understanding the difference between equality of opportunity and equality of outcome? Also why are people so shocked to hear that men and women tend to make different choices and have different priorities in their lives? Men and women are different. It is not a difficult concept.
In their minds difference = bad
@@MattieK09 Sorry to bother you mate but are you saying that the same people that support multiculturalism and LGBT rights consider differences to be bad? I mean you're probably not saying that but in that case your comment is an oversimplification that doesn't give credit to the swedes when it's due.
@@henriklybeck579 Well that's not a accurate way to frame them. But, YES, those in the cult of intersectionality do not like any facts that are adverse to their narrative. Literally 1000s of YT vids you can watch.
@@MattieK09 I mistook you to be making a generalised statement about swedes, which you obviously weren't, so I did the same. I agree with you though so thanks for opening up your comment.
@sibeliandrift Honestly this is a huge difference between the nordic countries and the US, and is partly why it's hard to imagine a similar social welfare model existing in the US, at least with the differences in values as they stand at the moment.
JBP’s eloquence and vocabulary bring tears to my eyes.
I swear! He’s my role model. I could listen to him for hours!
Simple….just like always, facts vs feelings. A conservative deals with facts and liberals deal with feelings. 🤷🏼♂️
Me being like 69 on this beautiful comment also brought a tear to my eye 👁️👄👁️💦
He resonates with many. He has a way of explaining things in such a clear, intelligent manner.
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I love how they actually are interested him as a person. They let him speak and calmly try to understand his opinions whether or not it matches theirs.
One of the best Jordan Peterson interviews. He is so educated and so articulate that it's a real pleasure hear him.
Look at how civil and quiet these people are while Peterson talks, even though they don't agree.
ryan milovich good point and I agree with you but I also think they are learning not only about him but in general.
ryan milovich because they don’t have the intellectual capacity too have a realistic debate with Peterson.Its not a good strategy too listen if you not agree, furthermore if it is on camera. If you suggest that is good, a Dialogue from Peterson without that people would be much better
@@Ashlanmilo9814 I am speaking more on the difference between these people and your typical American.
ryan milovich yes because Americans are taught to be confident no matter what.
One guy showed the stats that they rate lower than average in education international ratings, but they are at the top when it comes to confidence.
@@johnsmilitantbelch That will change. The reason Scandinavian people/Canadian people are considered more polite is because they haven't been infected with multi-culturalism to the degree that America has. Once they get a more diverse nation and the politics center around their differences like America it will be the same.
Jordan Peterson: "The science, the literature, the history, the data, the statistics..."
Annie Loof: "I feel..."
Ben Shapiro enters
@@reznovnata3889 shapiro is a controlled RINO, he is glenn becks little jew
@@balazamon what?????
@@reznovnata3889 ben shapiro is controlled opposition, he is glenn becks clone and is part of the never trump opposition. he lied about lewandowski and is nothing more than a shill
The Three Fs of female speech: Feel, Felt, and Feeling.
"I just feel so...", "And it made me feel like...", "I'm feeling...", "I felt so..."
Who needs Logic & Reason when you have feelings & emotions?
I so often come back here to listen to this conversation again. I am so impressed by how he manages to make his point so clear and almost undiputeable, how easy it seems for him to answer to these really diffucult questions and how he also can show himself as someone with empathy and good will for all the people out there. It's like listening to the best possible mentor/teacher that could ever exist. Thank you Mr Peterson, I hope you can go on and enlighten us for a long time to come.
He clearly became emotional when talking about the people who have never had an encouraging word. A man not afraid to show his emotions or be vulnerable in that moment.
He is a fascinating man.
The trap that is laid before men is that if you don’t show emotion, you don’t feel them. It is false, of course. We all have a heart, men and women.
@@jacobberry5138 exactly. We are all human. We all feel emotions and it's sorrowful that men are generally made feel they can't show their emotions ..
I dont think it's because he was fearless, I think it was because he simply couldn't help it; he actually, truly cares - thus he's uncontrollably moved to tears when empathising with their suffering.
I love him for it. His motivation for helping is so pure.
You cannot put EMOTIONS on every single decision that is why men usually do not HAVE TO BE EMOTIONAL.. ..
As a scandinavian, Jordan B. Peterson is a voice I have missed in the public discourse... Thank you, Dr P.!
Sweden?
Tune in for the Zizek - Peterson debate they are planning for April. I am hoping Peterson will be the pupil, like Harris was to Peterson in those debates (although he didn't know it)
@Tiktaalik .... TikTaalik it's an antidote to lunatics like you.
@Tiktaalik Wtf? Whats wrong with you?
21st Century Viking Atwqqta
They were however far more courteous than any American liberal would've been.
Maybe but Americans (and more specifically those living in the north of the US) tend to more blunt/straight forward than people in the EU about everything so it may seem that way when they are really just as angry (if your talking about the crazy activists). There are radical and rude people for every opinion that exists.
@@dr.martinlroberts1908 I find Europeans (especially Germans and Scandinavians ) to be shockingly blunt :P
there was a massive level of passive/agressive going on. levels of which should not be possible.
American liberals like Sam Harris? You participate in the same identity politics that Peterson was criticizing yet are completely unaware. You should listen to his ideas more closely.
I don't think they understood what he was saying. The blonde said that women in her culture should be able to go into whatever job, right after Peterson said that was fine.
"The lack of our best hurts everything" - best part for me
Yet the war against "the patriarchy" is primarily a war against "the hierarchy of competence"
This was fantastic. It is so refreshing to finally see an interviewer allow Dr. Peterson the time to truly answer questions without attempting to jump down his throat or spin what he says. Props to your show.
Thank you so much! We're glad you like it!
You've definitely gained another fan!
@@SkavlanTV Not sure if you will get this response but thank you from Australia. A truly wonderful, intelligent and respectful show. All the best for the future to you and the crew! Many cheers
@@SkavlanTV good interview guys! but you gotta drop those stupid questions at the beginning it's really embarrassing.
I agree! It's refreshing to see a civil discussion!
Honestly this group of people listen better than anyone else. Respectful as well.
@batshitcrazy007 Naa, people on nordic countries dont really interrupt each other in these type of talk shows.
brewerdaniel exactly, you can tell they are listening, but don’t understand a damn thing he said haha.
I hate to be that guy but Scandinavia is a homogeneous society. That's why theyre civil and polite.
I was expecting someone to blurt in and interrupt with some garbage but it never happened. Sverige ftw
I would not consider it "listening". The lady especially (and perhaps this is down to the language, at least in part), just recited what she wanted to say on the issue before the show even began. It was like she did not actually hear a word Peterson said, but argued what she decided he would say before he spoke. Her first comment especially made that obvious. He spoke for 8 mins, then she "countered" by saying a more generic version of exactly what he had been saying, but clearly assumed she was opposing his thoughts. She literally began by saying equality of opportunity is important to her, as if in defense, despite the fact Peterson had just spent 3 mins explaining why no rational person would oppose equality of opportunity.
To be fair, many people do the same thing even when they are interacting in their first language - so I do not fault her overtly. However, for whatever reason; I did not see any evidence she listened to a single thing.
I'm a young woman, and I think Peterson is amazing. He has inspired me a lot in my life. May God bless him.
Best wishes!
I'm an old woman and I am also inspired. I feel more hopeful for our youth due to the amount of people that are listening to these discussions.
Awesome. Spread the word. It's kind of frustrating that I'm not taken seriously as a man when I talk about human rights.
Yeah, 26:20 look how uncomfortable these commies get when Jordan reminds them how vulnerable children are.
I was depressed for almost 20 years, didn't achieve much and thanks to Peterson and others like him i'm now in a fully funded course for becoming a Network and System Administrator for Microsoft and Linux.
This was actually incredible, I’m always in awe but the way Peterson is articulating himself relentlessly here is extraordinary
"The lack of our best, hurts everything." Dude is inspiring
The other three people are very attentive listeners. Even if they disagree, they are listening and you can see genuine curiosity on their faces. That's what we need for civil discussions.
Were they there to listen or take part in a discussion?
@@2224Quentin both. They did both things. I'm just saying that they were attentive in general.
Quentin Wright I think we are all hear to listen to Jordan let’s be honest 😂
That is a well deserved compliment to them.
Because English isn't their native language and they can't find a good place to interject
When the lady was talking about "women leading and men hugging and kissing" that just solidified to me that a lot of people have a fundamental misunderstanding of how men share and express affection. My dad hugs me and all that wonderful stuff, but he shows love very differently than my mother, but I, and my siblings, have always been able to absorb that love from him even though it was different from our mothers, and that's okay. Men and women show love differently, and if you add in the whole introvert and extrovert then that changes the dynamic even more, but that's okay and people need to realize that the way women show love isn't the only way to show love.
Spot on.
you took the words right out of my mouth
Thank you.
True my dad has cried for me more times than my mum, yet I get kissed more from her... physical affection isn't the superior affection
I love Amanda Hagenkis!
I actually love how these people do not interrupt him while not necessarily agree with him. This is what interviews and debates should look like. Well done Scandinavia! Definitely subscribed.
He pisses people off, because he's so genuine. So wise. So articulate
I think that is a wonderful statement and so clearly true. If more people would just take a little of there time and listen and comprehend what mr Peterson is saying this world would be so much better and informed. He’s really dedicating himself to make life better for everyone but these days people don’t like or except reality
Sorry, I don’t think this is Jordan Peterson. I think he is trying to be someone he is not, seems like he’s fighting with his ego all the time. Seems like he’s suffering, and has warped visions of life. That’s ok, but I don’t think he’s enlightened enough for these ‘lectures’. We have got past this outdated ideology.
@@PB78341 how have you come to that conclusion?
@@DeaconStJohn-wi2uy that’s what I see from a psychoanalytic perspective. I’m not saying he’s a bad person, he comes across as a troubled person. His recent struggle with his health and addiction is well documented and I have no problem with that. However, to me it’s hard to believe this is the person he is when he’s at home. Sometimes I struggle to make any sense of what he’s saying.
I watched one of his talks with the volume muted, I saw severe pain in his body language. Analysis of his body language and behaviour shows many tells. This leads me to think he may not be fit for these lectures.
@@PB78341 fair enough I respect your analysis, are you a physiologist or anything along those lines just out of curiosity?
I am so tired of women seeing us women as ” victims”, no! I am a mother of 4 boys! I like being a feminine intelligent woman!!!
LOVE Dr. PETERSON! Thank you 🙏🏽
Its all about common sense. Glad to hear your point cheers me up.
I am woman too and I agree your points
Exactly! Thank you.
I'm a 16 year old girl and I totally agree.
Peterson is basically saying what? That rich white men are badly oppressed.
You girls should have him as the poster boy for feminism.
He’s also encouraging the best male behaviour. It’s win win with Peterson
@paul w wtffffffffffff
@@alpha6549 it's ok, Paul identifies as a woman...
Any idea that comes out a man's head is toxic tho, apparently
@@ShhooterMcGavin nah its not ok
Imagine a man writing a woman like this
Saying hey you are you single cuz u look cuze
Where is the shame
Due to how identity politics works nowadays i think Christina Hoff Sommers would be a better match.
How fast he swiches between topics and bombards them with knowledge and proper argument. His intelligence is monumental ❤
"I say what I believe to be true, and people find that provoking. That's not the same as me provoking people." - This truth can't be stated enough in 2020.
@Brian May The chances are he has done this or similar many times. Eventually someone retaliates in a not so nice way.
Absolutely. On top of that fact a lot of people don't understand the nuance and post inflammatory remarks with little understanding of their consequences. So what you end up with is idiots from all angles rubbishing each other with little respect or integrity. A bit of education and some adult lessons for everyone would be good.
elon musk just became the richest person on the planet
That statement seemed inaccurate to me, but I didn't even go to a real college so what do I know.
Although some definitions of "provoke" or "provoking" can include sub-definitions that cite a deliberate intent, the main definition just states that it causes it. Usually something like, "causing annoyance; irritating, inciting anger." So my understanding is that provocation can be either intentional or inadvertent.
Perhaps he was just trying to say that he isn't purposefully trying to aggravate people, but I don't think that he can dismiss someone saying he is a provocative person just because he isn't setting out to do so.
@@brentwaits954 I think I'm next,,,
absolutely best camera direction ever on a panel show--fantastic to watch the listening member expressions --great interview
Thanks so much for that, we appreciate it!
Yes totally agree, great interview all round.
The bald interviewer was asking Peterson for a way to divorce his wife
Ikr!!! "hm hm hm .. how old does the kid have to be for me to gtfo?"
He was already divorced at that point. That's why he was interested in the topic.
This made me laugh a lot.
Lol I read this hilarious comment right when he started to inquire lol 😂
Looked like it! It's pretty much the only subject he asked clarifications for.
This is definitely one of the better interviews with Jordan. It's pretty obvious the hosts have different position than Jordan but overall the conversation was respectful and fruitful. Good job!
Gotta give credit to them for almost never interrupting him
Highly underrated piece of this video. Most lefties can't let anyone else form a full sentence without "Reeeeeeee"
@@MunchJinkies It's true. But in a limited timeframe, you don't want one person to just talk for an hour straight. But I think the format of this show is just different than your typical talkshow.
YOU ARE SO RIGHT ,,,,,I THINK THEY WERE AFRAID TO,...IT WAS LIKE!! I WILL KEEP QUITE AND NOT MAKE A FOOL OF MYSELF!!
It’s just European politeness
How do you interrupt a man who is speaking with so much sense and intelligence?
Excellent interview, loved the openness of it, letiting the guest talk freely without being attacked as has been seen in other shows. Congratulations for setting up a great stage and interesting guests.
Thanks so much for that, Gabriel! We truly appreciate it.
I completely agree with you, Gabriel. Great comment.
I completely agree. I wish the interviewer would have been a little more critical of his other guests though. Like he asks Dr. Peterson to clarify his points into where his beliefs stem from. In my opinion, Annie Lööf should have received at least one question about the empirical basis of her belief. Or if she even listens to any proof that she might be wrong.
Still, the style of conversation was very illuminating as it was
You can see that women wanted a piece of jordan,,, she was attracted as f
@@An0niem4 and so the title... its an interview with Jordan Peterson
"you are provoking people!"
"No, I am speaking what I think to be true, and people choose to be provoked."
You mean people are responsible for their own actions?! WHAT?!
Such a difficult concept for so many people though xD
Crazy
No, he is not provoking people To disagree with what he is saying is fine But it is you who are feeling provoked, because you disagree with what he is saying
So many people today base identity on their beliefs, based on feelings, instead of seeing the world through logic and facts. So, to disagree with their beliefs, most of the time based on feelings, is to personally attack them. This is why we can't have open debate. To dismantle that type of mindset in any way is to dismantle the person's entire self-identity.
You mean people are not? :)
Just rewatched this, the most respectful conversation with Dr Peterson by people that disagree with him on certain topics 😊
Jordan Peterson: "The data shows quite clearly..."
Someone else: "But I don't feel like..."
Jordan Peterson: "THE. DATA. SHOWS. QUITE. CLEARLY...."
And Remember these are the same people who claim to believe so strongly in science. Obvious they only use when convenient, ignore when they don't like. They're the true science deniers.
yet the data on climate change or the existence of god he can ignore right?
@Jim Browski the right are wildly anti intellectual, climate change, trans (studies are out), trickle down..always wrong about everything, systemic racism, fucking wearing masks and corona virus, election fraud. You have to be partially lobotomized to be on the right
@@RawMaterialENT Nothing here has anything to do with "The Right" or "The Left". Forcing people to be either with you or against you is a great way to push people away from you.
@@RawMaterialENT your tribalism is on full blast.
I am a lady, born and raised in Nigeria. From a young age I have had a love for good books, thoughtful speech and reasonable discussions. However, listening to this man without bias has not only improved my way of handling situations and different perspectives, but sticking to what is factual and understanding the rules of life in general. Feels like someone finally gets it in all the world's unnecessary chaos.
Very well said, keep on growing as a person and always decide for yourself for what it is you believe in ❤️
Good for you
Na better woman u be. The fact without mincing words is hard to handle but it’s the reality!!
yes, me too, I found his ability to just talk about what is Factual so refreshing
no unnecessary bias or opinions just examples after examples through experience and actual data.
❤️
Foreigner brings shocking news: men and women are different.
SHOOK LMFAOOOOO
Fake news fake news
Surprise! 🙈😭
He is right. I was raised to do what I wanted. But as a female my instinct and competence is helping people. I have been a pediatric nurse since 1992 and a nurse since graduating in 1990. I also was a volunteer firefighter and ambulance attendent. Those are both helping professions as well but "male dominated".
I can't believe were gotten to a state in the world where Onion articles are becoming real...
I was very impressed with all the people who took part in this discussion
It was so different to many interviews or shows featuring Jordan Peterson which can wind up being unpleasantly combative.
Those asking the questions seemed to genuinely want to find out what made him tick. And they did a pretty good job of that.
The questions were insightful and fair. And the sorts of things a lot would want to know about Jordan Peterson.
I’m assuming they had quite different perspectives than he had on a number of issues. But that didn’t motivate them to try to catch him out. They seemed to want to genuinely learn about him.
I congratulate them all. There was a real gentleness and fairness shown by everyone. And we all learnt something.
It’s the best interview I’ve seen of Jordan Peterson.
Before being mad at the panel, at least they are having a civilized discussion and not calling him a racist. That should count for something these days.
@lizo yako only in your world?
Indeed, also how well they converse given English being a second language (puts a lot of strain on focusing in a debate). But still, find annoying how many times I had to hear JP repeat himself in interviews due to the same misinterpretation of what people believe he stands for. Gender always get slipped in there for some reason.
Definitely not perfect, but this is the first interview I didn’t loathe the manner of the interviewer. The most civilized I’ve seen yet. The Hard Talk and the GQ and many others were so bad I could barely finish. If anyone knows of any decent interviews besides Joe Rogans where his views aren’t some kind of bullseye and are explored from a well informed point of view I’d love to know.
Being decent shouldn’t be rewarded or commended, it should be the norm.
The fact that they stopped trying to find an angle to attack him from counts for something.
Jordan: cites 25 years of constantly replicated scientific studies and factual data
Blonde girl: well I don’t think that
Common Sense how does that come into play here at all? Please explain
Common Sense trump derangement syndrome is real...you are my example.
I watched a TED talk about this feminist who was making a documentary about mens rights activists, and she goes on to say how she wasnt actually listening to them but just waiting for them to say something offensive, ect. She realised that what was the piont if they didnt listen, people's veiws may differ, but that doesnt mean we cant LISTEN.
@@rbike3032 That was most interesting to watch to see her explain how she didn't understand what she had been doing. How it took her a long time to see herself and the other side and break free of her ideology. It had so much power of her.
Its more like: "I don't feel that is true." That is the irony .
Definitely my #1 favorite Jordan Peterson interview. He really got to flesh out his ideas. The interviewer letting Jordan speak without constantly interrupting him like American reporters do also helped a lot.
Good point about interviewer
Yeah, good point about the interviewer. This counts for him
However; He tried to trap Jordan Peterson many times. It was so obvious to me. So I'm sure that it was so obvious to Jordan
It was great because he did his homework on jordan's philosophy and even if he plans to trip him it doesn't matter because a terrible enemy is as good as a nice friend for growth
American media have an agenda! Even Progressives such as Brian Greenwald, Jimmy Dore point it out.
Bald Guy didn't want to be there, legs crossed and leaning as far away as possible. Blonde Gal was smart enough not to say too much, knew she'd be shown to be an ignorant lefty.
Smart to let him talk and listen like the other guests did. Their silence shows their intelligence. What an opportunity they had to sit there (in person) and drink from the firehose of brilliance and wisdom Jordan was spittin'. And what an opportunity we have to have this TED-Talk-like wisdom at our fingertips. Thanks and respect to Jordan! WOW!!!
That lady is mad shook. I'm dying, she cant even understand why it makes sense but why she doesn't agree. Its so conflicting for her.
Her: "But if I make my son play with Barbie dolls and wear pink and push my daughter into running for Prime Minister, won't that make the world a better place?"
Lmao
Some people think that they can create any outcome simply by deciding on a goal and working to make it happen. Our children don't turn out a specific way just because we have a goal for them.
@@halcooper6059 No truer words were ever spoken.
That's called cognitive dissonance
I literally cannot understand why people find JP so "controversial."
I agree. I could understand someone subscribing to different data and forming a different opinion but as he says, he is simply telling the truth as he sees it.
because he speaks truth to power....the culture today does not care about truth they care about irrational emotional behaviour and giving into those feelings to the detrement of the individual or society...it will create more grievances and more authoritarian behaviours...in extreme cases, persecutions!
Never underestimate people's capacity for ignoring/denying uncomfortable truths.
Arrogance. Narcissism. Watch her face as the interview goes on. From about the 15 min mark every time the camera cuts to her, her smirk is growing, as she's retreating into what she believes and building and submitting to her own confirmation bias of "this pos". Now what I want to see is her watch this back, with a body language expert breaking it down to her. Doesn't even consider his points, which are backed by between 25 and 100 years of psychological study.
@@SamohtNox and often they are such miserable people that when they force people to also think the way they do, it is satisfying. Either the power over others or their own feeling of moral superiority drives them. No facts can tell them they shouldn't believe these things. The people in power either have ulterior motives or honestly feel they know what is best for us better than we know what is best for us.
Seen this twice before and it still made me tear up when he said, "Because I want the best for them...genuinely."
We know you do, sir, and it's true that that's why we follow.
Jordan have God given talent and mind!
I love him as a person😊
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Exactly so
Agreed 100
Some of the facial expressions on Fredrik's face as Jordan was making certain points in a very direct way were just "PURE GOLD"! He couldn't believe what he was hearing! Haha!
The panel seems confounded by an ideological need to oppose him -- but can't find fault in anything he says -- so they just end up sitting there slightly stunned with a confused smugness.
Hmm, very hard to look smug and confused. Confusion yes, their long held beliefs couldn't stand up to the logic they were confronted with.
I feel smug too lololololol
Very, very, well said
Confused smugness isn't the worst reaction at least.
He speaks in terms of overall generalities and she responds with individual ancidotal evidence. Anyone else doing is quickly corrected but not a woman.
Interviewer: You’re provocative!
JP: No I’m not
Interviewer: What are the fake news about Jordan Peterson?
JP: Calling me provocative 😂😂
Good one JP
I like how calm and collected he is. A very eloquent speaker/debater. The lady seems to be trying to convey that she wants equal opportunity and results, but she falls flat because she cannot communicate the message.
Time stamp?
The lady is staring at Jordan like he's a bright LED and she cant really handle it
Please keep in mind that English is not her first language, so she has to translate what he is saying. Don't get me wrong, she can speak and understand English very well, but it is more difficult.
Tony Friendly yea but look at the way she looks at him when he’s talking about gender. It’s different from when Jordan is talking about his childhood
@@tonyfriendly4409 I was going to say, that has nothing to do with the way she’s looking at him. Then I realized her facial expression could definitely be at fault of concentration as well, if that’s what you were trying to say.
@@SlewedDog Huh
That lady went to the bilderberg meeting for some reason
The way he speaks is so unfiltered that you can tell by how he speaks how much he knows and how honest he is.
Jordan Peterson is the living definition of “your boos mean nothing. I’ve seen what you cheer”
I've never heard that phrase before, thats a good one! And youre so right too!
wow! this a nice way to look at it.
@@infinityrobot rick and morty reference mate
@@jamesnicholson4060 its a Rick and Morty reference
@@rodrigueselemani3199 Oh shiiit haha! It is too hahah! Legend, cheers for that Lonewolf!
I cant unhear it in Ricks voice now haha!
That was strange.. no stupid arguing, Peterson delivered the message. One of the bets interviews with Peterson i have seen. Great show, great job!
Thank you for watching and commenting!
peterson simply has found the perfects answers, you can't beat his word intellectuality, you would appear extremely dumb to counter him with primitive dishonest topics
This may very well be true, but those counters work for the audience that wants to hear them, regardless. "But Patriarchy" is an argument to feminists like "But God" is for the religious.
James Taylor
James Taylor singing
The woman's facial expressions speak volumes. She's not quite sure what to make of him.
Jeannie She is conflicted. She admires him but admitting that could affect her preconceived notion of hating anybody that doesn't think like she does...
because she's not taking him and his words at face value, she's trying to find flaws in his point of view and his argument(s)...she's essentially trying to "debunk" him rather than understand him, a fundamental difference that radically changes the ultimate outcome of the interaction.
InherentBias agreed
he has her at 14:58
She disagrees but doesn’t know why. She wants to oppose him because she assumes he’s a right winger.
I never understand one word this man says , but I can listen to him for hours on end , his tone is so reassuring , and comforting