Let’s Revive a Classic Lionel 665 Steam Locomotive!
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
- Hi folks, welcome to MTS! Today we are restoring a classic postwar Lionel 665 steam locomotive. This was a good one. Locked up and lots of rust…I mean patina! Not only the basics of lubrication, clean up and brushes replacement. But a couple surprises along the way. Including a brush plate replacement and smoke pot rebuild. I hope this video helps you out or shows an alternative solution to a restoration you may be working on to help keep these classics on the rails. Thanks for watching and I’ll see you down the line!
I'm the proud owner of a 2065...these are solid spunky little steamers...
Good piece to let the little ones run without the worry of derailment. Gets them interested in the hobby without destroying your collection.
I have been enjoying trains for over 50 years but one can always learn something new. the use of the toothpick to move the E-unit pawl out of the way, exposing the drum was genius. I picked up a 665 years ago at an antique shop in about the same shape. I did some more repairs than you but it is one of the best running locos that I have, I have to straighten one cab corner. I have cut a piece of hardwood to the contour of the cab. I hope with an application of some heat and the help of my wife, I can gently hammer it back to shape. Thank you for an informative video.
I just love watching these great old pieces come back!
Your Amazing. What you did for this Old Rusty Lionel 665 Locomotive is great patience, and skill.
Thanks for the video.
I re watch this many times. Helps me keep my 665 cruisin', smokin' and jokin'. Weather it with an old motor oil wipe. Thanks.
Thanks for sharing
Practical!!!
Nice save! Getting them going again is probably one of my favorite parts of the hobby. Most of my collection consists of stuff most guys would pass up due to them being a little rough around the edges. But that's how I can afford the hobby and I also enjoy it!
Nice job. I'm catching up on some of the videos that I've missed. That locomotive was pretty crapped-out, There is plenty of rust to go around, for sure. I'm a big proponent of PB Blaster, as it is a good rust killer. It would be good to soak those wheels in Blaster and then use a Dremel to clean them up. Either way, it shows that you can take a truly roached out engine and get it running again. Lionel built them tough as nails and with a little maintenance, they will run forever. An excellent video, as always.
Great job bringing it back to life
Nice job on what looked like a basket case! I always like the Lionel 665 because of the heavy, frowning ELESCO feedwater heater! We all wish we would run so well after 70+ years!
Boy I hope you have an ultra sonic cleaner. You would be amazing what it can do for you. It amazing how much it will clean your train part.
This is a good repair video. Nothing more rewarding than rescuing a basket case.
Just a couple comments.
If you’ve properly cleaned the armature face / commutator, and you’ve replaced your brushes, there is absolutely no need to lubricate the commutator. This is not in any of the Lionel service manuals, and is detrimental to the motor life.
I would discourage using a wire wheel inside the e-unit, because the wire particles are just not friendly on the inside of the e-unit and motor. It’s especially a pain if you have magnetraction. What I use instead is a “scotch brite” type head on my Dremel. The nylon particles won’t short anything.
Thank you for your comments. I always appreciate constructive feedback as well as good input. Great point on the wire wheel…I’ll be looking into the “scotch brite” bits for the Dremil tool.
People are hung up on the word "restoration" but the vidoe title actually says "revive". And i find it very interesting and helpful.
Inspirational! I have passed on some locomotives in this condition. I’m going back and give them a try. Nicely done.
Awesome vid. Believe it or not, I wash my brushes in Dawn dishwashing detergent to get carbon and grease off of them. It has been working great.
Excellent, got it running again!
Yes I see your point in keeping these babies running, but what to use to take/get the white deposits off the engine? 🤔😊
Awesome!
I lovetaking pieces like this and getting them running good then looking good!
Great job!
Note: a little grease on the gears will lube them correctly and keep them from chattering. 😎
Sorry couldn’t take the ufo music sound throughout
Well done, dude! Doesn’t take that much to get them going even in some cases where they seem pretty shot. They’re built like tanks!
Very instructive Thank you. Never ever lubricate the collector.
good video engine runs like a champ
I hate toothbrush manufacturers stopped making the firm bristle toothbrush! They're Better for cleaning your models. 😊
Need to clean the rust from the body and the wheels. Looks like hell.
Thank you for your comment. More personal preference than anything. One of my favorite parts of the hobby is finding the locomotives that “don’t work” and get them up and running again. Especially the old postwar locomotives. The patina of the age is a bonus…the rust, oxidation, dents and scratches. Going forward, I’ll call these types of videos revivals more than restorations.
Nice job getting the loco running again, but I would not exactly call that a restoration. I hope you find the time to do a FULL restoration now that you got it running.
It would be cool if you painted it
I like your videos. Don't care much for the background (music?) noise.
This was only a partial restoration. You should get that crap off the wheels, rods, and body
Nah, restoration has lost its meaning. It just means "make it work" in the 21st century.
Do you like receiving projects like these or trains that have rust and such all over it along with the paint being a bit ruined?
Cause most see it as a good weathering display without needing to do work but what do you think?
Thank you for your question. Really comes down to the individual. I tend to agree with the ‘natural weathering’. More of a personal preference than anything. One of my favorite parts of the hobby is finding the locomotives that “don’t work” and get them up and running again. Especially the old postwar locomotives. The patina of the age is a bonus…the rust, oxidation, dents and scratches. It’s a testament to how well these locomotives were built.
@@modeltrainsolutions7368 I have a few for sale if interested..?
Lionel 2344 f3 NYC (power unit only) also Lionel 681 steam engine... They belonged to my grandfather, I am keeping a Lionel 2338 Milwaukee Road GP7 locomotive. I will never have the space for a layout, so I would like to just keep one locomotive, for display.
Looks a little ratty in the still images -- but then on the layout it comes alive.
Why are you assembling the engine without removing the rust? Appears as an incomplete cleaning and definitely not acceptable to me. Sorry to sound negative but I strive to be honest in my comments.😊
Thank you for your comment. More personal preference than anything. One of my favorite parts of the hobby is finding the locomotives that “don’t work” and get them up and running again. Especially the old postwar locomotives. The patina of the age is a bonus…the rust, oxidation, dents and scratches. Going forward, I’ll call these types of videos revivals more than restorations.
I bought one that looks like this one, a 226e! Haven't received it yet. I hope I can get it rebuilt n running!? It has all the valve gear, just missing front n rear trucks. 😊 and the boiler face plate! 😢 Not cheap on ebay!
Can't hear when you talk😢
For real. If I have to turn the volume up past 11 on both dials, it's not me, it's the uploader
Would a paint job be adequate? Looks like there is a lot of something on the body. Very interesting, not sure I would have do it. How mush did you paid?
That something is the oxidation of the die cast zinc body. It is corrosion but can be removed or smoother over with steel wool, sand paper or the like. I would have painted it flat black and weathered it with pastels and a wash, etc.
Hi You did a great job restoring the Lionel 665. I have rusted wheels on various Marx 4 wheel and 8 wheel Marx 3/16 scale metal freight cars. What type of Dremmel bit should I use on the rusted wheels? What works best? Thanks
Depending on the severity of the rust. I have had good results with the wire wheel. For more extreme cases, you could start with a fine grit sanding cylinder.
Dremel wire wheel only to remove the rust. You don't want to grind on the rusty wheels with an abrasive sanding drum or you might remove too much material or render the wheels into an egg shape--you really need to go lightly. Best to use various fine grit sandpapers and sand by hand. When you reach the level of any pitting, stop, as you will ruin wheels and critical dimensions
Thank you for the advice I will try the Dremel wire wheel. I'll try use 400 to 500 grit Dremel sandpaper only for more severe rust and apply the sandpaper conservatively. Thanks for letting me know beforehand
Thankyou I will try wire wheel to start with
What kind of fine oil are you using as a lubricant?
The oil that I am using is Labelle 108.
slay!
I have the Lionel 2036 steam locomotive and tender and the locomotive is making a squealing noise how can I get rid of the squealing noise and I need to replace a roller from the tender it has a groove in it my name is Bill Harvey
Hey Bill…a couple drops of conductor lubrication on the armature should take care of the noise. The roller replacement is a little more complicated. Get a ‘e unit’ tool to separate the two side walls of the e unit just enough to drop the roller. Then replace the roller…I use a trigger clamp tool to squeeze the e unit back together.
@@modeltrainsolutions7368 the roller is on the tender front truck
The roller I am referring to is on the e unit in the locomotive under the shell.
sound very quiet hard to hear
A little too smooth, too good. If that makes any sense.
you need a better soldering gun
SELL IT TO ME
False advertising. I know words have lost their meaning in 2023-2024, especially to Generation Z but calling things like this a restoration is just dishonest. Restoration means ^a return to original condition^ or very very close it. I know a real restoration is basically impossible for things this damaged but "restorers" strive to get as close as possible. This is nothing more than a "make it work" and a "will it run?" video. I could also barely hear you, and I'm not turning my speakers to maximum so mute and 2x speed worked best. You have a nice day and get better ok? 😀
Thank you for your comment. I have since learned to call these types of videos ‘revivals’ as that is just part of the hobby that I enjoy. There was no intention to be misleading or false advertise as I am not selling a service. Just putting my experiences out there around one of the greatest hobbies in the world. Thanks for watching and I appreciate your feedback.
Interesting................Horrible Music!
Yeah…this was one of my earlier video’s. I’ve since quit adding any kind of music as it takes away from the content.
What?! Come on man if you're going to do a job and put it on youtube at least do a good job. Leaving all that rust and corrosion. Nope!
Thank you for your comment. More personal preference than anything. One of my favorite parts of the hobby is finding the locomotives that “don’t work” and get them up and running again. Especially the old postwar locomotives. The patina of the age is a bonus…the rust, oxidation, dents and scratches. Going forward, I’ll call these types of videos revivals more than restorations.
I see what you are saying and I'm well aware of the concept. Europe has a thing for "patina” with old cars "leaving the history of the object" I get it, but for me when something looks all banged up clapped out and abused, no thanks. You don't have to make the things perfect. Let them show some age. Conservation rather than complete restoration. But ratty looking paint, corrosion and pitting left etc. It's not the way the object was meant to be. But hey man it's your train, anyway at least you're getting them running again.@@modeltrainsolutions7368
@@modeltrainsolutions7368 I have post war Lionel engines and locomotives if interested... Lionel 681 I would part with (missing rear stairs) Lionel 2344 f3 NYC power unit (shell has stress cracks but chassis and motors are fine). Thank you for your videos sir, I am still learning about these old model trains, and really have just begun to take the initiative to clean and maintain them. Again, thank you