The Rise and Fall of the Double Action Semi-Auto

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  • Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
  • Within the span of a few short years, traditional double action semi-autos went from being the most popular pistols in the country to the red-headed step-child among self-defense handguns. What happened and why?
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  • @survivalistboards
    @survivalistboards 7 років тому +179

    Learning to shoot a sa/da is like learning how to drive a standard transmission. Once you learn it, it is simple.

    • @borkwoof696
      @borkwoof696 6 років тому +5

      Isn‘t that the case with any skill?

    • @Herb-bu7wz
      @Herb-bu7wz 5 років тому +1

      What’s a standard transmission. 😉

    • @skepticmoderate5790
      @skepticmoderate5790 5 років тому +3

      @@Herb-bu7wz It has a clutch pedal and a manual gear shifting lever. You must disengage the clutch before shifting gears.

    • @ewxlt
      @ewxlt 4 роки тому +1

      This was the case when i did a live skills shooting class with my SP2022 not my G19. Love the Sig.

    • @dutchman55
      @dutchman55 4 роки тому +1

      I just used this today while trying to explain what it’s like shooting SAA

  • @spicecrop
    @spicecrop 5 років тому +23

    I'm going back to DA/SA. The CZ p01 compact is looking like a good fit for me. Double action is far from obsolete. Especially if you appendix carry.

  • @NLLHW
    @NLLHW 8 років тому +29

    I don't even own a gun (yet) but I've literally watched all the videos on this channel. Well produced, informative and entertaining. Always looking forward to learning from your content!

    • @juliomaldonado4028
      @juliomaldonado4028 6 років тому +2

      It's been about 2 years now. Have you purchased a firearm yet? Mine was the CZ P07. I was just curious.

    • @brycearchambault6260
      @brycearchambault6260 3 роки тому +2

      It's been about 5 years now. Have you purchased a firearm yet? Mine was the CZ P07. I was just curious.

    • @Je_QzcY3mN0
      @Je_QzcY3mN0 2 роки тому

      Same here, lol, even though you can't carry or buy a pistol in my country

  • @ckallmes1
    @ckallmes1 8 років тому +40

    Love my DA/SA. I like shooting everything, but prefer them over others.

  • @mongothedestroyer88
    @mongothedestroyer88 8 років тому +108

    If the 1911 is still around after this long I think full steel double action semi's will be around just as long. Not everyone wants a polymer gun or a lack of an external safety.

    • @M9A1MAN
      @M9A1MAN 8 років тому +17

      I agree. I still love and prefer my Beretta M9A1 over my other polymer guns

    • @FishFind3000
      @FishFind3000 6 років тому +11

      Yep, my cz has a feel no glock could ever do.

    • @harvident5703
      @harvident5703 5 років тому +8

      I will be buying my first hand gun and Im im going to buy a da\sa for the extra saftey features that they provide. Ive seen vids of people shooting themselves with glocks and I Do not want that.

    • @carryeveryday910
      @carryeveryday910 5 років тому +4

      3 safties is better than one.

    • @AshGreen359
      @AshGreen359 5 років тому +2

      Plastic is for kids toys

  • @daviddale3624
    @daviddale3624 8 років тому +59

    As a Certified Firearms Instructor, I believe there is a place for the DA/SA pistol in self defense. In 13 of 14 situations where a firearm is used, no shots are fired. The longer and heavier first trigger stroke is your "safety" and fully appropriate for holding criminals at gunpoint. The ability to safely lower the hammer on a chambered round is also important.

    • @cultofmalgus1310
      @cultofmalgus1310 5 років тому +8

      not only DA/SA pistols but also Revolvers. I still feel that revolvers are one of the best first handguns you can get for their sheer simplicity.

    • @nfaisnfgay
      @nfaisnfgay 2 роки тому

      Okay? We’re preparing for the 1 of 14, not the 13 of 14, other wise we wouldn’t even worry about it.
      Literally why 9/10 don’t go to firearm instructors because you guys are fudds

    • @daviddale3624
      @daviddale3624 2 роки тому

      @@nfaisnfgay Elmer here...the error is that you are preparing to fire every time you unholster your gun. You ignore the easily accessible data.

  • @randolph6511
    @randolph6511 Рік тому +1

    I started out shooting revolvers for years, then the striker guns appeared and I switched to them entirely. Years later I tried a Beretta 92 LTT Elite and have returned to the love of shooting DA/SA and I am back home.

  • @BF3ZOMBIE
    @BF3ZOMBIE 8 років тому +6

    my first gun was a p220, specifically because it was DA/SA. and it is still my go to all these years later.
    good video!

  • @bullpup33
    @bullpup33 Рік тому +2

    2023 and still have my da/sa sig. Love it.

  • @c.r.chandler5905
    @c.r.chandler5905 6 років тому +6

    Of all the pistols that I own, my go to EDC is a traditional SIG Sauer P-229 DA/SA in .357SIG. I own and/or have carried a Beretta 96, Kimber 1911, Glock 19, Glock 22, Glock 23, SIG Sauer P-250, SIG Sauer P-320 and a SIG Sauer P-229 DAK and out of all of them the traditional SIG DA/SA 229 is the best handgun I own. Once you train and master that trigger it is smooth as butter and just as accurate as a striker or SA only handgun. The great thing about the DA/SA is you have to focus on the front sight along with being deliberate and smooth during that long DA trigger pull. The trigger forces you to focus on the fundamentals and not get sloppy or lazy. Plus the weight of that trigger pull ensures that you are sure that you are ready to take that shot. I don't understand why someone would want to carry a 3 pound trigger carry gun. I mean I understand the rationale in competition but on the street, it just seems out of place to me.

    • @Templetons
      @Templetons 2 роки тому

      100% agree

    • @LoneStarLawman
      @LoneStarLawman 2 роки тому

      Agreed. The double action on my Sig P229, is easier, when you simply "roll" the double action first shot. The short reset trigger on my P229, in single action, rivals 1911 triggers in smoothness. It is still very popular among traditional shooters. Yes, with millions of new gun owners, I can see why the polymer striker fired pistols, sell well, for there ease of use, cleaning etc. I like them both. I have a Glock 19 gen 4 and a Kahr P9, which are both great striker fired pistols.

  • @Prepare2Survive
    @Prepare2Survive 8 років тому +14

    If you like revolvers a DAO semi auto is a familiar transition and because there's no decocker you don't have anything extra to learn. A good example is a Sig P250 that has a smooth 5-6 lb DOA trigger. I think the biggest advantage to a DA/SA semi auto is the awesome SA trigger. Even when you compare the best striker fired triggers to a SA trigger in a DA/SA pistol sometimes the hammer fired gun has a better SA trigger than the striker fired gun. Another advantage to a DA/SA pistol is the firing pin channel isn't as susceptible to causing light primer strikes when it gets dirty because there are looser tolerances in the DA/SA firing pin channel compared to a striker fired gun where the channel needs to be tight in order for the trigger to be consistent. Thankfully Glock pistols are very easy to disassemble so the striker channel can be cleaned, but it's still an extra maintenance step that's needed in order for the gun to be reliable in adverse conditions.

    • @diver0129
      @diver0129 6 років тому

      Prepare2Survive I am surprised he didn't mention DAO autos in this video.

    • @diver0129
      @diver0129 6 років тому

      Lilac Tortoise I think they were mainly for police officers transitioning to semi-automatics from revolvers who wanted to keep the double action trigger pull on every shot. So yeah, I imagine they are a thing of the past. I doubt there are many police officers now days who were issued revolvers and even less of those desire DAO.

  • @EL-zd1ul
    @EL-zd1ul 8 років тому +1

    I'm so excited for this series you've started...I've carried a Snubbie for awhile and made the decision to start carrying a couple of different Da/Sa compacts last winter, mainly for capacity increase...The Px4 is one of the pistols I switched to. Thanks! Keep em coming! 🙂

  • @556poor7
    @556poor7 6 років тому +9

    There's a lot of us who just like a all metal gun too and with the exception of the HK P7 I can't think of an all metal striker fired handgun.

  • @czluver4338
    @czluver4338 8 років тому +46

    cz75 p01 is my primary carry

    • @NvaderRetro
      @NvaderRetro 8 років тому +1

      +cz luver Same here.

    • @johnbd05
      @johnbd05 7 років тому +2

      Cz 75 d pcr with CGW upgrades makes one great gun!

    • @skzion2
      @skzion2 6 років тому

      Same here!

    • @SCQT
      @SCQT 5 років тому

      CZC SDP all day every day

    • @lobo81865
      @lobo81865 5 років тому

      I carry the CZ 2075 Rami as mine.

  • @Wedelj
    @Wedelj 8 років тому +4

    I always get excited when a video from you comes up in my feed.

  • @viperstarbuck
    @viperstarbuck 8 років тому

    this channel is great. well thought out and very informative and I never feel talked down to. it's a refreshing change from the usual big channels

  • @ukaszKokoszkiewicz
    @ukaszKokoszkiewicz 7 років тому +2

    I have my gun permit for like 2 months (I'm from Poland BTW, awesome channel man!). I was thinking for quite some time on what handgun I want as my first one. I shot glock 17, CZ 75 and few others so I had some experience and my priority from the beginning was not to shoot myself and all the logics said to me DA/SA with the decocker. I just feel confident with that long and heavy DA trigger pull. I didn't want DA/SA with safety as carrying gun cocked doesn't feel natural to me. Anyway, everything you are saying in this video is true and I have to say I don't understand that so few people are going towards striker fired pistols this days. I'm new to shooting and I love my DA/SA decooker gun. I feel safe and, to be honest, doing some good progress with DA/SA trigger control as well.

  • @TheBurneezy
    @TheBurneezy 7 років тому +4

    Currently carrying a SW 5906, I feel most confident in it's safety and accuracy. Works great.... for me.

  • @PoeOutdoors
    @PoeOutdoors 7 років тому

    Great video, I believe there are a lot of fundamentals to be learned by shooting DA. There was a time I tinkered with the DA/SA and bought an inexpensive Sig 2022. It was too easy to throw it aside and shoot the striker-fired guns so I sold the 2022. I just picked up a very nice used HK USP Compact and have decided to dedicate myself to becoming a better shooter with the DA. Now that I have my mind right about it I really like it, especially carying appendix

  • @Me2Lancer
    @Me2Lancer 8 років тому +1

    Enjoyed the post. I consider the DA/SA disadvantages, an advantage. Functionality is similar to my .357 7 round revolver. My PT 92 is one of the best shooters I have.

  • @ychsyute
    @ychsyute 8 років тому +1

    i just switched back to double action from a glock 19, striker fired is great but i consider myself a pretty advanced shooter and i wanted to master a more challenging trigger and now i love it. The CZp07 is what i switched to.

  • @todd5198
    @todd5198 4 роки тому +1

    It shocks me that people even like the squishy feel of a striker fired pistol.
    I own one for the simple fact that the p365 is smaller than a TDA.
    The less a trigger has to move between the time you decide to shoot and the time the sear breaks, the less the trigger finger can move the sites off target.

  • @guitaoist
    @guitaoist 6 років тому +4

    i love my P226, that first shot should be double action so you can rest your finger on the trigger, not an option for striker fired weapons.

  • @SirRichardBear
    @SirRichardBear 7 років тому +6

    Personally I like the double action and much prefer it over striker fire

  • @vnohelix
    @vnohelix 6 років тому +2

    The "safety" yet immediate readiness of a de-cocked DA/SA pistol is invaluable to me and I will keep buying them as long as they are offered.

  • @mauricemaurice123
    @mauricemaurice123 8 років тому

    I own 3 handguns currently, Sig P229,P232, and P220 I love DA/SA pistols. Cant wait for your follow up video!

  • @SideStory-sy8xv
    @SideStory-sy8xv 8 років тому

    I've found myself doing the same thing this year. Not only moving away from striker fired but polymer as well. I bought a CZ 75 SP 01 tactical and then a CZ 75 P 01. Also subbed.

  • @BrokeBoy912
    @BrokeBoy912 4 роки тому +1

    Love the Sccy Cpx-2 no decocker stright DAO.

    • @kelseyrainwater3918
      @kelseyrainwater3918 4 роки тому

      I don't understand the trigger reset i can't hear any reset

  • @vulpixgrant
    @vulpixgrant 8 років тому

    The pistol I shoot best is a SA/DA Taurus PT-845 in .45acp. IT's the first SA/DA semi auto I ever owned, and I really like it despite some teething issues. Recoil is no worse than my 9mm S&W M&P 9c and in my hands it is very accurate. I shoot within a 1.5" pattern at 7 yards with it, peppering a bulls eye, something none of my Striker pistols can do. Love it, even CCW it on occasion in the winter when I wear a coat.
    Teething issues were if I did a chamber check (Like I always do when picking up a gun) pulling the slide back a 1/4 inch or so it would physically disconnect the trigger from the gun! Pulling the trigger was a no go, and even manually pulling the hammer back it was still disconnected. I had to rack the slide fully back to get it to function again. It took me several range trips to figure out what was going on with it. I got in contact with Taurus and they said it would take a month to fix, I explained how I had been carrying it where if I needed it the thing would not function and they had it fixed in 5 days lol. Somebody had put a 9mm or 40s&w trigger pin in it when assembled and was not long enough to keep the firearm functioning properly. Since fixed it's been perfect.
    Taurus, I love em and hate em at the same time. Almost all of them go back for service at least once, but the ones I get that function usually out shoot my better guns WTF?

  • @leonuug
    @leonuug 8 років тому +3

    My first fun was the S&W 910. After 16 years, still not even one issue. Way too big for conceal and yes, that SA is a scary hair trigger. Looking forward to your next video.

    • @leonuug
      @leonuug 8 років тому +1

      *That was supposed to say first gun.

  • @ssn711
    @ssn711 6 років тому

    Informative and a few great pearls of wisdom provided within. Well done, Thanks

  • @whiplash8277
    @whiplash8277 4 роки тому

    Six of my 12 semi-auto's fit this category, from my DP51, Ruger, Bersa and CZ's. I love 'em!

  • @calexander230
    @calexander230 8 років тому +2

    I bought an HK45 specifically for the double action. I love it.

  • @arnoldinshorts
    @arnoldinshorts 8 років тому +11

    I like DA/SA the de-cocker is natural to me and it just feels safer to me when re-holstering holding my thump on the hammer.

  • @freedom978
    @freedom978 8 років тому +1

    you are correct when saying DBL action was the answer to carrying a 1911 in the fire mode with a single safety; now DBL action is the nore used and sold. having said that i rather carry a DBL action over single unless i carry my S&W model 19-4"
    and then i say anyone that does not know or understand how a DBL acton works? should not own a hand gun.

  • @notimportant7508
    @notimportant7508 8 років тому

    Decently new channel, but I love it so much. I have got to subscribe. Great job on your video editing, and graphic design.

  • @areyouready22
    @areyouready22 8 років тому

    Great video.....very informative and well done.

  • @mozzberg590
    @mozzberg590 8 років тому +4

    Can't wait for this series of videos.

  • @RockawayCCW
    @RockawayCCW 6 років тому

    Totally agree. The recent debacle with the Sig p320 has made me reconsider carrying striker-fired pistols. I went back to my old Kel-tec p32 while I research and figure out what gun to go with.

  • @bobbycooke8974
    @bobbycooke8974 8 років тому

    Can't wait for your great input on this subject! Thanks for the great videos!

  • @propdoctor21564
    @propdoctor21564 4 роки тому

    This is still my preferred method of Fire Control and while I also own striker-fired pistols I only carry double-action autos like the Beretta 92fs and CZ 75...
    Recently when Springfield Armory came out with their new compact double action XDE I bought one in 9 mm and one in 45 and love them.... For .380 I carry the original Ruger LCP,, Smith & Wesson Bodyguard,,, or Remington RM380.... For sub compact 9mm its either the original Ruger LC9 or the Sig Sauer P290RS.

  • @williamprince1114
    @williamprince1114 8 років тому +2

    My first handgun purchase was a S&W 3906. Your intro certainly made me feel old.

    • @stevendrew5480
      @stevendrew5480 8 років тому

      Mine was a S&W Model 39-2, 9mm, still one of my all time favorites. I feel ancient.....

  • @orygunpatriot1342
    @orygunpatriot1342 8 років тому

    Great video📹. Looking forward to the next one👍😎

  • @TopDog8762
    @TopDog8762 8 років тому +5

    At first I was suspect of the title of this video. Profanity! Absurdity! I thought in the back of my mind. I am a huge CZ fan. A Cajunized (or other method tuned) CZ will blow away any striker fired gun. So it will be with great anticipation I look forward to the next video on the advantages of DA pistols.

    • @JAllenKaiser
      @JAllenKaiser 8 років тому

      +ScrewYouTwice I completely agree. CZ75 is my favorite 9mm, and the one I shoot most accurately.

    • @TopDog8762
      @TopDog8762 8 років тому

      +J Allen Kaiser I forget to mention that the video was just a tad misleading. Not all double action pistols have decockers, all of the CZ's can be found with a safety or decocker. And the Omega trigger line on the P07 and P09 allow you to switch between safety and decocker.

    • @LuckyGunner
      @LuckyGunner  8 років тому +1

      +ScrewYouTwice If I included all of the unique case issues presented by the special snowflake CZ75 and its derivatives, I'd have to double the length of these videos.

    • @TopDog8762
      @TopDog8762 8 років тому +1

      +Lucky Gunner Ammo True, it would be a lot. Just consider that comment a friendly poke in the eye. I will be silent now and set in the corner.

    • @skzion2
      @skzion2 6 років тому

      Lucky Gunner Ammo Special snowflake?! Didn't you decide to carry the P01? :)

  • @MrZonacat1
    @MrZonacat1 8 років тому +21

    I agree with this video. Problem is, some of the newer striker fired pistols have triggers that are so good that they simulate some of the double-single action firearms in the single action mode. I worry that some are approaching the point of being somewhat unsafe due to the shorter light trigger pull. I definitely am not an expert on these guns but I wonder how much lighter the triggers should get. Thanks for another fun and informative video. Please keep them coming.

    • @LuckyGunner
      @LuckyGunner  8 років тому +5

      +MrZonacat1 I think you're right. I'll be getting into that more next week.

    • @jobejahova
      @jobejahova 8 років тому

      +MrZonacat1 I have felt the same way about this. When I hear someone put a 3 lbs trigger in their Glock, I wonder if they even carry it chambered.
      SCCY is very promising to me since it is DOUBLE ACTION ONLY and you have to deliberately pull that trigger to discharge a round. Plus the trigger feels the same (or close enough lbs-percentage-wise) for each pull. Plus, it allows an infinite number of secondary strikes on the round.
      On the other hand, something like the Taurus TCP is considered double action only, but technically, the hammer/striker is halfway cocked for you after racking the slide. To me, that is not DA or SA. That is Half Double Action if I had to call it anything. It's better than SA without a safety, but I still like the Sccy DAO way better.
      If only more carry pistols had the same action design as Sccy. If someone cannot handle a Sccy trigger, something is wrong with them. I don't need a 3-4 lbs trigger pull to be on target, even if my efficiency was at 30%.

    • @BrokeBoy912
      @BrokeBoy912 8 років тому

      true double action only

    • @mdoe8
      @mdoe8 8 років тому

      MrZonacat1 the Kahr is a fantastic example of this, I like their triggers. Smooth a double action-ish.

    • @abc456f
      @abc456f 7 років тому

      mdoe8 Yes indeed. Recently got a kahr cm9 and feel more comfortable pocket carrying it with the long double action-ish trigger. But it is very smooth.

  • @michaeld622
    @michaeld622 8 років тому

    As always another great video man! You're adding subscribers super fast too; rightfully so. It's funny... I have been shooting for about 16 years now and started with DA/SA. At first when my father introduced me to strikers I didn't care for them very much because I didn't trust the firing mechanism. I was just "set in my ways" was all haha... but now I own several of both styles and prefer carrying striker nowadays. Take care dude!

  • @Jumpnjackflashisagas
    @Jumpnjackflashisagas 5 років тому +2

    It might be easier to train on a striker gun, but under stress its easier to have an accidental discharge. A DA/SA with a heavy first pull is much safer.

  • @mkshffr4936
    @mkshffr4936 4 роки тому

    I started shooting in the 1960 when Dad taught me to shoot with his H&R 999 Sportsman. If I ever get a semi-auto it will be a DA/SA. I like the flexibility and safety of the DA/SA and the resemblance to revolvers are familiar.

  • @timbingen4772
    @timbingen4772 8 років тому

    My first sem-automatic pistol was the Colt Commander. I got used to flipping the safety up if I didn't empty the mag. I now have a CZ P07 which I love. It feels like a Colt in my hand, and I still flip the safety up when I don't finish the mag. I guess it is what you are used to. I carry it hammer down in double action but if I had time would thumb the hammer back. It's ingrained in my memory. I used to thumb the hammer back on my double action revolvers for years........but then I wasn't in a gunfight where I would have just drawn and shot double action.

  • @carryeveryday910
    @carryeveryday910 4 роки тому

    Starting to love it. Got an FNX-45 Tactical and it’s just clean. Definitely feels really nice in the hand and operation of the firearm.

  • @bigghoss762
    @bigghoss762 8 років тому

    I celebrated my 21st birthday by buying my first handgun, a Ruger P95dc. I carry a striker gun now but decock-only DA pistols will always have a place in my heart. I still have the P95 and a W. German Sig P220 and I've been kinda wanting a PX4 and an M9a3.

  • @daltondunn7856
    @daltondunn7856 8 років тому +2

    I carry a double action semiauto everyday and couldn't be more comfortable/ happy with my choice in a CCW gun.

  • @paulscountry456
    @paulscountry456 5 років тому +1

    Striker triggers are just horrible for target work, but they have good advantages for safety and simplicity...good for defence and duty for sure.

  • @jkellyid
    @jkellyid 5 років тому

    I think the major issue today is everyone wants to be an operator and for whatever reason striker fired is how you are supposed to achieve this. All criticisms be damned. I think if you took the top tier striker fired guys and put any gun in their hands and put them through the reps they'd be amazing regardless.
    Your channel is the most informative on youtube.

  • @kevinyokotake9669
    @kevinyokotake9669 8 років тому

    omg the last 5 seconds got me so excited. Chris Baker switches to DA/SA!!! cant wait to find out what it is. Guessing px4 compact? or better yet the new px4 compact carry?? O.o

  • @Eastwood007x
    @Eastwood007x 6 років тому +7

    Rise (and fall??????). I still carry one. Love them, a lot.

  • @Hidden_Destinations
    @Hidden_Destinations 4 роки тому +1

    TDA all the way. I am used to the double to single transition and the decocker coming off target is automatic for me. I want that long first trigger pull, I find it much safer. My only striker is a Ruger LCP - but even that requires pulling the hammer back the remaining distance so it feels like a DA.

  • @CWB1863
    @CWB1863 8 років тому

    I have no issues with DA/SA firearms, they just take a little time getting used to.Especially in my case, where i learned on striker fired handguns first.I just feel more comfortable with SF guns.Good video!

  • @nuance2317
    @nuance2317 8 років тому +2

    Prefer decocker DA/SA pistols for a number of reasons. Started with revolvers so I like to think my trigger finger is used to a DA pull. Still carry revolvers on occasion. Would rather pull a first shot DA than go to a safety then trigger when carrying a pistol. Agree re light SA triggers. FWIWI like to ride the hammer with my thumb when re-holstering, gives me a little peace of mind.
    looking forward to your next video

  • @nervepain7972
    @nervepain7972 4 роки тому

    Just found this video. I carry a taurus judge revolver and series 92 9mm pistol. I have one arm and it makes it difficult to rack a strike fire weapon. The double action triggers work well for me.

  • @derekquizon748
    @derekquizon748 8 років тому +3

    Interesting topic that doesn't get discussed often. I'm guessing the follow-up shots in SA are easier to put on target quickly -- once you get used to that first shot. I'm a striker person by default (it's just far more common now), but I'm intrigued by DA/SA guns like the PX4 and the CZ-75, and would like to get one at some point.

  • @MiguelHernandez-rw4xu
    @MiguelHernandez-rw4xu 4 роки тому

    Insightful video

  • @pootinplays
    @pootinplays 3 роки тому

    after falling in love with my buddies m9 I just picked up a px4 compact carry and will be training that for my EDC

  • @SingleCoilVoodoo
    @SingleCoilVoodoo 8 років тому +2

    Awesome topic! ...as the 229 Legion is screaming my name on a daily.

    • @LuckyGunner
      @LuckyGunner  8 років тому +1

      +Philip Craig They're pretty sweet.

  • @hollywood84660
    @hollywood84660 8 років тому +1

    The first handgun I shot was a beretta m9 at the shooting range then I switched to a Kimber 1911 and then I went back to shoot the m9 I thought it was on safety because the trigger pull felt like it took forever to fire lol but I love them both. :-)

  • @davidtatelo
    @davidtatelo 8 років тому

    I have subscribed to your channel, shame on me for no doin it long ago. This has to be one of my favorite gun channels, along the likes of Hickok45 or TheYankeeMarshal. And probably the most informative of them all.

    • @davidtatelo
      @davidtatelo 8 років тому +2

      l know that you would not agree with TheYankeeMarshal in almost anything, nor do i and its still one of my favorite channels... weird.

    • @Lexicologist71
      @Lexicologist71 3 роки тому

      The Yankee Marshal is entertaining. If you want information, you have to watch some Paul Harrell. He is an excellent teacher and is hilarious when you learn to recognize when he is cracking a joke.

  • @Blaydrnnnr
    @Blaydrnnnr 8 років тому

    I posted on your other video, should have been here maybe. I have several weapons, and am currently trying to figure which I want asmy daily carry. The Sig P320 is DA/strker, the HKP2000SK is DA/SA I believe,... my M&P40C is striker, My Sheild is striker, my CZP07 is DA/SA, my Beretta M96 is DA/SA, my Taurus PT100 is the same, DA/SA. The Beretta and Taurus are not in consideration right now as carry weapons, and I prefer to carry chambered, AIWB. Problem is, wearing AIWB, the strikers have me just a bit more nervous then a decocked DA/SA. Any thoughts?

    • @LuckyGunner
      @LuckyGunner  8 років тому

      +Blaydrnnnr my advice would be to carry the one you can shoot the best and still reasonably conceal. Pick another one of the same action type to be your backup/practice gun. Sell all the others and buy a bunch of ammo and magazines and go to a 2 day shooting class with a reputable instructor. Then you're well on your way to B.A.M.F. status.

  • @Grossman77
    @Grossman77 4 роки тому

    I love your channel. Not a lot of guys talking extensively about DA/SA guns today

  • @makeintoschu
    @makeintoschu 3 роки тому

    There are also DA/SA pistols with a safety and without a decocker - e.g. CZ 75. Striker fired pre-cocked system is for concealed carry is so popular in my opinion beacause you don't have a safety/decocker lever and an external hammer which add to bulkiness.
    For sporadic carry I have a HS H11, for fun at the range - CZ Shadow 1.

  • @kevinkebede-berhanu954
    @kevinkebede-berhanu954 6 років тому

    Chance we can get a review of the XD-e? Really appreciate your approach and wanted to hear what you think about the trigger on it

    • @erichebel3142
      @erichebel3142 6 років тому

      Yes, can you please do a review of the Springfield XD-E. I am very interested in this gun as my first carry gun.

  • @silverbackgorilla2112
    @silverbackgorilla2112 4 роки тому +1

    Fall? My last 3 brand new pistol purchases... HK P30, CZ 75 SP-01 Phantom, CZ 75 P-01 Omega

  • @alexoelkers2723
    @alexoelkers2723 7 років тому

    I own a Smith And Wesson 39-2 One of the first American made semi-automatic DA/SA and its by far my favorite gun.

  • @ikocher
    @ikocher 8 років тому

    I haven't gotten to them yet but the CZ P09 and the FNX 9 are on my list to go with my 226R and CZ P-01.

  • @mscar8024
    @mscar8024 8 років тому

    I used to carry an FNP9 for years. It was my go-to gun and I still love it. No safety, just DA/SA with a decocker. Used and abused that pistol, and just sold it to a friend a few months ago. If I could buy it back without my wife murdering me in my sleep I would. The only way I could get a new gun was to sell one, and the 1911 wasn't going to be it.

  • @DWbodhi
    @DWbodhi 8 років тому

    Great video as always!

  • @kimdotnet2110
    @kimdotnet2110 7 років тому +5

    So when he says "double action," he's talking about DA/SA, right? Just a tad confusing at first, though he's probably using correct terminology and I'm just used to hearing it different.

    • @LuckyGunner
      @LuckyGunner  7 років тому +13

      In the context of semi-auto pistols, the term "double action" is typically understood to be synonymous with DA/SA, also called "traditional double-action". Double-action only pistols are almost always referred to as "double action only" or DAO, although depending on the context, "double-action" could occasionally refer to both DA/SA and DAO pistols.

  • @skipboyer1889
    @skipboyer1889 2 роки тому

    Question: in many military and PD they required their SA pistols to be carried in Condition 3. Did they do the same with the M9?

  • @allanh3865
    @allanh3865 4 роки тому +1

    Seriously BIG EYE ROLL here.
    Yes, the initial trigger pull on a DA/SA is a hard pull compared to the follow up shots, but it's not that big of a deal to learn/manage 2 different trigger pulls. One thing I am noticing with all of these types of videos is they seem not to understand that with a DA/SA you don't have to always use the heavy DA trigger pull for your first shot. Unless you are in an immediate close up threat situation, you can pull the hammer back, and have the first round be from the lighter SA setting. Which is similar in trigger pull to firing a 1911. Next, the decock is not a big deal to get into the habit of doing. I do think that striker fired pistols have their place in the shooting world, especially for those people who don't routinely go to the range. But for myself, I like the flexibility of trigger pulls that the DA/SA pistols allow me to have.

  • @theBarzeen
    @theBarzeen 8 років тому

    Although I do own a Glock, I'm definitely in the DA/SA crowd. Both my CZ and my HK carry guns are DA/SA. When practicing from a holster I like the added ( maybe just perceived) safety of being able to keep my thumb on a lowered or half-cocked hammer when going back in to a holster and the SA trigger (especially on the CZ) is sweet.

  • @Pickle312
    @Pickle312 8 років тому

    I learned on a DA/SA, the Beretta M9/92. Now I own a Sig P938 as well. Pretty different guns, but that's what I learned on. and I'm 21.

  • @Nick-wn1xw
    @Nick-wn1xw 4 роки тому

    The DA/SA may not CURRENTLY be as popular but it sure hasn’t “fallen.” Just takes more practice and that’s something too many people are unwilling to do. Like you I have come back to them after using striker fired pistols for several years.

  • @robertallen6701
    @robertallen6701 Рік тому

    I learned to shoot on old school single action revolvers. Pulling the hammer back has always been second nature to me. I have a DA/SA semiauto .380 I sometimes carry, and when I fire it, I almost never fire it double action. I still prefer an old fashioned wheelgun, though. Someone who didn't learn to shoot like a Western cowboy might prefer the first shot being DA.
    I also have a Colt Peacemaker clone in .357 Mag with a birdshead grip and 3" barrel, and that gun gets carried as much as the .380.

  • @SilverStarHeggisist
    @SilverStarHeggisist 8 років тому +1

    I love my FNP45 double/single action

  • @bobby398
    @bobby398 8 років тому +2

    Did we just become best friends? I made the transition from striker to DA/SA here recently, shot a p229 legion and then found a p229 SAS which is phenomenal. Sig won me over and they are tanks and the trigger is not that hard to learn if you dedicate some practice time to it

    • @33Luger
      @33Luger 6 років тому

      Try a Sig P210, no need to learn a trigger at all and super accurate.

  • @rugershooter5268
    @rugershooter5268 5 років тому +1

    I gottaa dump my P-85, I just got a Bersa, dump it too, and I've been looking at the 92 or PX4....mostly 92 cause I really like the steel frame of my model 70

  • @robertglover1296
    @robertglover1296 3 роки тому

    The Bersa TPR9C and the Springfield XDe are both excellent DA/SA Pistols for Concealed Carry and I own both. If I’m the last man alive that carries a DA/SA pistol, that’s fine with me

  • @MrAwesomeglock
    @MrAwesomeglock 8 років тому

    What's the thinest DA/SA made? I like appendix care , and been thinking of switching from sticker fire to DA/SA. Have you had any experience with Sphinx SDP?

    • @LuckyGunner
      @LuckyGunner  8 років тому +2

      +MrAwesome glock The thinnest that I'm aware of would be the now-discontinued Smith & Wesson 3913 and 3914. For current production, you'd be looking at the Sig P239, but it's not particularly slim by today's standards.

    • @TheIntellectualSlacker
      @TheIntellectualSlacker 8 років тому +1

      +Lucky Gunner Ammo another option is the P225 whether is the police trade ins or the new production A1 models its about glock 19 size but standard P series SIG controls

  • @doghousedon1
    @doghousedon1 7 років тому

    I grew up with double action triggers and love them. As far as I'm concerned they are superior to striker fire and are nowhere near obsolete. I would not be comfortable going into battle with striker fire.

  • @expo2000000
    @expo2000000 8 років тому

    I still like the traditional DA pistol... i love the whole classic designs to them. Plus, it is more of the safety heavy first trigger pull for me and i like that Double strike for those damn hard primers. I regularly rotate my training between my glock 19, sw 627 and Cz75 for all uses; there is no one size fits all situation.

  • @bobby1970
    @bobby1970 4 роки тому

    For a house gun, I much prefer to have it single action only, and that's why I have a 1911. For carry, of course, double action, and for that, I use my CZ P09 sub compact.

  • @snaponsocksdotcom3360
    @snaponsocksdotcom3360 3 роки тому

    Love my Walther ppk-s ! So safe and accurate !

  • @LawlessNate
    @LawlessNate 8 років тому +1

    If someone watching this really don't know much about the topic, then they might have gone away with the impression that the first shot with a DA semi auto pistol is that the first has *must* be double action. If they are carried cocked and locked like a 1911, then the first shot will be single action.
    Also, I'm not so sure about having to de-cock the gun every time you're done firing. Wouldn't it be better practice to take your finger off the trigger, engage the manual safety, and holster the gun?

    • @LuckyGunner
      @LuckyGunner  8 років тому

      +LawlessNate Yes, the first shot with a traditional double action pistol *must* be double action, unless the user manually thumb-cocks the hammer first, or has not decocked the pistol after loading, neither of which I would recommend. If it can be carried cocked and locked like a 1911, then it's usually a single action pistol, not a double action. The exception would be the CZ75 and similar designs, which are kind of a hybrid of DA and SA.
      Regarding decocking, again, your suggestion would only apply to CZ75 type pistols. All other traditional double action pistols either don't have a safety lever at all, or they have a safety lever that also functions as a decocker.

    • @LawlessNate
      @LawlessNate 8 років тому

      Lucky Gunner Ammo The CZ 75 was the exact exception I was thinking of. I wasn't really going to say anything until I saw you include it on the list.

  • @corey8420
    @corey8420 Рік тому

    My first work gun was a Sig P220 made in West German, still have it. When we switched to Glock at first I could not qualify.

  • @thinman8621
    @thinman8621 3 роки тому

    Beretta and CZ make superb DA/SA pistols. SA trigger on these guns is notably better than striker fired triggers.

  • @jessitaylor4170
    @jessitaylor4170 8 років тому +4

    Please do a video on your PX4 Storm set up.

    • @LuckyGunner
      @LuckyGunner  8 років тому +7

      +Jessi Taylor Hold your horses, champ. It's coming...

    • @jessitaylor4170
      @jessitaylor4170 8 років тому

      +Lucky Gunner Ammo Thank you, I carry the full size version in 9mm, I had it converted to a G version and I had Trijicon HD Sights installed on it.

    • @jessitaylor4170
      @jessitaylor4170 8 років тому

      +Edwin Garcia Me2

    • @pitbull82
      @pitbull82 8 років тому

      +Edwin Garcia I just had these put on my edc/hd gun. What is it that you don't like about the Trijicon HD's? Just curious. My only complaint is they're sharp in the rear, and this made me buy a different (better, so not too much to complain about...) AIWB holster.

    • @LuckyGunner
      @LuckyGunner  8 років тому

      ***** You ain't lyin'

  • @bonoandlavin
    @bonoandlavin 7 років тому

    I used to be scared of DA. Until I got my first Ruger SR22. I am now looking forward to buy a Sig P250 next year.

  • @HighProStrategic
    @HighProStrategic 5 років тому

    Why did you not include the Best Double action/Single Action ? Walther P99 AS?

  • @paulfryejr2918
    @paulfryejr2918 4 роки тому

    Another interesting video.

  • @kmafdlmagotg8328
    @kmafdlmagotg8328 4 роки тому

    Like both of my PX4’s. Easy to shoot. Decocking is a plus.

  • @tamer1773
    @tamer1773 5 років тому

    I had the Sig 226 and then the 228 in DAO with no decocker. I always liked them, but the 228 had a better trigger pull while the 226 had a better trigger. I prefer a smooth trigger to a striated one, not that it's a big deal to change.