As many as it might take to stop a threat to my life. It is not, nor will it ever be, the government's nor anyone else's job to tell me how many rounds I might need to be able to defend myself should that need arise.
You won't know until after you need them. If you only need 1, great, but do you only want to carry 1 or 2 even? I have a G23 loaded with a factory G23 mag (13rnds) then an ETS G22 mag (16rounds) so with the 1 in the chamber I have 30 rounds on me. I also keep a spare G22 mag loaded in the car & a full box of ammo also, so if I am in my car or can get to it that's another 66 rounds.
No matter the topic, or whether he talks for five minutes, or if he talked for 50-hours straight, I dread, DREAD, knowing that every word he speaks is creeping that much closer to the point that, unfortunately, he's going to stop. Until the NEXT opportunity I have the honor and pleasure to hear him again, which is never soon enough. Mas, there are no words that I can express that shows the depth of my RESPECT and APPRECIATION for what you do. Regards, Sir. -David Innis.
It was about 2003 or 04 I did a real, detailed written threat assessment for myself and my location. I am a retired Army officer and spent a lot of time as a Strategic Planner at several 4-star commands, major Combatant Commanders. Threat assessments weigh heavily into writing plans and operations orders for large units. After being honest and doing this assessment, I determined my daily carry gun was not going to be a revolver any longer. This was not a fun task because I personally love revolvers. Yes, I grew up with 1911s both at home and in the Army prior to changing over to the M9. But this was later as I said. I needed to catch up with the times, i.e., the threat. It is now 2022. People must understand a few factors in threat analysis. Something can be very unlikely but the most dangerous. (a nuclear war for example). Also, something might be very likely but not as dangerous. As a planner I tried to zero in on the most likely and most dangerous threats for the commanders. We all need to think like this in order to evaluate our own situations. A farmer in rural Kansas vs a person living in Philadelphia will have a host of different criteria to make an evaluation. Myself? I live 60 miles from the Mexico border in South Texas! The threat here? I would love to take a minimum of a four-vehicle convoy with crew served weapons to go to town for groceries and have a platoon of infantry at the house every evening. It is my wife and I and our dogs, goats, chickens and some cows. My neighbors are all great people but they are not near by. Technology for security purposes is VITAL. My dogs are VITAL. My firearms are VITAL. This place is my Alamo. I will not leave. I am in it to win it. Illegal entrants are the threat. They are not friendly, hardworking Mexicans coming seasonally to work and earn money. Those are all already here or smart enough to see America looks too dangerous these days. My best advice? Watch Mas in all videos he is in. You will learn a lot. Also, the man has written quite a few books. Order them and read them. Here is the uncomfortable part. Train. Train with a purpose. Train like your life and your family members lives depend upon it. Strive to make things simple. The Army has battle drills for all weapons systems. These drills focus on learning how to get the weapon into action, the same way every time, how to reload it, clear it, and get back into action, the same exact way every time. The drills are done to the point it becomes "muscle memory". Become an expert marksman or as close as you can become. If a weapon is to be used for carry, home defense, a trunk or truck gun, master it. This is the hard part folks. If you have to fight, understand that it is not over until it is over. If in the fight get to gettin" as an old First Sergeant used to say. Get it done with a purpose. The martial aspect of it is only half the equation. The mental / emotional / spiritual side must be in order BEFORE any fight. If these last three are not solid in you as an individual, your chances are greatly reduced and your risk level just went up. I am not preaching. I am sharing. Lastly, your physical condition is important, regardless of age. I cannot run any more for physical training. I walk, ride a mountain bike, lift weights, and eat right, not perfect, but as best I can. I take supplements, i.e. a bunch of vitamins, beet root for blood pressure, and do not drink much. (yes, I like a cold beer once in a while). Start small and each week make yourself do better. It works. If you do not exercise trying to do too much too soon makes people quit. If you can do 1 push up each day this week, next week you do 2 per day, and so on. I keep my firearms clean and ready to go at all times. That is military habit I cannot dismiss. I challenge all the Patriots on this channel to assess your environment, assess the threat. Consider your skill level. Consider your fitness and diet. Keep or get in shape in the mental / emotional / spiritual realm. We are going to need each and every single one of you in the coming days. This country is not going to repair itself via how things are being done currently. Stay alert, practice situational awareness and danger area avoidance. God bless each of you and stay safe.
We have no clue who's in our country now. I stay in a lot of hotels for my job and one of them in east TX had border crossers living in the hallway of the hotel on my floor. Staying overnight with doors open and literally lying on the hallway floor at night drinking beer. No kidding. Its dangerous times of disappearing security.
As a retired cop I still carry my .40 cal with 1 in the chamber and a 15rd mag and 2 spare 15 rd mags as my minimum standard EDC. You need to be carrying enough ammo because you never know what you might run into. Stay safe guys!
@@soundped Thankfully while I have been shot at several times during my carrier before I was hurt in the line of duty and forced to retire and I did on numerous occasions have to draw my weapon I was never forced to fire a shot on patrol. This is due to various reasons, once because a crowd of people ran back and forth between me and the shooter as well as behind him as good of a shot as I am it wasn’t safe to return fire. Other times the shooter was inside their home and no clear shot was available. Officers are responsible for every single shot they fire (as they should be) so we must always evaluate the situation and be certain it is safe to return fire or at a bare minimum the risk of doing so is greatly outweighed by the risk to the public the shooter continues to pose. Now that said an Officer using more then a single 15 round magazine is not rare at all. People have this idea from TV & the movies that if you shoot a person they go down, in reality pistol ammunition is not all that deadly. Generally what kills you is going into shock, or blood loss over time if you don’t get treatment. And even if you do score a fatal hit which is much much harder in reality then everyone thinks that person doesn’t go down right away, they continue to pose a threat to everyone around them for several minutes or even longer. I spent most of my carrier in a rural area full of small towns then the last 2 years in a smaller city not like LA , NYC, or CHICAGO but even in that environment I responded to several scenes or was on site with an OIS (Officer involved shooting) in which the Officer had to reload his weapon. I can think of 5-6 that I was somehow involved in personally. Every situation is unique and different so I don’t think anyone can say it happens at (Blank) ratio. The real concern is ending up in a situation where you need the ammo and don’t have it. That is just about as bad as it can get and you are almost certainly going to die at that point. Because again despite what Hollywood tells everyone you are almost always on your own! You can yell for help on the radio and other Officers will desperately try to get to you as fast as we can but your backup maybe as little as 2-3 minutes out (absolutely forever in a gun fight) or as much as 10-15 minutes out. It will all be decided well before then! You must be trained, equipped, and prepared to hold your own until it is over or until help can get there and that can be a very very long time. I don’t like to watch them for obvious reasons but I’m sure if you looked you can find lots of videos on line of OIS’s. Anyway I hope this helps some at least. Take care!
how do you know 46 is enough? Why aren't you carrying 66? or 200? you really think you're going to engage committed armed attackers and the issue which decides the outcome is the number of rounds you have? You are unarmored. without armor you have precious LITTLE chance of surviving such an encounter
Mindset. Does not matter if you have a single stack 1911, a revolver, or a high capacity pistol. The most important thing is that you know what your carry piece can and cannot do. Train hard with it. Bring extra magazines or speed loaders. The more magazines or speed loaders, the better. Let us not forget the Browning Hi-Power who was, in my opinion, the most popular Wonder 9 before the Glock 17 came out. To quote Clint Smith: "Beware the man who only has one gun. He probably knows how to use it."
No disrespect intended toward Mr. Smith, but we've just heard a guy who I think all of us would agree "knows how to use it" and he is advocating for more capacity. That's good enough for me.
Dear Mas, I just had to comment again. Your teachings and advise is spot on. Been following your teachings for 40+ years. As a 33 yr. Police veteran, you have my deep respect🇺🇸
30 years ago I was serving as a deputy sheriff here in Texas. I ended up assisting a trooper who was chasing a stolen truck, whose three occupants had murdered a young couple and a 4:year old boy and 2 year old girl in the act of taking the truck. They exited the highway onto a dark farm to market road. Eventually they busted the gates and entered an unlit large cemetery. There was one way in and one way out, so we parked the troopers car across the entrance and he got in with me. In the back of the cemetery we found the truck, they had blown both front tires trying to hop the large curb. There was no lighting except for what we had, so we felt like targets. We stayed away from our lights as much as possible. I covered as the trooper moved up to clear the vehicle. I thought I saw movement to the left so I moved my focus to that area.. sure enough I saw a flash as the trooper activated his light. I double tapped the muzzle flash and something fell. I was about to ask if the trooper was ok when I saw another flash further right and felt an impact in the car, right beside me. I double tapped that flash as the trooper simultaneously fired two rounds at something I couldn't see, further behind him. Then it was quiet. We carefully moved up and found all three suspects DRT. The trooper had fired three rounds earlier in the action, to keep one of the suspects from grabbing a hostage. So a 90 mile chase and two shootouts, he fired 5 shots, resulting in one suspect DRT, and the event ended. I chased for about 28 miles, fired 4 shots, 2 suspects DRT. The trooper and I had served together on a SWAT team for 4 years prior to this event. I'm certain that the fact we had served and trained heavily together, and the SWAT training program- which is intense, when done properly, is the reason we were successful in the action , with no wasted resources or injured personnel. Which shows the incredible importance of training, and PROPER training. You MUST train like you fight. Live fire exercises and scenarios which differ from expectations are a life and death requirement. Too many departments think one box of ammo to practice with, then another on six month range day, and then the qualification, is more than enough. No structure, limited ammo , poor range equipment all end up creating cops who only THINK they're a good shot. This puts innocent bystanders at risk. Departments have to allow a budget that will provide officers with the skill set they need to do their job safely and efficiently. Civilians really need to increase their practice time, and be certain it is valuable practice. Enroll in some of the excellent programs you can find online. It will save your life someday and possibly others.
The training time the two of you did together probably was the biggest asset during that event. A few of us that frequently worked same shift but dif agency’s. We started training together at least once a month. One of the fellas was a reloader which helped keep the out of pocket expenses manageable. Every thing was out of our own pockets. My jaw hit the floor when you stated one or two boxes of ammo every 6months. That’s so 1990s.
@@Progen77 I don't know if it was appropriate here and I don't think about it much, but something Mass said made me think of it all of a sudden. You never know how a gunfight is going to go down, but based on my experience, there's no such thing as too many magazines or too much ammo or too much training. If it's there, take advantage of it.
@@devildog17013 aim for the pelvis. No matter how big/angry/drugged up an attacker is, he won't be able to do much if you explode the head of his femur.
that's right, you need to hit below the waist. also, the pelvic area has a main artery running down the inside of each leg. unless you are really lucky and you blow his Balls off! :)
But it happens. I know of a 2man team who got hung up in a large building full of tiny rooms made of camel shit and went through 9 15 rd. M9 magazines, plus part of a 10th, didn’t miss a single time, either. That was my entire load out and 1/2 my partners pistol mags. Oops, anyway- empty mags through my legs, loaded mags on the right shoulder… REALLY WANTED A Mk 18 at that moment- the 10.3” one … the AF issued GAU 5s- 14.5” XM-177s that had that long as…. It was long… so, that’s how a CCT team gets in deep shit cause sometimes they DO. This was 1991, BTW. No security element like a ranger stick or a STA squad. 2 spray painted tan YZ 490s, a laser designator the size the first VXR, 2 M9s, 2 carbines… no SOPMOD, yet… JSOC not SOCCOM. A mess. I can tell you for fact that a couple Mk18s, a couple M9s, some tanker holsters and as many mags as they could find, borrow, purloin - WTF EVER could be ditched- WAS. I’m just a story teller. Fact based fiction. Truth- NEVER TO MANY MAGS/ to much AMMO.
As I am old school (and old), this is a great video justifying the reasons for carrying more ammo. I love my wheel guns, but feel better now carrying my Glock 19 with 2 extra magazines. Thank you Mas! Also glad I live in a free state (Kansas).
@@primeministersinister625 The next LA riot. The next riot anywhere. A group of armed thugs. I'd rather have too many rounds and not need them all than have too few rounds and need more.
I was a cop in Chicago, I Just pulled the plug, my house is up for sale, when I started we had to buy a 4'' S&W, Colt or Ruger 38 or 357, I picked up a S&W MODEL 586, with 3 speed loaders, now I carry a Walther with 16 9mm rounds in the mag. and more then one magazine. . Feds use to say 7 yards 21 feet was the avg. shoot out ,now they say 40% of shootings are 5 to 8 feet.. I loved that 586 but THINGS CHANGE. Thanks for a great video
Oregon resident currently carrying a Walther PPQ M2 9MM (Winter carry) with a standard capacity mag on board with one in the chamber (15+1) and two spare high capacity (17) mags. Hope I never need more than one or two shots, but if I do, I've got 'em 😁 Always been a firm believer that it's better to have something and not need it, than to need something and not have it. Now let's see what happens with ballot measure 114...
Good luck with measure 114. Some legal battles now occurring. From what I saw and heard, every gun in Oregon was probably sold before the Dec.8th deadline. I saw where one dealer required appointments to get in the store. Crime will go up even higher esp. in Portland as I believe the intent is to simply stop all gun sales with the overly involved red tape and gate keeper State Police.
I hear that Salem Oregon around the DOJ building there are several SWAT vehicles and a MRAP, supposedly for several days now. I believe its because two cities just pissed off 90% of the state.
@@Ovokor pretty much. Lane county and the PDX Metro area. AND, I have spoken to several people, in person and on-line that voted yes on 114 but either didn't read the whole measure or didn't understand the ramifications of it passing.
I had a signed copy, loaned it to a student he went PCS and kept it. I resisted the temptation to find him and collect a pound of flesh… But it still on my list.
“Thanks Massad”..you’re a HUGE credit to not only WC’s program/channel, but a fantastic ‘go-to’ for virtually ALL things firearms..whether legalese info or firearm(s) specifics. Much appreciated!
Mas, I look forward to yours, Bill Wilson's, Ken Hackathorn's, and all the other illustrious Firearms & Tactics trainers videos & training , that has saved countless innocent Civilian & LE lives Worldwide, along with their bank accounts & Freedom. God Bless you Massad F. Ayoob, the E.P. Gail, your daughters C. & J., and your life's work. Stay safe brother, watch your six & stay frosty,phil🇺🇲🙏💙🍀👍
Should send this to every governor and attorney general's of every state and all of Congress .this testimony should be voiced to Congress and all federal and state officials . Thanks for the clear and concise information that government officials refuse to hear . 👍
When I first started we were issued S&W revolvers, then Colt 1911’s which everybody liked to S&W model 59’s which nobody liked. Six or seven shots on hand seemed to do the job. A six shot revolver saved my life one night.
I am a retired police officer, I carried a badge for 38 years and like you I started the force carrying a six shooter Smith and Wesson Mod. 10. Times have changed and I retired carrying a Glock with three 17 mags with 17 bullet capacity. Why? because on this border town I live almost all badguys carry high capacity guns. I agree with you in carrying high capacity magazines when you carry a gun. I agree with all your reasons for carrying high capacity magazines, because when you really need the weapon, you better have enough bullets in case of multiple threats. Kudos on your video, it is spot on.
From a California resident, thank you for making videos like this. When law-abiding Americans are being denied their Constitutional rights in ANY state, it is EVERY state's problem.
@@jaybizzle9038 meaning for Michigan originally I’m a palled at the way things are going there. I can’t believe you’re tired of a governor who is reelected after her horrible performance during Covid.
NYC has legal carry now after a 100yrs! never thought I'd see that day coming but we can now CARRY LEGALLY no matter what that pos faux-gov hochul does, the courts over-ride that bitch on the usual UNCONSTITUTIONAL TACTICS she's trying to pull WE THE PEOPLE ARE WINNING THIS FIGHT AND THANKS TO REAL POTUS DONALD TRUMP THAT MADE IT HAPPEN
Thanks so much. I don't like the fact that we need to carry more ammo but the fact is we do. I always carry a spare mag with an additional 13 rounds for my Shield Plus and it's simply a good habit to have. Again, times change and I appreciate your sound advice.
I would carry at least two or three mags, you just never know? and it would be terribly lousy to wish you had more ammo instead of saying wow I had enough!
I keep a mag of AP, AP, HP series, a mag of HP, AP, HP series, a mag of hot loaded AP. If i'm down to that the other ammo wasn't cutting it. Two AP for car windshield, followed by HP for drivers head works for me when practicing. The hot AP after DC Navel Yard shooting. Only safe fire position is floor below shooting through the ceiling into killer on floor above covering your exit..
@@robertsmith2956 Wow, you need a L.A.W. and some frags and possibly a do yourself in vest just in case. Obviously a bit of dark humor on your part. Let's pray it is.
@@billhoppe2991 My AA gun will do just as well horizontally like a LAW, and have a better range. I have something better than frags. You have to do it yourself, they don't make kevlar carbon fiber laminates. Different guns, and different ammo for different jobs. You don't need to outrun popo radio as long as you outgun any dumb enough to listen to it. The 2nd Amendment was written to protect yourself FROM the government. As clinton said, I am an army of one.
Thank you sir for your excellent perspective on the unfortunate progression of violent crime in the United States over the past 40 plus years. I started my law enforcement career in 1975 and agree with everything you stated. Fortunately, many Americans have decided to carry now and I'm very glad they have. Notwithstanding the issues of what type of firearm should be carried and the number of rounds, at least people they have decided to be armed and (hopefully) not be a victim. Please keep your videos coming. They help us all. Respectfully, Greg
Wish I could afford one! That is sweet! Been reading your articles since I was in my teens. I have now been retired from a large LEA for ten years. Started as an officer, retired as an administrator. Didn’t strive to promote it just kind of happened. I continue too value your knowledge and experience today. Thank you sir! God bless!
More rounds are better for sure, but comfrot trumps capacity for me personally, so I normally carry whatever the original mags allow. If I were a cop and/or had a daily job that required me to carry I'd probably rethink all of this, but just a typical guy working a non lethal job in normal circumstances capacity is way down on my list of pros vs cons:)
Massad Ayoob I took a class from you and Ray Chapman when I was a. Active duty Police Officer in Salt Lake City UT. I worked in Arizona and I am retired. I still carry everyday. Even though I am retired I train as often as possible. At the training I got from you Captain you said if I had a situation and needed backing you guys would assist is this still available if ever needed. I think my AzCop or FOP would back me just asking if you still back me up, I train with you on the platform your on now. I am proud of the in person training I had with you and Chapman. God bless, please you guys keep the training from Wilson Combat up. Training never stops responding to situation for not either just don't get dispatched. LOL. Thank you for the on line training.
I’m in illinois and we are about to go thru more attacks on our second amendment rights. Thank you Mr Ayoob and Mr Wilson for putting these important videos out and educating people properly about why our rights are so important.
I don't want to sound like a jerk, but if you asked a car dealer for a comparison of the fuel efficiency of a Toyota Camry hybrid and a Charger with a HEMI engine and he replied, "They both have _standard_ and _regular_ efficiency." I don't think you would be pleased with that answer.
On point, professionally presented as we have come to expect from one of best experts in the business. Well done sir. Your expetience and wealth of knowledge is invaluable and much appreciated.
Thanks Mas. My primary carry gun is still my large heavy six shot revolver. It size and weight necessitate (IMO) a shoulder holster. My draw even though frequently practiced with laser cartridges and the Mantis app is glacial compared to even my very small auto in an appendix holster. Sometimes it is just hard for us older shooters to give up our old favorites that have brought us much comfort in the past. Seeing you here, is lighting a fire under me to change with the times.
I grew up with revolvers. I don't carry a revolver anymore. It's never too late to change unless you've fired those five or six rounds in that revolver while the bad guy has a 17 round magazine Glock 17 and lots of rounds left.
@@AlaskaErik Thanks. I have carried four different autos over the last 35 years or so, so it is not that I don't have experience with or interest in them (my first edc was a 6906 back around '88). It is mostly that civilian on civilian gun fights are as rare as whale feathers where I live and from watching sources like ASP it sure looks like vanishingly few civilian gun uses are require more than 6 shots. Of course, it is a risk to not have shots 7-21, but after much study and contemplation I suspect that it is less than getting hit by lightning.
As a retired police officer (1974-2016)and firearms instructor/ instructor trainer in early 80’s I agree that there is need for high capacity magazines and pistols. From watching numerous gunfights on UA-cam, and being involved in two gunfights in my career. What is missing in officers firearms training is fire control and shot placement . The average tactic I’ve seen in the most videos is the “spray & pray”. My first gunfight was in October of 1985 was with a wanted cartel member in Miami. He was armed with a full auto MAC 10 and opened fire from his residence as we hit the door. I was armed with a model 29 44 S&W 6 shot and two speed loaders, at the end of the battle the subject was neutralized using fire control, shot placement and tactics. I’m not saying that police don’t need the high capacity pistols and magazines they are issued in today’s policing climate. However using fire control , shot placement and tactics can enhance the benefits and use of the high capacity equipment. Thank you.
@@Sheepdog1314 15 yards is the estimated distance the head-shot was made by Jack Wilson in the Texas church. One shot stop. When you practice and practice and practice, better things can happen.
NYS resident here.. My closest store (a little country store with a gas pump).. SIX and half miles away. Closest police station, Cooperstown, approx., 17-20 miles away. I know and have lived in BOTH the countryside, dairy farms, as well as several cities, Albany, Utica, Schenectady, (Oneonta, if it can be considered a city).. But, there's NO ONE size fits all living circumstances in NYS, so it SHOULD be mathed in, that a "ONE size fits ALL" law.. Neither SAFE or EFFECTIVE... Thank you Massad@WilsonCombat
That you for another thoughtful and informative video. I've been practicing failure to stop drills every range trip for a coupe of years now, and never leave home without at least one spare magazine; for two of my EDC options I carry two spares.
If I get in a gunfight I don't want a high capacity magazine. I want the movie magazine that never runs out! If I'm defending my home just build a pipeline from the ammo Factory to my gun and send me everything!
I started reading Mr. Ayoobs articles in gun magazines since the early 80s, when i first started using guns for self defense. Now im almost 60 and his advice couldnt be more logical, and focused. Responsible gun ownership is what this country needs. He can see all sides of the issues, he keeps us life long gun enthusiasts from making severe mistakes. We're lucky to have this guy around .
Very informative video. Sometime, could Mas do a video on different bullet grains in 9mm and .45acp, and their advantages/disadvantages for defensive applications? Its something I think about especially during winter when people and animals put on more layers. Thanks!
My present New York City carry package is the PSA 5.7 with three 23 round magazines, 1 in the chamber for a total of 70 rounds. When in Florida the barrel is changed to threaded and it gets fitted with hearing protection.
Excellent video. Many departments don't object to how many extra magazines you carry as long as department ammunition is used. My husband is a law enforcement agent. He is not a local law enforcement person. They are allowed to carry many approved weapons including their own rifles once approved. This is an excellent video ful of actual facts. God bless 🙏 God bless the founding fathers 🙏👌🙏
I began with revolvers and was there when the switch to 9mm Simi-Auto pistol began. I quickly learned that if you might get into a gun fight, that I needed as much ammo as I could comfortably carry , and a long gun with ammo was even better.
In military combat I knew to carry as much ammo as possible Later as a police officer I was amazed that no one was carrying enough ammo for a fire fight with several bad guys . At that time in the late 60's there wasn't even a shotgun in each vehicle . We had to bring our own I'd we wanted one which l did . I have a bag with a rifle and shotgun and ammo in it . Some of the guys thought l was strange until one time when I got to back up some officers in a firefight. After that several officers started packing extra equipment . Today you can bet that I have extra ammo nearby . I have some 33 round mags in 9mm and a couple of 24 round ones in .45 caliber. My jeep is very well equipped. Back then we didn't have a swat team . Thankfully today there have been many changes . I enjoy your programs.
I agree on the number of people invading a home. In Australia there's a huge trend where gangs of people doing over your property. And just think in Oz we have absolutely no way to defend our family, ourselves or our property due to the strict gun laws here. And because of this the home invasions are spiraling out of control.
This is a great video, and Mas brings up great points. After giving it a lot of thought, there are some other things worth framing this question with. First, most violent offenders are *not* looking for a fight, they are looking for soft targets. This is why they target schools, nightclubs, women, and people who do not look like they can put up a fight. Therefore, I would wager that the majority of defensive uses of firearms start and stop with the intended victim presenting the means to defend themselves, and the willingness to use it. Ergo, the *majority* of the time, capacity is a non-issue. Arguably, just as important as capacity, if not more important, is training and experience. Mob violence and sophisticated violent assaults/ambushes are becoming more of a thing, however it might be a tad alarmist to talk about these things being commonplace, because they're generally not. I'm not suggesting that one should not prepare for that eventuality, or be okay with magazine bans. I'm just saying that each person should conduct a realistic threat/risk assessment, and plan accordingly. If you live in a city in a blue state, your threat assessment picture looks different from someone living in the rural countryside of a red state.
Hey Mas; great clip. Many, during the "carried ammo" debates, seem to neglect the reaity of magazine failures. They argue the round count and dismiss, or worse ignore, the magazine issue, Personally, I carry a S&W M&P9, chambered in 9X19, with the standard 17+1 in the gun and two, 22 round magazines, daily. When I've encountered a serious stopage, a new magazine is the quickest solutoion. My other EDC load-out is a S&W 4006, chambered in .40S&W, with standard 11+1 in the gun and two additional 11 round magazines. So I carry either 35 rounds of .40S&W (1990-2010) or 62 rounds of 9mm (2010-present). I think this is the change in mentality, based on the existing conditions, you spoke of in you clip. Thank you.
Earlier this year I was at a 7-11 in Las Vegas and some nut case probably drugged out, charged at me from behind while i was walking back to my car, And luckily I heard him coming so I spun around and placed my hand on the grip of my firearm, i doubt he was there to sell me some girl scout cookies... luckily for the both of us he stopped and started running back to his 'homie'. Gotta pay lots of attention to your surroundings these days.
Of all the "experts" on youtube, you make the most sense. I watch all your videos and your conclusions are well founded and based upon experience and logic.
As of 2022-2023, the states of Michigan, Illinois and Oregon have lost their gun rights to “assault weapon” and magazine bans. The Right which Shall not be Infringed has now been practically abolished in a large portion of the USA.
Also commie Washington State has recently gone to 10 round magazines. There are rifles I'd like to buy, but they only come with 1 ten round clip, for a 22lr, and you can't buy more in the store.
I carry a Kimber Ultra Carry II 45ACP. I only have my right arm, i replaced the original magazines with Willson Combat magazines, one 7 rds and two 8 rds magazines, I feel very comfortable because I can shoot very will with this gun. It fits like a glove, i have a Canik TP9SF, 4.5" Barrel. I have 4 18 rounds magazines, i vould carry it, but i feel much more confidence in my Kimber. If ever is a need for me to carry the high capasity Canik, then i will. For now the Kimber is my carrying gun. Thank for your wonderful video. Thumbs up every time.
AS ALWAYS MASOOD, YOU OFFER THE WELL REASONED AND AUTHORITATIVELY SUPPORTED ADVICE!! THANK YOU. MY CONCERN IS IN THE FACT THAT YOU NEED TO OFFER IT AT ALL!!! IT WOULD SEEM THAT UNLESS 98%OF OUR POPULATION ARE TROGLODYTES AND NEWS IGNORANT, THAT HIGH CAPACITY IS OR SHOULD BE A GIVEN. SIMILARLY, AS YOU POINTED OUT, 10 ROUND MAGAZINE LIMITS ARE FOLLY. WHO WOULD HONOR IT
I’m all for more rounds. I prefer the 45 to the 9, but that is a personal choice just like a lot of things. Say yes to more magazines and don’t take a knife to a gun fight.
@@jsasr, I’m not interested in a debate of 9mm or 45. Being hit by either is overrated. On that I agree. It is a personal preference and what you choose is up to each one to make.
If I had to choose, I'd carry a backup gun, rather than several extra magazines. That's called the "New York Reload." Mas even has a video demonstrating it: ua-cam.com/video/aUxYXwbP3nI/v-deo.html Two guns might also make good sense in the 10-round mag states.
What you say is true. What is your advice, from the view of us living in oppressed states. Previously, in the city that speaks 800 languages. I escaped a home invasion, and fought off, & or ran from different attacks. With age, I added a low capacity pocket pistol then OWB 9mm. Now I am in Seattle which can be a bit dicey. There are bullet holes on the outside of the Loft building where I live. Edgy is ok, if I am capable & prepared. Yes, more criminal groups not as many single attackers. It started here with two mostly and then three criminals. Now, my 15 round & my 16 round sidearms are limited to10. I carry a couple of extra mags, a decent 9mm pocket pistol. I train dry and at the range, love it. I am teaching my left hand to draw so maybe 2 OWB 9mm would be much faster than reloading? Concealability is an issue. Then there is the camera equipment for night street shooting or capturing images. Tactical light, always a knife tool. From 7 feet certain knives are lethal. Ok, I am unqualified and spinning off. I am vigilant, street smart, but just a "trained civilian" I am asking an expert. What do you suggest as a practical platform. No, I am not adding my 7lb "tactical" lever action, over my shoulder & no one tells me where and when to go out and about. Thank you for sharing your expertise. Maybe one day I will own a fine WIlson weapon.
Started reading your articles back about 1980 and have been a fan every since. I dont even go to get my mail without 15 rounds of 9mm in my pants!Thanks for another great video!
Just pulled a copy off my bookshelf of StressFire signed by Mas that I got right after it came out in the mid 80's. I also am looking at a copy of Fundamentals of Modern Police Impact Weapons. Both outstanding and still a good read.
One thing I learned from James Yeager (RIP Brother) was the reason for carrying spare magazines. It's NOT for capacity. The magazine is the least sturdy link in the chain of parts on the weapon. You carry a spare (or 2) for replacing a damaged or malfunctioning magazine. If you're carrying a Glock and need more than the 17+1 capacity, one of several things are true: you suck and need more training, you live in Ukraine, or you're a LEO in a shootout with a drug zombie that cannot feel pain and has absorbed all your rounds (based on a true case). I carry a 7 shot revolver in 357.
@@YEEYEE-dy8tk , Saying, "Police officers have to use more than 17+1 all the time." is the height of ignorance! "In fact, only about a quarter (27%) of all officers say they have ever fired their service weapon while on the job, according to a separate Pew Research Center survey conducted by the National Police Research Platform." Source: Pew Research
@@YEEYEE-dy8tk , You said, "Police officers"; implying ALL police officers. In any event, you have no data to back up your claim on the amount of rounds used.
When I came here from the UK people kept telling me I should have a 1911. My comment was “why would I want a piece of 100 yr old iron” well over 20 years I changed my mind. 1911 45ACP carries nice and flat. My other carry is a HiPower 9mm modified trigger loaded with 124gr NATO. Another steel gun. I think in a stress situation heavy piece makes a difference. Now I do have a M&P9 2.0 with upgraded seat and Truglo sights and at 25yds I can take head shots easily on the range. As a civilian that seems unlikely. At 10 yds the 1911 with basic sights works well for follow up headshots after the first point-shoot center of mass. At 30 feet in a fast moving situation who has time for sights. PS I hate add on lasers and red dots for a carry gun. Too much stuff! PPS I do have a folding M&P carbine with 3 23rd magazines in the car I could fight my way to!
Massad, another thought-provoking video filled with common sense. Sadly, common sense evades the mindset of many elected officials who author and pass legislation. I am blessed by God to live in a constitutional carry State. If you are a civilian who carries concealed the firearm typically is smaller so the "print" under your clothing does not telegraph. That changes the magazine's capacity. I'm an old retired Army E8 - Airborne, Infantry, and Aviation background with a tour in Vietnam so I understand your position on enough rounds.
had a friend who was a Kansas Highway Patrol officer, He told some of us about a traffic stop. The car was erratic in the lane. They pulled over and all 4 doors opened. He grabbed his shotgun and left his sidearm on the seat. The driver absorbed 8 12 Gauge shells at one car length range. The passenger went down on the first shot, the guys in the back seat ran from the scene. The autopsy showed the driver with a near fatal amount of hard drugs ( he would not tell us exactly with ones he had) and he had 6 or 8 buckshot in the muscle of his heart and both lungs were perforated. The driver had a handgun with a 25 round magazine, the front passenger had a "large capacity" mag, but missed with his first shot, went down before he could fire a second shot. His advice was always carry more ammo than you think you need, it can be dangerous "out there"
I conceal carry a FN509 full size tactical 24+1 with 2 extra 24rd mags. Stream light tlr1HL, holosun507 green dot. All comfortable in a Jansport style Fanny pack chest rig setup. Backup in the wasteband is my North American arms 22 mag revolver with holster grip. The last 10 years my everyday carry has been a colt mustang pocket lite .380 6+1 plus 1 extra mag.
Good timing. My state of RI goes to 10 round mags on Sunday, the 18th. Nothing grandfathered in. Fix the mag to accept only 10, or sell it to a dealer in a state that allows over 10. 8 round PPK/s, but piss/ed off for friends!
I continue to stay with the G-26 after all these years because it carries well enough with 10+1, isn't overly heavy being loaded out, is completely reliable, is very accurate, and takes the 19 and 17 magazines. 10+1 in the gun and two 15 round magazines is nothing to sneeze at. I've always been of the mind that the ban was coming back nationally and frankly I'm surprised that it hasn't to this point. Of course now we see what we see in state's. That being said, if you don't have more than 10 rounds or you don't expect to legally be able to have more than 10 round magazines much longer, that in of itself speaks to staying right with the fundamentals of pistol marksmanship. I've observed over the years that aspect get lost in the mix many times during the course of 2005 to now. There is something to be said for the virtues of higher capacity magazines but you'd still best be able to hit something. Also, for goodness sake, would everyone at these ranges I'm forced to frequent please at least "try" to fish out a target to the 25 yard line and "attempt" to put anything on the paper at that distance? I can be on a line of 10, 15 stalls full up and NOT A SINGLE SOUL will ever put a target out past 10 or 12 yards. It's ridiculous already.
You didn't give a definitive number you stated a lot of fact but we come to this channel for advices on self defense and home protection, i would personnally go for 3 full size magazine (with one loaded) in an edc loadout using a vertical shoulder holster (the only way you can conceal a full sized gun with a -40db suppressor and a flashlight).
How much capacity do you need?
As many as it might take to stop a threat to my life. It is not, nor will it ever be, the government's nor anyone else's job to tell me how many rounds I might need to be able to defend myself should that need arise.
You won't know until after you need them. If you only need 1, great, but do you only want to carry 1 or 2 even? I have a G23 loaded with a factory G23 mag (13rnds) then an ETS G22 mag (16rounds) so with the 1 in the chamber I have 30 rounds on me. I also keep a spare G22 mag loaded in the car & a full box of ammo also, so if I am in my car or can get to it that's another 66 rounds.
Depends On The Situation.
One if properly placed
As many as the gun can physically hold.
I'm not James Bond, and there could be a gang.
I can't believe I used to read Massad's Guns and Ammo column in middle school in the early 80's and he's still around dispensing wisdom!
Same here. Him, Jordan, Elmer, Cooper, and Askins to name a few... those were some great years to be young in.
He is, indeed, a legend in defensive shooting. When he chooses to speak, ALL gun owners should choose to listen carefully.
Same here I always loved reading his articles. When this man speaks you best listen, he's an absolute treasure trove of experience and wisdom.
No matter the topic, or whether he talks for five minutes, or if he talked for 50-hours straight, I dread, DREAD, knowing that every word he speaks is creeping that much closer to the point that, unfortunately, he's going to stop. Until the NEXT opportunity I have the honor and pleasure to hear him again, which is never soon enough. Mas, there are no words that I can express that shows the depth of my RESPECT and APPRECIATION for what you do. Regards, Sir. -David Innis.
True guru fosho fosho.
It was about 2003 or 04 I did a real, detailed written threat assessment for myself and my location. I am a retired Army officer and spent a lot of time as a Strategic Planner at several 4-star commands, major Combatant Commanders. Threat assessments weigh heavily into writing plans and operations orders for large units. After being honest and doing this assessment, I determined my daily carry gun was not going to be a revolver any longer. This was not a fun task because I personally love revolvers. Yes, I grew up with 1911s both at home and in the Army prior to changing over to the M9. But this was later as I said. I needed to catch up with the times, i.e., the threat.
It is now 2022. People must understand a few factors in threat analysis. Something can be very unlikely but the most dangerous. (a nuclear war for example). Also, something might be very likely but not as dangerous. As a planner I tried to zero in on the most likely and most dangerous threats for the commanders. We all need to think like this in order to evaluate our own situations. A farmer in rural Kansas vs a person living in Philadelphia will have a host of different criteria to make an evaluation. Myself? I live 60 miles from the Mexico border in South Texas! The threat here? I would love to take a minimum of a four-vehicle convoy with crew served weapons to go to town for groceries and have a platoon of infantry at the house every evening. It is my wife and I and our dogs, goats, chickens and some cows. My neighbors are all great people but they are not near by.
Technology for security purposes is VITAL. My dogs are VITAL. My firearms are VITAL. This place is my Alamo. I will not leave. I am in it to win it. Illegal entrants are the threat. They are not friendly, hardworking Mexicans coming seasonally to work and earn money. Those are all already here or smart enough to see America looks too dangerous these days.
My best advice? Watch Mas in all videos he is in. You will learn a lot. Also, the man has written quite a few books. Order them and read them. Here is the uncomfortable part. Train. Train with a purpose. Train like your life and your family members lives depend upon it. Strive to make things simple. The Army has battle drills for all weapons systems. These drills focus on learning how to get the weapon into action, the same way every time, how to reload it, clear it, and get back into action, the same exact way every time. The drills are done to the point it becomes "muscle memory". Become an expert marksman or as close as you can become. If a weapon is to be used for carry, home defense, a trunk or truck gun, master it.
This is the hard part folks. If you have to fight, understand that it is not over until it is over. If in the fight get to gettin" as an old First Sergeant used to say. Get it done with a purpose. The martial aspect of it is only half the equation. The mental / emotional / spiritual side must be in order BEFORE any fight. If these last three are not solid in you as an individual, your chances are greatly reduced and your risk level just went up. I am not preaching. I am sharing.
Lastly, your physical condition is important, regardless of age. I cannot run any more for physical training. I walk, ride a mountain bike, lift weights, and eat right, not perfect, but as best I can. I take supplements, i.e. a bunch of vitamins, beet root for blood pressure, and do not drink much. (yes, I like a cold beer once in a while). Start small and each week make yourself do better. It works. If you do not exercise trying to do too much too soon makes people quit. If you can do 1 push up each day this week, next week you do 2 per day, and so on.
I keep my firearms clean and ready to go at all times. That is military habit I cannot dismiss. I challenge all the Patriots on this channel to assess your environment, assess the threat. Consider your skill level. Consider your fitness and diet. Keep or get in shape in the mental / emotional / spiritual realm. We are going to need each and every single one of you in the coming days. This country is not going to repair itself via how things are being done currently. Stay alert, practice situational awareness and danger area avoidance. God bless each of you and stay safe.
We have no clue who's in our country now. I stay in a lot of hotels for my job and one of them in east TX had border crossers living in the hallway of the hotel on my floor. Staying overnight with doors open and literally lying on the hallway floor at night drinking beer. No kidding. Its dangerous times of disappearing security.
Well said, and well written sir! Your comments are inspiring to say the least. Thank you so very much for commenting. You made my evening.
Roger that.
10-4 THANKS!
Wish I had read your book instead, it's probably shorter.
As a retired cop I still carry my .40 cal with 1 in the chamber and a 15rd mag and 2 spare 15 rd mags as my minimum standard EDC. You need to be carrying enough ammo because you never know what you might run into. Stay safe guys!
Thank you for your service Sir . God bless
When is the last time you or any of your fellow officers had to use more than one 15 round magazine?
@@soundped What difference does it make? It only matters when you need the lead my friend.
@@soundped Thankfully while I have been shot at several times during my carrier before I was hurt in the line of duty and forced to retire and I did on numerous occasions have to draw my weapon I was never forced to fire a shot on patrol. This is due to various reasons, once because a crowd of people ran back and forth between me and the shooter as well as behind him as good of a shot as I am it wasn’t safe to return fire. Other times the shooter was inside their home and no clear shot was available. Officers are responsible for every single shot they fire (as they should be) so we must always evaluate the situation and be certain it is safe to return fire or at a bare minimum the risk of doing so is greatly outweighed by the risk to the public the shooter continues to pose. Now that said an Officer using more then a single 15 round magazine is not rare at all. People have this idea from TV & the movies that if you shoot a person they go down, in reality pistol ammunition is not all that deadly. Generally what kills you is going into shock, or blood loss over time if you don’t get treatment. And even if you do score a fatal hit which is much much harder in reality then everyone thinks that person doesn’t go down right away, they continue to pose a threat to everyone around them for several minutes or even longer. I spent most of my carrier in a rural area full of small towns then the last 2 years in a smaller city not like LA , NYC, or CHICAGO but even in that environment I responded to several scenes or was on site with an OIS (Officer involved shooting) in which the Officer had to reload his weapon. I can think of 5-6 that I was somehow involved in personally. Every situation is unique and different so I don’t think anyone can say it happens at (Blank) ratio. The real concern is ending up in a situation where you need the ammo and don’t have it. That is just about as bad as it can get and you are almost certainly going to die at that point. Because again despite what Hollywood tells everyone you are almost always on your own! You can yell for help on the radio and other Officers will desperately try to get to you as fast as we can but your backup maybe as little as 2-3 minutes out (absolutely forever in a gun fight) or as much as 10-15 minutes out. It will all be decided well before then! You must be trained, equipped, and prepared to hold your own until it is over or until help can get there and that can be a very very long time. I don’t like to watch them for obvious reasons but I’m sure if you looked you can find lots of videos on line of OIS’s. Anyway I hope this helps some at least. Take care!
how do you know 46 is enough? Why aren't you carrying 66? or 200?
you really think you're going to engage committed armed attackers and the issue which decides the outcome is the number of rounds you have? You are unarmored. without armor you have precious LITTLE chance of surviving such an encounter
Mindset. Does not matter if you have a single stack 1911, a revolver, or a high capacity pistol. The most important thing is that you know what your carry piece can and cannot do. Train hard with it. Bring extra magazines or speed loaders. The more magazines or speed loaders, the better. Let us not forget the Browning Hi-Power who was, in my opinion, the most popular Wonder 9 before the Glock 17 came out. To quote Clint Smith: "Beware the man who only has one gun. He probably knows how to use it."
No disrespect intended toward Mr. Smith, but we've just heard a guy who I think all of us would agree "knows how to use it" and he is advocating for more capacity. That's good enough for me.
Dear Mas, I just had to comment again. Your teachings and advise is spot on. Been following your teachings for 40+ years. As a 33 yr. Police veteran, you have my deep respect🇺🇸
30 years ago I was serving as a deputy sheriff here in Texas. I ended up assisting a trooper who was chasing a stolen truck, whose three occupants had murdered a young couple and a 4:year old boy and 2 year old girl in the act of taking the truck.
They exited the highway onto a dark farm to market road. Eventually they busted the gates and entered an unlit large cemetery. There was one way in and one way out, so we parked the troopers car across the entrance and he got in with me.
In the back of the cemetery we found the truck, they had blown both front tires trying to hop the large curb.
There was no lighting except for what we had, so we felt like targets. We stayed away from our lights as much as possible. I covered as the trooper moved up to clear the vehicle. I thought I saw movement to the left so I moved my focus to that area.. sure enough I saw a flash as the trooper activated his light. I double tapped the muzzle flash and something fell. I was about to ask if the trooper was ok when I saw another flash further right and felt an impact in the car, right beside me. I double tapped that flash as the trooper simultaneously fired two rounds at something I couldn't see, further behind him.
Then it was quiet. We carefully moved up and found all three suspects DRT.
The trooper had fired three rounds earlier in the action, to keep one of the suspects from grabbing a hostage. So a 90 mile chase and two shootouts, he fired 5 shots, resulting in one suspect DRT, and the event ended.
I chased for about 28 miles, fired 4 shots, 2 suspects DRT.
The trooper and I had served together on a SWAT team for 4 years prior to this event. I'm certain that the fact we had served and trained heavily together, and the SWAT training program- which is intense, when done properly, is the reason we were successful in the action , with no wasted resources or injured personnel.
Which shows the incredible importance of training, and PROPER training. You MUST train like you fight. Live fire exercises and scenarios which differ from expectations are a life and death requirement.
Too many departments think one box of ammo to practice with, then another on six month range day, and then the qualification, is more than enough. No structure, limited ammo , poor range equipment all end up creating cops who only THINK they're a good shot. This puts innocent bystanders at risk.
Departments have to allow a budget that will provide officers with the skill set they need to do their job safely and efficiently.
Civilians really need to increase their practice time, and be certain it is valuable practice. Enroll in some of the excellent programs you can find online. It will save your life someday and possibly others.
The training time the two of you did together probably was the biggest asset during that event.
A few of us that frequently worked same shift but dif agency’s. We started training together at least once a month. One of the fellas was a reloader which helped keep the out of pocket expenses manageable. Every thing was out of our own pockets. My jaw hit the floor when you stated one or two boxes of ammo every 6months. That’s so 1990s.
That’s sad.
I appreciate your service Sir
Great story, thanks for sharing it 😎
@@Progen77 I don't know if it was appropriate here and I don't think about it much, but something Mass said made me think of it all of a sudden. You never know how a gunfight is going to go down, but based on my experience, there's no such thing as too many magazines or too much ammo or too much training. If it's there, take advantage of it.
As the frequency of body armor being used by criminals increased, my center mass zone drill targets have descended about a foot.
Haha! If you can't hit 'em in the bull, hit 'em in the balls? (Or lower abdomen, whichever stops them).
@@devildog17013 aim for the pelvis. No matter how big/angry/drugged up an attacker is, he won't be able to do much if you explode the head of his femur.
Rounds to the pelvis can be devastating.
@@Mr_Snarky both physically and psychologically.
that's right, you need to hit below the waist. also, the pelvic area has a main artery running down the inside of each leg. unless you are really lucky and you blow his Balls off! :)
Very well said. Retired LEO in Ca. Fortunately I now reside in Riverside County where the Sheriff issues CCW permits as fast as he can
Thank you for addressing the topic of high capacity magazines. It's a sad day when risks have become so acute as to require so many rounds.
Absolutely!
But it happens. I know of a 2man team who got hung up in a large building full of tiny rooms made of camel shit and went through 9 15 rd. M9 magazines, plus part of a 10th, didn’t miss a single time, either. That was my entire load out and 1/2 my partners pistol mags. Oops, anyway- empty mags through my legs, loaded mags on the right shoulder… REALLY WANTED A Mk 18 at that moment- the 10.3” one … the AF issued GAU 5s- 14.5” XM-177s that had that long as…. It was long… so, that’s how a CCT team gets in deep shit cause sometimes they DO. This was 1991, BTW.
No security element like a ranger stick or a STA
squad. 2 spray painted tan YZ 490s, a laser designator the size the first VXR, 2 M9s, 2 carbines… no SOPMOD, yet… JSOC not SOCCOM. A mess. I can tell you for fact that a couple Mk18s, a couple M9s, some tanker holsters and as many mags as they could find, borrow, purloin - WTF EVER could be ditched- WAS. I’m just a story teller. Fact based fiction.
Truth- NEVER TO MANY MAGS/ to much AMMO.
As I am old school (and old), this is a great video justifying the reasons for carrying more ammo. I love my wheel guns, but feel better now carrying my Glock 19 with 2 extra magazines. Thank you Mas! Also glad I live in a free state (Kansas).
lol,, i live in Ks also,, i carry a weapon that holds a 17 rd mag,, along with it is 2 extra mags and some times i wonder if even THAT is enough
@@davidclark6314 what do think you're going to run into that 1: requires 51 rounds to stop and 2) lets you survive long enough to fire 51 rounds?
@@primeministersinister625 The next LA riot. The next riot anywhere. A group of armed thugs. I'd rather have too many rounds and not need them all than have too few rounds and need more.
@@AlaskaErik uh dont go outside during a riot.
@@primeministersinister625 Sometimes the riot comes to your home.
I was a cop in Chicago, I Just pulled the plug, my house is up for sale, when I started we had to buy a 4'' S&W, Colt or Ruger 38 or 357, I picked up a S&W MODEL 586, with 3 speed loaders, now I carry a Walther with 16 9mm rounds in the mag. and more then one magazine. . Feds use to say 7 yards 21 feet was the avg. shoot out ,now they say 40% of shootings are 5 to 8 feet.. I loved that 586 but THINGS CHANGE. Thanks for a great video
Oregon resident currently carrying a Walther PPQ M2 9MM (Winter carry) with a standard capacity mag on board with one in the chamber (15+1) and two spare high capacity (17) mags. Hope I never need more than one or two shots, but if I do, I've got 'em 😁 Always been a firm believer that it's better to have something and not need it, than to need something and not have it. Now let's see what happens with ballot measure 114...
Good luck with measure 114. Some legal battles now occurring. From what I saw and heard, every gun in Oregon was probably sold before the Dec.8th deadline. I saw where one dealer required appointments to get in the store. Crime will go up even higher esp. in Portland as I believe the intent is to simply stop all gun sales with the overly involved red tape and gate keeper State Police.
I hear that Salem Oregon around the DOJ building there are several SWAT vehicles and a MRAP, supposedly for several days now. I believe its because two cities just pissed off 90% of the state.
@@coach- I only know of one out of thousands, what where the others?
@@Ovokor pretty much. Lane county and the PDX Metro area. AND, I have spoken to several people, in person and on-line that voted yes on 114 but either didn't read the whole measure or didn't understand the ramifications of it passing.
Criminals with guns definitely carry more than 10 rounds. Anything less these days and you're bringing a knife to a gun fight
Bought a copy of "In the Gravest Extreme" 30 years ago. Just passed it on to my son. Still relevant today. Thank you.
I had a signed copy, loaned it to a student he went PCS and kept it. I resisted the temptation to find him and collect a pound of flesh…
But it still on my list.
@@warlockcommandcenter Just loaned my copy to a neighbor.
Mas is very well known in the Philippines. His thoughts on firearms are being discussed by both old and new firearm enthusiasts until now.
“Thanks Massad”..you’re a HUGE credit to not only WC’s program/channel, but a fantastic ‘go-to’ for virtually ALL things firearms..whether legalese info or firearm(s) specifics. Much appreciated!
Mas, I look forward to yours, Bill Wilson's, Ken Hackathorn's, and all the other illustrious Firearms & Tactics trainers videos & training , that has saved countless innocent Civilian & LE lives Worldwide, along with their bank accounts & Freedom. God Bless you Massad F. Ayoob, the E.P. Gail, your daughters C. & J., and your life's work. Stay safe brother, watch your six & stay frosty,phil🇺🇲🙏💙🍀👍
Should send this to every governor and attorney general's of every state and all of Congress .this testimony should be voiced to Congress and all federal and state officials . Thanks for the clear and concise information that government officials refuse to hear . 👍
When I first started we were issued S&W revolvers, then Colt 1911’s which everybody liked to S&W model 59’s which nobody liked. Six or seven shots on hand seemed to do the job. A six shot revolver saved my life one night.
I am a retired police officer, I carried a badge for 38 years and like you I started the force carrying a six shooter Smith and Wesson Mod. 10. Times have changed and I retired carrying a Glock with three 17 mags with 17 bullet capacity. Why? because on this border town I live almost all badguys carry high capacity guns. I agree with you in carrying high capacity magazines when you carry a gun. I agree with all your reasons for carrying high capacity magazines, because when you really need the weapon, you better have enough bullets in case of multiple threats. Kudos on your video, it is spot on.
Logic, wisdom, and decades of objective experience. Thank you, Mr. Ayoob!
From a California resident, thank you for making videos like this. When law-abiding Americans are being denied their Constitutional rights in ANY state, it is EVERY state's problem.
Yes. The other states are starting to realize it isn't just California.
@@jaybizzle9038 I don’t pay much attention to the news up there I’m an ohioan what’s happening?
@@jaybizzle9038 Grandfather clause does not allow for inheriting either.
Your kids can't buy and your guns die with you.
creeping tyranny.
@@jaybizzle9038 meaning for Michigan originally I’m a palled at the way things are going there. I can’t believe you’re tired of a governor who is reelected after her horrible performance during Covid.
NYC has legal carry now after a 100yrs! never thought I'd see that day coming but we can now CARRY LEGALLY no matter what that pos faux-gov hochul does, the courts over-ride that bitch on the usual UNCONSTITUTIONAL TACTICS she's trying to pull
WE THE PEOPLE ARE WINNING THIS FIGHT AND THANKS TO REAL POTUS DONALD TRUMP THAT MADE IT HAPPEN
Carry two identical guns. 1- Doubles your capacity. 2- Second gun if you have a malfunction, to use as a backup.
3. A gun for a friend.
Wow never thought of that !!! I have that but never thought of it !!
Thanks so much. I don't like the fact that we need to carry more ammo but the fact is we do. I always carry a spare mag with an additional 13 rounds for my Shield Plus and it's simply a good habit to have. Again, times change and I appreciate your sound advice.
I would carry at least two or three mags, you just never know? and it would be terribly lousy to wish you had more ammo instead of saying wow I had enough!
I keep a mag of AP, AP, HP series, a mag of HP, AP, HP series, a mag of hot loaded AP. If i'm down to that the other ammo wasn't cutting it. Two AP for car windshield, followed by HP for drivers head works for me when practicing.
The hot AP after DC Navel Yard shooting. Only safe fire position is floor below shooting through the ceiling into killer on floor above covering your exit..
@@robertsmith2956 Wow, you need a L.A.W. and some frags and possibly a do yourself in vest just in case. Obviously a bit of dark humor on your part. Let's pray it is.
@@robertsmith2956 you should seek some professional training.
@@billhoppe2991 My AA gun will do just as well horizontally like a LAW, and have a better range. I have something better than frags.
You have to do it yourself, they don't make kevlar carbon fiber laminates.
Different guns, and different ammo for different jobs.
You don't need to outrun popo radio as long as you outgun any dumb enough to listen to it.
The 2nd Amendment was written to protect yourself FROM the government.
As clinton said, I am an army of one.
Mas,Good to hear you still giving advice. I was 19 back in 83 when I read your book,I’m 58 now😂
Rock on!
Thank you sir for your excellent perspective on the unfortunate progression of violent crime in the United States over the past 40 plus years. I started my law enforcement career in 1975 and agree with everything you stated. Fortunately, many Americans have decided to carry now and I'm very glad they have. Notwithstanding the issues of what type of firearm should be carried and the number of rounds, at least people they have decided to be armed and (hopefully) not be a victim. Please keep your videos coming. They help us all. Respectfully, Greg
Wish I could afford one! That is sweet!
Been reading your articles since I was in my teens. I have now been retired from a large LEA for ten years. Started as an officer, retired as an administrator. Didn’t strive to promote it just kind of happened. I continue too value your knowledge and experience today.
Thank you sir!
God bless!
More rounds are better for sure, but comfrot trumps capacity for me personally, so I normally carry whatever the original mags allow. If I were a cop and/or had a daily job that required me to carry I'd probably rethink all of this, but just a typical guy working a non lethal job in normal circumstances capacity is way down on my list of pros vs cons:)
Massad Ayoob I took a class from you and Ray Chapman when I was a. Active duty Police Officer in Salt Lake City UT. I worked in Arizona and I am retired. I still carry everyday. Even though I am retired I train as often as possible. At the training I got from you Captain you said if I had a situation and needed backing you guys would assist is this still available if ever needed. I think my AzCop or FOP would back me just asking if you still back me up, I train with you on the platform your on now. I am proud of the in person training I had with you and Chapman. God bless, please you guys keep the training from Wilson Combat up. Training never stops responding to situation for not either just don't get dispatched. LOL. Thank you for the on line training.
Wisdom dispensed on every Wilson Combat video. Thank you!
Mas, you are the best!
Wow, thanks!
Great PSA. Thanks Massad!
I’m in illinois and we are about to go thru more attacks on our second amendment rights. Thank you Mr Ayoob and Mr Wilson for putting these important videos out and educating people properly about why our rights are so important.
Don't forget the purge law going into effect Jan 1st.
When I lived in Arkansas, I officiated a ton of high school basketball in Berryville, AR. Good people out there...
Excellent points by a legend! I don’t like calling them “high-capacity” magazines. A Glock 19 magazine has a STANDARD or REGULAR capacity of 15.
That’s because Glock set the standard
I don't want to sound like a jerk, but if you asked a car dealer for a comparison of the fuel efficiency of a Toyota Camry hybrid and a Charger with a HEMI engine and he replied, "They both have _standard_ and _regular_ efficiency." I don't think you would be pleased with that answer.
On point, professionally presented as we have come to expect from one of best experts in the business. Well done sir. Your expetience and wealth of knowledge is invaluable and much appreciated.
Much appreciated!
Thanks Mas. My primary carry gun is still my large heavy six shot revolver. It size and weight necessitate (IMO) a shoulder holster. My draw even though frequently practiced with laser cartridges and the Mantis app is glacial compared to even my very small auto in an appendix holster. Sometimes it is just hard for us older shooters to give up our old favorites that have brought us much comfort in the past. Seeing you here, is lighting a fire under me to change with the times.
I grew up with revolvers. I don't carry a revolver anymore. It's never too late to change unless you've fired those five or six rounds in that revolver while the bad guy has a 17 round magazine Glock 17 and lots of rounds left.
@@AlaskaErik Thanks. I have carried four different autos over the last 35 years or so, so it is not that I don't have experience with or interest in them (my first edc was a 6906 back around '88). It is mostly that civilian on civilian gun fights are as rare as whale feathers where I live and from watching sources like ASP it sure looks like vanishingly few civilian gun uses are require more than 6 shots. Of course, it is a risk to not have shots 7-21, but after much study and contemplation I suspect that it is less than getting hit by lightning.
As a retired police officer (1974-2016)and firearms instructor/ instructor trainer in early 80’s I agree that there is need for high capacity magazines and pistols. From watching numerous gunfights on UA-cam, and being involved in two gunfights in my career. What is missing in officers firearms training is fire control and shot placement . The average tactic I’ve seen in the most videos is the “spray & pray”.
My first gunfight was in October of 1985 was with a wanted cartel member in Miami. He was armed with a full auto MAC 10 and opened fire from his residence as we hit the door. I was armed with a model 29 44 S&W 6 shot and two speed loaders, at the end of the battle the subject was neutralized using fire control, shot placement and tactics.
I’m not saying that police don’t need the high capacity pistols and magazines they are issued in today’s policing climate. However using fire control , shot placement and tactics can enhance the benefits and use of the high capacity equipment. Thank you.
"There is a quality to quantity."
This is why I want a Wilson Dbbl stack 10mm. Real stopping power and round count
SFT10 would be nice. I’m holding out on buying a polymer 10mm. I want all metal.
@@happyamerican3235 I know a few places that will build a 2011 10mm. I was hopping Wilson would see the light.
It also would seem that proficient execution of head shots is becoming more important. At least equal in importance to torso shots.
smaller target, that's why torso comes first.
@@Sheepdog1314 15 yards is the estimated distance the head-shot was made by Jack Wilson in the Texas church. One shot stop. When you practice and practice and practice, better things can happen.
@@Sheepdog1314 of course, correct, but if the perp(s) are wearing vests your choices of shot placement just went down dramatically.
Man, that guy is such a legend. He's been at this longer than anyone I can think of. This is an opinion you can take to the bank.
NYS resident here.. My closest store (a little country store with a gas pump).. SIX and half miles away. Closest police station, Cooperstown, approx., 17-20 miles away. I know and have lived in BOTH the countryside, dairy farms, as well as several cities, Albany, Utica, Schenectady, (Oneonta, if it can be considered a city).. But, there's NO ONE size fits all living circumstances in NYS, so it SHOULD be mathed in, that a "ONE size fits ALL" law.. Neither SAFE or EFFECTIVE... Thank you Massad@WilsonCombat
That you for another thoughtful and informative video. I've been practicing failure to stop drills every range trip for a coupe of years now, and never leave home without at least one spare magazine; for two of my EDC options I carry two spares.
If I get in a gunfight I don't want a high capacity magazine. I want the movie magazine that never runs out! If I'm defending my home just build a pipeline from the ammo Factory to my gun and send me everything!
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Massed, I’ve listened and read your writings for years. I appreciate your thoughts and work, you are great.
I started reading Mr. Ayoobs articles in gun magazines since the early 80s, when i first started using guns for self defense. Now im almost 60 and his advice couldnt be more logical, and focused. Responsible gun ownership is what this country needs. He can see all sides of the issues, he keeps us life long gun enthusiasts from making severe mistakes. We're lucky to have this guy around .
Very informative video. Sometime, could Mas do a video on different bullet grains in 9mm and .45acp, and their advantages/disadvantages for defensive applications? Its something I think about especially during winter when people and animals put on more layers. Thanks!
After many years of reading reviews, I find that the 124 grain 9 mm is The Sweet Spot. Heavier than the 115. Better velocity than the 147.
My present New York City carry package is the PSA 5.7 with three 23 round magazines, 1 in the chamber for a total of 70 rounds. When in Florida the barrel is changed to threaded and it gets fitted with hearing protection.
You can’t be a civilian ,and carry those mags in NY much less NY City
BS story
@@Desperado3248 And why not?
Excellent video. Many departments don't object to how many extra magazines you carry as long as department ammunition is used.
My husband is a law enforcement agent. He is not a local law enforcement person.
They are allowed to carry many approved weapons including their own rifles once approved.
This is an excellent video ful of actual facts.
God bless 🙏 God bless the founding fathers 🙏👌🙏
Please excuse the typos.
I began with revolvers and was there when the switch to 9mm Simi-Auto pistol began. I quickly learned that if you might get into a gun fight, that I needed as much ammo as I could comfortably carry , and a long gun with ammo was even better.
Another great video ! Thank you very much for the great content !
Glad you enjoyed it!
In military combat I knew to carry as much ammo as possible
Later as a police officer I was amazed that no one was carrying enough ammo for a fire fight with several bad guys . At that time in the late 60's there wasn't even a shotgun in each vehicle . We had to bring our own I'd we wanted one which l did . I have a bag with a rifle and shotgun and ammo in it . Some of the guys thought l was strange until one time when I got to back up some officers in a firefight. After that several officers started packing extra equipment . Today you can bet that I have extra ammo nearby . I have some 33 round mags in 9mm and a couple of 24 round ones in .45 caliber. My jeep is very well equipped. Back then we didn't have a swat team . Thankfully today there have been many changes . I enjoy your programs.
When Mr. Ayoob speaks, listen!
As many as I want, as far as the law is concerned.
As Rudyard Kipling said: "A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition"
There is an old saying that the only time you can have too much ammunition is if you are drowning or on fire.
I agree on the number of people invading a home. In Australia there's a huge trend where gangs of people doing over your property. And just think in Oz we have absolutely no way to defend our family, ourselves or our property due to the strict gun laws here. And because of this the home invasions are spiraling out of control.
This is a great video, and Mas brings up great points. After giving it a lot of thought, there are some other things worth framing this question with. First, most violent offenders are *not* looking for a fight, they are looking for soft targets. This is why they target schools, nightclubs, women, and people who do not look like they can put up a fight. Therefore, I would wager that the majority of defensive uses of firearms start and stop with the intended victim presenting the means to defend themselves, and the willingness to use it. Ergo, the *majority* of the time, capacity is a non-issue. Arguably, just as important as capacity, if not more important, is training and experience. Mob violence and sophisticated violent assaults/ambushes are becoming more of a thing, however it might be a tad alarmist to talk about these things being commonplace, because they're generally not. I'm not suggesting that one should not prepare for that eventuality, or be okay with magazine bans. I'm just saying that each person should conduct a realistic threat/risk assessment, and plan accordingly. If you live in a city in a blue state, your threat assessment picture looks different from someone living in the rural countryside of a red state.
In Rhode Island apparently that number is 10, the mere Possession of more than 10 round removable magazine's is now a Felony
Sucks big time!!! Warwickian here. 😭🔫
Two clips always , hopefully I'll never need either one. 🙏🇺🇸💪
Hey Mas; great clip. Many, during the "carried ammo" debates, seem to neglect the reaity of magazine failures. They argue the round count and dismiss, or worse ignore, the magazine issue, Personally, I carry a S&W M&P9, chambered in 9X19, with the standard 17+1 in the gun and two, 22 round magazines, daily. When I've encountered a serious stopage, a new magazine is the quickest solutoion. My other EDC load-out is a S&W 4006, chambered in .40S&W, with standard 11+1 in the gun and two additional 11 round magazines. So I carry either 35 rounds of .40S&W (1990-2010) or 62 rounds of 9mm (2010-present). I think this is the change in mentality, based on the existing conditions, you spoke of in you clip. Thank you.
Earlier this year I was at a 7-11 in Las Vegas and some nut case probably drugged out, charged at me from behind while i was walking back to my car, And luckily I heard him coming so I spun around and placed my hand on the grip of my firearm, i doubt he was there to sell me some girl scout cookies... luckily for the both of us he stopped and started running back to his 'homie'. Gotta pay lots of attention to your surroundings these days.
Of all the "experts" on youtube, you make the most sense. I watch all your videos and your conclusions are well founded and based upon experience and logic.
As always, excellent video!!!
💥😎69 Rounds is Best!👍🇺🇸
And to that I say... Practice, practice, practice. Peace. "Through superior firepower".
Your focus becomes your reality.
Your perception becomes your reality.
I followed the link from today's video, December 27, 2023; Part 1 to that. Thanks for the link and the words to the wise, Mas.
As of 2022-2023, the states of Michigan, Illinois and Oregon have lost their gun rights to “assault weapon” and magazine bans. The Right which Shall not be Infringed has now been practically abolished in a large portion of the USA.
Also commie Washington State has recently gone to 10 round magazines.
There are rifles I'd like to buy, but they only come with 1 ten round clip, for a 22lr, and you can't buy more in the store.
Glad to be living in the South with our Great Governor "Ron DeSantis"!!!!
@@MrDb406466 you’re only one bad Election away from ending up like we have.
Whatever the manufacturer intended!! G19=15rds
I carry a Kimber Ultra Carry II 45ACP. I only have my right arm, i replaced the original magazines with Willson Combat magazines, one 7 rds and two 8 rds magazines, I feel very comfortable because I can shoot very will with this gun. It fits like a glove, i have a Canik TP9SF, 4.5" Barrel. I have 4 18 rounds magazines, i vould carry it, but i feel much more confidence in my Kimber. If ever is a need for me to carry the high capasity Canik, then i will. For now the Kimber is my carrying gun. Thank for your wonderful video. Thumbs up every time.
my wife says: These short nugget of wisdom style lessons are great. And congrats on 526K subscribers. Wishing you many more in the future.
AS ALWAYS MASOOD, YOU OFFER THE WELL REASONED AND AUTHORITATIVELY SUPPORTED ADVICE!!
THANK YOU.
MY CONCERN IS IN THE FACT THAT YOU NEED TO OFFER IT AT ALL!!!
IT WOULD SEEM THAT UNLESS 98%OF OUR POPULATION ARE TROGLODYTES AND NEWS IGNORANT, THAT HIGH CAPACITY IS OR SHOULD BE A GIVEN.
SIMILARLY, AS YOU POINTED OUT, 10 ROUND MAGAZINE LIMITS ARE FOLLY. WHO WOULD HONOR IT
I’m all for more rounds. I prefer the 45 to the 9, but that is a personal choice just like a lot of things. Say yes to more magazines and don’t take a knife to a gun fight.
Mark be it a 9 or 45 I would rather not get hit with anyone of them but for most people a 9 mm put in a well placed spot will do the job
just 👍 right
@@jsasr, I’m not interested in a debate of 9mm or 45. Being hit by either is overrated. On that I agree. It is a personal preference and what you choose is up to each one to make.
@@markphilpot8734 not looking for a debate,just making a statement of fact,THANK YOU for your reply 😀
@@jsasr, you are quite welcome sir!
Mossad another great video is always thanks so much
I wish you could do a presentation before congress and school the evil fools constantly attacking us. Thank you for all your work
If I had to choose, I'd carry a backup gun, rather than several extra magazines. That's called the "New York Reload." Mas even has a video demonstrating it:
ua-cam.com/video/aUxYXwbP3nI/v-deo.html
Two guns might also make good sense in the 10-round mag states.
What you say is true. What is your advice, from the view of us living in oppressed states. Previously, in the city that speaks 800 languages. I escaped a home invasion, and fought off, & or ran from different attacks. With age, I added a low capacity pocket pistol then OWB 9mm. Now I am in Seattle which can be a bit dicey. There are bullet holes on the outside of the Loft building where I live. Edgy is ok, if I am capable & prepared. Yes, more criminal groups not as many single attackers. It started here with two mostly and then three criminals. Now, my 15 round & my 16 round sidearms are limited to10. I carry a couple of extra mags, a decent 9mm pocket pistol. I train dry and at the range, love it. I am teaching my left hand to draw so maybe 2 OWB 9mm would be much faster than reloading? Concealability is an issue. Then there is the camera equipment for night street shooting or capturing images. Tactical light, always a knife tool. From 7 feet certain knives are lethal. Ok, I am unqualified and spinning off. I am vigilant, street smart, but just a "trained civilian" I am asking an expert. What do you suggest as a practical platform. No, I am not adding my 7lb "tactical" lever action, over my shoulder & no one tells me where and when to go out and about. Thank you for sharing your expertise. Maybe one day I will own a fine WIlson weapon.
You make the best videos, sincere and knowledgeable. Thank you.
Started reading your articles back about 1980 and have been a fan every since. I dont even go to get my mail without 15 rounds of 9mm in my pants!Thanks for another great video!
Just pulled a copy off my bookshelf of StressFire signed by Mas that I got right after it came out in the mid 80's. I also am looking at a copy of Fundamentals of Modern Police Impact Weapons. Both outstanding and still a good read.
Words of wisdom from a true master. Thank’s Massad
Great job. Keep up the great work. I hope people will listen
I hope so too
One thing I learned from James Yeager (RIP Brother) was the reason for carrying spare magazines. It's NOT for capacity. The magazine is the least sturdy link in the chain of parts on the weapon. You carry a spare (or 2) for replacing a damaged or malfunctioning magazine. If you're carrying a Glock and need more than the 17+1 capacity, one of several things are true: you suck and need more training, you live in Ukraine, or you're a LEO in a shootout with a drug zombie that cannot feel pain and has absorbed all your rounds (based on a true case). I carry a 7 shot revolver in 357.
Great comment!
Police officers have to use more than 17+1 all the time. Saying you suck if you need a certain amount of rounds is ignorant.
@@YEEYEE-dy8tk , Saying, "Police officers have to use more than 17+1 all the time." is the height of ignorance! "In fact, only about a quarter (27%) of all officers say they have ever fired their service weapon while on the job, according to a separate Pew Research Center survey conducted by the National Police Research Platform." Source: Pew Research
@@traeucity6087 Totally unrelated statistic. I’m talking about the amount of rounds they use not how often they use the firearm.
@@YEEYEE-dy8tk , You said, "Police officers"; implying ALL police officers. In any event, you have no data to back up your claim on the amount of rounds used.
One of the best channels on UA-cam.
When I came here from the UK people kept telling me I should have a 1911. My comment was “why would I want a piece of 100 yr old iron” well over 20 years I changed my mind. 1911 45ACP carries nice and flat. My other carry is a HiPower 9mm modified trigger loaded with 124gr NATO. Another steel gun. I think in a stress situation heavy piece makes a difference. Now I do have a M&P9 2.0 with upgraded seat and Truglo sights and at 25yds I can take head shots easily on the range. As a civilian that seems unlikely. At 10 yds the 1911 with basic sights works well for follow up headshots after the first point-shoot center of mass. At 30 feet in a fast moving situation who has time for sights. PS I hate add on lasers and red dots for a carry gun. Too much stuff! PPS I do have a folding M&P carbine with 3 23rd magazines in the car I could fight my way to!
Excellent delivery of a very important point. You sir are a scholar and a gentleman.
Well said sir, been taking your advice since ( before) I started as an LEO in the mid 90s! Glad you are still opining on the current issues.
Massad, another thought-provoking video filled with common sense. Sadly, common sense evades the mindset of many elected officials who author and pass legislation. I am blessed by God to live in a constitutional carry State.
If you are a civilian who carries concealed the firearm typically is smaller so the "print" under your clothing does not telegraph. That changes the magazine's capacity. I'm an old retired Army E8 - Airborne, Infantry, and Aviation background with a tour in Vietnam so I understand your position on enough rounds.
had a friend who was a Kansas Highway Patrol officer, He told some of us about a traffic stop. The car was erratic in the lane. They pulled over and all 4 doors opened. He grabbed his shotgun and left his sidearm on the seat. The driver absorbed 8 12 Gauge shells at one car length range. The passenger went down on the first shot, the guys in the back seat ran from the scene. The autopsy showed the driver with a near fatal amount of hard drugs ( he would not tell us exactly with ones he had) and he had 6 or 8 buckshot in the muscle of his heart and both lungs were perforated. The driver had a handgun with a 25 round magazine, the front passenger had a "large capacity" mag, but missed with his first shot, went down before he could fire a second shot. His advice was always carry more ammo than you think you need, it can be dangerous "out there"
More words of wisdom from Mas. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for listening
Well spoken sir and lucky me I live in New York
I conceal carry a FN509 full size tactical 24+1 with 2 extra 24rd mags. Stream light tlr1HL, holosun507 green dot. All comfortable in a Jansport style Fanny pack chest rig setup. Backup in the wasteband is my North American arms 22 mag revolver with holster grip. The last 10 years my everyday carry has been a colt mustang pocket lite .380 6+1 plus 1 extra mag.
Enough. For me to decide thank you very much
Great video and THANKS Sir ❗
I never realized you were Berryville. I grew up and graduated high school there a couple of decades ago.
Good timing. My state of RI goes to 10 round mags on Sunday, the 18th. Nothing grandfathered in. Fix the mag to accept only 10, or sell it to a dealer in a state that allows over 10.
8 round PPK/s, but piss/ed off for friends!
30rds in my psa roc 57, w two standard 23rd mags w me at all times edc, easily concealed w a belly band holster, 77rds on me at all times
I continue to stay with the G-26 after all these years because it carries well enough with 10+1, isn't overly heavy being loaded out, is completely reliable, is very accurate, and takes the 19 and 17 magazines. 10+1 in the gun and two 15 round magazines is nothing to sneeze at. I've always been of the mind that the ban was coming back nationally and frankly I'm surprised that it hasn't to this point. Of course now we see what we see in state's. That being said, if you don't have more than 10 rounds or you don't expect to legally be able to have more than 10 round magazines much longer, that in of itself speaks to staying right with the fundamentals of pistol marksmanship. I've observed over the years that aspect get lost in the mix many times during the course of 2005 to now. There is something to be said for the virtues of higher capacity magazines but you'd still best be able to hit something. Also, for goodness sake, would everyone at these ranges I'm forced to frequent please at least "try" to fish out a target to the 25 yard line and "attempt" to put anything on the paper at that distance? I can be on a line of 10, 15 stalls full up and NOT A SINGLE SOUL will ever put a target out past 10 or 12 yards. It's ridiculous already.
You didn't give a definitive number you stated a lot of fact but we come to this channel for advices on self defense and home protection, i would personnally go for 3 full size magazine (with one loaded) in an edc loadout using a vertical shoulder holster (the only way you can conceal a full sized gun with a -40db suppressor and a flashlight).
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