Man these videos just get better and better! If you ever plan to sell this as a kit, i would be so down to buy it! And if you can find a way to give it an HDMI output, even better!
Thanks! It does have a HDMI and a display port exposed at the top of the device (although the HDMI is occupied by the internal display). There's nothing stopping you from just unplugging it though!
When I saw the first video I was very skeptical, and yet here we are and the progress has been downright amazing. Great stuff Dan, genuinely appreciate all you are doing here, been an excellent project to track.
What a great project Dan!! 😅 love the series. If we can order the parts when it's ready it would be great 😊. I can assembly parts and 3d print the case but all the rest what you do is way over my head 😅. So love to see a way to order most of the parts. Pc and display we can order myself
I'll be looking into getting the PCBs pre-assembled once I have a final design so I can work out what the actual cost will end up being. Getting pretty close now!
@@cncdan thanks looking forward to it, I always wanted a device where you can replace the mainboard when it is old with a newer one and you can resuse the shell, display buttons, battery, somewhat like modular device. I think you're project is they one that can do this.. great 😉
I’m following you from Paris in France. Your videos are the best DIY series. I’m also interest for the kit when it will be available to build my handled consol using miniforum EM780 board
hello my friend, i was wondering if you could do the steam deck button layout having the d-pad and analog joysticks next to each other on the sides. I always thought it was a nice feature
This is already pretty similar, they are just rotated slightly to allow them to work best for my hands and I'm extremely happy with how comfortable it is! I haven't ever held a steamdeck before so I don't really have anything to compare to but its a bit late in the process to change layouts now anyway. Maybe on the next one!
Hey man, great Project. I have built one handheld as well, though only android Based, but it did have real wii mote capability by including the infrared LEDs for the wii motes for playing games on a TV like Wii Sports. Now I am looking to build a second, better one, and obviously want to fix my shortcomings of my old one. Exspecially my analog should trigers felt horrible. Is there any chance I could but your PCB Design off you? Looks great!
In my experience, it's usually the mechanism of the triggers that affects the feel. I do have all the files available for my previous project which you could take a look at. It works in a pretty similar manner to this one. I will open source the designs for this one, but I need to finish it all off first!
@@cncdan yeah, obviously the mechanics is to blame.the brief look I had it looked like the shape of your pcb somehow included the trigger mechanicsm, thats why I asked, but I might be wrong. Because in my old build, I glued a Potentiometer into my 3d hausing, which again, didnt feel great at all, so maybe integrating it on the pcb might be better
I found your channel while looking for small touchpad for my own controller project and I am very impressed with your work and I have a question. Would you consider using the motherboard of the Minisforum EM780 for the future project or could its small size be a problem due to the display?
Smaller is always better when it comes to finding enough room to jam everything in! I looked into some similar pc's but ultimately decided on the Beelink because I could get it locally pretty easily and it's size worked pretty well with the screen I was using anyway so a smaller PC wouldn't have been a huge help on this project!
@@McRootbeer I paid $489AUD. The newer systems that I could easily get were almost double that. Prices elsewhere probably aren't as bad but in Australia the price difference just wasn't justifiable for me.
Oh it would be kinda cool if you could display some kind of game information through the LEDs at the sticks. I know this is a one of a kind device (for now) but I can imagine a bunch of things: Changing color depending on health Acting like a circular health bar RPM Guage in racing games Or even in Windows: Having it display CPU Utilization on one Stick and RAM usage on the other Stuff like that
Yes, I like this idea! I probably don't have the necessary programming experience to make that happen, but the control of the lights over serial is very simple so anyone that does know how to pull information like that from a game would have no trouble controlling the lights!
Once the power management is working I am planning to have the LED's start blinking red when the battery is getting low. That will only work if the program is open in the background though!
Hey Dan, will you ever release all the source, files etc? This on is on another whole level compared to your previous one! Would love to try it on my own
Basically the plan is to get the design finished and investigate making a kit of parts. If the kit proves financially viable I'll produce a small number of kits and then open source the design as I release the kit. I'm basically trying to avoid having someone come in and steal the design and beat me to manufacture. If I decide the kit isn't worth the hassle I'll just open the design and move on!
They will be one day. I'm keeping the whole project closed source at least until its finished. If I decide to make it a kit I will keep it closed until the kit is released (simply to try and stop someone else beating me to production) and then open everything for those who are brave enough to build their own from scratch!
It's still a bit slower than the proffesional offerings, but that's just using the mini PC I chose. The whole idea is that you can use whatever mini PC you want as long as it fits and isn't too power hungry for the battery managment to keep up!
I would love to see that power management board become available i may be outing myself as a potential competitor but ive been working on a handheld gaming setup myself not nearly as far along as this it looks amazing btw and ive been struggling to workout a powere supply and charging system on a very tight budget lol keep up the amazing work sir you already helped me out with the video about building the controller
The power management is hands down the most complex part of a project like this. I'm definitely hoping to be able to sell a few but I'm unsure how much they will cost yet. The bq25792 IC is almost $10AUD alone!
@@cncdan well like i sed i for one would be interested if u can nail it down the most strait forward options if looked at so far have been using a ups board if only because there fairly inexpensive but with what you've got there would be so much more compact well good luck and thanks for the response ill keep watching if u keep posting And if i get mine running it will be atleast partially thanks to you
I try to avoid laptops as they can make the project difficult to replicate due to availability of the parts. Something like a framework laptop mainboard could be more successful but I'm not sure how available they are globally yet.
I don't own any of those titles sadly! I did look at rpcs3 but I believe the 5700u falls a little short of their recommended system requirements so it may not run many titles well. If I do end up giving it a go with the titles I do own, I'll be sure to make a video about it!
Thank you I greatly look forward to the stress tests these are very similar loads to what I would be using my own for and it's something my steam deck is completely incapable of
Great work. You should sell kits so that everyone can assemble their own board, with the power and price variables that exist, to be able to enjoy the fantastic work you have done.
I've designed this one with the intention of making it more suitable to be a kit. It will all just depend on how much interest there is and the final cost!
That's a goal I'm aiming for. I still need to finish off testing/troubleshooting my prototype and write some firmware for it. Then I can look into order a batch that are pre-assembled!
Please, make support for configurating the handheld on Linux, if someone will try to make this project and installs Linux (Fedora/Ubuntu/Arch) they'll soon find out that configuration apps aren't working under Wine on Linux, so you can make simple .sh program or CLI script to make their experience better
The control of the LEDs over serial is very simple. I haven't got much experience coding for Linux but if someone can point me in the right direction of what SDK to setup etc I should be able to make it work.
@@cncdan I think that probably best choice will be making an app with GTK and using PySerial as serial communication utility, or you can try Qt with Qt serial port module as this is a Cross-platform one, so you can make single programm and build it for several platforms
Does anyone know how to make joycon controllers using arduino? Am making a handheld and also posting videos of the progress on youtube if you gyes wanna check it out❤
Look into using esp32's in your controller halves. There are a few examples of people building wireless controllers with them. You may need a wireless serial link between the two halves as I don't think you'll be able to connect two Bluetooth controllers at once.
@cncdan oh thats unfortunate 😕, i think if i used and arduino inside my handheld and then make it so that they are connected through pins would be better, because i just want it to look like a tablet and has attachable controllers for the sake of portability and usability in school since i have a bad laptop and this might be able to replace it, thanks Dan! 😊
dude ryujinx is better emulator than yuzu the reason why nintendo never attack rujinx because they dont have a paywall like how there a new 3ds emulator called lemon 3ds nintendo emulation will never end there all ways people working on a emulator
Double like for that power management board!
That's my focus for the next couple of weeks now. I want the power management up and running for the next video!
Also interested in a PMB. That or a tutorial on getting the parts and putting it together.
Man that battery management board is class act
Thankyou! I'm keen to give it a proper test soon!
Very interesting work!
Thanks!
Man these videos just get better and better! If you ever plan to sell this as a kit, i would be so down to buy it! And if you can find a way to give it an HDMI output, even better!
Thanks! It does have a HDMI and a display port exposed at the top of the device (although the HDMI is occupied by the internal display). There's nothing stopping you from just unplugging it though!
When I saw the first video I was very skeptical, and yet here we are and the progress has been downright amazing. Great stuff Dan, genuinely appreciate all you are doing here, been an excellent project to track.
Glad you're enjoying it! It definitely is a monster of a project so I'm not surprised by the initial scepticism 🤣
Great to see the enig finish, also damn sexy power board!
Yes, its working much more reliably than the HASL finish on the first set!
Def interested in the PMB!
Noted! Thanks!
What a great project Dan!! 😅 love the series. If we can order the parts when it's ready it would be great 😊. I can assembly parts and 3d print the case but all the rest what you do is way over my head 😅. So love to see a way to order most of the parts. Pc and display we can order myself
I'll be looking into getting the PCBs pre-assembled once I have a final design so I can work out what the actual cost will end up being. Getting pretty close now!
@@cncdan thanks looking forward to it, I always wanted a device where you can replace the mainboard when it is old with a newer one and you can resuse the shell, display buttons, battery, somewhat like modular device. I think you're project is they one that can do this.. great 😉
Amazing looking battery/power management board, would love to be able to buy designs or complete part!
Noted! Thanks!
Very interested!! Would love to make a zen deck and fiddle with other handheld designs!
Go for it! Plenty of people on my discord group are having a go of their own versions!
That is coming along so nicely, Already looks better than my AYN Loki.
Thankyou!
Did the loki even ever release?
Came and went, Ayn has already discontinued the Loki line and sold the rights to Tek-Toy.
Great work on the power management board ! I would be interested to by the design or the complete board
Good to know, thanks!
I’m following you from Paris in France. Your videos are the best DIY series. I’m also interest for the kit when it will be available to build my handled consol using miniforum EM780 board
Thankyou! As for a kit, I can't guarantee it will ever eventuate but if it does, you guys will be the first to know!
I would like to learn how you designed that awesome power board!
Awesome progress
Thanks!
hello my friend, i was wondering if you could do the steam deck button layout having the d-pad and analog joysticks next to each other on the sides. I always thought it was a nice feature
This is already pretty similar, they are just rotated slightly to allow them to work best for my hands and I'm extremely happy with how comfortable it is!
I haven't ever held a steamdeck before so I don't really have anything to compare to but its a bit late in the process to change layouts now anyway. Maybe on the next one!
Wicked progress 🎉
Thankyou!
Hey man, great Project. I have built one handheld as well, though only android Based, but it did have real wii mote capability by including the infrared LEDs for the wii motes for playing games on a TV like Wii Sports.
Now I am looking to build a second, better one, and obviously want to fix my shortcomings of my old one. Exspecially my analog should trigers felt horrible. Is there any chance I could but your PCB Design off you? Looks great!
In my experience, it's usually the mechanism of the triggers that affects the feel. I do have all the files available for my previous project which you could take a look at. It works in a pretty similar manner to this one. I will open source the designs for this one, but I need to finish it all off first!
@@cncdan yeah, obviously the mechanics is to blame.the brief look I had it looked like the shape of your pcb somehow included the trigger mechanicsm, thats why I asked, but I might be wrong. Because in my old build, I glued a Potentiometer into my 3d hausing, which again, didnt feel great at all, so maybe integrating it on the pcb might be better
Great work as always :) - love this project!
Thank you!
Randomly opened youtube at the right time😁
Perfect timing!
I found your channel while looking for small touchpad for my own controller project and I am very impressed with your work and I have a question. Would you consider using the motherboard of the Minisforum EM780 for the future project or could its small size be a problem due to the display?
Smaller is always better when it comes to finding enough room to jam everything in! I looked into some similar pc's but ultimately decided on the Beelink because I could get it locally pretty easily and it's size worked pretty well with the screen I was using anyway so a smaller PC wouldn't have been a huge help on this project!
Cant wait to be able to build this
Love this series. It would be great if we can buy parts n 3d print cases our self and then assemble everything on our own it would be awesome
That's basically the plan, assuming I can have the PCBs produced and assembled for a reasonable enough cost.
It's amazing how powerful mini pcs have become in the last year.
They sure have! This one is actually a couple of years old, but it's still a great performer for the price!
@@cncdan how much was it?
@@McRootbeer I paid $489AUD. The newer systems that I could easily get were almost double that. Prices elsewhere probably aren't as bad but in Australia the price difference just wasn't justifiable for me.
Oh it would be kinda cool if you could display some kind of game information through the LEDs at the sticks. I know this is a one of a kind device (for now) but I can imagine a bunch of things:
Changing color depending on health
Acting like a circular health bar
RPM Guage in racing games
Or even in Windows:
Having it display CPU Utilization on one Stick and RAM usage on the other
Stuff like that
Yes, I like this idea! I probably don't have the necessary programming experience to make that happen, but the control of the lights over serial is very simple so anyone that does know how to pull information like that from a game would have no trouble controlling the lights!
Once the power management is working I am planning to have the LED's start blinking red when the battery is getting low. That will only work if the program is open in the background though!
@@cncdan That's already a very good use for the LEDs!
will this be released as a DIY pack? would be awesome!!
It's something I'm considering once the project is complete!
Hey Dan, will you ever release all the source, files etc?
This on is on another whole level compared to your previous one!
Would love to try it on my own
Basically the plan is to get the design finished and investigate making a kit of parts. If the kit proves financially viable I'll produce a small number of kits and then open source the design as I release the kit. I'm basically trying to avoid having someone come in and steal the design and beat me to manufacture. If I decide the kit isn't worth the hassle I'll just open the design and move on!
@@cncdan Cool!
Absolutely, I'll get the kit ASAP once you release it, great project Dan!
So any thought on getting these PCB files on Github?
They will be one day. I'm keeping the whole project closed source at least until its finished. If I decide to make it a kit I will keep it closed until the kit is released (simply to try and stop someone else beating me to production) and then open everything for those who are brave enough to build their own from scratch!
How much did this cost aslo you should make a kit
nice work
Thanks!
How does this compare, power wise, to an odin2 or a rog ally?
It's still a bit slower than the proffesional offerings, but that's just using the mini PC I chose. The whole idea is that you can use whatever mini PC you want as long as it fits and isn't too power hungry for the battery managment to keep up!
I would love to see that power management board become available i may be outing myself as a potential competitor but ive been working on a handheld gaming setup myself not nearly as far along as this it looks amazing btw and ive been struggling to workout a powere supply and charging system on a very tight budget lol keep up the amazing work sir you already helped me out with the video about building the controller
The power management is hands down the most complex part of a project like this. I'm definitely hoping to be able to sell a few but I'm unsure how much they will cost yet. The bq25792 IC is almost $10AUD alone!
@@cncdan well like i sed i for one would be interested if u can nail it down the most strait forward options if looked at so far have been using a ups board if only because there fairly inexpensive but with what you've got there would be so much more compact well good luck and thanks for the response ill keep watching if u keep posting
And if i get mine running it will be atleast partially thanks to you
Definitely not something i need but i totally want it
Probably not something I needed either, but I've enjoyed the process!
Hey man could you consider building a windows tablet for your next build, please. Using a laptop mobo or mini PC maybe
I try to avoid laptops as they can make the project difficult to replicate due to availability of the parts. Something like a framework laptop mainboard could be more successful but I'm not sure how available they are globally yet.
Okay 👍. Great new vid btw. I'll look forward to your new projects
I hope that you will test rpcs3 with armored core 5 and armored core for answer and Xenia with Ace combat 6
I don't own any of those titles sadly! I did look at rpcs3 but I believe the 5700u falls a little short of their recommended system requirements so it may not run many titles well. If I do end up giving it a go with the titles I do own, I'll be sure to make a video about it!
Thank you I greatly look forward to the stress tests these are very similar loads to what I would be using my own for and it's something my steam deck is completely incapable of
I'd buy it ngl
So how do i make one? ❤️
You either build my previous design which is open source and available on Github right now, or you wait until this one is complete!
@@cncdan oh! I tried to find model files to print, but failed miserably lol. You've done a really good job.
Great work. You should sell kits so that everyone can assemble their own board, with the power and price variables that exist, to be able to enjoy the fantastic work you have done.
No, do not
I've designed this one with the intention of making it more suitable to be a kit. It will all just depend on how much interest there is and the final cost!
I am working on a version of handheld just like yours and the power management board would be a god send. Would it be possible to purchase one.
That's a goal I'm aiming for. I still need to finish off testing/troubleshooting my prototype and write some firmware for it. Then I can look into order a batch that are pre-assembled!
I want to try to build one, this is such a cool project
It will be open sourced eventually, and may even be a kit if there's enough interest!
@@cncdan do you have a date in mind to open source it? Would love to try and reproduce it :D
Please, make support for configurating the handheld on Linux, if someone will try to make this project and installs Linux (Fedora/Ubuntu/Arch) they'll soon find out that configuration apps aren't working under Wine on Linux, so you can make simple .sh program or CLI script to make their experience better
The control of the LEDs over serial is very simple. I haven't got much experience coding for Linux but if someone can point me in the right direction of what SDK to setup etc I should be able to make it work.
@@cncdan I think that probably best choice will be making an app with GTK and using PySerial as serial communication utility, or you can try Qt with Qt serial port module as this is a Cross-platform one, so you can make single programm and build it for several platforms
Sorry nintendo love that 😂😂
I thought it was appropriate 🤣
Does anyone know how to make joycon controllers using arduino? Am making a handheld and also posting videos of the progress on youtube if you gyes wanna check it out❤
Look into using esp32's in your controller halves. There are a few examples of people building wireless controllers with them. You may need a wireless serial link between the two halves as I don't think you'll be able to connect two Bluetooth controllers at once.
@cncdan oh thats unfortunate 😕, i think if i used and arduino inside my handheld and then make it so that they are connected through pins would be better, because i just want it to look like a tablet and has attachable controllers for the sake of portability and usability in school since i have a bad laptop and this might be able to replace it, thanks Dan! 😊
dude ryujinx is better emulator than yuzu the reason why nintendo never attack rujinx because they dont have a paywall like how there a new 3ds emulator called lemon 3ds nintendo emulation will never end there all ways people working on a emulator
Fair enough! I don't really do any Switch emulation usually, so I'd only given Yuzu a try first because I'd heard of it!
Fiiiiiiirst!
Sure were!
I can't imagine it being hard, a potato runs better than any Nintendo product. Great games overpriced junk hardware.
Switch emulation is a pretty hefty task actually
Yeah, emulating anything requires far more power than the original system had!