Courtney Love hated Dave Grohl for being a "cool kid." She said he dressed like an outcast and listened to music that was outside the mainstream but he grew up being friends with jocks and prom queens as well as skaters and Punks and was funny and everyone liked him and wanted to hang out with him. Most people would find that description of him as a very favorable and flattering description but she meant it to be insulting.
I love nirvana and gnr was my favorite band when I was 12. Foo fighters are ok. I love Dave grohl. One of the top five drummers of all time and john bahnam is in that list. Only people/music that you love really matters. Everything thing else is just politics Have a good one
@Lax tulip he actually went to invite him but he was already gone . And remember Duff was at his worst at that time too . A month after Kurt’s death , his pancreatitis exploded and he was almost dead too ! Love him by the way !
I think it’s cool these guys can all look back at the drama and laugh as friends. Even in my lifetime people who started out as an enemy eventually became some good friends.
There is a song where Axl attacks police officers, gays, immigrants, Muslims and n___ers (anti-black racial slur) as well. It's on GnR's big unplugged record in 1989.
Ice Cube, NWA & Public Enemy all dropped several anti Jewish song lyrics and anti Korean song lyrics. Chuck D was like, "At least we fired Prof Griff for talking shit about Jews. But yall whites in the media let Guns N Roses talk about us blacks like trash."
I love how Dave tries to pass off his involvement in the feud as "just shouting some funny stuff and hitting the bar" - I mean, at the end of Nirvana's set whilst Kurt is busily smashing up the drum kit its is Dave who comes from behind the drums, seeks out the microphone and calls out/mocks Axl in front of the entire ceremony whereas Kurt & Krist pretty much kept the beef backstage otherwise, lol. Come on Dave, I know you're all friends now, but you weren't "just the drummer", you were happily stirring the pot back in '93 just like everyone else.
I was the guy wearing a Nirvana T-shirt to a GnR show in ‘93.. never did get to a Foo show, but I did check Them Crooked Vultures. Only time I ever layed eyes on our man Dave.
To me rock music is music we all had good and bad music we had fights and memories. They still both made great music. It doesn't matter if they hated each other. They were both AMAZING bands!
The truth is Dave Grohl was never an outsider or cynical like Kurt. He is a crowd pleaser he has some talent and he did some great songs but he never had the same edge as Kurt. I mean I like Foo Fighters but Dave Grohl does music for the regular people just rock 'n' roll he always wanted to be a rockstar, always wanted people to like him and to be in the little club. Never took the time to judge anyone, he's always very political he's always very nice, everyone likes him. Dave Grohl = Paul McCartney Kurt Cobain = John Lennon
Evolved? Axel went from a skinny douche to a fat douche...... lol, who threatened to sue google for “fat shaming,” him! Axel.... the king of douches in rock and roll, perhaps even more douchey than Gene Simmons.
You know? Nirvan was my favorite band back in high school. I had the same blue hat with the yellow Nirvana that Axl used to wear. I was at an age where, when Guns n Roses biggest accomplishment (AFD) had already reached it's peak, I guess I thought of Guns as being an older band and I was trying to get into the modern music. The "Grunge" music.Though, some of the timeless songs (Paradise City, Welcome To The Jungle, and Sweet Child Of Mine) were still playing on the radio occasionally. And I liked them. It's funny that you don't realize you LOVED a song/band until 30 years later. Then, they came out with "Use You're Illusion" and it had a few gems on it (November Rain, Don't Cry, and Knockin On Heaven's Door). So they were always there in the background. They'd already accomplished stardom, so to me they just seemed not like, "Oldies", but what we now call "classic rock" I wasn't as into them as much as I was with Nirvana. I graduated in 96'. So, hopefully some people reading that are 41 also will know what I'm talking about. You CAN be a fan of more than one band. it isn't the NFL. Music isn't about who's better. Now when I hear the opening riff to to "Sweet Child O' Mine", I stop dead in my tracks and just.....enjoy. Same feeling when I hear Kurt (RIP) screaming, "...With the lights out, it's less dangerous ! Here we are now, entertain us!". Why does it make me feel guilty? It really shouldn't. I wanna point out that both Kurt and Axl BOTH were pioneers and paved the way for a lot of other bands. So if this makes me "Fuckin' Crazy", then....."All Apologies"!
@@kidpoker9408 You know? You're right. November Rain and Don't Cry are HORRIBLE songs. Thank you for pointing that out. And, now my favorite Nirvana song is Beeswax instead of that TERRIBLE Teen Spirit. (It's actually Smells Like Teen Spirit, but who cares? It sucks right?)
@@kidpoker9408 as you get older ( yes it does happen) you realise you can like all a groups songs, not just ones that have less airplay , a fan doesn't have to justify their favourite songs , that is personal taste . Don't worry most people grow out of this narrow view and just enjoy the music . I like more popular songs and lesser known , that is a fan !
@@kidpoker9408 love november rain haha what the big deal, also like civil war and patience. Aneurysm and scentless apprentice prob my fav nirvana songs.
Similar story for me, I was introduced to GNR back in 89. Initially didn't like what I heard but like all really great music it gets at you slowly and once it has you, your hooked forever. I never looked at them as glam rockers at all at the time. To me this was different something much deeper and less mainstream which I guess was a reason for my early resistance. Thats why when nirvana came along it was like a natural fit and from a distance as a kid I didn't see a lot of difference in them. There has to me always been people who won't listen to something because it's not cool, too popular or mainstream. They think they are cool and individual but really they are just sheep in a different paddock.
It is interesting how Dave Grohl always puts himself out of any situation, but every nirvana interview he was always one of the biggest shit talkers. Even at the MTV awards he was the one that picked up the microphone and started mocking Axl rose.
Appetite for Destruction, Lies, Use Your Illusion and Live Era are greater than the entirety of Foo Fighters’ back catalogue. Foo Fighters, The Colour and the Shape and There is Nothing Left to Lose are the very best records Foo Fighters have to offer. One by One is hit and miss, then they jumped the shark with In Your Honour. Got a lot of love for both bands, but they are sadly well past their best (in my opinion). Same for RHCP (my freaks for life) though John Frusciante could have a change of heart at any point and his return would likely redeem them entirely. ✌🏻❤️🤘🏻
They were both signed to Geffen The biggest band that was had to advertise for the next biggest band to come It was part of the deal That helped solidify the gnr brand If you think professional music isn't controlled by corporate interest Your mistaken
@@allsystemsgo8678 Wrong. Way wrong. We aren't discussing how things eventually turned out. We are discussing at THAT time.. PJ, as much as I love them, were not as big as Nirvana in 1992.
Don't think so, Kurt genuinely didn't liked them, if you read his journal he talks about that and it was his personal journal so nobody could read it. He hated what they represented and the perfect achetype for this was Axl Rose.
To answer the question at the end of the video I’m a fan of both GnR and Nirvana. As a kid the only tapes I had besides all the Metallica albums were Use Your Illusion 2 and Nevermind. 1991 & 1992 were the best years for music imo.
Kurt criticized everything, Axl was furious at everything. Nirvana wasn't very educated on GNR sadly, they didn't recognized how rebellious Guns was to the scene. In fact GNR gave the industry more trouble than Nirvana, it's common knowledge the label could barely control Axl. Also worth noting both bands were on that same label.
I love both bands so much. GnR and Nirvana will 4ever be on my playlists. Personally, i listened to nirvana before i ever listened to GnR, but after finally listening to GnR's appetite for destruction and use you illusions 1 and 2 i fell in love with GnR alot more than Nirvana. I love in utero and Nevermind too but i find myself lidtening to more of the powerful classic rock GnR has! Still luv them all \m/
pretty amazing gift from Axl to Grohl.. Trying to find an ES-335 with dot inlays from that era is no easy task... The few that are out there & available with block inlays are between $17-$18K, so can only imagine what the rare bird cost Axl... not that it put a dent in his accumulated wealth.
GnR, Nirvana and Foo Fighters have all played a massive role in advancing rock music. The issue might be whether or not it advanced to good place. Don't get me wrong, there are still some good bands rockin out today but it seems like the "heyday" of rock has passed us by. I can only hope and pray for a resurgence to counter the constant autotuned assault on our ears that is known as today's music.
You’re referring to pop music as “today’s music” as though it’s all there is, but most good music doesn’t make it to pop radio and nobody with actual taste in music should rely on pop culture to provide good new music. A lot of people act like there’s no good music anymore when the truth is that their favorite stuff isn’t on the radio and you have to actually search for things you like. Complaining about pop music just means your musical horizon isn’t very broad and you expect others to figure out your taste for you.
@@Chiefamongsinnerz Advancing?........bullshit..."Nevermind" was just the yanks finally getting punk.......but worse the lyrics mean fuck all and all the family sang along.........pathetic...punk was dead that day
Kurt mocked Axl by saying "Hey Axl wanna be godfather to my daughter? Jokingly.. that's stuff you just don't do. I Thought it was in poor taste, granted its the past but Duff took it personally & went after Krist at the MTV awards if my knowledge is correct. Duff being from Seattle got defensive for his fellow band mate even though he knew Kurt & Krist from the Punk days in the 80s in Seattle.. it's a sad day today, Layne & Kurt were lost on this day years apart.. Yesterday I listened to Chinese Democracy from start to finish & still love it!! Since today is Layne & Kurt's anniversary, play AIC & Some Nirvana (I'm not a big Nirvana fan at all) They definitely changed the musical landscape of Rock n roll just like GN'R, AIC, & all the great bands that came before. Another great video guys!!!
Yeah..it was definitely Courtney that yelled out the Godfather shit. As I said above, Axl had every right to go off over it considering what he and his wife were going through. It was a shit move on Love's part as she wouldn't give a fuck about Axl's situation...c@#t of a move on her part actually
Always been a fan of FF and never cared much for “ Guns “, but I’m amazed to discover that Axl had class enough to give Dave that Gibson and he would end up using on Concrete and Gold. What a story. Dave is definitely a class act. Im just shocked to see it coming from Axl. I Guess there wasn’t as much hatred between bands as we were once led to believe .
It’s pretty simple. Most of the issue was that Kurt didn’t like what Axl stood for. Axl was originally a fan of nirvana, he just started reciprocating eventually. Dave is kind of a fence sitter, so without Kurt there to get him to take a stance, he folded. “a fucking sexist and a racist and a homophobe, and you can’t be on his side and be on our side. I’m sorry that I have to divide this up like this, but it’s something you can’t ignore. And besides they can’t write good music.”- Kurt
Love the Foos and Slash. GNR I really love GNR "Appetite for Destruction". I'm glad to see Dave Grohl and GNR have mended the bridges and can be apart of good Rock N Roll for the next 25 years!
I used to not like Dave grohl but after nirvana, I started liking him more, now I’m so jealous that everything he does turns to gold. I’ve been a GNR fan for 30 years now.
Pro tip: Anything with text on it should probably be entirely visible, or scrolled left to right. Not right to left. You know, because that's the way we read...and stuff.
After a Strat, the ES335s are my favorite guitars. I've been repairing guitars for almost 20 years and have been fortunate to have held and played 50s and 60s Stats, Les Pauls, 335s…all the greats. Players and guitar geeks are always talking about how great the 50s Les Paul bursts sound and play, and how you can't reproduce their tone with a new guitar, justifiably. But you don't hear about how unique the vintage ES335s sound when compared with later ones , and the differences are MUCH more noticeable, due to the semi-acoustic construction. The same thing goes for the talk about the original PAFs from the late 50s, and while they do sound great in Les Pauls, they truly sound like they were specifically intended for the 335; running through a slightly pushed JTM 45, or a Tweed…🤤 Someone giving you an early 60s ES335 as a thank you is insane. They are IMO the best playing years.
I was there too! and then I was at the Foo concert the next night. I have been to a lot of concerts but those were the 2 best shows I have ever been to.
It's interesting how GnR escaped the hair metal extinction event known as Grunge. I guess they were kind of in their own category, hard rock American band.
I remember all of it. Both bands were great and still are....But I will say after Kurts death I can’t listen to Nirvana anymore it’s just way to depressing...To me nirvana was just a vehicle for kurt to publicly display his demons. A real drag that he’s gone...The seeds of dysfunction from childhood can can become our reaper as adults. Miss ya Kurt....By the way Your daughter has grown now and I see you in her.
@@rerelie1242 I was gonna say the same thing. His playing was far below average. I never got the Nirvana craze anyway. Kurt was a heroin junkie not a musician. So many of his lyrics make no sense
So this is how childish everybody's being maybe alcohol should have sang Smells Like Teen Spirit I'm a jackass, who cares they were both good bands they're both cry babies and that's just fact
People grow up, it's all water under the bridge now. Krist and Duff are friends now. Who knows if Kurt was still alive he might not care anymore either, who knows? The drama happened almost 30 years ago, if you're going to keep a grudge that long for something so stupid, you're a sad person
Fan of both. FF is my go to music for working out. Also, a fan of grown men putting petty differences aside to enjoy the more important things in life.
Hate is too harsh a word, when nirvana came along there where the youth of there time and they just didn't take anyone around them seriously! Kurt had that fiery passion of a pissed off teenage punk with rebellion in his soul, who wanted nothing more but to trail a fucking blaze. And he did!
I’m a fan of music. Faith No More, Beastie Boys, Bob Dylan, The Beatles, GNR, Jimi Hendrix, Cypress Hill, Van Morrison, The Doors, Mr Bungle, Prince, EverClear, Los Lobos, Blondie, I mean if I like it I listen to it.
GNR is my favorite band of all time but I respect Kurt's reasons for not wanting to work with Axl. He was a piece of shit but hes mellowed quite a bit now that hes in his late 50s.
I'm a huge fan of both bands, they both have their own unique signature sound that you can instantly recognize which makes any band a great band. Rock on Gn'R.🤘 Rock on Foo Fighters🤘
I love GNR because they have this "Nasty attitude" rock sound to them, and I loved nirvana for years. I'm trying to get into GNR now a little bit more, don't want to become some super fan like. i am with bands like at the drive in, but I just want to listen to their songs, because they really kick ass and i'm not talking about the hits, yes welcome to the jungle kicks ass but i mean songs like mr brownstone and its so easy and those gnarly demos before appetitie form 87
Angry Anderson even said Axl would be playing his piano and singing at parties.. swooning and crooning the groupie sluts. He never actually said it straight out but it certainly sounded like Angry thought Axl was a poser. It definitely wasn't just Kurt who had problems with the guy....they (Nirvana and Gn'R) were just 2 of the most popular bands at the time so their fueds and digs at each other got more noticed.
Axl promoted the very unhealthy idea of being an abusive macho rockstar. The idea that it was ok to treat women like shit or refuse to play for your own fans. That was enough a reason to hate him.
"YOU GET NOTHING FOR NOTHING IF THAT'S WHAT YOU DO/ TURN AROUND BITCH I GOT A USE FOR YOU/ BESIDES... YOU AIN'T GOT NOTHING BETTER TO DO/ AND I'M BORED." That is the song DAVE managed to proudly and loudly perform with his gunners idols. It figures. No further, Your Honor ;)
I blame the feud on Kurt. I like both bands but let's be serious, GN'R mop the floor with Nirvana. Also, today (April 5, 2019) is the 25th Anniversary of Kurt's death.
I was a big fan of guns as teenager and as I got older I really loved Foo Fighters, and something flipped and I don't like guns now. But I love Slash, his style and tone. I think this friendship is awesome
I love Nirvana's music, but as a person, Kurt never impressed me. Look, he was a depressive guy with this huge chip on his shoulder and who felt it was part of his personality to not only shun "fame", but make sure everyone knew how much he despised it. Yeah, ok, whatever, you do you. Axl's no sweetheart either but, if I had to bet, this was more Kurt's fault (with his trusty sidekick/trashhole Courtney) than anyone else. Just my feeling, I could be wrong.
SN2903 definitely hair. They only changed their look and sound once “grunge” music exploded. Can’t really blame em .. all the 80 bands were doing it. Bon Jovi and axl were the worst.
Kurt was repulsed by fame, he didn’t care about pleasing the fans. I don’t think Dave wanted fans necessarily, he didn’t NEED fame, but he appreciates his fan base and does want to please them.
It's such total bollocks. Kurt loved the idea of being a rockstar. He clearly spent years growing up, dreaming about being the new Robert Plant. If he didn't want fame, why did he bother? God, you dimwits are so naive.
Dave Grohl can be hypocrital at times on numerous levels, and you obviously didn't research this in an unbiased manner. Do a search for audio tapes that exist of words exchanged between the men themselves when cameras weren't present and recorded label reprentation would find it hard to push any legalities on public liable, slander or defamation of any sort. Both were misquoted in the media by representation since they had to share a label. If you listen the men, from their own mouths, it was regarding opposing views and actions regarding women, homophibua and abuse. A direct threat was even made on one occession. That's all for people to hear. As I said, please research it and add the audio as an addendum if you want to be impartial in the name of music history. I don't have a UA-cam channel, so I have no agenda. I'm not trying to direct your subscribers attention to anyone else's videos. I'm simply referring you to facts as opposed to heresy. Also, one has a documented history of domestic violence. The other was charged with it, but the charges were dropped when the supposed victim admitted to self-inflicted wounds and actually getting physical with him instead. He didn't hurt her in return. There are police reports to back that up as well. I'm not stating names here to be as impartial as possible because music study is a very interesting thing. If you want to present factual content, however, it would be wise to fact check yourself without prejudice. All the best to you...
Kurt and Axl: 😡⚔️😡
Dave and Slash in the background: 😃🤘 🤘 😃
Lmao 😂
Hahahah! 🤣
That would be it lol
I feel like Dave is just the type of guy who is cool with everyone. He just wants to hang out and jam.
That's pretty dope
SamaRoshi yeah I bet he’s cool to hang out with.
SamaRoshi Right on.
Courtney Love hated Dave Grohl for being a "cool kid." She said he dressed like an outcast and listened to music that was outside the mainstream but he grew up being friends with jocks and prom queens as well as skaters and Punks and was funny and everyone liked him and wanted to hang out with him. Most people would find that description of him as a very favorable and flattering description but she meant it to be insulting.
The real reason Kurt hated axl was cuz axl is a a sexist and he beat women, I think it's fucked up that would hang around with someone like that
@@JG-ux7of I totally understand her.
So funny Kurt's alias for hotels was Axl's real name: William Bailey 😂😂😂😂
It was mostly to mess with the media
Lmao kurt was hilarious
He did he used Axls real name thats fuckn hillarous
@@krisfrederick5001 Kurt really did use Axls name.
Well, Kurt's dead, so there's that.
I love all 3 bands. GnR Nirvana and Foo. Good music is good music
@Harry Baals Harry NO Baals ;-)
Exactly
I love nirvana and gnr was my favorite band when I was 12. Foo fighters are ok. I love Dave grohl. One of the top five drummers of all time and john bahnam is in that list.
Only people/music that you love really matters.
Everything thing else is just politics
Have a good one
Exactly.
@@girlspooptoo8567 girlscandrinktoo
I'm a fan of both bands.Appetite for Destruction and Nevermind are two albums that I can listen to all the way through.
ADHD?
I will skip the first song of both albums everytime because they are soooooo overplayed
Nirvana N'Roses
Appetite For Bleach
Nevermind Your Illusion
Spaghetti Utero
*ok..i'll go*
@@totalfckinggodhead they are overplayed but still incredible songs
Dude, I shame myself for commenting that because It reads like a snob is speaking. My Nevermind usually starts on Breed though
HI Axl! HI Axl! Where's Axl? HI Axl! HI Axl! HI Axl!
Shut up bitch.
Yeah then he ate that 'hi axl'
Terry Hesticles dude chill
Where is Kurt? Oh yeah he is coward couldn’t take it so he kills himself.
@@revolutionday1 You obviously beat your women
Duff McKagan was one of the last people to talk to Kurt Cobain.
Yep...in the airport
I wish he had invited him to his house that day.
@Ean Zipp he did, you’re right
@Lax tulip he actually went to invite him but he was already gone . And remember Duff was at his worst at that time too . A month after Kurt’s death , his pancreatitis exploded and he was almost dead too ! Love him by the way !
We’ll sort of true. He’s the last famous person Kurt saw. He did see others and went out for lunch the next day
“I was just a drummer so I yelled some loud, funny shit and hit the bar” - Dave Grohl
G N’ R and Nirvana would’ve been an absolute epic concert
Man, I went to the wrong school. Imagine having Dave Grohl & Slash playing at your local school.
I’m happy for Dave. He seems like a genuinely nice guy.
He’s been called the nicest man in the industry. He’s so much fun in his shows too😊
Nice, but he is a perfectionist. All business when it comes to making great music. Not afraid to hurt someone to achieve his goals.
Fucking ENOUGH with this, “Dave’s the nicest guy” horse shit...he’s a satanist douchebag
@@mr.smithgnrsmith7808 u Would Know
Maxshade7 just don't fight at his shows.
The both of them-Kurt and Axl-needed really good therapists.
Truth is we all do
@@2confrontational Some of us aren’t suicidal drug addicts or perpetrators of domestic violence......
For the complete opposite reasons, which is the funny part
@@gene8172 yeah but all of us have problems, life problems or emotional problems, so yes, we all do need therapy
@@MorgansTrainClips axl did get therapy and he is diagnosed with bipolar disorder
I think it’s cool these guys can all look back at the drama and laugh as friends. Even in my lifetime people who started out as an enemy eventually became some good friends.
There's a recording of Kurt saying he hated Axl because he beats women is homophobic and sexist. it was more than just "they're corporate rockstars".
There is a song where Axl attacks police officers, gays, immigrants, Muslims and n___ers (anti-black racial slur) as well. It's on GnR's big unplugged record in 1989.
Ice Cube, NWA & Public Enemy all dropped several anti Jewish song lyrics and anti Korean song lyrics. Chuck D was like, "At least we fired Prof Griff for talking shit about Jews. But yall whites in the media let Guns N Roses talk about us blacks like trash."
@@andrewjackson7758 And GNR and NWA partied and bbq'd together.
@@andrewjackson7758 1 in a million
@@SuperSatana69 This may also be true. NWA was pretty freely throwing the N word around themselves at the time. Lol
I love how Dave tries to pass off his involvement in the feud as "just shouting some funny stuff and hitting the bar" - I mean, at the end of Nirvana's set whilst Kurt is busily smashing up the drum kit its is Dave who comes from behind the drums, seeks out the microphone and calls out/mocks Axl in front of the entire ceremony whereas Kurt & Krist pretty much kept the beef backstage otherwise, lol. Come on Dave, I know you're all friends now, but you weren't "just the drummer", you were happily stirring the pot back in '93 just like everyone else.
Exactly the dude has always been a huge shit talker. Even on the fued they had with Metallica.
Drummers, in general, are grade-A shit stirrers. 😂
true.
I was the guy wearing a Nirvana T-shirt to a GnR show in ‘93.. never did get to a Foo show, but I did check Them Crooked Vultures. Only time I ever layed eyes on our man Dave.
To me rock music is music we all had good and bad music we had fights and memories. They still both made great music. It doesn't matter if they hated each other. They were both AMAZING bands!
The truth is Dave Grohl was never an outsider or cynical like Kurt. He is a crowd pleaser he has some talent and he did some great songs but he never had the same edge as Kurt. I mean I like Foo Fighters but Dave Grohl does music for the regular people just rock 'n' roll he always wanted to be a rockstar, always wanted people to like him and to be in the little club. Never took the time to judge anyone, he's always very political he's always very nice, everyone likes him.
Dave Grohl = Paul McCartney Kurt Cobain = John Lennon
Marcelo Durham spot on assessment
Wow! Perfectly put
Kurt was a loser. Grohl is King 👑
Tobias LOL...
That was brilliant. And simple enough. Dave Gilmour and Roger Waters ??? LOL
cool episode....Axl has evolved so much as a human...it's been an incredible ride being a fan all these years...glad everyone is still with us too!!
Gun's n Rose's blow dogs for quarters
Evolved? Axel went from a skinny douche to a fat douche...... lol, who threatened to sue google for “fat shaming,” him! Axel.... the king of douches in rock and roll, perhaps even more douchey than Gene Simmons.
Has he? Did he quit beating women ?
@@wewho1279 has he? axl become better person now and he take care of his family
@@wewho1279 He started to take his bipolar medications so yeah, he is chill now
I listen to both GNR and Foo Fighters. I actually listened to GNR and Nirvana in high school and Foo Fighters and GNR in college.
You know? Nirvan was my favorite band back in high school. I had the same blue hat with the yellow Nirvana that Axl used to wear. I was at an age where, when Guns n Roses biggest accomplishment (AFD) had already reached it's peak, I guess I thought of Guns as being an older band and I was trying to get into the modern music. The "Grunge" music.Though, some of the timeless songs (Paradise City, Welcome To The Jungle, and Sweet Child Of Mine) were still playing on the radio occasionally. And I liked them. It's funny that you don't realize you LOVED a song/band until 30 years later. Then, they came out with "Use You're Illusion" and it had a few gems on it (November Rain, Don't Cry, and Knockin On Heaven's Door). So they were always there in the background. They'd already accomplished stardom, so to me they just seemed not like, "Oldies", but what we now call "classic rock" I wasn't as into them as much as I was with Nirvana. I graduated in 96'. So, hopefully some people reading that are 41 also will know what I'm talking about. You CAN be a fan of more than one band. it isn't the NFL. Music isn't about who's better. Now when I hear the opening riff to to "Sweet Child O' Mine", I stop dead in my tracks and just.....enjoy. Same feeling when I hear Kurt (RIP) screaming, "...With the lights out, it's less dangerous
! Here we are now, entertain us!". Why does it make me feel guilty? It really shouldn't. I wanna point out that both Kurt and Axl BOTH were pioneers and paved the way for a lot of other bands. So if this makes me "Fuckin' Crazy", then....."All Apologies"!
november rain dont cry gems let me guess your fav nirvana song is teen spirit
@@kidpoker9408 You know? You're right. November Rain and Don't Cry are HORRIBLE songs. Thank you for pointing that out. And, now my favorite Nirvana song is Beeswax instead of that TERRIBLE Teen Spirit. (It's actually Smells Like Teen Spirit, but who cares? It sucks right?)
@@kidpoker9408 as you get older ( yes it does happen) you realise you can like all a groups songs, not just ones that have less airplay , a fan doesn't have to justify their favourite songs , that is personal taste . Don't worry most people grow out of this narrow view and just enjoy the music . I like more popular songs and lesser known , that is a fan !
@@kidpoker9408 love november rain haha what the big deal, also like civil war and patience. Aneurysm and scentless apprentice prob my fav nirvana songs.
Similar story for me, I was introduced to GNR back in 89. Initially didn't like what I heard but like all really great music it gets at you slowly and once it has you, your hooked forever. I never looked at them as glam rockers at all at the time. To me this was different something much deeper and less mainstream which I guess was a reason for my early resistance. Thats why when nirvana came along it was like a natural fit and from a distance as a kid I didn't see a lot of difference in them. There has to me always been people who won't listen to something because it's not cool, too popular or mainstream. They think they are cool and individual but really they are just sheep in a different paddock.
It is interesting how Dave Grohl always puts himself out of any situation, but every nirvana interview he was always one of the biggest shit talkers. Even at the MTV awards he was the one that picked up the microphone and started mocking Axl rose.
Exactly...
I was just thinking about the mtv music awards, "Hey Axel, hey asshole"
If you're a fan of "music', you're a fan of BOTH.
I love music and think GnR sucks shit.
@@Guitarisforgrins nah.. i think nirvana is suck shit
Appetite for Destruction, Lies, Use Your Illusion and Live Era are greater than the entirety of Foo Fighters’ back catalogue.
Foo Fighters, The Colour and the Shape and There is Nothing Left to Lose are the very best records Foo Fighters have to offer. One by One is hit and miss, then they jumped the shark with In Your Honour.
Got a lot of love for both bands, but they are sadly well past their best (in my opinion). Same for RHCP (my freaks for life) though John Frusciante could have a change of heart at any point and his return would likely redeem them entirely.
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Fan of both.. love how their stories have come together..great guys..
They were both signed to Geffen
The biggest band that was had to advertise for the next biggest band to come
It was part of the deal
That helped solidify the gnr brand
If you think professional music isn't controlled by corporate interest
Your mistaken
Good point but I'm pretty sure Axl genuinely liked them.
Nirvana was never the biggest band. Pearl jam was much bigger than Nirvana.
@@allsystemsgo8678
Wrong. Way wrong. We aren't discussing how things eventually turned out. We are discussing at THAT time.. PJ, as much as I love them, were not as big as Nirvana in 1992.
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Don't think so, Kurt genuinely didn't liked them, if you read his journal he talks about that and it was his personal journal so nobody could read it. He hated what they represented and the perfect achetype for this was Axl Rose.
Dave is a real down to earth guy and he was like that when he was in Nirvana. Always fascinating to hear him tell stories of the past.
To answer the question at the end of the video I’m a fan of both GnR and Nirvana. As a kid the only tapes I had besides all the Metallica albums were Use Your Illusion 2 and Nevermind. 1991 & 1992 were the best years for music imo.
Kurt criticized everything, Axl was furious at everything. Nirvana wasn't very educated on GNR sadly, they didn't recognized how rebellious Guns was to the scene. In fact GNR gave the industry more trouble than Nirvana, it's common knowledge the label could barely control Axl. Also worth noting both bands were on that same label.
I love both bands so much. GnR and Nirvana will 4ever be on my playlists. Personally, i listened to nirvana before i ever listened to GnR, but after finally listening to GnR's appetite for destruction and use you illusions 1 and 2 i fell in love with GnR alot more than Nirvana. I love in utero and Nevermind too but i find myself lidtening to more of the powerful classic rock GnR has! Still luv them all \m/
Guns and Roses are fucking awesome. I used to hate their sound but it grew better with time.
I love them both! Some great people in those bands! Slash, Duff, Dave, all of them! Big Love and Respect to them all!
I'd love to see Axl singing Nirvana songs
Said no-one, ever. I think even Axl has more respect than that.
Wanna see Axl Rose covering nevermind list in tribute to Kurt than for the world.
That is the biggest blasfemy I ever seen in my life. May all gods forbid.
What does krist say?
Then Kurt will come back and haunt Axl to terror
If you haven’t read Dave’s autobiography, please do. It’s an amazing read/listen. Dave is a great person and some awesome stories.
pretty amazing gift from Axl to Grohl.. Trying to find an ES-335 with dot inlays from that era is no easy task... The few that are out there & available with block inlays are between $17-$18K, so can only imagine what the rare bird cost Axl... not that it put a dent in his accumulated wealth.
GnR, Nirvana and Foo Fighters have all played a massive role in advancing rock music. The issue might be whether or not it advanced to good place.
Don't get me wrong, there are still some good bands rockin out today but it seems like the "heyday" of rock has passed us by. I can only hope and pray for a resurgence to counter the constant autotuned assault on our ears that is known as today's music.
Drew Cook I agree, but I’m not sure I like where the Foo’s took it though. It seems pussified by Pop music compared to GNR & Nirvana.
Amen...
You’re referring to pop music as “today’s music” as though it’s all there is, but most good music doesn’t make it to pop radio and nobody with actual taste in music should rely on pop culture to provide good new music. A lot of people act like there’s no good music anymore when the truth is that their favorite stuff isn’t on the radio and you have to actually search for things you like. Complaining about pop music just means your musical horizon isn’t very broad and you expect others to figure out your taste for you.
@@jamescarter3196 exactly. There's plenty of good artists out there. Mac Demarco is a genius for one. Plus plenty of good bands.
@@Chiefamongsinnerz Advancing?........bullshit..."Nevermind" was just the yanks finally getting punk.......but worse the lyrics mean fuck all and all the family sang along.........pathetic...punk was dead that day
Kurt mocked Axl by saying "Hey Axl wanna be godfather to my daughter? Jokingly.. that's stuff you just don't do. I Thought it was in poor taste, granted its the past but Duff took it personally & went after Krist at the MTV awards if my knowledge is correct. Duff being from Seattle got defensive for his fellow band mate even though he knew Kurt & Krist from the Punk days in the 80s in Seattle.. it's a sad day today, Layne & Kurt were lost on this day years apart.. Yesterday I listened to Chinese Democracy from start to finish & still love it!! Since today is Layne & Kurt's anniversary, play AIC & Some Nirvana (I'm not a big Nirvana fan at all) They definitely changed the musical landscape of Rock n roll just like GN'R, AIC, & all the great bands that came before. Another great video guys!!!
The truth is Courtney said those that things about "hey axl do you wanna be the godfather to our daughter?" . So Courtney made it first.
Duff has admitted to knowing Chris Cornell and Kim thadyil from Soundgarden, he didn’t know Kurt or kris!!
Yeah..it was definitely Courtney that yelled out the Godfather shit. As I said above, Axl had every right to go off over it considering what he and his wife were going through. It was a shit move on Love's part as she wouldn't give a fuck about Axl's situation...c@#t of a move on her part actually
Kurt and Krist were never from Seattle. They spent the 80s living in Aberdeen and then in Olympia. Stop lying.
Always been a fan of FF and never cared much for “ Guns “, but I’m amazed to discover that Axl had class enough to give Dave that Gibson and he would end up using on Concrete and Gold. What a story. Dave is definitely a class act. Im just shocked to see it coming from Axl. I Guess there wasn’t as much hatred between bands as we were once led to believe .
It’s pretty simple.
Most of the issue was that Kurt didn’t like what Axl stood for.
Axl was originally a fan of nirvana, he just started reciprocating eventually.
Dave is kind of a fence sitter, so without Kurt there to get him to take a stance, he folded.
“a fucking sexist and a racist and a homophobe, and you can’t be on his side and be on our side. I’m sorry that I have to divide this up like this, but it’s something you can’t ignore. And besides they can’t write good music.”- Kurt
Hi Axole lol. I always loved all these bands. Nirvana, Guns and Roses and now Foo Fighters.
'I was born for chaos' What the fuck Dave You've played it safe your whole life man. You're the straightest guy in rock n roll!
No, not strait ua-cam.com/video/50tkoZSBIRs/v-deo.html
Love the Foos and Slash. GNR I really love GNR "Appetite for Destruction". I'm glad to see Dave Grohl and GNR have mended the bridges and can be apart of good Rock N Roll for the next 25 years!
I used to not like Dave grohl but after nirvana, I started liking him more, now I’m so jealous that everything he does turns to gold. I’ve been a GNR fan for 30 years now.
Pro tip: Anything with text on it should probably be entirely visible, or scrolled left to right. Not right to left. You know, because that's the way we read...and stuff.
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@@manhabbit94 ooooo. Wanna fuckin cookie?
Fan of Guns only, but Dave is a cool guy and a great drummer.
I love Gnr, Foo Fighters and Nirvana... but GnR first :)
Love GNR, not a huge fan of FF but they are one of the best bands I've seen live, great songs to sing along to
After a Strat, the ES335s are my favorite guitars. I've been repairing guitars for almost 20 years and have been fortunate to have held and played 50s and 60s Stats, Les Pauls, 335s…all the greats. Players and guitar geeks are always talking about how great the 50s Les Paul bursts sound and play, and how you can't reproduce their tone with a new guitar, justifiably. But you don't hear about how unique the vintage ES335s sound when compared with later ones , and the differences are MUCH more noticeable, due to the semi-acoustic construction. The same thing goes for the talk about the original PAFs from the late 50s, and while they do sound great in Les Pauls, they truly sound like they were specifically intended for the 335; running through a slightly pushed JTM 45, or a Tweed…🤤
Someone giving you an early 60s ES335 as a thank you is insane. They are IMO the best playing years.
I was there at the Tulsa show when Dave came out for Paradise City. It was an awesome night!
Johnny Hot Sauce Me too!! It was like my teenage years altogether on one stage. I was beyond happy! ✨🤘🏻✨
I was there too! and then I was at the Foo concert the next night. I have been to a lot of concerts but those were the 2 best shows I have ever been to.
Whoa! That had to be an awesome experience.
It's interesting how GnR escaped the hair metal extinction event known as Grunge. I guess they were kind of in their own category, hard rock American band.
very cool hearing daves side of playing on slashs album.
You are right Dave, music changes the world.
Imagining Duff trying to kick Krist's ass is hilarious.
Haha... yeah... I love both of them but in my head I'm picturing both of them with eyes closed and a flurry of mostly missed slaps.
@@MonkyMonk729 That's fucking hilarious, just got the mental image. Then they'd end up hugging it out.
Duff could probably beat up everyone in Nirvana or Guns N Roses.
Battle of the giants ahahahaha
@@101spacegirl I know right? Gumps
I remember all of it. Both bands were great and still are....But I will say after Kurts death I can’t listen to Nirvana anymore it’s just way to depressing...To me nirvana was just a vehicle for kurt to publicly display his demons. A real drag that he’s gone...The seeds of dysfunction from childhood can can become our reaper as adults. Miss ya Kurt....By the way Your daughter has grown now and I see you in her.
And Frances older than Kurt now.
Nonsense. Nirvana's music was more than just that.
Kurt should have came out and started playing Paradise City at the MTV awards, that would have been fucking epic.
He was too shitty at playing guitar to do so
@@rerelie1242 and his voice wasn't as strong as axls
@@rerelie1242 I was gonna say the same thing. His playing was far below average. I never got the Nirvana craze anyway. Kurt was a heroin junkie not a musician. So many of his lyrics make no sense
@@beyondbeleef1013 be good to hear some of your stuff
So this is how childish everybody's being maybe alcohol should have sang Smells Like Teen Spirit I'm a jackass, who cares they were both good bands they're both cry babies and that's just fact
The It’s So Easy collab was fucking incredible.
I love both bands!!!
Krist fighting Duff...a third degree black belt...yeah that wouldn't have ended well for Krist.
I like both bands.
Pretty rad how axl turned it around and showed love to Dave
People grow up, it's all water under the bridge now. Krist and Duff are friends now. Who knows if Kurt was still alive he might not care anymore either, who knows? The drama happened almost 30 years ago, if you're going to keep a grudge that long for something so stupid, you're a sad person
Not forgetting that Duff was one of the last people to see Kurt alive, as they were on the same flight together from L.A. to Seattle before his death
You sir are speaking the truth.
Foo fighters Awesome band
Fan of both. FF is my go to music for working out. Also, a fan of grown men putting petty differences aside to enjoy the more important things in life.
Kurt hated pretty much everyone. He even hated Pearl Jam.
davjaxify That’s a damn lie.
He like Metallica... especially whiplash
@@Borganov20 other then him constantly insulting them, lol
Not true. He constantly promoted artists he liked
Hate is too harsh a word, when nirvana came along there where the youth of there time and they just didn't take anyone around them seriously! Kurt had that fiery passion of a pissed off teenage punk with rebellion in his soul, who wanted nothing more but to trail a fucking blaze. And he did!
I’m a fan of music. Faith No More, Beastie Boys, Bob Dylan, The Beatles, GNR, Jimi Hendrix, Cypress Hill, Van Morrison, The Doors, Mr Bungle, Prince, EverClear, Los Lobos, Blondie, I mean if I like it I listen to it.
Dave is quite the diplomat
Yeah seems like a cool dude
This entire channel is very informative content! Love the hard work!
I'm a GnR fan. I like Nirvana's music, but I'm not a die hard fan like I am of GnR.
Fack I saw them on that tour. Metallica, GNR and Faith no More. My life would have been complete if I saw them there.
Big fan of all 3 band's efforts.
Look forward to hearing new music from eighter camp...or BOTH camps.
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If Kurt knew Dave and Axl would end up being friends he'd hit the roof.....again!..
GNR is my favorite band of all time but I respect Kurt's reasons for not wanting to work with Axl. He was a piece of shit but hes mellowed quite a bit now that hes in his late 50s.
Keep it up! Branching off to different types of videos!#G N R CENTRAL
I'm a huge fan of both bands, they both have their own unique signature sound that you can instantly recognize which makes any band a great band. Rock on Gn'R.🤘
Rock on Foo Fighters🤘
I love GNR because they have this "Nasty attitude" rock sound to them, and I loved nirvana for years. I'm trying to get into GNR now a little bit more, don't want to become some super fan like. i am with bands like at the drive in, but I just want to listen to their songs, because they really kick ass and i'm not talking about the hits, yes welcome to the jungle kicks ass but i mean songs like mr brownstone and its so easy and those gnarly demos before appetitie form 87
Kurt completely misunderstood Guns N Roses, it's because he was surrounded by punk elitists unfortunately
The People around where just a bunch of feminists
And Courtney😣
Guns and roses were a bunch of rock jock douchebags
Angry Anderson even said Axl would be playing his piano and singing at parties.. swooning and crooning the groupie sluts. He never actually said it straight out but it certainly sounded like Angry thought Axl was a poser. It definitely wasn't just Kurt who had problems with the guy....they (Nirvana and Gn'R) were just 2 of the most popular bands at the time so their fueds and digs at each other got more noticed.
Axl promoted the very unhealthy idea of being an abusive macho rockstar. The idea that it was ok to treat women like shit or refuse to play for your own fans. That was enough a reason to hate him.
"YOU GET NOTHING FOR NOTHING IF THAT'S WHAT YOU DO/ TURN AROUND BITCH I GOT A USE FOR YOU/ BESIDES... YOU AIN'T GOT NOTHING BETTER TO DO/ AND I'M BORED." That is the song DAVE managed to proudly and loudly perform with his gunners idols. It figures. No further, Your Honor ;)
Love both. How can you not?
Hi Axl, Hi Axl, Hi Axl!!
Lol !!!
WHERE'S AXL? HI AXL!
I blame the feud on Kurt.
I like both bands but let's be serious, GN'R mop the floor with Nirvana.
Also, today (April 5, 2019) is the 25th Anniversary of Kurt's death.
As a Kurt fan, I agree. Cobain was being a douche to Axl. He didn't deserve the hate he got from Kurt.
Rip Kurt
Kurt didn’t like Guns ‘N Roses because Axl rose was making misogynist/sexist statements and he didn’t want to be associated with that.
Kurt was a SJW/male feminist. The boy had issues!
I was a big fan of guns as teenager and as I got older I really loved Foo Fighters, and something flipped and I don't like guns now. But I love Slash, his style and tone. I think this friendship is awesome
The audio from the MTV awards when Nirvana were on stage,. with Dave going "Hi Axl. Hi Axl! HI AXL!!" is beyond funny xD
Great in depth look at the battle!i was on team GNR but I appreciated the art nirvana produced as well
I love the story!!! I grew up with all these bands!!
I'm a fan of all great music.
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Fans of all.
Seen them both, they’re great.
I love Nirvana's music, but as a person, Kurt never impressed me. Look, he was a depressive guy with this huge chip on his shoulder and who felt it was part of his personality to not only shun "fame", but make sure everyone knew how much he despised it. Yeah, ok, whatever, you do you. Axl's no sweetheart either but, if I had to bet, this was more Kurt's fault (with his trusty sidekick/trashhole Courtney) than anyone else. Just my feeling, I could be wrong.
Nah man Kurt didn't like him because Axel beat up his girlfriend. Can't fault him for that.
Kurt seemed like a real nice bloke. Maybe a bit too nice.
Fan of both. Great rock history…great rock present,
3 of the most influential bands ever period...
look how big axls head is to his body in hat pic...lmfao
I think everybody liked both groups at the time. Could have been a stunt by Geffen records.
Both awesome dudes .
I like the Foo Fighters and GnR; but, only liked a couple go through Nirvana songs. Foo Fighters!!!!
Sounds to me like Kurt was just projecting his dislike for hair metal onto Axl without even knowing him. A bit immature imo
Agree esp since GNR isn't hair metal and Axl is a serious songwriter and artist. I bet they may have got along if they got to know each other.
@@SN2903 exactly
Nah Axl should’ve gotten the hint. That shits probably annoying
it was , but he was young
SN2903 definitely hair. They only changed their look and sound once “grunge” music exploded. Can’t really blame em .. all the 80 bands were doing it. Bon Jovi and axl were the worst.
Slash sounds like a stand up guy.
"Hey mom,I think that Grohl you bought me when I was a kid broke..
It used to be Lithium but now it's all monkey wrench"
Fuk dude,you sure put ur fukn heart n soul into this channel.Salute you
Brother.New Zealand
Kurt was repulsed by fame, he didn’t care about pleasing the fans. I don’t think Dave wanted fans necessarily, he didn’t NEED fame, but he appreciates his fan base and does want to please them.
Kurt was a fool
It's such total bollocks. Kurt loved the idea of being a rockstar. He clearly spent years growing up, dreaming about being the new Robert Plant. If he didn't want fame, why did he bother? God, you dimwits are so naive.
Dave Grohl can be hypocrital at times on numerous levels, and you obviously didn't research this in an unbiased manner. Do a search for audio tapes that exist of words exchanged between the men themselves when cameras weren't present and recorded label reprentation would find it hard to push any legalities on public liable, slander or defamation of any sort. Both were misquoted in the media by representation since they had to share a label. If you listen the men, from their own mouths, it was regarding opposing views and actions regarding women, homophibua and abuse. A direct threat was even made on one occession. That's all for people to hear. As I said, please research it and add the audio as an addendum if you want to be impartial in the name of music history. I don't have a UA-cam channel, so I have no agenda. I'm not trying to direct your subscribers attention to anyone else's videos. I'm simply referring you to facts as opposed to heresy. Also, one has a documented history of domestic violence. The other was charged with it, but the charges were dropped when the supposed victim admitted to self-inflicted wounds and actually getting physical with him instead. He didn't hurt her in return. There are police reports to back that up as well. I'm not stating names here to be as impartial as possible because music study is a very interesting thing. If you want to present factual content, however, it would be wise to fact check yourself without prejudice. All the best to you...
Both great bands
Great video!