MARSHALL DSL1H EMULATED OUT SOFTUBE,ANY GOOD?
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
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Marshall amps have built in softube technology so we can use an emulatored out straight into an interface for direct recording with no Impulse Response.
I thought I’d give it a test.....What do you think?
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@i Jamguitar that’s right yeah
Thanks for uploading this one, I could not find any decent video about the emulated output on that head. Cheers!
I problem yeah I couldn’t find one anywhere ,with some eq and an ir it would kill,but it’s definitely useable
Ive owned the DSL100HR since a month after launch and its a great head. Ive only used the emulated out a handful of times as it was intended but use it normally for my tuner pedal. That way i dont have to have yet another true bypass pedal adding capacitance to my signal chain. I build pedals from scratch often and have a pedal buying addiction so the pedals on my board are already too many. In a perfect world without cable capacitance in the absence of enough buffered pedals id be running about 20 pedals. But since we dont live in a perfect world ive got it down to 14 at the moment (6 upfront with the rest in the loop). So being able to keep the tuner out of the signal chain is great. Plus i can keep the amp in standby and tune up silently since the emulated out still works in standby and in the 50w/100w modes. Im also able to have just one cable connected to my tuner at its input using the emulated out rather than having to run my signal through the pedals in and outs.
As far as the quality of the emulated out used as intended into my D.A.W. goes im kind of neutral in my feelings. Its not excellent but its certainly useable if that's absolutely necessary. Especially if you add some good plugins to further shape the tone. I personally find that the quality you get from actually micing the cabs is worth the extra effort and will only really be happy/proud of a recording if it was directly mic'd. With the emulated out you just dont get a lot of tonal/harmonic content. Its like you turned the resolution down a ton. Its the same performance but all the nuance and tonal quality of the tubes is lost. Im glad Marshall decided to include emulated out but only because its one more feature id never need but am glad i have "just in case" (The same way someone who lived in Alaska would need a beach ball "just in case"). And even more so because as i said before i can use it for my tuner pedal. I think Marshall should label the Emulated Out for both of those purposes on the next generation (Emulated and Tuner Out) lol.
That is an excellent idea right there,never thought of using that way,although I’m not a big pedal fanatic tbh.
Thanks for the comment though very interesting
Love Marshall tones!
Just ran this by SEND out to my Helix with some IRs and it sounds amazeballs. Yes, I said Amazeballs.
🤣🤣
Well, that sounds great, thanks for the video!
No worries thanks bud
The emulated out sounds great! I suppose this set up would sound a little different with a different distortion pedal. I have the Wampler Plexi-Drive Deluxe.
@@ElectroIllusion it’s only used as a clean boost so it’s only really adding overtones it’s mainly the gain in the head I’m using
They have some legit Marshall IRs and for a mini amp that sounds pretty good. I'd use it for demos and silent recording. Maybe a bit of EQ and saturation to give a better stereo spread, but on the whole it sounds like mid 90s metalcore to me. Which isn't a bad thing at all.
Think Mean Season and Starkweather.
Yeah I think it needs an ir tbh it’s not a bad feature though like you say especially on a cheap head like this
I know this is an older video but it would be cool to hear it with a better IR from the send out
@@mattvdh I’m sure I did one using the CaptorX somewhere
Finally a usable illustration of this, thanks man.. Wish they left more high end mids in it.. Sounds too muffled.. Only as a kind of a backup worst case scenario, def not Great sounding.. But kind of usable.. Surely there are options with send and external ir loader or even better a real mic if possible.. But still, its a missed opportunity, being released nit that long ago, 2018
Yes definitely better off using an external ir loader
The DSL20HR is AWESOME!
Yeah so is the 100 too tbh
That actually sounds really good. Maybe not quite as good as when you say Marshall. But it's close.
Hey I have the DSL40 and didn't know about this. So from the emulated out into the Line-In on the interface.
The hiZ input would send the unbalanced signal I believe
Yeah sends a signal that’s not bad but I’d still add an ir mate
It sounds really good.
Yeah I’m going to get the 20w one day
That has a nice snarl to it. For the $ that’s a win. Do it again through your Two Notes with a boost too and see if you can make it Deathcore worthy. \m/ from Texas.
Haha yeah I’m not sure I can it’s 16 ohm and captor is 8
Might try a man ir on it though just needs brightening up
Wow nice metal sound
Awesome riffing!
Thanks
Fuck yeah! Thats the tone!
You have awesome gear!
One day id like to jam with you with that nice gear!
Cheers from Portugal 🍺🤘🇵🇹
Glad you liked it could do with an ir adding or some eq ,these are raw tracks as usual 🍺🇬🇧
Sounds extremely muffled and thin. This does not sound usable or enjoyable to my ear. Very useful video though, thanks for posting!
Yeah it does it’s job but needs brightening somehow for it to work
I'm not impressed. Sounds boxey to me, or maybe the EQing was intentional(?). I use a Two Notes Torpedo with Wall of Sound and IRs when I record mine.
Great vid. Can you just plug headphones into the dsl20rh without using a speaker as it has the same emulated out but the manual says you need to have it plugged into a speaker as well if you want to use headphones and the amp has to be on standby at all times while your using the headphones
On this one you can yes not sure about the 20w but pretty sure it will be the same
Wow nice, DSL 1 is fabulous small Amp Head
Agreed 🤘🏼🔥
What if you use the fx loop on the head with a Mooer Radar Cab Sim and use the emulated out on the head, will that work?
Yeah I may do a demo using an or one day it’s on the list haha 😂
Not too bad! How did u get rid of the awful hiss??
I can’t remember chances are I used a gate although I can’t remember any hiss tbh or using a gate
This emulated output should allow you to connect straight to a mixer right?
Yes I’d use an ir though if I were you bud
2:21 and to fry the transformer? Is the emulated out taking care of the load that the head requires not to self itself on fire?
The emulated out doesn’t work with the speaker plugged in so I’m assuming the emulated out dis engages the power
@@NinecoreNeil Am I wrong in feeling like "emulated out" means it's just a profile of the amp and therefore barely requires any power? It doesn't sound that great to me so I'm inclined to believe this is the case.
@@LightCyrus it’s a pre amp out with the soft tube supposedly making it sound like a cab and mic
It still needs an ir on it
That sounds great for what it is.
Yeah I’ve not tweaked it in anyway so it can sound much better too
Nobody can give an opinion on what this sounds like because you stuck an overdrive pedal in the chain when the amp is already on the ultra gain channel.
Why?
We're hearing the pedal and not the amp.
That’s not true it’s a clean boost to tighten up the amp,that’s how people use these in this genre,also this is not the only demo of this amp I’ve done so…..the ultra gain has already been covered this demo is mainly about the Softube emulation 👍
Great job! Please, tell me the cable do we need to connect the emulated out to the audio interface?
I used a TRS cable
@@NinecoreNeil So just a normal instrument cable for guitar?It is just wierd because it looks more like the backside of the DSL1 has a minijack cable input in the emulated output. How were you able to conenct this to an interface?
@@nameless2340 yeah you just put an adapter on the end 👍
@@NinecoreNeil This is so wierd. Why would Marshall put a mini jack output of half of their amps and then a normal jack on the other half?
Thanks for the help anyways :)
@@nameless2340 I agree it’s a bit stupid,I’m wondering if it’s down to cost?
I’ve seen Aux outs regularly be a headphone style jack but seems odd on a head
How do you get rid of the amp hum and noise when using the emulated out?
Use a noise gate I didn’t have any tbh
Is it possible to use the DSL1 with no cabinet connected and connect from the effects loop into your interface directly? (Then use an IR)
I’m not sure but you can go from headphone jack with no cab
Running without speaker or load connected, u will damage the transformer. Because the amp does not come with built-in resistive load like in Laney ironheart or ENGL Ironball.
Thanks for the brilliant video, I only play at home with headphones and never used a tube amp before.
At present I have a Katana MK2 50 and I use headphones and record it with audacity through my laptop. Can you use headphones on the Marshall and record too. Many thanks
I’m not actually sure ,you can do both but I’m not sure if you can do them simultaneously but you wouldn’t need to if your into the interface
Wouldn't you just plug the amp into your interface and then plug your headphones into your interface? All the popular interfaces I've seen, such as the Scarlett 2i2, all have a headphone out to monitor what's coming through the interface.
Cheers
Never had interface before on the katana that is the interface and it plugs straight into your laptop and your headphones plug into the katana.
Never played a tube amp and it's about finding a nice sounding one which will work at home recording with headphones phones and play tones or Gary Moore and clean mark knopfler sounds with a Les Paul.
@@taylodl that’s what I was thinking you would need to hear the click or drums
It's OK. I used to own the dsl 20 and I thought the line out was meh
Yeh it’s a bit boxy
Sounds very compressed and nasally. Sounds like the mids aren't there or something idk.
Yeah it seems to have a boxy tone to it there’s no post eq so this might be able to be tweaked
Sounds a little stuffy...that's no reflection on you, though
Yeah could do with an ir or brightening up
2:50 and, no.
Man just fx send that thing into an ir or wos plugin
I’m just testing the emulated out in this one
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