Timidity of the possible is great for the 65+ demographic’s stock portfolios and home values. What we’re witnessing is when a generation that was so numerous that it could run the legislative agenda for 50 years becomes the less-dominant voice.
This is exactly why I was so disappointed with Obama's first term. He had all the cards, then surrendered them to the conservatives during his first two years. I really hope that John Stewart makes an 'Audacity of Cope' book that goes into the failures of the Democratic elite.
I feel like leaders with good intentions who pass difficult and complicated legislation that entirely intends to help people, need to pay mind to how these things actually get implemented and remove bureaucratic roadblocks. Republicans just swoop in and take advantage of this difficult work getting held up. They do nothing productive except for rich people, they just manipulate and take advantage of that complexity. The electorate needs to have a leader who can both implement and constantly INSPIRE the good work needed.
@@kellybixby906 I thought that’s what Kamala was? Shattering barriers, etc. I’d argue the last election demonstrates that more people are simply interested in having a decent job and an affordable mortgage.
@@kellybixby906 Honestly, I have the impression that people of mediocre action tend to be far more successful than those who work in competent silence. By not crowing to the heavens about intentions and successes, the Democrats have allowed the Republicans to set the tone for...everything, really. Teddy Roosevelt, Franklin, and Lincoln may have been smart, but more importantly, they were assertive.
It would be a valid exercise but it's futile. I have a couple of nephews who represent the kind of people talked about but when I asked them why they thought the way they thought or would vote (cuz they didn't vote), they didn't know. They were just spewing shit they heard on CoD or tik tok, reels. I have a feeling the vast majority of these young men are the same. There's no moral, thoughtful or any sort of fabric for which they make a decision. They heard something and that's what they focus on. Soooo, wtf so you do with that? They're completely disengaged and seem to act out of reflex. Completely baseless values. I also think it's a small window of a bigger issue with Gen Zs.
I often find that people who are involved in politics often underestimate how little some people engage with or care about policys unless it directly impacts them. A lot of people are only hearing a few messages or something on their social feed.
You're very right. I was like that until 9/11 happened and I realized I needed to pay more attention. Fast forward to a few years ago, I found out my coworker was completely oblivious to the fact that Trump helmed the longest government shutdown a couole of months prior. Most people are like that, they pay little to no attention.
@@RochelleBayne for me it was Obamacare. I had insurance through work with reasonable co-pays and yearly out of pocket then boss stopped healthcare and gave us a monthly check and told us to go get our own insurance. The whole reason I went to work is so I could go to the doctor. 😔
@@sonotdown998but even that, you gotta imagine it's mostly a reflection of people feeling like their needs aren't being addressed. Like, if everyone's lives were totally secure financially, you'd maybe get like, 10 percent to be upset about that, just because 10 percent of people can agree on anything. So if you wash out the noise with policies that help everyone, no niches, no means testing, no obvious focus groups other than "the American people", I think that sort of thing wouldn't be nearly as effective
He legit could have a shot. He would be able to go to the places the right have control over and completely own them (Rogan podcast, Fox heck even the extreme right wing nut jobs like Tucker) Also not ancient which is a massive positive. The only way to undo Trump is to push the one trustable Anti-Trump media star of your own
@@threeofeight197nooooo ! No more white men for president. He doesn’t even want that are you even listening to the white man? He’s literally yelling that we don’t need more of them running shit 💩 how are you just ignoring the parts that you don’t like even when a white guy says them????
@B1u3Lightsaber The country has him, and I'm grateful. Voices of sanity are few and far between. Maybe he could have beaten Trump, and I would have definitely backed him in a primary. But those who can be trusted with power usually don't want it, and I respect his choice. We need to look elsewhere, as he has said himself.
YUP. There is a left-wing answer to all these idiot podcasters on the right/"libertarian" power sycophants: JON STEWART. Far and away. I get why he doesn't go for it though. Might literally be suicide. But, there are few people on this side of the aisle who could kick ass on a national ticket and he's one of them.
Trump is a self-promotion savant. The working class feels really unheard. He pretended to care. Democrats suck at messaging. I don't think a lot of the country heard Kamala's plans etc. We must find a way to break through the silos we live in. Working class people have been snowed into voting against their own interests as long as I can remember. Fear and hate work.
So, who would be able to do that? Probably not too many Trump voters watching this podcast, or any of the late night comedy hosts, who really are the best pro-democracy messengers we've got. How can you be a demagogue without othering someone? The closest I've seen is Bernie, who does a pretty good job of laying the blame on the 1% while standing up for everyone else. But that's exactly why he got shafted in '16 and wasn't seen as able to beat Trump by the mainstream in '20. Meanwhile, the big issue in Congress this week (other than the cabinet of horrors), is whether the one trans rep is allowed to use the bathroom. Although I do like the idea of Speaker Mike realizing he's putting her in a position to comment on the size of his Johnson.
You think the Democrats care about the working class? 😂😂😂 Even Bernie Sanders called them out. Democrats represent the overeducated resentful academics. Lots of arrogant intelligent people who want to tell other people how to live their lives. All theory and no experience, stay in your books and out of other people's lives.
Kamala campaigned with a Cheney and moved right on immigration. Why are people still saying the dems moved too far left? Bernie has been screaming from the rooftops at what is wrong with this country and what is hurting the working class. The dems need to take notes but its uncomfortable because of how much corporate money they get.
Dems only moved right after they realized how badly they had screwed themselves. People remember what they have been doing and saying since 2020, not just the last 6 months when they suddenly seemed to remember people care about bread-and-butter and law-and-order issues.
The problem is Kamala’s pivot to the center was FAKE. They didnt need KAMALA to pivot to the center; the democrats needed a candidate with integrity who actually IS in the center. Don’t you get it? Jeez. It’s like you WANT to lose AGAIN in 2028.
Bernie hasn't said anything about the open borders in years. He's there to stop people from leaving the party, nothing more. People look at you being too far left with the woke stuff more than anything else. Plus they see crime happening where they won't convict anyone for stealing less than $1K. It's a combination.
Jon is the reason i have real medical care for my terminal cancer. I see a lot of people say he should run for president here. The way he stood up to Republicans for veterans to get the pact act passed is why he would be so effective. The ability to communicate to the public and put the fear of God in politicians to pass legislation that matters is what we need.
Why the Democrats didn't focus on the success of their programs like Build Back Better amazed me. My state alone hired several thousand workers for bridge and road repair with its alloted funds. Why didn't they stress this in every state?
@@jool4867No, because the Right wanted to “talk about” “trans.” So much so that they dumped millions of dollars into placing one ad everywhere the largest number of “conservatives” were guaranteed to see it.
@@jool4867 I have only ever heard about conservatives talk about trans. When did Kamala talk about trans beside that one interview in 2019 when she was pressed on it? Or any Dem politician?
They know how divided this country is on gender and where afraid to admit they actually did something that benefitted men out of fear of losing the votes of the more extreme feminists. It's a sad sentiment.
Respectfully Jon, if you really do not intend to run: _please_ find someone who can. The Democratic Party _needs_ a new captain to put this ship back on course.
Now, that last part, I'll agree with. So would Jon, Bernie, and any other non-fascist with sense and integrity. A real, competitive primary would have helped this year, even if Harris had still become the likely nominee. The process would have helped her distinguish herself from Biden, given her more opportunities to refine her message, and a greater sense of legitimacy. She would have more practice defending Biden's accomplishments, more time, and a chance to see where her weaknesses were (mostly her 2019 positions that got used so effectively against her, and having to defend ALL of Biden's positions, not just the ones that worked). Also, it would have been apparent earlier that a traditional campaign strategy was less effective in the new media ecosystem we live in.
The Democrats were winning because they were on the wrong side of nearly every current major issue going today. They are for endless wars, stopping crypto growth, open borders, men in women sports, Big pharma profits over Americans health, the Democrat party is despised nowadays because it's no longer for the working class or for young men . Good luck winning without that group
@@AntiNicolefanClub I agree, but for that to succeed in the current climate, you're gonna need a _masterful_ mythmaker who can offer America an alternative vision of what it means to have a family. We'll need a politician who can do for all queer folk what Malcom and Martin did for all Black Americans in the 60s. Not in any way implying it can't be done, but they need to be _very_ good at taking the narrative back from religious bigots. That will take a level of charisma I honestly haven't seen on the political stage yet.
@bubblezlife4 Overqualified. Which is why he will never do it. He has integrity, honesty, intelligence, self respect, and humility.. How many Presidents have all those? Obama is the only one I can think of who even came close.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. He has too much honesty and humility to want, or to do, the job of President. Chief advisor, on the other hand . . .
@natepinson I don’t think Jon wants the responsibility of having to order something that results in the death of people and sometimes Presidents have to do that. I can respect him for that.
Declared topic of the conversation: "Why Men Are Leaving the Left". Invite the guy to make a case for guys. Instead use the time to have the girl make the case for girls. Conclude that America is just irredeemably sexist after all. I don't think grievance olympics is constructive, but at least acknowledging men have their share of gender-specific hardships that must be addressed is an obvious takeaway from this election. Why is it so hard to talk about it even when this is explicitly the topic?
After the guest section, Jon gets on call with his producers.. three women the first of whom immediately says 'yeah maybe men haven't been heard but women havent' been heard in a long time'. Maybe he's just wanting to keep doing the podcast.
@@TimoRutanen I think Jon could start a new podcast tomorrow out of his basement using airpods from his first ipod and would easily get to a million subscribers. I don't think there is malice or self-interest here. My take: it's just a model for describing reality that Jon has developed over decades of partisan warfare that simply doesn't leave any space for inconvenient truths. Kind of like existence of biblical god is self-evident to many people with religious upbringing. A political theology of sorts.
@@YevgeniyYaroslavskiy I believe that with his chops, he totally could. I didn't really get any revelations out of this video either. And sadly hardly any sharp jokes either!
You all must be watching a different version of Trump than me. There is nothing funny, likable , or relatable about him. He played on people’s fears and prejudices and won.
I find him repugnant, too, but I think the left outrage over some comments was stupid. The shark thing, for example, was clearly intended to be a joke mocking the dangers of electric vehicles. I wanted someone to point out that if he wanted to choose electrocution he should be glad that boat was electric. What I really find absurd is that people are choosing a president based on sense of humor.
30:40 A couple of months ago you had women all over social media saying that all men are more dangerous than a bear and if you say anything that isn't agreeing with that then you're a misogynist. Then you have Michelle's "very powerful speech" which basically sounded like a stern lecture to a teenage son explaining that it's all their fault that Roe got overturned. On the other side you have the manosphere telling men that life is hard and women will never truly care about your struggles so the only thing to do is become cruel. I'm a die hard lefty and even I have been put off by the current discourse so Is it really surprising that Democrats lost ground with men?
It's demoralizing that it takes electing Donald Trump to a second term in order to get anyone to even consider that the misandry might have gone too far. I'm not optimistic it will last.
Really wish Jon asked Richard about the issues of Boys and Men rather than kinda just ignoring it and actually just refuting it. Edit actually I'm appalled that Jon never even asked Richard what are the issues with men and boys, especially with the refuting/downplaying of it he did
Exactly. Richard IS the expert to talk about that and that topic was barely discussed. Republicans didn’t win the male vote; Dems lost it. Republicans have been radicalizing men and boys for several years now. This is not a recent phenomenon.
I know... I was sort of counting on Jon, of all people, to be the voice of reason and reconciliation, to provide the nuanced takes. Instead it feels like he gets really close, but something constantly pulls him back into the echo-chamber. This was the excellent opportunity to acknowledge basic reality: men struggle in their own way, we should be thinking how to address this. Instead the key takeaways for them seems to be "men care more about being entertained than addressing existential risks for women". How the hell do you even get there?... I had to listen to this twice because I couldn't believe myself thew first time around.
@@YevgeniyYaroslavskiy What nuanced take could possibly justify a vote for trump? Genuinely curious. Because mens issues are very real, but if you think trump cares then you're either an idiot or unbelievably misinformed. I'm tired of being gaslit that it's somehow our fault that people looked at the convicted sex pest, objective racist, horrible fraudster who cheated people out of their money, and went "You know? I think I'll vote for him". And voting for someone who helped ban abortion does in fact signify that you don't really care about women's lives, it's not rocket science. Women are literally dying because of abortion bans, last time I checked the left isn't openly advocating for policies that would directly kill men. Again, I do think that the left has isolated men and not been great about cultural issues. But their answer is to turn to fascism? Like seriously? There's no universe where that's a proportional response. You can't drag the left for being to gung-ho about women's issues and thereby isolating men, but then defend people who literally do the same thing in reaction. You know if you weren't in an echo chamber and cared to listen to women's experiences you'd know that a good portion of the trump voting male genuinely doesn't want women to have the same rights as them. How exactly should we address people who don't want to be addressed... take some accountability you know. It's not all the 'woke' lefts fault. You always have control as to how you react to a bad situation. And a lot of men have chosen to react by listening to far right extremists, that's just a fact.
I really wish that decades ago men (at large) advocated for women's rights, because if they had we wouldn't have this division in the modern era. But they didn't, and women had to fight for all their rights. Women didn't turn to fascism, they lobbied and studied and got in to positions of power fair and square. But just because a small subsect of the movement went slightly too far you think men are justified to go all the way to the other extreme? It's hypocrisy at it's finest. The very thing you're criticising the left of is the EXACT thing men on the right are doing. I'm sorry that men have been isolated and their issues underdiscussed, but let's not pretend like they have no self agency. Adult men have chosen to listen to figures like andrew tate, a literal abuser and trafficker. I do want to have an open discussion where we all acknowledge how we've wronged each other, but we can't really do that when one side simply hates the other. Y'all accuse us of an echo chamber yet you apparently can't see just how many men on the right literally hate women and want them to be subservient. I don't know how we de-radicalise these people but pinning the blame solely on the left isn't fair not productive, it just emboldens their aggrieved entitlement.
Idk if it’s time to call gen Z “right wing” yet. The elections they’ve been involved in have been unique and I think there are left candidates that they would LOVE to vote for. It’s just that a Milquetoast centrist isn’t it.
I think just like every previous generation, they're split. And they've got the additional burden of man-o-sphere podcast influencers indoctrinating them with really insane views. So they may have the biggest challenge to overcome in decades to try and swing them to a progressive stance.
Thats the thing elections will always be unique, but Gen Z definitely is more to the right than millennials, and I think thats because they are the children of Gen X.
Kamala was a milquetoast centrist. She was a phony and everybody saw through it. She f-ed her way to the top through WIllie Brown. She was a tough-on-petty-crime like marijuana, while smoking it herself. She’s trying to about black pride and all that, but marries a white guy (who is total slime and f-ed his nanny). The problem with Kamala is Kamala. The problem with the Dems is that they went full-woke and thought a DEI black woman ‘veep’ would be enough to beat the crazy orange conman. Nope. We’d rather have the conman. You guys blew it. Kamala was a horrible candidate, sh’es not a ‘centrist’ and her pivot was fake. Bernie would’ve been better, even though he’s more left wing on economic issues, b/c he’s authentic and appeals to working class, which cuts across race and, so, ironically, is more authentically ‘diverse’ than the fake DEI SJW bs.
@@hughdidit its funny because I find myself very much so having more democrat positions than republican, but when I read how democrats think about us young males I want to vote against them out of spite, which is exactly what I did, I voted for Trump. Thank you for reaffirming my spite.
@ 13:30 I couldn’t disagree more. I think Kamala was incredibly transparent about her far more forward-thinking policies than by hinting at 'a concept of a plan'. She was about further economic recovery through fair taxation of the obscenely wealthy, protecting reproductive health & supporting the middle class's ability to become first time homeowners. Likewise, Biden was responsible for the most impressive economic restoration in American history, after the pandemic, dropping the unemployment rate lower than it's ever been & pushing forward with the CHIPS Act, as well as empowering/improving infrastructure and manufacturing in a country that had been letdown in these specific areas after the previous president promised and lied about doing both. Biden's accomplishments aren’t well-known because he's been too busy working these past 4 years. He was about action, not about false bragging. MEANWHILE, Trump was repeatedly voted the worst president in history by legitimate historians, accomplished nothing but failures & a big hike in his own income, as well as the income of his family, all while claiming accomplishments that were never his to begin with. The real true issue is something Jon touched on in his most recent episode hosting The Daily Show, the Conservative right-wingers do NOT play by the rules, they focus on fallacies & claim that your freedoms and rights are at stake, while further restricting your personal freedoms. I think Jon nailed it earlier in the podcast, the younger generation (specifically men) voted for the more entertaining candidate. Republicans are the Clickbait Political Party, that is it! It is not our best interest they have at heart, it is their own bottom line, vis-a-vis, filling their own pocketbooks. Trump is a cult leader and his followers ate eagerly overfilling their cups of Kool-Aid.
I agree, generally, but I do think the current administration didn't do enough to make sure people were aware of what they were doing. I believe part of why people thought Trump was so great was that he constantly told them he was great. He took credit (loudly) for anything that went well. Biden had tons he could have bragged about, but (imo because he had been burnt by the media long before) didn't make much noise about it. I do think the point about Walz going on podcasts to shoot the shit and bring up what the administration had done for their area(s) was a good one. Also, sometimes the perspective of people is mind boggling. I saw, I believe on the Bulwark, a woman saying the economy sucks because everyone's hiring. If nobody can find workers the economy must be horrible. Really???? *facepalm*
Trump also had the lowest unemployment rate so that's a wash. The chips act excited me at the time, and then there was massive layoffs in that industry. I had to move states to get another job. Kamala needed to tell us what we could clearly see - BIDEN SUCKS! More of the same is the LAST thing this country needs. Time for CHANGE.
Yep. And Tim Walz spent the 100 days talking everywhere - often to relatively bi-partisan audiences - in his usual free-wheeling style. Even without looking specifically for Walz, videos & live-streams of his appearances popped up every time I logged onto UA-cam during the campaign. Where Richard Reeves got the notion that Walz "stood still" and said nothing is unfathomable.
@@bethh5464no. he's right in a sense. Waltz as a former coach would have been the perfect to guy to try and get the male vote but they were so afraid of losing female votes by doing that that they decided never to address men exclusively. They had an ace and decided not to play it. A sad sentiment to the gender division.
Stop the presses, tell MAGA that *legitimate* historians voted Trump the worst president in history. That will surely change their minds about him. (and people wonder why dems lost lol)
Thank you Jon. You help me make it through. You're far from an unheard voice. I agree with you on everything I've heard you say. Loved it when you suggested Kurt Vonnegut for people to read. You just rock.
I voted for Harris to make the women in my life happy, I’m a life-long democrat, and I’m concerned about Trump’s dictatorial tendencies, not because I thought she would work towards my interests.
@@theorpheumcircuit The kind where the lion eats the tamer, the trapeze artist uses the crowd as a net, and the fire eater burns down the tent while the elephants just stand there looking stupid.
Jon's juicing up his podcast for the next election. Appreciate it brother, I'm somewhat apart of the brosphere (All-IN, Lex listener). It's been nice to have a new podcast that's a bit more left leaning but still really honest and considered to balance things out.
If you only go to right-wing sites - you would get the impression that Donald was a Super-Cowboy President - they play clips from 2016 rallies - they selectively edit his comments - they never hear democratic talking points (except Pete Buttigieg on Fox) - they never see Donald losing his train of thought -
@Gabriel_H77 While I’m in agreement with you Jon has been in roles of power (at least on TV) for over 30 years and he’s still one of the good ones. Point being, I don’t think he would become corrupted but rather do what’s right
@Yourmission9 A TV star actually has zero power, but they may have some limited influence, and that does not make a basis for leadership - Have y'all really not learned that lesson over the last 8 years?
I find that as hideous as you clearly do, but tbh, I can see some young guys thinking that was funny. Instead of judging them, which I want to do, I'd suggest asking is that what we want to send to negotiate with other world leaders?
I haven't a clue. The guy is a humorless prick. You barely can find video of him genuinely laughing or smiling.... Although he did have a big grin on his face the other day when they made RFK Jr eat McDonalds....
100 percent agree on the muzzling of Tim Walz. SNL even did a bit about it. If he had been given free reign, even if he made mistakes along the way, we might have had a better result.
I absolutely agree! He comes across as a real man in a non-toxic way and he's funny. He would have had to address the tampon thing, but that's really straightforward if it's directly addressed. That shit's expensive and he wanted to help just like he wanted to help by feeding schoolkids.
"Women have not been addressed for a very long time" ... was she in a coma during the Me Too movement? I get that we're not in a perfect society after it, but come on.
The entire Media let him get away with a lack of specificity. Nobody pressed him for details. Welcome to Richard Reeves. I'm a long time fan and met him at a library talk. I think the man is correct and always has been.
This lady is wrong. The democrats did not move too far to the left or cater to the left too much in the election. They had issues with messaging, charisma and they catered too much to the right (cozying up with the Cheneys and big business). Also, Jon Stewart 2028. We need you, buddy. Jon your knowledge and understanding of the Democrat’s missteps more than prove how great a president you would be.
I think to make sense of it you have to move beyond a simplistic "left vs right" model. They abandoned broadly popular, universalist economically left-wing policies. They instead focussed on divisive radical identity politics, and neoliberalism. Then brought in a couple of war-hawk neocons, just to ensure they alienated even more voters.
If anything from what I've seen in certain spaces, democrats moved far too much to the right. Bernie and his positions were incredibly popular until the DNC killed his candidacy.
Lower income shifting to trump NOT ex of less income polarization. Lower income people felt left behind by BOTH. Who uses "working class" as a term. The "middle class is our backbone" said during pandemic. Who was working at home? How did toiling workers at Tyson feel about that!
Jon Stewart: Hey Democrats, do you have any of those new generations of leadership yet? Dems: Hey Jon, are you maybe able to work more than just Mondays, and could you run for president?
Women became complete citizens in 1974 when we gained the right to develop credit, own property and have physical autonomy. By 1979 we had to have a new men's movement because woman had gotten attention for a whole 5 years as we built lives for ourselves. I don't understand what they are so afraid of, from here it looks like they are afraid of not being the center of attention.
Something needs to be said about the moral absolutism that exists on the left which has resulted in people moving right. If there is someone the left agrees with 99% but disagree on 1%, they will disavow them. If there is someone the right disagrees with 99% but agrees on 1%, they will celebrate that similarity. Moral absolutists cost Kamala the election (those that didn't vote for issues like Gaza and whatnot are what made the difference versus the record 2020 turnout).
You’re completely right, but good luck getting it through most on the left’s heads. I’ve been trying to for decades now, all while voting for (and marching for) liberal and leftist causes. The amount of times I’ve been called out or given an earful because I strayed half an inch from the party line…
@@SalmonLord14 Me too. I'm fairly liberal but have been literally yelled at by my own daughter because I didn't think leaving anyone, even murderers and child molesters, in prison was a good idea. Really?
I'm in my 60's and being a young male has always had its frustrations and irritations, this is called life. I find it ironic that these same guys who are so obsessed with everyone else being weak, or whiny, or woke, or 'feminized', etc. are...weak and whiny, everything is someone else's fault. Combine that with the age of the internet and they get caught in a vicious unending loop of egging each other on, confusing their in-group with the wider world. We had guys like this back in the day but they were scattered about, the exception, and eventually when left to the progression of getting older in the real world they grew out of the angst, or most did, the rest ended up in prison or dead. The odd thing is they don't seem to understand they are (in the arc of history) only VERY RECENTLY feeling what they think is some type of discrimination when their gender and race has had baked-in privilege, but somehow take issue with groups that had generation after generation of discrimination and a hard fight to get basic rights, but yet they disparage those same groups. Kinda weird, a bit embarrassing, and a double standard honestly.
In reply to the man in his 60s. I am a woman in my 60s and I so agree with what you said! I find what is going on with this transition so harmful and hurtful to women. The Gaetz pick and his pick for the Department of Defense. I understand young men being frustrated, but to follow sexually abusive immature men and to look to them as leaders of our country? I don’t have the words right now except to say that women are dying in states where some men think women should be sacrificed on the altar of motherhood.
the “scattered about” was such an important guardrail for maintaining societal stability that the internet broke. they couldn’t do much damage before in ones and twos. now they can congregate in one virtual space, and that makes them a dangerous force. there are so many affinity groups that are only possible because of the internet. conspiracies theories spread that never could have before. most are harmless, like the flat-earthers. but others turn into violence in the real world, like the Unite the Right hate rally in Charlottesville. like the the printing press, and the upheaval that follow, we final created rule. i hope we get there with the internet before it destroys every liberal democracy in the world.
Yeah. But that's what's happening to extreme leftists aswell. Everyones in their echo chambers getting more extreme and spiteful against the other side. Also since you're a boomer you in no way had to deal with as shitty as an economy young people today have to deal with.
I am fed up with people saying "The Democrats ran too far to the left." I'm on the left, and I never heard a Democratic message that made me think they were going left.
It’s really just social issues that crowd gets inflamed by. I believe even Obama flipped his views on gay marriage from 2008 to 2012. I don’t know how you can reconcile with that crowd.
What are you talking about they're far left on every issue. In fact they've taken over the entire party and sadly the center can't defend this nonsense that's why they've lost people like RFK and Tulsi and Elon because the far left no controls everything about the Democrat party
They were very unabashedly courting moderate republicans. Also, let's not pretend like there is any leftist representation in the US....Conservatives have shifted the overton window so far to the right that republicans are far right and democrats are center right....
I love Annie Lowreys insights and the comments here are the very reason we lost to a dismal candidate who burned down the country on Jan 6th. You learn from your failures and come back stronger or just perish- Id rather the center left learn and survive
I don't know why people keep harping on that. Look at what that office does to a man, it's a hellscape of stress and BS, I would not wish that on anyone decent, or on their family. It's a nice thought but not very feasible from a mental health standpoint.
I think it was Jon that said that the best president do not wanna be president.... So let's just do it against his will. Honestly would be the funniest shit ever
@@d4mdcykey agree, however, we haven't at least in the recent monory seen someone in that role who is not shackled by the party apparatus. Trump came closest in the worst way, but not someone not narcissistic and with actual empathy!
@@jvick87 exactly, as a man born in 94 I used to love Jon. He hit the nail on the head everytime. But now Jon is so out of touch. When is the last time he spent time with a regular young guy? Seems like he only has elite rich people or activist PoC on the podcast.
I am an immigrant, a naturalized US citizen from Eastern Europe. White, late 30s, upper middle class who recently started a family. I've historically voted democrat but I sat this election out. And my reason is quite simple, I've seen a terrifying trend in American Politics, where the parties no longer reflect the will and interest of the people. Modern political parties assume a position and dictate it to the electorate. The system is inherently broken, there is too much money in politics, too many corporate interests, and both parties are equally guilty of it. Reagan has turned all of America incredibly right, and with economic conservativism being so deeply ingrained in the system the left goes "left" on the most absurd issues... Things like healthcare, an end to foreign wars, an end to foreign entanglements... these are radical ideas in the US, and US Alone... for crying out loud ppl in this country call Bernie Sanders a communist....
@@kathleengreer4639 Except the question of abortion has never been about the woman's mindset at all. It's about the life of the unborn child. If you believe a fetus to be a person from the moment of conception, endowed with all the rights bound in personhood, the chief among them is the right to life, then to you abortion is murder. And we generally don't ask, in society, what a murderer thinks about their right to murder, we plainly tell them, "you can't, and if you do it, you'll face legal consequences." That's the entire argument. "Is an unborn child a person." Pro-life people say unequivocally "yes," pro-choice people are somewhere on the spectrum between "no," and "yes, but..."
@@Borissh89yep it will always be tricky because when something is “alive” is up philosophical and scientific debate. Which kicks sticky. It’s simplistically looked at as sexist power dynamics but it’s philosophically difficult
Love how everyone is an expert on tariffs these days. Here in Australia, we've been impacted enormously by China's tariffs and you sense relief in the media whenever our Chinese overlords lift a tariff or two. I never realized this whole time China were destroying their own economy with tariffs. Thank you American economic experts.
Yeah but that is not how this works. It would be great if everyone followed road rules but we still wear our seat belt in case of an accident don't we?
Democracy needs a few things to function correctly: 1) A free press - not a sensationalist one 2) An informed electorate 3) Bipartisanship What it doesn't actually need? Elections. Democratic governance can exist without elections, but rather than focus on the three things that are needed, everyone focuses on the one thing that isn't.
My take is it was a victory for the ruling class. "Divide and rule." There are many moving parts and no simple solution. It's amazing how easily the human mind can be manipulated. Was Aristotle right?
I once heard Fareed Zakaria say that people can only handle change at a certain pace. I suspect that white male fragility has been triggered, in part, by how quickly some in the country want to move away from existing inequalities (and rightly so, having seen the issue clearly). Sadly, I worry the Trump cabinet nominees seem to embody that backlash.
Someone replied to my comment on a different YT video saying the trans thing is too soon after the gay rights thing. Not saying they don't have rights that deserve to be respected but that the pace of change is too fast and created backlash. It sucks, but it made me think. Then I saw someone else screaming about how they weren't going to vote for another Democrat who ignored trans rights. I feel a bit like the left is trapped.
Bad take. People want faster change, not slower. The only thing that has been triggered is the systemic sidelining of the middle and working classes, and the failure of either party to pursue or enact meaningful change to that system. White males are quite generous and chill when they have jobs and income. You just can't prioritize the self-actualization of fringe identities over the base needs of the majority. Who'da thunk?
I loved-LOVED-Kamala Harris. Still do. And I loved her in the 2020 election and was bummed when she dropped out. What all the pundits don’t seem to address is the elephant of racism in the room. Not only is Harris a woman, but she’s a black woman. It was sexism, too. I’m 60 years old. We’ve had more than two women run for president by the way. Our country is just rife with bone deep sexism and racism.
Love you Jon. I am trying to keep somewhat open minded to see if any of Trump's ideas work. It's just so hard to like this ignorant, low class human, and MTG? Now Dr Oz. I hope the universe has a surprise for us and we have to see what that is.
I voted for Trump/Vance /Rfkjr/Tulsi & i actually found this podcast interesting & reasonable.. one of the more honest takes from the left i have heard about the election. & atleast some ppl on the left are realizing they need to reform the democrat party ect..
And then last panel just ruined it with blaming sexism & racism lol if they had stronger better woman canidates it would have been a different story. And actually had fair primarys.Or a primary at all.
Yeah, I'm very tired of people using Hillary's loss as proof of sexism. I'm definitely not sexist and I voted 3rd party in '16 (in a safely blue state because I'm not a moron) because I hated her. I'm sure I'm not the only one.
I absolutely did not see the appeal of the GOP candidate nor of the platform. No offense, but we do not need Jon Stewart as a future president. Keep him questioning the issues and approaches or lack of approaches to issues. I agree on messaging about all the accomplishments in the Biden administration. Tell the people what you will do, tell them what you have done, and show specific examples of what you have done over and over again and we are pleased to serve the people. Re The View: I can't think of anything right now, but I can tell you about the many, many things our Administration did. How much time do you have?
"this is the time to create anew" yes if the spoiler candidates want to pretend they're not spoilers, now is the time for them to show up for the people
Men got kicked out of the party in 2016. Anyone remember "Bernie Bros?" it was around this time that "toxic masculinity" invented to used against them.
I get that, and I'm a woman (and a Bernie Bro? lol). I think sometimes liberal women get so wrapped up in defending women's rights that they forget men aren't the enemy. I'm curious, though. Did you vote for Harris? Would you vote for Gretchen Witmer? (I'm absolutely not calling you sexist, btw, just wondering as you feel kicked out of the Democratic party. I tried but failed to think of a younger, male version of Bernie to add to the list.)
Oh please. The idea of toxic masculinity goes way back. And if you think that alienated men generally then it says more about you than it does the Dems
The term toxic masculinity was most certainly NOT "basically born in 2016." It is from the 1980s. But the concept WAS used by some MSNBC hosts & guests to describe "Bernie BROS" in 2016.
The "Bernie Bros" pejorative was the begining of the end. No way Trump would have been elected, once let alone twice, if dems didn't denigrate the largest intersectional identity of voters in America. Just dumb politics to do that, but when you gotta protect the donor class, you gotta do what you gotta do.
The term was actually started by men's groups to describe how certain toxic masculine beliefs and behaviors hurt men. The media and feminists co-opted the term and redefined it to mean masculinity was toxic.
my guess is the Dems didn't want the man to upstage the woman 'cause FEMINISM and DEI. DEI means white men have had it too good for too long, so now it's Tim Walz's time to sit at the back of the bus and be silent. This left-wing attack on men's been going on for a decade. People are calling it "the lost decade of entertainment" because every tv show and movie is woke trash. It's gotten so bad that multi-billion dollar franchises like Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, and Marvel are all failing and the audience is pissed off. And all those pissed off people voted Red.
"You can not run on the audacity of hope and govern with the timidity of the possible." That's something.
Timidity of the possible is great for the 65+ demographic’s stock portfolios and home values. What we’re witnessing is when a generation that was so numerous that it could run the legislative agenda for 50 years becomes the less-dominant voice.
This is exactly why I was so disappointed with Obama's first term. He had all the cards, then surrendered them to the conservatives during his first two years.
I really hope that John Stewart makes an 'Audacity of Cope' book that goes into the failures of the Democratic elite.
I feel like leaders with good intentions who pass difficult and complicated legislation that entirely intends to help people, need to pay mind to how these things actually get implemented and remove bureaucratic roadblocks. Republicans just swoop in and take advantage of this difficult work getting held up. They do nothing productive except for rich people, they just manipulate and take advantage of that complexity. The electorate needs to have a leader who can both implement and constantly INSPIRE the good work needed.
@@kellybixby906 I thought that’s what Kamala was? Shattering barriers, etc. I’d argue the last election demonstrates that more people are simply interested in having a decent job and an affordable mortgage.
@@kellybixby906 Honestly, I have the impression that people of mediocre action tend to be far more successful than those who work in competent silence. By not crowing to the heavens about intentions and successes, the Democrats have allowed the Republicans to set the tone for...everything, really.
Teddy Roosevelt, Franklin, and Lincoln may have been smart, but more importantly, they were assertive.
Why are young men moving right? Lets ask everyone - except young men.
Maybe stop being so sexist against men? No. It's too late. They should have stopped 10 years ago. Men will not forget.
And then wokescold them for being wrong when they tell us.
It would be a valid exercise but it's futile. I have a couple of nephews who represent the kind of people talked about but when I asked them why they thought the way they thought or would vote (cuz they didn't vote), they didn't know. They were just spewing shit they heard on CoD or tik tok, reels. I have a feeling the vast majority of these young men are the same. There's no moral, thoughtful or any sort of fabric for which they make a decision. They heard something and that's what they focus on. Soooo, wtf so you do with that? They're completely disengaged and seem to act out of reflex. Completely baseless values. I also think it's a small window of a bigger issue with Gen Zs.
@@wobblemind That is highly anecdotal and straight up stereotypical.
They don't know any men. Look at their commercials. They tried to make commercials with regular men and they couldn't find any.
I often find that people who are involved in politics often underestimate how little some people engage with or care about policys unless it directly impacts them. A lot of people are only hearing a few messages or something on their social feed.
Or, they only engage when policies won’t ever negatively impact them in any direct or real way. See: Healthcare for incarcerated trans women.
You're very right. I was like that until 9/11 happened and I realized I needed to pay more attention. Fast forward to a few years ago, I found out my coworker was completely oblivious to the fact that Trump helmed the longest government shutdown a couole of months prior. Most people are like that, they pay little to no attention.
@@RochelleBayne for me it was Obamacare. I had insurance through work with reasonable co-pays and yearly out of pocket then boss stopped healthcare and gave us a monthly check and told us to go get our own insurance. The whole reason I went to work is so I could go to the doctor. 😔
Not to mention, Trump is a master at marketing. Most of his campaign promises are easy to remember because they're so simplistic.
@@sonotdown998but even that, you gotta imagine it's mostly a reflection of people feeling like their needs aren't being addressed. Like, if everyone's lives were totally secure financially, you'd maybe get like, 10 percent to be upset about that, just because 10 percent of people can agree on anything. So if you wash out the noise with policies that help everyone, no niches, no means testing, no obvious focus groups other than "the American people", I think that sort of thing wouldn't be nearly as effective
Jon..you need to run for president
I don’t think Jon wants to be responsible for the death of people.
@jool4867 why would he be responsible? I don't follow please explain.
@@jool4867then he shall run!
Why would he want to ruin his life.
It would require sacrifice and bravery for sure.
STEWART FOR PRESIDENT 2028
He legit could have a shot. He would be able to go to the places the right have control over and completely own them (Rogan podcast, Fox heck even the extreme right wing nut jobs like Tucker)
Also not ancient which is a massive positive.
The only way to undo Trump is to push the one trustable Anti-Trump media star of your own
Is this Kyle Kulinskis account? 😂. Or is it a scruffy looking nerfherder? Either way I second this!!!
No more white men for president if you think that’s the move you don’t get any of what he’s been saying for years now…
@@threeofeight197nooooo ! No more white men for president. He doesn’t even want that are you even listening to the white man? He’s literally yelling that we don’t need more of them running shit 💩 how are you just ignoring the parts that you don’t like even when a white guy says them????
I still have my “Stewart/Colbert ‘08” tshirt
Jon Stewart, the country needs you!
He could have beaten Trump.
@B1u3Lightsaber The country has him, and I'm grateful. Voices of sanity are few and far between. Maybe he could have beaten Trump, and I would have definitely backed him in a primary. But those who can be trusted with power usually don't want it, and I respect his choice. We need to look elsewhere, as he has said himself.
YUP. There is a left-wing answer to all these idiot podcasters on the right/"libertarian" power sycophants: JON STEWART. Far and away. I get why he doesn't go for it though. Might literally be suicide. But, there are few people on this side of the aisle who could kick ass on a national ticket and he's one of them.
As an exemplar of modern manhood? I'm not buying it.
Trump is a self-promotion savant. The working class feels really unheard. He pretended to care. Democrats suck at messaging. I don't think a lot of the country heard Kamala's plans etc. We must find a way to break through the silos we live in. Working class people have been snowed into voting against their own interests as long as I can remember. Fear and hate work.
He throws so much shit at the wall some of it eventually sticks, and keeps him constantly in the spotlight. That's not savant, it is a toddler.
So, who would be able to do that? Probably not too many Trump voters watching this podcast, or any of the late night comedy hosts, who really are the best pro-democracy messengers we've got. How can you be a demagogue without othering someone? The closest I've seen is Bernie, who does a pretty good job of laying the blame on the 1% while standing up for everyone else. But that's exactly why he got shafted in '16 and wasn't seen as able to beat Trump by the mainstream in '20. Meanwhile, the big issue in Congress this week (other than the cabinet of horrors), is whether the one trans rep is allowed to use the bathroom. Although I do like the idea of Speaker Mike realizing he's putting her in a position to comment on the size of his Johnson.
You think the Democrats care about the working class? 😂😂😂 Even Bernie Sanders called them out. Democrats represent the overeducated resentful academics. Lots of arrogant intelligent people who want to tell other people how to live their lives. All theory and no experience, stay in your books and out of other people's lives.
There is a serious dumbing down of most U.S. citizens. The ignorant and foolish elected Drumpf.
@@Gabriel_H77it got him elected….
Kamala campaigned with a Cheney and moved right on immigration. Why are people still saying the dems moved too far left? Bernie has been screaming from the rooftops at what is wrong with this country and what is hurting the working class. The dems need to take notes but its uncomfortable because of how much corporate money they get.
Fr, they swung right at the convention and kept on swinging
Dems only moved right after they realized how badly they had screwed themselves. People remember what they have been doing and saying since 2020, not just the last 6 months when they suddenly seemed to remember people care about bread-and-butter and law-and-order issues.
Yes, and sometimes the same people saying "Listen to Bernie" are telling Dems to move to the center.
The problem is Kamala’s pivot to the center was FAKE. They didnt need KAMALA to pivot to the center; the democrats needed a candidate with integrity who actually IS in the center. Don’t you get it? Jeez. It’s like you WANT to lose AGAIN in 2028.
Bernie hasn't said anything about the open borders in years. He's there to stop people from leaving the party, nothing more.
People look at you being too far left with the woke stuff more than anything else. Plus they see crime happening where they won't convict anyone for stealing less than $1K. It's a combination.
It's time for a Bernie Sanders-like candidate...
Maybe… now hear me out… Bernie Sanders?
@MSavage-mk5pn Bernie will be too old in 4 years
@@MSavage-mk5pn unfortunately that ship has sailed. He'll be like 87 in 2028.
that is also a TV star named Jon Stewart
@@MSavage-mk5pn Far-left is a consistent losing position in every poll.
Jon is the reason i have real medical care for my terminal cancer. I see a lot of people say he should run for president here. The way he stood up to Republicans for veterans to get the pact act passed is why he would be so effective. The ability to communicate to the public and put the fear of God in politicians to pass legislation that matters is what we need.
Why the Democrats didn't focus on the success of their programs like Build Back Better amazed me. My state alone hired several thousand workers for bridge and road repair with its alloted funds. Why didn't they stress this in every state?
Cause they want to talk about trans
@@jool4867No, because the Right wanted to “talk about” “trans.” So much so that they dumped millions of dollars into placing one ad everywhere the largest number of “conservatives” were guaranteed to see it.
I agree. However, no brag just facts as counterpoint to the other party approach.
@@jool4867 I have only ever heard about conservatives talk about trans. When did Kamala talk about trans beside that one interview in 2019 when she was pressed on it? Or any Dem politician?
They know how divided this country is on gender and where afraid to admit they actually did something that benefitted men out of fear of losing the votes of the more extreme feminists. It's a sad sentiment.
Respectfully Jon, if you really do not intend to run: _please_ find someone who can. The Democratic Party _needs_ a new captain to put this ship back on course.
Or maybe a new party that doesn't have their head up their ass?
Now, that last part, I'll agree with. So would Jon, Bernie, and any other non-fascist with sense and integrity. A real, competitive primary would have helped this year, even if Harris had still become the likely nominee. The process would have helped her distinguish herself from Biden, given her more opportunities to refine her message, and a greater sense of legitimacy. She would have more practice defending Biden's accomplishments, more time, and a chance to see where her weaknesses were (mostly her 2019 positions that got used so effectively against her, and having to defend ALL of Biden's positions, not just the ones that worked). Also, it would have been apparent earlier that a traditional campaign strategy was less effective in the new media ecosystem we live in.
The Democrats were winning because they were on the wrong side of nearly every current major issue going today. They are for endless wars, stopping crypto growth, open borders, men in women sports, Big pharma profits over Americans health, the Democrat party is despised nowadays because it's no longer for the working class or for young men
. Good luck winning without that group
We need a dnc leader that spearhead trans issues at the fore front!!!!
@@AntiNicolefanClub
I agree, but for that to succeed in the current climate, you're gonna need a _masterful_ mythmaker who can offer America an alternative vision of what it means to have a family. We'll need a politician who can do for all queer folk what Malcom and Martin did for all Black Americans in the 60s.
Not in any way implying it can't be done, but they need to be _very_ good at taking the narrative back from religious bigots. That will take a level of charisma I honestly haven't seen on the political stage yet.
Hey Jon, as a fellow Jon, I echo what everyone else is saying. Run for President! I know youre more than qualified for it!
Oh god, no!😮
God, don't ask Jon to run for president! Yes, he would be a great person for the job but it would probably age him 25 years.
@@gabelily1 I hope you're saying that because you like Jon to much to put him through such a hellish job.
@bubblezlife4 Overqualified. Which is why he will never do it. He has integrity, honesty, intelligence, self respect, and humility.. How many Presidents have all those? Obama is the only one I can think of who even came close.
jon, you are the next generation of leaders, you are the solution, i wish you could see that.
Jon is 61 years old. He's not the next generation of leaders. We 30- and 40-year olds to step up, not 60-year olds.
He’s just the next round of losers! You leftists still haven’t figured it out yet? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
RUN JON RUN
I've said it before and I'll say it again. He has too much honesty and humility to want, or to do, the job of President. Chief advisor, on the other hand . . .
@@natepinson who cares what he wants. This is a reverse dictatorship. The people are forcing him to be president.
@natepinson I don’t think Jon wants the responsibility of having to order something that results in the death of people and sometimes Presidents have to do that. I can respect him for that.
@@jool4867 That, too.
@@natepinson doesn't matter what he wants. it's what we want.
How about fixing this through listening to the fears of both sides and stop lumping everyone on each side into singular stereotypes?
@@raymondjacobs1955 yeah. The left is so sexist and racist when talking politics now. Its kind of insane.
That’s what we need to do characterization and straw manning just fuels the fire and stoakes division
She is completely wrong about needing to move to the right. She is too much in a bubble.
And yes. Please run Jon! We need you.
In the era of absurdity you need the jester. In a way, Zelenskyy who is Ukraine's Jon Stewart proved what Jon is capable of.
Agree. She is missing the working class issues (why???) and why Trump appealed to so many. Felt heard many said.
Need to read artickes in Forbes and other reports and women leaders decreasing in standing. G7 report too.
She's from The Atlantic, a center-right publication that features many conservative voices. And sucks.
Who stayed home? Not the right .
Please run Jon. We need you. Your the only sane person left. PLEASE!!!
I love Jon Stewart. He makes everything better.
I wish he would campaign for reform. 2 parties are not enough and this is causing hatred and tribalism.
Declared topic of the conversation: "Why Men Are Leaving the Left". Invite the guy to make a case for guys. Instead use the time to have the girl make the case for girls. Conclude that America is just irredeemably sexist after all.
I don't think grievance olympics is constructive, but at least acknowledging men have their share of gender-specific hardships that must be addressed is an obvious takeaway from this election. Why is it so hard to talk about it even when this is explicitly the topic?
After the guest section, Jon gets on call with his producers.. three women the first of whom immediately says 'yeah maybe men haven't been heard but women havent' been heard in a long time'. Maybe he's just wanting to keep doing the podcast.
@@TimoRutanen I think Jon could start a new podcast tomorrow out of his basement using airpods from his first ipod and would easily get to a million subscribers. I don't think there is malice or self-interest here. My take: it's just a model for describing reality that Jon has developed over decades of partisan warfare that simply doesn't leave any space for inconvenient truths. Kind of like existence of biblical god is self-evident to many people with religious upbringing. A political theology of sorts.
@@YevgeniyYaroslavskiy I believe that with his chops, he totally could. I didn't really get any revelations out of this video either. And sadly hardly any sharp jokes either!
You all must be watching a different version of Trump than me. There is nothing funny, likable , or relatable about him. He played on people’s fears and prejudices and won.
I find him repugnant, too, but I think the left outrage over some comments was stupid. The shark thing, for example, was clearly intended to be a joke mocking the dangers of electric vehicles. I wanted someone to point out that if he wanted to choose electrocution he should be glad that boat was electric. What I really find absurd is that people are choosing a president based on sense of humor.
30:40 A couple of months ago you had women all over social media saying that all men are more dangerous than a bear and if you say anything that isn't agreeing with that then you're a misogynist. Then you have Michelle's "very powerful speech" which basically sounded like a stern lecture to a teenage son explaining that it's all their fault that Roe got overturned. On the other side you have the manosphere telling men that life is hard and women will never truly care about your struggles so the only thing to do is become cruel. I'm a die hard lefty and even I have been put off by the current discourse so Is it really surprising that Democrats lost ground with men?
It's demoralizing that it takes electing Donald Trump to a second term in order to get anyone to even consider that the misandry might have gone too far. I'm not optimistic it will last.
Don’t forget Obama’s lecture to black men.
I’m a 100% with you lefty myself but the clear open misandry towards men is getting exhausting.
Jon we need you to run
Really wish Jon asked Richard about the issues of Boys and Men rather than kinda just ignoring it and actually just refuting it.
Edit actually I'm appalled that Jon never even asked Richard what are the issues with men and boys, especially with the refuting/downplaying of it he did
Exactly. Richard IS the expert to talk about that and that topic was barely discussed. Republicans didn’t win the male vote; Dems lost it. Republicans have been radicalizing men and boys for several years now. This is not a recent phenomenon.
Jon’s a progressive. Progressives are not interested in learning about issues facing men.
I know... I was sort of counting on Jon, of all people, to be the voice of reason and reconciliation, to provide the nuanced takes. Instead it feels like he gets really close, but something constantly pulls him back into the echo-chamber. This was the excellent opportunity to acknowledge basic reality: men struggle in their own way, we should be thinking how to address this. Instead the key takeaways for them seems to be "men care more about being entertained than addressing existential risks for women". How the hell do you even get there?... I had to listen to this twice because I couldn't believe myself thew first time around.
@@YevgeniyYaroslavskiy What nuanced take could possibly justify a vote for trump? Genuinely curious. Because mens issues are very real, but if you think trump cares then you're either an idiot or unbelievably misinformed. I'm tired of being gaslit that it's somehow our fault that people looked at the convicted sex pest, objective racist, horrible fraudster who cheated people out of their money, and went "You know? I think I'll vote for him". And voting for someone who helped ban abortion does in fact signify that you don't really care about women's lives, it's not rocket science. Women are literally dying because of abortion bans, last time I checked the left isn't openly advocating for policies that would directly kill men.
Again, I do think that the left has isolated men and not been great about cultural issues. But their answer is to turn to fascism? Like seriously? There's no universe where that's a proportional response. You can't drag the left for being to gung-ho about women's issues and thereby isolating men, but then defend people who literally do the same thing in reaction.
You know if you weren't in an echo chamber and cared to listen to women's experiences you'd know that a good portion of the trump voting male genuinely doesn't want women to have the same rights as them. How exactly should we address people who don't want to be addressed... take some accountability you know. It's not all the 'woke' lefts fault. You always have control as to how you react to a bad situation. And a lot of men have chosen to react by listening to far right extremists, that's just a fact.
I really wish that decades ago men (at large) advocated for women's rights, because if they had we wouldn't have this division in the modern era. But they didn't, and women had to fight for all their rights. Women didn't turn to fascism, they lobbied and studied and got in to positions of power fair and square.
But just because a small subsect of the movement went slightly too far you think men are justified to go all the way to the other extreme? It's hypocrisy at it's finest. The very thing you're criticising the left of is the EXACT thing men on the right are doing. I'm sorry that men have been isolated and their issues underdiscussed, but let's not pretend like they have no self agency. Adult men have chosen to listen to figures like andrew tate, a literal abuser and trafficker.
I do want to have an open discussion where we all acknowledge how we've wronged each other, but we can't really do that when one side simply hates the other. Y'all accuse us of an echo chamber yet you apparently can't see just how many men on the right literally hate women and want them to be subservient. I don't know how we de-radicalise these people but pinning the blame solely on the left isn't fair not productive, it just emboldens their aggrieved entitlement.
Idk if it’s time to call gen Z “right wing” yet. The elections they’ve been involved in have been unique and I think there are left candidates that they would LOVE to vote for. It’s just that a Milquetoast centrist isn’t it.
I think just like every previous generation, they're split. And they've got the additional burden of man-o-sphere podcast influencers indoctrinating them with really insane views. So they may have the biggest challenge to overcome in decades to try and swing them to a progressive stance.
Well the males are. This is the troll generation and cruelty is very conservative.
Thats the thing elections will always be unique, but Gen Z definitely is more to the right than millennials, and I think thats because they are the children of Gen X.
Kamala was a milquetoast centrist. She was a phony and everybody saw through it. She f-ed her way to the top through WIllie Brown. She was a tough-on-petty-crime like marijuana, while smoking it herself. She’s trying to about black pride and all that, but marries a white guy (who is total slime and f-ed his nanny). The problem with Kamala is Kamala. The problem with the Dems is that they went full-woke and thought a DEI black woman ‘veep’ would be enough to beat the crazy orange conman. Nope. We’d rather have the conman. You guys blew it. Kamala was a horrible candidate, sh’es not a ‘centrist’ and her pivot was fake. Bernie would’ve been better, even though he’s more left wing on economic issues, b/c he’s authentic and appeals to working class, which cuts across race and, so, ironically, is more authentically ‘diverse’ than the fake DEI SJW bs.
@@hughdidit its funny because I find myself very much so having more democrat positions than republican, but when I read how democrats think about us young males I want to vote against them out of spite, which is exactly what I did, I voted for Trump. Thank you for reaffirming my spite.
@ 13:30
I couldn’t disagree more. I think Kamala was incredibly transparent about her far more forward-thinking policies than by hinting at 'a concept of a plan'. She was about further economic recovery through fair taxation of the obscenely wealthy, protecting reproductive health & supporting the middle class's ability to become first time homeowners.
Likewise, Biden was responsible for the most impressive economic restoration in American history, after the pandemic, dropping the unemployment rate lower than it's ever been & pushing forward with the CHIPS Act, as well as empowering/improving infrastructure and manufacturing in a country that had been letdown in these specific areas after the previous president promised and lied about doing both. Biden's accomplishments aren’t well-known because he's been too busy working these past 4 years. He was about action, not about false bragging.
MEANWHILE, Trump was repeatedly voted the worst president in history by legitimate historians, accomplished nothing but failures & a big hike in his own income, as well as the income of his family, all while claiming accomplishments that were never his to begin with.
The real true issue is something Jon touched on in his most recent episode hosting The Daily Show, the Conservative right-wingers do NOT play by the rules, they focus on fallacies & claim that your freedoms and rights are at stake, while further restricting your personal freedoms.
I think Jon nailed it earlier in the podcast, the younger generation (specifically men) voted for the more entertaining candidate.
Republicans are the Clickbait Political Party, that is it! It is not our best interest they have at heart, it is their own bottom line, vis-a-vis, filling their own pocketbooks.
Trump is a cult leader and his followers ate eagerly overfilling their cups of Kool-Aid.
I agree, generally, but I do think the current administration didn't do enough to make sure people were aware of what they were doing. I believe part of why people thought Trump was so great was that he constantly told them he was great. He took credit (loudly) for anything that went well. Biden had tons he could have bragged about, but (imo because he had been burnt by the media long before) didn't make much noise about it. I do think the point about Walz going on podcasts to shoot the shit and bring up what the administration had done for their area(s) was a good one.
Also, sometimes the perspective of people is mind boggling. I saw, I believe on the Bulwark, a woman saying the economy sucks because everyone's hiring. If nobody can find workers the economy must be horrible. Really???? *facepalm*
Trump also had the lowest unemployment rate so that's a wash. The chips act excited me at the time, and then there was massive layoffs in that industry. I had to move states to get another job.
Kamala needed to tell us what we could clearly see - BIDEN SUCKS! More of the same is the LAST thing this country needs. Time for CHANGE.
Yep. And Tim Walz spent the 100 days talking everywhere - often to relatively bi-partisan audiences - in his usual free-wheeling style. Even without looking specifically for Walz, videos & live-streams of his appearances popped up every time I logged onto UA-cam during the campaign. Where Richard Reeves got the notion that Walz "stood still" and said nothing is unfathomable.
@@bethh5464no. he's right in a sense. Waltz as a former coach would have been the perfect to guy to try and get the male vote but they were so afraid of losing female votes by doing that that they decided never to address men exclusively.
They had an ace and decided not to play it. A sad sentiment to the gender division.
Stop the presses, tell MAGA that *legitimate* historians voted Trump the worst president in history. That will surely change their minds about him.
(and people wonder why dems lost lol)
everyone's great but im always so impressed by Gillian's insights and contributions
Gov Walz has proven record in MN.
ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!!! 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
Walz is a creep
I appreciate the non-alarmist tone ....very grounded and good
Jon does have a great radio voice- gravelly, yet soothing and
Thank you Jon. You help me make it through. You're far from an unheard voice. I agree with you on everything I've heard you say. Loved it when you suggested Kurt Vonnegut for people to read. You just rock.
They thought they were voting for Bread, but they were clearly voting for Circus.
They knew they were voting for a troll, and they are enjoying the trolling.
Haha so funny dumb$^_$
I voted for Harris to make the women in my life happy, I’m a life-long democrat, and I’m concerned about Trump’s dictatorial tendencies, not because I thought she would work towards my interests.
haha
@@theorpheumcircuit The kind where the lion eats the tamer, the trapeze artist uses the crowd as a net, and the fire eater burns down the tent while the elephants just stand there looking stupid.
We need you as president
Jon's juicing up his podcast for the next election. Appreciate it brother, I'm somewhat apart of the brosphere (All-IN, Lex listener). It's been nice to have a new podcast that's a bit more left leaning but still really honest and considered to balance things out.
If you only go to right-wing sites - you would get the impression that Donald was a Super-Cowboy President - they play clips from 2016 rallies - they selectively edit his comments - they never hear democratic talking points (except Pete Buttigieg on Fox) - they never see Donald losing his train of thought -
Have you considered the idea that you deserve to lose?
Jon I’m echoing what everyone else is saying. Please run for President in 2028!💙
Power corrupts. Leave him uncorrupted.
Corrupt Jon!
@Gabriel_H77 While I’m in agreement with you Jon has been in roles of power (at least on TV) for over 30 years and he’s still one of the good ones. Point being, I don’t think he would become corrupted but rather do what’s right
@Yourmission9 A TV star actually has zero power, but they may have some limited influence, and that does not make a basis for leadership - Have y'all really not learned that lesson over the last 8 years?
That's insane.
Jon Stewart for President 2029!!! Run Jon!!!
Go Jon-e-boy! - I get more laughs out of The Weekly Show than I do from The Daily Show. Certainly more insight. Lovez ya & yer Crüe - from Canada! ❤🍁
Playfulness? Like blowing a microphone?
I know, WTF are they talking about?!?
I find that as hideous as you clearly do, but tbh, I can see some young guys thinking that was funny. Instead of judging them, which I want to do, I'd suggest asking is that what we want to send to negotiate with other world leaders?
I haven't a clue. The guy is a humorless prick. You barely can find video of him genuinely laughing or smiling.... Although he did have a big grin on his face the other day when they made RFK Jr eat McDonalds....
100 percent agree on the muzzling of Tim Walz. SNL even did a bit about it. If he had been given free reign, even if he made mistakes along the way, we might have had a better result.
I absolutely agree! He comes across as a real man in a non-toxic way and he's funny. He would have had to address the tampon thing, but that's really straightforward if it's directly addressed. That shit's expensive and he wanted to help just like he wanted to help by feeding schoolkids.
😂😂😂😂😂😂 and you leftists wonder why you lost?
@@ColoradoHippie😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 the moron was almost as fake as Kommiela!
I'm MAD AS HELL AND I"M NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANY MORE‼
"Women have not been addressed for a very long time" ... was she in a coma during the Me Too movement? I get that we're not in a perfect society after it, but come on.
The entire Media let him get away with a lack of specificity. Nobody pressed him for details.
Welcome to Richard Reeves. I'm a long time fan and met him at a library talk. I think the man is correct and always has been.
Love Richard Reeves. One of the few non-reactionary voices advocating for men and their mental health.
There is a difference between being 'pro union' and being 'pro union worker'. Using the government to break a strike isn't pro worker.
Louis DeJoy has already been hard at work dismantling our Postal Service.
So why did the Biden administration decided to keep him in the position?
I do not agree with Jon on many issues. But. I acknowledge his wisdom. May he be around for many years.
This lady is wrong. The democrats did not move too far to the left or cater to the left too much in the election. They had issues with messaging, charisma and they catered too much to the right (cozying up with the Cheneys and big business).
Also, Jon Stewart 2028. We need you, buddy. Jon your knowledge and understanding of the Democrat’s missteps more than prove how great a president you would be.
You mean they were being democrats?!
I think to make sense of it you have to move beyond a simplistic "left vs right" model. They abandoned broadly popular, universalist economically left-wing policies. They instead focussed on divisive radical identity politics, and neoliberalism. Then brought in a couple of war-hawk neocons, just to ensure they alienated even more voters.
If anything from what I've seen in certain spaces, democrats moved far too much to the right. Bernie and his positions were incredibly popular until the DNC killed his candidacy.
@@RochelleBayneexactly. If they adopted his policies they would be unbeatable.
😮 did u just call her “ Lovely Lady!”??
If you don’t have a plan for SCOTUS you don’t have a plan at all
Jon Stewart 2028
Richard Reeves is great as always.
Lower income shifting to trump NOT ex of less income polarization. Lower income people felt left behind by BOTH. Who uses "working class" as a term. The "middle class is our backbone" said during pandemic. Who was working at home? How did toiling workers at Tyson feel about that!
Jon Stewart: Hey Democrats, do you have any of those new generations of leadership yet? Dems: Hey Jon, are you maybe able to work more than just Mondays, and could you run for president?
Women became complete citizens in 1974 when we gained the right to develop credit, own property and have physical autonomy. By 1979 we had to have a new men's movement because woman had gotten attention for a whole 5 years as we built lives for ourselves. I don't understand what they are so afraid of, from here it looks like they are afraid of not being the center of attention.
You don't understand because you don't want to understand.
Something needs to be said about the moral absolutism that exists on the left which has resulted in people moving right.
If there is someone the left agrees with 99% but disagree on 1%, they will disavow them.
If there is someone the right disagrees with 99% but agrees on 1%, they will celebrate that similarity.
Moral absolutists cost Kamala the election (those that didn't vote for issues like Gaza and whatnot are what made the difference versus the record 2020 turnout).
Just like “Bernie Bros” cost Hillary the 2016 election, right?
You’re completely right, but good luck getting it through most on the left’s heads. I’ve been trying to for decades now, all while voting for (and marching for) liberal and leftist causes. The amount of times I’ve been called out or given an earful because I strayed half an inch from the party line…
It happens on the right as well.
@@SalmonLord14 Me too. I'm fairly liberal but have been literally yelled at by my own daughter because I didn't think leaving anyone, even murderers and child molesters, in prison was a good idea. Really?
@@tophers3756 Not nearly as much. And not nearly as much as it used to.
Jon's fifty shades of grey is blending in with the furniture. Love you, Jon, get a shirt with color
Great show.👍
I'm in my 60's and being a young male has always had its frustrations and irritations, this is called life. I find it ironic that these same guys who are so obsessed with everyone else being weak, or whiny, or woke, or 'feminized', etc. are...weak and whiny, everything is someone else's fault. Combine that with the age of the internet and they get caught in a vicious unending loop of egging each other on, confusing their in-group with the wider world.
We had guys like this back in the day but they were scattered about, the exception, and eventually when left to the progression of getting older in the real world they grew out of the angst, or most did, the rest ended up in prison or dead. The odd thing is they don't seem to understand they are (in the arc of history) only VERY RECENTLY feeling what they think is some type of discrimination when their gender and race has had baked-in privilege, but somehow take issue with groups that had generation after generation of discrimination and a hard fight to get basic rights, but yet they disparage those same groups. Kinda weird, a bit embarrassing, and a double standard honestly.
In reply to the man in his 60s. I am a woman in my 60s and I so agree with what you said! I find what is going on with this transition so harmful and hurtful to women. The Gaetz pick and his pick for the Department of Defense. I understand young men being frustrated, but to follow sexually abusive immature men and to look to them as leaders of our country? I don’t have the words right now except to say that women are dying in states where some men think women should be sacrificed on the altar of motherhood.
the “scattered about” was such an important guardrail for maintaining societal stability that the internet broke. they couldn’t do much damage before in ones and twos. now they can congregate in one virtual space, and that makes them a dangerous force. there are so many affinity groups that are only possible because of the internet. conspiracies theories spread that never could have before. most are harmless, like the flat-earthers. but others turn into violence in the real world, like the Unite the Right hate rally in Charlottesville.
like the the printing press, and the upheaval that follow, we final created rule. i hope we get there with the internet before it destroys every liberal democracy in the world.
Yeah. But that's what's happening to extreme leftists aswell. Everyones in their echo chambers getting more extreme and spiteful against the other side.
Also since you're a boomer you in no way had to deal with as shitty as an economy young people today have to deal with.
Young is wasted on the youth!
Gen X here….shut up, boomer.
You have to run Jon its you. The best leaders are the guys and gals who don't want to do it!
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I love Jon. There I said it.
Great talk, I recently read Richards book and it one of my favs of the year for the way it delves into the topic.
Well, you can find him funny and good company and relatable and whatever. For us he's scary. Pure horror// Love, Europe.
Rest assured; many of us do not find him funny, good company and relatable. Scary. The best I can do is pray for his soul.
I am fed up with people saying "The Democrats ran too far to the left." I'm on the left, and I never heard a Democratic message that made me think they were going left.
It’s really just social issues that crowd gets inflamed by.
I believe even Obama flipped his views on gay marriage from 2008 to 2012.
I don’t know how you can reconcile with that crowd.
What are you talking about they're far left on every issue. In fact they've taken over the entire party and sadly the center can't defend this nonsense that's why they've lost people like RFK and Tulsi and Elon because the far left no controls everything about the Democrat party
They were very unabashedly courting moderate republicans. Also, let's not pretend like there is any leftist representation in the US....Conservatives have shifted the overton window so far to the right that republicans are far right and democrats are center right....
It would help if you took your fingers out of your ears.
Probably because you’re farther to the left of center than you think.
I love Annie Lowreys insights and the comments here are the very reason we lost to a dismal candidate who burned down the country on Jan 6th. You learn from your failures and come back stronger or just perish- Id rather the center left learn and survive
There are so many people that want Jon to run in 2028 that we might as well start making the hats, shirts and lawn signs. I'm serious.
Yep. Let me know when you’re selling them!
I don't know why people keep harping on that. Look at what that office does to a man, it's a hellscape of stress and BS, I would not wish that on anyone decent, or on their family. It's a nice thought but not very feasible from a mental health standpoint.
I think it was Jon that said that the best president do not wanna be president.... So let's just do it against his will. Honestly would be the funniest shit ever
@@d4mdcykey agree, however, we haven't at least in the recent monory seen someone in that role who is not shackled by the party apparatus. Trump came closest in the worst way, but not someone not narcissistic and with actual empathy!
@@sethmeyer2443 Anyone know how to start a pac? I'm serious too.
Cabinet name: Loyal Lackeys
Clowns & Creeps
The ass and the kissers
I figured this would play like an old never married cat lady explaining how to find love and I wasn’t disappointed.
“Why are men leaving the Democratic Party? Let’s ask the liberal woman!” LOL 🤦♂️ smh
@@jvick87 exactly, as a man born in 94 I used to love Jon. He hit the nail on the head everytime. But now Jon is so out of touch. When is the last time he spent time with a regular young guy? Seems like he only has elite rich people or activist PoC on the podcast.
When you say Kamala is an amazingly talented politician, what talents specifically, are you referring to? I'm genuinely curious.
She’s actually a very poor candidate. If they didn’t knw that in 2020, they won’t figure it out now.
Maybe a Gong Show template for nominating candidates?
Thanks for this wrap up
Thank you sir.
Run for Prez.
💙
I am an immigrant, a naturalized US citizen from Eastern Europe.
White, late 30s, upper middle class who recently started a family. I've historically voted democrat but I sat this election out.
And my reason is quite simple, I've seen a terrifying trend in American Politics, where the parties no longer reflect the will and interest of the people. Modern political parties assume a position and dictate it to the electorate. The system is inherently broken, there is too much money in politics, too many corporate interests, and both parties are equally guilty of it.
Reagan has turned all of America incredibly right, and with economic conservativism being so deeply ingrained in the system the left goes "left" on the most absurd issues... Things like healthcare, an end to foreign wars, an end to foreign entanglements... these are radical ideas in the US, and US Alone... for crying out loud ppl in this country call Bernie Sanders a communist....
we still love you john. hold tight. breathe deep.
It's strange how we have to address division by breaking things done into more divisions.
Finally, if the DNC and the worst rep of that-Wasserman Schultz-had allowed a freaking primary, maybe we would have done better. Jeez!
The right tried to tell you but you said Kamala is who you wanted and would've just won the primaries anyways.
A podcast about men that barely talked about men
Asking a woman about the minds of men is an exercise in futility.
That's the same way women feel about men making decisions about abortion.
@@kathleengreer4639 Ah the abortion as a form of birth control crowd chimes in.
I’m halfway through and they’ve been completely off the main topic for most of it. I wonder why men are leaving…
@@kathleengreer4639 Except the question of abortion has never been about the woman's mindset at all. It's about the life of the unborn child. If you believe a fetus to be a person from the moment of conception, endowed with all the rights bound in personhood, the chief among them is the right to life, then to you abortion is murder. And we generally don't ask, in society, what a murderer thinks about their right to murder, we plainly tell them, "you can't, and if you do it, you'll face legal consequences."
That's the entire argument. "Is an unborn child a person." Pro-life people say unequivocally "yes," pro-choice people are somewhere on the spectrum between "no," and "yes, but..."
@@Borissh89yep it will always be tricky because when something is “alive” is up philosophical and scientific debate. Which kicks sticky. It’s simplistically looked at as sexist power dynamics but it’s philosophically difficult
Love how everyone is an expert on tariffs these days. Here in Australia, we've been impacted enormously by China's tariffs and you sense relief in the media whenever our Chinese overlords lift a tariff or two. I never realized this whole time China were destroying their own economy with tariffs. Thank you American economic experts.
So we have to dumb it down to make it palatable for public consumption. Wouldn't it be nice if we had a halfway intelligent electorate.
We have to meet people where they are, not where we wish they would be.
That kind of thought is exactly what got Trump elected. Just assuming everyone is dumb is a sure way to lose, and a really crappy message
Yeah but that is not how this works. It would be great if everyone followed road rules but we still wear our seat belt in case of an accident don't we?
Democracy needs a few things to function correctly:
1) A free press - not a sensationalist one
2) An informed electorate
3) Bipartisanship
What it doesn't actually need? Elections.
Democratic governance can exist without elections, but rather than focus on the three things that are needed, everyone focuses on the one thing that isn't.
@@BakavāsaFèihuà-k6xAccidents happen whether road rules are followed or not.
My take is it was a victory for the ruling class. "Divide and rule." There are many moving parts and no simple solution. It's amazing how easily the human mind can be manipulated. Was Aristotle right?
I once heard Fareed Zakaria say that people can only handle change at a certain pace. I suspect that white male fragility has been triggered, in part, by how quickly some in the country want to move away from existing inequalities (and rightly so, having seen the issue clearly). Sadly, I worry the Trump cabinet nominees seem to embody that backlash.
Someone replied to my comment on a different YT video saying the trans thing is too soon after the gay rights thing. Not saying they don't have rights that deserve to be respected but that the pace of change is too fast and created backlash. It sucks, but it made me think. Then I saw someone else screaming about how they weren't going to vote for another Democrat who ignored trans rights. I feel a bit like the left is trapped.
Bad take. People want faster change, not slower. The only thing that has been triggered is the systemic sidelining of the middle and working classes, and the failure of either party to pursue or enact meaningful change to that system. White males are quite generous and chill when they have jobs and income. You just can't prioritize the self-actualization of fringe identities over the base needs of the majority. Who'da thunk?
Wow what a losing thinking. Do better, your incompetence is showing....that's real fragility
Wow what a losing thinking. Do better, your incompetence is showing....that's real fragility
I hope to hear a lot more talks like this.
Still out of touch 👍
I loved-LOVED-Kamala Harris. Still do. And I loved her in the 2020 election and was bummed when she dropped out. What all the pundits don’t seem to address is the elephant of racism in the room. Not only is Harris a woman, but she’s a black woman. It was sexism, too. I’m 60 years old. We’ve had more than two women run for president by the way. Our country is just rife with bone deep sexism and racism.
Love you Jon. I am trying to keep somewhat open minded to see if any of Trump's ideas work. It's just so hard to like this ignorant, low class human, and MTG? Now Dr Oz. I hope the universe has a surprise for us and we have to see what that is.
I would call his cabinet the Idiocracy Entourage, or the Jim Jones Reunion Tour Sycophants
Lots didnt go right. They just... went.
I voted for Trump/Vance /Rfkjr/Tulsi & i actually found this podcast interesting & reasonable.. one of the more honest takes from the left i have heard about the election. & atleast some ppl on the left are realizing they need to reform the democrat party ect..
And then last panel just ruined it with blaming sexism & racism lol if they had stronger better woman canidates it would have been a different story. And actually had fair primarys.Or a primary at all.
Yes, two things can be true and one of those things can be that Hillary was not popular. PLEASE let it go.
Yeah, I'm very tired of people using Hillary's loss as proof of sexism. I'm definitely not sexist and I voted 3rd party in '16 (in a safely blue state because I'm not a moron) because I hated her. I'm sure I'm not the only one.
damn, Jon's got some honeys working for him.
I absolutely did not see the appeal of the GOP candidate nor of the platform. No offense, but we do not need Jon Stewart as a future president. Keep him questioning the issues and approaches or lack of approaches to issues. I agree on messaging about all the accomplishments in the Biden administration. Tell the people what you will do, tell them what you have done, and show specific examples of what you have done over and over again and we are pleased to serve the people. Re The View: I can't think of anything right now, but I can tell you about the many, many things our Administration did. How much time do you have?
I left dem party after 60 years. Biden's wars were last straw.
"this is the time to create anew" yes if the spoiler candidates want to pretend they're not spoilers, now is the time for them to show up for the people
Men got kicked out of the party in 2016. Anyone remember "Bernie Bros?" it was around this time that "toxic masculinity" invented to used against them.
I get that, and I'm a woman (and a Bernie Bro? lol). I think sometimes liberal women get so wrapped up in defending women's rights that they forget men aren't the enemy. I'm curious, though. Did you vote for Harris? Would you vote for Gretchen Witmer? (I'm absolutely not calling you sexist, btw, just wondering as you feel kicked out of the Democratic party. I tried but failed to think of a younger, male version of Bernie to add to the list.)
Oh please. The idea of toxic masculinity goes way back. And if you think that alienated men generally then it says more about you than it does the Dems
Trump worries about what could get him out of office. He fears the 25th Amendment, so loyalty is his most important qualification for cabinet members.
The term toxic masculinity was most certainly NOT "basically born in 2016." It is from the 1980s. But the concept WAS used by some MSNBC hosts & guests to describe "Bernie BROS" in 2016.
The "Bernie Bros" pejorative was the begining of the end. No way Trump would have been elected, once let alone twice, if dems didn't denigrate the largest intersectional identity of voters in America. Just dumb politics to do that, but when you gotta protect the donor class, you gotta do what you gotta do.
The term was actually started by men's groups to describe how certain toxic masculine beliefs and behaviors hurt men. The media and feminists co-opted the term and redefined it to mean masculinity was toxic.
The cabinet nickname ... The "Useless and Trendy"? "The Shock and Aw-Shit"? "The Staff of Fools"? "The Dubious Dozen (or so)"?
I fully agree. Why didn’t they let Tim Walz do his thing? It was working! Wtf happened?
KH was pulled to the right by her advisers and by Hillary Clinton. They also muzzled Tim Walz because insiders wanted Shapiro.
my guess is the Dems didn't want the man to upstage the woman 'cause FEMINISM and DEI. DEI means white men have had it too good for too long, so now it's Tim Walz's time to sit at the back of the bus and be silent. This left-wing attack on men's been going on for a decade. People are calling it "the lost decade of entertainment" because every tv show and movie is woke trash. It's gotten so bad that multi-billion dollar franchises like Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, and Marvel are all failing and the audience is pissed off. And all those pissed off people voted Red.
Are men leaving the left or the dem party? There is a big difference.
Gonna echo others. Run Jon, Run. :)
Jon Stewart doing the Lords work these last couple of weeks.