Gen Z’s View of Work Could Break America | Anthony Scaramucci and David Bahnsen I Open Book

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  • @therealanthonyscaramucci
    @therealanthonyscaramucci  День тому +7

    What gives you meaning in your life? Comment below.

    • @RonaldPetrin
      @RonaldPetrin 20 годин тому +1

      The entire journey. The whole enchilada in balance know your doses choose the easiest path in a perilous journey full of new discoveries.
      You need to appreciate and honor natures critical balance and self healing potential in all life, as we evolve and adapt, my opinion.
      Choose your battles carefully especially if you’re a changer.
      Learn the language of functionality of life and its basic needs.
      Bring something to the game leave it better than you found it.
      Mission and purpose and mode, batabing fir now anyway.
      Remember to speak for those with drowned out screams of injustice or destruction of all life flora snd fauna without voice.
      “If a tree falls in the forest” does anyone hear it?
      What one eats in heart and mind body determines one outcome. This applies to the collective as well.
      “Genesis” to me is Jorma K’s, (it wont allow my spelling of last name dumb phone.)

    • @RonaldPetrin
      @RonaldPetrin 19 годин тому

      Work is a blessing.

    • @RonaldPetrin
      @RonaldPetrin 19 годин тому

      Bring meaning to others, my purpose.
      Nice close Mooch love of life live in love and harmony. Enjoy the yin-yang good and bad and learn from your mistakes.
      You closed with journey, after Ive written to this close.
      “Relax no-ones gonna get out alive”.

    • @RonaldPetrin
      @RonaldPetrin 19 годин тому

      You’ll be so glad you shared times with your mom. I am. RIP to my mom. We’re both of mediterranean decent…Catholic upbringing.
      She blew your hypothetical😂 you wouldn’t take job you don’t like”, priceless ma!

    • @RonaldPetrin
      @RonaldPetrin 19 годин тому +1

      Its important to finally get the mindful messaging sorely needed, out to the “yutes” of today. They were left behind by an educational system that’s in critical care and is experiencing cut backs still amongst nationwide levy increase refusals, in favor of privileged “Charter Schools”.
      This is the last thing we need.

  • @robertborglund5783
    @robertborglund5783 20 годин тому +102

    Inequality, CEO'S making a thousand times more than guy on floor kills your desires to bust butt.

    • @catgladwell5684
      @catgladwell5684 20 годин тому +28

      Exactly. I don't like the "kids today - tut tut" vibe of this video. Not a good look, Anthony. It's the times that have changed not the people.

    • @Bagsn86
      @Bagsn86 19 годин тому +13

      I think this is the core of the problem. CEO are completely removed from. Day to day and could care less about employees ability to provide for their families

    • @geraldbutler5484
      @geraldbutler5484 15 годин тому

      Inequality in the US has climbed to absurd levels. 3 men owning more than 40% of the population. That is becoming revolution numbers, share it or lose it is getting closer. Trump is elected to smash the system- he won’t! The Democrats and the congress are all bought off by the billionaires and the corporations.

    • @AlGrant-bh9or
      @AlGrant-bh9or 13 годин тому +2

      You guys are absolutely right.

  • @rabukan5842
    @rabukan5842 17 годин тому +56

    Sorry Mooch, some of the happiest people I’ve met are Europeans and Scandinavians, who don’t live to work, but work to live. They have lots of family/friend and leisure time, yet they also generally like to work, but it doesn’t have to define them.

    • @denisefelton5207
      @denisefelton5207 14 годин тому +2

      Agreed. It sounds like fear to me. Guest announced with finality an overall decline in economy results from reduced work week hours. This is naive and speaks to me of our American tradition of superiority 🤔 feelings. European nations have alternative practices working as well as those in this country and it would be wise to research, IMHO

    • @fredphlogiston4620
      @fredphlogiston4620 9 годин тому +2

      I am from Europe and have a 38 hour work week, a granted 13th wage at the end of the year and 6 weeks paid vacation. We have paid maternity leave for 7 months. The big difference between Americans and Europeans is that we had to live through the industrial revolution were workers in the 19th century had to work 80 hours a week and die at 35. In the new world there was a scarcity of workers and plenty of land so that they couldn't be exploited the same way.
      If workers can be exploited or not I as matter of surrounding conditions. If the surrounding conditions allow to exploit workers or don't allow to live on a living wage you need politics to regulate the relationship between workers and employer.
      The problem is that Americans are brainwashed to think that everything depends on oneself and everything else is unamerican.

    • @rabukan5842
      @rabukan5842 7 годин тому

      @ Yup. I spend a lot of time in Europe and Asia. Americans have no idea how much better many of these countries have with work, healthcare, education, and way of life.

  • @egx161
    @egx161 16 годин тому +25

    Why is it always that rich people who don’t have to work as much or as hard , can tell working people they aren’t working hard enough? Sitting at home and not worrying about your rent or bills must be nice.

  • @buzz4346
    @buzz4346 20 годин тому +72

    Let's hear the "intellectual discourse" on how it came to be that the ratio of CEO pay to worker pay in the 1960s was approximately 25 to 1 and today the ratio is nearly 400 to 1.

    • @georgettelevesque277
      @georgettelevesque277 20 годин тому +10

      Agree 100%!

    • @geraldbutler5484
      @geraldbutler5484 15 годин тому

      That is the way that capitalism always trends! Only government can intervene but the government has been bought by the ultra capitalists. Big wars rejig the system but the are getting too deadly to contemplate.

  • @str1cklybizn3ss67
    @str1cklybizn3ss67 16 годин тому +23

    16:32 he didnt start Tesla. He bought it. got into a huge legal fight with the original founders to be able to use the word founder to describe himself. However the biggest issue with this comparison more broadly is he didnt DO any of those things. He funded them. The people on the ground DID those things. He just created a means for them to accomplish these things.

    • @JLJones-b2u
      @JLJones-b2u 12 годин тому

      @@str1cklybizn3ss67 !!!!!!

  • @stt5v2002
    @stt5v2002 17 годин тому +25

    I worked 60-80 hours per week from age 18 to 29. Very unhappy. From age 30 to 36 I worked about 40-45 hrs per week. Much happier, but still not that happy. From age 37-45 I worked about 30 hours per week. Much much much happier. From age 45-48 I worked about 25 hours a week. Happier than I had ever been before. From age 49-50, my current age, I work about 12 hours a week. I love life every day. Every single day. I like work more than I ever did before. Here is what you are missing. I made and have a lot of money. It’s not the work that makes you happy. It’s the money.

    • @robert-king-d7t
      @robert-king-d7t 14 годин тому +4

      The freedom which comes from money.

    • @godspeed2939
      @godspeed2939 10 годин тому

      @@stt5v2002 BRAVO👏🏻👏🏻

  • @Urgurl514
    @Urgurl514 19 годин тому +23

    A big part of the reason people are less motivated to work is because the American dream is much further out of reach than ever in the history of this country

    • @lisabonanno3839
      @lisabonanno3839 18 годин тому +3

      Yes! Everything, everything costs increasing amounts of cash. It’s impossible to build your own home, fix your own car, grow your own food, make your own clothes without special equipment, land, skills, and time. We are all working 2-3 jobs just to stay on the hamster wheel!

    • @kathrynmessina8137
      @kathrynmessina8137 15 годин тому

      Naa that book was fiction

  • @gunny1391
    @gunny1391 19 годин тому +31

    There's nothing that gets under my skin more than labeling an entire generation of people into your individual world view. So to put it more accurately, some people accept being institutionalized to work more than others. Work is modern day slavery to some people. There's no loyalty on either side of labor. We're all born into a system we have zero influence on in our first 18 years of life. You see work unraveling because humanity has never stayed the same, we will continue to evolve. Work would be more accepted if the system and institutions weren't so financially predatory. People are tired of grinding just to have their gains consumed by a system that can put it's hands in your pocket whenever it wants to. People are tired of being taxed to death, and the cost of everything going up. I give the younger generations credit for not being brainwashed into a system that generally doesn't gaf about you. I have an idea, quit taking from your people, quit trying to control everyone, take care of your people, and the system will flourish organically.

    • @lisabonanno3839
      @lisabonanno3839 18 годин тому +2

      Very well said!

    • @medp5636
      @medp5636 16 годин тому +1

      Best sentence… ‘work would be more accepted…’predatory’ sums it up perfectly! I’m going to clip this for future use! Thank you!

    • @beverlymcgrath8441
      @beverlymcgrath8441 10 годин тому +1

      Bam!

    • @godspeed2939
      @godspeed2939 10 годин тому

      @@gunny1391 They call us the “Fodder” and “Useless Eaters” We’ve known since movie star Reagan ( what a waste) that we are their slaves with their foot on the back of our necks. Everyone don’t go to work for 2weeks strike against the American slavery of the working people

    • @atiredcliche
      @atiredcliche 21 хвилина тому

      Thank you, Gunny! Semper Fi!

  • @AndreasSvenska
    @AndreasSvenska 19 годин тому +25

    Fully half of the workforce, work is a meaningless drudgery full of pain and/or danger. I enjoyed work because I was educated. The idea that work is intrinsically enjoyable is utter nonsense - it depends on the type of work.

    • @kimoandrews5802
      @kimoandrews5802 18 годин тому +3

      That is why they call it work.

    • @AndreasSvenska
      @AndreasSvenska 17 годин тому

      @ Those of us with a fully developed vocabulary have many synonyms for employment from which we can choose. I think that you missed the point … perhaps due to your limited life experience. Solving a math problem is very different from unloading a box car full of barley.

    • @fredphlogiston4620
      @fredphlogiston4620 9 годин тому

      @@kimoandrews5802 That's not true. It depends o the type of work. There are dull jobs and interesting jobs.

  • @robbetts
    @robbetts 19 годин тому +41

    This dude is a rare miss for the Mooch. What a tedious, tired take on a subject that is so much more nuanced and deep than "these kids today don't want to work". I want my half hour back.

    • @TisDana
      @TisDana 16 годин тому

      This is not a rare miss. It’s becoming the norm.

    • @robbetts
      @robbetts 16 годин тому +1

      @@TisDana I'll take your word for it. I haven't seen evidence of that yet.

    • @JerseyJersey100
      @JerseyJersey100 14 годин тому +5

      That was embarrassing.
      Any discussion on why Gen Z doesn’t want to work must include their parents, my generation. After our fathers worked 80hr weeks their entire lives they later in life were very vocal about how they regretted working so much and wished they’d spent more time with family.
      Gen Z is the result of 40yrs and multiple generations. It’s pathetic that corporations aren’t paying proper wages and instead are still in the ‘they don’t wanna work’ PR phase.
      News flash:no one wants to work. We do it for the benefits it provides and the #1 factor on working is the Pay so I ain’t mad at kids who recognize the pay vs cost of living doesn’t math out and that they’ll sit out until wages match cost of living.

    • @kimoandrews5802
      @kimoandrews5802 13 годин тому

      @@robbetts Dana is a misandrist.

    • @godspeed2939
      @godspeed2939 10 годин тому

      @@robbetts You got that f****** right. . Coddled republicans

  • @Benjaminfreedman-l6r
    @Benjaminfreedman-l6r 16 годин тому +49

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    • @OliviaSteven81
      @OliviaSteven81 15 годин тому +5

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    • @Gweeen12
      @Gweeen12 15 годин тому +3

      Honestly, our government has no idea how people are suffering these days. I feel sorry for disabled people who don't get the help they deserve. All thanks to Mr Michael Wayne, imagine investing $1000 and receiving $5700 in a few days..

    • @Schiffmiller-i9z
      @Schiffmiller-i9z 15 годин тому

      I'm in a similar situation where should I look to increase income? Do you have any advice? What did you do? Thank you

    • @shriekitsallie
      @shriekitsallie 15 годин тому

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      @Jacobkluge 15 годин тому

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  • @larryannunziata8341
    @larryannunziata8341 18 годин тому +22

    I think you guys are missing something big. Those who are working in something that is not a match for their talents and interests feel very drained by work. Those that do match find meaning. It is also important to note Socrates complained about the next generation. When you look at the situation where execs make hundreds of times more than their average workers. People are not fairly complemented and are disrespected in work.
    You should also note that the baby boomers were literally rebuilding a world devastated by world war. Also note that the average compensation difference between CEO was 20 to 1 now it is more than 200 to 1. The highest tax bracket was like 70 percent. The average 1 percent of earners pay about 28 percent today. I pay way more than that. Most Americans can’t afford a $400 unexpected bill without getting a loan. You are glossing over that cost of housing and the percentage of income that costs most American, the cost of good, and the fact that Americans workers are over worked and underpaid. They are also met with the constant threat of job loss. When people do not have a promise or hope to get ahead, they check out. American workers need hope! It is not laziness, it is despair!!

    • @godspeed2939
      @godspeed2939 10 годин тому

      @@larryannunziata8341 Exactly!

    • @Lord_Nordan
      @Lord_Nordan 3 години тому +1

      "It is not laziness, it is despair!!" So very true.

    • @larryannunziata8341
      @larryannunziata8341 48 хвилин тому

      The fundamental contract with the American workers was broken in the 80s. This was caused by 3 things: trickle down economics, corporations starting prioritizing shareholder instead of employees, and overseas outsourcing. They moved from pensions to 401k. If you adjust for inflation workers pay stagnated while management pay exploded. They also moved exec pay to equity rather than pay and bonuses. This reduced their taxes tremendously.Millennials saw their parents get thrown away and decided that corporations do not deserve their loyalty. Gen Z took that farther. They decided that companies need to earn their talents. Companies now do not invest in training their employees the same way because they are sure they will leave.
      We need a new contract. First we should move to demand side economics. Money given to those that need to spend does much more to stimulate the economy. We also need to even out the pay in balance between the worker and executives. This is harder. Perhaps a new age of unions. Lastly we need a purpose. Companies need to have a unifying mission that everyone benefits from. It can’t be”make your numbers”. It needs to be a real purpose!
      This is one framework that can lead to a real new American Golden age of productivity.

  • @lizhoward9754
    @lizhoward9754 18 годин тому +14

    18:52 - I noticed Mooch just skipped right over the Reagan deficit spending which was almost as big as Bush Jr’s spending. Let’s face it…there has always been deficit spending but with the continuous Republican tax cuts going back to Reagan, it is no wonder our deficit is so enormous. It wasn’t Democrats who wanted the enormous tax cuts but Republicans

    • @godspeed2939
      @godspeed2939 10 годин тому

      @@lizhoward9754 Yup don’t forget you are listening to mooch republican podcast

    • @alicesais770
      @alicesais770 9 годин тому +1

      @@godspeed2939yes, sometimes I forget he’s a republican 😂

    • @lizhoward9754
      @lizhoward9754 Годину тому

      @ good point but I see Mooch now more as a pro-democracy person. But you are right in that Mooch has a tendency to cherry pick the things he wants to believe about the former Republican Party. The reality is that in my voting lifetime (1975), I have seen every single Republican President cut taxes that have helped nobody except very wealthy people while not making the appropriate spending cuts. Had Gore won the Presidency in 2000, his plans for the budget surplus was to pay off the national debt which would have been a game changer. Instead Bush gave the wealthy another tax cut which immediately returned us to deficit spending. And of course after that we spent trillions on a bogus war. Now do you see how we got to the level of income inequality we gave today?

  • @Frederick85
    @Frederick85 14 годин тому +7

    If you can only find meaning in life through work, your life has no meaning

    • @kieransmith1796
      @kieransmith1796 14 годин тому +4

      My thoughts exactly - work to live, not live to work.

  • @rocknrollanp
    @rocknrollanp 19 годин тому +28

    I respectfully totally disagree. The economic conditions and distribution of wealth is totally different. Supply-side economics moved $50T in wealth from the bottom 90% to the top from 1981 - 2021. You don’t motivate people to work when the economy doesn’t get them ahead.

  • @1_MrFantasy
    @1_MrFantasy 15 годин тому +9

    I love how 3 people have more wealth than 50% of the country and this guys telling us we are unamerican for feeling like we are bent over. We see people ripping off others on wall street and k street and do not agree with the society we were born into. Thats sort of on the people who have made our society about winners and losers and about exploitation, anything to get a bag. Its the era of the grift.

  • @Nasrallahelaladdin
    @Nasrallahelaladdin 15 годин тому +11

    Dear Anthony - you did not once talk about the working class or low-paying job that go nowhere. Not even once. Come on man - shouldn't you also talk about the other side? Shouldn't you also challenge your guests too?

  • @Ninnybroth
    @Ninnybroth 16 годин тому +14

    You need a good job if you're going to like it. It needs to pay well and align with your interests. Ask your Dunkin' cashier or your nursing home cook if their job ticks either of those boxes. David is typically privileged and out-of-touch with those of us at the bottom.

  • @1_MrFantasy
    @1_MrFantasy 15 годин тому +9

    Call it what you want, us plebs are tired of working 50 hours a week for 50k a year. Leave it to some writter to opine of how others should spend their days in a cubical or warehouse.

    • @JLJones-b2u
      @JLJones-b2u 12 годин тому

      @@1_MrFantasy 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

  • @aranyawaasii
    @aranyawaasii 17 годин тому +7

    i haven't worked in 10 years, and it's been the happiest time of my life by a significant margin. the notion that the only satisfying point of engagement in life is paid servitude is palpable nonsense. reluctantly, some kind of return to work for me is on the cards now for purely financial reasons.

  • @sharonwisinger5162
    @sharonwisinger5162 18 годин тому +8

    I miss working but was a blue collar worker and barely made it physically to age 62.

  • @Ninnybroth
    @Ninnybroth 17 годин тому +8

    David Bahnsen said he doesn't think the sexual revolution created happier people. He obviously hasn't talked to any women from yesterday or today about the difference in their sex lives, bodies, growing up, getting old, and how they get/got sexual education, information, and medical care vs. the decades BEFORE the 60's- particularly the experiences of women of the late 1800's and early 1900's (and cripe, what was it like in other centuries??) I guarantee women are much happier now sexually than they were in ye olden days. That's ONE aspect of happiness.

  • @fredcanavan3864
    @fredcanavan3864 15 годин тому +8

    So this is all pretty cool and I like it except for one thing. Big box stores like Home Depot did not create jobs. Just like stationary stores and many other businesses, every town had a store that was supporting at least one family with a good income. All those stores have closed. I don’t think you could show me that the number of employees have actually increased in the home hardware or furnishings industry. Clearly there are a lot less. Same thing with movie theaters, bakeries, stationery stores, etc. Mitt Romney used to talk about creating all those jobs with staples.It’s a lot of baloney. There are fewer jobs in that industry and those jobs pay less. If that were not the case then the big boxes would not exist.

    • @AlGrant-bh9or
      @AlGrant-bh9or 12 годин тому

      Emmensly well-thought-out response. Bravo!

  • @mm5478
    @mm5478 18 годин тому +6

    Respectfully, I’m not sure why WF Buckley is a compliment. Go watch the debate with Mr. Baldwin. Mr. Buckley was a bit of a racist.

  • @the_curmudgeon1975-bp4hc
    @the_curmudgeon1975-bp4hc 19 годин тому +24

    I am happy to see that most of the comments below align with the shitty impression this David guy is giving me, as I listen about his view over the world and generations. Tony, thanks for inviting him, it is good to see less intelligent and highly dogmatic people sometimes. If nothing else, just to remind us about the existence of righteousness entitlement. Looking forward to "The rest is politics " tomorrow.

  • @thomaskocjan
    @thomaskocjan 11 годин тому +3

    News flash... The neoliberal order is over. No more blaming poor people for being poor. The problem is the oligarchs taking all the money.

  • @cinco990
    @cinco990 17 годин тому +9

    Ask this dude for a vacation and he’ll call you a communist. 😂

    • @medp5636
      @medp5636 16 годин тому +2

      This sums it up perfectly!

  • @born_again_gamer
    @born_again_gamer 14 годин тому +6

    A rare miss for the Mooch. To your credit Anthony, you tried to "indict the boomers" but he swerved you. And that "sexual revolution" comment was....weird. I'm not a big fan of people who judge others using their faith as a moral compass, especially when he's making generalizations of an entire generation.

  • @kiturselassie813
    @kiturselassie813 19 годин тому +8

    I like your shows aantony, but on this topic I disagree ,am a gen x ,born in early 80s ,basically last of gen x , I work very hard am a blue collar ,roofer , all my age mates are very productive people , ..so I disagree

  • @jenniferx1793
    @jenniferx1793 18 годин тому +5

    The 32 hour work week is offensively wrong? Wow so many things I could say.

  • @TrentSmithJangoStudios
    @TrentSmithJangoStudios 18 годин тому +5

    People lose hope and Faith when morality falls. And that's exactly what we've seen what's Donald Trump

  • @lisabonanno3839
    @lisabonanno3839 18 годин тому +4

    The workplace, with odds stacked tall against success for entry level people, has broken Gen Z.

  • @tdgros88
    @tdgros88 19 годин тому +15

    As a millennial, I EXITED my corporate sales career, because it was destructive to my health, and relationships, misaligned with my values. I associate work with, submitting your humanity to serve profit incentives of a corporation. Now I am focused on personal growth in health, relationships, achieving my dreams and increasing my personal freedom and sovereignty. I have transitioned to more entrepreneurial pursuits to produce an income in a way that aligns with my personal values and interests. Fuck work.

  • @aenea22980
    @aenea22980 19 годин тому +15

    Oh look a bunch of rich people who dont knownwhat its like to live on minimum wage are lecturing about hiw a generation younger than them "Just doesnt want to work". Tale as old as time 🙄

  • @TisDana
    @TisDana 16 годин тому +7

    The contempt that this guy uses to talk about other generations and so of your other guests lately and their contempt is not helpful.

  • @Libwoman1963
    @Libwoman1963 16 годин тому +4

    I work in human resources and I can tell you that if you treat your employees well, they will most of the time, return the favor and then some:)

  • @mw8498
    @mw8498 20 годин тому +23

    Do American capitalists pay their employees the most they can or the least they can get away with? Will American capitalists relocate their businesses to a locale where labor is cheaper? What do American capitalists expect from their employees, "work to live" or "live to work?" Well, they pay their employees the lowest amount they can get away with, they will move their businesses when cheap labor becomes available elsewhere, and you are expected to live to work. They win, and the workers lose. Worker co-ops like Mondragon may be the best solution for American workers.

  • @WillR-Cincy
    @WillR-Cincy 18 годин тому +3

    I’m 84, starting working when I was 8 & retired (Cancer) at 70. I’m part of the SILENT GENERATION, now more than comfortably and happy to have a loving Wife, 2 Children and 1 Grandson.
    How much better could life be?
    I miss working‼️

  • @JerseyJersey100
    @JerseyJersey100 14 годин тому +6

    Since the Reagan 80s corporations kept wages stagnant while simultaneously raising prices for the products/services they sell.
    The only thing keeping people on the miserable hamster wheel of life past 2K was an addiction to consumerism. And then came the corp’s worst enemy-the pandemic.
    Covid hit and not only did it break broke our unhealthy addiction to purchases we don’t need but it forced us to learn how to be content staying home, so we experienced the joy of free time while simultaneously forcing us to not spend money.
    Add to that Gen Z’s parents were raised them to embrace free/family time because our fathers put work before family/health and later in life they were vocal about regretting working so much and told us and their grandchildren in Gen Z that we should reject the notion that a man is judged by how many hours he works.
    Reagan and cronyism perverted capitalism, Covid highlighted the wage disparity by making real estate out of reach, Covid made us sit still and learn how to appreciate free time, and Gen Z giving the finger to employers is the result.
    Dont blame Generation Z, blame greed at the top that never trickled down.
    The supply and demand of workers is out of balance, but corporations could fill the jobs overnight if they pay proper wages…but current CEOs don’t want the payroll budget destroyed on their watch so they’re all still in the laughable phase of using surrogates in corporate media to disparage Gen Z by saying they don’t want to work.
    Coincidentally, there’s an accepted fact amongst mma fans that whenever the UFC doesn’t want to pay a fighter a proper purse and he declines the fight Dana White uses the same ole tired line every time : ‘he doesn’t want to fight’….and ever single fan knows they’re still negotiating the pay.

  • @tonic1330
    @tonic1330 15 годин тому +8

    Older generation disparages younger generation, a story as old as the hills. There is a better discussion to be had on this topic, but here it's a stew of broad generalizations, anecdotes, and personally held beliefs not relevant to the discussion and/or are unfalsifiable (e.g. 'the sexual revolution doesn't seem to have made happier people'). The idea that a group of people can be categorized as a type is lazy and not conducive to finding solutions.
    So much missing context: massive wealth gap, stagnant wages, de-industrialization, property prices etc. Re the boomers being the most productive generation - here was strong economic growth post-war, job creation, a good chance to live the 'American Dream'. It was possible to get a well paying job for life, without needing qualifications or being saddled with college debt. Was this economic success because the boomer were just harder workers than subsequent generations?
    AS refers to his experience in university and people having a different 'fact-set' talking across each other. This is not a generational issue. This is a societal issue. And a very consequential one if we don't figure out how to value facts. So when DB references JD Vance's book and The Bible to support his view it's pretty hard to take seriously.

  • @kolyxix
    @kolyxix 15 годин тому +6

    This is total BS.

  • @DavidBowers-r8e
    @DavidBowers-r8e 20 годин тому +11

    If your argument is correct your generations are off by at least one. Many, if not most, millennials had lives prior to the Internet and social media. I'm in my 40's and I've not met a single person who has retired, has contemplated, or even come close to retiring.
    However, when you work in "at will" employment, it's very difficult to work as hard or be as committed to a role that can be wiped out on a company's whim.

  • @mitchellrose3620
    @mitchellrose3620 19 годин тому +4

    Meaning in life has for me become helping those young people get on track. I have failed in many efforts to escape poverty, and now at seventy one, I am resigned to it. My greatest pleasure now is in being an effectual help to others.

  • @medp5636
    @medp5636 16 годин тому +5

    Total miss on this one! So out of touch and seems to not know that the younger generations are over the neoliberal era. People aren’t just inputs and lines on a balance sheet! Stop treating them as such. It’s not being lazy. I’m 60 and I get the younger generations anger. I started over in my 40’s, and thank god I moved to Australia in 2008 and became very successful due to the economic environment. It opened my eyes to the dystopian aspects of the US. I could only listen long enough to type this.

  • @1_MrFantasy
    @1_MrFantasy 15 годин тому +5

    Tell me again guy whos going to retire to his cabin to "write" about why I should work in a cubical 50 hours a week.

  • @sharonwisinger5162
    @sharonwisinger5162 18 годин тому +4

    “Man of faith” means nothing anymore

    • @godspeed2939
      @godspeed2939 9 годин тому

      @@sharonwisinger5162 Faith?? What’s that?

  • @MartinZiegert
    @MartinZiegert 18 годин тому +7

    I don't say that often, well rather never, but this guy is an arrogant fool, who wants to tell others, what's the purpose of life.

  • @walterreed9737
    @walterreed9737 16 годин тому +3

    If you can afford to do volunteer once you retire from working a paid job. Volunteer work is work as well. It helps you and other people as a whole.

  • @Mick-w4y
    @Mick-w4y 19 годин тому +9

    Faith is another word for ignorance

  • @jrdPalacios
    @jrdPalacios 19 годин тому +7

    😂 love this clip. I can avoid this authors work altogether. Very bad, half truths, takes.

  • @Jim-xh7hi
    @Jim-xh7hi 14 годин тому +3

    Oh. Another one of these “self made asset allocators”. These types are always awkward and nauseating.

  • @crippsverse
    @crippsverse 17 годин тому +4

    If you parade the power of the billionaires and the rich and make renting or owning your own home so difficult, you take away the motivation to work. Simple. Work has become slavery without reward.

    • @godspeed2939
      @godspeed2939 10 годин тому

      @@crippsverse Exactly well Stated .😉

  • @JLJones-b2u
    @JLJones-b2u 11 годин тому

    The responses of your subscribers to this interview are very astute and heartfelt. Bravo!! 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏Listen up Anthony.

  • @WarrenSure
    @WarrenSure 16 годин тому +5

    Who is this guy making false assumptions about others? Clearly he has no clue as to what drives others and is faiir or not ... the aristocricy spent many a decade and century slouching ... Marxian and Rousseauian? SMH i wait for ONE commentator to properly address Marx seems like noine have read Das Kapital

  • @mwhite212
    @mwhite212 10 годин тому +1

    Oh, please. Not even going to watch after "32 hour work weeks are offensive." Jesus. Give me a break, man. That is an inherently unserious statement on its face. No offense, but Gen Z has it right. This is coming from a 53 year old Gen Xer. I have become completely mercenary as I age and put in 70% effort and no more because when I was young, 110% effort got me rewarded with more work and no additional pay.

  • @reddeserted13
    @reddeserted13 18 годин тому +3

    Better talk louder. It aint working.

  • @Jogie100
    @Jogie100 19 годин тому +2

    I truly enjoy open book. Thank you Anthony

  • @blakekeithley3400
    @blakekeithley3400 16 годин тому +1

    See also Niall Ferguson’s “Civilization, The West And The Rest”

  • @kurtnunn6116
    @kurtnunn6116 19 годин тому +3

    The boomers, for the most part, have the knowledge passed on by their parents who are either the silent or greatest generations. These generations knew genuine scarcity. I believe there is some generational influence passed along, but also stopped with the Boomers. This made the later generations distinct, and even somewhat foreign to us boomers in their thinking.

  • @kristinahoward3584
    @kristinahoward3584 19 годин тому +2

    Was recently listening to a discussion with an expert in retirement who pointed out that in the US a huge percentage of people 'are retired' rather than 'retire.' A LOT of retirement is foisted on the unwilling, and the under-pensioned. And a lot of work is physically and mentally stressful in ways that are harder to cope with as we get older. So Bahnsen's remarks about Baby Boomer retirement numbers may be correct, but may not reflect the intentions of those workers.

  • @daddog9252
    @daddog9252 19 годин тому +3

    I am a "type A" workaholic like the mooch........... not everybody is......... observers of Native groups since the 1700s till today report that Native subsistence groups spend most of their time socializing ! .....that IS a fact..... this guy's love of work alone is his own paradigm HIS OWN ....... just burn all the anthropology books of how people live when left alone.

  • @kernowchris
    @kernowchris 20 годин тому +13

    Sorry David, but I work a 25 hour week, money is tight but I don't want for big TVs or a Pool or a Sports Car, it's all fluff. The rest of _my_ time is spent trying to get better at playing guitar, reading books, and sometimes watching podcasts where people will preach their version of what's 'right.' I am happy not working my 'arris off thanks very much.

    • @kimoandrews5802
      @kimoandrews5802 19 годин тому

      What if everyone did the same? Enjoy your life of leisure but don't forget that it is made possible by millions of people working very hard.

    • @kernowchris
      @kernowchris 18 годин тому +3

      @@kimoandrews5802 You assume I don't work hard which is disingenuous of you.

    • @lisabonanno3839
      @lisabonanno3839 18 годин тому +1

      That’s a hell of a lot better than working to death so you can enjoy life in retirement, and dying at 67, impoverished

  • @dianec4
    @dianec4 19 годин тому +5

    What the sexual revolution brought was women rights and autonomy. I am unhappy because of my right are slowly being taken away not because of the sexual revolution.

    • @kristinahoward3584
      @kristinahoward3584 19 годин тому +1

      Yeah. That was a very weird comment made by the author, with zero evidence to support it.

  • @alonzobishop3671
    @alonzobishop3671 11 годин тому

    As a 62 year old, I no longer feel compelled to help anybody, other than family and friends… I poured my heart and soul into helping others my entire adult life- I’m done! Best of luck…

  • @mariemills-ff8qy
    @mariemills-ff8qy 19 годин тому +5

    Motivating people requires a reward of some kind. It is clear now that some people do not work hard and make a lot of money. When the majority of the population of workers feel that they have been taken advantage of, we have a situation that leads to anger. Not good.

  • @tamelo
    @tamelo 13 годин тому +2

    This guy is 42?

  • @Kalikona5446
    @Kalikona5446 16 годин тому

    Your Mom puts it all in perspective ,one can tell she speaks from the heart she put a smile on my face 🤣

  • @omarwright7942
    @omarwright7942 9 годин тому

    I appreciate the perspective on work as the thing that gives our lives meaning and fulfills our spirits. That may be the platonic ideal of work, but life's truth rarely fits the ideal.

  • @godspeed2939
    @godspeed2939 16 годин тому +2

    So how did God Create humans (The Garden story never happened.)Why is God a man? Who is Gods Help Mate Wife. ? If he-does not have a wife … then why not ? and why does he write the structured contract of marriage when he has no idea what marriage is truly when it comes to happiness and suffering. Why isn’t God a Woman? Why is God invisible?

  • @gregwhite8503
    @gregwhite8503 19 годин тому +2

    Ok Horatio Alger... Rogan is Art Bell podcasting from his Pahrump, Austin. Your work provokes thought Rogan's work is woo woo entertainment. This guest isn't thought provoking or even entertaining. He's head scratching. Really enjoy your Pod in general. Thanks

  • @zxys001
    @zxys001 15 годин тому +3

    What a disconnected individual who is $elling a book. Working is a wonderful thing (I love it) but each and everyone of us has DIFFERENT levels of what time/energy is relative to their needs for leisure time. Putting people inside some box is just messed up, enough, just go away, please.

  • @robins_rodeo
    @robins_rodeo 12 годин тому +2

    The vast majority of people do not have jobs like yours. Most jobs don’t value thinkers or creatives. They are boring meaningless jobs.

  • @SandraBeberian
    @SandraBeberian 16 годин тому +2

    These kids dont want to work! They want success without the hard part! I worked from 1966 to 2002, Ccivil Servant, secretary, outdated term. I worked 5 days a week basically 8 am to 4:30. It paid off. I retired, have a good life.
    Also, everyone young person in this country seems to want to own their own business...we cant all be bosses! And they think its easy....
    Also, when i was working, there were NO Private PHONE calls allowed. You used the pay phone on your break. This was so even after people got cell phones.

    • @CarrieV9
      @CarrieV9 15 годин тому

      Some don’t. Our 25 year old thinks he should be able to thrive in his job working 30 hours a week bagging groceries with the high school kids. He’s being influenced by all of the nonsense online.

  • @paulj8283
    @paulj8283 7 годин тому +1

    As much as I like the Mooch this was a real miss. Just coming at this from a perspective of privilege. The joy of work and drive to keep working into sixties is not real for many minimum wage working people in repetitive / labouring / dangerous / dirty jobs. And young generation getting minimum wage which has much less purchasing power than their grandparents… they’re facing a cliff that many can’t climb without reasonable access to education / skills.

  • @tlcmeans
    @tlcmeans 8 годин тому +1

    No one wants to be a Elon Musk...

  • @deborahrose5369
    @deborahrose5369 17 годин тому +1

    For profit enterprises - you bet. But for me to be enticed to work for a company they have to exhibit good working conditions for their employees including wages and benefits. I worked in a nonprofit hospital, but even then the bloat at the top made me sick to my stomach. First line patient care staff were let go to cut costs while they maintained huge wages at the top so they could "lucratively attract the best corporate leaders" (what we were told when we were up in arms). I'm retired now, but I largely explore missions of corporations before I make purchases. One sidebar which I find hilarious- hospitals are finding it hard to attract nurses now, they don't have enough staff to run a full census. AND they hire traveling nurses whose wages are super high. (way higher than the wages and benefits nurses were requesting in contract negotiations). This drives their budgets out of the water and ultimately does impact health care costs and availability (not hilarious). I did work as a widget in a corporate mentality but I needed to, needed to pay the bills. Just saying. David Bahnsen needs to get beyond the philosophical. Good starting idea. But he doesn't see the full picture. And on Elon Musk and X - when does good business savvy end and greed take over? How much does the guy need to make? I'm on X but I can't edit anything unless I purchase a package. I think that's disgusting.

  • @KelvinMatt-q4y
    @KelvinMatt-q4y 20 годин тому +37

    Amazing video, you work for 40yrs to have $1M in your retirement, meanwhile I keep getting $39k every 14days from Bitcoin trading.

    • @RyanOtsutsuki
      @RyanOtsutsuki 20 годин тому +1

      Really, what’s the secret?

    • @KelvinMatt-q4y
      @KelvinMatt-q4y 20 годин тому +5

      @@RyanOtsutsuki It was hard for me to grasp when I was an American school aged kid decades ago. Now, it's just simple since I met Amelia Naik my portfolio manager.

    • @tollib
      @tollib 20 годин тому +1

      Wow, is this the same Amelia Naik? That helps me with 24k investment “wow" such a small world

    • @lmadkins1999
      @lmadkins1999 20 годин тому +3

      I know Amelia too, I came from owing bank loans to getting knocked out of my apartment, from almost losing my marriage to all of a sudden having returns of $25,000 every two months. I’ll forever give credits to her.

    • @Ava-c6i
      @Ava-c6i 20 годин тому

      Her platform maintains a unique perspective and is very transparent with their investors. Regardless of whether or not she outperforms. I will forever stay invested!

  • @Makeshiftmustang
    @Makeshiftmustang 13 годин тому

    My dad said that a person is lucky to find work that makes them happy. That was his only big wish for us. We siblings were very fortunate to find work where we felt fulfilled.many of our friends worked hard long hours but never quite landed where they felt their bosses appreciated them and they never made it to the point where their efforts were given recognition. I hope that changes. I know that HomeDepot gives recognition to its employees. That is great leadership. Those workers feel seen.

  • @samb7418
    @samb7418 16 годин тому +2

    Already disagree with the opening statement. I'm absolutely unhappiest when I'm working to earn money. I have no problem volunteering my time with the explicit understanding that no value comes from my effort. The times that I've been unemployed have been the most relaxing and outright happiest of my life. A smile is fixed to my face when I know I'm not providing any value to existence. Each day I have to "show up" is another day I dread.

    • @kimoandrews5802
      @kimoandrews5802 12 годин тому

      I don't know if it is a good idea to write such a thing on a public forum.

  • @Lord_Nordan
    @Lord_Nordan 3 години тому

    Here is my major criticism of this philosophy from Bahnsen. First, it's very easy to say that we don't need a reduction in work hours when your job isn't actual physical labor. Too often we forget that retirement wasn't just for leisure, it was also because many men had and still have there bodies ruined from doing labor intensive jobs. Before major workers rights movements, workers would literally die on the job in front of everyone because their bodies would give out. My second criticism is that this philosophy is anti family. A major issue with the baby boomers was that fathers were largely absent from family life because they worked from dawn till dusk and when they got home they just wanted to kick of their shoes, grab a beer, and relax. Kids would be so excited that dad was home and want to engage with him, but he was exhausted from a long days work, and so many fathers were not only absent, but angry and abusive. A reduction in work hours makes sense because productivity has skyrocketed due to computers, robotics, ai, etc., so we should reward ourselves and our society in a reduction of the work week so that we can spend more time on the MOST IMPORTANT ASPECT OF LIFE, FAMILY.

  • @lesliewilliams1385
    @lesliewilliams1385 20 годин тому +6

    Hug your mom! I miss mine every single day! Keep up the great work ❤

  • @daveschmarder-1950
    @daveschmarder-1950 19 годин тому +1

    In looking at my earnings history, it is plain to see I wasn't working for the money.

  • @barbaravanerp4598
    @barbaravanerp4598 19 годин тому +3

    For years I tried to find a job that would fulfill me. That never really happened. Looking backwards I now know what I would have done. I’m now enjoying working half time but I’ve figured that out. Can now volunteer doing what I wished I’d chosen for a job.

  • @gigiv7772
    @gigiv7772 11 годин тому

    That was a really good episode. Insightful and interesting. Thank you, Anthony. Love your mom.

  • @yvonnebonal7754
    @yvonnebonal7754 18 годин тому +1

    We romanticize too much. Jack Schaefer’s character[symbol] in “Shane” introduces him as nothing remarkable and just another stray horseman [concealing his pistol in his saddle], black silk handkerchief knotted around his neck, wide brim hat that comes down in front of his hairless face (lean and hard and burned by the sun). To top it off, Shane plucks a flower from a garden [Trump]

  • @beverlymcgrath8441
    @beverlymcgrath8441 10 годин тому

    In my 40 years if experience, a lot if work places had toxic, abusive cultures that elevated bullies. I worked in some great places as well where employees were trusted and appreciated fir their efforts. In return employees has greater satisfaction and productivity.

  • @Makeshiftmustang
    @Makeshiftmustang 14 годин тому

    I know people who work very hard four days a week. They have three days off. They work 10 hours a day. It works!

  • @robertbrooks6167
    @robertbrooks6167 20 годин тому +5

    “Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times”

  • @GlobalDrifter1000
    @GlobalDrifter1000 13 годин тому

    Problem is capitalist work sucks.

  • @AndreasSvenska
    @AndreasSvenska 19 годин тому

    “Exactly accurate” does not seem like a scientific phrase.

  • @tractorpoodle
    @tractorpoodle 13 годин тому

    I am an exception. Life is an adventure. It is also dangerous, brutal, regenerative, supportive, and challenging. Retirement is death.

  • @Eric-zk2hu
    @Eric-zk2hu 20 годин тому +3

    It's also about the nature of work and the nature of jobs in the modern economy. Most people are not inspired by their work they don't love it and do it just to earn money. Men in particular do not find self esteem in most of the opportunities available. Their work does not make them feel manly. This is not primarily because of women advancing but more just the nature of jobs in modern society.

  • @grannyroberts
    @grannyroberts 8 годин тому

    The Bible verse that says "woe to them that call evil good, and good evil" is Isaiah 5:20

  • @jonathanmilo
    @jonathanmilo 13 годин тому

    People want to work, but not all work is the same. Most people I know don’t have any desire to either strategize within a high risk/maybe high reward environment, or be a cog in a repetitive, meaningless consumption machine.
    There are so many vocations we are called to that are not sustainable economically unless they dip into either of these. But let’s be real. Today it’s not just dipping, it’s all-consuming, soul poisoning.
    Work is essential, but slavery is not.

  • @drbanana-g2j
    @drbanana-g2j 12 годин тому

    I don't know if Mel Brooks ever said "no one here gets out alive". Jim Morrison did though.

  • @ltrg361
    @ltrg361 18 годин тому +1

    What do you think about women stay home to take care of the family and can’t catch up with modern technology (ie software engineer jobs change so FAST)? Thanks

  • @randykrus9562
    @randykrus9562 15 годин тому +1

    Knowing that all the baby boomers have been retiring....I was driving over a bridge that had some construction on an overhead part of the bridge. The construction looked very involved. I thought to myself, 'do we still have people who know how to fix/repair that kind of stuff?'😂😂😂 We're so phucked.....

  • @omarwright7942
    @omarwright7942 10 годин тому

    Since the Industrial Revolution, we have produced enough to feed, clothe, and house everybody on Earth. We made a tiny percentage of the population obscenely wealthy, wealthy beyond any possibility imaginable in any prior age. People are still hungry and homeless in the richest country that has ever existed. People whose work created that wealth. There is absolutely no excuse for the exploitation and pollution of everybody's home so that one-quarter of one percent of the population could monopolize the proceeds and leave the world to die because they have their private disaster bunkers loaded for bear and ready to weather any storm. Plenty of people are sick of being exploited so that tons of money can literally be printed and given to the wealthiest people who ever walked the face of the Earth because of who they know. As a result, everybody else's income loses buying power. The myth of overcoming obstacles to succeed in America is a nice way for the climbers to feel better about themselves as they devalue billions of lives, blinded by the dream of wealth beyond imagining. All the money in the world won't make us feel better if we destroy our society to get it.

  • @tlcmeans
    @tlcmeans 8 годин тому

    Because our hard work bares very little fruit anymore