Researching many, many other YT channels over the years, NO other YT channel comes even close to your knowledge and real life experience with tires. Thank you Kyle! ♥♥♥
Hey there great info! I am on my 3rd motoz gps rear I am getting about 6000 mi on my ktm 1190R get 10 out if the front ! Love them I have a new set ready to go on in the spring! Thanks for the info!! Cheers
Never considered MotoZ tires until watching your videos, & now they are the only tires on my bikes. The Desert HT had amazing road performance on my 690 on an 8 day ride in Colorado included sections of the BDR, and the million dollar highway in the rain. The Adventure & Dual Venture were my choice on my Africa Twin for the ID BDR and were perfect on road and off road situations. I only swapped out for a GPS rear for a ride to the Yukon and the Dempster Highway. They preformed great on the frozen and muddy unpaved sections I rode, and it was easy to change after a rear flat. Both sets that were mounted on the Africa Twin show very little wear after the trips, and the GPS rear did 8,851 miles from AZ, Alaska, the Dempster,and back. It looks like it could easily do another 4K. Thanks for the great videos and convincing me that although they cost more, the MotoZs are well worth it.
Funny, both times I have ridden the Million $ highway it was in the rain. Beautiful rainbows though... and a run from the popo for not going 25 mph ;) Motoz tires go the distance, that is for sure. Thank you for your support. Sounds like you had some great trips / memories on these tires!
I have the Tractionator Adventure on my GSA. Loved the traction it gave me on the WYBDR last summer but it was extremely loud on the 4 day pavement trip to get there!!! Amazing longevity for how aggressive it is!
I had the Adventure on my moto too. While the taction off pavement was great the howling on the blacktop was just too much for me. Did not replaced with same 😟
A little noise for lots of traction and longevity, I'll take it. A few more PSI in the tires fully loaded on the highway makes them much quieter. I run 40ish in those situations and they are pretty quite.
Thanks Kyle, couldn’t be happier,I purchased dual adventure and rally for my Transalp based on your views ,still going strong 4 klm later ,will buy again definitely 🍺👍🇦🇺
Running the GPS models on my KLR. Awesome for 50/50 riding. I’ve got 5k miles mixed riding on them and hardly any wear on front and not much wear in rear. Winner!
All so true 👍Good expozay my friend. Just ordered Motoz Tractionator Rall Z 130 / 80-17 Rally Adventure Rear Tube Tyre and same 90/90-21 for the front of my Himalayan 450. Being 17" options were somewhat limited. But I have to get off these factory tyres, which are OK in the dry/wet tar, but deadly in anything resembling wet grass or mud. I Normally would run 606 rear & MT21 front on my dual sport/Enduros. Cheers from downunder. 👋
I love motoz tires.. the price is competitive with others but the traction is hands down the best out all major brands.. keep up the great content Kyle
I just got my Motoz TR Adventure & Dual Venture. Can't mount them myself (no tools) and have to wait until the 19th to get my dealer to do them. Can't wait though! Your videos helped me choose!
Another great review. I rode Dual front and Adv rear on my ktm 890 r. Got 6000 miles. Great off-road, loud as %?& on road. Decided to give the new Mitas XT+ Dakar a try for next season. I like having a fresh set to start the season. We ride stuff like the NEBDR (Vermont and near the Canadian border).
@@glx5165 Nice!!! They might be more noisy the some others, but they grip like no other. The XT+ tires are great too. I have some campfire stories on the XT+....
Thanks for this Kyle. You've finally convinced me to try a Dual- Venture front to pair with my go to rear RallZ for my T7 AZ rocks/ gravel excursions. Great info here!
I started running 90/100-21s on my Dual Sports this spring in Baja, and I could not be happier or more impressed. We even experienced two days of heavy rain on the way into and out of Mike's Sky Ranch, and these front tires never failed to impress in the mud and the sand. I will be keen to see the Enduro Fatty ST on my ADV bike in time for any nasty ride in the future.
Great comparison video Kyle! Love the Motoz line and I have run the GPS tires on my Gen 2 KLR and am getting amazing mileage out of them with only 1.5 mm of wear on the front and 5.2 mm of wear on the rear after 13,600 km (8500 miles). I will be getting the Adventure rear and Dual Venture front next time for the mix of riding I do. I once heard a thing about that whole On Road/Off Road rating as a percentage of where we ride the bike. For example "I ride 80% of the time on pavement so I should get a 80/20 rated tire." I believe it was from a tire rep in a UA-cam video who said "the two numbers more accurately describe how well the tire performs compared to a 100% street tire and a 100% dirt tire". By that definition, a 80/20 tire would perform 80% as well as a full street tire on the road and 20% as well as a full dirt tire off the road. That rating seems to make more sense because now you can think about how much performance you are willing to give up in each of the two categories.
Thank you for your feedback. Yeah... every manufacturer uses the percentages differently too. Oh well... I want 100% traction on the street and on the dirt!!! Thanks for watching!
Now Kyle, you know we paid attention when you told us about the Rabaconda tire changer, so that high cost of mounting cheap tires can be avoided. Honestly though you've had me curious about these tires for a while now and once I wear out my Shinko 705s I'll probably give them a try. I love the ride of the 705 but they are showing signs of dry rot already with a lot of checking.
I have the gps on my BMW F 850 GS and love them. My rear is in the mostly off road direction and it has gone great so far. I am thinking about maybe switching to the dual venture front for a little more stability in sand but haven’t decided for sure if I want to switch the back tire to the adventure yet because the gps has done so well.
Been running dualventure fronts with adventure rears on my africa twin since they were introduced. I've tried several other combos, but for a big adv bike that goes off road regularly, they can't be beat.
You sold me on the AX41's on my AT. Love em. Took alot to get me out of the Anakee Wilds. My next setup will be the Motoz Adventure rear and an Anakee Wild up front!
The Wild / Adventure combo is very popular. I think you will like it. The AX41 is a little more stable on the road than the Wild, but the Wild is a touch more aggressive off road. I am looking forward to hearing how you like it.... I sell all of them now when you are ready.
Just started riding 3 years ago at .57. Doing my first BDR this year on my 2022 Honda cb 500 x. After watching this I think the dual sport front with the Adventure rear is the right approach. I’ll be driving like a novice on the dirt so not high speed etc. I’m in Washington but will probably do Idaho BDR in July.
You're gonna love Idaho BDR!!! It's my experience that the RallZ front is a much better tire than the DV for the hundreds of miles of gravel on that route. I've run on both, and the Rallz is VERY stable in all the types of gravel there. The Dual Venture front wants to hunt around a bit. If you're newer to gravel travel this may be nerve-racking. The Rallz front tracks much better on that route. Have fun, good luck, and take a friend with you if you can.
@ thanks for the advice. Sounds like I need to add learning how to swap out tires to my list of talents. Would like a more street friendly front on for my routine riding, but be able to swap in the off road tire for my dirt trips.
Good stuff as usual, Kyle! I tried the DV Tube Type on the T7 recently, and it performs MUCH better than the tubeless version due to the greater lug gap…could be worth mentioning to the crew.
Thank you again Kyle. You are starting to convince me to buck up for Motoz. The only thing you aren’t telling us is the sound level we have to live with on road with each of the different tires. When we spend most of our actually riding on road even though our goal is traction when we get to off road, how much noise are we willing to put up with. Thanks again.
I'm curious about how much road noise is heard through ear plugs? On any ride more than 20 min I put in the plugs to guard against hearing damage. The road noise should be attenuated and this should include tire noise. Is your experience different?
@ don’t always have mine in but even with plugs in the road noise gets wearing. I have Trailmax Raids on my GS 1250 and they howl pretty good at 120 km/hr unbearable without ear plugs, don’t even think about a com system. I am willing to give up some Offroad traction for noise. The GPS should be fairly quiet just would like it to be part of the full review.
It really depends on the bike, the load, the tire and the tire pressure. Lower pressures make these loud on the highway. Fully loaded, pressures need to be increased or they are louder. They are louder than many out there, but offer benefits the others can't touch in longevity and traction. The GPS, ADV and Rallz are decent.... the Desert HT is the LOUDEST tire i have ever run. (read prop airplane flying next to your helmet all day long...)
I had the Motoz Rallz, on front and back of my 2022 Honda CRF300L Rally and I only got about 4500km from the rear. Great traction, would recommend it, but definitely not the mileage that you are suggesting.
Yes sir! The 300L takes a much lighter softer tire. The heavy ADV tires in a 140, 150 or 170 have the mileage characteristicts that I am speaking of. 4500km from. a dirt bike tire is still pretty darn good.
I like how you whispered "Sk*nko". Before buying Motoz (Tractionator Adventure rear and Rally front), I was the falling-est rider among my friends. It was so bad that I'd have my legs sticking out through every little mud patch, while they cruised through. It was bruising to my confidence overall. My tires through all that? Shinko 804/805s. Eventually I started really looking at those tires, with their non-existent lateral grip, and researching other options. Eventually I settled on Motoz. More expensive, yes, but the mileage alone was a convincing consideration. My bruised body a close second. Bought' em, installed 'em... And holy swizzle sticks, what a difference. I started calling them my Mojos, because that's what they brought back. Absolutely no complaints, and would definitely buy again. The Rally is a little noisy on-road. But it's a motorcycle, duh
Fantastic review / feedback. The Shinko is a great straight line tire but the increased traction the Motoz provide is staggering. Of course as with many things you don't know what you don't know. A few more psi in the rear RallZ should quite it down a little bit. Happy to hear that you are having a good time on your Motoz tires.
I think just as much as the lack of general understanding of how tires can affect one's overall enjoyment on a bike.......is the understanding of air pressures. This is not a set-it-and-forget-it concept. It can be and should be adjusted within a range to produce better outcomes.
RallZ front is a great tyre. When new they squirm and track, but after 509kms they're great. Push hard on tar, keep it good on dirt. The key... Having the right air pressure is super important for the front to not scallop too fast (it will always do it, but it's less prone with the right pressure) Desert HT don't last too well on high powered bikes. The leading edges 'round off' really easy and the grip disappears soon after. On tar they're ok.
Regarding the flipping - I fitted another ABS ring to the other side my front rim on the 790 and now I just turn the whole wheel around.....well worth the price (second hand) of the extra ABS ring.
Been putting through endurance rallies and races the ADV rear / Desert HT front on my 690 Aurora and that's an amazingly versatile combo. For adventuring on my 890's, the GPS cannot be beat. Doing a solid 15 000 miles on a set with meat to spare and they are surprisingly stable even in yet sandy condition, I wasn't expecting that. I have not seen any difference in traction between the ADV and RallZ though, so save your money and go for the ADV, they last way longer. If you really need more agressive tires, than go for the Desert HT, but they melt fast, 3000 miles is the best I could take out of them.
Thank you for your feedback, very helpful. Having ridden the RallZ and Adv back to back in the same terrain, I was able to notice a size-able difference. The mileage of the ADV is very admirable though.
Well…the rear GPS tractionactor on my GS1250ADV with the right air pressure recommend it, has broken 3 different tyres from the base of the knobbly area. At the beginning I thought it was me but later found out on the internet that many people are going trough the same problem. Not for me
@ in a period of 4 years?. I cannot deny that I love the tire but if I’m gonna pay top dollar and have to use the tire halfway because I never got to the bottom of it because they were all unsafe due to the cuts on the base of the knobbly…what can I say?. Put the title on the Internet and you will find people commenting the same
Another great video. I've just bought my third set of Motoz tires using your recommendations. Doing the IDBDR I put the Adventure on. Very aggressive. I switched to the GPS for a trip to Deadhorse. Unfortunately was involved in a hit and run with less than 400 miles on that set that totaled the bike. Just bought a second set of GPS. Will I get the same mileage you speak of mounting it 50/50? TIA!
Sorry to hear about the accident! That is horrible. Yes, the GPS I prefer in the mostly Off Road position. Mileage is the same either way and the off road grip is noticeable.
@@theshadyeightyshow3355 that Xtreme Hybrid on a little bike is like magic!!! I tried to run it on my 950 and was throwing erasers at the riders behind me ;) They didn't like that so much ...
Great content as usual, thanks! 👍 Question: next year I will ride a Kove 450 Rally and do a complete tour of Iceland in one month (during the summer). What tire would you suggest for that rocky and volcanic sand terrain?
Sounds AMAZING! I would recommend the RallZ front and rear or the Dual Venture front if you want more street support. Mostly off road go the RallZ as a set.
Hi Kyle, I have a 2023 690R and I ride very little paved, I ride mostly hard and soft gravel roads and single and two track forest trails, I have been using the Motoz Enduro 6 tires in 140/80-18 and I'm super happy with the traction but they only last me maybe 4-5 days worth of riding. I have been looking at the Enduro I/T hoping that it would last a reasonable bit longer, but haven't been able to verify that, do you have any input here? Otherwise I have been looking at the Desert H/T or the Rallz but I'm a bit worried that I'll lose to much traction and only getting super long life that I don't really need? Cheers and a big thanks for your super informative videos 😎
Thanks for your inquiry! The Enduro I/T will last a little longer. I run the RallZ on my 690 Enduro R and really like it. Not as much traction as the Enduro IT but really close.
I tried a cheapo Kenda big block rear tire on my 800gs, replacing a Tractionator ADV with 3k miles. The Kenda was half the price but has lasted only 6-700 miles! I would like to try the 2track but they don't make a 17" rear. So right now for me, Motoz is the gold standard.
You statement doesn't make sense. You said that you changed out a tractionator after 3k miles and are complaining that you got twice the milage out of a Kenda that was half the cost 🤔
Motoz for the Win! The 2Track is great in the dirt but it's not my friend on the pavement. It does not like cold nor wet... and the sidewall is SO Stiff that it transfers all of the road imperfections through bike, the chassis and into my body. Not fun. Off road the 2Track is very similar in performance to the RallZ. It is quite good. Just don't like the other side effects. Thanks for watching.
I'm going to try the desert HT on my 500excf next. Looking for a little more longevity than dirtbike tyres have been giving me. Coming into summer here in Oz so my tyre bills are about to explode.
Hi Kyle, thank you for your videos, I love it, it gives me a lot of ideas. I write you from Montreal, Canada. I plan to ride the Dempster Highway next June from Montreal, on my BMW 1200 GS. It will be a 9 000 miles ride (back and forth) which include 1200 miles of hard off road. My plan is to use the Tractionator GPS at the rear but I am not sure about the front with the GPS. I read somewhere that once you paired the Dunlop TrailMax Mission FRONT tire with the GPS rear...the challenge is to be confortable on the way up and the way down, which is mostly pavement and not suffer on the difficult dirt stretch. What do you think, any suggestion...? Thank you for your help.
Thank you for your kind words. The GPS in the rear and the Dual Venture up front has been a go-to for many Alaska travelers. Both tires have gone the distance on the GS and Pan America motorcycles. The Mission will be a smoother riding front tire, but will provide less gravel road / mud performance than the Dual Venture. Both will do it, you just need to choose which one will be best for you and your ride.
I put a dual venture on the front and Tractionator on the rear of my v strom 800 de. Couldn't go over 70 without a pretty intense wobble on the highway. Checked the balance several times, suspension settings all perfect, nothing fixed it. Swapped to trailmax raids, immediately fixed the wobble. Really wish i could get the stability out of the Motoz you say you get. Edit: i also tried every tire pressure imaginable, made no difference.
I’m experiencing the same with the Dual Venture on my 23 Triumph Tiger RP. It’s gotten slightly better as I’ve got over a thousand miles on them, so the wobble doesn’t hit until around 75 mph now. Makes freeway riding an adventure.
There are several people that have said they have experienced what you have. I have had very solid experiences though on all of my machines. T7's and 790's are typically the worst with the wobble. Stiffer rear preload typically helps. I have two friends with DE's and they are not experiencing it. Odd. Glad you are happy with the Raids. Motoz rear and AX41 are an option that seems to be solid too.
I have the adventure rear and dual venture front on my 2024 800de. My issue is i don't really do much off hiway stuff.... but yeah it's super nice when I do, but I feel bad burning up these units on the street.
I have the Tractionator Adventure on my Africa Twin. They’ve lasted incredibly long and have great traction, but the lugs on the front tire wore in a strange way and they absolutely HOWL on the pavement now at 70 mph.
The howl is very interesting. I have run them on 7 different machines without the howl. Maybe my exhaust is louder than the tires? Did you have the Adventure front tire (discontinued years ago) or the new Dual Venture front tire? The DV is reversible and keep wear to a minimum. Looking forward to your response.
@@manybikes thanks for the response. Yes, it is the adventure on the front as well. It was fine for the first few thousand miles but over time, the centre lugs wore towards the rear leaving the fronts higher. I think this is what is causing the howl. A buddy with different tires had the same issue, but his were reversible so he flipped them and it solved the noise problem. It’s interesting, at 60 mph it almost disappears but anything over 70 and it’s impossible to ignore.
Suggestion for a Honda CRF 300 Rally to have DOT and 90% dirt emphasis? Stock sizes are; 80/100-21 & 120/80-18. Additionally any suggestions on running HD tubes or Tubliss systems that offer more puncture protection but still allow some pavement use?
Yes Sir! I run heavy duty tubes on everything... have for 20 years. It's the way to go in my opinion. 90/90-21 for your front or the fatty 90/100-21 and the RAllZ or Adv in the 120/90-18 in the rear. Super great combos.
Hey Kyle, I've asked you about this before. I realize you don't get a lot of rain in California, But I live in Holland were it rains on average 30-40 percent of the time, sometimes two weeks on endm especially in the fall like right now. Which means a lot of mud, but also a lot of wet tarmac. You haven't said something about the handling of the tires on wet tarmac in this video. Especially for guys like you and me who commute 90% of the riding time, this is very relevant. I'm always especially interested in cornering in the wet. I'm currently running the TKC 70 Rocks en 70 front, and they're doing great in the rain. I'm wondering if you could do a short tyre by tyre comparison how these Motoz handle in the rain, as I'm contemplating going Motoz for the next set. Most likely it will be the Adventure, but I'm not able to flip my tyres myself so I'm still looking at alternatives about the front.
Thank you for your message. I recommend you learn how to do the flip... it will maximize your riding. The TKC70 Rocks is a great tire. Much shallower tread depth than the Motoz. Both are good in the wet, the TKC70 Rocks a little better than the Motoz in my opinion. The Adventure has an optimized hybrid natural / synthetic compound produces dependable grip in all weather extremes.
@@manybikes Thanks for reacting Kyle, so you think the Motoz is a bit less good in the rain? Would there be any front tyre you could recommend to pair with the Adventure rear, other than the Dual Venture? Just looking for options😁
I just got the Rallz for the rear of my 1995 Yamaha XTZ750. Normally I have 140/90 tubeype tire but there is no size like that from Motoz. I got 130/80 as it fits my rim (not perfectly, but in a range). Unfortunately the bike is super wobbly right now and I got the shimmy effect over 100km/h. I changed the tire back and it's gone. So I guess Motoz are not for my type of bike :(
Yes, 17" tires are rare. Sorry to hear of your experience. The 130 is not as robust as the 140, 150 and 170 series tires. I bet the 150/70-17 woluld have performed better on your XTZ750. It is much more robust.
@@manybikes my XTZ750 is quite old. There is no Rallz 140-17. I considered 150 but that would not fit my rim - it's meant for 4.25 rim and XTZ750 rims are 3.00. Also I'm not 100% sure that would fit into the swingarm.
I completely get that these Motoz tires are great for grip and longevity. But, I only ride my ADV bike (I have several bikes and only so much time in my work life) about 2,000 a year on that bike. So for me to get 12,000 miles is 6 years and is that too long for these tires to be essentially sitting in my garage to include through a freezing cold winter of no riding (another reason I’m not putting on big annual miles folks). Or in my case a shorter life gummier (potentially less expensive) tire replaced every few years a better way to go?
@@manybikes I'm not sure. I truly am asking. I'm not critiquing the video. I'm wondering if their is an inexpensive tire that I can replace more often due to 'shelf life' concerns and provides great traction like the Motoz. I realize I might spend a bit more in the long run due to tire change labor charges, but i have fresh tires on every few years.
Have they addressed the highway wobble issues with the 21" tires in the Dual Venture and RallZ? I genuinely love their tires, but not being able to go 70-80 on the highway when the speed limits are 75-80 MPH in Idaho, Montana and many other states.
Motoz seems to be pioneering ADV tires in the market. I just don't see other brands holding a candle to the sort of technology, longevity, and capability quite the same way.
Did you find the Dualventure front tyre is skatie and sketchy on tarmac? I have only done 100 miles on it so far and I am not happy with it on tarmac at all.
@@nevillegreg1 Sorry to hear you are not happy with them. What are you riding and what tires did you come off of? I personally have had great experiences on the Dual Venture on several machines. For me, they have been stable and provide great traction.
Kyle, imagine you have a 1250gs and you go from the pavement of the california bay area, out to the dirt (sometimes sandy) of Nevada. Basically all pavement to get to NV, but once in NV its all dirt. What tires would you run? Runing the anakee wilds right now, and you're kind of selling me on the motoz adventure right now!
Oh, that used to be my ride to.... Fremont (where i was raised) to Carson City, NV where my grandmother lived. So much Sierra Nevada action!!! Love it!
That's my typical scenario. On my 1250GS, I've run through many sets of ADV rear/DV front. RallZ rear/DV front. And the same rears with the RallZ fronts. Note; I change my own tires. If I'm riding highway for 1,000 miles to get to my BDR (think San Diego to Idaho and beyond...) and I don't expect much rain (mud) I run the GPS rear/DV front. This combo allows for an 8,000 mile tour without tire change. And traction is excellent. If my tour includes sand and occasional mud, it's ADV rear/RallZ front (good for 4500 mile loop). If I'm doing an 8 day Baja tour it's RallZ front and back - NO QUESTION! ALL these tires perform perfectly on pavement. I've never had one "let go" in a corner and I ride them all to the edge of the tread. My tire choice is about as simple as this really, and after years of guiding I have yet to see a better tire, or a better value.
@@manybikes i love the wilds on dirt, but on pavement they are so wobbly above 85mph, and SO loud. is that motoz combo any better on street? I have about 2k miles left on my wilds, before i try my next set, which will prob be your suggestion! Will purchase from you too when the time comes. Thank you! In regards to fremont to carson, i do that a lot!! I am in the sierras a lot by Arnold, but i truely love the dirt in NV. The amount of awesome dirt roads out there always astonishes me!!
@@kellygoertzen849 Thank you Kelly! Appreciate the input. Ive ran Trailmax Missions from the bay area up to IDBDR, and have to say they did really well too. From the sierra nevadas up through sections 1-3 of the idbdr it was almost all dirt roads, and they did really well. That same set also took me down to Bisbee AZ for Sterlings adventure fest in April of this year. While they are not as good in the dirt as the wilds i am running now, it sure was nice to do 110-120 (wont say if thats mph or kmph lol) from Sadona AZ to Vegas on the pavement! Looking forward to trying the motoz combo.
I like the Motoz. I have 2500 on my Tusk 2 track tires and I thought it was very similar to the Rallz. The cost is less than half the cost of Motoz Rallz. At this point im not sure you can justify the extra cost of the Motoz.
Off Road the Motoz and the 2Track are very very similar. When it comes to mounting and dismounting... Motoz WINS! And... the rough road ride of the 2Track (from non-flexing sidewalls) I was not a fan of either. Ride the two back to back and you will see what I mean. Spend a day on one and a day on the other and the difference is really surprising. The 2Track is the least expensive best handing dirt tire for ADV for sure. But there are trade-offs.
Hey Kyle. I live in Wickenburg AZ and ride up to Prescott on 89 and then ride off road when I get there. About 100 miles of twisty pavement and 50 miles of off road each time. 2024 ktm 790 adventure. What tire would you recommend? Was also thinking AX41's?
The AX41 tires are a favorite of mine but they wear out in less than 3k miles with the last 1k subject to lots of slippage. I would recommend the RallZ rear or Adv Rear if you want more mileage ... then either the Dual Venture, AX41 or XT+ up front. All great combos.
At 14:07 you say the Desert HT "....actually gets about the same mileage as the rally", and at 15:37 you say "I get significantly more mileage out of the Rallz" than the Desert HT. So, which is it?
Just over 4k on the RallZ and just under 4k on the Desert HT. The "4" was in my mind when I was thinking "same / similar" then corrected at 15:37. Sorry for the confusion.
Like a lot of people, I am confused by the naming convention that Motoz uses. Couple questions: when you say “Rally” do they write “Rallz?” Is it possible that the tire you call Rally is the Tractionator Adventure? Based on the stock photos on the Motoz site, I think that might be the case-I am seeing that alternating center sipe on the Adventure but not the Rallz. Any help is appreciated because I am more confused than before I watched. Thanks. PS. Bonus question: do they say “Mo-taws” or “Moto-zee.”
Thanks for your message. It is pronounced MoTaz Moto + Oz ... Motoz Now... the RallZ is pronounced Rally or Rallyz. When it comes to the tires, the RallZ has alternating or off-set lugs down the center that are the same size. The Adventure has three different sized blocks all in a row that repeat themselves. Did that help?
Flipping that front every 1k makes me feel like I need to invest in a tire machine or a separate set of wheels for my PanAm 😂 going to bed picking up some Motoz in the next month or so
They are the absolute best tires on the planet! I've been trying to tell everyone but some people still want to waste money on other brands. Motoz or Nothing!!!
GPS 8k to 12k miles | Adventure 6k to 8k Miles | RallZ 3k to 6k Miles | Desert HT 3k to 4k Miles | Dual Venture 3k if not flipped and 4k to 10k if flipped.
I went through a set of TKC80s, a set of Desert H/Ts, and a set of Tractionator Adventures on a DR-Z400S. The TKC80s lasted about 4000 miles. The Desert H/Ts lasted about 5000 miles, were much better in the dirt, and were comparable on the highway. The Adventures lasted about 6000 miles and were good on dirt or highway. I've been using RallZ on my Africa Twin. In 10,000 miles I burned through two fronts. I had to replace the rear tire when it picked up a utility knife blade in the carcass. The rear tire had about 5000 miles left on it, so fronts are getting about 5000 miles and rears about 15,000. The RallZ tires - front and rear - were great in the dirt. I was hoping to try a set of Desert H/Ts on the Africa Twin. I will be very disappointed if MotoZ is no longer producing the Desert H/T front. I don't think the Desert H/Ts got the attention they deserved. I will probably not be using the Dual Venture tire, as I will not be flipping a tire in the middle of a 3000 mile adventure ride.
Has there been any changes to the motoz tires, specifically the tubless rallz rear and dual venture front, that would help them seal the bead better on my Aprillia Tuareg? That's the combo I would like to run, but it seems the front has been the hardest to find a tire that seals the bead well. I've been running the Tusk 2-Track front for a while now, but it still leaks maybe 5 psi every couple of days and seems to have weird unpredictable traction off road sometimes.
All fresh tires with this years date codes from Motoz have a revised bead and they do not leak any air. Some KTM and Aprilia rims have been known to leakdown in the past. This has been addressed and has been fixed. I have FRESH tires for you!
Think of the %age not as a proportion of how much road or dirt you're riding, but how much the tyre is a compromise between full road grip and full dirt grip. The good old Rallz with it's "70/30" split is really the pefect compromise for a combination of moderate road riding and aggressive dirt. I've probably done 80% of my mileage on the road but it's that 20% of riding on dirt where I want 70% of my grip proportion. Have nearly worn my rear and won't bother trying another brand out. Fresh Rallz here we come.
Amen! I totally agree with your view on the percentages. I also agree that the RallZ is the king. Amazing traction with acceptable mileage. Thanks for watching.
No problem! It is the Motoz Tractionator Enduro ST 90/100-21 and you can see it here: manybikes.company.site/products/MOTOZ-TRACTIONATOR-ENDURO-S-T-p649190769
Hi, another question, I read that on the Motoz sidewall the MAX PSI says 33lbs for both Front and Rear; While BMW 1200 GS recommends 36 lbs front and 42 lbs rear. What is your say on that ? Thank you
@@manybikes Thank you for this quick answer. Can you take time to answer my previous question ;)...no stress I will understand if you don't. Anyway, thanks for all your advice regarding this tire through your videos.
I had a DV on my front. I be dipped in shit before I flip a tire every 1500 miles. I like the shinko front tire. It’s better than the gps front but wears longer than the DV. Run a motor adventure rear. Think I found the perfect combination for me.
@@2loulucas the shinko front is pretty good. The DV will last 4k or more miles without a flip. I was just explaining how I was able to get over 10k from the front. That is a fear.
Motoz is the only tire brand I run. Kyle is right on with his assessment of the tire lineup. I'd recommend you run the GPS in the aggressive direction. If you are not a strong off road rider on that bike, then mount the Dual Venture on the front and the GPS rear.
I have a BmW R1200GS would like to hear a comparison Dunlap raid to Motoz Adventure . I end up riding in sand often the Motoz GPS did not work for me looking for more traction . I liked the dual venture up front .
I really like the ADV rear and the Dual Venture front for your Pan Am. The GPS is a Go-to for many... but I prefer the Adventure rear and I like a more knobby front for better off road traction.
Unfortunately the Motoz are getting very expensive now , a fantastic tyre , I have used pretty much all of them ( except the dual venture ) I 100% agree with the sinko 805/804 - I had a serious crash using one of them around 4 years ago - hit a tree head first , had brain surgery. BUT I will get tyres theses days with MAXIMUM traction, actually the old Dunlop 606 is still a fantastic tyre that actually gets ok mileage , with M21 rally cross . I actually don’t mind the IRC the Honda 300 Rally comes with , “ a lot of riders take them off new and I buy them cheap as and put on my Rally “ and not talking myself but a lot of riders on lager Enduro / ADV bike’s cannot stay with me . I fit my own tyres mostly if I get time . Regards Paul from Australia.
Man, sorry to hear of your accident. That sounds like a tough go! Good tires go a long way. Motoz are pricy... but they have not had a price increase since 2021. The 606 and MT21 are staples for sure. On little bikes they make sense but big Adv bikes... they disappear off the back! Sounds like we should take a ride, quick and spirited! WooHoo!
Pretty good. Much better than the Desert HT! The Adventure features: Optimized hybrid natural / synthetic compound produces dependable grip in all weather extremes.
The Desert HT fronts are alive and well and are all in-stock! Check them out here: manybikes.company.site/products/MOTOZ-TRACTIONATOR-DESERT-H-T-p604280743
I will put in the request. There is a 130 and a 150 and on the Himalayan the 130 is the better fit and works great on your bike. MItas does have a 140/80-17. manybikes.company.site/products/Mitas-ENDURO-TRAIL-XT-20-Road-80-Off-Road-Tires-p590057705
Hey folks, help the viewers/readers here out please and try not to refer to ANY of these tires as Tractionator. They are ALL part of the tractionator lineup. So when you say your running a tractionator, no one here has any idea which tire you're referring to. It will be less confusing for all if we can try to do this on any and all sites and forums.
I hear guys talk about how the DESERT HT does not work in the wet...Well it says DESERT right in the name. It doesn't work in Georgia clay, Florida swamp, Maine peat bogs, snow in Colorado or the forest of Oregon. They say "it has big lugs it should work"...don't try it, the lugs don't clean and the rubber is hard and does not grip wet rock in stream crossings. For some reason guys running the BDRs choose this tire, then every night around the fire they complain. For off road grip the Anakee Wild seems to be the most liked, for longer wear with decent grip the Motoz Rallz is talked about a lot by guys running big adv bikes.
Ha! Ha! Right? The Desert HT is horrible in the rain but great in wat sand ;). The RallZ is the best big bike mud tire, up there with the Anakee Wild and the Karoo 4. Thanks for your feedback, it's on point. Thanks for watching.
I personally have never seen a Motoz sidewall split that looses air. I have changed Motoz tires trail side... I would not want that job with a Tusk tire. Rubber compound is very different too. I need to do a comparison between the Adv / RallZ and the 2Track.
Well, the Desert HT is sketchy in the wet, but it's a Desert tire... the RallZ is pretty dang good in the wet. I have been often on it in the rain and in the twisties.
Thanks for watching and commenting. The RallZ and the Desert HT are very different compounds and both tires handle wet tarmac very differently too. Desert HT is everywhere and the RallZ holds its own. Not as good as the Karoo 4, but pretty darn good for a high mileage tire.
Wait, you can’t get 2,000 miles out of tkc80s? How? I easily get 3-4,000, and I’m not gentle with them. I do ride in eastern Europe though, but the difference is unbelievable 😮
The Mitas line-up will be a different video. This one just showcases the Motoz line-up, options and what each tire is most suited for. I have the Mitas line-up at home... need to be home to shoot that episode!!! Then... the list of comparison videos will follow. Stay tuned!!!
The ligher less HP bikes typically use the Tube Type versions that are several pounds lighter and more flexible than the tubeless tires. The 120, 130 and 140 tube type tires are very light and flexible. What are you riding?
Yeah ok...but Motoz doesn't offer enough size choices and not everyone rides in SoCal/Aussie surface conditions. SO BFD. Good advertisement but but very little substantive value.
What sizes are you looking for? The range is pretty broad. This video was to answer the many questions I get daily re: the differences in the Motoz tires. I think it answers those questions pretty well... Sorry to disappoint. What bike(s) are you riding?
4000miles on a rear tyre gimme a break. Or even 2000miles. I get 2000km just. And i have tried many brands. Tck80, ax41, anakee wild, karoo3, 4 and extreme, mitas e09, e10... all are done in 1500km to 2000km. I dont belive that motoz will be any different. And its more expensive here in Europe.
@@Scratti80 I say give them a shot. They use all natural rubber and the tread blocks are deeper than any other Adv tire. Read the comments on this video and you will hear from many their real world experiences. Motoz are impressive.
Researching many, many other YT channels over the years, NO other YT channel comes even close to your knowledge and real life experience with tires. Thank you Kyle! ♥♥♥
It is a labor of love... Thanks for your kind words. Lets Ride!
Details much appreciated! Dig it bigly. Thank you.
My pleasure! Thanks for watching!
Hey there great info! I am on my 3rd motoz gps rear I am getting about 6000 mi on my ktm 1190R get 10 out if the front !
Love them I have a new set ready to go on in the spring! Thanks for the info!!
Cheers
Awesome! Happy to hear they are working out for you. Thanks for watching !
Never considered MotoZ tires until watching your videos, & now they are the only tires on my bikes. The Desert HT had amazing road performance on my 690 on an 8 day ride in Colorado included sections of the BDR, and the million dollar highway in the rain.
The Adventure & Dual Venture were my choice on my Africa Twin for the ID BDR and were perfect on road and off road situations. I only swapped out for a GPS rear for a ride to the Yukon and the Dempster Highway.
They preformed great on the frozen and muddy unpaved sections I rode, and it was easy to change after a rear flat. Both sets that were mounted on the Africa Twin show very little wear after the trips, and the GPS rear did 8,851 miles from AZ, Alaska, the Dempster,and back. It looks like it could easily do another 4K. Thanks for the great videos and convincing me that although they cost more, the MotoZs are well worth it.
Funny, both times I have ridden the Million $ highway it was in the rain. Beautiful rainbows though... and a run from the popo for not going 25 mph ;)
Motoz tires go the distance, that is for sure. Thank you for your support. Sounds like you had some great trips / memories on these tires!
I have the Tractionator Adventure on my GSA. Loved the traction it gave me on the WYBDR last summer but it was extremely loud on the 4 day pavement trip to get there!!! Amazing longevity for how aggressive it is!
I had the Adventure on my moto too. While the taction off pavement was great the howling on the blacktop was just too much for me. Did not replaced with same 😟
A little noise for lots of traction and longevity, I'll take it. A few more PSI in the tires fully loaded on the highway makes them much quieter. I run 40ish in those situations and they are pretty quite.
Thanks Kyle, couldn’t be happier,I purchased dual adventure and rally for my Transalp based on your views ,still going strong 4 klm later ,will buy again definitely 🍺👍🇦🇺
Running the GPS models on my KLR. Awesome for 50/50 riding. I’ve got 5k miles mixed riding on them and hardly any wear on front and not much wear in rear. Winner!
Good stuff! I have a 1/2 worn review on a KLR. It really is a great tire for your bike. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you Kyle! Your Motoz videos are always informative, and the best on UA-cam. On my T7, the RallZ is always the answer.
@@davidmaynard1422 thanks for watching. The RallZ is hard to beat!
All so true 👍Good expozay my friend.
Just ordered Motoz Tractionator Rall Z 130 / 80-17 Rally Adventure Rear Tube Tyre and same 90/90-21 for the front of my Himalayan 450. Being 17" options were somewhat limited. But I have to get off these factory tyres, which are OK in the dry/wet tar, but deadly in anything resembling wet grass or mud.
I Normally would run 606 rear & MT21 front on my dual sport/Enduros.
Cheers from downunder. 👋
Fantastic! Thank you for providing your feedback and usage. Enjoy!
I love motoz tires.. the price is competitive with others but the traction is hands down the best out all major brands.. keep up the great content Kyle
Thanks for watching! Couldnt agree more.
I just got my Motoz TR Adventure & Dual Venture. Can't mount them myself (no tools) and have to wait until the 19th to get my dealer to do them. Can't wait though! Your videos helped me choose!
Another great review.
I rode Dual front and Adv rear on my ktm 890 r.
Got 6000 miles.
Great off-road, loud as %?& on road.
Decided to give the new Mitas XT+ Dakar a try for next season.
I like having a fresh set to start the season.
We ride stuff like the NEBDR (Vermont and near the Canadian border).
@@glx5165 Nice!!! They might be more noisy the some others, but they grip like no other. The XT+ tires are great too. I have some campfire stories on the XT+....
Thanks for this Kyle. You've finally convinced me to try a Dual- Venture front to pair with my go to rear RallZ for my T7 AZ rocks/ gravel excursions. Great info here!
Sweet. Looking forward to learning how you like them.
I started running 90/100-21s on my Dual Sports this spring in Baja, and I could not be happier or more impressed. We even experienced two days of heavy rain on the way into and out of Mike's Sky Ranch, and these front tires never failed to impress in the mud and the sand. I will be keen to see the Enduro Fatty ST on my ADV bike in time for any nasty ride in the future.
Nice!
Great comparison video Kyle! Love the Motoz line and I have run the GPS tires on my Gen 2 KLR and am getting amazing mileage out of them with only 1.5 mm of wear on the front and 5.2 mm of wear on the rear after 13,600 km (8500 miles). I will be getting the Adventure rear and Dual Venture front next time for the mix of riding I do.
I once heard a thing about that whole On Road/Off Road rating as a percentage of where we ride the bike. For example "I ride 80% of the time on pavement so I should get a 80/20 rated tire."
I believe it was from a tire rep in a UA-cam video who said "the two numbers more accurately describe how well the tire performs compared to a 100% street tire and a 100% dirt tire".
By that definition, a 80/20 tire would perform 80% as well as a full street tire on the road and 20% as well as a full dirt tire off the road. That rating seems to make more sense because now you can think about how much performance you are willing to give up in each of the two categories.
Thank you for your feedback. Yeah... every manufacturer uses the percentages differently too. Oh well... I want 100% traction on the street and on the dirt!!! Thanks for watching!
Now Kyle, you know we paid attention when you told us about the Rabaconda tire changer, so that high cost of mounting cheap tires can be avoided. Honestly though you've had me curious about these tires for a while now and once I wear out my Shinko 705s I'll probably give them a try. I love the ride of the 705 but they are showing signs of dry rot already with a lot of checking.
I have the gps on my BMW F 850 GS and love them. My rear is in the mostly off road direction and it has gone great so far. I am thinking about maybe switching to the dual venture front for a little more stability in sand but haven’t decided for sure if I want to switch the back tire to the adventure yet because the gps has done so well.
Nice! The GPS rear and DV front is a super popular combo. Works much better in the deep stuff.
Thank you for explaining I want sure which Motoz Tractionator I wanted. I now know.
Perfect. Happy to be of assistance.
Thank you Kyle, I'll be trying out the Dual Venture and tractionator on my Transalp
Sweet! Looking forward to helping you out.
@ sounds good
Love the MotoZ!
I use the Tractionator Desert H/Ts on my Dual Sport
WooHoo! Perfect tire for your Desert!!!
From a guy that isn't trying to sell tires ua-cam.com/video/Yyzn02TdtJ0/v-deo.html
Been running dualventure fronts with adventure rears on my africa twin since they were introduced. I've tried several other combos, but for a big adv bike that goes off road regularly, they can't be beat.
That is the common feeling... Thanks for watching and for taking the time to share. The AT is a fantastic machine too.
You sold me on the AX41's on my AT. Love em. Took alot to get me out of the Anakee Wilds. My next setup will be the Motoz Adventure rear and an Anakee Wild up front!
The Wild / Adventure combo is very popular. I think you will like it. The AX41 is a little more stable on the road than the Wild, but the Wild is a touch more aggressive off road. I am looking forward to hearing how you like it.... I sell all of them now when you are ready.
Just started riding 3 years ago at .57. Doing my first BDR this year on my 2022 Honda cb 500 x. After watching this I think the dual sport front with the Adventure rear is the right approach. I’ll be driving like a novice on the dirt so not high speed etc. I’m in Washington but will probably do Idaho BDR in July.
The Idaho BDR is a blast! The Adventure rear and Dual Venture front would be a great combo.
You're gonna love Idaho BDR!!! It's my experience that the RallZ front is a much better tire than the DV for the hundreds of miles of gravel on that route. I've run on both, and the Rallz is VERY stable in all the types of gravel there. The Dual Venture front wants to hunt around a bit. If you're newer to gravel travel this may be nerve-racking. The Rallz front tracks much better on that route. Have fun, good luck, and take a friend with you if you can.
@ thanks for the advice. Sounds like I need to add learning how to swap out tires to my list of talents. Would like a more street friendly front on for my routine riding, but be able to swap in the off road tire for my dirt trips.
Good stuff as usual, Kyle!
I tried the DV Tube Type on the T7 recently, and it performs MUCH better than the tubeless version due to the greater lug gap…could be worth mentioning to the crew.
Yeah, I really like the tube type on my 1190 too. So good off road! A little more wiggly on pavement, but overall a great front tire.
Thank you again Kyle. You are starting to convince me to buck up for Motoz. The only thing you aren’t telling us is the sound level we have to live with on road with each of the different tires. When we spend most of our actually riding on road even though our goal is traction when we get to off road, how much noise are we willing to put up with.
Thanks again.
I'm curious about how much road noise is heard through ear plugs? On any ride more than 20 min I put in the plugs to guard against hearing damage. The road noise should be attenuated and this should include tire noise.
Is your experience different?
@ don’t always have mine in but even with plugs in the road noise gets wearing. I have Trailmax Raids on my GS 1250 and they howl pretty good at 120 km/hr unbearable without ear plugs, don’t even think about a com system. I am willing to give up some Offroad traction for noise. The GPS should be fairly quiet just would like it to be part of the full review.
It really depends on the bike, the load, the tire and the tire pressure. Lower pressures make these loud on the highway. Fully loaded, pressures need to be increased or they are louder. They are louder than many out there, but offer benefits the others can't touch in longevity and traction. The GPS, ADV and Rallz are decent.... the Desert HT is the LOUDEST tire i have ever run. (read prop airplane flying next to your helmet all day long...)
Super good review. I m a huge fan of Motoz . I run tractionator adventure on my ktm790 adv 24... I m rally happy with
Awesome! If you want a hint more traction off-road with similar road performance, give the RallZ a shot. I really like it!
Dude… just found this channel. AWESOME!!
Welcome!
I had the Motoz Rallz, on front and back of my 2022 Honda CRF300L Rally and I only got about 4500km from the rear. Great traction, would recommend it, but definitely not the mileage that you are suggesting.
Yes sir! The 300L takes a much lighter softer tire. The heavy ADV tires in a 140, 150 or 170 have the mileage characteristicts that I am speaking of. 4500km from. a dirt bike tire is still pretty darn good.
I like how you whispered "Sk*nko". Before buying Motoz (Tractionator Adventure rear and Rally front), I was the falling-est rider among my friends. It was so bad that I'd have my legs sticking out through every little mud patch, while they cruised through. It was bruising to my confidence overall. My tires through all that? Shinko 804/805s. Eventually I started really looking at those tires, with their non-existent lateral grip, and researching other options. Eventually I settled on Motoz. More expensive, yes, but the mileage alone was a convincing consideration. My bruised body a close second. Bought' em, installed 'em... And holy swizzle sticks, what a difference. I started calling them my Mojos, because that's what they brought back. Absolutely no complaints, and would definitely buy again. The Rally is a little noisy on-road. But it's a motorcycle, duh
Fantastic review / feedback. The Shinko is a great straight line tire but the increased traction the Motoz provide is staggering. Of course as with many things you don't know what you don't know. A few more psi in the rear RallZ should quite it down a little bit. Happy to hear that you are having a good time on your Motoz tires.
I think just as much as the lack of general understanding of how tires can affect one's overall enjoyment on a bike.......is the understanding of air pressures. This is not a set-it-and-forget-it concept. It can be and should be adjusted within a range to produce better outcomes.
RallZ front is a great tyre. When new they squirm and track, but after 509kms they're great. Push hard on tar, keep it good on dirt. The key... Having the right air pressure is super important for the front to not scallop too fast (it will always do it, but it's less prone with the right pressure)
Desert HT don't last too well on high powered bikes. The leading edges 'round off' really easy and the grip disappears soon after. On tar they're ok.
Thank you for your feedback. Yes, I agree that the RallZ are hard to beat!
Great info! Thanks! I am ordering rallz rear and dual venture front for the t7
Sweet! Looking forward to helping you out !
Regarding the flipping - I fitted another ABS ring to the other side my front rim on the 790 and now I just turn the whole wheel around.....well worth the price (second hand) of the extra ABS ring.
Brilliant! Thanks for sharing.
Dude! Great review, as always.
Thanks for watching!
Been putting through endurance rallies and races the ADV rear / Desert HT front on my 690 Aurora and that's an amazingly versatile combo. For adventuring on my 890's, the GPS cannot be beat. Doing a solid 15 000 miles on a set with meat to spare and they are surprisingly stable even in yet sandy condition, I wasn't expecting that. I have not seen any difference in traction between the ADV and RallZ though, so save your money and go for the ADV, they last way longer. If you really need more agressive tires, than go for the Desert HT, but they melt fast, 3000 miles is the best I could take out of them.
Thank you for your feedback, very helpful. Having ridden the RallZ and Adv back to back in the same terrain, I was able to notice a size-able difference. The mileage of the ADV is very admirable though.
Well…the rear GPS tractionactor on my GS1250ADV with the right air pressure recommend it, has broken 3 different tyres from the base of the knobbly area. At the beginning I thought it was me but later found out on the internet that many people are going trough the same problem. Not for me
Bummer. I do know the GPS had an issue in a date code range... I wonder if your tires were in that range.
@ in a period of 4 years?. I cannot deny that I love the tire but if I’m gonna pay top dollar and have to use the tire halfway because I never got to the bottom of it because they were all unsafe due to the cuts on the base of the knobbly…what can I say?.
Put the title on the Internet and you will find people commenting the same
Another great video. I've just bought my third set of Motoz tires using your recommendations.
Doing the IDBDR I put the Adventure on. Very aggressive. I switched to the GPS for a trip to Deadhorse. Unfortunately was involved in a hit and run with less than 400 miles on that set that totaled the bike.
Just bought a second set of GPS. Will I get the same mileage you speak of mounting it 50/50?
TIA!
Sorry to hear about the accident! That is horrible. Yes, the GPS I prefer in the mostly Off Road position. Mileage is the same either way and the off road grip is noticeable.
Great information as always.
Thanks for watching!
I'm a big fan of their Xtreme Hybrid tires on my DR-Z400
@@theshadyeightyshow3355 that Xtreme Hybrid on a little bike is like magic!!! I tried to run it on my 950 and was throwing erasers at the riders behind me ;) They didn't like that so much ...
Great content as usual, thanks! 👍 Question: next year I will ride a Kove 450 Rally and do a complete tour of Iceland in one month (during the summer). What tire would you suggest for that rocky and volcanic sand terrain?
Sounds AMAZING! I would recommend the RallZ front and rear or the Dual Venture front if you want more street support. Mostly off road go the RallZ as a set.
Hi Kyle, I have a 2023 690R and I ride very little paved, I ride mostly hard and soft gravel roads and single and two track forest trails, I have been using the Motoz Enduro 6 tires in 140/80-18 and I'm super happy with the traction but they only last me maybe 4-5 days worth of riding. I have been looking at the Enduro I/T hoping that it would last a reasonable bit longer, but haven't been able to verify that, do you have any input here? Otherwise I have been looking at the Desert H/T or the Rallz but I'm a bit worried that I'll lose to much traction and only getting super long life that I don't really need? Cheers and a big thanks for your super informative videos 😎
Thanks for your inquiry! The Enduro I/T will last a little longer. I run the RallZ on my 690 Enduro R and really like it. Not as much traction as the Enduro IT but really close.
Ultimate traction, for radical action....👍
Oh yeah!
I tried a cheapo Kenda big block rear tire on my 800gs, replacing a Tractionator ADV with 3k miles. The Kenda was half the price but has lasted only 6-700 miles! I would like to try the 2track but they don't make a 17" rear. So right now for me, Motoz is the gold standard.
You statement doesn't make sense. You said that you changed out a tractionator after 3k miles and are complaining that you got twice the milage out of a Kenda that was half the cost 🤔
Motoz for the Win! The 2Track is great in the dirt but it's not my friend on the pavement. It does not like cold nor wet... and the sidewall is SO Stiff that it transfers all of the road imperfections through bike, the chassis and into my body. Not fun. Off road the 2Track is very similar in performance to the RallZ. It is quite good. Just don't like the other side effects. Thanks for watching.
@@jesses1589 You added a zero. He said 6-700. Not 6-7000
@jesses1589 k=1000. 3000 miles of hard Colorado offroad use and the tractionator was done. The Kenda was done in 600-700 miles of hard offroad use.
Sorry for the multi-reply. The reply posted but was not visible on my phone.
I'm going to try the desert HT on my 500excf next. Looking for a little more longevity than dirtbike tyres have been giving me. Coming into summer here in Oz so my tyre bills are about to explode.
The Desert HT was the first Motoz tire made that put the brand on the map... in Oz! Get it!! Have fun !
Hi Kyle, thank you for your videos, I love it, it gives me a lot of ideas. I write you from Montreal, Canada. I plan to ride the Dempster Highway next June from Montreal, on my BMW 1200 GS. It will be a 9 000 miles ride (back and forth) which include 1200 miles of hard off road. My plan is to use the Tractionator GPS at the rear but I am not sure about the front with the GPS. I read somewhere that once you paired the Dunlop TrailMax Mission FRONT tire with the GPS rear...the challenge is to be confortable on the way up and the way down, which is mostly pavement and not suffer on the difficult dirt stretch. What do you think, any suggestion...? Thank you for your help.
Thank you for your kind words. The GPS in the rear and the Dual Venture up front has been a go-to for many Alaska travelers. Both tires have gone the distance on the GS and Pan America motorcycles. The Mission will be a smoother riding front tire, but will provide less gravel road / mud performance than the Dual Venture. Both will do it, you just need to choose which one will be best for you and your ride.
@@manybikes Thank you very much for your answer, i will take a look at this Dual Venture tire. Take care.
@ awesome.
I have the Tractionator GPS on my 2022 Africa Twin. It has 6,000 miles on the rear tire and it looks like new.
They last a really long time! Great value for performance.
I put a dual venture on the front and Tractionator on the rear of my v strom 800 de. Couldn't go over 70 without a pretty intense wobble on the highway. Checked the balance several times, suspension settings all perfect, nothing fixed it. Swapped to trailmax raids, immediately fixed the wobble. Really wish i could get the stability out of the Motoz you say you get.
Edit: i also tried every tire pressure imaginable, made no difference.
I’m experiencing the same with the Dual Venture on my 23 Triumph Tiger RP. It’s gotten slightly better as I’ve got over a thousand miles on them, so the wobble doesn’t hit until around 75 mph now. Makes freeway riding an adventure.
Having the same issue on my Tuareg, cant get past 130km/h without having terrible wobble
There are several people that have said they have experienced what you have. I have had very solid experiences though on all of my machines. T7's and 790's are typically the worst with the wobble. Stiffer rear preload typically helps. I have two friends with DE's and they are not experiencing it. Odd. Glad you are happy with the Raids. Motoz rear and AX41 are an option that seems to be solid too.
I have the adventure rear and dual venture front on my 2024 800de. My issue is i don't really do much off hiway stuff.... but yeah it's super nice when I do, but I feel bad burning up these units on the street.
Best to have the traction when you need it vs... wishing you had it when struggling off road!
Motoz is king for mileage...although many riders complain that they make the most noise especially on tarmac compared to other brands
A little noise for maximum traction. I'll take that tradeoff!
I have 18,300 mi on my Dunlop Trailmax Mission tires and probably another 1,000 or so. About same 60/40 as Motoz Tractionator GPS.
Holy Cow that is a ton of mileage! Got your money's worth out of those!
I have the Tractionator Adventure on my Africa Twin. They’ve lasted incredibly long and have great traction, but the lugs on the front tire wore in a strange way and they absolutely HOWL on the pavement now at 70 mph.
The howl is very interesting. I have run them on 7 different machines without the howl. Maybe my exhaust is louder than the tires? Did you have the Adventure front tire (discontinued years ago) or the new Dual Venture front tire? The DV is reversible and keep wear to a minimum. Looking forward to your response.
@@manybikes thanks for the response. Yes, it is the adventure on the front as well. It was fine for the first few thousand miles but over time, the centre lugs wore towards the rear leaving the fronts higher. I think this is what is causing the howl. A buddy with different tires had the same issue, but his were reversible so he flipped them and it solved the noise problem.
It’s interesting, at 60 mph it almost disappears but anything over 70 and it’s impossible to ignore.
@@deanmalkewich2366 Yes, that was the reason it was replaced with the Dual Venture. It is a more even wearing tire.
Suggestion for a Honda CRF 300 Rally to have DOT and 90% dirt emphasis? Stock sizes are; 80/100-21 & 120/80-18. Additionally any suggestions on running HD tubes or Tubliss systems that offer more puncture protection but still allow some pavement use?
Yes Sir! I run heavy duty tubes on everything... have for 20 years. It's the way to go in my opinion. 90/90-21 for your front or the fatty 90/100-21 and the RAllZ or Adv in the 120/90-18 in the rear. Super great combos.
Hey Kyle, I've asked you about this before. I realize you don't get a lot of rain in California, But I live in Holland were it rains on average 30-40 percent of the time, sometimes two weeks on endm especially in the fall like right now.
Which means a lot of mud, but also a lot of wet tarmac.
You haven't said something about the handling of the tires on wet tarmac in this video. Especially for guys like you and me who commute 90% of the riding time, this is very relevant.
I'm always especially interested in cornering in the wet. I'm currently running the TKC 70 Rocks en 70 front, and they're doing great in the rain.
I'm wondering if you could do a short tyre by tyre comparison how these Motoz handle in the rain, as I'm contemplating going Motoz for the next set.
Most likely it will be the Adventure, but I'm not able to flip my tyres myself so I'm still looking at alternatives about the front.
Thank you for your message. I recommend you learn how to do the flip... it will maximize your riding. The TKC70 Rocks is a great tire. Much shallower tread depth than the Motoz. Both are good in the wet, the TKC70 Rocks a little better than the Motoz in my opinion. The Adventure has an optimized hybrid natural / synthetic compound produces dependable grip in all weather extremes.
@@manybikes Thanks for reacting Kyle, so you think the Motoz is a bit less good in the rain? Would there be any front tyre you could recommend to pair with the Adventure rear, other than the Dual Venture? Just looking for options😁
@@thomasdt1991 I really like the XT+ front and the AX41 is a solid tire too.
@@manybikes Thanks ma dude!
I just got the Rallz for the rear of my 1995 Yamaha XTZ750. Normally I have 140/90 tubeype tire but there is no size like that from Motoz. I got 130/80 as it fits my rim (not perfectly, but in a range). Unfortunately the bike is super wobbly right now and I got the shimmy effect over 100km/h. I changed the tire back and it's gone. So I guess Motoz are not for my type of bike :(
Yes, 17" tires are rare. Sorry to hear of your experience. The 130 is not as robust as the 140, 150 and 170 series tires. I bet the 150/70-17 woluld have performed better on your XTZ750. It is much more robust.
@@manybikes my XTZ750 is quite old. There is no Rallz 140-17. I considered 150 but that would not fit my rim - it's meant for 4.25 rim and XTZ750 rims are 3.00. Also I'm not 100% sure that would fit into the swingarm.
I completely get that these Motoz tires are great for grip and longevity. But, I only ride my ADV bike (I have several bikes and only so much time in my work life) about 2,000 a year on that bike. So for me to get 12,000 miles is 6 years and is that too long for these tires to be essentially sitting in my garage to include through a freezing cold winter of no riding (another reason I’m not putting on big annual miles folks). Or in my case a shorter life gummier (potentially less expensive) tire replaced every few years a better way to go?
Different strokes for different folks. What are your tires of preference?
@@manybikes I'm not sure. I truly am asking. I'm not critiquing the video. I'm wondering if their is an inexpensive tire that I can replace more often due to 'shelf life' concerns and provides great traction like the Motoz. I realize I might spend a bit more in the long run due to tire change labor charges, but i have fresh tires on every few years.
Have they addressed the highway wobble issues with the 21" tires in the Dual Venture and RallZ? I genuinely love their tires, but not being able to go 70-80 on the highway when the speed limits are 75-80 MPH in Idaho, Montana and many other states.
@@2ShoesPhoto the RallZ no,
But the Dual Venture is rock solid. I've run it on on 7 machines and travel triple digits often without issue.
Me to! (T7)
Dual front and rally rear, But going for the Adventure rear NeXT year!
Motoz seems to be pioneering ADV tires in the market. I just don't see other brands holding a candle to the sort of technology, longevity, and capability quite the same way.
For sure! Others are trying but not coming close as of yet.
Did you find the Dualventure front tyre is skatie and sketchy on tarmac? I have only done 100 miles on it so far and I am not happy with it on tarmac at all.
@@nevillegreg1 Sorry to hear you are not happy with them. What are you riding and what tires did you come off of? I personally have had great experiences on the Dual Venture on several machines. For me, they have been stable and provide great traction.
Question of the day do a venture front versus AX41?
The AX41 has more side bite and has better road performance for some people. It is a very popular Motoz alternative.
Kyle, imagine you have a 1250gs and you go from the pavement of the california bay area, out to the dirt (sometimes sandy) of Nevada. Basically all pavement to get to NV, but once in NV its all dirt. What tires would you run? Runing the anakee wilds right now, and you're kind of selling me on the motoz adventure right now!
Yup. RallZ in the rear and Dual Venture up front. Amazing combo. The Anakee Wilds are great but the RallZ rear is a level up.
Oh, that used to be my ride to.... Fremont (where i was raised) to Carson City, NV where my grandmother lived. So much Sierra Nevada action!!! Love it!
That's my typical scenario. On my 1250GS, I've run through many sets of ADV rear/DV front. RallZ rear/DV front. And the same rears with the RallZ fronts. Note; I change my own tires. If I'm riding highway for 1,000 miles to get to my BDR (think San Diego to Idaho and beyond...) and I don't expect much rain (mud) I run the GPS rear/DV front. This combo allows for an 8,000 mile tour without tire change. And traction is excellent. If my tour includes sand and occasional mud, it's ADV rear/RallZ front (good for 4500 mile loop). If I'm doing an 8 day Baja tour it's RallZ front and back - NO QUESTION! ALL these tires perform perfectly on pavement. I've never had one "let go" in a corner and I ride them all to the edge of the tread. My tire choice is about as simple as this really, and after years of guiding I have yet to see a better tire, or a better value.
@@manybikes i love the wilds on dirt, but on pavement they are so wobbly above 85mph, and SO loud. is that motoz combo any better on street? I have about 2k miles left on my wilds, before i try my next set, which will prob be your suggestion! Will purchase from you too when the time comes. Thank you! In regards to fremont to carson, i do that a lot!! I am in the sierras a lot by Arnold, but i truely love the dirt in NV. The amount of awesome dirt roads out there always astonishes me!!
@@kellygoertzen849 Thank you Kelly! Appreciate the input. Ive ran Trailmax Missions from the bay area up to IDBDR, and have to say they did really well too. From the sierra nevadas up through sections 1-3 of the idbdr it was almost all dirt roads, and they did really well. That same set also took me down to Bisbee AZ for Sterlings adventure fest in April of this year. While they are not as good in the dirt as the wilds i am running now, it sure was nice to do 110-120 (wont say if thats mph or kmph lol) from Sadona AZ to Vegas on the pavement! Looking forward to trying the motoz combo.
I have a CRF450RL built up for the TAT and BDR’s. I am in the mid-Atlantic. What Motoz tires should I fit for the TAT?
I would recommend the RallZ or the Adventure rear in the 120/90-18 and the tube type Dual Venture for the front. Great tires.
Great review👌
Thanks! 👍
What's a good combo for mostly road and some off road with a dual venture front?
@@billysantiago1251 the Motoz Adventure is a fan favorite for sure.
I like the Motoz. I have 2500 on my Tusk 2 track tires and I thought it was very similar to the Rallz. The cost is less than half the cost of Motoz Rallz. At this point im not sure you can justify the extra cost of the Motoz.
Off Road the Motoz and the 2Track are very very similar. When it comes to mounting and dismounting... Motoz WINS! And... the rough road ride of the 2Track (from non-flexing sidewalls) I was not a fan of either. Ride the two back to back and you will see what I mean. Spend a day on one and a day on the other and the difference is really surprising. The 2Track is the least expensive best handing dirt tire for ADV for sure. But there are trade-offs.
Hey Kyle. I live in Wickenburg AZ and ride up to Prescott on 89 and then ride off road when I get there. About 100 miles of twisty pavement and 50 miles of off road each time. 2024 ktm 790 adventure. What tire would you recommend? Was also thinking AX41's?
The AX41 tires are a favorite of mine but they wear out in less than 3k miles with the last 1k subject to lots of slippage. I would recommend the RallZ rear or Adv Rear if you want more mileage ... then either the Dual Venture, AX41 or XT+ up front. All great combos.
Thanks Kyle!
At 14:07 you say the Desert HT "....actually gets about the same mileage as the rally", and at 15:37 you say "I get significantly more mileage out of the Rallz" than the Desert HT. So, which is it?
Just over 4k on the RallZ and just under 4k on the Desert HT. The "4" was in my mind when I was thinking "same / similar" then corrected at 15:37. Sorry for the confusion.
@@manybikes Thanks, as always, for having the best info on tires
Are they bringing back to states Tractionator Adventure Original front? If not I'm not interested. I'll keep getting them from Canada.
Nope... No ADV fronts in the USA
Like a lot of people, I am confused by the naming convention that Motoz uses. Couple questions: when you say “Rally” do they write “Rallz?” Is it possible that the tire you call Rally is the Tractionator Adventure? Based on the stock photos on the Motoz site, I think that might be the case-I am seeing that alternating center sipe on the Adventure but not the Rallz. Any help is appreciated because I am more confused than before I watched. Thanks.
PS. Bonus question: do they say “Mo-taws” or “Moto-zee.”
Thanks for your message. It is pronounced MoTaz Moto + Oz ... Motoz Now... the RallZ is pronounced Rally or Rallyz. When it comes to the tires, the RallZ has alternating or off-set lugs down the center that are the same size. The Adventure has three different sized blocks all in a row that repeat themselves. Did that help?
Flipping that front every 1k makes me feel like I need to invest in a tire machine or a separate set of wheels for my PanAm 😂 going to bed picking up some Motoz in the next month or so
Closer to 2k... but I hear you. A Rabaconda makes it pretty easy. When you are ready, I am here for you. www.Manybikes.biz
They are the absolute best tires on the planet! I've been trying to tell everyone but some people still want to waste money on other brands. Motoz or Nothing!!!
Nicely said Greg... Nicely said. In the words of the @thebeardedgrump "Motoz or Nothin'!"
Please, can you list expected mileage of each model? 😃
GPS 8k to 12k miles | Adventure 6k to 8k Miles | RallZ 3k to 6k Miles | Desert HT 3k to 4k Miles | Dual Venture 3k if not flipped and 4k to 10k if flipped.
@@manybikes Kyle goes the extra mile, as usual! Thank you sir! 🤙
@@swedbear4035 My pleasure!
I went through a set of TKC80s, a set of Desert H/Ts, and a set of Tractionator Adventures on a DR-Z400S. The TKC80s lasted about 4000 miles. The Desert H/Ts lasted about 5000 miles, were much better in the dirt, and were comparable on the highway. The Adventures lasted about 6000 miles and were good on dirt or highway.
I've been using RallZ on my Africa Twin. In 10,000 miles I burned through two fronts. I had to replace the rear tire when it picked up a utility knife blade in the carcass. The rear tire had about 5000 miles left on it, so fronts are getting about 5000 miles and rears about 15,000. The RallZ tires - front and rear - were great in the dirt. I was hoping to try a set of Desert H/Ts on the Africa Twin. I will be very disappointed if MotoZ is no longer producing the Desert H/T front. I don't think the Desert H/Ts got the attention they deserved.
I will probably not be using the Dual Venture tire, as I will not be flipping a tire in the middle of a 3000 mile adventure ride.
Very valid points. The Desert HT front is still being made. The Motoz line-up is pretty dang robust! Love it!
Has there been any changes to the motoz tires, specifically the tubless rallz rear and dual venture front, that would help them seal the bead better on my Aprillia Tuareg? That's the combo I would like to run, but it seems the front has been the hardest to find a tire that seals the bead well. I've been running the Tusk 2-Track front for a while now, but it still leaks maybe 5 psi every couple of days and seems to have weird unpredictable traction off road sometimes.
All fresh tires with this years date codes from Motoz have a revised bead and they do not leak any air. Some KTM and Aprilia rims have been known to leakdown in the past. This has been addressed and has been fixed. I have FRESH tires for you!
@@manybikes excellent news! And thanks for the quick reply!
@@chooseadventure3756 My pleasure!
Think of the %age not as a proportion of how much road or dirt you're riding, but how much the tyre is a compromise between full road grip and full dirt grip. The good old Rallz with it's "70/30" split is really the pefect compromise for a combination of moderate road riding and aggressive dirt. I've probably done 80% of my mileage on the road but it's that 20% of riding on dirt where I want 70% of my grip proportion. Have nearly worn my rear and won't bother trying another brand out. Fresh Rallz here we come.
What bike and which front tire?
Amen! I totally agree with your view on the percentages. I also agree that the RallZ is the king. Amazing traction with acceptable mileage. Thanks for watching.
Is the Tractionator GPS good for a 385lb ADV bike (G310GS)?
Yes, it will last forever!
Kyle what’s the full name of the front ST fatty you’re reviewing at 16:30?
No problem! It is the Motoz Tractionator Enduro ST 90/100-21 and you can see it here: manybikes.company.site/products/MOTOZ-TRACTIONATOR-ENDURO-S-T-p649190769
Hi, another question, I read that on the Motoz sidewall the MAX PSI says 33lbs for both Front and Rear; While BMW 1200 GS recommends 36 lbs front and 42 lbs rear. What is your say on that ? Thank you
@@philippeboucaut8712 always go with the bike manufacturer specs. The sidewall rating was for specific load / speed ratings and are not bike specific
@@manybikes Thank you for this quick answer. Can you take time to answer my previous question ;)...no stress I will understand if you don't.
Anyway, thanks for all your advice regarding this tire through your videos.
Ah... what was your previous question? I don't see anything unanswered. If you post a new one... it will go to the top.
@@manybikes That's OK Kyle, you took time to reply; thank again for your time ...and your videos!
@@philippeboucaut8712 my pleasure! I really don't see a previous question… What was it now? I'm really really curious.
I think I got at least 3000 miles out of the Desert HTs. Great tires.
Great to hear!
I had a DV on my front. I be dipped in shit before I flip a tire every 1500 miles. I like the shinko front tire. It’s better than the gps front but wears longer than the DV. Run a motor adventure rear. Think I found the perfect combination for me.
@@2loulucas the shinko front is pretty good. The DV will last 4k or more miles without a flip. I was just explaining how I was able to get over 10k from the front. That is a fear.
I have a pan america. What is the best 50 50 tire. I will also be riding on hwy to get to some fire roads etc.
Motoz is the only tire brand I run. Kyle is right on with his assessment of the tire lineup. I'd recommend you run the GPS in the aggressive direction. If you are not a strong off road rider on that bike, then mount the Dual Venture on the front and the GPS rear.
I have a BmW R1200GS would like to hear a comparison Dunlap raid to Motoz Adventure . I end up riding in sand often the Motoz GPS did not work for me looking for more traction . I liked the dual venture up front .
I really like the ADV rear and the Dual Venture front for your Pan Am. The GPS is a Go-to for many... but I prefer the Adventure rear and I like a more knobby front for better off road traction.
The Adventure has deeper lugs which allow it to out perform the raid. The raid is smoother on pavement, but not as good off road.
Adventure front and rear will be great!
What’s the wet weather grip like please
The RallZ and Adventure are pretty good. The Desert HT, not so much.
Kyle you are going to cause Greg to gave heart failure showing this amny brand new shiny Motoz tires in one video! 😳 - Frank
Ha! Ha! Ha!
I have 2 shiny new Tractionator Adventures waiting for me to mount them up
@@TheBeardedGrump I do as well, purchased from Kyle! - Frank
@OneOldManRiding awesome. You should have told him I sent you 😉
@@manybikesi am in central ca and there are no dealers near me bummer
Unfortunately the Motoz are getting very expensive now , a fantastic tyre , I have used pretty much all of them ( except the dual venture ) I 100% agree with the sinko 805/804 - I had a serious crash using one of them around 4 years ago - hit a tree head first , had brain surgery. BUT I will get tyres theses days with MAXIMUM traction, actually the old Dunlop 606 is still a fantastic tyre that actually gets ok mileage , with M21 rally cross . I actually don’t mind the IRC the Honda 300 Rally comes with , “ a lot of riders take them off new and I buy them cheap as and put on my Rally “ and not talking myself but a lot of riders on lager Enduro / ADV bike’s cannot stay with me . I fit my own tyres mostly if I get time .
Regards
Paul from Australia.
Man, sorry to hear of your accident. That sounds like a tough go! Good tires go a long way. Motoz are pricy... but they have not had a price increase since 2021. The 606 and MT21 are staples for sure. On little bikes they make sense but big Adv bikes... they disappear off the back! Sounds like we should take a ride, quick and spirited! WooHoo!
How does the Adventure handle wet roads (🌧️)?
Pretty good. Much better than the Desert HT! The Adventure features: Optimized hybrid natural / synthetic compound produces dependable grip in all weather extremes.
On my Kove 450 Rally I still have the OEM "CST EX01". Ok for me. Does the RallZ have a similar profile or should I go with the Adventure ?
@@clemenswyss8 I would suggest the RallZ
Tires are ok but I get close to but less than 2kmiles on those things😂. Horrible in the mud and wet stuff but still like them on the 890R in the gnar
Well, we talked about 6 different tires. Which did you not like?
What happened to the desert HT front
The Desert HT fronts are alive and well and are all in-stock! Check them out here: manybikes.company.site/products/MOTOZ-TRACTIONATOR-DESERT-H-T-p604280743
Any chance you can get motoz to make a 140/80/17 for my Himalayan 😂😂
I will put in the request. There is a 130 and a 150 and on the Himalayan the 130 is the better fit and works great on your bike. MItas does have a 140/80-17. manybikes.company.site/products/Mitas-ENDURO-TRAIL-XT-20-Road-80-Off-Road-Tires-p590057705
Hey folks, help the viewers/readers here out please and try not to refer to ANY of these tires as Tractionator. They are ALL part of the tractionator lineup. So when you say your running a tractionator, no one here has any idea which tire you're referring to. It will be less confusing for all if we can try to do this on any and all sites and forums.
Yes Sir! 5 Different Tractionator tires... GPS, Adventure, RallZ, Desert HT and Dual Venture.
I hear guys talk about how the DESERT HT does not work in the wet...Well it says DESERT right in the name. It doesn't work in Georgia clay, Florida swamp, Maine peat bogs, snow in Colorado or the forest of Oregon. They say "it has big lugs it should work"...don't try it, the lugs don't clean and the rubber is hard and does not grip wet rock in stream crossings. For some reason guys running the BDRs choose this tire, then every night around the fire they complain. For off road grip the Anakee Wild seems to be the most liked, for longer wear with decent grip the Motoz Rallz is talked about a lot by guys running big adv bikes.
Ha! Ha! Right? The Desert HT is horrible in the rain but great in wat sand ;). The RallZ is the best big bike mud tire, up there with the Anakee Wild and the Karoo 4. Thanks for your feedback, it's on point. Thanks for watching.
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Tusk Dsport is a four ply, Motoz is three ply. I ride sharp rocks.
I personally have never seen a Motoz sidewall split that looses air. I have changed Motoz tires trail side... I would not want that job with a Tusk tire. Rubber compound is very different too. I need to do a comparison between the Adv / RallZ and the 2Track.
Lets talk about how dangerous these tyres are on wet rocks and blacktop?? 😅
Well, the Desert HT is sketchy in the wet, but it's a Desert tire... the RallZ is pretty dang good in the wet. I have been often on it in the rain and in the twisties.
Motoz adv rallz and desert can spin up on tar with ease... hard rubber content is a mistake for performance- but good for wear, like a forklift tyre
Thanks for watching and commenting. The RallZ and the Desert HT are very different compounds and both tires handle wet tarmac very differently too. Desert HT is everywhere and the RallZ holds its own. Not as good as the Karoo 4, but pretty darn good for a high mileage tire.
Wait, you can’t get 2,000 miles out of tkc80s? How? I easily get 3-4,000, and I’m not gentle with them. I do ride in eastern Europe though, but the difference is unbelievable 😮
Yes, that is correct... on the big bikes. Little bikes I can get 5k but the big bikes destroy them.
Motoz? What about Mitas?
The Mitas line-up will be a different video. This one just showcases the Motoz line-up, options and what each tire is most suited for. I have the Mitas line-up at home... need to be home to shoot that episode!!! Then... the list of comparison videos will follow. Stay tuned!!!
@@manybikes I hope that they are Radials
I just wish they weren’t so heavy for the lighter less horse power bikes
The ligher less HP bikes typically use the Tube Type versions that are several pounds lighter and more flexible than the tubeless tires. The 120, 130 and 140 tube type tires are very light and flexible. What are you riding?
@ Rally Raid CB 500X with wire tubeless conversion
Currently AX41Adventure buyer
we want mileage like dunlop mission's , and tuff as nails carcass.
and we are poor so they have to be $200 or less.
Sounds like you are a prime candidate for the Tusk 2Track tire. It checks all of those boxes and is just as difficult to mount ;)
Won't run anything else , tires grip like a mountain goat .
YeHaw!!! It is true!
100%!
Yeah ok...but Motoz doesn't offer enough size choices and not everyone rides in SoCal/Aussie surface conditions. SO BFD. Good advertisement but but very little substantive value.
What sizes are you looking for? The range is pretty broad. This video was to answer the many questions I get daily re: the differences in the Motoz tires. I think it answers those questions pretty well... Sorry to disappoint. What bike(s) are you riding?
4000miles on a rear tyre gimme a break. Or even 2000miles. I get 2000km just. And i have tried many brands. Tck80, ax41, anakee wild, karoo3, 4 and extreme, mitas e09, e10... all are done in 1500km to 2000km. I dont belive that motoz will be any different. And its more expensive here in Europe.
@@Scratti80 I say give
them a shot. They use all natural rubber and the tread blocks are deeper than any other Adv tire. Read the comments on this video and you will hear from many their real world experiences. Motoz are impressive.