Excellent analysis of the Any% category of Banjo-Tooie and Hagg's recent incredible World Record. I think we'll see this time go down very soon as this route has the potential to save over 50 seconds over the last WR route. Shoutout to the Banjo community for caring about this old bear and bird game :)
Many communities have dedicated glitch hunters who prefer to find strats and stuff that might work, and leave the actual use of those strats to the actual speedrunners
I really like the "this trick took me x tries to do" parts, shows how hard/easy some speedrunner tricks are for people who aren't familiar with those tricks Edit: also the tutorial parts for some of those tricks, and the insights such as showing the geometry of the game at work behind the scenes, whole video is really good, keep up the good work
This game is a underrated gem i feel its the same with legend of zelda majoras mask . at first everyone was like ocarina of time is the best and same goes with banjo kazooie . but when i was a kid i got gifted majoras mask and later on banjo tooie i loved those games , anyway i went to play the first titles then because everyone is talking about them tbh i had more fun in banjo tooie and zelda majoras mask and was underwhelmed by ocarina of time and banjo kazooie.
Bro tried to speedrun his commentary too 😮💨 I like that you don’t talk at a snails pace but man, that speed is really exhausting! Maybe slow it don’t a bit for the next one. Great video regardless!
Appreciate the feedback! I’ve been called out for speaking too slow in past video so I guess I tried to compensate for that lol. Will definitely work on pace for the next one
This is a very valid arguement which is why there is a No DCW category that completes the game without that glitch. If this glitch didn't save that much time it would most likely be banned but since it saves over 2 hours in the Any% category and it uses data you can't delete manually, its allowed.
The thing is, if the game cart has ever played any of the bosses, the mini game menu will permanently have the boss. So essentially almost every copy of the game is a completed file. The only way to modify the boss menu is using gameshark cheats
@@Hagg_64 Alternatively, you would have to use one of those cart-reader/writer things that are not that easy to get your hands on to begin with to write a blank save file from an emulator launching the same game for the first time. That's a whole lot of money and work just to clear the save data when the runner could just decide not to run that category to begin with.
@@Hagg_64 oh, so, i think thats kinda like dk 64 then? I think? Im not super familiar but in speedrun videos i remember something like that being brought up as to why rta runners use a trick
Given the respectful nature of the subscription request, you can add me to your list xD! I STILL wish there was a proper Banjo Kazooie 3 :(. Maybe one day xD
Good video, but I can't help but point out the audio spikes all throughout inbetween many of the transitions in your commentary script which did get rather distracting.
It is a fun video, but the static sound made when showing another creator isn't the best, sounds like my speakers or headset are dying and that isn't a very pleasant experience, I would rather silence or a less abrasive sound effect if this format is going to be done again.
Hmm weird I didn’t hear any static sound when I played back the video, and I didn’t use any audio from the actual speedrun. Either way appreciate the feedback!
There is never enough Banjo content imo and especially on the speedruns. I had to watch (listen) at 0.75 speed to keep up with the sheer amount of information but an excellent video nonetheless.
One question. Why is the Saucer of Peril cutscene specifically used for DCW? The video doesn't seem to explain why this can't be done as early as the opening cutscene.
Yeah admittedly the pace was a bit fast with this one, but if you didn’t know that there’s two of us that run Press A then that could also be why it sounds off lol
Has anyone tried speedrunning the game after entering "CHEATOLAICEPSYGGIWYGGIJ" (Jiggy Wiggy Special, backwards) to unlock all levels? You wouldn't have to do any of the clipping tricks on the stages.
Look up Cheato% which is basically Any% with cheats. This used to be the fastest way of beating the game until this new route that Hagg does came along. You also don't have to spell the cheat backwards, its one of the secret ones the game doesn't tell you about.
Nice to know that everyone struggles with speedrun tricks at the start. I attempted early bombs in Metroid Dread (eventually managed to get it) and even something that small was really hard to do. I can (typically) do the steps, it's putting them together perfectly in one complete run that hitches me up. The Speed Runners put this nonsense down to a science, and so do the videos explaining how to do the tricks, but actually DOING them, is harder than it looks. Like a LOT harder.
5:20 Or to damage boost Or to manipulate the AI Or to set up a glitch Or because it does something weird to the game as a whole that doesn't fall into the above
What study which study are you quoting there buddy that says asking people to subscribe helps people remember? When you eat at a restaurant do you pay before or after you ate? When you enter a store do you go right to the till and hand the cashier money before looking around the store?
5:23 not necessarily, it could be a skip that uses the knockback, it could lose time to try avoiding damage, it could be that if you get some auto-difficulty level gets reset, it could be that if you get hit you generate some resource that would otherwise be slower to get, it could be to activate a glitch... and so on and so forth.
I wonder... couldn't you skip HAG1 completely if you used the cutscene glitch if you just booted the credits from the replay mode instead of the final boss?
@@TSRStormed aww that's sad. I mean it would be cut off a lot of time if you could skip the final boss as then you wouldn't even need the 315 notes that's literally the only possible way to shave off a good chunk of time by now I guess. anything else would be manipulating the health grunty has when entering the fight with SRM, but that would mean somebody finds a way to do SRM in BT
@@ashleyblack7419 Funny you say that because we found a pretty similar glitch that lets us manipulate memory. Its called Pack Index Manipulation but as of right now it only has a use in a TAS setting.
@@TSRStormed well that type of glitch is rather common in games that use cardridges kinda, but often the button presses got to be too fast and preise for humans to do
Isn't there a category of Speedrun that's a true speedrun that limits you to what you have access to with a brand new file and no access to postgame content? I believe it was RingRush that did this when he any% TAS'ed DK64 a few years ago and therefore delayed his use of main menu skips until he actually had the requisite part. I'm curious to see what an any% of banjo tooie with this modifier looks like, since that basically bans the use of the "warp straight to Hag-1" glitch since that requires that you have already beaten the game to get access to that as a Replay before you warp to it...
How can you have a wr of like 26 minutes if you have to beat the game prior? If Beating the game once is needed to get that time then that needs to be calculated in or it shouldn’t count at all.
You talking about Mining Melancholy? DKC2 OST music is used in a lot of this video, this clip has mining melancholy playing in the background. If so, I have to disagree with you. David Wise made fantastic music for that game and I take every opportunity to listen to it.
You're arguing with speedrunning incels who don't know how to appreciate their games. But this is a mediocre Nintendo/Microsoft IP so it isn't relevant.
If a game has ever been beaten on the cart the replays are available unless game shark or a rewriting device is used. There is a separate category as well for not using the cutscene trick. Also with what you are describing that is just an outright ban of any tricks of the kind
video faster than the whole speedrun, wow. also appreciate how you yourself tried the tricks, helps really give a sense of the trick difficulty
Thank you, yeah that’s exactly why I wanted to do them. The bit clips is where I had no chance lol
Thanks for making this video and showcasing Tooie speedrunning!
The legend himself!
My favourite banjo speedrunner in a video :)
Excellent analysis of the Any% category of Banjo-Tooie and Hagg's recent incredible World Record. I think we'll see this time go down very soon as this route has the potential to save over 50 seconds over the last WR route. Shoutout to the Banjo community for caring about this old bear and bird game :)
Thanks again for your help! Looking forward to seeing what other game breaking techniques you guys find!
Hey that's me
Wow.
hey that's GDO!
Let’s griddy
as someone not a part of the speedrunning community, it boggles my mind how people ever discover the more elaborate and complicated glitches and sips
Many communities have dedicated glitch hunters who prefer to find strats and stuff that might work, and leave the actual use of those strats to the actual speedrunners
I really like the "this trick took me x tries to do" parts, shows how hard/easy some speedrunner tricks are for people who aren't familiar with those tricks
Edit: also the tutorial parts for some of those tricks, and the insights such as showing the geometry of the game at work behind the scenes, whole video is really good, keep up the good work
Thank you!
I love how you try all of the glitches/skips that are used in the run. It really sets you apart from other analysis videos.
Thanks!
The summoning salt arc I see
cringe comment
Cringe reply @@interrobangings
You either die a Matt Turk or live long enough to become a Summoning Salt
Why i always see these comments
But with all the wrong music! Nooo, that music is for silly Pikmin challenges!
Glad my single any% run means my name shows up here, immortalized forever
I can confirm that even in casual gameplay, Banjo Tooie took death, and swapped it from a punishment to one of the most helpful features there is
Pretty neat video, never have I seen anything about banjo tooie speedrunning before
Thanks! Yeah surprisingly there’s not many videos out there about it for some reason
It's a shame too because there's some cool unique stuff in quite a few of the categories, really underrated as a speed game if you ask me.
This game is a underrated gem i feel its the same with legend of zelda majoras mask .
at first everyone was like ocarina of time is the best and same goes with banjo kazooie .
but when i was a kid i got gifted majoras mask and later on banjo tooie i loved those games , anyway i went to play the first titles then because everyone is talking about them tbh i had more fun in banjo tooie and zelda majoras mask and was underwhelmed by ocarina of time and banjo kazooie.
Banjo Tooie is a fun Speedrun! Glad to see a game I've poured a lot of hours into get a neat video!
Keep making videos like this & you'll be at a million subs in like 2 years. Very nicely put together!
14:33 im a loyal hagg viewer. and i can tell. he chokes a lot :)
I am contractually bound to watch this video
Interesting run & analysis video! Thanks for uploading!
And thank you for watching!
Respect for the Maze Madness song usage.
Mario 64: Welcome Brother, to the Halls of the Low Percent. We have been waiting a long time for you.
Donkey Kong 64: Yes brother. We have missed you.
just want to say, including a track from diddy kong racing in the intro... i approve
It's a funny coincidence that the villain is called hag and the wr holder is named hagg
Sounds fitting to me lol
Because it was GG after that
Bro tried to speedrun his commentary too 😮💨
I like that you don’t talk at a snails pace but man, that speed is really exhausting!
Maybe slow it don’t a bit for the next one.
Great video regardless!
Appreciate the feedback! I’ve been called out for speaking too slow in past video so I guess I tried to compensate for that lol. Will definitely work on pace for the next one
If you set playback speed to 75% it sounds like the slower pace 😂
@@BaalFridge 🧠
This was what I needed!
"I speedran Banjo-Tooie while proving religion is a sham."
the soundtrack you chose to this video is bangin’
Anyone know the first track?
@@EverlastingJay0"Secret of the Forest" from Chrono Trigger. Such a good soundtrack.
sick video, this is a great speedgame that doesn't get nearly enough love
Agreed!
I feel like a speedrun that's dependent on having a completed save file isn't really solving how fast you can beat the game.
This is a very valid arguement which is why there is a No DCW category that completes the game without that glitch. If this glitch didn't save that much time it would most likely be banned but since it saves over 2 hours in the Any% category and it uses data you can't delete manually, its allowed.
Call it NG+ then. It'll still be an impressive run either way.
The thing is, if the game cart has ever played any of the bosses, the mini game menu will permanently have the boss. So essentially almost every copy of the game is a completed file. The only way to modify the boss menu is using gameshark cheats
@@Hagg_64 Alternatively, you would have to use one of those cart-reader/writer things that are not that easy to get your hands on to begin with to write a blank save file from an emulator launching the same game for the first time. That's a whole lot of money and work just to clear the save data when the runner could just decide not to run that category to begin with.
@@Hagg_64 oh, so, i think thats kinda like dk 64 then? I think? Im not super familiar but in speedrun videos i remember something like that being brought up as to why rta runners use a trick
Oooooo new video type, I'm into this
Speedrunners are, quite simply, built different.
This is my favourite game channel!
I love to see videos about banjo speedrunning
wild because most of the time I followed this game Pjii was on top of all the records
Man, I really want Tooie mods
great work brosef
Absolutely incredible:)
Given the respectful nature of the subscription request, you can add me to your list xD!
I STILL wish there was a proper Banjo Kazooie 3 :(. Maybe one day xD
Thank you! And I pray every night for Banjo Threeie
They are very smart too! From the speed runers I've seen they have always used calculations to get there time just right!
I’m constantly blown away by the things they do and figure out
I only need to get jiggy with it once to speedrun Banjo-Tooie.
Damn, I thought this was a video about the first banjo game, maybe I could’ve finally been able to beat it…
Lol well we do have a Banjo Kazooie video on the channel about beating it as a washing machine if that interests you
Doors are just a theory.
A game theory
Good video, but I can't help but point out the audio spikes all throughout inbetween many of the transitions in your commentary script which did get rather distracting.
Appreciate the feedback!
This can be the plot of Banjo Threeie
It is a fun video, but the static sound made when showing another creator isn't the best, sounds like my speakers or headset are dying and that isn't a very pleasant experience, I would rather silence or a less abrasive sound effect if this format is going to be done again.
Hmm weird I didn’t hear any static sound when I played back the video, and I didn’t use any audio from the actual speedrun. Either way appreciate the feedback!
i hear it as well- i think it's the screenshots specifically, but it's a very high frequency sound so i wonder if it's actually audible to everyone ^^
@@pressaTDi hear the noise aswell, maybe because im on mobile with headphones its very common, but its about every 2 or 3 minutes in the video
I hear it too, and went looking for a comment mentioning it
They mean the sound effect that plays whenever you're showing the image of another channel profile, e.g. at 9:58.
There is never enough Banjo content imo and especially on the speedruns. I had to watch (listen) at 0.75 speed to keep up with the sheer amount of information but an excellent video nonetheless.
Thanks! Lol yeah I’ll have to work on my pace for the next one
Guh huh (Impressive)
Awesome video, hope it gets a lot of views
Fingers crossed!
On behalf of the A Button Challenge community: don't press A
Delicious, delicious floor triangles.
0:17 "small" kappa
Watching Banjo with ocarina OST is so refreshing 🤗
NOOOO WE CANT GET JIGGY WITH IT WITH JIIGGYWIGGY
Great video!
cool video, only feedback is the 'glitch' sound effect whenever you put anyones name on screen was very loud, could have been half volume
Thanks! Appreciate the feedback!
you just blew my mind
That’s what we’re here to do
Is that Great Edo Land music from Chameleon Twist 2?
Lol I wish it was, Chameleon Twist 2 ost is also a banger. The song you’re likely referring to in the video is Cleopactra from Miss Pac-Man
[Comment that doesn't mention summoning salt]
You still mentioned summoning salt in your comment about not mentioning summoning salt.
@coneyzz next time you do a banjotooie stream you gotta do this
One question. Why is the Saucer of Peril cutscene specifically used for DCW? The video doesn't seem to explain why this can't be done as early as the opening cutscene.
Did you speed your voice over up? I can't quite tell but something sounds off with it
Yeah admittedly the pace was a bit fast with this one, but if you didn’t know that there’s two of us that run Press A then that could also be why it sounds off lol
Great video! 🎉
Thank you!
Pac-Man maze madness music made me feel so happy
More people need to know about this banger ost!
I have a suggestion:
Pikmin 2, reds only, as many treasures as possible
Jiggy puff Be Like:
Has anyone tried speedrunning the game after entering "CHEATOLAICEPSYGGIWYGGIJ" (Jiggy Wiggy Special, backwards) to unlock all levels? You wouldn't have to do any of the clipping tricks on the stages.
Look up Cheato% which is basically Any% with cheats. This used to be the fastest way of beating the game until this new route that Hagg does came along. You also don't have to spell the cheat backwards, its one of the secret ones the game doesn't tell you about.
I don’t speedrun the game but that is always how i play it. I use to beat the game with 1 jiggy all the time, granted it wasnt quick at all.
Nice to know that everyone struggles with speedrun tricks at the start. I attempted early bombs in Metroid Dread (eventually managed to get it) and even something that small was really hard to do. I can (typically) do the steps, it's putting them together perfectly in one complete run that hitches me up. The Speed Runners put this nonsense down to a science, and so do the videos explaining how to do the tricks, but actually DOING them, is harder than it looks. Like a LOT harder.
Does anyone have the title for the song that plays in the background during 5:22 ?
Mining Melancholy from DKC2
Do you have a list of the music you used? I just KNOW I've heard the song starting at 10:10 before but I can't quite place it...
That would be Cleopactra from Ms Pac-Man
Why do the colors on the speedrun look off?
Poor Jiggy Wiggy
What song was used in the intro of the video?
Secret of the Forest from Chrono Trigger ost
Still gonna make that is it possible to beat tooie 100% without jiggywiggy video
I mean this run is technically already that lol
@@pressaTDthis is the minimal run. I’m talking the 100% run. All jinjos all collectibles all worlds no jiggywiggy
Plus I’ve been planning the route for months and don’t want to throw away the effort
Hagg1 in the chat
5:20
Or to damage boost
Or to manipulate the AI
Or to set up a glitch
Or because it does something weird to the game as a whole that doesn't fall into the above
Man, your videos are starting to rival Summoning Salt for quality!! Love it
Thank you! Trying to improve with every video!
What study which study are you quoting there buddy that says asking people to subscribe helps people remember? When you eat at a restaurant do you pay before or after you ate? When you enter a store do you go right to the till and hand the cashier money before looking around the store?
Do you pay to sub?
@pressaTD yes with the only resource I have a finite amount of in life making it the most valuable, time.
The Witchyworld bit clip Is possible on Xbox?
I want to say yes, but the Xbox version has a totally different path for speedrunning and the WW early bitclip doesn’t seem to be used in that run
@@pressaTD ok, but I Will give It a try
Nobody has done it, it requires lag. It may be technically possible but is not viable at all
Hey could you pass me the song name you used in 14:14? Please
Sure thing. The song is a remix of Forest of Hope from Pikmin
@@pressaTD no way, it was Pikmin all along? At first I thought it came from a mobile game called crash fever for some reason.
Thank you so much 🙇
5:23 not necessarily, it could be a skip that uses the knockback, it could lose time to try avoiding damage, it could be that if you get some auto-difficulty level gets reset, it could be that if you get hit you generate some resource that would otherwise be slower to get, it could be to activate a glitch... and so on and so forth.
Was the audio sped up? Turned off watching this video, shame because its an interesting topic.
Yeah the pace was admittedly a bit fast with this one. Apparently reducing the speed to 75% helps a lot. Appreciate the honesty!
I wonder... couldn't you skip HAG1 completely if you used the cutscene glitch if you just booted the credits from the replay mode instead of the final boss?
The game doesn't treat the aftermath of Hag 1 cutscene as a cutscene that can be stored in memory. So you can't DCW to it.
@@TSRStormed aww that's sad. I mean it would be cut off a lot of time if you could skip the final boss as then you wouldn't even need the 315 notes
that's literally the only possible way to shave off a good chunk of time by now I guess.
anything else would be manipulating the health grunty has when entering the fight with SRM, but that would mean somebody finds a way to do SRM in BT
@@ashleyblack7419 Funny you say that because we found a pretty similar glitch that lets us manipulate memory. Its called Pack Index Manipulation but as of right now it only has a use in a TAS setting.
@@TSRStormed well that type of glitch is rather common in games that use cardridges kinda, but often the button presses got to be too fast and preise for humans to do
Isn't there a category of Speedrun that's a true speedrun that limits you to what you have access to with a brand new file and no access to postgame content? I believe it was RingRush that did this when he any% TAS'ed DK64 a few years ago and therefore delayed his use of main menu skips until he actually had the requisite part. I'm curious to see what an any% of banjo tooie with this modifier looks like, since that basically bans the use of the "warp straight to Hag-1" glitch since that requires that you have already beaten the game to get access to that as a Replay before you warp to it...
Yep there’s a category that doesn’t allow delayed cutscene warp
How can you have a wr of like 26 minutes if you have to beat the game prior? If Beating the game once is needed to get that time then that needs to be calculated in or it shouldn’t count at all.
Wow a sub-30 min on my bday lol
Nice vid
Appreciate it!
Banjo-Tooie more like Banjo-Oneie. bc u get one jiggy
Whatever noise was in the background /music was beyond annoying... 6:40 but it repears through the whole video
It’s so weird because you’re not the first person to mention this but I honestly can’t hear what people are talking about lol
You talking about Mining Melancholy? DKC2 OST music is used in a lot of this video, this clip has mining melancholy playing in the background. If so, I have to disagree with you. David Wise made fantastic music for that game and I take every opportunity to listen to it.
bismuth collab when?
Why do you pronounce it Hague and not hag????
I wish I knew
bitclipping was a mistake. may as well be as infamous as BLJing
This channel is seriously so small for the quality of the videos
If a trick requires a file with a completed game on it, the time it took to make that game file should be included in the run.
Then call it NG+ and move on with your life. It's an impressive run and your semantics won't detract from that.
I was not trying to detract from that. Maybe you should move on with yours.
@@thecolorfox lol okay, you sure weren't.
You're arguing with speedrunning incels who don't know how to appreciate their games. But this is a mediocre Nintendo/Microsoft IP so it isn't relevant.
@@stevenD13455 Cringe take
I never ever figured out 😂how to play this game
Lol it’s definitely a challenging game
Dofus music ?
Sorry what is Dofus? Lol
Please
Am I the only one distracted by the anime girl on his splits?
🤣
If you have to have beat the game to do this wouldn't this be new game+ I so disagree with this category.
I'm still on team "if your speedrun setup requires you to beat the game, that original clear should be included in the run time"
It's hard to define that when the game doesn't let you delete that data from your cartridge without cheats.
If a game has ever been beaten on the cart the replays are available unless game shark or a rewriting device is used. There is a separate category as well for not using the cutscene trick. Also with what you are describing that is just an outright ban of any tricks of the kind
More pikmin videos
Lol to be fair the last 9 videos have been Pikmin
Oh damn, I’m early
How telling it is that a mediocre Nintendo/Microsoft developer makes games that can be broken so easily. Lol
mediorce? they released most of the iconic games from snes and n64. thats not medicore at all
@@awelshwhaleAll dead franchises. Even Donkey Kong country.