I still remember when a lot of these clips and warps were discovered. It was right before an AGDQ event, and the second the run started the runner said "Yeah... this is probably going to be a World Record. No one has really done an official runs with these skips so... yeah." And it was a WR by a wide margin.
Great video! Big thanks to Ty from Press A! for making this vid on DKR Any%! I highly recommend also checking out some of the other main category runs on the SRC page for DKR, like 100% and All Trophy Races. We actually had a new World Record in the All Trophy Races category by Leah less than a week ago, a 22:51 which is 6 second improvement over the old record, so please check out that run too!
I had just recently unlocked TT for the first time in my copy of DKR just for the sole purpose of helping play through Adventure 2, which I had never fully completed, but I did so in one sitting after having unlocked TT.
This is pretty wild! I'm always impressed how speedrunners can figure out some of these techniques and glitches! I did find out that Rare had initially planned the Tricky in Diddy Kong Racing to be the same one from Star Fox Adventures. When Rare was initially creating Dinosaur Planet (what we now know as Star Fox Adventures), the protagonist was actually going to be Timber the Tiger before that idea was scrapped during early development so it was going to tie into some elements of Diddy Kong Racing (like Tricky).
10:25 Yes, triceratops from star fox adventures is connected to this triceratops. You can find videos the origins of star fox adventures and how it ties in with rare leaving to Xbox.
Been watching and following DKR speedruns for a little over a year now and I gotta tell you this video is very very well done. Accurate, concise and informative even for someone who wouldn't know much about this game. Great work!
@@pressaTD If you do like this world I recommend checking out the 100% category and maybe more interestingly the silver coin routing. Adventure 2 mode is very niche but has a completely different set of silver coins. Ponytail will lead you to the appropriate people.
At 4:58 he's done a sub 1 minute time as of sometime this year overlapping wizpig and beating the 1 minute barrier which no one else has come close to. If I recall correctly, next closest was a 1:03.
It didn’t get a sequel however it did get a notable DS remake which utilized the DS features at the time and allowed personal customization in the balloons and car designs.
Yes, that's the same Tricky from Star Fox Adventures. And the same Banjo and Tiptup from Banjo-Kazooie. And the same Diddy and generic badguy (Krunch) from Donkey Kong Country. And the same Drumstick from my dinner last night.
Loved this game as a child. Loved other videos you’ve posted. Somehow I hadn’t subscribed to your channel, but the sponsorship swayed me to finally click that button. God bless the invisible hands of big potassium
I have this memory when I was a kid. I remembered entering in the final boss race (first race) from the stone head. I was just messing around and I clip right in the loading zone. Never knew how I did that.
A memory I had playing DKR as a kid was collecting the Future Fun Land minigame key in Star City, around the part that the monorail by the bridge enters and exits. Though, that turned out to just be a false memory, as there is no key anywhere in Future Fun Land. Although, there does seem to be an intended spot for one, and it's in Spaceport Alpha, just to the right of the finish line, there is a small alcove similar to the ones in Crescent Island and Snowball Valley
@@mrponytaledkr Hmmm... Interesting. And do you really belive that it was just a false memory that you have? In my case I'm pretty sure it was a glitch. Another memory I have experience someting similar It's playing Mario Sunshine. I was again messing around in Pianta Village. I was doing random stuff in the mushrooms and suddendly, I got lunched high. I gain, never knew how I did that... Until years later watching speedruns videos. I'm pretty sure I had the rocket nozzle and I performed a glitch called ''rocket storage''. When I saw that glitch I immediately remembered that one time.
everyone who keeps saying that the music being turned off is the worst thing that can happen in the game forgets that you don't need it to be playing in the game itself to have the music AND the speedrun. you can turn on the music in a youtube tab and play while it runs in the background
I knew all of this about DKR and was still entertained watching this video. Great job. Okay, the only thing I didn't know what bananas speeding you up by 2.5% per banana. I thought it was 1% per banana.
Yep, it's +2.5% per banana. They are incredibly strong and very important when it comes to how we route individual levels, as getting more bananas on lap 1 increases the average speed throughout the track. Some tracks like Whale Bay don't have up to 10 bananas close enough to the optimal line to grab, so you'll often see runners only ever getting up to 7 bananas there, as grabbing the next nearest bananas would cost more time than they would save on a track of it's length.
The Wrong Warp isn't fully understood yet. All the DKR community knows at the moment is what results you can get across all versions, and the odds of the different warps on the Japanese version. Sadly, there doesn't seem to be a way to affect what result we will get when performing the Wrong Warp. Hopefully one day it gets figured out!
I still remember hearing about when the original thing that broke the game a couple of days before an GDQ run ages back. The runner had to learn it in under a few days.
You're probably thinking about this run from Toufool at GDQ in 2013! Yeah the strats we're very new so the WR was technically unoptimal with the new route, so him getting WR live during his showcase was a bit easy, but very sick nonetheless ua-cam.com/video/0Ct8n1CClUM/v-deo.html
Surprisingly, all the Japanese here is easy. Written with kids in mind, which is why there’s practically no kanji. I’m sure you’ll get it though. Hiragana and katakana is the easiest part to learn.
If there was a consistent way to get the best RNG then yeah the route would become a bit faster. Sadly, there isn't a way to do it yet. Hopefully it gets figured out one day!
@@renakunisaki We're not sure why that loading zone is placed there, most likely the track was changed at one point in development and it was forgotten that it was still there. As for why it behaves differently across different versions, we're also unsure. All we know is what it can do and how we can best use it for speedruns
The blue elephant tells you that when you press A repeatedly instead of holding it, the cars are faster and this makes the whole game easy, including the silver coin challenges. I wanted to mention this to you because you said you struggled with the first wizpig race.
Taj's Tips are as follows: After beating Tricky the 1st time "Try pressing brake while skidding!" After beating Bluey the 1st time "Take your finger off the accelerator, just before you hit a zipper!" And that's all the tips that Taj gives you. The 2nd tip about taking your finger off the accelerator just before you hit a zipper is for getting the stronger boosts, it will turn the boost from having pink flames and gray exhaust into green flames with rainbow exhaust, which also results in a longer boost. What's odd is that a lot of people even in the speedrunning community for DKR also misremember Taj giving the tip that reveals "A tapping" which is not true. I believe it's what is called a "Mandela Effect," a false memory shared by many people.
@mrponytaledkr I think he only said that in the German version but it is true anyway because I never managed to beat the game while pressing A continuously but once I tapped it, the game was easy as pie.
@@renakunisaki Nowadays the community knows the exact best rhythms for A tapping. For a while it was thought that the faster you "mash" the A button the faster you go, but thanks to some math done by some TASers and from looking into the game's code, we know the best speeds: a single frame A press every 4 frames (1 frame of A, 3 frames of no A, total of 4 frames.) The game runs at a variable framerate (intervals of 30fps, 20fps, 15fps and 12.5fps, though 12.5fps only happens for a few frames at a time and knowing the tapping speed is almost not helpful.) So the math checks out to the following: 30fps = 7.5 A Presses per second (450BPM), 20fps = 5.0 A presses per second (300BPM), 15fps = 3.75 A taps per second (225 BPM). Any slower or faster than these rates and your effectiveness for A tapping will diminish, but even if you're off the optimal tapping speed you'll still be getting more speed compared to just holding A.
*is tricky from diddy kong racing tricky from starfox* well now you got me thinking about if fox was in diddy kong racing, although i assume he would make it in a new mario kart before a diddy kong racing game.
Yes, you can use any character for speedruns of DKR. It's true that TT (and also Drumstick) are not unlocked from a fresh state of the game. However, the community that runs and moderates the game decided a long time ago that you may use the unlockable characters for new game speedruns. Once you've unlocked TT or Drumstick, they can be used when starting a new save file, and those characters will remain unlocked even if you delete all your adventure files, as their progression are saved onto the cartridge itself and not to any one game file. Technically, it does make categories like 100% or Any% a New Game+ (NG+) and not a true new game speedrun. But all using a different character would do is make it the same run, but slower, as you can do all the important time saves with every character. Hope that cleared things up!
I didn't knew Wrong Warp was also a thing in Diddy Kong Racing! Would it be possible to warp directly to the Future Funland with the plane and then clip to the final boss? Like how they managed to warp from the Gohma boss battle to Ganondorf's castle colapsing in Ocarina of Time?
There is a way to beat the game in less than 5 minutes, though it uses a variation of the Wrong Warp glitch that is only possible in 2-Player mode. It isn't allowed in the normal Any% runs since it makes it a completely different run, but it's still very fun to show off!
idk if annyone poitned it out, but the reason speedruner go out of bound with the tier 1 boost is cause you get a t4 boost whenever you use any boost (from items or speed pads) and you ain't holding the A button
The boosts only go up to a level 3 if you hit a blue balloon 3 times in a row. There is no t4/level 4 boost. But yes, not holding A as you get any boost will increase it's effectiveness by letting you boost for longer. One main reason you don't see runners using level 2 or 3 boosts is because the amount of extra boost you get from leveling it up doesn't scale linearly. Often times you'll see runners using level 1 boosts into another level 1 boosts, because using many level 1 boosts in a row actually yields more boost than stacking up to a higher level. Hope that helps!
Don't feel too bad about missing the tricks. Pipsy is actually the SLOWEST character in the game, not the fastest. She has the best acceleration and steering though, but she gets the least benefit from a blue balloon. Getting that wizpig skip with her was impressive.
Well it’s sad for me to know that I won’t be able to pull off most of the well-known glitches in DKR (since I own a North American v1.0 copy). Didn’t think the game had many differences and game-breaking tricks to break the game even further.
The JP version of DKR is surprisingly cheap to acquire. Over the years it is usually for sale on eBay for maybe $10 USD or less. You can also run JP games in US consoles if you either take out the region lock on the back of the cartridge to swap out to your console's region, or you can remove the region lock inside the console to run both US and JP games in the same console!
Depends on the game. It's not like there's a single set of rules for each games, and every game MUST follow those rules. The runners that play the games define the rules that everyone follows. It's mainly based on what way is fun and interesting to run for the game. In addition, many games have different categories that either have stricter rules, or more lax rules. Mario Galaxy is one that stands out in regards to the start of the game. There's a very long cutscene at the beginning that cannot be skipped, and a small boss fight. Many runs use a "Standardized" save game that is actually hacked/modified to load the game just after this small intro section. So long as everyone follows this same standard, then its all a fair start. :)
@@yohoki4642 Yep. The DKR community decided a long time ago that using any character, including the 2 unlockable characters (TT and Drumstick) are allowed for pretty much every run. All using a different character would do would make the run slower. You can still do every important trick with every character, it's just slower.
This game is one of those cases where the flag is saved onto your cart no matter if you delete the save file so you can always play as TT after unlocking him. The same is also for Drumstick the Rooster but while Drumstick is the 2nd fastest character is the fastest in the plane and to unlock him you need to get the 4 trophies and 39 gold balloons and then run over a frog with a red crest on it Now you could use the Genie to wipe the flags for the unlocked characters but no one is going to do that as it's like getting rid of the flags to being able to skip cutscenes in Metroid Other M, there is no point when you can just unlock the characters. Sure there could be separate categories with beating the game with specific characters but i don't think they wanna do that since there would not be enough demand for such a thing
@@JohnnyYeTaecanUktena Yes, that's it exactly. I think it's also important to note that it isn't just DKR that allows unlockables in speedruns and WR attempts, looking at you MKWii/MK8 :D
Modders need to make a post process mod that adds the music back in without game loss e - there are a lot of obvious things that modders could do that makes me think either the community is adverse to it or it's outright difficult
The Decompilation Team for Diddy Kong Racing has actually made a lot of progress in fixing the games code to optimize it for framerate. There is a 30fps mod in the works, as well as an uncapped framerate mod. Although, a lot of the physics code is not designed to handle framerates about 30, so weird things start to happen past 30fps. Here's a vid from runner "Obiyo" playing on the uncapped framerate mod on a real console ua-cam.com/video/KwibJLSgrRg/v-deo.html
That's correct. Pipsy has maxed out acceleration and handling, but the lowest top speed. Depending on how you're using Pipsy, that can make her really fast or slow.
When I first ran into the diddy kong racing speedrun it was on twitch, and it was for a race. I was wondering why they didn't have the music on. They turned it on for the viewers because, like, seriously, why would you play this without music lol - the music DOES make it lag but man the music.
Yeah, the music does cause a great deal of lag. However, some top runners choose to keep music on as you can still go plenty fast with all the lag, you just have to know how to adjust to the extra lag. Currently, the All Trophy Races world record has had a long history of needing music off as it's an extremely competitive and tight category. Plus, you don't lose time for turning music off as the run only starts once you select the trophy in Track Select. For Any% and 100%, we have to reset the console in some spots to save time, but resetting the console turns the music back on, which means if you want the music back off you will have to spend some time menuing to turn it off.
Sorry for being off topic, but it is my pet peeve, if a level is called broken when it is actually totally fine for every normal player. If I play the game normally and a glitch that hinders me from progressing, then it's broken. If there is some obscure stuff you need to do that no normal player would ever encounter (and that is then even used for an advantage) it is not really broken / bad
Yeah. This game is _breakable_ but you have to actually make an effort to break it. Sonic '06 is a game that's actually _broken_ , the glitches get in your way when you're trying to play normally.
I wish Nintendo would release this for the Switch… a hard copy or download. Also Perfect Dark and Killer Instinct would also be awesome to play on the Switch. Those games made by Rare were way awesome! And I don’t mean have it available only for paid subscription memberships but as a download for just the game you want to play it anytime anywhere.
I wonder if they’d be able to. They rereleased the game in 2007 but since Nintendo didn’t have the rights to Conker and Banjo, they had to replace them. If they did do a release for the Switch, which version would they base it on…the beloved 97 version or the meh ‘07 version. Yeah my bias is definitely showing as to which I prefer. 😅
19:05(ish) - the way this is worded, it sounds JUST LIKE one of the crazy stories my friend would tell me, about the N64 cartridges i let him borrow...one time he told me that he unlocked Diddy Kong, for MarioKart64...then, he said, in the next race (using Diddy), he got hit by a Green Shell, so Diddy "died" and was no longer available to pick, unless you wipe ALL the save data and "unlock" him again... ...but ill be damned, if the Video doesnt literally show T.T. "coming down and STOMPING on you, with So Much Force that you FLY UP and over the wall....." like, maybe my friend WASNT just making up sone dumb story, but had some other glitch happen, that he thought 'looked like' Diddy Kong...
There's some weird ground clipping that can happen sometimes in DKR, and in Dino Domain it can happen often if you hold A as you exit the Jungle Falls level. You'll often clip on the door as it's opening which can sometimes put one of your wheels into the ground like that.
You can start any run with any character, including either of the unlockable characters (TT or Drumstick) and that time is not included in the speedrun. A lot of games allow use of unlockables in new speedruns like the later Mario Kart games like Wii or 8 Deluxe. It just depends on the community and the category, as in DKR we do have a category that requires you to start on a fresh state of the cartridge and then unlock everything, which is a 5+ hour run. Hope that cleared things up!
Any character can be used. Using TT just makes the run faster since he has maxed out speed stats. You can do all the tricks with every character, even the slowest ones, of course it just makes the run slower, and since this is a speedrun we want to go as fast as possible.
Yes. Having 10 extra bananas would give you +25% speed. There is a leaderboard in the DKR community called the "Magic Code Leaderboard" which allows runs of individual levels with any combo of Magic codes to be used. The first track Ancient Lake had been beaten in just 25 seconds with Magic codes!
How in the world did anyone figure this stuff out? Geez! I could never unlock TT or get the second Wizpig race because of the silver coin challenge for Spaceport Alpha. I could never come in first for that one.
There are some tough Silver Coin races. Spaceport Alpha can be pretty hard, also Greenwood Village. Knowing about some of the movement tech in the Plane like holding R to be able to turn tighter and holding or tapping B to turn even sharper can really help out. Also, grabbing a shield in the long laser corridor can help in grabbing the 2 coins in there without getting shot down. As for how we've figured out all this stuff, it comes from doing our best to understand how the game works, how it behaves when we poke at it in weird ways, and how to abuse the way it reacts to stuff, just like most games. The people that find this stuff often have played the game more than any other person in the world, so it makes sense that with that much play time that they're bound to find some of this crazy stuff. After playing for 5 years now, I forget how many thousands of hours I've spent playing DKR, and in that time I've found a bunch of tricks and small time saves just from all my time observing how the game works as well as theory crafting and testing. I truly love this game, it has so much to offer for the single player experience
I mean yeah why hasn't it gotten a squal? Like people assume it's because of rare and nintendos fall out... But um Rare doen't own the copyright for this game just a ton of characters in it... Which Nintendo could easly make Mario Kart: Diddy kong racing 2 that has all the Donkey kong chaarcters and the gameplay of the first the real reason this game is a cult classic... Also rare could easly also make a seqaul just scubbing it of any Nintendo IP just using their own with again the OG gameplay that everyone is a fan of this game for... so yeah why haven't they?
it is different to play, mainly because the silver coin races are replaced with touch challenges that cannot be sped up and now there are permanent upgrades obtained by collecting rareware coins in the races instead of collecting bananas to go faster, its considerably changed
The biggest thing that puts me off speedrunning is the absolute focus on efficiency over fun, I consider myself a decent DKR player, perhaps even competitive but i don't use glitches, I don't do stupid 1 frame pause skips and I play as Conker, and my focus on playing how I want instead of the "Optimal" way has caused alot of trouble for me.
That is one of the reasons that turn some off from learning or even appreciating speedrunning yeah, the endless quest for perfection. For me though, after speedrunning DKR for 5 years, I can confidently say that I'm now playing the game how I always wanted to since I was a kid, just blasting through every level as fast as possible, that's what I find fun about it. Of course, there's other categories and so many ways to play DKR as well as all speedruns. Not every category includes the glitches or tons of frame perfect stuff. Specifically for DKR, there is the Any% Glitchless category, which doesn't do any out of bounds, wrong warps or frame perfect cutscene skips. Just the driving pretty much. That being said, a ton of skill goes into a run even if it doesn't use glitches. I always recommend playing the game how you want, but always leave room for yourself to explore other options!
@@mrponytaledkr I probably should have mentioned but I did actually used to speedrun games, I did Sonic speedruns, Ratchet and Clank speedruns and SpongeBob Movie speedruns, but the thing that really killed speedrunning for me was that intense focus on optimization, speedrunning has gotten away from just having fun, it's all about saving frames and pushing a game to it's absolute limits instead of just playing it fast, it's that toxic Goldeneye speedrunning mindset but it's everywhere, being screamed at for daring to speedrun a different version of a game than the "Optimal" version really does a number on your opinion of speedrunning as a scene.
@@Cade_Squirrel Yeah I definitely get that. I think DKR is still in that golilocks zone where there are people running that are fairly dedicated, but it isn't insanely optimized where any hundredth improved on a record is a big deal. We still have WRs by many tenths, even over half a second or even full second cuts sometimes! Part of it is the nature of DKR itself that has to do with it feeling unoptimized, it gets even crazier at the top level. Just the other day I improved a WR by over half a second, and it can still go down by maybe 2 more seconds. The better you get in this game, the faster you go, and it gets exponential. It's very fun
@@mrponytaledkr You see, in my eyes when a game is improving it's WR by seconds or less than a second, the game is perfected, there is zero point in running it anymore, just leave it to TASers until some new discovery is found, I've seen cases where he dogged persuit of perfection has actively obfuscated big new skips such as the penguin in Sherbert Land.
@@Cade_Squirrel Fair point. There is a big part of the speedrunning community that also gets so much joy in taking games to their absolute limit, even if it means getting WR improvements by fractions of seconds, and also if it takes years for a single improvement to happen. An example of this is the original Super Mario Bros. on NES. Players are within a fraction of a second to the absolute human limit, and any time in that game that an improvement happens, it's a really big deal. A lot of effort is put into those WRs and shouldn't be understated just because it's only WR by say 0.10 or less at a time. Of course, getting to see big numbers anytime you PB is also very fun too :D
Before anyone comments.
Diddy Kong Racing has the correct version of the Barrel Roll.
That's RIGHT!
Star Fox does an aileron roll
it would be the best joke ever if Rare called it the Aileron roll just to spite everyone
Finally, a sponsorship I can get behind
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@@pressaTD OHHHH, BANANA!!
BANAANAAAA
The like was given instantaniously
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I can't believe such a well respected youtuber as yourself would sell out to Big Banana like this...
They hit 50k and suddenly all morals went out the window.
What’s wrong with bananas!?
Don’t you know they’re illegal in the land of Edo
@pressaTD oh, you don't know?
The deal was very a-peeling
i am ok with never being able to wr, the music is 80% of the reason i care about running this game
Agreed!
Facts!
I always smile when I hear DKR music used in videos.
Turning this game's music off is a travesty.
I still remember when a lot of these clips and warps were discovered. It was right before an AGDQ event, and the second the run started the runner said "Yeah... this is probably going to be a World Record. No one has really done an official runs with these skips so... yeah." And it was a WR by a wide margin.
"You can't beat me!"
"I almost *lapped* you."
WizPig got nothing on MrPonytale
Great video! Big thanks to Ty from Press A! for making this vid on DKR Any%! I highly recommend also checking out some of the other main category runs on the SRC page for DKR, like 100% and All Trophy Races. We actually had a new World Record in the All Trophy Races category by Leah less than a week ago, a 22:51 which is 6 second improvement over the old record, so please check out that run too!
Does Leah have a YT Channel/Twitch Vods? I can't get enough DKR content.
Huge compliment coming from the WR holder! Thanks again for all your help!
@@Samps76 She does indeed! The YT name is just Leah, and she also does Time Trial runs occasionally.
Bro. I can’t believe music makes the game lag in DK Racing. That’s the funniest thing I’ve seen in a. While
Sometimes its hard to believe this is a real game, and NOT just a fever dream I had as a kid playing on emulator. XD
I had just recently unlocked TT for the first time in my copy of DKR just for the sole purpose of helping play through Adventure 2, which I had never fully completed, but I did so in one sitting after having unlocked TT.
Congrats! Unlocking TT takes a fair amount of skill to accomplish!
This is pretty wild! I'm always impressed how speedrunners can figure out some of these techniques and glitches! I did find out that Rare had initially planned the Tricky in Diddy Kong Racing to be the same one from Star Fox Adventures. When Rare was initially creating Dinosaur Planet (what we now know as Star Fox Adventures), the protagonist was actually going to be Timber the Tiger before that idea was scrapped during early development so it was going to tie into some elements of Diddy Kong Racing (like Tricky).
Yeah I truly have no idea how anyone would find these glitches lol. They are so specific.
Regarding Tricky, ahhh that makes sense!
10:25 Yes, triceratops from star fox adventures is connected to this triceratops. You can find videos the origins of star fox adventures and how it ties in with rare leaving to Xbox.
this game's music is so amazing, it stuck with me ever since I played it as a kid
Same!
I love how they included the word "fun" in CBT world
I'm just stunned that they're actually barrel rolls
The TT Stomp, or as I recently called it, the YeeTT
A good way to track your speed is by using the speedometer
lol I only mentioned that for people who might not know it’s a feature in the game
Amazing video! Thanks for showing love to DKR! 🍌
Thank you MorKs!
Been watching and following DKR speedruns for a little over a year now and I gotta tell you this video is very very well done. Accurate, concise and informative even for someone who wouldn't know much about this game. Great work!
Thank you so much!
@@pressaTD If you do like this world I recommend checking out the 100% category and maybe more interestingly the silver coin routing. Adventure 2 mode is very niche but has a completely different set of silver coins. Ponytail will lead you to the appropriate people.
This and CTR were my favorite cart racers growing up. Watching these speedrunners DESTROY these races is insane
At 4:58 he's done a sub 1 minute time as of sometime this year overlapping wizpig and beating the 1 minute barrier which no one else has come close to.
If I recall correctly, next closest was a 1:03.
Just crazy lol
It didn’t get a sequel however it did get a notable DS remake which utilized the DS features at the time and allowed personal customization in the balloons and car designs.
Awesome video! I like the challenge runs and the info videos about speed runs. Keep up the great work!
Thank you!
Yes, that's the same Tricky from Star Fox Adventures. And the same Banjo and Tiptup from Banjo-Kazooie. And the same Diddy and generic badguy (Krunch) from Donkey Kong Country. And the same Drumstick from my dinner last night.
And the same Swiss watch (TT the Clock) from the Nintendo comics!
Loved this game as a child. Loved other videos you’ve posted. Somehow I hadn’t subscribed to your channel, but the sponsorship swayed me to finally click that button. God bless the invisible hands of big potassium
Bless this videos algorithm
DKR64 video? What a treat
Hope you enjoy!
I have this memory when I was a kid. I remembered entering in the final boss race (first race) from the stone head. I was just messing around and I clip right in the loading zone. Never knew how I did that.
A memory I had playing DKR as a kid was collecting the Future Fun Land minigame key in Star City, around the part that the monorail by the bridge enters and exits. Though, that turned out to just be a false memory, as there is no key anywhere in Future Fun Land. Although, there does seem to be an intended spot for one, and it's in Spaceport Alpha, just to the right of the finish line, there is a small alcove similar to the ones in Crescent Island and Snowball Valley
@@mrponytaledkr Hmmm... Interesting. And do you really belive that it was just a false memory that you have?
In my case I'm pretty sure it was a glitch.
Another memory I have experience someting similar It's playing Mario Sunshine. I was again messing around in Pianta Village. I was doing random stuff in the mushrooms and suddendly, I got lunched high. I gain, never knew how I did that... Until years later watching speedruns videos. I'm pretty sure I had the rocket nozzle and I performed a glitch called ''rocket storage''. When I saw that glitch I immediately remembered that one time.
@Alexmoonrivers very cool :D
everyone who keeps saying that the music being turned off is the worst thing that can happen in the game forgets that you don't need it to be playing in the game itself to have the music AND the speedrun. you can turn on the music in a youtube tab and play while it runs in the background
I knew all of this about DKR and was still entertained watching this video. Great job. Okay, the only thing I didn't know what bananas speeding you up by 2.5% per banana. I thought it was 1% per banana.
Yep, it's +2.5% per banana. They are incredibly strong and very important when it comes to how we route individual levels, as getting more bananas on lap 1 increases the average speed throughout the track. Some tracks like Whale Bay don't have up to 10 bananas close enough to the optimal line to grab, so you'll often see runners only ever getting up to 7 bananas there, as grabbing the next nearest bananas would cost more time than they would save on a track of it's length.
Really going bananas with this one. 🍌
Good vid. It’s like I was back in my childhood self with 20 years of knowledge and the internet.
I'd love to see a video explaining how the wrong warp works!
The Wrong Warp isn't fully understood yet. All the DKR community knows at the moment is what results you can get across all versions, and the odds of the different warps on the Japanese version. Sadly, there doesn't seem to be a way to affect what result we will get when performing the Wrong Warp. Hopefully one day it gets figured out!
These people can beat this game in a half hour, and it took me twenty years, wtf
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It amazes me how people are able to discover these breaks in video games that allow them to accomplish this.
Fun fact banjo first appearance is in this game and not his own game banjo kazooie released in 1998 this game diddy kong racing released in 1997
I still remember hearing about when the original thing that broke the game a couple of days before an GDQ run ages back. The runner had to learn it in under a few days.
You're probably thinking about this run from Toufool at GDQ in 2013! Yeah the strats we're very new so the WR was technically unoptimal with the new route, so him getting WR live during his showcase was a bit easy, but very sick nonetheless ua-cam.com/video/0Ct8n1CClUM/v-deo.html
Great video! Cool speedrun!
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‘90s and early ‘00s was a magical time. Take me back.
Spend HOURS playing DKR and SM64 while listening to Britney Spears and *NSYNC. Good times.
"As hard as this is, I'll say trying to understand Japanese is even harder"
As a beginner Japanese learner, I can relate lol
Surprisingly, all the Japanese here is easy. Written with kids in mind, which is why there’s practically no kanji. I’m sure you’ll get it though. Hiragana and katakana is the easiest part to learn.
Its a simple game menu
4:04 haha does something difficult, but your voice makes it sound sarcastic so it sounds super easy
... Isn't Pipsy the *slowest* character? Shouldn't you have been using Drumstick, Krunch, or Banjo?
Sorry I got my speed and acceleration mixed up. Either way she worked for me! Lol
"A good way to track your speed is using the speedometer"
Yeah, that's kinda what they're for-
lol I only said that for anyone who doesn’t know it’s a feature in the game
Man, I feel like we could make the route more consistent with some more research into memory manipulation.
If there was a consistent way to get the best RNG then yeah the route would become a bit faster. Sadly, there isn't a way to do it yet. Hopefully it gets figured out one day!
It's so strange, why does that warp exist at all, and why does it behave this way?
@@renakunisaki We're not sure why that loading zone is placed there, most likely the track was changed at one point in development and it was forgotten that it was still there. As for why it behaves differently across different versions, we're also unsure. All we know is what it can do and how we can best use it for speedruns
The blue elephant tells you that when you press A repeatedly instead of holding it, the cars are faster and this makes the whole game easy, including the silver coin challenges. I wanted to mention this to you because you said you struggled with the first wizpig race.
Taj's Tips are as follows: After beating Tricky the 1st time "Try pressing brake while skidding!" After beating Bluey the 1st time "Take your finger off the accelerator, just before you hit a zipper!" And that's all the tips that Taj gives you. The 2nd tip about taking your finger off the accelerator just before you hit a zipper is for getting the stronger boosts, it will turn the boost from having pink flames and gray exhaust into green flames with rainbow exhaust, which also results in a longer boost. What's odd is that a lot of people even in the speedrunning community for DKR also misremember Taj giving the tip that reveals "A tapping" which is not true. I believe it's what is called a "Mandela Effect," a false memory shared by many people.
@mrponytaledkr I think he only said that in the German version but it is true anyway because I never managed to beat the game while pressing A continuously but once I tapped it, the game was easy as pie.
This video just reawakened a memory in me
the weiredest thing about diddy kong racing is using a boost ablity ( blue baloon) is faster if you let go of the gas button ( green flame ).
Yep, the same if you hit the zippers (boost panels or the ring zippers) letting go of A before hitting them gives you more boost. Very unique!
And mashing the button is faster than holding it, which is actually a glitch.
@@renakunisaki Nowadays the community knows the exact best rhythms for A tapping. For a while it was thought that the faster you "mash" the A button the faster you go, but thanks to some math done by some TASers and from looking into the game's code, we know the best speeds: a single frame A press every 4 frames (1 frame of A, 3 frames of no A, total of 4 frames.) The game runs at a variable framerate (intervals of 30fps, 20fps, 15fps and 12.5fps, though 12.5fps only happens for a few frames at a time and knowing the tapping speed is almost not helpful.) So the math checks out to the following: 30fps = 7.5 A Presses per second (450BPM), 20fps = 5.0 A presses per second (300BPM), 15fps = 3.75 A taps per second (225 BPM). Any slower or faster than these rates and your effectiveness for A tapping will diminish, but even if you're off the optimal tapping speed you'll still be getting more speed compared to just holding A.
*is tricky from diddy kong racing tricky from starfox*
well now you got me thinking about if fox was in diddy kong racing, although i assume he would make it in a new mario kart before a diddy kong racing game.
how can you use TT for a speed run if he is not unlocked at first?
Yes, you can use any character for speedruns of DKR. It's true that TT (and also Drumstick) are not unlocked from a fresh state of the game. However, the community that runs and moderates the game decided a long time ago that you may use the unlockable characters for new game speedruns. Once you've unlocked TT or Drumstick, they can be used when starting a new save file, and those characters will remain unlocked even if you delete all your adventure files, as their progression are saved onto the cartridge itself and not to any one game file. Technically, it does make categories like 100% or Any% a New Game+ (NG+) and not a true new game speedrun. But all using a different character would do is make it the same run, but slower, as you can do all the important time saves with every character. Hope that cleared things up!
I hope the split of talking to t.t is called "tttt"
I would probaly go crazy tryna figure this all out and I am a patient person but this n new level of patience 😂
I didn't knew Wrong Warp was also a thing in Diddy Kong Racing!
Would it be possible to warp directly to the Future Funland with the plane and then clip to the final boss? Like how they managed to warp from the Gohma boss battle to Ganondorf's castle colapsing in Ocarina of Time?
There is a way to beat the game in less than 5 minutes, though it uses a variation of the Wrong Warp glitch that is only possible in 2-Player mode. It isn't allowed in the normal Any% runs since it makes it a completely different run, but it's still very fun to show off!
Awesome video!
It did get that DS port, but it deserves an actual sequel
very interesting.
speedrunning is always such a very cool and interesting thing to experience.
idk if annyone poitned it out, but the reason speedruner go out of bound with the tier 1 boost is cause you get a t4 boost whenever you use any boost (from items or speed pads) and you ain't holding the A button
The boosts only go up to a level 3 if you hit a blue balloon 3 times in a row. There is no t4/level 4 boost. But yes, not holding A as you get any boost will increase it's effectiveness by letting you boost for longer. One main reason you don't see runners using level 2 or 3 boosts is because the amount of extra boost you get from leveling it up doesn't scale linearly. Often times you'll see runners using level 1 boosts into another level 1 boosts, because using many level 1 boosts in a row actually yields more boost than stacking up to a higher level. Hope that helps!
Don't feel too bad about missing the tricks. Pipsy is actually the SLOWEST character in the game, not the fastest. She has the best acceleration and steering though, but she gets the least benefit from a blue balloon. Getting that wizpig skip with her was impressive.
Appreciate it!
The tas of lapping Wizpig looks crazy.
2:08 you can call me one of those people, cause I don't listen to video game audio to watch videos like this 😂
I wish they would make a new Pdiddy Kong racing:(
They're working on the baby oil DLC with Drake, Oprah and Jaime Foxx again.
We'll soon be on our way on an *unforgettable adventure.*
*Extreme* /s
Me too :(
Ironically to get the best boosts you have to NOT Press A
Well it’s sad for me to know that I won’t be able to pull off most of the well-known glitches in DKR (since I own a North American v1.0 copy). Didn’t think the game had many differences and game-breaking tricks to break the game even further.
The JP version of DKR is surprisingly cheap to acquire. Over the years it is usually for sale on eBay for maybe $10 USD or less. You can also run JP games in US consoles if you either take out the region lock on the back of the cartridge to swap out to your console's region, or you can remove the region lock inside the console to run both US and JP games in the same console!
If T.T. is an unlockable character, then how do Speedrunners use him for Speedruns? Don‘t speedruns always get started off on a fresh save…?
Depends on the game. It's not like there's a single set of rules for each games, and every game MUST follow those rules. The runners that play the games define the rules that everyone follows. It's mainly based on what way is fun and interesting to run for the game. In addition, many games have different categories that either have stricter rules, or more lax rules. Mario Galaxy is one that stands out in regards to the start of the game. There's a very long cutscene at the beginning that cannot be skipped, and a small boss fight. Many runs use a "Standardized" save game that is actually hacked/modified to load the game just after this small intro section. So long as everyone follows this same standard, then its all a fair start. :)
@ That‘s fair hehe..
Thanks for the clarification
@@yohoki4642 Yep. The DKR community decided a long time ago that using any character, including the 2 unlockable characters (TT and Drumstick) are allowed for pretty much every run. All using a different character would do would make the run slower. You can still do every important trick with every character, it's just slower.
This game is one of those cases where the flag is saved onto your cart no matter if you delete the save file so you can always play as TT after unlocking him. The same is also for Drumstick the Rooster but while Drumstick is the 2nd fastest character is the fastest in the plane and to unlock him you need to get the 4 trophies and 39 gold balloons and then run over a frog with a red crest on it
Now you could use the Genie to wipe the flags for the unlocked characters but no one is going to do that as it's like getting rid of the flags to being able to skip cutscenes in Metroid Other M, there is no point when you can just unlock the characters. Sure there could be separate categories with beating the game with specific characters but i don't think they wanna do that since there would not be enough demand for such a thing
@@JohnnyYeTaecanUktena Yes, that's it exactly. I think it's also important to note that it isn't just DKR that allows unlockables in speedruns and WR attempts, looking at you MKWii/MK8 :D
Diddy Did it!
Modders need to make a post process mod that adds the music back in without game loss
e - there are a lot of obvious things that modders could do that makes me think either the community is adverse to it or it's outright difficult
The Decompilation Team for Diddy Kong Racing has actually made a lot of progress in fixing the games code to optimize it for framerate. There is a 30fps mod in the works, as well as an uncapped framerate mod. Although, a lot of the physics code is not designed to handle framerates about 30, so weird things start to happen past 30fps. Here's a vid from runner "Obiyo" playing on the uncapped framerate mod on a real console ua-cam.com/video/KwibJLSgrRg/v-deo.html
Wait, Pipsy is the second fastest after T.T.?
I thought her stats were acceleration focused.
That's correct. Pipsy has maxed out acceleration and handling, but the lowest top speed. Depending on how you're using Pipsy, that can make her really fast or slow.
When I first ran into the diddy kong racing speedrun it was on twitch, and it was for a race. I was wondering why they didn't have the music on. They turned it on for the viewers because, like, seriously, why would you play this without music lol - the music DOES make it lag but man the music.
Yeah, the music does cause a great deal of lag. However, some top runners choose to keep music on as you can still go plenty fast with all the lag, you just have to know how to adjust to the extra lag. Currently, the All Trophy Races world record has had a long history of needing music off as it's an extremely competitive and tight category. Plus, you don't lose time for turning music off as the run only starts once you select the trophy in Track Select. For Any% and 100%, we have to reset the console in some spots to save time, but resetting the console turns the music back on, which means if you want the music back off you will have to spend some time menuing to turn it off.
Putting some DK64 in my DKR64 game? How dare you?
You’re welcome ?
Interesting! got me subbed
Appreciate it!
Sorry for being off topic, but it is my pet peeve, if a level is called broken when it is actually totally fine for every normal player. If I play the game normally and a glitch that hinders me from progressing, then it's broken. If there is some obscure stuff you need to do that no normal player would ever encounter (and that is then even used for an advantage) it is not really broken / bad
Yeah. This game is _breakable_ but you have to actually make an effort to break it. Sonic '06 is a game that's actually _broken_ , the glitches get in your way when you're trying to play normally.
what about donkey okong race?
Never heard of it
That project that was supposed to be on the gamecube shut down after some time forgot the reason why.
3:54- "I thought using Diddy was a good idea..."
Oh, relying on Diddy is never a good idea! ;)
Reminder
Diddy Kong racing ds exists
I'm guessing you're not a fan on Pannenkoek's "A" button challenge?
I haven’t seen any of those videos, but I love the concept!
Would you get better race times if u had a ram pack installed?
The Expansion Pack to increase the N64 memory from 4MB to 8MB doesn't do anything in DKR sadly
I wish Nintendo would release this for the Switch… a hard copy or download. Also Perfect Dark and Killer Instinct would also be awesome to play on the Switch. Those games made by Rare were way awesome!
And I don’t mean have it available only for paid subscription memberships but as a download for just the game you want to play it anytime anywhere.
I wonder if they’d be able to. They rereleased the game in 2007 but since Nintendo didn’t have the rights to Conker and Banjo, they had to replace them. If they did do a release for the Switch, which version would they base it on…the beloved 97 version or the meh ‘07 version. Yeah my bias is definitely showing as to which I prefer. 😅
19:05(ish) - the way this is worded, it sounds JUST LIKE one of the crazy stories my friend would tell me, about the N64 cartridges i let him borrow...one time he told me that he unlocked Diddy Kong, for MarioKart64...then, he said, in the next race (using Diddy), he got hit by a Green Shell, so Diddy "died" and was no longer available to pick, unless you wipe ALL the save data and "unlock" him again...
...but ill be damned, if the Video doesnt literally show T.T. "coming down and STOMPING on you, with So Much Force that you FLY UP and over the wall....." like, maybe my friend WASNT just making up sone dumb story, but had some other glitch happen, that he thought 'looked like' Diddy Kong...
Diddy Kong Racing will never die
DKR 4 life
5:37 what causes that to happen?
There's some weird ground clipping that can happen sometimes in DKR, and in Dino Domain it can happen often if you hold A as you exit the Jungle Falls level. You'll often clip on the door as it's opening which can sometimes put one of your wheels into the ground like that.
Love this game
Just beat this game last week again
I have always said that Tricky from DKR is Tricky from SFA. It has to be.
Didn’t know Diddy had his own racing game
The best racing game out there
Liked only for the banana promo
This is still the best racing Game ever made
Fucking love this game
Why is the TT unlock time not included in the Speedrun time? As that IS a requirement to complete the run.
You can start any run with any character, including either of the unlockable characters (TT or Drumstick) and that time is not included in the speedrun. A lot of games allow use of unlockables in new speedruns like the later Mario Kart games like Wii or 8 Deluxe. It just depends on the community and the category, as in DKR we do have a category that requires you to start on a fresh state of the cartridge and then unlock everything, which is a 5+ hour run. Hope that cleared things up!
Any character can be used. Using TT just makes the run faster since he has maxed out speed stats. You can do all the tricks with every character, even the slowest ones, of course it just makes the run slower, and since this is a speedrun we want to go as fast as possible.
Now, they just have to do the same thing in mirror mode.
1:30 DAMN IT
I know that cheats codes aren't allowed, but would the cheat to start with 10 bananas make a lower speedrun time?
Yes. Having 10 extra bananas would give you +25% speed. There is a leaderboard in the DKR community called the "Magic Code Leaderboard" which allows runs of individual levels with any combo of Magic codes to be used. The first track Ancient Lake had been beaten in just 25 seconds with Magic codes!
Yes, you'd be faster and wouldn't need to detour to get bananas
Mr Ponytail is the world record holder, but can he beat me at the dini domain egg hunt???
Only one way to find out
Upload your fastest time! Lets see what you got! :D
How in the world did anyone figure this stuff out? Geez! I could never unlock TT or get the second Wizpig race because of the silver coin challenge for Spaceport Alpha. I could never come in first for that one.
I honestly have no idea lol
There are some tough Silver Coin races. Spaceport Alpha can be pretty hard, also Greenwood Village. Knowing about some of the movement tech in the Plane like holding R to be able to turn tighter and holding or tapping B to turn even sharper can really help out. Also, grabbing a shield in the long laser corridor can help in grabbing the 2 coins in there without getting shot down.
As for how we've figured out all this stuff, it comes from doing our best to understand how the game works, how it behaves when we poke at it in weird ways, and how to abuse the way it reacts to stuff, just like most games. The people that find this stuff often have played the game more than any other person in the world, so it makes sense that with that much play time that they're bound to find some of this crazy stuff. After playing for 5 years now, I forget how many thousands of hours I've spent playing DKR, and in that time I've found a bunch of tricks and small time saves just from all my time observing how the game works as well as theory crafting and testing. I truly love this game, it has so much to offer for the single player experience
I mean yeah why hasn't it gotten a squal? Like people assume it's because of rare and nintendos fall out... But um Rare doen't own the copyright for this game just a ton of characters in it... Which Nintendo could easly make Mario Kart: Diddy kong racing 2 that has all the Donkey kong chaarcters and the gameplay of the first the real reason this game is a cult classic... Also rare could easly also make a seqaul just scubbing it of any Nintendo IP just using their own with again the OG gameplay that everyone is a fan of this game for... so yeah why haven't they?
One of life’s greatest mysteries
Do version count?
The version of the game matters yes. I explain how at the beginning and some other parts of the video
Wait, is the DS version not a sequel?
It’s just a remake
@@pressaTD ah, ok.
it is different to play, mainly because the silver coin races are replaced with touch challenges that cannot be sped up and now there are permanent upgrades obtained by collecting rareware coins in the races instead of collecting bananas to go faster, its considerably changed
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The biggest thing that puts me off speedrunning is the absolute focus on efficiency over fun, I consider myself a decent DKR player, perhaps even competitive but i don't use glitches, I don't do stupid 1 frame pause skips and I play as Conker, and my focus on playing how I want instead of the "Optimal" way has caused alot of trouble for me.
That is one of the reasons that turn some off from learning or even appreciating speedrunning yeah, the endless quest for perfection. For me though, after speedrunning DKR for 5 years, I can confidently say that I'm now playing the game how I always wanted to since I was a kid, just blasting through every level as fast as possible, that's what I find fun about it. Of course, there's other categories and so many ways to play DKR as well as all speedruns. Not every category includes the glitches or tons of frame perfect stuff. Specifically for DKR, there is the Any% Glitchless category, which doesn't do any out of bounds, wrong warps or frame perfect cutscene skips. Just the driving pretty much. That being said, a ton of skill goes into a run even if it doesn't use glitches. I always recommend playing the game how you want, but always leave room for yourself to explore other options!
@@mrponytaledkr I probably should have mentioned but I did actually used to speedrun games, I did Sonic speedruns, Ratchet and Clank speedruns and SpongeBob Movie speedruns, but the thing that really killed speedrunning for me was that intense focus on optimization, speedrunning has gotten away from just having fun, it's all about saving frames and pushing a game to it's absolute limits instead of just playing it fast, it's that toxic Goldeneye speedrunning mindset but it's everywhere, being screamed at for daring to speedrun a different version of a game than the "Optimal" version really does a number on your opinion of speedrunning as a scene.
@@Cade_Squirrel Yeah I definitely get that. I think DKR is still in that golilocks zone where there are people running that are fairly dedicated, but it isn't insanely optimized where any hundredth improved on a record is a big deal. We still have WRs by many tenths, even over half a second or even full second cuts sometimes! Part of it is the nature of DKR itself that has to do with it feeling unoptimized, it gets even crazier at the top level. Just the other day I improved a WR by over half a second, and it can still go down by maybe 2 more seconds. The better you get in this game, the faster you go, and it gets exponential. It's very fun
@@mrponytaledkr You see, in my eyes when a game is improving it's WR by seconds or less than a second, the game is perfected, there is zero point in running it anymore, just leave it to TASers until some new discovery is found, I've seen cases where he dogged persuit of perfection has actively obfuscated big new skips such as the penguin in Sherbert Land.
@@Cade_Squirrel Fair point. There is a big part of the speedrunning community that also gets so much joy in taking games to their absolute limit, even if it means getting WR improvements by fractions of seconds, and also if it takes years for a single improvement to happen. An example of this is the original Super Mario Bros. on NES. Players are within a fraction of a second to the absolute human limit, and any time in that game that an improvement happens, it's a really big deal. A lot of effort is put into those WRs and shouldn't be understated just because it's only WR by say 0.10 or less at a time. Of course, getting to see big numbers anytime you PB is also very fun too :D
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I’ve pressed A and now what it’s been 12 hrs send help