Great video! Big thanks to Ty from Press A! for making this vid on DKR Any%! I highly recommend also checking out some of the other main category runs on the SRC page for DKR, like 100% and All Trophy Races. We actually had a new World Record in the All Trophy Races category by Leah less than a week ago, a 22:51 which is 6 second improvement over the old record, so please check out that run too!
Depends on the game. It's not like there's a single set of rules for each games, and every game MUST follow those rules. The runners that play the games define the rules that everyone follows. It's mainly based on what way is fun and interesting to run for the game. In addition, many games have different categories that either have stricter rules, or more lax rules. Mario Galaxy is one that stands out in regards to the start of the game. There's a very long cutscene at the beginning that cannot be skipped, and a small boss fight. Many runs use a "Standardized" save game that is actually hacked/modified to load the game just after this small intro section. So long as everyone follows this same standard, then its all a fair start. :)
@@yohoki4642 Yep. The DKR community decided a long time ago that using any character, including the 2 unlockable characters (TT and Drumstick) are allowed for pretty much every run. All using a different character would do would make the run slower. You can still do every important trick with every character, it's just slower.
This game is one of those cases where the flag is saved onto your cart no matter if you delete the save file so you can always play as TT after unlocking him. The same is also for Drumstick the Rooster but while Drumstick is the 2nd fastest character is the fastest in the plane and to unlock him you need to get the 4 trophies and 39 gold balloons and then run over a frog with a red crest on it Now you could use the Genie to wipe the flags for the unlocked characters but no one is going to do that as it's like getting rid of the flags to being able to skip cutscenes in Metroid Other M, there is no point when you can just unlock the characters. Sure there could be separate categories with beating the game with specific characters but i don't think they wanna do that since there would not be enough demand for such a thing
Wait so they don't use the two player exploit to go to the final race against the pig? For something that is called Any% you would think that is what they would do. Like I don't know why the run takes around 40 min as shown here you can do two player exploit without magic codes ua-cam.com/video/mo5RhuE70fg/v-deo.htmlsi=vZlsKP_aIBVSTje8 Like looking at the rules the run would be allowed as no magic codes are used so i don't understand why people don't do it, do they just not know this is actually a thing? I am genuinely curious as again anyone that is not running on version NTSC 1.0 could do it so one would expect the speedrunners would actually be doing this in Any% as it allows Wrong Warping as again this is not using magic codes Now funny thing is if runners actually see the video i linked and decided to rule on if using a two player exploit is allowed or not since you need two controllers in the first place and if it is allowed that would make English the fastest as it is consistent on bringing you back to the starting area of the game so you could just fly into the lighthouse loading zone
That glitch in particular is not used in the Any% run (we usually just called it "2-Player Glitched Any%") because it makes the run completely different. We don't currently have a leaderboard for that category of Any%, mainly because no one runs it since it pretty much consists of a single race, so it isn't that interesting or competitive in nature. Of course, I would still recommend trying it out if you're interested! It's a very cool glitch, but it isn't used in Any% because of those reasons.
i dont get why DKR speedruns ban emulators, when most N64 speedruns nowadays allow emulators, except like, goldeneye i think why be the most elitist if you REQUIRE the japanese version of the game. something most people wont be able to afford. thats just straight up richkeeping.
Emulator is banned because emulation is quite inaccurate for this game - specifically, acceleration is completely different on emulator and the speed gained by boost pads is significantly higher than on console. As you can imagine, these issues mean it's impossible to compare console runs to emulated runs in any useful way, and the community decided to stick with console. Also, using a Japanese cart is absolutely not a rule. The text is just so much faster that not switching to Japanese puts you at a significant disadvantage, so serious contenders will always choose to do so.
@joebykaeby Yep, the emulation of DKR being inaccurate is the main reason that we don't have leaderboards for it. Not only can it not compare to console runs at all, but even different emulators, as well as different settings within the same emulators can cause slight differences from player to player. Not to mention that one could easily play a modified version on an emulator. However, playing on the Japanese version actually has nothing to do with text speeds. All text speeds are the same on all versions. What Japanese is used for is exclusive glitches that are only on the Japanese version, like the more beneficial Wrong Warp results, and an Out of Bounds in Spaceport Alpha.
Idk if this is stupid sounding or not, but can't they just... make better emulators that are more accurate to the game? Then have a rule if you want to play on emulator, you HAVE to use a specific one showing proof you're using it
@@o7_AP If an emulator was able to 100% recreate the variable framerate that is present on console gameplay then yes. But sadly that just isn't the case. Would be great for the community to grow if such an emulator existed, as it would be a lot more accessible for those that want to compete on the SRC leaderboards. Most emulators play DKR at a near 30fps with only occasional drops of framerate, whereas on console it can get as low as 12fps or 15fps, and in most cases is at near constant 20fps. Sometimes the game does play at 30fps but only in select areas where not much is loaded in.
I can't believe such a well respected youtuber as yourself would sell out to Big Banana like this...
They hit 50k and suddenly all morals went out the window.
Finally, a sponsorship I can get behind
i am ok with never being able to wr, the music is 80% of the reason i care about running this game
Great video! Big thanks to Ty from Press A! for making this vid on DKR Any%! I highly recommend also checking out some of the other main category runs on the SRC page for DKR, like 100% and All Trophy Races. We actually had a new World Record in the All Trophy Races category by Leah less than a week ago, a 22:51 which is 6 second improvement over the old record, so please check out that run too!
DKR64 video? What a treat
If T.T. is an unlockable character, then how do Speedrunners use him for Speedruns? Don‘t speedruns always get started off on a fresh save…?
Depends on the game. It's not like there's a single set of rules for each games, and every game MUST follow those rules. The runners that play the games define the rules that everyone follows. It's mainly based on what way is fun and interesting to run for the game. In addition, many games have different categories that either have stricter rules, or more lax rules. Mario Galaxy is one that stands out in regards to the start of the game. There's a very long cutscene at the beginning that cannot be skipped, and a small boss fight. Many runs use a "Standardized" save game that is actually hacked/modified to load the game just after this small intro section. So long as everyone follows this same standard, then its all a fair start. :)
@ That‘s fair hehe..
Thanks for the clarification
@@yohoki4642 Yep. The DKR community decided a long time ago that using any character, including the 2 unlockable characters (TT and Drumstick) are allowed for pretty much every run. All using a different character would do would make the run slower. You can still do every important trick with every character, it's just slower.
This game is one of those cases where the flag is saved onto your cart no matter if you delete the save file so you can always play as TT after unlocking him. The same is also for Drumstick the Rooster but while Drumstick is the 2nd fastest character is the fastest in the plane and to unlock him you need to get the 4 trophies and 39 gold balloons and then run over a frog with a red crest on it
Now you could use the Genie to wipe the flags for the unlocked characters but no one is going to do that as it's like getting rid of the flags to being able to skip cutscenes in Metroid Other M, there is no point when you can just unlock the characters. Sure there could be separate categories with beating the game with specific characters but i don't think they wanna do that since there would not be enough demand for such a thing
Really going bananas with this one. 🍌
Im gonna have to play Diddy *dong* racing one of these days 🍅
meep comments are fun
"if you like bananas then like this video"
i WAS gonna like this video but since i hate bananas.... :(
i'll follow orders and not like it =(
I wish i had this game as a kid cause nowadays i really cant get into it. Tried it several times, sadly just cant.
what about donkey okong race?
This Video ist great!
this one is great
Banan
Diddy Wrong Wracing
Wait so they don't use the two player exploit to go to the final race against the pig? For something that is called Any% you would think that is what they would do. Like I don't know why the run takes around 40 min as shown here you can do two player exploit without magic codes ua-cam.com/video/mo5RhuE70fg/v-deo.htmlsi=vZlsKP_aIBVSTje8
Like looking at the rules the run would be allowed as no magic codes are used so i don't understand why people don't do it, do they just not know this is actually a thing? I am genuinely curious as again anyone that is not running on version NTSC 1.0 could do it so one would expect the speedrunners would actually be doing this in Any% as it allows Wrong Warping as again this is not using magic codes
Now funny thing is if runners actually see the video i linked and decided to rule on if using a two player exploit is allowed or not since you need two controllers in the first place and if it is allowed that would make English the fastest as it is consistent on bringing you back to the starting area of the game so you could just fly into the lighthouse loading zone
That glitch in particular is not used in the Any% run (we usually just called it "2-Player Glitched Any%") because it makes the run completely different. We don't currently have a leaderboard for that category of Any%, mainly because no one runs it since it pretty much consists of a single race, so it isn't that interesting or competitive in nature. Of course, I would still recommend trying it out if you're interested! It's a very cool glitch, but it isn't used in Any% because of those reasons.
i dont get why DKR speedruns ban emulators, when most N64 speedruns nowadays allow emulators, except like, goldeneye i think
why be the most elitist if you REQUIRE the japanese version of the game. something most people wont be able to afford. thats just straight up richkeeping.
Emulator is banned because emulation is quite inaccurate for this game - specifically, acceleration is completely different on emulator and the speed gained by boost pads is significantly higher than on console. As you can imagine, these issues mean it's impossible to compare console runs to emulated runs in any useful way, and the community decided to stick with console.
Also, using a Japanese cart is absolutely not a rule. The text is just so much faster that not switching to Japanese puts you at a significant disadvantage, so serious contenders will always choose to do so.
@joebykaeby Yep, the emulation of DKR being inaccurate is the main reason that we don't have leaderboards for it. Not only can it not compare to console runs at all, but even different emulators, as well as different settings within the same emulators can cause slight differences from player to player. Not to mention that one could easily play a modified version on an emulator. However, playing on the Japanese version actually has nothing to do with text speeds. All text speeds are the same on all versions. What Japanese is used for is exclusive glitches that are only on the Japanese version, like the more beneficial Wrong Warp results, and an Out of Bounds in Spaceport Alpha.
Idk if this is stupid sounding or not, but can't they just... make better emulators that are more accurate to the game?
Then have a rule if you want to play on emulator, you HAVE to use a specific one showing proof you're using it
@@o7_AP If an emulator was able to 100% recreate the variable framerate that is present on console gameplay then yes. But sadly that just isn't the case. Would be great for the community to grow if such an emulator existed, as it would be a lot more accessible for those that want to compete on the SRC leaderboards. Most emulators play DKR at a near 30fps with only occasional drops of framerate, whereas on console it can get as low as 12fps or 15fps, and in most cases is at near constant 20fps. Sometimes the game does play at 30fps but only in select areas where not much is loaded in.
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