Ferrari Claim Memorable One-Two | 1990 Mexico Grand Prix
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- Alain Prost and Nigel Mansell star in a Ferrari one-two at the Autodromo Hermanos Rodriguez
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See this is what people are forgetting, Prost IS a great driver. But now we live in the era where a group of people who where not even alive in 1994 are calling Prost out only because they saw the movie Senna...
Yeah, this was one of best Prost victories, if not the best.
BUT... you forgot to mention that in this season Prost had a car which was strong enough to fight against Senna throughout to year... and he lost the battle. Go watch Spa, Monza and Estoril and you'll get the point.
91' maybe few people remember but Ferrari wasn't worse than McLaren. It was just another massacre. Then Prost resigned in the second half of the season and ended fired...
Senna defeated Prost from 88 to 91, all seasons, but had 89' title took away by Ballestre and poor reliability in his car.
@@qinq2020 are you dumb ??? May I remind you that senna had to crash on purpose to win the title, this season prost and senna were not that equal... Senna had the power and the reliability
@Crixus Mauperthuis Exactly. Senna has a lot of fans because she was spectacular, but that doesn't mean she was efficient. Saving the distances, the same thing happens with Gilles Villeneuve, although Senna was much superior. But people are left with the spectacular rather than the efficiency. That added to the propaganda of movies like Senna, they make the legend surpass the person and people believe lies that are established as truth.
@@diegoadrianripani9400 senna much superior to Villeneuve, i don t think so
@@qinq2020 Prost won on points in 88 though and he won 89. 1990 Senna crashed into him to win and in 91' Prost had a terrible car.
Alain Prost, what a driver... legend
Mansells overtake was legendary!!
that was brave in the peraltada turn 17, and now that curve have his name in it !!!
The curve does not exist anymore, it has been homosexualized !
Madhav Sharma.
The overtake of Mansell by Prost was better, Masell would not have had to overtake Berger if he had not spun he would have been second to Prost without the drama.
@@barrierodliffe4155 Yeah Mansell would not have had to overtake Berger if he had not spun, but that does not neglect the fact that the overtake by Mansell on Berger is legendary in itself, on the outside of one of the most feared high speed corners back then, and on knackered tyres as well. Yes, I know Prost is a better driver but Mansell had his great moments and also quite a few moments of bad luck.
@@r.dekker858
While I hate to spoil it for Mansell fans, it has been said that Berger felt bad about the way he had got past Mansell and he did not put up much of a fight.
I wonder what all the bad luck Mansell had is meant to be, he was lucky to drive for the best teams so often, and I would say Prost had a lot more bad luck than Mansell.
high definition footage of a 27 year old race, this is just amazing. thank you.
You Mean 31 Year old :)
@@michaelschumacher3701 🤦🏽♂️
Senna was very fast on a lap, but definitely, Prost was relentless in race pace!
They are paying their life there.
Romain Grosjean and i wish i was dead
Shut Up!
Romain Grosjean Me too :(
Kevin will own you
Shut Up!
Seriously, there needs to be a Rush 2 with Senna and Prost.
Nate Lecarde No thanks, they'll just make Senna an angel and Prost the bad guy.
Carlos Teixeira nah they will do the justice this time. The Rush movie mostly doing their research accurate and the writer spend a lot of time with lauda so the story will be accurate. They will have to do the same to prost and he will deliver to the world what is the Senna documentary failed to do. Since this time its both side of the story nit one sided like the good but very biased documentary. Thry also could do Rush 3 with Rosberg and Hamilton. They grow up together, share a room as a kid, and the story goes on
rockzs74r Now that sounds really interesting
Nate Lecarde what about rush with 2007 season? Senna vs prost are 3 years and IMO is too long for a movie like rush
There was a lot legendary rivalries in F1, but Prost vs. Senna was hands down the best of them ! Movie on this would be mega-epic.
I remember this race very well. Alain Prost had started so far back you’d think he had no chance and then you watched as he progressed through the field. BBC coverage jumped live into the race in the final stages as Prost closed in on the top three if I recall correctly, swiftly dispensing Mansell and then took off after Senna. That pass must’ve been so sweet for him after the shenanigans of 1989. I was dancing out of my seat. IMHO the best ever F1 champion of my day. I never saw Alain put a bad move on anyone, ever.
Probably the best race of Prost career. He isn't known for great comebacks and overtakes but he was totally able to make it. With his usual "professorial" style
Without probably. The best race of Prost career.
MastaMS21 Kyalami 1982 is better. Started on pole, leading comfortably till he get a puncture, pits and rejoins a lap behind team mate Arnoux, regains the lap and took the win
Prost did have some very memorable drives and overtakes after being hit by other cars and pushed down the field that seem to get forgotten. He often had cars down on power yet managed to drive faster than anyone else.
Lol, the ignorance. Prost was know to not give a fuck about quali and set up his car for the race. He'd more than often start low then pass his opponents like it was nothing. Fucking millenial.
"and...and....AND MANSELL GOING ROUND THE OUTSIDE!!!! INCREDIBLE!!!!" - Murray Walker, Mexico GP 1990
Prost coming from 13th and overtaking them all including Mansell and Prost made it look so easy, he then set off after Senna and overtook him too to lead, a lead never relinquished, Mansell should have had a safe second place but he spun. Prost was the fastest driver on the track with no drama or exactly how it should be done, Senna wore his tyres out. It just shows that Prost could be very quick and smooth like few other drivers. This was not the only race where Prost was the fastest on the track or where he had to come from behind.
What is really impressive is that before the race he said to his team "I can win this race", they thought he was crazy.
Prost, Senna, Mansell The good time
Prost, what a legendary driver!
One of the professors finest. Starting 13th, he won by smart tyre management & watching the fuel consumption of the 12 cylinder Ferrari. Legend.
But mostly Prost won by being the fastest driver on the track. Prost had many great drives often in cars that should not win.
@@barrierodliffe4155 No, he won by being the smartest. Mansell was faster than Prost. Even when he cheated him in '90 they were even in 'fastest qualifying lap', so you know why Alain cheated. But in his combination as a smart politician and race driver he was probably better than Senna and definitely better than Mansell.
@@ostihpem
Prost was certainly smarter and he was faster than Mansell. Prost never cheated at all.
In qualifying Prost was faster in USA, Brazil, Monaco, Canada, Germany, Belgium, Italy, Spain and Japan.
So 9 races out of 16. In the races Prost was faster almost every race. Just look how much faster Prost wa in this race at Mexico.
@@barrierodliffe4155 So Prost lead Mansell 9:7 in fastest qualifying laps but because he had the better equipment. I think that's common knowledge today. It also makes sense considering Prost's knowledgeable record of being a 'behind the back' guy. Ask any driver of that period and they will tell you that Mansell had more speed and heart. Again, I think overall Prost had the better package, but also more luck.
This clearly shows that Prost is heavily underrated
Alain Prost. A genius behind the wheel. Super-smooth, super-fast. He could drive a car consistently faster probably better than any other driver of his generation. The only reason he's not placed on the same pedestal as Senna is...he's still alive. Sorry Senna fans. I have total respect for Senna's speed and commitment; and the Brazilian was the ultimate over 1 qualifying lap but... If I you wanted someone to help engineer/set-up the car and bring home more points, more consistently, Prost was the man. It's a shame the 'Senna' movie (good as it was) has coloured a younger generation's view of these two men. I saw them both drive in the flesh and they were BOTH great drivers.
knightm27 totally agree with you!!
couldn't say better. The Senna's movie has too much bias for the brazilian and makes Prost as the bad guy... Shame. I hope one day we could enjoy a documentary about the Professor's carreer which brings balance to this
What makes him being hated was that one incident. He deliberated threw the car on Senna and then ran to Balestra crying for the title. This is a fact.. there is no way not to hate that atitude
Mateus Hokari the fact is that Senna's block-pass attack was suicide and Prost warn him that he won't let him thru and closed the door. The Balestre's episode show us that Prost could only count on himself and not on his team to get the rules respected.
Senna's fans hate Prost for that but none of them hate Senna for what he did a year later in Suzuka..
On that occasion (I presume you're talking about Suzuka '89) Prost simply decided to 'do a Senna'. Historically, for the good of the team, when Senna had launched his car up the inside Prost had left racing room. Senna's tactic - as it had been since F3 (see the excellent Senna Vs Brundle movie) - was usually to launch his car up the inside and leave it up to the other driver whether they choose to have an accident or not. Prost had, by this moment, said 'no more' of the kowtowing to keep team harmony; the team had already stopped supporting him (see the story about Monza '89) and essentially told Ron Dennis that if Senna used the same tactic again he's not going to yield this time and the door will be slammed firmly closed (as Senna had done many times to many drivers). Prost deliberately DIDN'T go for pole and set his car up for race pace (he was demonstrably (almost 1 second) quicker than Senna in warm up), kept Senna in his dirty air and was planning his strategy for later in the race when Senna launched that famous pass attempt from a long way back. It looked so bungled by Prost as he simply wasn't used to using this kind of strong-arm tactics that Senna usually employed - in fact Keke Rosberg joked about that at the time! Senna was a warrior, Prost an artist. There's two sides to each story so let Prost tell you in his own words:
By now McLaren-Honda essentially worked as two different teams, which happened to operate out of the same pit. Once again, the two red and white cars were in front row, both its drivers in defiant mood, Senna knowing he had to win, Prost making it clear he'd be no pushover. "I told both the team and the press, 'There's no way I'm going to open the door to him any more.' We talked very often, you should know, about the first corner, the first lap, and Ron always said the important thing was that we shouldn't hit each other, we should think of the team. Well, as far as I was concerned, Senna thought about himself, and that was it. For example, at the start of the British Grand Prix that year, going into Copse, if I hadn't moved three or four metres out of the way we'd have hit each other, and both McLarens would have been out immediately. That sort of thing had happened too often; I had had enough."
"As for the accident between us at the chicane, yes, I know everybody thinks I did it on purpose. What I say is that I did not open the door, and that's it. I didn't want to finish the race like that - I'd led from the start, and I wanted to win it. I had a good car; I'd been very bad in qualifying, compared with Ayrton, and I concentrated entirely on the race. In the warm-up I was nearly a second quicker than him, and for the race itself I was quite confident, even when he started catching me. I didn't want him too close, obviously, but I wanted him close enough that he would hurt his tyres; my plan was then to pus hard over the last ten laps. As it was he tried to pass - and for me the way he did it was impossible, because he was going so much quicker than usual into the braking area."
"I couldn't believe he tried it on that lap, because, as we came up to the chicane, he was so far back. When you look in your mirrors, and a guy is 20 metres behind you, it's impossible to judge, and I didn't even realise he was trying to overtake me. But at the same time I thought, 'There's no way I'm going to leave him even a one-metre gap. No way'. I came off the throttle braked - and turned in."
Ferrari is the ferrari still. The most amazing and loved F1 team ever.
Welp
Prost the ever underrated Pilot.
Prost, Mansell and Senna - great three way rivalry over those years.
Yeah, fuck no. Prost and Senna were in a league of their own.
@@lethalchocobo1886 Nope.
That Ferrari was beautiful ✌️❤️ best f1 car ever and the noise from that v12 🎶🎵 pure music
The most beautiful car design in f1
Prost Should have won that championship!
"That few, including Prost, will ever forget." You're stating that Prost is among the few people who *will* forget his performance at the GP?
Prost, Mansell, Senna, Piquet, Berger, Patrese. That period had fantastic drivers.
"and Mansell goes round the outside"
Great Alain.
Excellent quality of the video footage. Smooth with zero interlacing artifacts. Having entire races of that quality would be spectacular!
zero is pushing it. you can clearly see it's de-interlaced. but it's really very clearn overall. pretty sure there are other filters applied too, some of the footage is just too colorful and clear to be "raw"
Yes, agreed. Zero might be a stretch, but still nice to see the old footage finally making its appearance
Luigi Mazzola was the Prost's race engineer in Ferrari. He said: "We were analyzing data, so Alain asked «Are this correct ?», «Yes.». Prost smiled and said: «Tomorrow we'll win»". :)
Sainz vs Hulk is gonna be a big thing.
John Jayson A big TING
Hulk is gonna be under pressure now. Just imagine how bad was Palmer.
nahh, Hulk is better than the arrogant of sainz
just when was sainz arrogant? ^^" im a Hulk fan but i srsly dont know what you are talking about
What the fuck are you talking about? Jeez!, people can say a lot of shit without sense on internet.
I actually watch this race from TV 1990 is the best year of F1
When F1 sounded like F1
Can you please stop with putting loud music over the engine noise?
Can you please stop moaning like Grosjean and appreciate the production value of these videos?
Bobster stfu
its hardly loud. If you don't like it go and watch the actual video of the cars in the 90s
Without the music you would hear the engine sounds are fake.
wait, do they actually fake the car sounds? seems kind of pointless to me...
Prost the best ever.
Dat overtake from Mansell.
Now THAT's a proper race car!
The year Prost finished just 5 points behind Senna with a Ferrari !
And then those kids who just happen to watch senna documentary last night claim alain prost is a bad driver who only cheats
Ikr, and people still say that Prost was a much inferior driver. I mean, seriously, the 1990 Ferrari was a piece of shit and nowhere near competitive, had the team any drivers other than the Mansell-Prost duo, they would have been even worse
F1 Greece i think about it as this way senna could make bad car seems good by driving it to its absolute limit and crazy dangerous style which excite the crowd. Prost meanwhile could make bad car seems good by developing the car through his input to the mechanic and by driving very efficiently and therefore conserve the fuel, tyres, etc. Which not as exciting for common spectators. That's why Senna is more loved by the crowds. Anyway both driver win the tittle with an overpowered car. Both failed without it
Im really sick of this 'won the title with the good car' arguement. Someone tell me, has there been any WDC so far whose car wasnt at least 2nd best on the grid? You just simply cannot clinch the title with a backmarker, but of course there is a reason one would be signed by the best teams.
Czékus Bence exactly that's my point you can't win the tittle with bad car. People says this driver is better than the other because he drive worse car. Everyone wants a better car if they could get one. And some driver know when to switch team because in the future that team will have a good car. There is no luck choosing the right team is also part of the ability
Good overtake on the outside for P2
That last overtake!
That was fucking brilliant!
That is one of the best moves ever made. The peraltada corner (Peralte means Camber) was very difficult to take flat out, Nigel not only does this, he passes Berger on the outside.
The most beautiful F1 GP...
What a race! Put the complete race here on UA-cam! I never asked for anything!
When Ferrari was Forza Ferrari
Aravind You know that the End of the 80s and beginning of the 90s were Ferraris worst times in their history, do you?
Ichigo Kurosaki Well 1989-1991 they weren't bad but yeah after 1992 they fall down
OsamabinHustlin Yeah but even if you didn't live at these times, a F1 fan who is truly interested should actually know stuff like this.
Do you even know what Forza Ferrari means
When Ferrari ballsed up their team management and denied Alain Prost another world title.
Prost il professore allievo di Lauda, una leggenda. E poi Mansell, matto scocciato che adoravo
F1 should really start going back/take inspiration from that era, fans would like it I think.
For Mexico 1990, Prost decided to prepare his car for the race rather than get the best qualifying result. So he did the qualifying with hard tyres and a half full fuel tank and got only the 13th position on the grid. This strategy payed off for the race as he got the best out of a nicely tuned Ferrari.
Feeel sad for senna. Miss you legend
Who cares? It was Alain's day.
His death created a myth around him, which made him a greater driver in the history than he actually was. So dont be sad
Don't be sad it's only a crap driver who died? Wtf?!?
Maurizio Arrivabene Give me one other driver who can go 1.4 seconds faster than his teammate in Monaco Qualifying, and then we'll talk about Senna "not being so great"
yoshiboy619 Maurizio didn't say that so calm down.
Back then when f1 was still great
Great footage, great memories 👍
whatever Kid, you were barely a twinkle in your Daddy's eye at the time.
@@DuncanCunningham why so mad lmao
Great quality footage!
And then those kids who just happen to watch senna documentary last night claim alain prost is a bad driver who only cheats
rockzs74r yeah, they forget suzuka 90, senna fans make brazilian fans look bad, Senna was great but his fans are one of the worse, I say this as a brazilian
rockzs74r do not forget that BS narrative about balestre helping prost just because they were both french, even though balestre didn't even like prost
No, I think he did, it was Prost who didn't really like Balestre; he dicked around with JMB a lot.
If he is a bad driver or not, I dont know. But I cannot unsee how great of a bad person he is. That accident in Japan was ridiculous, and costed not only the title for senna but also months nor beeing able to drive. Only to see next year the vast majority of drivers agreeing he was right in the pre race breafing.
balestre in fact was not a friend of any driver
Upload this race if you can! The video quality looks amazing!
Only Prost was able to do this.
Driving/ setup/strategy skills... All in one.
Senna, Berger, Mansell, Prost, those were the days...
Gerhard Berger will always be one of my favorites
Too bad he went back to Ferrari in 1993 instead to join Williams (instead of Damon Hill). He surely would of won the Championship maybe in 1993 but at least in 1994 because he was at least as good as Hill at the time.
I believe in Ferrari. Forever and ever.
God those cars were gorgeous!
They were calling him profesor for a reason. This video is beautiful example why!
Disponibiliza no site esses arquivos da formula 1, com essa qualidade de imagem todos os fans vão adorar reviver esses momentos mágicos que a formula um um dia proporcionou : D
Still my favourite ever Grand Prix.
"You can't afford it pal, it's a FERRARI"
La grande époque !!! Ca, c'était la F1 !
Wow what a drive!
Prost-Mansell, probably the strongest pairing Ferrari ever had. If they just had a car worthy of these names...
1:43 Damn she is cute
Incoming the “incoming fake driver accounts” accounts.
Kenneth Tang incoming the "incoming the "incoming fake drivers accounts" accounts" accounts
Incoming the “incoming the “incoming the “incoming fake driver accounts” accounts” accounts” accounts
The fish out of water ...I'm getting lost in recursion 😂
Before Mansell pass Berger, at some point Mansell spin on his own (you forget that part)
Correct. Nigel was setting lap times to chase Prost I believe and then he spun.
That 3 way chase was magnificent.
I wish there was a F1 Network, an online platform where we could watch all races and seasons in history, like the WWE Network. I would definitively love that, i'd like to know much more about F1s past and legends
there is a F1 Latin America channel, full of re-runs of old classics.
Best team of all time
YES! FORZA FERRARI
Prost the most underrated champion
I don't think he was under-rated. There's a reason he was called the professor - a title of respect.
Sanjay Joseph fair enough
gamingfreakplus Imagin me if Prost was the one killed instead of Senna. Prost will likely be on Par with Senna's level of recognition worldwide nowadays.
i think is Piquet the most underrrated champion.
gamingfreakplus second most underrated, piquet is the first
Forza Ferrari
アルベルトアスカリ The great Alberto Ascari
can we get full race from old days with this quality? please liberty i started watching F1 when i was 13 now i am 37...
Prost was the smart one.
and they say prost isn't a legend.....
Nobody says it. Are you crazy?
Lenhador Sem Pudor bunch of kids actually says this. Rule number one to be the new cool guy on f1 community is Hate prost, hate Schumacher, hate every recent driver, late 80s early 90s is the best, and most importantly is to watch the Senna documentary which is the guideline to become number 1 f1 fan
rockzs74r pretty accurate
Prost is the GOAT IMO.
underated legend
Pure racing.
iNOLVIDABLE CARRERA DONDE FUI TESTIGO DE LA HAZAÑA FERRARI
Heritage racing!
This footage looks surprisingly good for 1990
Only such cars can make Legends.
I saw this I was 22 then my 6th year of watching gp racing
I love you Liberty Media !
Mansells move on Berger, was Best F1 overtake in modern times, real guts vs glory move.
People tend to forget that Prost was a great driver. He was very much like Lauda in his sense of calculated drive. Prost might not have the raw blistering aggressive pace of Senna but Prost had great consistency which lead to him to all those WCs & WC fights.
In this race Prost was the fastest, he overtook Berger, Mansell and Senna and a number of other drivers to lead the race and none of them could stay with him. Prost set over twice as many fastest laps than Senna.
legends
Still remember that day I was starring at Arton in his McLaren at the starting grit 👋
Prost is amazing driver, I love Senna more than him but Prost was more talented definitely.
Good old times.
Waiting for the comments to say "back when the cars sound good". We can't change anything
I dont care about the sound but there back then no DRS, no dirty air, just pure hard racing.
Nihal Mishra these guys have zero competition as well short clip maybe shown they are actually cool but the truth is the senna prost era of f1 is one of the most boring time in history if you really look at the stats
rockzs74r I dont need to look at stats I watch F1 since summer of 1985, those were indeed the glory days
Back when the cars sounds good :(
Back when the cars looked and sounded amazing and they most definitely can change it.
This Mexico track was better than currently
Incoming fake driver accounts for
for? Didn't mean 2 put that
lewis hamilton the God of F1 Win the championship this race ok
lewis hamilton the God of F1 Nice Photo and do u remember me from the Italian gp circuit guide that's the vid 3 scumbags were dissy u but I will always♥ Hamilton
Lewis 41 lol
Keiran George Wat m8?
Podium: Suddenly in need of a smoke, don't know why...
Marlboro everywhere
goodyear!
Not a good Year, but I think it was a best moment of Ferrari in Prost and Mansell's era.
1:43 ufff😍😘
Aarav A Ew
shes ugly, are you ok? i recommend a medical check up
enough ugly to appear on international TV then and in an F1 official video 27 years later. Yeah of course.
+Ariff Dude get a pair of glasses, or a multicolor flag
no 1 is ugly
Ayrton Says: BONO, PNEUS JÁ ERAM!
One of the best race in F1 history.
641/2 is the most beautiful F1 machine ever made.
Overtake by Mansell from outside against Berger was so fantastic.
No one else can do like that even Senna.
Beautiful machine ＋enthusiastic race ≒invincible.
Mansell,the "lion".
when F1 was exciting
and now they drive like Robots, look at the damn work at the steering wheel.. this was fucking racing, wow.
Carreron del Profesor Alain Prost después de Arrancar en la Treceava Pocision y Remontar asta Rebasar A prácticamente Todos y Ganar la Carrera
The best race of Prost
One of many great drives by the professor.