The 10 weirdest tracks F1 has raced on

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  • Опубліковано 15 тра 2024
  • Formula 1's decision to add the 'Bahrain Outer' circuit to the 2020 calendar means we have a new addition to the list of strange layouts to have hosted an F1 race. While descriptions of the circuit as an 'almost oval' are wide of the mark, F1 does have a couple of ovals in its distant history - plus a host of other bizarre tracks that we've revisited for this video. Edd Straw is your guide through some of the stranger chapters in F1 history.
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  • @brunocarneiro107
    @brunocarneiro107 3 роки тому +5809

    "Curiously", the Nordschleife was entirely man-made? As opposed to, what... Naturally occurring racing circuits?

    • @brunocarneiro107
      @brunocarneiro107 3 роки тому +498

      @@kuckoo9036 Yeah, I got the idea. I was just taking the piss

    • @yeanisch
      @yeanisch 3 роки тому +812

      "And over there, you can see a wild racing circuit in his natural habitat"

    • @mrblackpill4977
      @mrblackpill4977 3 роки тому +287

      WRC: let me introduce myself

    • @thomasroth84
      @thomasroth84 3 роки тому +101

      The Nurburgring lies in a weak economic area of Germany and it's construction was a government program to get people into employment

    • @skyscall
      @skyscall 3 роки тому +46

      Naturally-occuring racing circuits? Sounds like Baja

  • @cornevangulik6166
    @cornevangulik6166 3 роки тому +3977

    You know Pescara was dangerous to drive when Enzo Ferrari, a guy known for replacing passed away drivers in a heartbeat, refused to let his drivers race here.

    • @plazasta
      @plazasta 3 роки тому +127

      wasn't the reason to protest something happening in Italy at the time? I don't think it was related to how dangerous the track was, I heard that was just a myth

    • @afoxwithahat7846
      @afoxwithahat7846 3 роки тому +51

      He'd rather do this because he knew peoples would surely die in his cars again

    • @welch1284
      @welch1284 3 роки тому +16

      Lol i live near Pescara

    • @GTsunnyD
      @GTsunnyD 3 роки тому +159

      What was he supposed to do? Not replace a deceased driver?

    • @codyjarvis
      @codyjarvis 3 роки тому +70

      GT Sunny D the point was the coldness behind it and the fact he made no attempt to improve safety

  • @Larry
    @Larry 3 роки тому +1292

    Love the use of the PS1 Formula 1 games to show older tracks! Quite fascinating they're more a historical description nowadays.

    • @caprakiwi6201
      @caprakiwi6201 3 роки тому +13

      Hello you, love your content.

    • @ComputerBladet
      @ComputerBladet 2 роки тому +6

      Wonder if there are games that let us drive modern cars on these circuits

    • @Myrvold
      @Myrvold 2 роки тому +10

      @@ComputerBladet rFactor 1 have quite a lot of these odd tracks. Might be the closest you can get. Assetto Corsa, while having a great modding scene, doesn't have the amount of obscurity as rF1 has.

    • @gopher6532
      @gopher6532 2 роки тому +4

      @@ComputerBladet There are! Assetto Corsa has mods where you can do it

    • @drifter402
      @drifter402 2 роки тому +4

      I don't know why they don't just put old tracks in the games. Perhaps it would give the Devs too much to do.

  • @ClemensAlive
    @ClemensAlive 3 роки тому +2746

    The straights Avus is now the main enterance by highway to Berlin :)
    You can even see the old stands next to it.

    • @Leon-pb4nt
      @Leon-pb4nt 3 роки тому +26

      Wusste nicht, dass du F1 Fan bist. 👀

    • @SirUnleashedFTW
      @SirUnleashedFTW 3 роки тому +15

      Main entrance ? Berlin has 6 Autobah-Connections, is it the most used ? I would like to know

    • @IguitarVreakI
      @IguitarVreakI 3 роки тому +55

      @@SirUnleashedFTW One of the most important german Autobahn, the "A2", which connects west and east germany leads into the Berliner Ring "A10" . If you drive to Berlin from anywhere west of Berlin there's a good chance you'll take this route and come by the old Avus track.

    • @felixw19
      @felixw19 3 роки тому +1

      @@Leon-pb4nt naja er hat mal ein Lets Play zu Motorsport Manager gemacht

    • @michi8652
      @michi8652 3 роки тому +4

      Clemens? Hätte nicht gedacht dass ich dich hier wiedersehe haha

  • @vatsaldvora
    @vatsaldvora 3 роки тому +2622

    The Old Hockenheim was also pretty challenging

    • @Kale050
      @Kale050 3 роки тому +142

      they ruined hockenheim

    • @felid.769
      @felid.769 3 роки тому +129

      It wasn't. Almost flat out for all the track and only a couple of chicanes in the fast section, the current configuration is harder, more technical and produces better racing.

    • @andymb601
      @andymb601 3 роки тому +19

      @@Kale050 I agree, but there wasn't much choice unfortunately

    • @jbernfinger5494
      @jbernfinger5494 3 роки тому +14

      @@felid.769 sooo does it make it also an almost oval as well? I mean the old version

    • @TheSt1092
      @TheSt1092 3 роки тому +82

      @@felid.769 Wrong! People only say that because any overtakes in the forest were often unseen by spectators It wasn't the best for spectators but the racing was always competitive and when it rained it got really fun because the plethora of trees in the forest meant the track often would get fully wet even in heavy rain . The stadium section was also a challenge when teams ran lower downforce wings with drivers fighting the car to keep the car on track in qualifying.

  • @elsaerika3764
    @elsaerika3764 3 роки тому +220

    I live in Pescara, we do still have a whole street named after the Formula One Grand Prix. It's called "Via del Circuito" -

  • @tIhIngan
    @tIhIngan 3 роки тому +451

    I am glad to see Monaco on the list. Everybody seems afraid to step out of line and criticize the sheer lunacy of Monaco as a modern GP.

    • @TheInkPitOx
      @TheInkPitOx 2 роки тому +18

      I've seen plenty of people on Reddit asking F1 to drop it.

    • @Joe_Okey
      @Joe_Okey 2 роки тому +20

      It has always been my favorite Grand Prix on the schedule. I would hate to see it go, but it would be very doubtful that they would ever drop it from the schedule.

    • @TheInkPitOx
      @TheInkPitOx 2 роки тому +6

      @@Joe_Okey I am sorry, but I found your second sentence confusing.

    • @Joe_Okey
      @Joe_Okey 2 роки тому +18

      @@TheInkPitOx I meant that if they ever dropped it from the schedule, I would be unhappy about it. Also, I doubt whether they ever would remove it as it has become such a huge part of F1 racing now.

    • @TheInkPitOx
      @TheInkPitOx 2 роки тому +2

      @@Joe_Okey Ok

  • @EvryTime
    @EvryTime 3 роки тому +70

    I am pleased that Monaco was on the list.
    And the quote of "Like riding a bicycle around my apartment." Seems very fitting.

  • @gigadonis8684
    @gigadonis8684 3 роки тому +1240

    "The final two uses of the oval were primarily used to help Ferrari win"
    O, how the tables have turned

    • @Tommy2shoe811
      @Tommy2shoe811 3 роки тому +23

      Katsuki Bakugou Oh those days will be back eventually, guaranteed. F1 was bending over backwards for Ferrari up until about 10yrs ago. Since the new ownership took over Ferrari has been constantly pushing the limits and its backfired causing the them to not have the greatest relationship well if Ferrari continues to not be able to manipulate they’ll start doing their usually deal where they threaten to leave which could cause the new owners to appease them (tho I doubt it bc in America it’s always been viewed as distasteful how much Ferrari has gotten away with and with their “favoritism” treatment by always being the beneficiary of F1’s corruption).

    • @stevenrobinson3725
      @stevenrobinson3725 3 роки тому +3

      Just like how party modes have just been banned when ferrari have a rubbish engine and are now struggling to keep up. Ferrari International Aid strikes again

    • @jeremyj.5687
      @jeremyj.5687 3 роки тому +1

      Nice catch, this one :D

    • @aaker256
      @aaker256 3 роки тому +3

      @@Tommy2shoe811 oh yeah, its the fia who has an eye for ferrari, definitely not ferraris management or staff that has limited them, and they wont threaten to leave the sport because its in their dna.

    • @aaker256
      @aaker256 3 роки тому +2

      @@stevenrobinson3725 they were banned to see if they could slow mercedes. try looking at their pace for once, and youll know what i mean.

  • @oswaldopantojarodrigues5721
    @oswaldopantojarodrigues5721 3 роки тому +515

    AVUS is a Nice track...2 drs zones and 1 hairpin...perfect for overtakes

    • @robertgoraieb9838
      @robertgoraieb9838 3 роки тому +36

      In other words, more merc domination 😂😂

    • @blockbusterbpl9991
      @blockbusterbpl9991 3 роки тому +28

      And Ferrari would probably be all the way at the back and out of DRS range of any cars in front by the time DRS is enabled

    • @fedlyn9053
      @fedlyn9053 3 роки тому +10

      the amount of smoke that will be blown from the engines could be more dangerous than covid-19

    • @bakedalaskax
      @bakedalaskax 3 роки тому +9

      Ferrari with the cheaty engine probably would have loved that place 😅🤣😂

    • @wissamsaade3323
      @wissamsaade3323 3 роки тому

      Lol

  • @gregmiller7123
    @gregmiller7123 2 роки тому +71

    I was there at the 1984 Dallas Grand Prix and it was a train wreck! As mentioned, the track was coming apart but they were also having to weld down drains and manhole covers after they came up. Doing something outdoors in Dallas in July is never a pleasant experience and even as a resident it was hotter than Hades that weekend. But my strongest memory was watching Nigel Mansell getting out of his car and trying to push it across the finish line before collapsing from heat exhaustion!

    • @TxGambler77
      @TxGambler77 2 роки тому +4

      I've lived in DFW my entire life. I am 44 and have vague memories of seeing the advertisements for the race. For the longest time, i thought it went through downtown, but driving the areas today that were used as part of the circuit are baffling knowing all the potholes that are there!

  • @phouleSk8s
    @phouleSk8s 3 роки тому +55

    I actually really like the idea of combined monza. I think it would be an awesome track for modern f1. Nothing like actually going flat out for 30 or so laps.

  • @SiVlog1989
    @SiVlog1989 3 роки тому +50

    It felt like I was one of the few who liked the Valencia Street Track. Using the old Fish Market buildings for the pit and paddock complex was imaginative, the swing Bridge was something that got engineers thinking about the transition from one section to another and the third sector (where the drivers were confronted with seemingly ever faster curves inches away from the buildings surrounding it) was great to watch. In one of the GP2 races in 2008, two of the championship contenders that year, Giorgio Pantano and Bruno Senna, ran out of fuel in the run up to the finish

    • @vyasponnuri3375
      @vyasponnuri3375 3 роки тому +2

      Nah you ain't the only one, it's actually a good track

    • @SiVlog1989
      @SiVlog1989 3 роки тому +2

      @@vyasponnuri3375 what's your favourite part of the layout?

    • @vyasponnuri3375
      @vyasponnuri3375 3 роки тому +1

      @@SiVlog1989 actually the whole track

    • @memphisdaniels3218
      @memphisdaniels3218 Рік тому +1

      Yeah I liked it too

    • @henryhallam5270
      @henryhallam5270 2 місяці тому

      In my opinion it creates some of the best racing that there is.

  • @taufiqutomo
    @taufiqutomo 3 роки тому +175

    Virgin F1 strange circuits:
    An oval
    A circuit with a petrol station
    Circuits with ugly layouts
    A car park
    Overly long circuits
    Chad Indycar strange circuits
    A Circuit that go over railway crossings
    A hillclimb
    An airport
    An oval with right hand turn
    Explicitly ignoring COTA track limits
    And, both series did race on a circuit that goes through a baseball stadium.

    • @botigamer9011
      @botigamer9011 3 роки тому +13

      The modern Mexico track goes through a former baseball stadium, so in behalf of all Mexicans....
      Dude, uncool

    • @gamerageandhobbyrcdu
      @gamerageandhobbyrcdu 3 роки тому +2

      When did Indycar use a hillclimb

    • @taufiqutomo
      @taufiqutomo 3 роки тому +13

      @@gamerageandhobbyrcdu Back in the 60s they ran non-championship races at the Pikes Peak hillclimb.

    • @botigamer9011
      @botigamer9011 3 роки тому +4

      @@gamerageandhobbyrcdu that sounds like an absolute nightmare

    • @st1220
      @st1220 3 роки тому +2

      @@botigamer9011 oversimplifed reference

  • @elkano2430
    @elkano2430 3 роки тому +24

    Never forget the Montjuic circuit in Barcelona. A relatively short track built on a mountain, like a fast Monaco but steep as hell.

  • @eliastooicey
    @eliastooicey 3 роки тому +32

    There was a Santiago GP in 1950, the circuit layout was a triangle, but wasn´t a race for the championships points.

  • @LesGrosPiedsDeDeejay
    @LesGrosPiedsDeDeejay 3 роки тому +473

    No Charade ?
    That track was mad it was on a mountain there were volcanics gravels everywhere and it was nearly 11km long

    • @KyleP133
      @KyleP133 3 роки тому +70

      You must have gotten lost, they said weird tracks, not freaking amazing tracks. :D

    • @stenovitz
      @stenovitz 3 роки тому +32

      The historic Charade was 8K. The modern Charade is just below 4K, but still a heck of fun to drive.

    • @sampo1628
      @sampo1628 3 роки тому +7

      Montjuic as well

    • @malibuu666
      @malibuu666 3 роки тому +6

      bremgarten

    • @Ahsan-pm3nj
      @Ahsan-pm3nj 3 роки тому +11

      No wonder people call it “The French Nurburgring”.

  • @simon0674
    @simon0674 3 роки тому +291

    I miss the old Hockenheim. blasting through the forest

    • @peterdaviesracing
      @peterdaviesracing 3 роки тому +6

      @dein Pech mein Glueck
      You mean... pre-broadcast times?

    • @wissamsaade3323
      @wissamsaade3323 3 роки тому

      Same

    • @elkano2430
      @elkano2430 3 роки тому +2

      I don't think you'd miss it anymore if you got to see what a race there today would look like.

    • @Ariespradana13
      @Ariespradana13 3 роки тому +17

      Old Hockenhein require :
      20% Driving Skill
      80% Engine Power/Reliability

    • @peterdaviesracing
      @peterdaviesracing 3 роки тому +1

      @dein Pech mein Glueck
      That's why I asked if you mean pre-broadcast. Because by the time the races were shown on TV, there were tv cameras around the track and the race shown on big screens. So unless the grandstand at the first chicane(I think the only grandstand for spectators in the forest) didn't have one, you could see everything happening.

  • @gordonicus4637
    @gordonicus4637 2 роки тому +50

    Absolutely agree that Monaco is a weird track, especially today, where the cars struggle to even turn around some of the bends...

  • @PescaraProductions
    @PescaraProductions 3 роки тому +198

    Pescara made the Nordschliefe look like the Brands Hatch Indy layout

    • @1mariomaniac
      @1mariomaniac 3 роки тому +21

      I believe WTF1 said something similar, something along the lines of "Pescara is so insane that it makes the Nordschleife look like Shanghai!"

    • @23GreyFox
      @23GreyFox 3 роки тому +2

      That's why it's gone for good.

    • @mortenfrosthansen84
      @mortenfrosthansen84 2 роки тому +2

      Brands Hatch has claimed more fatal crashes, then most of tracks of today's season. With 56 fatalities, during races..
      Spa (which was a embarrassing show this year) is also high on the list.
      As is Monza..

  • @whassupg89
    @whassupg89 3 роки тому +538

    Love the PS1 footage

    • @AJZulu
      @AJZulu 3 роки тому +3

      I know the game. the EXACT one.

    • @jorge8596
      @jorge8596 3 роки тому +2

      @@Catcrumbs probably F1 94 if it exists

    • @peterdaviesracing
      @peterdaviesracing 3 роки тому +11

      @@jorge8596
      You mean Psygnosis' first F1 game? It was only called that and released in 1996, but featured the 1995 season.

    • @LouisTheSEGANerd
      @LouisTheSEGANerd 3 роки тому +6

      @@Catcrumbs it was 'formula 1' by psygnosis on ps1. It was from the 1995 season but the canada track modifications were still in place that year...

    • @LouisTheSEGANerd
      @LouisTheSEGANerd 3 роки тому +1

      @@jorge8596 they were showing 'formula 1' by psygnosis on the PS1 which is from the 1995 season although Geoff Crammond Grand Prix 2 on PC follows the 1994 season...

  • @blist8329
    @blist8329 3 роки тому +207

    I would love to have that configuration of Monza in almost any racing game that shit looks fire

  • @mattheworvillefirdauzi5046
    @mattheworvillefirdauzi5046 3 роки тому +1251

    Today’s Ferrari would lap Avus slower than cars did in the 50s

    • @georgethomson2797
      @georgethomson2797 3 роки тому +14

      Yeah I mean p-17

    • @cyclonicleo
      @cyclonicleo 3 роки тому +5

      yikes, savage!

    • @vandecayear10
      @vandecayear10 3 роки тому +40

      Lucky there was no crowd at monza today... Would have been a riot.

    • @flashpeter625
      @flashpeter625 3 роки тому +63

      You are joking, but in the late 1930's streamliners were passing each other at 380km/h on Avus, and no one knows what their top speed in slipstream was, because they could only measure speed by timing a section of the track.

    • @Pilsnor
      @Pilsnor 3 роки тому +4

      That just make it even funnier, but i hope Ferrari gets well soon.

  • @hecksters423
    @hecksters423 3 роки тому +140

    7:31
    *Meanwhile, from a shed in the middle of the English rural areas*
    "Hey guys, Sheddie Irvine here."

    • @mattpotter8725
      @mattpotter8725 3 роки тому +1

      Except Eddie Irvine isn't English!!!

    • @malthuswasright
      @malthuswasright 3 роки тому +21

      @@mattpotter8725 He didn't say Eddie. He said Sheddie. Who IS English.

    • @belagajdan
      @belagajdan 3 роки тому +8

      I understood that referrance

    • @galarianmike283
      @galarianmike283 3 роки тому +6

      I almost knew someone would mention the shed boi

    • @4plus4equalsmoo
      @4plus4equalsmoo 3 роки тому +5

      shack villeneuve

  • @oswaldopantojarodrigues5721
    @oswaldopantojarodrigues5721 3 роки тому +348

    Monza combined is perfect to be used by a test track

    • @Arthurzeiro
      @Arthurzeiro 3 роки тому +40

      That banking at high speeds would shake the cars apart.

    • @ramiabouchakra2726
      @ramiabouchakra2726 3 роки тому +32

      *Indi 2005 flashbacks*

    • @nuhomusic9343
      @nuhomusic9343 3 роки тому +11

      @@Arthurzeiro Pirelli need to up their game

    • @vect9r
      @vect9r 3 роки тому +12

      well it certainly is fun to drive in a sim, that's for sure

    • @Ahsan-pm3nj
      @Ahsan-pm3nj 3 роки тому +11

      ArthurAlcantara they need to fix the banking to make that suitable. If they fixed that, maybe we’ll also see Indycar at Monza one day.

  • @EpicToastie
    @EpicToastie 3 роки тому +540

    Was it only me that LOVED Valencia??? Especially in the F1 games

    • @sadakoplushie
      @sadakoplushie 3 роки тому +56

      Yeah, valencia was awesome

    • @loord617
      @loord617 3 роки тому +21

      European GP was awseome

    • @CostanTheOne
      @CostanTheOne 3 роки тому +4

      No

    • @RaldoBot
      @RaldoBot 3 роки тому +9

      I mean I Guess it’s just ok it feels a little forgettable

    • @kaMosGO
      @kaMosGO 3 роки тому +10

      The races, except the one Fernando won, were very boring. To drive on a circuit on which you cant overtake with cars which are very difficult to overtake with, is just dumb

  • @VodkaHellstorm
    @VodkaHellstorm 3 роки тому +62

    Monaco is still one of my top 5 tracks on the calendar. I wish we could have smaller cars that could compete a bit more around there, but I love the layout, the visual of cars flying around the circuit, and I enjoy that there's at least one track on the calendar that isn't dominated by who has the best engine, and where your pit stops really do mean something.

    • @VodkaHellstorm
      @VodkaHellstorm 3 роки тому +1

      @Gary Garratt There is a spectacle to the whole weekend that I hope we never lose, as well as a storied history that in my opinion, is worth returning to every year for that alone. It clearly still means something to the drivers too, if Danny Ric's Monaco Crusade is anything to go by.

    • @todortodorov940
      @todortodorov940 2 роки тому +2

      Monaco is lifting F1 racing from just driving a car on an asfalt track to giving the race a beauty, a soul and a human touch.

    • @biketheperson6919
      @biketheperson6919 2 роки тому +3

      Formula E cars around there are really cool to watch. Certainly more exciting than F1

    • @VodkaHellstorm
      @VodkaHellstorm 2 роки тому +1

      @@biketheperson6919 Yeah the FE race there at the full circuit was fuckin pure fire.

    • @JesseLeeHumphry
      @JesseLeeHumphry 2 роки тому +3

      If the track was wider, I would agree with this idea. As it stands, qualifying is a substitute for race day, in most cases, and the majority of the overtaking happens during the pit cycle.
      Azerbaijan is a much better road circuit imo because there's still a few decent places to overtake that aren't on the straights, and it doesn't feel like you're trying to rotate the car while standing still.

  • @patricktho6546
    @patricktho6546 3 роки тому +9

    Jimmy Broadbend did that in a Sim.
    Modern F1 car at the Nordschleife.
    He beat his time set by the 919 Evo with DRS on the back straight.

  • @lucasisover9000
    @lucasisover9000 3 роки тому +109

    The old monaco configuration is even more silly, they actually had a ramp on the circut lmao

    • @skyscall
      @skyscall 3 роки тому +24

      And cars could literally fall straight into the harbor

    • @deeznoots6241
      @deeznoots6241 3 роки тому +24

      The old Spa circuit had a high speed kink between two houses so if drivers crashed there they would likely kill several people.

    • @WalintHUN
      @WalintHUN 3 роки тому +15

      ​@@skyscall theres still a point where in case rescuers in scuba gear standby there

    • @drifter402
      @drifter402 2 роки тому

      And he didn't mention that?

    • @spunkwinkle
      @spunkwinkle 2 роки тому +1

      And one year a number of cars were literally knocked out of the race when a large wave broke on the circuit and made it too wet!

  • @Rosario_Verano
    @Rosario_Verano 3 роки тому +1260

    Avus and Monza on steroids need to come back. Slipstream fests are a proven recipe in today's F1.

    • @Roi8Arachnide
      @Roi8Arachnide 3 роки тому +110

      renault's dream

    • @adammee3283
      @adammee3283 3 роки тому +154

      Ferrari’s nightmare

    • @BlueFlagAlpha
      @BlueFlagAlpha 3 роки тому +19

      Haas nightmare

    • @michiadams
      @michiadams 3 роки тому +34

      Avus doesn't exist anymore, they stopped racing there after a death in Dtm in the 90's

    • @derLenno
      @derLenno 3 роки тому +85

      @@michiadams AVUS still is one of the main motorways to get into the South of Berlin. It's a simple, straight 10km road. The banking is gone, but it's still very much usable. Source: I've been on the AVUS every day I drove to university.

  • @StudioVRM
    @StudioVRM 3 роки тому +3

    Good point about Monaco. Just because we're used to a huge party followed by a crash strewn parade a narrow coastal road, it doesn't make it any less strange on a modern F1 calendar.

  • @civicdriver2466
    @civicdriver2466 3 роки тому +25

    I miss Mosport, now called Canadian Tire Motorsports Park... I live 20 minutes away and would love to see it live!

    • @VaporpireWinkleschmidt
      @VaporpireWinkleschmidt 3 роки тому +2

      There will never ne an F1 race there again, but I'd love to see IndyCar go there. Can't be more dangerous than a street circuit.

  • @jiggmin1234
    @jiggmin1234 3 роки тому +59

    Well, even though we have yet to race there I would say the Vietnam street circuit is a bizare circuit to look at when viewing the map.

    • @ryanfrancis5423
      @ryanfrancis5423 3 роки тому

      Yes yes. Truly weird track.

    • @w3ghe711
      @w3ghe711 3 роки тому +4

      I freaking hate that track in F1 2020

    • @David_Theisen
      @David_Theisen 3 роки тому

      The proposed newer track in Miami looks wildly different to say the least!! wonder what the drivers will think of it

  • @JessPlaysGames547
    @JessPlaysGames547 3 роки тому +229

    I think Avus is the weirdest one

    • @avus-kw2f213
      @avus-kw2f213 3 роки тому +7

      NO AVUS is the best TRACK in the world all circuit should be based off it

    • @StuckInnerRut
      @StuckInnerRut 3 роки тому +5

      Miami's proposed F1 track seems to have taken some inspiration from it. Viet Nam also.

    • @thomas316
      @thomas316 3 роки тому

      Racing went on until the late 1990s.

    • @shoukonya4257
      @shoukonya4257 3 роки тому +3

      avus kinda looks like luigi's circuit from mario kart :P

    • @juliana.lymond2622
      @juliana.lymond2622 2 роки тому +1

      @@shoukonya4257 Yeah It Kind Looks Like Luigi's Circuit From Mario Kart 64.

  • @harveybritland3112
    @harveybritland3112 3 роки тому +15

    I quite enjoyed Valencia tbf, it was good fun to race on in the old f1 2009 game

  • @mariusbagd
    @mariusbagd 3 роки тому +23

    I think you missed the old Spa circuit. Amazingly fast and dangerous.

    • @hansgrueber8169
      @hansgrueber8169 3 роки тому +1

      and long, 15 km.

    • @missouriresole4726
      @missouriresole4726 3 роки тому

      Still the best track

    • @jacobmulder3960
      @jacobmulder3960 2 роки тому +1

      The remark about the sharp left turn at Eau Rouge, that was mentioned as "Used only once", was not entirely correct. In the pre-WWII layout (30's) the cars would make a sharp left turn at Eau Rouge to go up to 'L'Ancienne Douane' (a hairpin turn that is still there) and then further up to Kemmel straight. ;)

  • @LonMoer
    @LonMoer 3 роки тому +8

    The high banks on the old Monza oval is very steep, probably 70*+ at the top.
    Impossible to stand on without holding onto the Armco barrier.

  • @danericardo6148
    @danericardo6148 3 роки тому +89

    3:58 Those 1994 changes really ruined Estoril 😬

    • @AlonsoRules
      @AlonsoRules 3 роки тому +6

      That chicane was actually built for the bikes a year earlier but no-one talks about that

    • @npc310177
      @npc310177 3 роки тому +1

      Most of the changes to tracks forced by the FIA after Senna & Ratzenbergers deaths ruined tracks. Tamburello didnt need a chicane, it needed a gravel trap and a tyre wall. Same goes for the 2nd to last corner at Barcelona. Those temporary tyre chicanes were a knee jerk reaction, but one that was understandable at the time.

    • @n4s117
      @n4s117 3 роки тому

      @@npc310177 Isn't the issue with Tamburello that there's nowhere to extend the run-off - unless you want to end up in the river.

    • @yahow9297
      @yahow9297 2 роки тому

      @@npc310177 Tamburello obviously needed a chicane, no question there.

  • @eddyb1596
    @eddyb1596 3 роки тому +4

    Monaco is absolutely insane in an awesome sort've way. Having the fastest racing cars in the world flying around the right streets of a crowded city is so crazy.
    Vegas just makes so much sense in a 1980s Las Vegas sort've way.

    • @awordabout...3061
      @awordabout...3061 2 роки тому

      Everyone has to go there one day, it must be staggering to be there in person watching the cars fly by at nearly two hundred miles an hour down the main straight...

  • @Midaspl
    @Midaspl 3 роки тому +15

    7:01 a guy in the background holding a tree from falling.

  • @ianvincent5069
    @ianvincent5069 3 роки тому +82

    Valencia wouldn't have been nearly as weird if there wasn't a perfectly good circuit in valencia that they ignored

  • @samdekker90
    @samdekker90 2 роки тому +7

    I love the idea of the old Monza layout - a kind of hybrid between traditional course and American oval. Imagine if they could modernise it, with a proper barrier separating the two lanes on the main straight, and an Indy/Nascar style barrier and catch fence on the oval section.
    Nothing like it will ever happen, but we can dream.

    • @Anoano
      @Anoano 2 роки тому +2

      Even after the safety concern, the practical problem with the circuit crossing over itself in de driving direction is that it results in way too many right corners, especially with the old Ascari. The circuit in the video has 6 very long right turns and only 1 left kink. It would be near impossible with the modern tyres to race there due to wear.

  • @SolidSonicTH
    @SolidSonicTH 3 роки тому +2

    Thank you for including Monaco. Most famous race in F1 yet is the literal opposite of the kind of track you'd put these cars on.

    • @magiclapras
      @magiclapras 2 роки тому +1

      I swear the only reason it's still on the calendar is because of it's history.

  • @JJStonnerr
    @JJStonnerr 3 роки тому +1

    Another interesting fact about the Dallas GP and Ayrton Senna, from a Dallas local. The track had issues with the concrete barriers shifting closer into the track throughout the weekend, due to the poor build quality. At one point during qualifying, if I remember correctly, Senna was able to tell that one of the barriers in the corner was off by only 3cm exactly. He told his team, team told the stewards, they went out to check it, and the barrier was, as Senna exactly said, 3cm off from when they first placed it before the GP weekend.

    • @RJSRdg
      @RJSRdg 2 роки тому +1

      IIRC he hit the barrier and damaged his car, and said that the barrier must have moved as he was driving exactly the same line on every lap. At first the team didn't believe him, but he was so insistent that they went out and measured it and found he was correct!

    • @JJStonnerr
      @JJStonnerr 2 роки тому +1

      @@RJSRdg That’s exactly how I originally heard it

  • @Strudlfaust
    @Strudlfaust 3 роки тому +15

    01:57 Dallas didn't preceed Detroit, as that had happened already over two years prior. And it was also the preceding GP only two weeks prior to Dallas

  • @elr8691
    @elr8691 3 роки тому +4

    I live near Dallas, now, and I could not imagine squeezing in an F1 race these days, there's way too many people in this area. It's a shame because that track looked like an exciting layout.

  • @SteveKemper
    @SteveKemper 2 роки тому +5

    Valencia! I miss that track, actually. Still vividly remember Alonso's win in 2012 & Weber's huge aerial crash in 2010.

  • @andym9176
    @andym9176 3 роки тому +9

    Would LOVE to see that monza track again, looks amazing

  • @Jt7166
    @Jt7166 3 роки тому +6

    I know it wasn't a popular race, but I absolutely loved Valencia Street Circuit. One of my favorites to drive in the sim too.

  • @emileportejoie2862
    @emileportejoie2862 3 роки тому +3

    Circuit de Charade in France was very dangerous too ! A part of the GP was on the road, very close to cliffs.

  • @davidwilson1691
    @davidwilson1691 3 роки тому +24

    Absolutely bang on with regard to Monaco. We accept it as a part of the modern calendar that although exciting in its own way, does not promote great racing. The idea of someone trying to get Monaco sanctioned as a race venue today sounds like something from an absurd sketch show.

    • @n4s117
      @n4s117 3 роки тому +2

      The sponsors like it and that's why it's still there.

    • @russell2165
      @russell2165 2 роки тому

      absolutely, david. a track where the race is mostly won in qualifying makes very little sense.

    • @RJSRdg
      @RJSRdg 2 роки тому +3

      @@russell2165 Though it is possible to overtake at Monaco - as there were a number of overtakes in this year's Historic and Formula E races. However modern F1 cars have really become too wide.
      The addition of the swimming pool section, the Nouvelle Chicane and the sharpening of Ste Devote probably don't help much either.

    • @longshot7601
      @longshot7601 2 роки тому +1

      I miss the old Long Beach street circuit. The turn on to Pine must have been breathtaking.

  • @jacksonlam2877
    @jacksonlam2877 3 роки тому +27

    At least there were overtakes at Valencia...

  • @coronasdelaurel
    @coronasdelaurel 3 роки тому +44

    The Dallas GP didn't precede the Detroit one. Detroit was in the calendar from 1982 to 1988.

    • @someguy5487
      @someguy5487 3 роки тому +2

      And both were a disgrace to f1

    • @redlightning2322
      @redlightning2322 3 роки тому +1

      If they had used the Belle Isle Circuit that Indy use itd be pretty good

    • @mattpotter8725
      @mattpotter8725 3 роки тому

      @@someguy5487 And let's not even mention Phoenix!!!

    • @RandomCarl05
      @RandomCarl05 3 роки тому +1

      Basically all USA street circuits for F1 from 1981-1991 (except Long Beach) were trash
      (Said someone who likes Phoenix lol)

  • @nachodinos3
    @nachodinos3 3 роки тому +12

    This videos add years to my life. Thx therace

  • @JeromeG1956
    @JeromeG1956 3 роки тому +46

    And I'd love to see Monza restored to using that banked oval again.

    • @ferdypl322
      @ferdypl322 2 роки тому +2

      They use it in WRC

    • @dimitris.4484
      @dimitris.4484 Рік тому +1

      They still use it but for some motorsport shows and tourists.

  • @pexeq
    @pexeq 3 роки тому +8

    Sakhir has instantly become one of my favorite tracks, I hope it will make a return some day.

    • @youngboo6578
      @youngboo6578 2 роки тому

      same

    • @nickkarion
      @nickkarion 2 роки тому

      It's still there, you mean the endurance version?

    • @pexeq
      @pexeq 2 роки тому +1

      @@nickkarion Sakhir GP, a variation of the Bahrain Circuit. 3.5km track length with lap times of under a minute. Was not in 2021 calendar.

    • @nickkarion
      @nickkarion 2 роки тому +1

      Oh, the oval one, I doubt it will come back but it gave us a memorable race, if only Russell wasn't knocked out by his own pit crew

  • @AustrianGamingHD
    @AustrianGamingHD 3 роки тому +35

    I really loved the Valencian Circuit. Fast and unique corners/parts
    Just recently played F1 2012 to race this track 😅💪🏻

  • @stephenhirsch8521
    @stephenhirsch8521 2 роки тому +4

    For me one of the strangest was the old configuration of Spa until they shortened it to the track we know and love today

  • @BOABModels
    @BOABModels 3 роки тому +3

    I remember reading that the development of cars far outstripped the development of tracks - therefore by the 1970s accidents were common on circuits which were too narrow or twisty such as Watkins glen or the Nordschlife.

  • @orsomethingorno
    @orsomethingorno 3 роки тому +4

    When it comes to "Almost ovals" the Caesar's Palace track should get a further mention for the configuration used by Indycars for a couple of years after F1 left, bypassing the infield sections to create a layout of essentially 5 or 6 left handers

  • @easyadventurer
    @easyadventurer 3 роки тому +20

    “Curiously, the Nurburgring was man made” nah, thought we stumbled across a bitumen circuit one day mate 😂

    • @rubeng3
      @rubeng3 2 роки тому

      The scenes

  • @stephenyates962
    @stephenyates962 3 роки тому +3

    The Indianapolis GP circuit was used between 2000-07, not 2001-07, as stated in the video. That is a weird track, though, in its original configuration (the double hairpins of Turns 9 and 10)

  • @mackenziek8383
    @mackenziek8383 2 роки тому +1

    The banking at Avus and Monza is so cool. Just played Mafia 1 and it's so obvious they took inspiration from those tracks for their racing track. Love that mission, even if it's hard as hell.

  • @istvankrizsanyik
    @istvankrizsanyik 3 роки тому +8

    9:26 wrong! The Monza Rally Show still uses the bankings in every year.

  • @BlueFlagAlpha
    @BlueFlagAlpha 3 роки тому +157

    What about Paul Ricard? The track that can hurt your eyes

    • @kaMosGO
      @kaMosGO 3 роки тому +18

      Yeah, the design of the Astroturf is very odd ^^ But i actually quite like the circuit, its unfortunate it has produced only boring races so far.

    • @kuttispielt7801
      @kuttispielt7801 3 роки тому +4

      kaMos *CS:GO* I think it would be a great circuit if it had some kerbs and some grass

    • @astrovisionbroadcastingunion
      @astrovisionbroadcastingunion 3 роки тому +8

      The thing is that Paul Ricard is actually a great track. But they ruined it by replacing the grass and the gravel by more concrete with flashy sticky rubbons... it got absolutly ruined. It's like putting these terrible things at Monza...

    • @deeznoots6241
      @deeznoots6241 3 роки тому +4

      Its a testing track and should have stayed a testing track, as a race track its awful

    • @xavierrodriguez2463
      @xavierrodriguez2463 3 роки тому

      I like the look of paul ricard's runoff

  • @dingodave89
    @dingodave89 3 роки тому +6

    I must be one of the rare people who prefer the endurance layout of the Bahrain track. It actually seems to challenge the talents and abilities of the grid unlike most tracks.

    • @barney172
      @barney172 3 роки тому +1

      It's more challenging, but the problem was that overtaking was not promoted through that configuration, so many spectators found it to boring. For me it's not the best track i've ever seen and i like the normal layout more, but still i find it more interresting than tracks like Abu Dhabi or Sochi

    • @THENAMEISQUICKMAN
      @THENAMEISQUICKMAN 3 роки тому

      It's definitely more a track for exciting qualifying than exciting racing.

  • @Billiamiscool
    @Billiamiscool 3 роки тому +9

    I think the Zeltweg Air Base track deserved a mention

    • @ReinhardP
      @ReinhardP 2 роки тому +1

      Narrow, bumpy, L-shaped, no stands for the spectators. Should have been on the list imho.

  • @raggeragnar
    @raggeragnar 3 роки тому

    I think you covered them all. Weird circuits , that is. I can’t think of anyone left out. Cool video.

  • @FormulaJason
    @FormulaJason 3 роки тому +10

    My Dad actually worked at the Dallas Grand Prix as a volunteer and ended up with Ferrari for the weekend. Either Friday or Saturday he drove his brand new Honda Interceptor 500 into the pits. When he came back to get his bike and go home for the day, René Arnoux was looking at his bike and asked him if he could take his bike on a lap. My Dad said sure and Arnoux took it around the course twice, came back around and asked my Dad to do a lap. My dad did and said he was pretty nervous doing so, because he wasn't really supposed to be out on the track, but he got a lap in and wasn't caught!

  • @xRestart
    @xRestart 3 роки тому +55

    Thanks for calling the outer track “inaccurately described as oval” since its similarity to an oval is the same as the similarities between Grosjean and Hamilton

    • @StaySqueezy12
      @StaySqueezy12 3 роки тому +12

      For real. No banking, tight turns, definitely not an oval.

    • @jeremymenchaca
      @jeremymenchaca 2 роки тому

      It's more like Pocono Speedway. Pocono is also called the tricky triangle. And now I want to see an F1 race there.

    • @GowGows
      @GowGows Рік тому

      @@jeremymenchaca Pocono is an actual oval tho (tri oval but still)

  • @KenRacing
    @KenRacing 3 роки тому +2

    Very interesting video and I enjoyed it. When you re-visit the Las Vegas track on 1:07 this is so punishing for drivers and you have to go over this track under a crazy hot summer season with that dangerous monster... And Monza banking is such a twisted idea... Thank you for the nice video.

  • @EVHStrat
    @EVHStrat 3 роки тому +1

    Another addition to this list would be the original layout of SPA in Belgium where F1 (amongst other series) raced until the 1970s. Kind of comparable to the Nürburgring-Nordschleife.
    Just to give you an idea, here's an excerpt from Wikipedia:
    "Another particularly gruesome story comes from the 1972 24-hour touring car race. During one of his pit stops at night, Hans-Joachim Stuck shouted to his co-driver Jochen Mass over the noise from the cars that he should "look out for body parts at the Masta Kink". Mass arrived there expecting to see pieces from cars all over the road but was appalled to discover it was in fact the remains of a marshal"

  • @xibilfc21
    @xibilfc21 3 роки тому +27

    An argument could also be made for the Old Hockenheim. It was a unique beast and while the redesigned circuit is good in its own right, it has absolutely no character and soul when compared to the old one. The old circuit stood out because it was unique. It could be raining at one end and completely dry at the other. And tackling the stadium section with no downforce created a difficult and unique challenge out of what was otherwise (or better- what has become) a generic and boring set of corners.
    The Korean circuit which Formula 1 raced on around a decade ago was also weird. It never looked like the finished product and it was weird watching Formula 1 cars. the most technologically advanced cars in the world, race on a patched-up circuit in the heart of a swamp.

    • @Rocky712_
      @Rocky712_ 3 роки тому +4

      Yes, the old Hockenheimring was definitely unique, but it never got really good racing. Most of the track is basically flat out with 2-3 chicanes just to make unnatural overtake opportunities.
      The new layout in my eyes does not just only provide better racing in general, it is actually much harder to master it with much more corners.
      Also, I am not sure if the aspect with "It can rain on one side and be dry on the other side" is really a good one. Yes, it is definitely more likely than on a compressed circuit, but even then: Is it not a bit sad that most races at a track like that only got exciting because of the rain? I am not sure. Rain in general makes more interesting racing, not just at the old Hockenheimring.
      The Southkorean GP is actually quite a nice track. It feels a bit weird to be honest with three big straights literally in a row and then this huge and hard 2nd and 3rd sector where you cannot really overtake without a 2-3 second time advantage, but it actually has quite a nice flow. Also, the races there were quite likely to have weird weather, because of the geographics. It´s interesting and decent, but also a bit awkward. I am not sure If I would put into the Top 10 though.

    • @jwork5680
      @jwork5680 3 роки тому +2

      Ur mad the old Hockenheim is nothing special its just a super long dragstrip, the newer one has more characteristics and soul

    • @xibilfc21
      @xibilfc21 3 роки тому +3

      @@Rocky712_ Regarding the Korean GP, we're in total agreement. Regarding Old Hockenheim, I think one needs to look at it in the context of other circuits on the calendar to truly appreciate its uniqueness. Whether one loved its layout or not, one cannot argue that it wasn't a unique challenge. For the F1 calendar in general, having these curve-ball circuits is a good thing. It mixes up the pack too. For example cars which usually did not do well because they had bad downforce but in turn had a powerful engine, used to look forward to Hockenheim as they often scored valuable points there.

    • @TeemoQuinton
      @TeemoQuinton 3 роки тому

      @@jwork5680 Get out of here Tilke!

    • @jwork5680
      @jwork5680 3 роки тому

      @@TeemoQuinton lol nice joke

  • @ganjabobby
    @ganjabobby 3 роки тому +5

    Video doesn’t mention the time Nick Heidfeld did around the Nurburgring in the F1 car in 2007, but did mention the 5:19 that the Porsche did in 2019.
    The F1 did it in 5:57 (technically).

    • @AKStovall
      @AKStovall 3 роки тому +2

      Heidfeld wasn't going full tilt. open that F1 car up and the fastest lap record of today wouldn't have ever been set... with the downforce and lateral g capabilities of an F1 car would have put the heidfled lap into the sub 5 minute range... even in 2007.

  • @spectacularspaghetti1849
    @spectacularspaghetti1849 3 роки тому +17

    I personally really liked Valencia tbh, espcially in games

  • @AndreiTupolev
    @AndreiTupolev 3 роки тому

    Some fantastic photos here, those from Pescara are particularly outstanding. Magnificent shot of the Vanwall at 3:26.

  • @thomaslloyd4020
    @thomaslloyd4020 3 роки тому +7

    the Zeltweg airfield circuit should be included, L shaped 4 turn course

  • @josderbos9571
    @josderbos9571 3 роки тому +22

    Argentina 1995-98 could also be another, effectively Monaco without the houses

    • @SantiJovi
      @SantiJovi 3 роки тому +5

      That layout was designed by Juan Manuel Fangio.

    • @Sem5626
      @Sem5626 3 роки тому

      really? i loved that track

    • @AlonsoRules
      @AlonsoRules 3 роки тому

      that track was a joke

    • @SantiJovi
      @SantiJovi 3 роки тому +1

      @@Sem5626 Apparently Fangio had a predilection for twisted circuits and he designed that part of the track back in the 50's when it was built.

    • @SantiJovi
      @SantiJovi 3 роки тому +4

      @@AlonsoRules Unfortunately the contract for the new era of the Argentinean Grand Prix was signed a few months after Senna's death back in 1994. The original idea was to use the same layout used during the 70's with the two long back straights around the lake but the FIA forced the promoters to use this small twisted layout for safety reasons.

  • @__MARKR__
    @__MARKR__ 3 роки тому +2

    Nice! In addition to the NordSchleife, perhaps worth mentioning it was also featured in the WSeries Esports League of 2020.

  • @Sicdave58
    @Sicdave58 3 роки тому +1

    Loved the vid👍. Valencia was a great track. Always very interesting races there.

  • @J4FTobinator
    @J4FTobinator 3 роки тому +7

    Honestly, I loved Valencia for the Circuit itself and the great athmosphere

  • @nejeken9790
    @nejeken9790 3 роки тому +1

    The current Hermanos Rodriguez configuration is weird too since it goes through a baseball stadium

  • @mgustafson2010
    @mgustafson2010 2 роки тому +3

    I actually liked the 2020 Sakhir layout it was weird but the overtakes were plenty and the pace was incredibly fast

  • @illusion86ln
    @illusion86ln 3 роки тому +9

    I loved Valencia in the F1 2012 game!

    • @barryboor6416
      @barryboor6416 3 роки тому

      Interesting programme, but, Tony Brooks won at AVUS in a Ferrari, not a Vanwall.

  • @TOFKAS01
    @TOFKAS01 3 роки тому +4

    5:45 In fact, I would love to see at least one F1 race on such a track. At least one real High-Speed-race should be added to the calender after decades of characterless-tracks made by Hermann Tilke.

  • @redthezz
    @redthezz 3 роки тому +2

    The old Spa circuit. Intriguing, yet weird... especially when the old Stavelot corner had an upgrade to make it a lot faster

  • @hughgraham7164
    @hughgraham7164 3 роки тому

    The original Watkins Glen road circuit had some oddities that you can still see today. And Aintree was weird.

  • @Octolicia
    @Octolicia 3 роки тому +10

    4:23 : The infamous pif-paf. ^^

  • @rick.05
    @rick.05 3 роки тому +26

    Am I the only one thinking Valencia was actually good? It had overtake possibilities, but the drivers weren't trying to overtake

    • @cornevangulik6166
      @cornevangulik6166 3 роки тому +2

      It wasn’t that great.

    • @barney172
      @barney172 3 роки тому +1

      It had a nice layout. I think the problem was, that in one year there were zero overtakes throughout the Grand Prix and that Ricardo Tormo is not to far away, which made the streetcircuit idea pointless

    • @Garvm
      @Garvm 3 роки тому +2

      The problem was that the politicians who made this circuit were not re-elected, after taking our money with the excuse of America’s cup, F1 circuit and a lot of other stupid things.

    • @AlonsoRules
      @AlonsoRules 3 роки тому

      There were no overtakes in the 2009 race!

  • @stonebrick-uc4ns
    @stonebrick-uc4ns 3 роки тому +1

    one track that also comes to my mind is the Bremgarten-Rundstrecke, near Berne in Switzerland, which hosted f1 races from 1950 to 1954 and was known as the grand prix of switzerland.

  • @Omahamaho
    @Omahamaho 3 роки тому

    3:56 I love the Psygnosis footage you added

  • @Executor009
    @Executor009 2 роки тому +5

    "If Monaco was proposed today it would be laughed at"
    Meanwhile Baku: Am I a joke to you?

    • @lucas_13.
      @lucas_13. 2 роки тому

      Baku is wayyy better than monaco

    • @aaryanramesh7761
      @aaryanramesh7761 2 роки тому

      @@lucas_13. baku is wide in some areas. Monaco has barriers inches away from you at all times

  • @xander1052
    @xander1052 3 роки тому +3

    You forgot to mention the rather odd Korea International Circuit, which was designed to have a city built around it and be partially temporary.

  • @TheFilwud
    @TheFilwud 3 роки тому +1

    Very interesting, didn't know about some of these and didn't know Monza had ever used that sort of figure 8 type circuit thing.

  • @MOTO809
    @MOTO809 2 роки тому

    Cote d'Azur was a nemesis of mine in the GT series. Glad it made this 10 weirdest compilation.

  • @DaarthPingas
    @DaarthPingas 3 роки тому +5

    2:40 holy god those tires are c o o k e d

    • @nekroneko
      @nekroneko 3 роки тому +2

      It's just bits of discarded rubber that is off the racing line and has been picked up after the race is over to help increase the weight of the car for final weigh in. The tires run very hot and make them very sticky, so it is quite easy to collect some of the debris. It's quite normal. Check it out next time you watch a race and they are parking up, the wheels always look like crap.

  • @hauptsachepuls1080
    @hauptsachepuls1080 3 роки тому +14

    Still racing in Monaco makes it the weirdest track by distance.

  • @notsanger
    @notsanger 3 роки тому +2

    3:32 "caused by the suez crisis" threw me for a loop hearing that. lol

  • @L00PdeL00P
    @L00PdeL00P 3 роки тому +3

    5:54 Luigi Raceway from GameCube, anyone? Lmao

  • @stonexl
    @stonexl 3 роки тому +28

    The Monza oval needs to be restored and used again by something.

    • @WalintHUN
      @WalintHUN 3 роки тому +1

      its very old structure, i would only plant there flowers... better to build a new track than restore that, probably cheaper too

    • @AgentH8voc
      @AgentH8voc 3 роки тому

      Monza rally use the bankings if I remember correctly

    • @fishingthelist4017
      @fishingthelist4017 2 роки тому

      @@AgentH8voc I think they drive on the apron for the rally for one lap.