@Sasha R Fiat alone, that's why fca is a thing. And they never had nothing to do with f1, they just have a portion of the team with Elkann but only for sponsorship and rappresentation, the ferrari engineers are not Fiat employers
@@silveradopunked8329 No, the PU is good but too aggressive, as is the rest of the car, so it doesn't work and it's crap. Simply not balanced at all and no cornering downforce.
by many years from now the hat’s price will be skyrocket because of its vintage value especially if that hat has the logo of Malboro…my friend have 1 original Yamaha Malboro and just post its pic in fb for fun,a year after that suddenly there’s this one maniac pm and offered him to buy that t shirt with a high price..I dont know if vintage culture is strong or not in europe but south east asia there is plenty of vintage maniac looking for the old and rare motorsport t shirts and hats
@@lindsaymartinez5341 No. Mercedes got a 1 year head start on engine development, which made them dominant ever since the Turbo V6 era started. And now that RedBull is on par with them, they cried to FIA to ban their rear wings and make their pit stops slower. All the while the FIA is ignoring their bending front wings.
it's funny how the fia tried everything to stop Ferraris dominance in the early 2000s while they don't give a shit about the current lack of overtaking and Mercedes dominance
u must be kidding :D Ferrari is always supported by FIA and the race controlls. they despirately try to help them in every race. just check what penalty the others got for what and compare to ferrari's penalties. u will be shocked if u onened your eyes ;) but no offence brah i see u are a ferrari fan and that is cool. everyone cheers for the team what they want/like. unfortinately my fav team is struggling for long long ages and cant see the end of it. they making worse and worse decisions :( till they get better in shape i will always root for the team which is able to beat ferrari cos i cant stand the privilege they have!
@@kacsa1st Yep even Mercedes said they would be cool with simplification changes to help smaller teams be more competitive. In stark contrast it was Ferrari who said no lol.
What’s even worse is that the 2019 regs helped Mercedes’s weakness and didn’t give chance for other teams to do a concept for at least 6 months and not let Mercedes get a head start
Unlike other "great" F1 designs which were leaps and bounds better than the competition for the seasons they were designed for, this is one of the few/only one which it's dominance was not caused by a major change in regulations. The rules remained largely the same between 2003-2004 yet they managed to improve their car much further beyond any normal estimates.
@@xXEpicMehXx Merc is the only team that are able to use the current pirelli tyres all the others can not get them in the perfect zone. Now kudos to merc for this but on a different tyre structure merc could be nowere. It's a shame that the tyres are deciding much of the races
1 tyre per race is the dumbest and unsafest rule that has ever been in formula 1 and im not even a big Ferrari fan, i understand refueling why its banned but not changing the tires is just sad
@@anyajenkins4611 Are you sure the FIA were against Schumacher? I really cannot remember anything to support is, I may well be wrong but after his first race start at Spa in a Jordan he was poached from Jordan to Benetton, but why do you believe he was hated by the FIA?
@MrsF0ck Schumacher did many things wrong and deserved the blackflags and racebannes but there were decisions too that i just didn't understand, but it was a time (the first 10 years after imola 94) of very much development of the rules in F1. But i have to say this new era 2014-2019 the most rules, i completely just don't get them!
Dumb, probably! Dumbest and unsafest definitely no! It's safe coz the tyre was designed for that, made all cars slower than they could be, which is not ideal, but increased overtaking and made strategy more refined and important!
Meanwhile in 2019: "The car so bad it shocked Ferrari" Meanwhile in 2019 mid season: "The engine Soo good it shocked the entire grid" Couple of weeks later: "The updates so good it shocked Ferrari" Race day: "The same stupid Ferrari's strategy none is shocked anymore"
If Ferrari has good strategy their car sucks. If their car is good their strategy sucks. If both are on point Seb crashes into Leclerc and retires them both 😂
No car in the recent history of F1 was so dominant as 2014-2020 Mercedes. FIA gave a huge advantage to Mercedes by a simple administrative decision. Was it an unfortunate mistake, or did FIA receive a few millions of bribe from Mercedes?
Ferrari in 2004: We’re too fast and this can’t be true. 2019: We’re fast in testing so we’ll be fast in the season and when things go wrong well we were still quick in testing
People say the Schumacher dominance era was boring but the races were actually really enjoyable. They were more 'organic' and drivers were having close battles up and down the grid. The Red Bull and Mercedes eras have been genuinely boring because drivers can't race close to each other for more than a couple of laps and even then, they push a button when they want to overtake, and half the time it ends a crash.
that's why I've been enjoying MotoGP these days, each day, always some rookies in privateer teams trying to gunning down Marquez and the Factory Ducatis
I disagree, seeing the title wrapped up in July wasn't exciting. Although if you're a Ferrari fan you must've had an amazing time. For everyone else there just wasn't any point. In 2002 and 2004 I'm talking about. 2003 was really close, wanted raikonnen to win that year
Wot? Mentioning Red Bull era (7 different winners in 7 first races of 2012...) and Mercedes scam in the same sentence is proof of IQ room temperature, especially seeing Red Bull had even more drastic changes thrown at it to kill their cars than 2004 Ferrari in the video, yet Mercedes gets nothing...
"Which Ross Brawn believes to this day was designed to bring an end to their success" Ehm...what do you mean "Ross Brawn believes"? It was confirmed by many, including Bernie Ecclestone himself, that stopping Ferrari winning everything was one of the main objectives of introducing 2005 rules. And now we have Mercedes domination (a much more severe domination and much worse for the sport, by the way, since it's up from 60-70% poles/races for Ferrari to nearly 85% poles/races for Mercedes) and we don't have a rule change to adress that. F1 in 2019 is boring beyond belief since you already know the names of 1-2, the only question is the order.
If anything the 2019 regs helped Mercedes by getting rid of their only real weakness - the thinner gauge tires being season long is a pretty convenient plus for Mercedes, and has hurt everyone else. Remember their private tests with Pirelli in 2013? Something stinks.
you don't even need to bring up the % of poles/wins, just look at the average gaps between Mercedes/Pole to the next non-Mercedes car from any 4 year period starting in 2014 and compare it to ANY other team/cars in the modern era. Most dominant cars ever and there's evidence to show that Mercedes never utilised them to their full potential from 2014 to 2016 either due to them being so far ahead, with the laps after the late race safety car in Bahrain in 2014 would arguably be the only time they did so in race trim and despite both their driver fiercely battling they still managed to pull out 24 seconds in 10 laps. Despite that, here we are about to see Mercedes probably win all but 2-3 races (if we're lucky) of the 2019 season and with pretty dull racing to boot if we're honest. The V8 era from 2009-13 brought about the most entertaining and closest seasons F1 has had, even with Vettel comfortably winning in '11 and '13 when the teams showed up each weekend we'd not know for sure who would win, now if a Mercedes leads out of turn 1 it's race over.
The greatest F1 car ever made, driven by the best driver in F1 history. No other car has set records that stood for so long. Even the mighty MP4/4 was three seconds off the pace of its successor on some tracks. And the 2016 Mercedes was even further off due to the 2017 regulation changes.
If there’s one car that represents F1 to the fullest that’s got to be the one. Back then even people who weren’t interested in F1 at all knew who Schumacher was and always associated the sport with that legendary Ferrari. Posters of it were everywhere. Not a single domination afterwards has struck such cultural impact. Not Alonso, not Vettel, not Hamilton. Schumacher to F1 is what Jordan is to Basketball. The ultimate icon and face of the sport.
largol33t1 different times with different regulations. Ferrari used their 2002 car also until Spain 2003. with the regulation changes and the Time improvements of the modern era it is impossible to use a car of the year before
@@hsghanau94 Not really. Even Brundle at the time said it was the mark of an all time great driver than Kimi did that. The most impressive thing about Kimi that season was, that he outperformed the car in massively in qualifying, and usually, drivers go back down the field, after outperforming a car in quali. But Kimi didn't he somehow made up ground or kept position. Which is seriously hard to do. Imola 2003, Monaco 2003, Nurburgring 2003 all come to mind. Not to mention Australia, Malaysia, Indy, Brazil, Monza and others.
Ciaron Smith i never doubted Kimis accomplishments with McLaren. I only pointed out that in the last years it was impossible to use an old car, because of the regulation changes (tyres, aero, halo, etc.) :)
@@largol33t1 different era and regulations... Back then teams have unlimited number of testings,developments can be done and also the regulations weren't as drastic as it is now.. Also back in 2003, Ferrari used their 2002 car for the first 4-5 races until Barcelona and that car was still as competitive as the Williams and Renaults who all use their 2003 variants.
It’s always been a pet peeve of mine when people always spew out that Ferrari/schumi dominated 2000-2004. 2000 and 2003 came down to the last race and 2001 had multiple winners and multiple pole sitters. 2002 and 2004 we’re dominant. Hell ..... 2002 Juan had a ton of impressive poles. Enjoyed the video.
2001 was dominant. Schumacher had 9 wins and the next best was his brother (lol) with 3. Poles don't mean much if you can't win (or even finish) the race. 15 wins out of 17 in 2002 is almost as dominant as a team can get.
@@retsoptihs0 2002 MSC 100% podium finish record for ALL races that season. MSC was on the podium for every single race. Still the only Schumacher record HAM is unlikely to ever beat.
@@dotalord6665 haha, go and search about it, every team bring in some upgrades during race weekends. If you don't know about f1 then please stop discarding others genuine points. Don't make a fool of yourself again by commenting such bs.
That was a cheap win for Alonso and Renault in 2005 as FIA did everything they could to stop Ferrari from winning. And then some idiotic clowns still dare to claim that FIA favors Ferrari lol.
You have it the other way lol. It was Ferrari who cheated and lied their way to get Renault out. Michael parked his car in Rascasse and denied Alonso the pole.
The 2005 rules were indeed to bring an end to Ferrari domination, and it was the right call just like in 2009, now the FIA doesn't seem all that interested in putting an end to the V6 hybride embarrassing era for F1. Ferrari wasn't all that dominate, in both 2000 and 2003 McLaren was so close, the same goes for Williams, for one simple reason back then teams could develop their cars not like now when basically they are all stuck, Mercedes got lucky with their engine design the others weren't allowed to develop theirs, and this year the rules essentially eliminated the last weakness of the Mercedes namely tyre temperature.
You can't really complain when Ferrari keeps blocking everything the FIA does to try to even the playing field. The FIA needs to stop budging to Ferrari demands every time they *threaten to leave the sport* and just do what's necessary to bring some type of parity to F1. Money distribution based on *merit* would be a good start.
The 04-08 are the best looking cars of the 00's. The 2017 car is an improvement on the disasters that was the 12-16 designs but it looks too clinical for me.
It wasn't just the car that was amazing, but the team effort-spirit and atmosphere in the pits, between Schumacher and the mechanics. Something you will never see between Hamilton and Mercedes.
Im really liking the gen 3 fe cars. Theyre what f1 could look like if there arent any bans on wheel covers (if I remember correctly it was so the car design is old school and connected to its roots)
@@doublestufpenguin which worked for Mercedes as well in the years when they started developing the incredible car they rolling today on track. So Italians are good in F1, the biggest problem Ferrari is facing now it's just terrible strategy and lack of engine developement possibly due to the specs of the V6 hybrid engines: keeping track of solid reliable power units and integrating them with power and speed is often an underrated task, a task even companies like honda and renault are struggling immensely with. Give us V12 back and probably the front row would see better fighting and much more intense overtaking :/
@@OltrePodcast_Official V12 is never coming back and stupid SF did this to themselves. AM, Porsche and Lamborghini said let us simplify the motor, make them more affordable and competitive. Stupid SF said no way Jose. Now sit back and enjoy them pull themselves too pieces till 2021, maybe they will learn their lesson from this. 😁👍
A faster car despite some regulation changes (I remember in 2004 the rear wings only had 2 planes instead of 3 used before, also only 1 engine per driver per weekend).
I love how they potray the car as a villian with the dark music. It's like the car is saying " oh you almost had me last year, I'm gonna eat you alive this year"
Technically Alonso didn't end anything in 2005. He got lucky Kimi's McLaren kept failing, Kimi also beat Michael in 2005 in the final standings. But the real question I have is: How did Kimi Raikkonen win in a 2004 McLaren at Spa against the F2004? How overrated was Alonso, that he couldn't win a single race in 2004?
@@henrywhatzal4724 I'm not a troll. Schumi is the GOAT, but he was past his prime by 2003. Alonso didn't win a race either in 2004. That is shocking. The Renault and BAR were the closest cars to Ferrari in 2004. That's trolling? Lmao.
@tubehows4life you do know he beat all of the drivers you mentioned right? And he almost won a championship in the 4th best car if michael shumacher didnt give seb a free championship? In 2005 he won in the 2nd best car, kimi lost because of his preformances and an unnecicairy DNF at the nurburgring cause he didnt stretch his tired and broke the suspention. Fernando isnt perfect but he deserved the 2005,2006,2010,2012 championships. In 2007 he beat rookie hamilton dont act as if lewis stomped him cause he didnt, lewis also got lucky at some points in the season. But thats okay lewis is a good driver thats on the same level as fernando, but saying kimi deserved 2005 is like saying massa deserved 2008 or saying that fernando deserved 2013. You are in fact a troll and you definetly dont know what you are saying. Fernando isnt overrated because if the engineers say he has a bad car and they say he was preforming outstanding every race then enough is said. Hamilton and button are also great drivers so saying that fernando isnt special for beating them is foolish. Lewis is a 5 time wc and jenson is a 1 time wc and fernando beat them.
I think you'll find that technically he did. The word technically means according to the facts, try looking it up in the dictionary. The facts show that technically Alonso won the 2005 (and 2006) title and that Raikkonen technically won the 2007 title.
@@khanveldwachter1994 He fluked in 2014 against Kimi. Kimi could not drive that car as he wanted, the setup, handling of the car massively favored Alonso. Alonso praised the handling of that car several times, while Kimi couldn't hit a single apex.
By that time, it was consensual to say that the car had been designed around the new incoming Bridgestone tyres (and a little headstart...), and that made for all the difference in performance... So in a way, it was a different type of thinking + It takes someone like Schuemacher to take advantage of it. I remember Raikonnen (?) throwing his chances of winning the Drivers championship, while leading the race ! Like Verstappen today, Michael new his tyres better than anyone else on track. Thank you for the video!
We all like unpredictability in F1,but one has to admit,if there's 1 team to dominate year after year,it better be Ferrari. Watching en energy drink company dominate 2010-2013 was painful,although one has to also admit it was well deserved,because they did too good of a job.
Those are times when the Ferrari team use to be family, cars were made with heart and passion, but now the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing.
This is so well made. Are you by any chance thinking of making some long-form videos in a similar style? If not, you should consider it. Maybe covering legendary seasons of old? With this kind of presentation, that is something I would definitely watch .
@@katout75 Not possible. Allison joined Mercedes in 2017 and was also responsible the Benetton B195 (by far the succesfull car for that team without cheating) for the dominating Ferraris from 2000 to 2005, the Renault of 2006 and the Mercedes W08 (2nd half of the season), W09 and W10 EQ Power+. To me that's a pretty solid career if you ask me.
@@sekhyhybrid6701 I meant Aldo Costa, he's semi-retired now living in Italy. Previously he lived in the UK designing the chassis for MB after leaving Ferrari. I agree Allison is a great asset to MB, but he's never been the chief chassis designer. He's sorta like Ross Brawn as both were Technical Directors at very successful F1 teams, but neither AFAIK chief F1 chassis designers like Chapman/Murray/Barnard/Newey/Costa/Bryne
I hated this car because it was obliterating the competition and if I remember correctly it was used halfway through the following season too because it was that good
Hate the other teams for not bringing their cars up to speed. Same like this season, am not mad at Mercedes, am mad at Ferrari (and red bull) for not matching them
I loved F1 in the 90s and early 00s. I doubt Ferrari were shocked. Ross Brawn was a genius and Ferrari would have known what they were making. The engine was superior. But after Schumachers legacy its sad to see the decline.
"The focus of the 2004 car was to lower the center of gravity and improve weight distribution. Also, many body parts were redesigned to improve air flow." Very much the same forward thinking concept of the 1988 Mclaren mp4-4 that dominated with Senna/Prost.
Until Ferrari puts together a dream team like this again (i.e. Schumacher, brawn, todt, byrn, costa), it is going to be a long drought until they see success like this
Looks can be debatable, sure sound can't beat the V10s, both era are incredible to me but in terms of progress & technology, current era is truly the pinnacle of motorsports, at least for the technical advancement.
Ya'll forgot to censor the Marlboro sponsors, i relapsed and smoked 6 packs in the last hour...
Shame on You :))
Hahaha
Only 6 mate I smoked something like 20 packs.
Shame on autosport
Indeed
The Marlboro ads help with the speed.
@Sasha R Ferrari is still sponsored by Marlboro.
unlike mission spinnow
@Sasha R It's Renault that is beeing sold to fca
@Sasha R no man, Nissan and mazda are the reason this fusion hasn't already happened, fca is in good shape
@Sasha R Fiat alone, that's why fca is a thing. And they never had nothing to do with f1, they just have a portion of the team with Elkann but only for sponsorship and rappresentation, the ferrari engineers are not Fiat employers
2020: The car so bad it shocked Ferrari
"The car so slow it shocked Prema"
Lol true
It is one 100% the engine.
2019: the car so illegal it paid off the FIA
Totally agreed because of the clown 🤡
We are very fast. Wait. There must be something wrong.
It's the same story with 2019 you know.
@@silveradopunked8329 No, the PU is good but too aggressive, as is the rest of the car, so it doesn't work and it's crap. Simply not balanced at all and no cornering downforce.
Actually they are this year but the problem is the fucking tyres
Were*
Imadh Ahmed shut up let him be his own person
The Ferrari FS2004, a car so good EVEN Ferrari forgot how to make it again.
nice reference to what Jeremy said about the Lexus LFA 😂
Man's expressing his GENIUS!
Ahahaha 🤭🤭
LFA is a V10 aswell
This car was something else 🤣
My father in law was an AMD engineer at the time, he got to sit in this car. He still wears his Ferari hat given to him by the F1 team
Lucky man :)
That's so awesome 💪👌🤟
AMD engineer? Nice!
Did he have a shower since then? I hope not! :D
by many years from now the hat’s price will be skyrocket because of its vintage value especially if that hat has the logo of Malboro…my friend have 1 original Yamaha Malboro and just post its pic in fb for fun,a year after that suddenly there’s this one maniac pm and offered him to buy that t shirt with a high price..I dont know if vintage culture is strong or not in europe but south east asia there is plenty of vintage maniac looking for the old and rare motorsport t shirts and hats
When Ferrari had the best car
and McLaren and Williams are their competitors........
How times change so dramatically.......
That's sad for both teams
@@christav5790 for all three hahaha
Whenever feeling sick of the Mercedes domination just think about this example
why what happened to the scuderia ?
i was an F1 maniac but after 2006-08 and i stopped watching,
The F2004 and the MP4-20 really were the ultimate V10 monsters. Both held laps records that weren't broken until 2017.
Some tracks still hold F2004 records today(2019).
U forgot R25
@@Loony007 Yep, F2004, MP4-20 and the R25 were the fastest V10 monsters.
Barrichelos monza record at the race is still not broken (2021).
Good god
The uncensored Marlboro branding gave it an extra 40 h.p.
And now, the SF90: the car so good it fooled the Autosport team.
Oooooooooh kill em'
Problem with the todays ferrari is not in the car
Underrated comment🤣👍
John Bicycle 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@demerjr8097 Sir. You are completely wrong.
The team with most titles is Marlboro.
Marlboro f1 stats:
Marlboro team Texaco: 1974 WDC and constructor
Marlboro Team McLaren: 1976 WDC
Marlboro McLaren International: 1984-1986: 3 WDC and 2 constructors
Honda Marlboro McLaren: 1988-1991: 4 WDC and 4 constructors
Scuderia Ferrari Marlboro: 1999-2004, 2007-2008: 6 WDC and 8 Constructors
@@ACairways marlboro miracle
@@ACairways 30 titles good lord
“5 years of unprecedented domination”
yes now we have 7 years of that
FIA did what they could to stop Ferrari and now they are doing everything they can to help Mercedes...
@@Fico_24 Oh so Merc is running a High Rake Concept?
DOMT WORRY MAX IS DOING IT
@@lindsaymartinez5341 merc agreed to those rule changes it was supposed to help low rake cars at first glance now they are crying lol😂😂😂😂
@@lindsaymartinez5341 No. Mercedes got a 1 year head start on engine development, which made them dominant ever since the Turbo V6 era started. And now that RedBull is on par with them, they cried to FIA to ban their rear wings and make their pit stops slower. All the while the FIA is ignoring their bending front wings.
it's funny how the fia tried everything to stop Ferraris dominance in the early 2000s while they don't give a shit about the current lack of overtaking and Mercedes dominance
@@anyajenkins4611 Why ?
u must be kidding :D
Ferrari is always supported by FIA and the race controlls. they despirately try to help them in every race. just check what penalty the others got for what and compare to ferrari's penalties. u will be shocked if u onened your eyes ;)
but no offence brah i see u are a ferrari fan and that is cool. everyone cheers for the team what they want/like. unfortinately my fav team is struggling for long long ages and cant see the end of it. they making worse and worse decisions :(
till they get better in shape i will always root for the team which is able to beat ferrari cos i cant stand the privilege they have!
@@kacsa1st Yep even Mercedes said they would be cool with simplification changes to help smaller teams be more competitive. In stark contrast it was Ferrari who said no lol.
The same Ferrari team principal, now FIA president can't even help his old team.
What’s even worse is that the 2019 regs helped Mercedes’s weakness and didn’t give chance for other teams to do a concept for at least 6 months and not let Mercedes get a head start
Unlike other "great" F1 designs which were leaps and bounds better than the competition for the seasons they were designed for, this is one of the few/only one which it's dominance was not caused by a major change in regulations. The rules remained largely the same between 2003-2004 yet they managed to improve their car much further beyond any normal estimates.
Lotus GroundEffect, then this.
What about 2019 Mercedes?
Pippo can you explain please?
@@xXEpicMehXx Merc is the only team that are able to use the current pirelli tyres all the others can not get them in the perfect zone. Now kudos to merc for this but on a different tyre structure merc could be nowere. It's a shame that the tyres are deciding much of the races
@@rnichol22 damn. shame that the other teams can't step it up
FIA banned a fundamental part of F1 just to stop the dominance of Schumacher & Ferrari. That just elevates their greatness.
The V10?
@@pe-peron8441 pitstops
@@brakinglate8828 What? Pit stops still exist
@@pe-peron8441 new fan? Do a little research
It was for "better competition" at the cost of safety. Examples? Kimi in Nurburgring 2005 and the US GP farce that same year
1 tyre per race is the dumbest and unsafest rule that has ever been in formula 1 and im not even a big Ferrari fan, i understand refueling why its banned but not changing the tires is just sad
It was clear that it was implemented to stop ferrari.The rule made no sense since cars had to stop for fuel anyways.
@@anyajenkins4611 Are you sure the FIA were against Schumacher? I really cannot remember anything to support is, I may well be wrong but after his first race start at Spa in a Jordan he was poached from Jordan to Benetton, but why do you believe he was hated by the FIA?
@MrsF0ck Schumacher did many things wrong and deserved the blackflags and racebannes but there were decisions too that i just didn't understand, but it was a time (the first 10 years after imola 94) of very much development of the rules in F1. But i have to say this new era 2014-2019 the most rules, i completely just don't get them!
What’s funny is that Mercedes come out with more wins than Ferrari did back then, and they get rule changes so they can win more. #FIAGAY
Dumb, probably! Dumbest and unsafest definitely no! It's safe coz the tyre was designed for that, made all cars slower than they could be, which is not ideal, but increased overtaking and made strategy more refined and important!
Meanwhile in 2019: "The car so bad it shocked Ferrari"
Meanwhile in 2019 mid season:
"The engine Soo good it shocked the entire grid"
Couple of weeks later:
"The updates so good it shocked Ferrari"
Race day:
"The same stupid Ferrari's strategy none is shocked anymore"
If Ferrari has good strategy their car sucks. If their car is good their strategy sucks. If both are on point Seb crashes into Leclerc and retires them both 😂
@@pchurch4973 well not all crashes are Seb's fault
"The strategy so bad it surprised even Ferrari haters"
And after most of the season was over: ''Ferrari had an engine, so to noones shock, it was banned, Ferrari lost its only advantage''
No car in the recent history of F1 was so dominant as 2014-2020 Mercedes.
FIA gave a huge advantage to Mercedes by a simple administrative decision.
Was it an unfortunate mistake, or did FIA receive a few millions of bribe from Mercedes?
Ferrari in 2004: We’re too fast and this can’t be true.
2019: We’re fast in testing so we’ll be fast in the season and when things go wrong well we were still quick in testing
Not this year...
People say the Schumacher dominance era was boring but the races were actually really enjoyable.
They were more 'organic' and drivers were having close battles up and down the grid.
The Red Bull and Mercedes eras have been genuinely boring because drivers can't race close to each other for more than a couple of laps and even then, they push a button when they want to overtake, and half the time it ends a crash.
that's why I've been enjoying MotoGP these days, each day, always some rookies in privateer teams trying to gunning down Marquez and the Factory Ducatis
Some years, some races were really boring. 2002 and 2004 had their lots of really boring races...
I disagree, seeing the title wrapped up in July wasn't exciting. Although if you're a Ferrari fan you must've had an amazing time. For everyone else there just wasn't any point. In 2002 and 2004 I'm talking about. 2003 was really close, wanted raikonnen to win that year
2012 championship was one of the best of all time ffs. way better than any ferrari era championship
Wot? Mentioning Red Bull era (7 different winners in 7 first races of 2012...) and Mercedes scam in the same sentence is proof of IQ room temperature, especially seeing Red Bull had even more drastic changes thrown at it to kill their cars than 2004 Ferrari in the video, yet Mercedes gets nothing...
"Which Ross Brawn believes to this day was designed to bring an end to their success"
Ehm...what do you mean "Ross Brawn believes"? It was confirmed by many, including Bernie Ecclestone himself, that stopping Ferrari winning everything was one of the main objectives of introducing 2005 rules.
And now we have Mercedes domination (a much more severe domination and much worse for the sport, by the way, since it's up from 60-70% poles/races for Ferrari to nearly 85% poles/races for Mercedes) and we don't have a rule change to adress that. F1 in 2019 is boring beyond belief since you already know the names of 1-2, the only question is the order.
If anything the 2019 regs helped Mercedes by getting rid of their only real weakness - the thinner gauge tires being season long is a pretty convenient plus for Mercedes, and has hurt everyone else. Remember their private tests with Pirelli in 2013? Something stinks.
@@CdH94 Something stinks indeed: your arse
you don't even need to bring up the % of poles/wins, just look at the average gaps between Mercedes/Pole to the next non-Mercedes car from any 4 year period starting in 2014 and compare it to ANY other team/cars in the modern era.
Most dominant cars ever and there's evidence to show that Mercedes never utilised them to their full potential from 2014 to 2016 either due to them being so far ahead, with the laps after the late race safety car in Bahrain in 2014 would arguably be the only time they did so in race trim and despite both their driver fiercely battling they still managed to pull out 24 seconds in 10 laps.
Despite that, here we are about to see Mercedes probably win all but 2-3 races (if we're lucky) of the 2019 season and with pretty dull racing to boot if we're honest. The V8 era from 2009-13 brought about the most entertaining and closest seasons F1 has had, even with Vettel comfortably winning in '11 and '13 when the teams showed up each weekend we'd not know for sure who would win, now if a Mercedes leads out of turn 1 it's race over.
@@TMWT Hey my gas problem is genetic man, not cool.
The MalWare you can’t accept the truth can you?
And now "The car so bad it shocked Ferrari" 😂🤣
you mean autosport? who claimed ferrari was 0.5 sec ahead of merc on pace
Not really, the car is good, it's just that the mercedes is incredible.
@@abdullaali6144 by your logic, the williams car is good, its just that everyone else is miles better :)
Wong yew xuan not really, that’s not how logic works.
@@abdullaali6144 ? i used your words and logic in the exact same way in another context
The greatest F1 car ever made, driven by the best driver in F1 history. No other car has set records that stood for so long. Even the mighty MP4/4 was three seconds off the pace of its successor on some tracks. And the 2016 Mercedes was even further off due to the 2017 regulation changes.
The MP4/4 is literally a decade older...
@@lancia-037 and the 2017 merc is a decade younger
@@zafrylaiman8695 CARS WERE SLOWER BACK THEN
Agreed
@TheAmateurLancia the MP4/5 was 2 or 3 seconds faster on most tracks!
If there’s one car that represents F1 to the fullest that’s got to be the one. Back then even people who weren’t interested in F1 at all knew who Schumacher was and always associated the sport with that legendary Ferrari. Posters of it were everywhere. Not a single domination afterwards has struck such cultural impact. Not Alonso, not Vettel, not Hamilton. Schumacher to F1 is what Jordan is to Basketball. The ultimate icon and face of the sport.
Couldn’t agree more
-Ferrari: Let's add it Racing stripes to make it faster
-Sponsors: No.... Add Marlboro logo and I guarantee you the victory
0:16.
The fact Kimi took a 1 year old car to the final round of the WDC in 2003, is one of the most impressive things I have ever seen in this sport.
I can't see Hammy or Vettel doing that. They're both overrated.
largol33t1 different times with different regulations. Ferrari used their 2002 car also until Spain 2003. with the regulation changes and the Time improvements of the modern era it is impossible to use a car of the year before
@@hsghanau94 Not really. Even Brundle at the time said it was the mark of an all time great driver than Kimi did that. The most impressive thing about Kimi that season was, that he outperformed the car in massively in qualifying, and usually, drivers go back down the field, after outperforming a car in quali. But Kimi didn't he somehow made up ground or kept position. Which is seriously hard to do. Imola 2003, Monaco 2003, Nurburgring 2003 all come to mind. Not to mention Australia, Malaysia, Indy, Brazil, Monza and others.
Ciaron Smith i never doubted Kimis accomplishments with McLaren. I only pointed out that in the last years it was impossible to use an old car, because of the regulation changes (tyres, aero, halo, etc.) :)
@@largol33t1 different era and regulations... Back then teams have unlimited number of testings,developments can be done and also the regulations weren't as drastic as it is now.. Also back in 2003, Ferrari used their 2002 car for the first 4-5 races until Barcelona and that car was still as competitive as the Williams and Renaults who all use their 2003 variants.
It’s always been a pet peeve of mine when people always spew out that Ferrari/schumi dominated 2000-2004. 2000 and 2003 came down to the last race and 2001 had multiple winners and multiple pole sitters. 2002 and 2004 we’re dominant. Hell ..... 2002 Juan had a ton of impressive poles. Enjoyed the video.
2001 was dominant. Schumacher had 9 wins and the next best was his brother (lol) with 3. Poles don't mean much if you can't win (or even finish) the race. 15 wins out of 17 in 2002 is almost as dominant as a team can get.
@@retsoptihs0 2002 MSC 100% podium finish record for ALL races that season. MSC was on the podium for every single race. Still the only Schumacher record HAM is unlikely to ever beat.
the same goes for mercedes, no?
No, 2000 came down to the penultimate round
2020: The car so bad it shocked *Williams*
😔
@@missouriresole4726 Yes I'm a ferrari fan,. yes im sad
2021: The car so bad it shocked Haas
That rule change cost Schumacher another championship, what a joke
Cry
@@Plardo Cringe
@@Plardo it also caused the 2005 US GP, everyone cried during that.
That rule change made a competitive scene, instead of one more year Ferrari domination. It wasn't a clever rule but did the job...
@@zsolttoth5876 no
I'd like to see some slick tyres on it. Just imagine....
Mick Schumacher just drove this car on slicks at Mugello.
2004: Car so good it shocked Ferrari
2014/2020: Car so bad it shocked Ferrari
@@dotalord6665 well Mercedes just improved their car in the later half. They just won the development race at the end.
@@dotalord6665 haha, go and search about it, every team bring in some upgrades during race weekends. If you don't know about f1 then please stop discarding others genuine points. Don't make a fool of yourself again by commenting such bs.
@@dotalord6665 haha go and learn about f2 before teaching me.....
That was a cheap win for Alonso and Renault in 2005 as FIA did everything they could to stop Ferrari from winning. And then some idiotic clowns still dare to claim that FIA favors Ferrari lol.
More so because Raikkonen was parked on the side of the track in a cloud of smoke nearly every weekend
@@richboy900 He wasn't a part of Ferrari in 2005 moron
@@J.G.Wentworth69420 he is referring at Kimi's 2005 McLaren campaign moron :)
Alonso never deserved 2wdc and kimi deserved that
You have it the other way lol. It was Ferrari who cheated and lied their way to get Renault out. Michael parked his car in Rascasse and denied Alonso the pole.
I don't know how many times I will return to this video just to admire the beautiful F2004 car. I just can't get enough of it.
The 2005 rules were indeed to bring an end to Ferrari domination, and it was the right call just like in 2009, now the FIA doesn't seem all that interested in putting an end to the V6 hybride embarrassing era for F1.
Ferrari wasn't all that dominate, in both 2000 and 2003 McLaren was so close, the same goes for Williams, for one simple reason back then teams could develop their cars not like now when basically they are all stuck, Mercedes got lucky with their engine design the others weren't allowed to develop theirs, and this year the rules essentially eliminated the last weakness of the Mercedes namely tyre temperature.
Aston Martin, Porsche and Lamborghini went to negotiate simplification changes. Guess who blocked it. 😂
@@F1ll1nTh3Blanks *Ferrari* 😂
@@F1ll1nTh3Blanks Ferrari?
You can't really complain when Ferrari keeps blocking everything the FIA does to try to even the playing field.
The FIA needs to stop budging to Ferrari demands every time they *threaten to leave the sport* and just do what's necessary to bring some type of parity to F1. Money distribution based on *merit* would be a good start.
But ferrari have had a faster engine this year. How can they put an end to v6 hybrid, should they go to 4 cylinders or all electric?
Music in the background is just great
Meanwhile in 2019.. "The car so bad it shocked ferrari"
Doesn't help the tactics are just as bad... if not or worse.
Now its all about Mercedes
as they investigate how something must have gone right.
Moptimus Prime no he would not
More like the master plan so good it shocked ferrari
Which looks better ?
The Ferrari F2004 : like
Mercedes right now : comment
@@kukuc96 Ferrari looks like an old livery on a modern ish car
Ιάσων Σιάκκας its not just the
Looks, its the sound of that
Engine dude. Holy crap, it puts
Chills up your spine lol they
Sound like a bad fart now.
The 04-08 are the best looking cars of the 00's. The 2017 car is an improvement on the disasters that was the 12-16 designs but it looks too clinical for me.
Merc
@@kukuc96 Get your hands out of your pants, this comment thread is about *aesthetics* not performance.
Videos like these are important.
The 2004 cars were fucking beautiful, small, light, nimble they looked modern and yet timeless.
When I think F1 car I think of the 2004 cars.
It wasn't just the car that was amazing, but the team effort-spirit and atmosphere in the pits, between Schumacher and the mechanics. Something you will never see between Hamilton and Mercedes.
Hamilton blames the team if something goes wrong, refer to Monaco 2021
@@stepladder3257 your too selective
true, true , and definetely true.
Here in India back in 2000's, No one knew F1 but Schumacher was a popular name.
The Kimi of 03 gosh, if only... the cars of 04-08 were some of the best looking and no cars since has looked better
it was a perfect balance between aggressive and raw experience
McLaren mp4-20 best looking f1 car imo. Sadly one of the most unreliable also
Im really liking the gen 3 fe cars. Theyre what f1 could look like if there arent any bans on wheel covers (if I remember correctly it was so the car design is old school and connected to its roots)
The sound production on this video is absolutely fantastic!
Great Job!
Notice that every single person mentioned is not Italian and also is no longer with the team
Aldo Costa
Agreed, Brit engineers made them to win back there
@@doublestufpenguin which worked for Mercedes as well in the years when they started developing the incredible car they rolling today on track. So Italians are good in F1, the biggest problem Ferrari is facing now it's just terrible strategy and lack of engine developement possibly due to the specs of the V6 hybrid engines: keeping track of solid reliable power units and integrating them with power and speed is often an underrated task, a task even companies like honda and renault are struggling immensely with. Give us V12 back and probably the front row would see better fighting and much more intense overtaking :/
Notice that Kevin Barry is stupid
@@OltrePodcast_Official V12 is never coming back and stupid SF did this to themselves. AM, Porsche and Lamborghini said let us simplify the motor, make them more affordable and competitive. Stupid SF said no way Jose. Now sit back and enjoy them pull themselves too pieces till 2021, maybe they will learn their lesson from this. 😁👍
the greatest looking f1 car of all time
Not only was it fast it sounded awesome along with being the best looking F1 car they ever made.
When I think of an f1 car, this is the one I think of.
And I only really got into f1 this year. That's how iconic it is.
Excellent editing and sound design on this video, im impressed.
A faster car despite some regulation changes (I remember in 2004 the rear wings only had 2 planes instead of 3 used before, also only 1 engine per driver per weekend).
"only 1 engine per driver per weekend" ah..the good old days (though this season would have been far less close if this was still the rule)
In the early years of Rory’s career I had the pleasure of meeting him. A true gent and turned out to be a fantastic engineer.
This and the MP4-4 are the greatest race cars ever built in my opinion. Senna and Michael were so lucky to drive those cars to championships.
When manufacturers were free to develop their car their way, not with all the specs written on a FIA document
Lol this is completely wrong. Still had as many rules.
That engine sound was glorious!
When you feel down, look back on the good times. 😂
Sad but true :(
I love how they potray the car as a villian with the dark music. It's like the car is saying " oh you almost had me last year, I'm gonna eat you alive this year"
Technically Alonso didn't end anything in 2005. He got lucky Kimi's McLaren kept failing, Kimi also beat Michael in 2005 in the final standings.
But the real question I have is:
How did Kimi Raikkonen win in a 2004 McLaren at Spa against the F2004?
How overrated was Alonso, that he couldn't win a single race in 2004?
TFC Oblivion ignore this troll
He just wants to give praise to Kimi or Jarno all the time
@@henrywhatzal4724 I'm not a troll. Schumi is the GOAT, but he was past his prime by 2003. Alonso didn't win a race either in 2004. That is shocking. The Renault and BAR were the closest cars to Ferrari in 2004. That's trolling? Lmao.
@tubehows4life you do know he beat all of the drivers you mentioned right?
And he almost won a championship in the 4th best car if michael shumacher didnt give seb a free championship?
In 2005 he won in the 2nd best car, kimi lost because of his preformances and an unnecicairy DNF at the nurburgring cause he didnt stretch his tired and broke the suspention.
Fernando isnt perfect but he deserved the 2005,2006,2010,2012 championships.
In 2007 he beat rookie hamilton dont act as if lewis stomped him cause he didnt, lewis also got lucky at some points in the season. But thats okay lewis is a good driver thats on the same level as fernando, but saying kimi deserved 2005 is like saying massa deserved 2008 or saying that fernando deserved 2013.
You are in fact a troll and you definetly dont know what you are saying.
Fernando isnt overrated because if the engineers say he has a bad car and they say he was preforming outstanding every race then enough is said. Hamilton and button are also great drivers so saying that fernando isnt special for beating them is foolish. Lewis is a 5 time wc and jenson is a 1 time wc and fernando beat them.
I think you'll find that technically he did. The word technically means according to the facts, try looking it up in the dictionary. The facts show that technically Alonso won the 2005 (and 2006) title and that Raikkonen technically won the 2007 title.
@@khanveldwachter1994 He fluked in 2014 against Kimi. Kimi could not drive that car as he wanted, the setup, handling of the car massively favored Alonso. Alonso praised the handling of that car several times, while Kimi couldn't hit a single apex.
Here in 2022 and almost crying by the beautiful sound track of that glorious V10 😍😢 Damn I miss that
Ferrari SF90H: the car so good (at testing) it shocked no one
By that time, it was consensual to say that the car had been designed around the new incoming Bridgestone tyres (and a little headstart...), and that made for all the difference in performance... So in a way, it was a different type of thinking + It takes someone like Schuemacher to take advantage of it.
I remember Raikonnen (?) throwing his chances of winning the Drivers championship, while leading the race !
Like Verstappen today, Michael new his tyres better than anyone else on track. Thank you for the video!
Anyone has this on recomanded just now? Today's Ferrari Is a bike not a car
As a major Moto GP fan, taking either of the Arrabiata corners flat out is mind blowing.
can we get a longer version of this?! this was so amazing and epic
Jelo Feliciano if there’s any sort of interviews with team members,there’s no way we can get in depth look at such a story
Great video, fantastic content as usual and the music and the editing makes it even better!
Ruebens Barrichelo lap record of Monza which he made in the F2004 is still unbroken.
For anyone wondering what the song is called, it's "Reflection Space" by Alex Arcoleo.
I've never been a smoker, but the damn livery is just great. I'm lovin' it.
"the car is too fast, something is wrong" that's a starter line to get a job at Ferrari
We all like unpredictability in F1,but one has to admit,if there's 1 team to dominate year after year,it better be Ferrari.
Watching en energy drink company dominate 2010-2013 was painful,although one has to also admit it was well deserved,because they did too good of a job.
Those are times when the Ferrari team use to be family, cars were made with heart and passion, but now the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing.
F2004: you beauty!
my all-time favorite :)
I watched that beast live back in the days.
How ironic this video got recommended on the 2020 season
This is so well made. Are you by any chance thinking of making some long-form videos in a similar style? If not, you should consider it. Maybe covering legendary seasons of old? With this kind of presentation, that is something I would definitely watch .
The Marlboro ads have helped "smoking the competition"
This is the Ferrari I want to see again.
The F2004 in the hands of the master is a brilliant combination. The f2004 in someone’s else’s hands, is nothing...
one of the best looking cars in F1
Rory Bryne and Aldo Costa, both rank up there with Adrian Newey, John Barnard, Gordon Murray, Colin Chapman
Actually, James Allison should be in that list.
@@sekhyhybrid6701 He's semi-retired from MB, but has designed the 2013-2018 F1 cars for MB.
@@katout75 Not possible. Allison joined Mercedes in 2017 and was also responsible the Benetton B195 (by far the succesfull car for that team without cheating) for the dominating Ferraris from 2000 to 2005, the Renault of 2006 and the Mercedes W08 (2nd half of the season), W09 and W10 EQ Power+. To me that's a pretty solid career if you ask me.
@@sekhyhybrid6701 I meant Aldo Costa, he's semi-retired now living in Italy. Previously he lived in the UK designing the chassis for MB after leaving Ferrari. I agree Allison is a great asset to MB, but he's never been the chief chassis designer. He's sorta like Ross Brawn as both were Technical Directors at very successful F1 teams, but neither AFAIK chief F1 chassis designers like Chapman/Murray/Barnard/Newey/Costa/Bryne
I hated this car because it was obliterating the competition and if I remember correctly it was used halfway through the following season too because it was that good
Hate the other teams for not bringing their cars up to speed.
Same like this season, am not mad at Mercedes, am mad at Ferrari (and red bull) for not matching them
When you accidentally create the most perfect formula one car in the existence of the sport without loop holes in the regulations.
The old cars looked so damn good and beautiful
Ferrari makes a car that is way faster than everything ever seen in f1-
Ferrari: lets find out what we did wrong
*starts huge investigation
I remember this season my beloved Ferrari were unbeatable and my beloved Arsenal were Invincible. It was a great sporting year for red teams ♥️
Here after the 2022 F175 is leaving the front pack itself in dust
Back when the cars were aesthetic
2022: The car is good, Ferrari can’t handle it
The f175 has a chance to become the spiritual successor of this legend
I had this in one of the old gran turismo games and it was super smooth and glued to the road
2022: Car so good Ferrari had to fire all their strategists to afford to build it.
I loved F1 in the 90s and early 00s. I doubt Ferrari were shocked. Ross Brawn was a genius and Ferrari would have known what they were making. The engine was superior. But after Schumachers legacy its sad to see the decline.
Fast forward to 2022 and history is repeating itself
2004: We are so fast. Something is wrong
2020: We are so bad. Something is wrong
Hungarian GP 2022: The strategy so bad it shocked Ferrari
2022: A McLaren MP4/20 which shocked the ferrari strategists because of the plethora of ways they can now exhibit to ruin their drivers' race
2nd song is very wonderful.
We need the music at the end of the viedo what is it ?
"The focus of the 2004 car was to lower the center of gravity and improve weight distribution. Also, many body parts were redesigned to improve air flow." Very much the same forward thinking concept of the 1988 Mclaren mp4-4 that dominated with Senna/Prost.
Until Ferrari puts together a dream team like this again (i.e. Schumacher, brawn, todt, byrn, costa), it is going to be a long drought until they see success like this
2022 : The car so good It shocked ferrari
Wow, great video. Thank you.
When F1 was incredible and the cars looked and sounded amazing
Looks can be debatable, sure sound can't beat the V10s, both era are incredible to me but in terms of progress & technology, current era is truly the pinnacle of motorsports, at least for the technical advancement.
When f1 was f1. Around the schumacher/hakkinen era