The Cinematic Legacy of Venom

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    Venom is the most popular Spider-Man villain to ever exist. So popula that he was forced into spider-man 3 on sheer recognition alone, (clip) was the main selling point of marvels spider-man 2, generated his own popular comic series, Has his own film series that will become a trilogy, is a heavily merchandised character, and will likely become a huge part of the mcu, So yeah, its pretty clear that venom is monumental in terms of recognition, and with every piece of spider-man media, means that venom will eventually become involved,using one of his many backstories. There are typically 3 origins for where the venom symbiotic came from. And with each new addition to his origins, a new element would be added to the character. So let’s briefly go over each one.
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    Intro: 0:00
    Secret Wars: 1:18
    Adaptations: 3:24
    Crashed Alien: 5:31
    Adaptation: 8:05
    LabGrown: 15:35
    Adaptations: 18:37
    END: 20:24
    Thank You For Watching
    #venom #marvel #spiderman
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  • @WarpingFist
    @WarpingFist  4 місяці тому +46

    Do you prefer it when Venom is a rampaging monster or a campy anti-hero?

    • @PuzzlingHousing56
      @PuzzlingHousing56 4 місяці тому +14

      I don't see how he can't be a bit of both

    • @NadeemShekh-uy9zn
      @NadeemShekh-uy9zn 4 місяці тому +11

      I like both

    • @smileysuburban8146
      @smileysuburban8146 4 місяці тому +10

      monster to criminals, campy anti hero to everyone else

    • @Joecbg100
      @Joecbg100 4 місяці тому +6

      Bit of both, when he's in action, monster, in private, could be campy but maintain the edge

    • @jessemillan1385
      @jessemillan1385 4 місяці тому +6

      616 Venom: King in Black/Lethal Protector
      ULTIMATE Venom: Bloodthirsty Beast

  • @178laaleros
    @178laaleros 4 місяці тому +158

    Fun fact about the creation of venom in the comics todd MacFarlane who co created venom said that he created venom because he got tired of drawing spiderman in the black suit and decided to give someone else the black suit.

    • @The_Blue_Otaku
      @The_Blue_Otaku 4 місяці тому +19

      From what I heard in a old interview Todd didn't like the black suit and just wanted to draw Peter in the classic red and blue... Which I don't blame him I would have thought and wanted the same thing if I was in his shoes

    • @lofi_njb
      @lofi_njb 4 місяці тому +1

      @@The_Blue_Otakuso if he didn’t create venom, would Spider-Man have worn the black suit permanently?

    • @haydenk3091
      @haydenk3091 4 місяці тому +3

      @@lofi_njb I thought Venom was created by a fan

    • @lofi_njb
      @lofi_njb 4 місяці тому +6

      @@haydenk3091 Spider-Man’s black suit was created by a fan during a survey. The idea of venom was created by McFarlane, which was inspired by the black suit.

    • @hugoalvarez8307
      @hugoalvarez8307 4 місяці тому +2

      ​​@@lofi_njb He wasn't wearing the symbiote at that point. He was wearing a cloth version of the suit, given to him by Black Cat. He changed suits depending of the writer. Todd McFarlane didn't like to draw It, and because he was so popular, they created Venom and made Peter stop wearing the cloth version

  • @bobathebountyhunter3956
    @bobathebountyhunter3956 4 місяці тому +54

    Ultimate venom is such a creepy concept in the ultimate spider man game it truly made him a horror monster that haunts peters life . i wonder if the new ultimate spiderman run will be able to top this version in desing and horror elements.

    • @Joecbg100
      @Joecbg100 4 місяці тому +7

      I think the creators described him or it as a walking tumor in parts grown from Spider-Man, Scary.

  • @jessemillan1385
    @jessemillan1385 4 місяці тому +32

    616 Venom: A Lethal Protector and The King in Black
    Sonyverse Venom: A symbiote with a childish and goofy demeanor that has a habit of Eating people's brains in a comedic way
    Ultimate Venom: A Ferocious, Carnivorous Beast that stalks the night and lurks in the dark.
    I love Venom in the 616 continuity because of his will redeem himself due to his relationship with Eddie Brock's son, Dylan.
    Ultimate Venom however is a merciless Monstrosity that shows no mercy to destroy everything in its path.

    • @Blublublu23
      @Blublublu23 4 місяці тому +5

      I love Sonyverse Venom because he's the best 🖤

  • @poweroffriendship2.0
    @poweroffriendship2.0 4 місяці тому +34

    The scariest form of Venom is the one where the Symbiote used Peter as a host that he can put some dirt on everyone's eye.

  • @Joecbg100
    @Joecbg100 4 місяці тому +86

    Without this connection to Spider-Man, Sony's Venom feels like a less layered Venom and more like The Mask.

    • @WarpingFist
      @WarpingFist  4 місяці тому +23

      It's fascinating to see how they substitute aspects of Venom's origin in which Spider-Man played a massive role, but he feels incomplete somehow.

    • @Joecbg100
      @Joecbg100 4 місяці тому +12

      @@WarpingFist is a facsimile. A copy of a better character on the page. He has no anger,there's no emotion.hes just dude who gets body jacked by a caddy alien suit.
      Pfft....

    • @brucardi
      @brucardi 4 місяці тому +8

      I actually disagree. While Spider-Man does play a big part in his origin I think the Sony movies handled it well not having a Spider-Man tied to him.
      In his own comics he’s pretty much an anti hero. He protects people that are too weak to protect themselves just lethally. When Spider-Man Isn’t on his on mind he’s a pretty chill dude.
      I feel like they did a good job taking what worked from his solo runs while giving him an origin that made sense without the need of Spider-Man.

    • @gladiatordragon6245
      @gladiatordragon6245 4 місяці тому +5

      ​@Joecbg100 the Sony venom movies are actually pretty accurate adaptations of Venom as a character if they erased Spiderman, they got the personality and dynamic down.

  • @Tonzalolyt
    @Tonzalolyt 4 місяці тому +32

    They should have made the venom movies rated r They legit wasted Carnage in a pg13 movie lol 😭

    • @WarpingFist
      @WarpingFist  4 місяці тому +18

      He was kinda treated as a joke instead of a terrifying monster

    • @The_Blue_Otaku
      @The_Blue_Otaku 4 місяці тому +6

      ​@@WarpingFist Honestly Venom may look and fight like a pure beast but he always acted like a goof ball heck even back in the 1990s comics he acted almost like how he did in the first Venom movie

    • @spider-man500
      @spider-man500 4 місяці тому +4

      ​@@The_Blue_Otakuaccept he STILL started out as a villain

    • @Blublublu23
      @Blublublu23 4 місяці тому +4

      @@spider-man500 so characters can't grow or change after their first appearance?

    • @annikafanpage1745
      @annikafanpage1745 3 місяці тому +1

      They in the multiverse remember, there is many variations of carnage. He'll be back

  • @PuzzlingHousing56
    @PuzzlingHousing56 4 місяці тому +14

    What about crashed alien slime that's lab grown?
    For the reason why Venom goes after Spidey and the aggression is because of Peter's memories of his foes and believes he is a better Spider-Man than him
    At least that's what I think

  • @caelanestes4624
    @caelanestes4624 4 місяці тому +8

    3:53 I believe the Avengers sequel isn’t adapting the first Secret Wars and instead it will be adapting the other Secret Wars story. Y’know the one that erased the Ultimate universe and brought miles into the 616 Universe.

    • @WarpingFist
      @WarpingFist  4 місяці тому +2

      Is that the one they’re adapting? I haven’t heard anything about that.

    • @radrno7
      @radrno7 2 місяці тому

      It's the main reason Russo Bros won't be directing it. They wanted to make Beyonder and Battle World like the 80s version, not the recent Doctor Doom multiversal war version.

  • @HelenaSan425
    @HelenaSan425 4 місяці тому +8

    Venom is such a great villain in Spiderman
    And One of my favorites!

    • @shamasali7754
      @shamasali7754 4 місяці тому

      And anti hero

    • @user-jj5pm4xo6n
      @user-jj5pm4xo6n 3 місяці тому

      @@shamasali7754 hes a great villain but an awful antihero imo..

    • @shamasali7754
      @shamasali7754 3 місяці тому

      @user-jj5pm4xo6n no his best stories are him being an anti-hero

  • @lewisaino
    @lewisaino 4 місяці тому +7

    I remember that in FBook people would put Anime Characters with the Venom Symbiote 😂😂😂

    • @WarpingFist
      @WarpingFist  4 місяці тому +5

      I remember fan art of Nine Tails Naruto fighting Susuke with the Venom Symbiote on
      Inner demon vs inner demon

    • @lewisaino
      @lewisaino 4 місяці тому

      @@WarpingFist Za Warudo Dio

    • @AxisChurchDevotee
      @AxisChurchDevotee 3 місяці тому

      Waifus do look good in it.

  • @ChristianGriffinOfficial
    @ChristianGriffinOfficial 4 місяці тому +10

    I Loved This Video, Do A Video On The Development Of The 2017 Power Rangers Movie.

    • @ultimateslinger9857
      @ultimateslinger9857 4 місяці тому

      I don’t much like that movie, but the idea of a video on it sounds awesome

    • @ChristianGriffinOfficial
      @ChristianGriffinOfficial 4 місяці тому +1

      @@ultimateslinger9857 The Reason Why It Fucking Sucked, Is Because Lionsgate Wanted A Franchise, But Saban Only Wanted One Movie, And Then A TV Series, Production Originally Started At 20th Century Fox, But Later Moved To Lionsgate As A Result Of The Cost Of The Film.

  • @teflonjohn4018
    @teflonjohn4018 4 місяці тому +8

    I love venom from the cartoons and comics.... hate how he's portrayed in the movies.... Eric Foremans version was closer than Tom Hardy's somehow.

    • @Manuelaiello204
      @Manuelaiello204 4 місяці тому +1

      I mean venom’s personality in the Venom movies was pretty accurate to the one In lethal protector (with the only difference being that it’s the Symbiote that has this personality and not eddie

  • @henrygambles3652
    @henrygambles3652 4 місяці тому +5

    Maybe Venom for the MCU isn’t Eddie Brock but Mac Gargan(Scorpion)

    • @Goku23864
      @Goku23864 4 місяці тому

      Nope

    • @Goku23864
      @Goku23864 4 місяці тому

      It's going to be Eddie Brock

    • @Goku23864
      @Goku23864 4 місяці тому +1

      The mcu will use Eddie Brock

    • @henrygambles3652
      @henrygambles3652 4 місяці тому

      @@Goku23864 I would like it to be but then wouldn’t that create confusion with the Tom Hardy version? They’d need to make their take on Venom different from Sony’s and making it another Eddie Brock may confuse certain audiences!

    • @Goku23864
      @Goku23864 4 місяці тому

      @@henrygambles3652 venom 3 is tom Hardy last venom flim

  • @Pascanchik.
    @Pascanchik. 4 місяці тому

    Great video!

  • @j.Rod1000
    @j.Rod1000 3 місяці тому

    I might seem a little biased because Spiderman 3 was the only film I ever first saw Venom when the film came out even though he wasn't perfect I like the effort they put in the makeup so he would look realistic.

  • @jimmiebenton2821
    @jimmiebenton2821 4 місяці тому +4

    Yesssirr!!! Warps the 🐐

  • @greendragon5682
    @greendragon5682 4 місяці тому

    awsome video warping fist 👽👽👽👽

  • @skepticaltheorist
    @skepticaltheorist 4 місяці тому +2

    They’ll be able to do venom in the mcu Sony venom’s last movie is this year. Secret wars(without delays) will be released in 2027 and I guess that spider-man 4 will happen maybe 2028 or 2029 if we’re lucky.

  • @eckoalbino1623
    @eckoalbino1623 4 місяці тому +2

    They never really addressed the plot thread of a piece of the Venom symbiote being stuck in the MCU Earth (616) in the mid-credits of NWH. No mention of it hopping around and bonding with various hosts. And since Spider-Man 4 is most likely going to be street-level, I'm not sure if the whole symbiote plothole is gonna be addressed. Maybe not until Avengers: Secret Wars?

  • @ibexis
    @ibexis 4 місяці тому +1

    Funny that Sony can actually use Spider-Man in their Sonyverse movies but they don't for some reason
    Maybe because the Sonyverse they don't want to mess with the MCU by using Tom, Tobey's story has basically had its conclusion and it being confirmed that it isn't the same universe as TASM

  • @Temprix
    @Temprix 2 місяці тому

    7:56 Does anyone know the name of this song? I really like this part

  • @tobiaspegues7318
    @tobiaspegues7318 4 місяці тому +1

    Nice video. Are you gonna see Madam Web next month

  • @Styrophoamicus
    @Styrophoamicus 4 місяці тому

    Remember when people theorized that the movie "Life" was actually a secret prequel to "Venom"? That would have been pretty cool, honestly.

  • @garfielflasaga1781
    @garfielflasaga1781 3 місяці тому

    Have you considered making a vid about the cancelles factor 5 superman game?

  • @lewisaino
    @lewisaino 4 місяці тому +4

    The Movie somehow helped the Games

  • @NadeemShekh-uy9zn
    @NadeemShekh-uy9zn 4 місяці тому +2

    Have you seen Ang Lee's Hulk movie and the 2008 speed racer film I like those movies alot really unique

    • @WarpingFist
      @WarpingFist  4 місяці тому

      The last time I saw And Lee's Hulk was 10 years ago.

  • @BigNutJuice
    @BigNutJuice 4 місяці тому +1

    nice

  • @NadeemShekh-uy9zn
    @NadeemShekh-uy9zn 4 місяці тому +2

    Do videos on the fantastic four and X-Men movies

  • @toomberrebmoot9244
    @toomberrebmoot9244 4 місяці тому

    My only issue with a rated R Venom portrayal is that he would make such a cool horror villain that I feel it would be too easy to turn him into The Thing/Blob in terms of body horror.

  • @LordSleven
    @LordSleven 3 місяці тому

    Still love the way the symbiote looks/moves in sm3 way more compared to all the other versions

    • @user-jj5pm4xo6n
      @user-jj5pm4xo6n 3 місяці тому

      Spider-man 3 was really good and had a good venom imo.

  • @f7or1n
    @f7or1n 4 місяці тому +3

    you couldve mentioned the comics used for spiderman 3 like you did for the rest instead of passing it fast

    • @WarpingFist
      @WarpingFist  4 місяці тому

      I wanted this to be about their many Origins and which media pieces adapted them. It wasn't structured like a traditional version of these videos for that reason.

    • @f7or1n
      @f7or1n 4 місяці тому

      @@WarpingFist it just puts it in a bad scene and makes it seem intentional

  • @The_Infamous_Boogyman
    @The_Infamous_Boogyman 4 місяці тому

    Missed ya buddy

  • @TheBlindFighter
    @TheBlindFighter 4 місяці тому

    I like that venom is at the same height as the hulk

  • @jahdorose8659
    @jahdorose8659 3 місяці тому

    Great video but Spiderman was never confirmed to show up for more avengers movies

  • @mangaloveranix8412
    @mangaloveranix8412 4 місяці тому +3

    Venom in Earth-1045 for Marvel's Spider-Man 2 is like the most ferocious, defiantly irritating boss. I prefer him. I can't wait to see MCU Spiderman vs. MCU Venom or MCU Spider-Man facing to dress into MCU Symbiote Spider-Man. I lovely appreciate Ultimate Venom. He is made as a secret human weapon. He wants to keep on wrecking the life of Peter Parker until he sucks into a trap.

    • @shamasali7754
      @shamasali7754 4 місяці тому +2

      And one of the worst written

    • @dreamybulllxxx
      @dreamybulllxxx 4 місяці тому +2

      idk how some of you people like venom in spidermid 2. he's literally just hulk. just a giant raging beast only to be a giant raging beast. not at all threatening to peter himself and is just a threat to the entire world, because insomniac wanted a large scale cosmic threat for their esg sweetbaby marvel movie written game

    • @Dachin55555
      @Dachin55555 2 місяці тому +1

      @@shamasali7754No not really

    • @Dachin55555
      @Dachin55555 2 місяці тому +1

      @@dreamybulllxxxThat’s what makes him badass and dangerous

    • @shamasali7754
      @shamasali7754 2 місяці тому +3

      @Dachin55555 not really it removes everything unique about him he doesn't stalk peter , he doesn't use mind games to play with peter , and he doesn't even shoot webs

  • @MarvelSonicFan04
    @MarvelSonicFan04 4 місяці тому +2

    I'm early

  • @shamasali7754
    @shamasali7754 4 місяці тому

    So why is venom's name is venom in Spider-man 2 even though he doesn't want to kill spider-man

    • @dreamybulllxxx
      @dreamybulllxxx 4 місяці тому

      because big scary angry popular monster villain. the people who wrote sm2 were NOT spider-man fans. they focused more on pushing political bullshit to comply with dei standards

    • @user-jj5pm4xo6n
      @user-jj5pm4xo6n 3 місяці тому

      @@dreamybulllxxx agree

    • @Dachin55555
      @Dachin55555 2 місяці тому

      @@dreamybulllxxxDamn you really can’t accept a new adaptation of Venom lol be quiet goofy ah

  • @iamme4494
    @iamme4494 4 місяці тому

    TBH I fear Eddie Brock in the 90’s

    • @WarpingFist
      @WarpingFist  4 місяці тому +1

      90's Eddie Brock isn't real, he can't hurt you

    • @iamme4494
      @iamme4494 4 місяці тому

      @@WarpingFist he felt real

  • @MrDumdumkilla
    @MrDumdumkilla 4 місяці тому

    With the hate towards Tom Hardy Venom. Just dont bother with it then. Maybe they wont make pt.3 and you can be happy 😂. Its not that bad as everyone makes it

  • @user-jj5pm4xo6n
    @user-jj5pm4xo6n 4 місяці тому +5

    Controversial opinion but i bloody love topher graces venom.

    • @dreamybulllxxx
      @dreamybulllxxx 4 місяці тому +2

      its good. raimi did what he could with a character he didn't really know or care about. a few things about the adaptation is iffy, but overall topher and raimi did a decent job. at least, much better than stuff like sony venom or spidermid 2 venom

    • @Goku23864
      @Goku23864 4 місяці тому

      ​@@dreamybulllxxxmid maguire is the worst adaptation of Spiderman

    • @Goku23864
      @Goku23864 4 місяці тому

      ​@@dreamybulllxxxSam Raimi ruined the character of spider man

    • @dreamybulllxxx
      @dreamybulllxxx 4 місяці тому +1

      @@Goku23864 okay insoymniac fan 💀💀💀 people that hate peter parker and wrote sm2. you're definitely no more than 12 years old

    • @Goku23864
      @Goku23864 4 місяці тому

      @@dreamybulllxxx blud mad that Tobey trilogy was complete garbage same with his villains 😂😂

  • @joker-sh5hv
    @joker-sh5hv 4 місяці тому +1

    The venom movies are terrible and do literally nothing right when it comes to venom. Tom hardy does fine playing tom hardy.

  • @2cool-he6ih
    @2cool-he6ih 4 місяці тому

    Make a cinematic legacy of Superman video dude