Schumacher’s Lost Batman Film

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  • Опубліковано 7 чер 2024
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    Everyone remembers Joel Schumachers Batman Duology. A film series that’s typically seen as a sortve dark age within Batman’s cinematic history. However, Schumacher didn’t always intend to create a series of light hearted films and had wanted to create something darker that fans would love. Batman Unchained, the third film of Schumachers Batman films.
    Intro music by Karl Casey @ White Bat Audio: / whitebataudio
    Music in the rest of the video is via • Lofi But Awesome
    INTRO: 0:00
    EARLY DEVELOPMENT: 1:20
    Vision: 3:50
    Batman Killing: 6:13
    Plot: 8:00
    Cancellation: 15:16
    Outro: 16:25
    Thank You For Watching
    #batman #dc
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  • @thewarrior0734
    @thewarrior0734 6 місяців тому +51

    This is what I would have liked the Batman saga to be like in the 90s:
    1. Batman 89s
    2. Batman Returns
    3. Batman Continues
    4. Batman And Robin
    5. Batman Triunphant

  • @CrazyClown4_25
    @CrazyClown4_25 6 місяців тому +19

    There was another script for Batman 5 called “Batman DarKnight” (yes that’s the actual title).
    Written by Lee Shapiro and Stephen Wise.
    It was heavily inspired by The Dark Knight Returns as it saw an older Batman who had retired and Dick Grayson now in college.
    The villains were Scarecrow and ManBat but I’m not too sure who was considered for the roles of the villains this time around.

    • @ii-mp1sp
      @ii-mp1sp 6 місяців тому +1

      Yes, I also heard about it, there the role of the Scarecrow was predicted for Jeff Goldblum, and Man-Beta is the actor who played Zod in the old Superman movies (rumors say so to an extreme extent).
      There was still a script in the Wachowski brothers' debut only Batman and Scarecrow, it can be found on the Internet.

  • @SOBEKCrocodileGod
    @SOBEKCrocodileGod 6 місяців тому +7

    People who only know Joel for Batman & Robin often dismiss his talent. I have a soft spot for his cheesy Batman movies, but the dude was genuinely a great director. The Lost Boys was a fantastic film and I feel like Batman Unchained could’ve been great.

  • @Dom_510
    @Dom_510 6 місяців тому +15

    Still waiting for a Batman movie with Scarecrow as the main villain. He has so much potential and could lend for a very psychological story. I hope reeves uses him in his trilogy

  • @ashtonbyrd3686
    @ashtonbyrd3686 6 місяців тому +26

    I have my respects to Schumacher. At least, he knows how to handled Batman but got screwed by WB. Batman Unchained would have the potential to be a great movie but got done dirty by multiple things which caused it’s cancellation.

  • @bensneb360
    @bensneb360 6 місяців тому +55

    Seeing The Scarecrow as the main villain would of been cool, I hope we still do some day

    • @ricardomiles2957
      @ricardomiles2957 6 місяців тому +1

      i mean, didn't nolan already did that? He was working for Raas yes but he worked on his own MO, if Raas wasn't in the picture i don't think scarecrow's plan and actions would've changed much

    • @Dom_510
      @Dom_510 6 місяців тому +10

      @@ricardomiles2957I love the Nolan movies but lets be real. That was not the best depiction of the character, so much more could be done with him.

    • @ricardomiles2957
      @ricardomiles2957 6 місяців тому

      @@Dom_510 yeah but not because of bad writting but because he was unfortunate to be in the origin film. What he had was good acting wise but for him to have more development all the story with the league of shadows needed to be cut to give him more screen time

    • @Dom_510
      @Dom_510 6 місяців тому +4

      @@ricardomiles2957 I didn’t mean to indicate I thought he was badly written, that’s not the case. My issue is that he’s really not more than a henchman in the movie and doesn’t have a lot of screen time. In my opinion scarecrow is one of Batman’s best villains who is worthy of being a main villain in a movie. The other thing I didn’t like was his character design, I get that Nolan was going for grounded realism but giving him his full scarecrow costume is not really unrealistic.

    • @WTFisTingispingis
      @WTFisTingispingis 6 місяців тому +4

      I think that could lead to a way different movie, more psychological.

  • @low-budgefudge2164
    @low-budgefudge2164 6 місяців тому +5

    8:27 dang, bro couldn't even say his name 😭

  • @johnwells5414
    @johnwells5414 6 місяців тому +9

    I can see a very loose, albeit unintentional, story arc for Batman across the four films. Batman 89 he doesn’t really kill until the end of the film. He’s found his parent’s killer, the man who directly traumatized him as a kid, the man who made him terrified, who destroyed this kid without a care in the world. Bruce has finally found him. He doesn’t care anymore. All he sees is his tormentor. So he kills him and his men who are just as devoid of humanity as him. He saved Gotham, but lost his soul.
    Batman Returns, he sees that killing stopped the Joker. So why not take out any other criminal that comes his way? How else are they going to stay down? Until he meets Catwoman. The two are the same, “split, right down the center”. She’s a mirror for Batman, a living embodiment of revenge and killing. She “dies” getting her revenge against Shreck , slapping Bruce’s offer of a normal life, where they can heal together. He swears off killing.
    This would be why Gotham is lighter and more neon color like. Batman has made Gotham slightly safer, so the citizens party.
    Batman and Robin Gotham has become a playground.
    So part 5 could have brought that hypothetical arc full circle

  • @justingatcomb8966
    @justingatcomb8966 6 місяців тому +4

    The unchained script I have says that Harley was not the daughter of the joker but a circus clown with Dick who was infatuated with the Joker from afar. An obsessive fan girl who could see no wrong in her idol’s actions and blamed Batman for murdering her beloved before they could meet. Dick had conflict with his childhood friend over her hatred of someone he sees as a hero triumphing over a murderer, meanwhile Batman felt immense guilt being seen as hero and confronted for murder he did commit

    • @Ultriac301
      @Ultriac301 Місяць тому +1

      I've read that script as well. This was either an early draft or fan made.

  • @therizzler0609
    @therizzler0609 6 місяців тому +9

    Nicolas Cage as Scarecrow would have been 🔥

  • @Dagoodtree
    @Dagoodtree 6 місяців тому +17

    I started watch your channel when the joker 2019 Easter eggs and you have gotten really good at engaging viewers, great job👏

    • @WarpingFist
      @WarpingFist  6 місяців тому +5

      That was like one of my first uploads. Thx for sticking around for so long.

    • @ii-mp1sp
      @ii-mp1sp 6 місяців тому

      @@WarpingFist Good evening, can you review Tim Burton's "Superman" and George Miller's "Justice League"?

  • @WTFisTingispingis
    @WTFisTingispingis 6 місяців тому +11

    I think Joel absolutely got the worst treatment possible with Batman & Robin, he was very capable of some outstanding movies, but the suits basically ordered him to make a glorified toy ad.

  • @toddbryan5818
    @toddbryan5818 6 місяців тому +4

    This would've been a good ending to Tim Burton's universe if he continued the movies.

  • @GPerez-qi7dp
    @GPerez-qi7dp 6 місяців тому +4

    Wow! Courtney Love as Harley Quinn would have been phenomenal, I think she would’ve been the definitive groundbreaking roll for the character just as Michelle Pheiffer IS the Cat Woman!

  • @ii-mp1sp
    @ii-mp1sp 6 місяців тому +2

    By the way, DC is going to release at the end of this month the comic "Batman 89: Echo" - a continuation of the previous comic-sequel of Batman Burton, which, judging by everything, will be based on Batman Unchained.
    The main villains there will be the Scarecrow and Harley Quinn.

  • @Albino_Basilisk
    @Albino_Basilisk 6 місяців тому +3

    There’s a comic coming out that may potentially use the remains of this film so we’ll see if that ends up being true

  • @baki484
    @baki484 3 місяці тому +2

    Serious respect for Joel Schumacher apologizing.
    These days directors just blame the fans.

    • @yushayasad3676
      @yushayasad3676 2 місяці тому

      Honestly, it wasn't even his fault. WB hired him to make a flashy campy batman movie that would sell toys and he did that. WB should be the ones apologizing

  • @jamessoto7652
    @jamessoto7652 6 місяців тому +3

    It pisses me off that folks complan that snyder's batman kills even though he's really inspired by frank miller's version yet batkeaton was kind of more phyopathic and strghts up kills joker compare to batfleck it's like if valture went to a DC universe and became anti-hero like the punisher

  • @chrissqn_aep
    @chrissqn_aep 6 місяців тому

    Bro YOU ARE AMAZING continue!!!💪🏻

  • @ratedtriplex
    @ratedtriplex 3 місяці тому

    When i was a kid, I remember reading a short article in the newspaper about the next Batman movie (Forever) having a lighter tone.
    Fast forward to the Etv premier of Batman Forever and what stuck out to me was every celebrity they interviewed like Dean Cain (Lois and Clark) saying it was " a great movie for the kids" or something like that. And I'm like, oh no.....oh no....
    Luckily I enjoyed the movie. Then came Batman and Robin.

  • @Cotygeek
    @Cotygeek 6 місяців тому +8

    I'm not going to lie: I kinda dig the armored batsuit at 3:07.

    • @WarpingFist
      @WarpingFist  6 місяців тому +5

      Armoured Batsuits slap hard when done right. The Arkham Knight suit is still peak

    • @Cotygeek
      @Cotygeek 6 місяців тому +1

      @@WarpingFist I'm actually not the biggest fan of the Arkham Knight suit. A number of the design elements just don't add up to a cohesive design. I actually think the Arkham Origins suit is better if we simply must put Batman in armor.

    • @low-budgefudge2164
      @low-budgefudge2164 6 місяців тому

      @@Cotygeek It's okay for you to have the wrong opinion :)
      (jk)

  • @greendragon5682
    @greendragon5682 6 місяців тому +4

    I think batman forever is fine film with a beautiful style this video was awsome

    • @JDoe-gf5oz
      @JDoe-gf5oz 6 місяців тому

      Best film in the franchise.

    • @theotherguy21
      @theotherguy21 6 місяців тому +3

      I've Definitely come to appreciate it more over the years I wasn't born when it came out originally but I did shit on it and batman and robin I honestly appreciate both of them more now because they were very comic book like while Burtons was more brooding

    • @Rorschach97
      @Rorschach97 6 місяців тому +2

      It's not my favorite Batman movie but I still enjoy it.

    • @JDoe-gf5oz
      @JDoe-gf5oz 3 місяці тому

      @@natereacts312 That was Batman & Robin.

  • @NICK349B
    @NICK349B 6 місяців тому +1

    Bro this needs more views 😭

  • @178laaleros
    @178laaleros 6 місяців тому +9

    Even back then warner Brothers was a pain in the ass to work for. I personally think WB made a huge mistake getting rid of tim burton joel has made some great movies i do not understand why they did not let joel make a darker batman film he even one time said he wanted to do batman year one but Warner bros once again making huge mistakes.

    • @WarpingFist
      @WarpingFist  6 місяців тому +7

      In general, WB is a pretty reactionary company. One thing goes wrong and they try to course correct. Every time they’ve done it its lead to worse and worse products so Im not sure why they keep doing it.

    • @nalday2534
      @nalday2534 6 місяців тому

      Because dark is boring

    • @goodguybrian9764
      @goodguybrian9764 6 місяців тому +2

      ​​@@nalday2534no because dark scares kids and there parents get upset, that's the actual reason from tim buttons own mouth, they didn't like the disturbing and weird elements as it turned away kids, and then we eventually got a glorified toy commercial with Batman and Robin, Batman is best when he's dark in his solo stuff if u want a lighter tone team him up with other heroes like superman or the flash etc

    • @nalday2534
      @nalday2534 6 місяців тому

      @@goodguybrian9764 Lego Batman is awesome

  • @bendyboy7179
    @bendyboy7179 6 місяців тому +2

    I really fuckin hate over protective parents.

  • @kkduds3119
    @kkduds3119 6 місяців тому +10

    How am i this early????

  • @oronk60
    @oronk60 6 місяців тому

    I like thay first one. Looks really cool.

  • @somerandomfan2096
    @somerandomfan2096 6 місяців тому +1

    Next Batman Forever The Schumacher Cut

  • @theromanticavacodo
    @theromanticavacodo 6 місяців тому

    I like watching your Videos while I draw

  • @billmcdermott9647
    @billmcdermott9647 6 місяців тому +1

    Has it really not been released. I used to have it on my computer but lost it a few years ago

    • @WarpingFist
      @WarpingFist  6 місяців тому +1

      I found a copy at a yard sale a few years back, so maybe that was yours

  • @Damin-Danger-Ledford
    @Damin-Danger-Ledford 6 місяців тому

    What was the name of that guy who narrated creepy videos that also talked like this?
    Wasnt it Scary, uh, something?

  • @christhekappa399
    @christhekappa399 6 місяців тому

    Hey, Can u do a video of the unused concepts of the Live Action The Cat in the Hat and Grinch Movies?
    I know they're not superhero movies.

  • @DrOD-zx1yb
    @DrOD-zx1yb 5 місяців тому

    8:25 LOL

  • @henrygambles3652
    @henrygambles3652 6 місяців тому +1

    What is it with 90’s DC Comics films kicking Nicholas Cage in a major role, first Superman and then he was intended to be Scarecrow!

  • @michaelm7900
    @michaelm7900 6 місяців тому +2

    Cant wait for this film

  • @Ultriac301
    @Ultriac301 Місяць тому

    Fun Fact: Bruce would have been wrecked by guilt for the death of Edward Nygma/The Riddler. It would have been revealed that as a result of the massive brainwave absorption because of Batman's batarang, Edward grew a massive tumor in his brain which lead to his death.

  • @willybonka5235
    @willybonka5235 6 місяців тому

    Do the concept art of Batman Arkham knight

  • @tobiaspegues7318
    @tobiaspegues7318 6 місяців тому +1

    How are you enjoying Spider-Man 2 for PS5?

  • @optimascrime5235
    @optimascrime5235 6 місяців тому +1

    If WB wasn't so desperate on making a qwick buck and let the directors have thier actral creative vision we would have either got a dark third entry in Joel Schumacher's batman trilogy, or a darker version of Batman forever or even a movie based more on Batman year one or the dark night returns....But of course the 90's was the first decade to start the cash grab kid pandering seqwals,That most kids over the age of 10 hate because even kids know when they're being pandered to

  • @b_dotdizzy3558
    @b_dotdizzy3558 6 місяців тому

    8:24 just say dickey next time 😂

  • @MMASpeakZ
    @MMASpeakZ 6 місяців тому

    Batman arkham series is mid

    • @averagebreadconsumer9489
      @averagebreadconsumer9489 6 місяців тому +6

      No

    • @MMASpeakZ
      @MMASpeakZ 6 місяців тому

      @@averagebreadconsumer9489 yes

    • @MMASpeakZ
      @MMASpeakZ 6 місяців тому

      Mid doesn't mean bad the games are okay except arkham knight that game sucks it has good aspects but the games are overall okay and they are overhyped

    • @chadvolk7178
      @chadvolk7178 4 місяці тому +3

      "Mid"

  • @moshymosh
    @moshymosh 6 місяців тому

    If there's one thing I can still appreciate about those projects was the concept art and the ultimate gothic tone

  • @stancowski2687
    @stancowski2687 6 місяців тому +1

    My dad met the person who played batgirl and she said she hated wearing the suit lol

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