The directions for the ERP say idle at 1200 RPM for a MINIMUM of 10 minutes (Which should start after the engine meets operating temperature). For their $330 kit that's used by shops they recommend 3000RPM for 45 minutes. FOr this can, I've found that idling at 1200 RPM for 30 minutes gave consistently good results for oil consumption caused by stuck oil rings. Followed by new oil/filter run for a few days/few hundred miles and then a new oil/filter change for the normal cycle of 3000-4500 miles
I did this kit 2 yrs ago on a 2012 prius and replaced PCV valve. I had been using 1 quart in less than 500 miles. Probably due to listening to the 10k oil change interval recommendation. The kit reduced it to 1 qt per 1000 miles for a few months then consumption increaased again. So now i use seafoam in oil and gas tank and flush motor every oil change w standard motor flush from Oreillys. It only controls it a bit. No permanent fix. Replacing or cleaning the pcv valve is only temporary too since the cause is carboned up rings and EGR system. Use swivel long handle w deep socket for PCV valve.
So, 2 years on, how is this faring? Would love to hear. My prius consumes oil above 110 km/h. It's been doing that last 2 oil changes. So as long as I stay below 110 roughly, it doesnt consume ANY oil. So wondering if I should do the above
Hi! Thanks for the good information. I have a question. Should you account for the additive when refilling the crank case with oil, or put the whole four and a half quarts of oil in with the additive.
I know this is an old comment but for anyone else who may cross and be curious: Add the additive first, then add oil until "full". In general, you dont want to overfill the crankcase/oilpan. Hope this helps. Cheers!
I bought the rulline 350ml catch can and screwed the PCV valve into the out. That's where I moved it to , this way I can just unscrew it and vlean it out. I comes also with a 1/4 nosel that screws into the engine block and the I cut the U shaped hose that connects the PVC to the intake and put in a 1/4 connector. You can remove the air box and reach under to get to the PVC without taking off the intake manafold
I'm always leery about putting unknown additives in my car. I installed an oil catch can in my 2010 Prius and it uses no oil at 118K. I wish you had put a borescope inside your cylinders to see if there was any buildup.
@@AEVMU I use Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 0W-20. I don't drive much so I change it once a year 2500 - 3500 miles. I recommend not going over 5000 between changes.I don't care what the manufacturer recommendations are. They're not going to replace your motor when it burns oil.
I get you didn't have a funnel but everyone has paper. You can use a paper funnel for the oil. It won't work for coolant because it gets soggy but for oil it's perfect and dirt cheap.
Is the hybrid BG MOA, EPR and 44k a different formula than the regular BG formulas, or do they both contain the same formula with a "hybrid" label to increase sales? Not to sound cynical, just wondering if the Hybrid line is the exact formula with a higher price tag?
I don’t know how a hybrid gas engine is different from a regular gas engine. I didn’t think there were any differences like that from an oil flow and buildup perspective.
If you Prius owners change your oil every 5k miles or every 6 months you would never encounter this issue. I have 200k on my 2010 prius, zero oil consumption issue. I highly suggest to do a full EGR , EGR cooler clean and Full Throttle body and intake manifold cleaning and replace your PCV valve at least every 100k miles. Your Prius will be very happy
The manual calls for the removal of the old PCV valve at around 1-2--- KLMs. I changed my PCV and still absolutely no oil consumption between changes,at 5000 miles.
I have that problem in my 2010 Prius. it's cost like 80$ and most of the comment are not good. I just going to keep putting a little bet of oil every 2,500 miles. because I change my oil every 5,000 miles any way. My car had about 130,000 Miles already
I performed this as preventative maintenance as oil consumption and carbon build up around the piston rings is quite common on the 2010-2011 models. No oil consumption at 102k (roughly 15k after the maintenance)
@@HEVTech1Another and better way to prevent the ring build up and sticking. Is just to change oil more often in my opinion. Then you get the sot out and have clean oil that then can keep the oil rings also clean. Otherwise it is like trying to clean with dirty oil full of sot. That is impossible. It is like mop the floor with dirty water and try to get the floor cleaner..than the water is.. That is Impossible 🙅 The recommended manufacture oil service intervals are proven to be far to long. And are there only to serve them and not the buyer. In short they make sure that any issue fall outside of warranty window. But they got their buyer in competitions against other car manufacturers.. In other words if car manufacturer A say oil service intervals at 1000km and car manufacturer B says 1500km. And everything else is the same.. Guess whichever car the buyer choose.. 😂 So the plan is: Sell a car but make sure that the oil consumption should develop outside of the warranty period.. Job done. 😢
The stuff is of no use for the issue. Tried similar BG products ERP on my Gen 3 Prius with Oil Consumption. No difference on oil consumption at all after.
once the cylinder wall is damaged no amount of cleaning will help, also the piston ring can be messed up beyond repair.... so this and oil change, oil catch can , clean pcv egr intake would be preventative
@@ophrasbankaccount7716 probably more the EGR system, which gets clogged. A deep cleaning of the EGR system is a Must! Maybe install a catch can, but that only catches most of the oil blow by, but not all. Usually, the rings will need replacing if it is already burning oil. These piston soaks don't typically work, but you might get lucky
Here in Russia we use en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimethyl_sulfoxide which is a very cheap and you can buy it in a drug store. It is a very strong solvent and can easily dissolve all deposits from the piston. But be very careful with it, as it also removes paint from engine oil pan and other internals, which can clog up oil passage. Again! Be very careful with paint inside the engine!
Then it will cost you A LOT of money. So, forget about it. Or if you insist, find a Kenyan in the US who will not steal your money, then ask them to buy it for you and ship. Send them the money. It will cost you too much money that you will say it does not make sense. So, forget about it.
NO NO NO. the oil is burning because of the PCV valve is side mounted on the bottom of the engine and recirculates back to the intake where it get burned. The only solution is to move the PCV to a higher position so the oil can go back to the engine and install a oil catch can " see oil catch can videos
Yes, that's my plan. I purchased the hose... though prefer to fabricate a metal tube from the original PCV Valve location to besides the EGR Radiator/Valve area where the PCV Valve will be relocated. I started making a video on I think... or at least posted on my FB. Though I got paranoid about having a rubber hose from the PCV stock location to the new location. My plan is to match the metal used at the stock location to prevent corrosion potential issues as well. Once I move forward on that plan... I think I'll be OK with installing what I've invested in so far. Might be rings as well since can get up around the pistons if the rings get stuck most likely my guess is due to not changing oil enough or more likely running with low oil for longer intervals.
some of these do have ring issues, you can install 10 catch cans, and it's not going to solved the problem of oil consumption. The prius like the same years Scion TC (which burns nearly a qt every 6-800 miles right out of the factory. The only solution for this is to replace the rings, which should be done n paid for by toyota. The prius benefits by keeping the egr system clean, but some of them just burn oil period. If that is yours, then ring replacement is most likely the only solution
Does anyone understand how hard those tabs are to pop, at least on the original poping with your fingers is impossible. He just popped it like a soda can nice.
@@HEVTech1 I was thinking man he made that way to easy, even tried going and doing it after I saw your video and I was like nah she isn't coming off that way haha.
The Atkinson Engine uses a bit of oil due to the action of the valves... It is Normal... As far as contaminants on the oil side... Only use High Quality Synthetic Oils ( Amsoil ), Amsoil Filters (or WIX) and MotorKote Hyper-Lubricant at 2oz per quart... Change before 10,000 miles ALWAYS... Also, don't buy off brand gasoline as it contains several different additive packages... I personally use only Shell Products in my area... I also use a MotorKote fuel additive every 3rd tank or so... 2 oz per tank !!!!! I have read that those harmful chemicals are terrible on the many plastic and rubber parts in the systems...
I installed this in one of my 2010s which had 90k+ miles. It was not yet burning oil so it was a preventative maintenance measure. I will follow up next oil change interval and again after 50k miles on if it may have prevented a common issue from occurring.
Oil consumption is caused by a bad pcv valve. A simple yt search should give an idea of what you need need t replace it. It’s not hard at all and the oem part is cheap. (eBay)
I have a tip for you Put bg epr and drive it for 50 miles at under 2000 rpm and do repeat as needed Bonus tip At 2000 rpm on high way Down shift an let off the gas padel multiple times while doing your 50 mile trip
First of all good video Second of all, no offense but putting the empty can in a bag and then in the trash means theres a sealed flammable mini bomb in the landfill now. This is straight from the material data safety sheet "Waste packaging should be recycled. Incineration or landfill should only be considered when recycling is not feasible. This material and its container must be disposed of in a safe way. Care should be taken when handling emptied containers that have not been cleaned or rinsed out. Empty containers or liners may retain some product residues. Vapor from product residues may create a highly flammable or explosive atmosphere inside the container. " Apparently you should have just rinsed with water and recycled the can
$4800 buys a lot of oil. Tell him to take a hike and just check your oil every 1000 miles. I have a 2010 also with high oil consumption. I heard it was only the 2010 but ;looking at these videos it seem to be any Gen 3
@@svvalmika9612 It IS the Gen III models... Design Flaw in materials... Contact Toyota and NIHTSA... TOYOTA will issue a recall on their dimes... Someday...
The directions for the ERP say idle at 1200 RPM for a MINIMUM of 10 minutes (Which should start after the engine meets operating temperature). For their $330 kit that's used by shops they recommend 3000RPM for 45 minutes. FOr this can, I've found that idling at 1200 RPM for 30 minutes gave consistently good results for oil consumption caused by stuck oil rings. Followed by new oil/filter run for a few days/few hundred miles and then a new oil/filter change for the normal cycle of 3000-4500 miles
How do you idle at 1200 without sitting in the car with your foot on the gas?
I did this kit 2 yrs ago on a 2012 prius and replaced PCV valve. I had been using 1 quart in less than 500 miles. Probably due to listening to the 10k oil change interval recommendation. The kit reduced it to 1 qt per 1000 miles for a few months then consumption increaased again. So now i use seafoam in oil and gas tank and flush motor every oil change w standard motor flush from Oreillys. It only controls it a bit. No permanent fix. Replacing or cleaning the pcv valve is only temporary too since the cause is carboned up rings and EGR system. Use swivel long handle w deep socket for PCV valve.
Piston soak with seafoam works for many prius owners.
So, 2 years on, how is this faring? Would love to hear. My prius consumes oil above 110 km/h. It's been doing that last 2 oil changes. So as long as I stay below 110 roughly, it doesnt consume ANY oil. So wondering if I should do the above
Cut a water bottles bottom off. They make great funnels.
Good video! Interested in seeing how well it works.
I just did this to my daughter’s Prius. We’ll see how good it works.
What's the results?
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Hi! Thanks for the good information. I have a question. Should you account for the additive when refilling the crank case with oil, or put the whole four and a half quarts of oil in with the additive.
I know this is an old comment but for anyone else who may cross and be curious:
Add the additive first, then add oil until "full". In general, you dont want to overfill the crankcase/oilpan. Hope this helps. Cheers!
I bought the rulline 350ml catch can and screwed the PCV valve into the out. That's where I moved it to , this way I can just unscrew it and vlean it out. I comes also with a 1/4 nosel that screws into the engine block and the I cut the U shaped hose that connects the PVC to the intake and put in a 1/4 connector. You can remove the air box and reach under to get to the PVC without taking off the intake manafold
I liked the content, I learned something new today. Thanks
I'm always leery about putting unknown additives in my car. I installed an oil catch can in my 2010 Prius and it uses no oil at 118K. I wish you had put a borescope inside your cylinders to see if there was any buildup.
What kind of oil do you use? What change interval?
@@AEVMU I use Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 0W-20. I don't drive much so I change it once a year 2500 - 3500 miles. I recommend not going over 5000 between changes.I don't care what the manufacturer recommendations are. They're not going to replace your motor when it burns oil.
I get you didn't have a funnel but everyone has paper. You can use a paper funnel for the oil. It won't work for coolant because it gets soggy but for oil it's perfect and dirt cheap.
Is the hybrid BG MOA, EPR and 44k a different formula than the regular BG formulas, or do they both contain the same formula with a "hybrid" label to increase sales? Not to sound cynical, just wondering if the Hybrid line is the exact formula with a higher price tag?
Different formulation
I don’t know how a hybrid gas engine is different from a regular gas engine. I didn’t think there were any differences like that from an oil flow and buildup perspective.
If you Prius owners change your oil every 5k miles or every 6 months you would never encounter this issue. I have 200k on my 2010 prius, zero oil consumption issue. I highly suggest to do a full EGR , EGR cooler clean and Full Throttle body and intake manifold cleaning and replace your PCV valve at least every 100k miles. Your Prius will be very happy
There you said it.
Don't forget the PCV valve!!!
The manual calls for the removal of the old PCV valve at around 1-2--- KLMs. I changed my PCV and still absolutely no oil consumption between changes,at 5000 miles.
Indeed remove the PCV valve give it a good carb cleaner spray. You should hear the ball rattling , if not spend another $8 for a new one.@@dcabana1
How is the hybrid 44k different from the normal type? Can it be used outside of this kit?
What kind of phone holder are you using looks good?
I have that problem in my 2010 Prius. it's cost like 80$ and most of the comment are not good. I just going to keep putting a little bet of oil every 2,500 miles. because I change my oil every 5,000 miles any way. My car had about 130,000 Miles already
Good video. I would love to hear how it works out for you. I have a 2015 Prius.
Did you notice any difference after the EPR flush and new oil?
I performed this as preventative maintenance as oil consumption and carbon build up around the piston rings is quite common on the 2010-2011 models. No oil consumption at 102k (roughly 15k after the maintenance)
@@HEVTech1Another and better way to prevent the ring build up and sticking.
Is just to change oil more often in my opinion. Then you get the sot out and have clean oil that then can keep the oil rings also clean. Otherwise it is like trying to clean with dirty oil full of sot. That is impossible.
It is like mop the floor with dirty water and try to get the floor cleaner..than the water is.. That is Impossible 🙅
The recommended manufacture oil service intervals are proven to be far to long. And are there only to serve them and not the buyer.
In short they make sure that any issue fall outside of warranty window. But they got their buyer in competitions against other car manufacturers..
In other words if car manufacturer A say oil service intervals at 1000km and car manufacturer B says 1500km.
And everything else is the same.. Guess whichever car the buyer choose.. 😂
So the plan is:
Sell a car but make sure that the oil consumption should develop outside of the warranty period..
Job done. 😢
The stuff is of no use for the issue. Tried similar BG products ERP on my Gen 3 Prius with Oil Consumption. No difference on oil consumption at all after.
Same with me. I've used it 3x, back to back. No resolve.
It’s because the issue is the pcv valve
once the cylinder wall is damaged no amount of cleaning will help, also the piston ring can be messed up beyond repair.... so this and oil change, oil catch can , clean pcv egr intake would be preventative
@@ophrasbankaccount7716 probably more the EGR system, which gets clogged. A deep cleaning of the EGR system is a Must! Maybe install a catch can, but that only catches most of the oil blow by, but not all. Usually, the rings will need replacing if it is already burning oil. These piston soaks don't typically work, but you might get lucky
Here in Russia we use en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimethyl_sulfoxide which is a very cheap and you can buy it in a drug store. It is a very strong solvent and can easily dissolve all deposits from the piston. But be very careful with it, as it also removes paint from engine oil pan and other internals, which can clog up oil passage. Again! Be very careful with paint inside the engine!
Hi, my 2010 Prius is consuming oil, I need this product, but there's no distributor in my country, how do I get it. Am in Nairobi, Kenya.
Then it will cost you A LOT of money. So, forget about it. Or if you insist, find a Kenyan in the US who will not steal your money, then ask them to buy it for you and ship. Send them the money. It will cost you too much money that you will say it does not make sense.
So, forget about it.
I have a 2016 Sonata hybrid with a GDI thats now using oil. I wonder what the difference is between this and the other flush?
Do a video on how to swap out that ugly dash console to a prius C
NO NO NO. the oil is burning because of the PCV valve is side mounted on the bottom of the engine and recirculates back to the intake where it get burned. The only solution is to move the PCV to a higher position so the oil can go back to the engine and install a oil catch can " see oil catch can videos
Yes, that's my plan. I purchased the hose... though prefer to fabricate a metal tube from the original PCV Valve location to besides the EGR Radiator/Valve area where the PCV Valve will be relocated. I started making a video on I think... or at least posted on my FB. Though I got paranoid about having a rubber hose from the PCV stock location to the new location. My plan is to match the metal used at the stock location to prevent corrosion potential issues as well. Once I move forward on that plan... I think I'll be OK with installing what I've invested in so far.
Might be rings as well since can get up around the pistons if the rings get stuck most likely my guess is due to not changing oil enough or more likely running with low oil for longer intervals.
Doesn't work for all.
some of these do have ring issues, you can install 10 catch cans, and it's not going to solved the problem of oil consumption. The prius like the same years Scion TC (which burns nearly a qt every 6-800 miles right out of the factory. The only solution for this is to replace the rings, which should be done n paid for by toyota. The prius benefits by keeping the egr system clean, but some of them just burn oil period. If that is yours, then ring replacement is most likely the only solution
Did you see increase in mpg with this bg fuel? I’m losing mpg in insight 2022 at 72000 miles at 34mpg
Does anyone understand how hard those tabs are to pop, at least on the original poping with your fingers is impossible. He just popped it like a soda can nice.
I may have gotten the tab loosened with a screw driver first, I know exactly what you are talking about 😁
@@HEVTech1 I was thinking man he made that way to easy, even tried going and doing it after I saw your video and I was like nah she isn't coming off that way haha.
Let us know if this works
Performance 7 months later?
The Atkinson Engine uses a bit of oil due to the action of the valves...
It is Normal...
As far as contaminants on the oil side... Only use High Quality Synthetic Oils ( Amsoil ), Amsoil Filters (or WIX) and MotorKote Hyper-Lubricant at 2oz per quart...
Change before 10,000 miles ALWAYS... Also, don't buy off brand gasoline as it contains several different additive packages... I personally use only Shell Products in my area... I also use a MotorKote fuel additive every 3rd tank or so... 2 oz per tank !!!!!
I have read that those harmful chemicals are terrible on the many plastic and rubber parts in the systems...
As you were not sure this would work I would like to know if it did
He is not replying for 10 month so probably didn’t work
Plz anyone tell me any better solution for this issue
Can I drive it around after putting the EPR for 10 to 15 minutes or does it have to be just idling?
The instructions said to have it idle so I would suggest not driving it for that reason.
Any update?
I installed this in one of my 2010s which had 90k+ miles. It was not yet burning oil so it was a preventative maintenance measure. I will follow up next oil change interval and again after 50k miles on if it may have prevented a common issue from occurring.
I've used this product 3x and it hasn't helped with my oil consumption.
Oil consumption is caused by a bad pcv valve. A simple yt search should give an idea of what you need need t replace it. It’s not hard at all and the oem part is cheap. (eBay)
@@ophrasbankaccount7716 Can be, but the majority of these oil burning issues is actually gummed/carboned up
oil control rings on the pistons.
I have a tip for you
Put bg epr and drive it for 50 miles at under 2000 rpm and do repeat as needed
Bonus tip
At 2000 rpm on high way
Down shift an let off the gas padel multiple times while doing your 50 mile trip
Caused by bypass due to stuck PCV valve.
@@lawrencekdog6243
MMO & 93 octane
My 2nd gen is burning oil. the mechanic pretends nothing is wrong
My Prius 2010 consuming oil I'm so confused for this issue
Start by changing your PCV valve.
First of all good video
Second of all, no offense but putting the empty can in a bag and then in the trash means theres a sealed flammable mini bomb in the landfill now.
This is straight from the material data safety sheet
"Waste packaging should be recycled. Incineration or landfill should only be considered when recycling is not feasible. This material and its container must be disposed of in a safe way. Care should be taken when handling emptied containers that have not been cleaned or rinsed out. Empty containers or liners may retain some product residues. Vapor from product residues may create a highly flammable or explosive atmosphere inside the container. "
Apparently you should have just rinsed with water and recycled the can
STOP changing your oil every 10,000 change it once a year or 5,000 which ever comes first.
Used it on my 09 still burns oil
Change your pcv valve
@@1marktran I already did still burns
@@SLVRFOX88 If it burns about 1/2 to 1 quart between oil change then it is normal.
@@1marktran it's 2.5-3 depending on if I go uphill more
Did you find a fix
Spend a few dollars and buy the BG funnel that snaps onto the can.
Funnel is cheap. lol
His engine blew up and he sold it for parts for $700 and bought a Tesla.
My dealer wants $4800 for replacing my rods and pistons at 118k on my 2010 Prius.
$4800 buys a lot of oil. Tell him to take a hike and just check your oil every 1000 miles. I have a 2010 also with high oil consumption. I heard it was only the 2010 but ;looking at these videos it seem to be any Gen 3
Your car worth less than that, i would not fix it!
@@svvalmika9612
It IS the Gen III models...
Design Flaw in materials...
Contact Toyota and NIHTSA...
TOYOTA will issue a recall on their dimes... Someday...
2010 was a specifically defective model year for this vehicle unfortunately. Surprised your car lasted as long as it did.
The rings were a recall item ...
Fixed on Toyota's dime...