5 steps to make your Hybrid battery last a lifetime! (Nobody knows)
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Toyota Prius or any hybrid car best was to make your hybrid battery last a long time. How to tell if the hybrid battery is good or bad!
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I drive 2010 Prius and love my car. Im living currently in Canada. So my 12V battery in the back failed the battery test but my car still starts normally. My question is am I damaging the big main battery by not replacing the 12V battery?
@@abhiabhi85 no that will not affect your main battery
Thanks for the information! Where are you located? I am looking to buy a new or used Prius... but I have a lot of concerns of used cars that was neglected...
@@reuzito southwest Missouri! Where are you located? We have many options of Prius’s for sale
@@carhub2178 I am in Utah, do you have a listing of available cars?
Today's hybrid vehicles have sophisticated battery Management Systems, so just relax and enjoy the ride.
The models I showed need what I said
@@carhub2178 you said your advice was for any generation and any year?
@@torsten9628 yes but the newer model haven’t had hybrid batteries start to go bad yet but rules still can apply
@@carhub2178 my Prius 2018 has 500,000 k miles and I live in a hilly area where charges my battery all the way this doesn’t apply to Lithium Ion Lead Acid most definitely don’t let them over charge and follow there direction. Keep those battery air filters and blowers is also very key and not parking in open hot spots crack those windows in the summer and reflective car covers help to. Mine is always parked in a garage most the time ~Chad James
Untill you get a defective cell made in China😂
Came to watch this video after having just replaced the hybrid battery in my 07 Camry Hybrid since I wanted to lengthen the amount of time before I experience issues again. Turns out, I just wasted my time. Some pointers for those of you new to or unfamiliar with hybrid cars; ignore what he’s saying about battery fluctuation. Battery fluctuation is an inevitable thing. The cars are designed in a way that utilizes the batteries for higher efficiency. They also combine with the engine to churn out a little more horsepower. Along with that, they also allow electric-only driving in cases of low speeds, i.e. traffic, parking lots, etc. In every case where your vehicle is moving, the hybrid battery has a say in it. Another thing, your engine is effectively a generator for the battery. When your battery gets low, the car knows to turn the engine on to charge the battery. The battery will also recharge when you coast or are braking. You also do not have to worry about overcharging the battery, as the cars computer would never let that happen. There is no “over-charge” indicator. Drive your car as you would normally. Yes, avoid heat, and yes, be sure to clean the cooling system for the hybrid battery.
I should also add; if you need your hybrid battery replaced, go on “besthybridbatteries.com” Toyota was going to charge me $4500 to replace my battery. I only paid $1850 ($1500~ before shipping) at the end of the day, and installed the battery myself. Not sponsored, just a recommendation.
Thanks
Where did you buy the battery?
Thank you! How expensive and how difficult was it to replace the battery pack?
Wow! Running 200 cars every couple of days and keeping them out of the sun must be a full time job!
Most are used for parts. But yeah you are right it is!
For real, Toyota has one of the best battery management systems in the world, although I agree with the video on 1-4, I fear that somebody is gonna get killed looking down at the dash to put it in neutral to keep the battery from overcharging in the green…when the system is already doing that adequately. Just saying…
Correct but these are things proven to work
I'm with you on this. Why would toyota make something that would keep you distracted like that putting the car in neutral and all that nonsense. If people really had to do all that, then toyota wouldn't be successful in the hybrid market. I started to think I didn't want a hybrid after watching this video but then the comment section knocked me back into reality. Only thing I can't compensate for is having shade everyday for the car, but I can do tinted windows that reduce heat by a lot and a sun shade
Get an odb 2 reader. The Prius "full charge" is actually 80% and the lower bounds (2-1) bar are 40% to 20%. The engineers at the time understood battery chemistry and controlled for longevity. I like did the shade tips as i noticed my battery gets quite hot under certain conditions (too long to specify) but other than that there's isn't much you can do to mitigate the heat. These are all I've found to work (after religiously looking at the battery temps). than leave the car on to run the hv battery fan while parked, using ac to keep cab cool, driving on a highway (fast) to create negative pressure around the right rear quarter panel helping to vacuum out hot air from the battery area (as the system is designed to do). Because driving on the highway it is only part of your route the next best thing is leaving your car on for roughly 15 minutes after parking to keep that hv battery fan running. Honestly, i wish i didn't even learn this stuff as it's made my life less convenient and likely doesn't affect the battery enough to matter.
Also it's illegal in most states to put your car in neutral on a public road way
to be fair, you're driving an ancient prius, not a modern toyota hybrid.@@carhub2178
Japanese maker designed that battery indicator to make people think it's full or empty but it's already engineered and implemented the 40-80 percent rule to prevent damaging the battery cell quicker. Without 40-80 percent rule, the battery will degrade fast in less than 5 years.
These are good tips if you really want to get the most years out of your Toyota Hybrid battery but I don't think Toyota Hybrids let their batteries charge over 80% or go below 20% under any circumstances so people shouldn't stress too much about the battery, the car does a good job taking care of the battery for you. However if you're not gonna drive the car for a long time then it is best to leave the battery at 50% because that's the battery's "happy zone".
Mine drops if it's hot and I use the air conditioner. Will it switch to gas only? And will it mess up the battery?
@@carmenceballos3397 The internal combustion engine might take on a greater load to simultaneously move the vehicle and recharge the hybrid battery, but Toyota knew what they were doing when they programmed these vehicles. As long as you have gas, your hybrid will never allow the battery to die even if it is being used to drive the vehicle and power accessories like the air conditioner. No need to sweat the health of your vehicle too much under normal operating conditions like driving with the A/C on.
Nice video! Hits the key points. I was always a bit frustrated that our Lexus ES300h battery indicator never showed a full charge. Now I know that's a good thing!
Switching on and off neutral and drive while driving can be taxing on the transmission for the 4 cylinder engine though which can cause issues when it actuates and deactuated the clutch in the housing. So it's good to monitor battery and what not, but being obsessive about it can cause damage in other areas....also it can cause you to wreck from staring at the battery monitor.
I really would like to thank you so very much for this info. Been doing it wrong but now I understand how my hybrid works. You are awesome.
You did well to cover the main areas of the hybrid battery! Though there is one more that should be strongly considered and that moisture with the 2nd gen! Always keep the area of the rear hatch seal area clean and clear of any debris especially where the hatch shocks mount to frame, also check the small compartments in rear for water any sign of water should be removed and dry immediately! I seen new dealer installed hybrid batteries failure in less than a year because of moisture!... Retired hybrid tech Thanks Nate
Can i aske you a question about my Hyundai sonata hybrid ..
Thanks for the tips. I just got my first hybrid and happy to have it so I wana make her last a lifetime! 🎉
hubby and I are new to hybrids. We bought him an '05 about a year ago and me a 2021 sienna last month. I am watching so many videos about hybrids now. This is so informative thanks for taking the time.
No problem! Here to Inform and help!
For anything Toyota check out youtuber CARCARENUT he’s a toyota master mechanic (hybrid specialist) just opened his own shop in Chicago suburb
I bought a Prius last month for DoorDash and have been watching videos about hybrids too lol
You forgot one - to clean the blower filter ( Specially if you have dogs ). in my prius c its under the rear left seat.
Thanks so much, this was very informative.
I had to learn these about my car THANKS FOR THE VIDEO!
You are welcome!
I found that avoiding heat is a great practice for any kind of battery. Looking for shade, tinting car windows and avoid the use of braking shift with uses electric motor to break and charge battery at the same time (B shift). Last one because lot of amps comes into battery when charging in this mode heating it as a result.
Good advice, thanks. Although, in some climates and in some roads is impossible to get this.
great vid once again, keep it up!
Thank you!
@@carhub2178 hey i figure i ask since u have experience with prius’s. Im having trouble trying to loosen the transmission fill bolt. Is there any technique u know of? I literally try so hard and that mf is stuck on there
Thanks for the lesson,I have just bought a toyota sienta hybrid 2017,I will use you tips
Thank you 👍
Best video I've seen for this
Thank you!
The battery management will control so tht it will charge only up to around 80% but you see it as 100% on your monitor
I live in the desert so avoiding the heat is impossible. I park in the shad as much as possible and when I’m driving the car I keep the ac as cool as possible. This is important because the batteries are cooled by taking air from the inside of your car and directing it to the battery pack to keep it cool.
@jeogug4751
How is the battery going with you so far bro?
And how much is the weather degree in your area?
Hope I will follow your advises for my 2006 Toyota Highlander Hybrid
Awesome!
How about making sure you clean the filters that let air circulation to the hybrid battery pack.
I am on my second Prius and contrary to those who say it is too stressful trying to keep up with the state of your hybrid I enjoy doing so. I worked for 30 years as an electronics technician so I am enjoying toying with the car to maximize both battery state and mpg. I sort of feel like the flight engineers of days gone by that managed all the aircraft electrical, fuel and engine systems while the pilots were concerned with just flying the plane. I am interested if there are any other technical types/engineers who feel like I do about the Prius.
I’m a Inventor & I like the Toyota Prius because it is a engineering Marvel & one of the greatest cars ever created as far as it’s performance.
I did an experiment with LiFePO4 upgrade. Since I let it ran on NIMH BCM it failed prematurely at about 50k miles after install. If I could somehow put another BCM or rewrite the programming to accommodate the LiFePO4 you are looking at 20 plus years of life
@@calicoesblue4703 here is the information 140 cells at 10 cells per block or 5 per module. But the BCM monitor per block so I’m sure you can figure it out as an electronic tech
@@calicoesblue4703 ordered LiFePO4 on Alibaba shipping and battery ran me over 300 bucks including shipping
Two things. 1. That Prius is dusty AF. Have you no shame? 2. Your last tips is not practical. Nobody drives like that.
Good tips thanks! after a few months of observation, whilst driving my 450h, it's like I understood the algorithm that manages the hybrid system; Feeling and observation are key to enjoying the ride of a hybrid.
Awesome tips thanks
No problem
I’m going to balance this advice with common sense. I use my car to commute on a highway in Florida. I want my battery to “last forever” but I also have other priorities in my love beyond monitoring the battery and optimizing my acceleration and deceleration every trip.
I find that if I just drive with a light foot on the gas, it solves most of this automatically. The other trick to using only the battery (to improve mileage) is to accelerate fairly rapidly to the speed you want, then take your foot completely off the gas for a second. The ICE will turn off. Then press the gas lightly as needed and the ICE will stay off until the battery is discharged enough for the ICE to come back on and recharge it. Again, this is fairly automatic once you get used to it.
Advising against Leaving ac on all the time sounds suspect; that’s what the hybrid system is designed for; it acts as a generator.
how does the AC generate power for the battery?
@@JeanPaulFernandes not sure if you're joking? The gas engine is the generator.
@@JeanPaulFernandes Actually when the AC lower the battery charge, the car will start the regular engine and charge the battery, so its not a problem to use AC all the time,.
Yur cars computer does all this by itself there is no need to distract yourself from driving worrying about the hybrid battery. The import thing about a hybrid is always to use the car. Its healthy for the hybrid battery to see a charge when your braking. Stay safe and focus on the road.
Correct but at some points your battery don’t need a charge
@@carhub2178 In that case, the car can use the MG1 to rotate the ICE (without fuel going into it) to burn the exceed energy. You cannot overcharge the battery when driving it but you can drain the battery if you shift in neutral.
Nice video. How you get a 100 mpg?
Hey buddy you seams to know a lot about Prius, do you know how to fix or what could I cause the P lock error? I already changed the hybrid battery and still there
Hey do the 2nd gen Prius hybrid battery use the same cells as in the 2012- Camry and Avalon hybrids ? I wanted to use those to replace my dying battery pack
Thank you so much. it really helped me. I removed the battery orange clip and forgot to press the clip when I putted back. as a result the car was not starting. after watching the video I double checked and the problem is solved.
Awesome!!
What removing orange clip would do to the car ? And where is that located ? Plz explain bit more
These are interesting points. I have a 2008 Honda civic hybrid. From what I know about hybrid batteries they have one thing in common with their ev counterparts they can't get overcharged as the hybrid system manages the state of the battery so that when you see 100% on the gauge it's really 95% also the system doesn't allow the battery to go to zero as the engine will kick in before it drops to the lowest bar on the gauge to recharge it. In short just drive your car normally and you'll be fine. My car 148k miles battery still perfect.
Not true. Just watched a video where someone was on their 3rd hybrid battery in their Prius. Turns out their regular brakes at all 4 corners were gone, so the regenerative braking was doing 100% of the cars braking sending too much juice to the battery and overcharging it.
Granted that person is an idiot, but it is possible.
What mileage does ur civic gives u?
@@alyankhalique888 in the summer I get 48 mpg (lots of highway driving with some local trips). In the winter I get 44 mpg.
@@MichaelWilliams-mo1vv wow that's an impressive average.
@@alyankhalique888 motorway journeys it's in the 50s
What about driving in neutral with automatic transmision? You Save battery to kill gearbox?
Thanks 🙏🏽
Take away :more focous on your battery than on road 🤟
I hope you have a reasonable solution to replace/ refurbish the 6.5 KW lithium batteries for the MB E350e.
Significant drop in e range, any advice for that model?
Hello I came across your video UA-cam. I just bought a 2015 Honda Accord hybrid with 147K miles should I be worried about the battery?
And the cooling filters need cleaning or replaced on hybird honda accord
You got to be a good driver to do the steps for number 5. Be careful not to get into an accident trying to fulfill requirements for #5.
Auris has an EV mode, that will pull the level of battery charge down
pretty quickly ?
Very interesting!
I wish my company knew this before they bought hybrid cars. It’s a constant mess with battery issues
Thanks so much.
Damn that was very helpful.Thanks!
What’s the highest mileage Prius you’ve guys seen?
Personally 450k but Iv heard about 800k miles
My friend baugt a 2012 sonata with charging system check ,any ideas on how to chare the hybrid battery
Excellent program! Thank you very much. i subscribed to your channel. These 5 points are all new to me.
By the way how often should I clean the hybrid fan and how much should I pay to clean the fan in my 2005 Prius?
Not very often but if you have dogs or pets the hair tends to clog it pretty quick
@@carhub2178 Thank you so much for your reply. It shows your kindness. I wish there were more people like you in this world. Best wishes!
How many degrees in Fahrenheit is to MUCH?
Got a 2020 KIA Optima Hybrid that has 185,000 miles on it, never followed any of these recommendations, and haven’t had a single problem with it so far, I guess these steps are for previous generations, the new hybrid cars are pretty much bullet proof.
Yes haven’t seen problems with the newer ones at all!
Thanks for this video! I have a Toyota Highlander and got a warning message telling me to check the hybrid system, pull over the vehicle immediately and call the dealer. Would you happen to know how we could diagnose exactly what’s going on and how to get it fixed?
If for some reason the battery is dead, is it possible to still charge it?
You are welcome!
Bhai Prius 2nd generation battery mein Kitne cells athe hai or aik cell k price
Toyota engineers have done a great job of making the car pretty foolproof. I own a 2010 with the original battery with 100,000 mi and it still has 80% capacity left.
How do you know the remaining capacity?
For laymen how to know battery capacity? What are those indicators to figure out the percentage 80% left or 40% ?
@@ccarniver Dr Prius app does a test that shows how long your battery can support all the load at idle with the engine off, Longer it can go without the engine the more capacity it has
@@appleoranges9772 I just replied to someone else on here look at that comment
Same here with my 07 with 160k , interestingly though my 08 with 98k only has 60%. The 08 was purchased used from southern Nevada where it gets quite toasty in the summer, 07 is from central Idaho where it's more mild.
Basic but good advise.
I have been researching and reconditioning few packs of hybrid battery cells from 2nd and 3rd generation prii on chargers, roughly testing them for two years, the BMS wouldn’t allow hybrid battery cells to be fully charged, so what you said fully charged on the screen is typically only 80% of max capacity to last ni-mh hybrid battery, or I would have to go through more than five cycles to max out discharge and charge capacity before last balancing step. Just relax and not overthink while driving, there are plenty of taxi prii over 500K miles with original hybrid battery packs, few even over 600K miles. I don’t know if lithium cycles last as long as ni-mh but those worked pretty well on my 2016 too. Another thing is that cold temperature doesn’t make hybrid battery cells work efficiently, it takes 10 to 15 minutes to warm up in winter especially those newer lithium batteries before getting 56+ mpg. In some cases, I still got 60+ mpg after 228K miles.
Also, the meter on the dash is probably not representative of the actual charge of the battery. Like the low charge would mean maybe 30% and max maybe means 70 or 80%
That's not entirely accurate, I checked the state of charge of the battery using the torque app and the lowest the % battery reaches is 59% (1 bar) and the highest is 67% (fully charged).
@@MonarchsOfBrotherhood They use the same to make the reding, dhaaa
Mine is consistently 40-75% which is still a really smart cycling system 👍
@@MonarchsOfBrotherhoodinteresting info. So hybrid battery never goes below 39% or above 67% for protection?
Why will my 2006 hybrid highlander not charging the traction battery until I'm off pedal around 80km/hr?
Hi, I have maintenance questions and you might be the best person to ask.
1. how long is your hybrid battery life experience? shortest and average?
2. how much do battery replacements cost
3. Are battery replacements hard to find/acquire for old models? Worried batteries of new cars now will have no stock in the future.
Btw, thank you for the tips.
I am thinking of buying a Yaris Cross Hybrid, but worried about those maintenance questions.
Hope you can help me with my questions. Thank you very much!
new toyota hybrids come with a 10-year warranty, but they can last much, much longer. the battery in the current corolla costs around $3k to replace, but, again, they can last 20+ years!
Many good points here but toyota already has a good BMS. I have never had to put my prius phev 2020 in neutral and i have put 25,000miles on the car. The BMS decides the best action, will turn on the engine when the battery is full. Also, your driver style matters alot. If you are gentle on the accelerator and drive within speed limits, it helps to preserve battery life.
I only use neutral at the car wash.
PHEV has a lot bigger battery, is a lot easier to manage with software or manually
What about not putting it in neutral at a traffic light.
Since it will refuse to charge the batteries that way..
Brother, what do you think about the prolong charger 🔌? Have you every used this / Any comments about this product ? THANK YOU 🙏
Have not used one before but heard they work pretty good
My Toyota voxy 2014m hybrid vehicle is sometimes parked for 2 months when I go on vacation and never experienced any difference when I return, it starts like normal and runs normally.
Yes and that’s what leads to shorter life on the Hybrid battery!
It is already set to work on 40-60/80% battery range so You can see on display this range as 0-100% - that is why they give extended warranty from 5 to 10 years if you do each year test... Info found on internet toyota forums. Also see comments below.
i have an 04 with 209000 Ive always done short/medium/long trips, I want to hit 300000- low rolling resistance tires help with ride quality & mileage ,Obviously diversified driving NOT sitting THX
You can get that easy!!
I don't know about the Prius, but with the Lexus hybrids (400h and 450h models), the engine will turn on automatically to make sure the 12V battery (not the hybrid battery) continuously charged, so that you can have your AC, radio, etc., still working should you are in a traffic jam -- note that you are in DRIVE gear not neutral.
I don't think the hybrid battery is the one that works the AC's compressor. It's the 12V battery.
Its not the engine that charges the 12v battery, its the hybrid battery. and the AC is driven by the hybrid battery. At least in a Prius.
Definitely AC is powered by traction/hybrid battery. If you had the curiosity to have a look over user manual, you should have known that.
Since I live in Southern Arizona where it gets a tad warm 8-) I do several things for my 2017 Prius 2.
> It's kept under a carport in the shade.
> I make sure there is nothing on the the rear right passenger back floorboard where the air intake to the big battery is located.
> When it's super hot I even keep the passenger dash vent aimed low and to the rear where it at least pushes cooler air toward that air intake to the big battery
> Lastly I'm checking and usually replacing that filter at the air intake about every six months cuz it gets a bitty dusty here too. That's cheap insurance if you think about it.
Conclusion: You take good care of your vehicle and it will take of you.
Very right!
What do you do if you are stuck in traffic?
@@carmenceballos3397 Not exactly sure what you are asking, sorry. I'm not out when it's real hot avoiding where I might get caught up in traffic. I do keep a Garmin on the dash and if I see congestion I look at the GPS then take a side street. I'm never in a hurry. 😁 Carmen, does that answer your question?
i did check on google ... it is saying ...Max on milege about 150k- 180k for life time on hybrid Battey ....thanks for that info 👌
my 2014 prius just had the 12v battery die. almost made 10y... way longer than I expected...and hybrid battery seems to be going strong. 207k miles and almost 10y.
I just saw video of another Toyota tech who said little battery should be changed every three years. He explained why but I didn't understand. Js
What’s the highest speed to use neutral coasting on?
there is no need to go to neutral. That lever is not friendly user for 2 generation Prius. Way too close to the radio knob.
I am looking to get a Prius V Five. What is the best year and options to get? Also does the Prius V Five have solar charging? Sunroof?
Where are you located
@@carhub2178 nyc
Thanks for your video. All these know how’s together with my Sonata “check hybrid system” warning that I constantly get makes me not want another hybrid again. Gives me anxiety to be honest with you. I have already been towed once in heavy traffic.
Yeah you don’t want your hybrid battery to go bad!
Your first mistake was buying a Hyundai hybrid and thinking all other manufacturers batteries are the same. Toyota makes a superior hybrid battery.
Hiii same thing here. Can you tell me whats the problem and how to slove it. Please
"conditioned like to stay healthy" What the hell does that mean. Sounds like advice from a 16 year old. He must have said "like" 20 times.
Is it not dangerous to free wheel
So, in another word, don't use your battery. that will make it last a lifetime... not very helpful, mate.
That still wouldn't make the battery last a lifetime😂
@@kshitijrajpoot736 If you never ever going to use it, then it is equivalent to lasting a life time... as a decorative piece of ugly art.
How do you keep battery out of heat, if I live in 110 degree most of year ?
just do not drive the car with out AC on.and leave thw windows a little bit open
i didnt know overcharging these batteries was a thing, thanks
It's not
Great advice! Could u tell me, I own a gen 4 limited w/17" wheels. Due to COVID era, my car sat alot. I DID chg 12v battery. Now I want to drive winter in my rust belt state but in need of 17" wheels to install for winter tires. Do Persona 17" FIT a gen 4. I wished I could find data that gives dimensions (I found for persona but not gen 4's) but I also would like to compare weight difference. I'm a senior and repect ur opinion. I've always ran 4 snow tires (tire rack recommends) on my 97 Camry & it was lile a tank. Thnx. Already sub'd /👍
I’m pretty sure they do have the same bolt pattern
Does being under the back seat not protect the battery from extreme heat?
cars can get over 200 degrees inside in the full sun
I am considering a Toyota Sienna van. I love everything about it except the hybrid engine. It’s primary use will be road trips and interstate travel and not an every day vehicle. Though it will get some limited use around town. Are hybrid engines a poor choice for this kind of use? Not a fan of other vans and Honda looks to be going hybrid with Odyssey in 2024. If the Sienna had a gas only engine it’d be a slam dunk. Any advice?
I love the Toyota hybrids. Electric car goodness without the electric car drawbacks.
No belts. No turbos. No superchargers. No GDI with out port injection. Efficiency tuned Atkinson cycle engine. Can sit at stop light with nothing happening but AC (and maybe radio). Gasoline engine only runs when needed to warm up, to assist the electric drive, and to charge the battery when needed.
Regenerative braking recycles some of the energy which you have paid for and reduces wear on the conventional brakes.
I forgot to mention no 10 or 11 speed torque converter automatic transmission. Just a planetary gearset with 2 electric motors to provide CVT action for the gasoline engine.
No sleazy unreliable belt style mechanical CVT.
All night AC electric compressor uses hybrid battery so camping in cold or hot areas is game changer as AC can be on all night.
Is there a indication to show the state of the hybrid battery
Yes on the screen inside
How long is safe to run AC while stopped? What’s a rule of thumb? No longer than?
When it's hot I never turn mine off (07 and 08 Prius) never had a issue.
When the hybrid battery is green the benefits is car get more power you can feel when it green and the engine not make much noise into the car and to keep the battery in blue range is easy just use the climate to M position this the experience is use it and have used hybrid vehicles 3 car already
I have 2013 Chevy Malibu. How can I know hybrid battery is near to dead. it is can notice of signs or others....
Not as good miles per gallon
I let my original 2005 prius sit a number of times for many months each time... my HV battery lasted 19 years, just replacing it now. So, sit time does not have a dramatic negative effect on the HV battery (non lithium anyway). Also, I've seen several people state that a Prius doesn't not like to be left in neutral for long periods of time, I forgot why.
Just make sure when leaving the car for a while that the battery it is charge.
This isn't quite correct as I understand it. The display doesn't show "empty" or "full" - just the middle 75% of whatever charge is possible. This is what gives the battery a long life - the management system in the car. Mine won't allow me to drain the battery flat or charge it so that it's full. A battery is never going to be completely dead, it would be ruined and not take a charge. It would explode or melt if it were completely excited or "Full". The graphic we see displays a sizable middle range of charging and at best guides us as to more or less available energy.
Yes sounds like good battery engineering
I use my break shift ( B) often when going downhill. My battery is on the bottom 2 line bar. Is that the reason why??? Please help!
if your battery doesn't get past 2 bars when going down hill in B mode, you may have a battery thats not holding charge...
Nice what's the deal with my 2013 V that is stuck on 77K miles vice the typical 299K we hear about? Everything else is working ok except my stupid permanent P0420 code that i'm working on :(
My shop upgrade the NiMH to LiFePO4 system. As you know LiFePO4 last 2-3 times as long and it’s new so you are looking a 20 plus years of hybrid battery life. The only problem is the BCM needs to be programmed for the LiFePO4 to last it’s maximum otherwise running it in NIMH setting will cause premature failure which is about 3- 4 years.
Are you sure? Toyota lithium battery warranty only 10 years or 150k miles.
@@kevtn8 Its still in the research phase. The BCM firmware would need to be upgraded as well. As of now they only last a few years due to the harsh condition
I have 2011 Prius, and when I'm getting close to home (say 0.2 miles) and driving slow, I can discharge the batteries a little bit by going into EV mode.
no need, just learn the pulse and glide technique...
So are hybrids dying in Texas and Arizona? I thought batteries delivered more energy in warm vs freezing conditions.. shopping now for a car. CR editors rave about the new Honda Hybrid ( not the 5th gen Prius).
Where did you get this accurate information?
I get what you saying about keeping it from topping up or drained down.. point taken.
neverthless it is unwise suggesting your viewer to coast down a hill in neutral... some driver don't know better and this present a safety hazard on the road
What happens if a hybrid battery charge is minimum and you press your throttle to speed up quickly. Is the engine MG2 able to provide power directly obtained from internal combustion engine ?
There's always going to be enough charge in the hybrid battery, normally. If the hybrid battery does go bad you'll know it immediately.
Yes
holy crap that prius must have small hybrid battery.. like a hand held flashlight... just got my self a KIA optima plug hybrid and its not that big range but its 60 km (37.5miles) so it does not charge and drain that fast i see in clip.. hm... still i will try keep it centered.. i work on a ship as engineer and we charge with 3MWatt .. but we stay between 30 - 80% range on the 2 huge battery banks.
At 30% the diesel engine starts to charge and you not allowed to land charge untill battery are 30% or more again... at 10% they disconect from the main power supply. .. then its very hard to get them charged again... as they refuse to connect to the powerlinesupply main line.. so we never let this happen :)
Still this is my 2nd Hybrid.. i had a prius 2004 but only for 1 month it it annoyed the hell out of me.. i felt bad for the engine that had to start and stop all the freeking time:)... still prius feel much more expensive then they are to drive: :) their good cars.. but i prefer my 2nd and new KIA Optima 250hk aprox
Please advice I have 2011 over 200k miles on it I have notice just now whenever I put heater my battery is at 2 bars and when i turn it off it’s gets recharge pretty quick. Do I need to replace one soon or should be okay driving it. I only use for errands and not long drive
It will be okay to drive it but that definitely means it’s probably going bad! Happy New Year!
I read that heater takes up high amps so sounds natural that it's using more energy. I read wearing thicker coat will help limit battery heater usage.
I have a Toyota chr 2023. What can I do if I’m going to travel for 2-3 weeks?
Newer hybrid batteries I haven’t seen a problem with yet
Prius is fine. Do it all of the time. The eng kicks in and charges when needed. But...in neutral is a different story. It will kill the bat.
also considered dangerous driving in the UK, points on license and fine for careless driving.
you mentioned "not good for fluctuating charge cycle too much from too high of charge to too low for these Lithium Batteries". But most of the hybrid vehicle at least those pre-2015 models like Prius uses Ni-Cad batteries!