संवाद # 86: Rohit Pathania on Jammu history, from golden times of Dogra rule to 2nd class treatment
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- Опубліковано 10 лип 2024
- Rohit Pathania is an author, analyst and observer with varied interests in politics, history and environment.
0:00 Intro
1:24 Maharaja Ranjit Singh & Gulab Singh
4:50 Siege of Lahore and infighting in Sikh empire
7:50 How Gulab Singh came to rule Kashmir
9:26 Military genius of Zorawar Singh Kahluria in winning Ladakh & Gilgit-Baltistan
12:05 The iron fist rule of Ranbir Singh
14:59 Discrimination against Muslims?
19:17 Did Dogras use famines as a weapon against Kashmir?
22:14 The biggest prisoner of war camp that people don’t know
23:23 Treatment of Muslims by Pratap Singh
27:58 Azad Kashmir is actually Pakistan occupied Jammu
30:24 Nehru’s blunder in UN
32:34 The betrayal of Gilgit Baltistan
37:06 Dogri, Punjabi & cultural continuum
41:57 Jammu people become 2nd class citizens
49:05 Did Maharaja Hari Singh want to accede to India?
54:55 The turbulent times of 1990s in Jammu
1:01:10 The Dixon Plan
1:05:03 ISI plan fails, Ghulam Nabi Azad & Roshni Act
1:08:30 Discrimination against Jammu by fudging census numbers
1:11:54 Jagmohan exposes Farooq Abdullah
1:15:27 Importance of Village Defence Councils (VDCs) in J&K
1:18:42 Omar Abdullah tries to disarm VDCs & lack of unity in Jammu
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Thank you for bringing Rohit back again & fulfilling your promise of speaking about Jammu & Dogra history. Keep on doing the good work 🙏🏻
Bhai ansu aa re mere jammu ki baat sunkar pahli baar jammu not part of kashmir jai duggar jai bawe waali mata
Bhai aaj tak kisi ne ni bola about pakistan ke paas kahsmir rati bar ni poora ka poora jammu hai
the greatest ruler maharaja gulab singh ⚔️🗡
Believe me or not Rohit Pathania is one of the best historian with perfect speaking skills...hats off man🔥👍
Thanks for discussing jammu and dogra history.Dogras are only rulers who extended boundaries of present day india.Jammu has always been ignored thanks for giving voice to dogras.You should also invite manu khajuria ji
Dogra is language of cash because I have a lot of my friends who are from Jammu and they call themselves as Dogra Rajput
@@akkkkk813 jai dev slogan which rajputs still use while interacting with each other refers to dev dynasty of rajputs which ruled jammu till 1000yrs.
@@akkkkk813 believe in cobra but not dogra
@@aman4219 tu hai dhai din ka jhopra, hata le apna thopra,
भाईयो में भाई, रोहित भाई 😉 रोहित जी की चर्चाएं काफी सहज और आज को परिभाषित करने वाली होती हैं।
Thank you so much for this episode
From Jammu
Bawe waali mata ki jai
Brothers you both are doing great job by informing Hindus about there glorious past.God willing one day we will again gain what we have lost in 1947 and before to both islamic invaders and Christians colonists.
I as from Punjab had very bad Immprestion of dogras thank u for clearing that thought
Because jahalat among Sikhs is not limited to Dogra regime only but to entire Hindu Community.Khalistani bastards simply forget how Dogra regime took revenge against Muslims when Mirpur Hindu Sikh massacre happen.More than 200000 Hindus Sikhs were butcherd by Muslims in Rawalpindi,Mirpur,Tattapani etc etc POK.But it were only n only Dogras who start ethnic cleansing of Muslims in Jammu,Kathua,Aknoor etc.
Only jatt sikhs
Rohit is very knowledgeble and passionate.
Arihant try to create a series which includes each state, especially those were Hindus have been persecuted the most or states where communists/evangelical nexus is growing eg Meghalaya, Mizoram, Tamil Nadu, Jharkhand, West Bengal, Andhra/Telangana & etc
Also an overview on the Hindu history and Dharmic consciousness of each state would be enlightening.
Btw Great to see Rohit back. Truly captivating conversationalist!
Listen,I m an avid readerof history but the problem is not many books have been written on the above mentioned states, moreover the language problem ,so majority of regions have been isolated.
Manipur please, Meghalya is already on its last legs. Manipur is still our hope for Hinduism in Northeast.
It's amazing to see podcasts like this where host and guest both has so deep knowledge of their topic. and here people like us can't even remember 5 pages of some book we read.
Dogra historians should be more platforms to show their point of view bcoz jammu has always been nationalist and till now dogras of jammu serves heavily in indian army.Giving power to dogras to jammu will solve the kashmir problem.
here a listner from kishtwar , j&k
thank you rohit sir for such a briliant clearification
Definitely need an episode on uttarakhand with rohit sir.
Plz invite manu khajuria ji to discuss history and culture of jammu.History of jammu needs to be told bcoz kashmiri leadership has destroyed dogras intellectually and jammu is facing existensial crisis bcoz jammu do know their history.Jammu has always been nationalist area of bharat.
Very very well read man. There are very few people who know history of jammu like he knows.
Rohit pathania ur r genius bhai....grt
Arihant & Vaad team, please use many tags related to contents in the video. Use common TAGS & precise video title that helps YT algorithm to promote the video 🧐🙏👍👍
Dogras are born fighters . But nowadays they forget fighting skills. They should read their proud history and should keep their traditions of fighting.
Excellent analysis and in depth knowledge by Rohit Pathania ji......great 👏
One of the best,Rohit ji and arihantji pranam 🙏
Rohit Pathania: The best guest on Vaad!
Good episode.
Very precise,grave and an eye opening podcast.thanks Vaad for bringing our past and forgotten truth
Thankyou Arihant bhai🙏🙏
Kudos to Rohit and Arihant for bringing this wealth of history into light
Awesome video
Kudos to the host
Thanks a lot
Thank you Vaad For Bringing Up a Podcast for DOGRAS
this is so underrated, everyone should be exposed to these facts
Brilliant podcast!
Very good knowledge
It was Chaman Lal Gupta who was MOS Defence who started the VDCs
Kya shandar podcast hai
Superb
Thanks for sharing truth
These stories need to be heard.
Let's create a powerful informed ecosystem. Hindus have been so ignorant about their own history.
Love and respect every Hindu from Sonbhadra, UP.
My emotions with you .
Vande matram
Jay hind
Amazing history. Two requests, first please add subtitles it will capture certain key information and second, wherever possible when the guest talks about any geographic location, if possible please show it on a map. Thank you once again
Bhout kushi hui yeh sunn ka..... jammu kashmir ka bhaderwah sa hu ... Jo kabhi chamba sa jada link hua karta tha .....aur very happy to see that someone highlighted the relationship between jammu and Himachal ❤❤❤❤. .....
Love this ❤❤❤
The video serves such a great purpose to make history accessible for mainstream, otherwise stories like these will be lost to obscure books in some university libraries.
That german lady thing is more a rumour than anything else....
Eye opening
It's a good podcast , please mention the books of Mr Rohit pathania
Need this type of video on State of Bihar
Rohit pathania should be more on this channel
Arihant bro, conversation bahut informative tha, thoda achha aur Kiya ja sakta tha Kai jagah pe maps daal ke.....Baaki overall best....
time stamps ?
I invite everyone from jammu to atleast watch this once
Very good interview. Always love a history story based on facts. The latter part of political fights has thus familiarity with what us going in in the political circles of Pak don’t you get tgat feekung ?🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Plz invite and promote Ankur sharma to discuss jammu history and discrimination with jammu.Ankur sharma ji launched ikkjutt jammu party to be the voice of dogras of jammu.
Rohit and Puneet Sahni are two sources of Panthic history and pride.
Arihant .....God bless you. @50 mins....one can guage the sadness of Hari Singhs status. Why did Karan Singh join Cong.....the traitors.
Hello. Could i get coordinates of Mr Pathania? Will appreciate any help regarding that
A video on ram singh Pathania ⚔️🚩
Please Tell me if said book is available in flipkart. Tell resources of its availability
Bhari hai
28:44 he is saying the truth here even my late grandmother who just died in 2021 at the age of 97 told me how she ran from Mirpur carrying her 3 infants hide in fields for nearly 3 days in 1947 because of the barbarism done to Hindus by Muslims of that area.
Bhaderwah was also ruled by Chamba for a small period of time
Wow only good part. You should have told audience black part also how dogra come on throne who they betrayed who accompanied them in their conspiracies and who is responsible for whole blood shed in J&k. Only nice things bravo dogra rajputs nd kashmiri pandits
Love to all Jammuwalas from Odisha
Jamwal* surname haii mainly from Jammu
Sir please tell me about these books....and which book should i read..... please it's my humble request to you... Share a booklist with me
From jammu , and jobs distribution was also 80:20 ratio before 2019 , and no political leader even protests about that..
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रोहित पठानिया , का विश्लेषण साधारण, तथ्य भ्रमित करने वाला है, विरोधाभास भी है
जम्मू के बुद्धिजीवी अब जाग रहे है। यह देखकर कर प्रसन्नता हुई ।
वर्तमान मे जम्मू क्षेत्र नायक विहीन है। राजवंश ने बहुत निराश किया है ।
Islamic appeasement is the worst thing our govt & leaders do.
Instead of empowering Hindus they appease islamists who are against non-muslims & Bharat.
Bhaiyon discussion was good but please have some mercy on lay man.
If you can go a bit slow and also show maps on the screen while having discussion, it will be useful.
We need more information on j k i wish best of luck to jumu region
🙏🙏🙏
Make a podcast on haryana
PojkGB part of India 🇮🇳✅ state of maharaja harisingh ❤
Bro pls hve discussion about massacred hppnd in chenab valley
Ohhhh kha se ayea hai je 😂
Gulab singh paid 15000 nanak shahi to Sandhawalia Murdered Sikh Maharaja Sher Singh raja dhian Singh(Gulab Singh's Brother) Suchet Singh (Gulab Singh's Brother ) and hira Singh ( Gulab Singh's nephew) Gulab Singh had taken most of the lahore treasury to jammu.
Do you think Britishers could allow him to do this ?
Don't fall for rumours atleast think logically. Your hatred for Dogras made you blind. Good and bad people are everywhere. We have to be United against invaders. And don't fight among ourselves.
@@dushantanthal2695Dogras fought for and helped in the construction of Sikh Empire. Now these idiots hate Dogras
@@Yuvrai96 They can't even rule for more than 50 years in the entire history of mankind. Even during their rule Dogras were the main force supporting them otherwise they couldn't have survived that long.
These people are jealous of Dogra might that's why they hate Dogras.
ओ डोगरेयो, वाज़ चुक्को ते अपने हके आस्तै लड़ो, नेईं ते इनें कश्मीरिएं मुस्लमानें तुसेंगी खाई ओड़ना। Please raise a voice for Separate Jammu🚩🚩
Dogras, Hindus have a long way to go. Ankur Sharma ji is very educated and deserving person but it's better to stay united.
रोहित भाई को सुनना हमेशा सुकून भरा होता है जो मुख्य विषय ही नही बल्कि उसके आस पास की छोटी-2 बातों को भी कवर करते है।
जय सनातन हिन्दू धर्म। 👌💐😊
I am from POJK...HUMKO YE SAB STORIES APNY GRANDFATHERS AND GRANDMOTHERS ny btain thii k mirpir kotli me hindu ka genocide hiwa thaaa pathano ny bht ghult huwa thaa
Bhai aaj tak kisi ne ni bola about pakistan ke paas kahsmir rati bar ni poora ka poora jammu kabja hai thank you sir thank you so much
Can I get contact details of Mr Rohit
Ram.chand dubey remained Governer of J&,,k.for 3 4 decades L M Khajuria remained Director of sericulture there were many dogra officers
Getting recommendation 1day later?!
Dear Rohit, Whatever you are doing is very good, BUT YOU NEED TO KNOW MORE, I MAY CONTRIBUTE LITTLE TO YOU
You both look like twins 😊
Dogra is powerful soilder
It is absolutely correct that it is Pakistan Occupied Jammu (PoJ).
Movies shud be made on these events, so that ppl know the truth.
Sheikh Abdullah was in deep connection with communists, Russia & Pakistan supported by western powers to declare J&K as Independent Sultanate in 1953, when he was arrested & imprisoned on instruction from Nehru who had been his stauntch supporter from 1945-till 1953.
Chamba has also chaugaan
Pahadiyon ki problam ek jgha stand nahi hote agreed 👍
I think professional historian like vikram sampat sir should do academic research on tussle between sheikh abdullah and maharaja hari singh ji.Sheikh abdullah launched jihad against maharaja hari singh ji with the help of ahmed shah maulvi who gave speech in jama masjid which resulted in lynching hindus in 1932 and migration of pandits into jammu as a result Muslim conference now National conference came into existence.Now today that jihad is called same as moplah which is now called as not jihad but a rebellion of unemployed youth of kashmir
Bura na maniyega aazad kashmir k barey main aur Amritsar treaty k barey main aapki jaankari kam hai 🙏
Bhai Puneet Sahani ko invite karo.
We all know how gulab singh acquired Jammu from sikhs
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Bhadrwah was part of Chamba given as dowry to Jammu to royals. HP four monarchy to merge and make an independent like Nepal
1:11:38 Areyyyyyyyyyyy Bhai Jammu Card bol Rahe h vo jese Victim card... Patta 😒
Kangra ki history peh ek episode
Actually hatred against the Kings of Princely states, made Jawahar Lal Nehru, betrayed the terms made with them, in name of Constitution.
I don't know how despite having martial race of dogra's gudwalis gujjars in jammu. It is made second class citizen of kashmiri bakris
Because jammu's politicians have mostly become slave of Kashmir valley
Jammu City is refugee capital now
Dogri Culture is only left in villages and small towns and jammu's society has undergone decline overtime with no support from Delhi
Gujjar shudra 😂
Why dogras didn't settle in kashmir valley
Bro are you a Himachali?
Yes he is