I always figured enemies would just stare you down because you haven't gotten close enough to piss them off. There are games that do that, so it's not them not seeing you, just not caring until you get close enough for them to want you to fuck off.
Fun fact.."stealth" be in from games before ED - for example Dark Souls 3 have "stealth" aka enemy can hear a sound to check "what the wind is going hear" etc...but without "high grass and crouch"(walk = "crouch"),
I'm 45 years old I've been gaming since I was old enough to hold anything I broke my neck and I paralyzed I can't move my fingers but I can still move my wrist and arms and I was like there's no way in hell I'm going to be able to play this but with the Xbox adaptive controller and a huge array of Logitech switches I actually beat this game paralyzed it took me 550 hours of pure pleasure best game ever By the way PlayStation just announced their new adaptive controller check it out
I feel as though people tried stealth more extensively when the game first dropped. In the first two weeks, 90% of the white phantoms I encountered, were navigating the long grass of the lands between whilst crouched. It was the new meta taking over sheild turtling. It was a sight to see.
This was my first Fromsoft game and I picked Bandit as my base class with my first character lol, even though I wanted to fight but the starting weapon has really bad range so I spent several levels backstabbing that first group of Godrick soldiers until I had enough Dex for the Flail lmao
The beginning made me want to quit. The only way I could grind enough souls to want to keep playing was stealth killing that group of guards around the ruins over and over again
@@nickthompson1812 I picked Wretch (First Fromsoft Game) and honestly I think getting a decent shield and guard countering was the best bet there. Granted it wasn't as fast as backstabbing but it got me to pick up the combat after two hours and I had a lot of fun.
It's still the best opening tactic as an invader I think. Basically just stay out of sight until you're confident you know how many phantoms you're dealing with, then launch your most damaging attack from ambush and pray it kills someone before the inevitable 3 vs 1 fight begins lol.
I like that stealth is just tool that you can use in some scenarios rly effectivly but its not so usefull that you can destroy the whole point of the game. For me its fairly balanced and usefull enough especialy for new players (those might want to avoid some encounters)
I started with a Wretch and stealth allowed me to farm the Godrick soldier and Knight sets (never got the gauntlets) from the Gatefront Ruins. Not the best armor, but it helps a lot currently. I can't wait to get new armor, but the set has served me so far through a lot of bosses, including Godrick himself. I love stealth and the fact that ER lets me do it while wearing heavy armor is just the best. It's like my Ebony Mail Assassin Dragonborn in Skyrim all over again!
Godwyn: Literal demigod can't notice black knife assassin's under mimics veil Random Stormveil guard: "You think such cheap trick will work on me tarnished?
If you’ve played Sekiro, the stealth in ER is easy to understand as it mostly feels the same. You just don’t have visual indicators like the yellow attention markers vs red aggro markers. This is also true for the poise break, which feels near identical to Sekiro’s posture, but like stealth it’s hidden from you in ER.
I always enjoy playing a typical "rogue" character, so stealth in this game was really fun to mess around with. Concealing Veil makes your crouch button feel like you're hitting an MMO style Stealth ability, and it's great.
The mimics veil is so funny and lets you get away with actually cartoonish shit. I was sneaking through the cave under the academy disguised as a lantern, then this one guy saw me, walked over, sat there like “that wasnt there before,” then went back to his business. I then proceeded to the group of three huddled together and one stopped and faced me like “did that just move?!” Then went back to chatting with his buddies. I inched closer a tad and he turned, then went back to idle. It was legit a fuckin looney tunes bit. Later i was in the academy at the hallway with the lazuli sword guy and the two sorcerers reading, a made too much noise and they started coming for me, i lured the sword guy into the grace classroom and killed him, then was disguised as a big wacky globe thing, a minute later the sorcerers walked in, pushed past me to look at their dead buddy, then while pushing through to get back to their books, one fuckin headbutts the table right next to me so he can get through. So fuckin funny
I remember specifically there was some human type hostile NPC in Raya lucaria, I think, and I figured out I could aggro him, hide behind the door arch and mimic into a statue, then get a free backstab. Otherwise he just kept murking me. I totally forgot about stealth for most of the game though
Has anyone killed that guy without cheesing? I've only ever abused his pathfinding with ranged attacks or (accidentally) dropped him down the lift shaft XD
@@alexisauld7781 He's the one who taught me parry timings on my first playthrough. "Parry me, will you? Then I'll parry you!" Then I stole his clothes from the graveyard and rocked his fashion.
@@alexisauld7781 on my first playthrough he was hell, but I eventually found that he wouldn't parry my roll attacks with Katana. I'm up to ng+5, blasphemous blade art of war does the job just fine :)
I used the ring that makes your actions silent (you switch it in boss fights... for obvious reasons) quite a lot in my runs. It helps a melee build (even ranged, in tight spaces)quite a lot and quite often. You can get up close and safely land a first BIG hit on one or more (if in groups) enemies at a time, making trivial quite a lot of open world encounters.
Leviathan watches a lot of not hit runners Hmm. Excellent video btw, you presented all the information in a really creative way and animations were cool.
The stealth mechanic of this game is what got me to really respect the design. it’s way more advanced than it needed to be and since there’s no handholding you learn to basically incorporate it to the level you enjoy and that fits your build and play style. It might sounds crazy but I wish there was more game to explore with this because even though this game is huge, it still feels very contained, that might be due the fact that if you can see a place, no matter how far away, you can travel to it.
it's still fairly primitive in my opinion, like "shoot an arrow at a wall, enemy hears it, investigates, doesn't notice the arrow stuck in the wall" kind of dumb.
I loved the darkness spell even if I didn't use it much overall. Really helped me with one or two of those beetles that teleport away as soon as they detect you. And it's hilarious making enemies lose all detection mid fight.
Thank you for this video. I enjoy stealth in this game and I want to use it even more in the DLC, so these tips helped a lot. I feel like stealth is a natural fit in a game where the enemies are made to be difficult and you're supposed to be afraid.
Thank you for putting this together. I soloed the first 3 Eldtree Avatars at lv 35 and under using stealth. I always cleared any patrols in the area, then agroed the boss and ran until agro was lost and it reset. I then snuck up behind it and cast Poison Mist. Works like a charm.
I have always been a cautious player, so my first playthrough involved a lot, and I really mean a lot of sneaking around, isolating enemies and backstabbing them afterwards, and honestly, it was fun
I remember getting just close enough to alert but not agro a guard at the entrance to a camp, so I just calmly crouched away and he literally watched me sneak through the back door
Great video, editing and knowledge! Only suggestion for the video I’d have is that it seemed to end quite suddenly, maybe have a wrap up or even outro or something? But just a suggestion
on not-quite-this subject, a couple things I remember - firstly, aggroing the runebear scratching stuff near fort haight, if you walk around him, he usually doesn't care, but if you aggro the demihumans first and they scream at you, he very much cares and tries to murder you (unsure if it's just having things aggrod to you or the demihumans make them either more aware or more cranky). Also, the horn of the alert guard seems to send the guards to your location when he sounds it, rather than his location when he sounds it. just two little things which bug me and I don't really have the time or will to figure out.
You can cheese the Fully Grown Fallen Star Beast by landing on the right edge of the mountain from the spiritspring, sneaking behind, and using poison mist. The incantation doesn't make sound and using your flask to restore FP makes no sound either.
Honestly, the fact you can make quite a portion of the playthrough is neat to me that I don't always have to play directly harder with the enemy. It works pretty similarly in DS3, but besides options being stronger in ER, you have to be going after Lothric in DS3 for the full benefits.
I don't get the confusion some people have about stealth in Elden Ring. I just run around in medium armour and walk when I want to be a little stealthy, crouch when I wanna be extra sneaky and use the mimicry crown thingy when I panic. Technically stealth has been a thing since Demon Souls, just never this blatant or effective and usually only used to get some cheeky backstabs in. Maybe that's why the idea of stealth isn't mind-blowing to me? Elden Ring's stealth is blatantly exploitable and I love it. But there's a reason a choose to run in and swing my weapon rather than stealth around everywhere... it's time consuming and at least for me, less fun. In the end stealth is relegated to a 'when it seems appropriate' tool for me to use and I suspect for anyone else who hasn't gotten it into their head that they should just run at the enemy and eat the L if they can't beat something first try. Also it annoys me how under rated the darkness spell is... because it's overpowered and broken and nothing anyone says can ever prove to me otherwise. It works on players for a good quarter second guys, wtf?
Awesome video! Minor correction at 5:02 though, you can actually get Assassin's Gambit if you give Bernahl's ball bearing to the Twin Maidens before you reach Volcano manner and then complete the first part of Rya's quest where she teleports you to Volcano Manor. I tested this on the most recent patch (1.08.1). The ball bearing page gets updated once you reach the Manor.
I did my entire NG+ play through as an assassin (black knife set, bow, throwing knives, Miséricorde with assassins gambit). Only changing gear when stuck on some bosses. After 200+ hours for my first play through as a int/dex build (and all the other Souls games in a similar way) it was so fun to take on a Fromsoft game like that. Would highly recommend.
I've used stealth since the beginning of my playthrough and still use it constantly. I'm always crouched goin into new areas lol. I think it works very well there are tailismens to help armor that aid an buff stealth and a mimic item to sneak around as something that blends in like a candle stick lol
Wow, my friends were impressed when I showed them sneak+throw objects to pass by big groups of dudes, but that's the extent of my sneakiness. I didn't realize darkness was so busted among a bunch of other stuff you showed. Especially bosses, wow
Using stealth felt very natural to me having played Sekiro. It's a little disappointing playing the Souls games now since they don't really have stealth and no jump attacks.
nice video, barely used stealth in ER at all precisely because of how convoluted it felt, this was pretty insightful. If I may add my two cents about the video itself: I enjoyed the pace greatly, plenty of info in a short timespan. That said, despite overall pretty good design on the visuals to keep it short and informative, there were a few places where the information was passing by too quickly, like the part at 1:50, where it cuts itself off before the info is barely finished showing up. It's mostly nitpicky and the video probably took a lot of work, but presuming you'd like to know what and where it could be improved, I'd say that's about the only thing besides me being able to hear your mouse clicking by the end there haha
Back when I used to invade in Dark Souls, I would use the Fog Ring to great effect. For example, invading Blight Town and standing against the inner wall of the cave leading to Quelaag. Because the walls were a lightish orange sort of color, and you're a transparent red, it was really hard to see you without looking closely. This allowed for some solid BSing against the hosts phantoms! Chameleon although much more obvious in this area, also came in very handy as it lowered your profile and changed your appearance. Stealth has been implemented differently throughout the years, but it's always been there! Just another reason why these games are so very unique. As they allow the option of all different kinds of warfare. People often expect a duelist, and that's usually what leads to their demise as the "perfect situation" is about to be inacted upon them.
Stealth kills are an excellent way to control the efficiency of rune farming. I like going to the haligtree. The bonfire before the tree spirit is a good reliable spot
It's things like this which make Elden Ring so so so good. Invisible features that just enrich the gameplay experience, where western games want to yell every feature in your face so that you know for a fact it is a GAME and that you can never be immersed
I really don't get why so few people use stealth, it's a situational but highly useful tool. I disagree that it's unreliable, you just need to take it slow and methodical and know which enemies/encounters are susceptible to it
i guess one idea on why is out of feeling of if the enemy could potentially notice you after that one hit, or if you didn't manage to take them out, that they kinda feel a bit "well then why did i almost waste my time trying that?" Take this with a grain of salt however, coming from someone who doesn't usually run things stealthily in games, and who's mind ends up most associating stealth with the memetic strength of stealth archer build in Skyrim and how so many love to play it like that
There is an armor set of a black knives Assassin in the game . Which is available in the town near the entrance to Haligtree. I think it makes you nearly undetected unless you attack or make some noisy movements. It really supports stealth but the problem is that it's only available near late.
Stealth is vital in castle morne, if you die you end up back at the beginning and I'd Kms if I couldn't pick a couple misbegotten off and sneak down the back of the body pile
THANK YOU. I was trying to figure out if the veil actually worked against NPCs but the internet was being really unhelpful. Good to know about the bosses too. I had assumed triggers automatically aggro. Also I just realized I'm very dumb. I've been using my seal to cast darkness in my main hand (which I use misericorde in) and wasting tons of time switching between the two and getting killed for it. Thanks for making me realized this. Now to just undo all the muscle memory and move my bows... Here's hoping.
Crepus's Vial alone makes a pretty big difference throughout most of the game I found. Does nothing for visibility obviously, but it means you can just run around full speed and many enemies (particularly ones "sleeping" in ambush positions) will be none the wiser as you kill their buddies. Works a treat for scouting during invasions too, well worth a talisman slot imo.
Elden Ring has a lot of enemies that attack on script, completely ignoring muffled footsteps and even invisibility. You could run through almost anything with invisible body and rapport in DS3.
I kinda hope that the DLC brings an update to overhaul stealth a bit more. Lighter armors have basically NO reason to exist outside of looks, so having a noise reduction would make them quite useful. Maybe rework the silent-step Talisman so that it reduces your armor's noise level by a set percentage while also increasing critical hit damage for better backstabs. Stealth is so robust in this game and it feels like every single enemy spawn location was designed so that stealth can be used.
Not gonna lie, I spent an embarrassing amount of the early game basically being a Skyrim-style Stealth Archer. Hit soldier from behind with arrow, let them run towards you and away from the group, defeat in melee. Repeat until no more group. I started my first playthrough as the wretch. I made do with what I could find.
Is to mark your way in dungeons, leaving behind you debris. Thus permit you to not get lost. Am I right ? (I've spent dozens of hours before figuring out this lol)
Great bows are also very loud. Great way to get a ancient somber stone from Mohg's palace. You can use it to shoot the wall near the mob of enemies that are standing guarding the chest and they'll just go over and investigate while you walk over quietly and get the stone. 10/10 wish I had learned that before my fifth playthrough.
So I've been attempting a bow only run. And it turns out that shooting bows (not crossbows) is COMPLETELY silent. As long as you are outside a mob's minimum aggro range. Sometimes you can hit them 4-5 times before they figure out where you are. This is very easy to see on the wandering dragons where after shooting them, they will often attempt to bite the air.
You forgot the shatter arrow. They seem useless since they barely do any damage to any vulnerability, BUT it is freakin loud. If you go for stealth and need a distraction, use those. They are dirt cheap to craft too.
Assassin's Gambit helped quite a lot when doing the puzzle to get to the Haligtree. The Black Knife Assassins and Albinauric Archers can be quite annoying otherwise
I love the idea of playing elden ring like an assassin If I enter direct combat I usually like to try and cast darkness then quickstep around for a backstab or if that doesn’t work I use raptor of the mists or parry dagger to fight with style I suck at it but it makes me feel super cool when it works
Stealth games are one of my favourite genres, so I didn’t really learn anything here. Was entertaining nonetheless. I like how your character looks like Venom Snake
Strong start into a new year, hope you guys like this video as much ss I do
I like it. Covering things not a lot of people cover is never a bad thing and also you're entertaining so thanks for the video!
You should try covering how the game spawns enemies with gold eyes and which NPCs can have them.
Super informative and fun video! I'll make good use of this knowledge c:
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@1:37 "I can't see shit" clip sounded like DSP.
Look at that... somebody really put all their stats into video editing. Great job man
thank you!
That’s what I’m sayin
Are you jealous Lost? XD
or are you telling him to git gud?
I always forget to level that.
I always figured enemies would just stare you down because you haven't gotten close enough to piss them off. There are games that do that, so it's not them not seeing you, just not caring until you get close enough for them to want you to fuck off.
i'm pretty sure everyone want to kill you in this game
Stealth, when used correctly, feels very rewarding for me. Idk why but I just loves sneaking up to a high level enemy and backstabbing them
So many leyndell knights got stabbed or back smashed across my playthroughs 😂
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Fun fact.."stealth" be in from games before ED - for example Dark Souls 3 have "stealth" aka enemy can hear a sound to check "what the wind is going hear" etc...but without "high grass and crouch"(walk = "crouch"),
@@andreyshvedchenko5463 even ds1, ring of fog with slumbering dragoncrest and things have a really hard time spotting you
Stealth feels like shit in Elden ring after coming off of Sekiro.
I'm 45 years old I've been gaming since I was old enough to hold anything I broke my neck and I paralyzed I can't move my fingers but I can still move my wrist and arms and I was like there's no way in hell I'm going to be able to play this but with the Xbox adaptive controller and a huge array of Logitech switches I actually beat this game paralyzed it took me 550 hours of pure pleasure best game ever
By the way PlayStation just announced their new adaptive controller check it out
Props to you, amazing you were able to beat a game as difficult as this without fine motor skills
That's really awesome DOom
I'm sending a screenshot of this to anyone that complains these games are too hard
This does put a smile in my face
Imagine
Game journalists are so shit a crippled 45 year old man can outdo them in elden ring
Based
I feel as though people tried stealth more extensively when the game first dropped.
In the first two weeks, 90% of the white phantoms I encountered, were navigating the long grass of the lands between whilst crouched.
It was the new meta taking over sheild turtling. It was a sight to see.
This was my first Fromsoft game and I picked Bandit as my base class with my first character lol, even though I wanted to fight but the starting weapon has really bad range so I spent several levels backstabbing that first group of Godrick soldiers until I had enough Dex for the Flail lmao
The beginning made me want to quit. The only way I could grind enough souls to want to keep playing was stealth killing that group of guards around the ruins over and over again
@@nickthompson1812 I picked Wretch (First Fromsoft Game) and honestly I think getting a decent shield and guard countering was the best bet there. Granted it wasn't as fast as backstabbing but it got me to pick up the combat after two hours and I had a lot of fun.
It's still the best opening tactic as an invader I think. Basically just stay out of sight until you're confident you know how many phantoms you're dealing with, then launch your most damaging attack from ambush and pray it kills someone before the inevitable 3 vs 1 fight begins lol.
Just to add a small bit of info here, if you're using the *altered* Black Knife chest piece, it removes the effect of making no noise when you move.
I like that stealth is just tool that you can use in some scenarios rly effectivly but its not so usefull that you can destroy the whole point of the game. For me its fairly balanced and usefull enough especialy for new players (those might want to avoid some encounters)
stealth archer casually breaking the game (not elden ring) (if you know you know)
@@robinsimon4176 those were the days, that game felt so impressive at the time
@@robinsimon4176 what game? skyrim?
there's a type of arrow you can make, it makes a louder sound, it's called the shatter shard arrow
I started with a Wretch and stealth allowed me to farm the Godrick soldier and Knight sets (never got the gauntlets) from the Gatefront Ruins. Not the best armor, but it helps a lot currently. I can't wait to get new armor, but the set has served me so far through a lot of bosses, including Godrick himself. I love stealth and the fact that ER lets me do it while wearing heavy armor is just the best. It's like my Ebony Mail Assassin Dragonborn in Skyrim all over again!
I used to sneak around and tear through forts with a warhammer, skyrim stealth is super fun
Godwyn: Literal demigod can't notice black knife assassin's under mimics veil
Random Stormveil guard: "You think such cheap trick will work on me tarnished?
If you’ve played Sekiro, the stealth in ER is easy to understand as it mostly feels the same. You just don’t have visual indicators like the yellow attention markers vs red aggro markers. This is also true for the poise break, which feels near identical to Sekiro’s posture, but like stealth it’s hidden from you in ER.
I adore stealth games, the addition of it to Elden Ring, even in a limited capacity is fantastic.
I always enjoy playing a typical "rogue" character, so stealth in this game was really fun to mess around with. Concealing Veil makes your crouch button feel like you're hitting an MMO style Stealth ability, and it's great.
Black knife armor got the through the endgame
The mimics veil is so funny and lets you get away with actually cartoonish shit. I was sneaking through the cave under the academy disguised as a lantern, then this one guy saw me, walked over, sat there like “that wasnt there before,” then went back to his business. I then proceeded to the group of three huddled together and one stopped and faced me like “did that just move?!” Then went back to chatting with his buddies. I inched closer a tad and he turned, then went back to idle. It was legit a fuckin looney tunes bit.
Later i was in the academy at the hallway with the lazuli sword guy and the two sorcerers reading, a made too much noise and they started coming for me, i lured the sword guy into the grace classroom and killed him, then was disguised as a big wacky globe thing, a minute later the sorcerers walked in, pushed past me to look at their dead buddy, then while pushing through to get back to their books, one fuckin headbutts the table right next to me so he can get through. So fuckin funny
I remember specifically there was some human type hostile NPC in Raya lucaria, I think, and I figured out I could aggro him, hide behind the door arch and mimic into a statue, then get a free backstab. Otherwise he just kept murking me. I totally forgot about stealth for most of the game though
Has anyone killed that guy without cheesing? I've only ever abused his pathfinding with ranged attacks or (accidentally) dropped him down the lift shaft XD
@alexisauld7781 yea I did, but it was pretty tough since he kept parrying me every now and then and 1 shotting me 💀
@@alexisauld7781 He's the one who taught me parry timings on my first playthrough. "Parry me, will you? Then I'll parry you!" Then I stole his clothes from the graveyard and rocked his fashion.
@@alexisauld7781 on my first playthrough he was hell, but I eventually found that he wouldn't parry my roll attacks with Katana. I'm up to ng+5, blasphemous blade art of war does the job just fine :)
@@septia101 what is ng+5?
I used the ring that makes your actions silent (you switch it in boss fights... for obvious reasons) quite a lot in my runs. It helps a melee build (even ranged, in tight spaces)quite a lot and quite often.
You can get up close and safely land a first BIG hit on one or more (if in groups) enemies at a time, making trivial quite a lot of open world encounters.
Leviathan watches a lot of not hit runners Hmm. Excellent video btw, you presented all the information in a really creative way and animations were cool.
Definitely, that bubble and abusing assassin gambit is def a hint he is watching no hit runs
The stealth mechanic of this game is what got me to really respect the design. it’s way more advanced than it needed to be and since there’s no handholding you learn to basically incorporate it to the level you enjoy and that fits your build and play style. It might sounds crazy but I wish there was more game to explore with this because even though this game is huge, it still feels very contained, that might be due the fact that if you can see a place, no matter how far away, you can travel to it.
it's still fairly primitive in my opinion, like "shoot an arrow at a wall, enemy hears it, investigates, doesn't notice the arrow stuck in the wall" kind of dumb.
Once again some quality Souls explanations from -Illusory Wall- *Leviathan!*
I loved the darkness spell even if I didn't use it much overall.
Really helped me with one or two of those beetles that teleport away as soon as they detect you.
And it's hilarious making enemies lose all detection mid fight.
Brilliant video. The visual diagrams made each concept much easier to understand. Good work!
The editing is top notch! Great job man, 100k coming soon is well deserved!
Thank you I appreciate it!
i think your character looking like solid snake..is deliberate...
Actual s-tier content. Instant sub. Hope you get 100k soon
glad my work paid off, thank you
Thank you for this video. I enjoy stealth in this game and I want to use it even more in the DLC, so these tips helped a lot.
I feel like stealth is a natural fit in a game where the enemies are made to be difficult and you're supposed to be afraid.
Thank you for putting this together. I soloed the first 3 Eldtree Avatars at lv 35 and under using stealth. I always cleared any patrols in the area, then agroed the boss and ran until agro was lost and it reset. I then snuck up behind it and cast Poison Mist. Works like a charm.
2,000 hours into elden ring and I'm still learning. Excellent video, very informative.
the editing in this video is just absurdly good holy fuck
I have always been a cautious player, so my first playthrough involved a lot, and I really mean a lot of sneaking around, isolating enemies and backstabbing them afterwards, and honestly, it was fun
I love how the metal gear solid alert sound is used in almost every youtube video to this day
I love all the mechanics in this game. There are so many that I forget about and rediscover all the time.
Another cheap noise maker are the crystal arrows. I tend to use em to if there are enemies in a room but using it for stealth isn't a bad idea either.
I remember getting just close enough to alert but not agro a guard at the entrance to a camp, so I just calmly crouched away and he literally watched me sneak through the back door
Great video, editing and knowledge!
Only suggestion for the video I’d have is that it seemed to end quite suddenly, maybe have a wrap up or even outro or something? But just a suggestion
wait, I have been dying in Elden Ring without knowing who the stealth system works. Thanks for the help bro!
will the Skyrim memes never end
on not-quite-this subject, a couple things I remember - firstly, aggroing the runebear scratching stuff near fort haight, if you walk around him, he usually doesn't care, but if you aggro the demihumans first and they scream at you, he very much cares and tries to murder you (unsure if it's just having things aggrod to you or the demihumans make them either more aware or more cranky). Also, the horn of the alert guard seems to send the guards to your location when he sounds it, rather than his location when he sounds it.
just two little things which bug me and I don't really have the time or will to figure out.
0:18 "We know you are here but we appreciate your efforts so we won't attack you. Yet."
It's pretty great that this is an Elden Ring video but you're using a Zelda song. I love it.
This was a really well made video, like one of the top comments - Phenomenal Editing!
thank you I appreciate it a lot
I can’t even begin to imagine how much potential this has that nobody’s bothered to use yet.
Loving the eyepatch for a Metal Gear Solid style sneaking video
You can cheese the Fully Grown Fallen Star Beast by landing on the right edge of the mountain from the spiritspring, sneaking behind, and using poison mist. The incantation doesn't make sound and using your flask to restore FP makes no sound either.
Honestly, the fact you can make quite a portion of the playthrough is neat to me that I don't always have to play directly harder with the enemy. It works pretty similarly in DS3, but besides options being stronger in ER, you have to be going after Lothric in DS3 for the full benefits.
Damn i thought this was a huge memerino channel with a mil plus subs. Excellent editing, comedy, and actual game info. Subbed 😁
damn you did your homework
How did I not notice the giant dragon head in the godskin duo fight until now?
I don't get the confusion some people have about stealth in Elden Ring. I just run around in medium armour and walk when I want to be a little stealthy, crouch when I wanna be extra sneaky and use the mimicry crown thingy when I panic. Technically stealth has been a thing since Demon Souls, just never this blatant or effective and usually only used to get some cheeky backstabs in. Maybe that's why the idea of stealth isn't mind-blowing to me? Elden Ring's stealth is blatantly exploitable and I love it. But there's a reason a choose to run in and swing my weapon rather than stealth around everywhere... it's time consuming and at least for me, less fun. In the end stealth is relegated to a 'when it seems appropriate' tool for me to use and I suspect for anyone else who hasn't gotten it into their head that they should just run at the enemy and eat the L if they can't beat something first try. Also it annoys me how under rated the darkness spell is... because it's overpowered and broken and nothing anyone says can ever prove to me otherwise. It works on players for a good quarter second guys, wtf?
Thank you! I was waiting for this before I played.
Saw only this vid and subscribed. AAA quality editing and information.
Awesome video! Minor correction at 5:02 though, you can actually get Assassin's Gambit if you give Bernahl's ball bearing to the Twin Maidens before you reach Volcano manner and then complete the first part of Rya's quest where she teleports you to Volcano Manor. I tested this on the most recent patch (1.08.1). The ball bearing page gets updated once you reach the Manor.
Phenomenal editing - excellent work.
After using Black Knife Armor a good chunk of time for it's looks in my initial playthrough, even just it's effect makes a noticeable difference.
I did my entire NG+ play through as an assassin (black knife set, bow, throwing knives, Miséricorde with assassins gambit). Only changing gear when stuck on some bosses.
After 200+ hours for my first play through as a int/dex build (and all the other Souls games in a similar way) it was so fun to take on a Fromsoft game like that. Would highly recommend.
I've used stealth since the beginning of my playthrough and still use it constantly. I'm always crouched goin into new areas lol. I think it works very well there are tailismens to help armor that aid an buff stealth and a mimic item to sneak around as something that blends in like a candle stick lol
This clearly took a lot of research good job dude
I wish we had some cool Tenchu Z chain stealth kills or something. That was the coolest feature in any game I ever saw imo.
This video was fire bro. Worth the subscribe!
Nice vid my dude. Keep up the good quality content.
Thank you, that is the plan!
Wow, my friends were impressed when I showed them sneak+throw objects to pass by big groups of dudes, but that's the extent of my sneakiness. I didn't realize darkness was so busted among a bunch of other stuff you showed. Especially bosses, wow
You juste gave me the motivation to try to beat the game by stealth playing
This might be my favorite elden ring video
for real? damn boy
Using stealth felt very natural to me having played Sekiro. It's a little disappointing playing the Souls games now since they don't really have stealth and no jump attacks.
nice video, barely used stealth in ER at all precisely because of how convoluted it felt, this was pretty insightful.
If I may add my two cents about the video itself: I enjoyed the pace greatly, plenty of info in a short timespan. That said, despite overall pretty good design on the visuals to keep it short and informative, there were a few places where the information was passing by too quickly, like the part at 1:50, where it cuts itself off before the info is barely finished showing up. It's mostly nitpicky and the video probably took a lot of work, but presuming you'd like to know what and where it could be improved, I'd say that's about the only thing besides me being able to hear your mouse clicking by the end there haha
That looked like some work man, good stuff.
Back when I used to invade in Dark Souls, I would use the Fog Ring to great effect. For example, invading Blight Town and standing against the inner wall of the cave leading to Quelaag. Because the walls were a lightish orange sort of color, and you're a transparent red, it was really hard to see you without looking closely. This allowed for some solid BSing against the hosts phantoms! Chameleon although much more obvious in this area, also came in very handy as it lowered your profile and changed your appearance. Stealth has been implemented differently throughout the years, but it's always been there!
Just another reason why these games are so very unique. As they allow the option of all different kinds of warfare. People often expect a duelist, and that's usually what leads to their demise as the "perfect situation" is about to be inacted upon them.
Video editing on point. Entertaining watch. Thank you.
Stealth kills are an excellent way to control the efficiency of rune farming. I like going to the haligtree. The bonfire before the tree spirit is a good reliable spot
The flaw with stealth is the same as in most games: why would you use it when fighting is only slightly harder, but much faster and way more fun?
Glad to sub before 100k. Won’t be long til 500.
Oh dont wrorry, i sure as hell didnt forget about stealth
Great job mate 💣
It's things like this which make Elden Ring so so so good. Invisible features that just enrich the gameplay experience, where western games want to yell every feature in your face so that you know for a fact it is a GAME and that you can never be immersed
I really don't get why so few people use stealth, it's a situational but highly useful tool. I disagree that it's unreliable, you just need to take it slow and methodical and know which enemies/encounters are susceptible to it
i guess one idea on why is out of feeling of if the enemy could potentially notice you after that one hit, or if you didn't manage to take them out, that they kinda feel a bit "well then why did i almost waste my time trying that?"
Take this with a grain of salt however, coming from someone who doesn't usually run things stealthily in games, and who's mind ends up most associating stealth with the memetic strength of stealth archer build in Skyrim and how so many love to play it like that
There is an armor set of a black knives Assassin in the game . Which is available in the town near the entrance to Haligtree. I think it makes you nearly undetected unless you attack or make some noisy movements. It really supports stealth but the problem is that it's only available near late.
This is awesome! What a cool detailed video!
I highly recommend people try a stealth build. So much fun and a very different way of playing.
Really like yr editing & commentary man keep it up!
Stealth is vital in castle morne, if you die you end up back at the beginning and I'd Kms if I couldn't pick a couple misbegotten off and sneak down the back of the body pile
The bois and I always mimic veil to play hide and seek with invaders. It is hilarious when they walk right by is and have no idea.
THANK YOU. I was trying to figure out if the veil actually worked against NPCs but the internet was being really unhelpful.
Good to know about the bosses too. I had assumed triggers automatically aggro.
Also I just realized I'm very dumb. I've been using my seal to cast darkness in my main hand (which I use misericorde in) and wasting tons of time switching between the two and getting killed for it. Thanks for making me realized this. Now to just undo all the muscle memory and move my bows... Here's hoping.
Crepus's Vial alone makes a pretty big difference throughout most of the game I found. Does nothing for visibility obviously, but it means you can just run around full speed and many enemies (particularly ones "sleeping" in ambush positions) will be none the wiser as you kill their buddies. Works a treat for scouting during invasions too, well worth a talisman slot imo.
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The casual “help me hit 100k” making me sub
Elden Ring has a lot of enemies that attack on script, completely ignoring muffled footsteps and even invisibility. You could run through almost anything with invisible body and rapport in DS3.
I kinda hope that the DLC brings an update to overhaul stealth a bit more. Lighter armors have basically NO reason to exist outside of looks, so having a noise reduction would make them quite useful. Maybe rework the silent-step Talisman so that it reduces your armor's noise level by a set percentage while also increasing critical hit damage for better backstabs. Stealth is so robust in this game and it feels like every single enemy spawn location was designed so that stealth can be used.
Coming from Sekiro Stealth came very second nature to me and felt like a welcome organic addition to the souls formula,
but thats just me
4:09 I cackled like a madman.
Not gonna lie, I spent an embarrassing amount of the early game basically being a Skyrim-style Stealth Archer.
Hit soldier from behind with arrow, let them run towards you and away from the group, defeat in melee. Repeat until no more group.
I started my first playthrough as the wretch. I made do with what I could find.
Is to mark your way in dungeons, leaving behind you debris. Thus permit you to not get lost. Am I right ? (I've spent dozens of hours before figuring out this lol)
Great bows are also very loud. Great way to get a ancient somber stone from Mohg's palace. You can use it to shoot the wall near the mob of enemies that are standing guarding the chest and they'll just go over and investigate while you walk over quietly and get the stone. 10/10 wish I had learned that before my fifth playthrough.
The shattershard arrow you can craft lets you switch out the great bow, I didn’t even know they had these cool craftable arrows
So I've been attempting a bow only run. And it turns out that shooting bows (not crossbows) is COMPLETELY silent. As long as you are outside a mob's minimum aggro range. Sometimes you can hit them 4-5 times before they figure out where you are. This is very easy to see on the wandering dragons where after shooting them, they will often attempt to bite the air.
The I can't see shit part .
Felt that .
In every cave.
You forgot the shatter arrow. They seem useless since they barely do any damage to any vulnerability, BUT it is freakin loud.
If you go for stealth and need a distraction, use those. They are dirt cheap to craft too.
Assassin's Gambit helped quite a lot when doing the puzzle to get to the Haligtree. The Black Knife Assassins and Albinauric Archers can be quite annoying otherwise
This was good shit dude 🤘
I love the idea of playing elden ring like an assassin
If I enter direct combat I usually like to try and cast darkness then quickstep around for a backstab or if that doesn’t work I use raptor of the mists or parry dagger to fight with style
I suck at it but it makes me feel super cool when it works
The game looks extra colorful in this video
These no hit run videos really showed how powerful stealth can be
Stealth games are one of my favourite genres, so I didn’t really learn anything here. Was entertaining nonetheless. I like how your character looks like Venom Snake