One of the most pleasant experiences I had was with a slightly older woman I met at the old Bamboo bar. We had drinks and danced a bit. I asked her back to the hotel, and when I asked do you need to go soon, she said "Up to you"...I told her I need to get up at 7ish and eat breakfast. "No problem"...She was wonderful attitude-wise. Smiling all the time. This was the 90's. no smartphones. We had a wonderful time, watched TV...ate some room service, and talked. She was up bright with me, we had some tea and showered...got a surprise there. We didn't talk about money. I gave her an envelope with 1500 baht. That was my rate back then for an all-nighter. Saw her several times after that, all good!
Does anyone know what the current rate is for ST and LT (over-nighter) in pattaya. Like a range rate for most bars. The first time I did try it at Pattaya I think I got ripped off and I paid the Mamasan upfront and only got 2 hours with the girl 😂 I never went back and stuck with the clubs and the beach walkers 😅
Professor Trev and his words of wisdom. Great info for newbies. I remember when a hotel would ask for a joiner fee. Even if you booked a double. I was told that because they assume you are drunk and cannot speak Thai, you would just pay. I also remember a time when they were happy to be out of the bar with someone, they would hand your hand and really be excited. I also remember wait staff trying to "Con" you out of your change. You pay with 1000 baht note and all of the sudden you want to leave but your change never came back. (Always remember the number of the wait staff who took your money) go find the mamasan and tell what happened.I also remember the days when the lady appreciated you for how you treated her, she'd call her "Sister" (translator)who translated Thai to English and asked if you wanted another day. This was genuine. If she really appreciated how you treated her and she really wanted to stay but always replied "Up to You" because like you say Trev, they cannot lose face if she says yes, she wants to stay but you say "No Thanks" No longer will you find that kind of sincerity. It's business gents. Make sure you realize that. To ALL, Travel wisely, be safe and please stay healthy. Thanks Trev.
You are correct about the current state. I had thought that the ladies would appreciate the chance to be out of the GoGo and off their feet, with a couple of hours to just chill and get cuddles. Then I often find out that they want to leave early, to get back to the bar so they can do as many short times as possible. They may have bets with their coworkers on who can return from their ST the quickest. Often lousy customer service considering it is a "service business." I keep my expectations low now. It's still mostly Fun.
the morning after is a very dangerous moment for our health .Many have suffered a heart attack seeing their night love in the day light without make up and without the effect of alcohol on their body..Some even found that they had extra sausage for breakfast
A rule I followed was , get back to my room any valuables will already be in my safe -so what I have on me id simply go for a shower and take phone, wallet etc to bathroom with me - once id come out and the lady goes to the shower everything goes into the safe other than what I owe her in the morning and maybe a few extra hundred baht as a tip if I have fun , nothing on display and never give them any opportunity to get anything
great video as always, regarding morning activity, I cuddle up and if I get a reaction carry on. I pay in the morning. I met a lady who stayed with me for a few days, she was really nice so I got her booked in with reception they took a photo of her ID so she did not have to book in and give her ID card. she was also a great tour guide. after the first day I never bothered locking things up. Treat the lady with respect and you will get the best rewards
I'm pleased I found your channel Trevor ,Top stuff 👍🏻 every subject covered brilliant and informative thanks ,The last time I come to Thailand was 15 years ago so I'm in need of a few tips before I travel to Pattaya in November 2024 for 5 nights then off to Chiang Mai ,and Bangkok can't wait 😉
Always be on your guard. Remember that this is purely business. Overnight stay is asking for problems. You never see a happy Thai girl walking round with a western guy so what’s the point in taking them shopping etc. Say to the girls that you will be visiting the bar a lot and you will be taking other girls home during your stay. If you bring two girls back make them shower together before you do the deed. That gives you time to get your valuables away and even set the camera up if you’re into that sort of thing. Once you’ve done that you can join them in the shower which give you the opportunity to check them out. Best advice I can give is to get the girls out once you finished as you aren’t there to fall in love and that does save the walk of shame in the morning when everyones about. Alcohol does awful things to our eyesight and judgement.
Guys, Trev's advice is spot on and covers about 99% of the scenarios you may experience. Of course you may encounter an extremely rare incident (extreme "nutters" or extreme "cling-ons"), but as Mark L says below, "always be nice" and everything should work out or a better chance of it working out 🙂
Absolutely all solid advice! I agree and cannot stress more..THIS IS A BUSINESS! Her time, is money! Please sort all the business out upfront and get all the uncomfortable stuff out of the way! As I always say, “A ounce of prevention, is worth a pound of cure!” Good stuff!
I always found LT a hassle. Usually they are hard work to move, when you just want them up and out. For a newbie you may find it difficult, banging doors etc to try and wake them. No chance. Best option is to go for the kill and hopefully get lucky, or if not just tell them you need them out sharpish as you have places to go. Bottom line is don’t be Mr Nicey nice or they will take advantage. Agree the fee the night before and make sure you and they are not too kissed that you don’t have “fun” when you get back to the hotel or you may find them doing their best starfish impression in the morning. Always ensure they give their id to the reception. If they don’t have or not asked for then leave her behind and consider changing hotels. Many guys been drugged and robbed by freelancers, some possibly in collusion with staff. Always check the room when they not just for your valuables but the things they leave behind for an excuse to return that evening and try for another payday.
Lessons learned on my end. I no longer take girls back to my hotel room. Just get a short time hotel or go to a massage parlor. If it's a "good" girl you like, don't worry, she'll be around the next day. In Pattaya, you don't lose your girl, you just lose your turn.
Credit to Trevor for all his excellent videos on Pattaya. Having just got back from the city and had a wonderful time, I am amazed with the negative dribble people write about the city and her people. If you look down on Pattaya and the people who visit the city then why on earth do you watch these videos? Deep down these same individuals would love to go but never admit it. Speaking to those complaining individuals, believe me when I tell you that you are missing the best experience you would ever have in your life in Pattaya. Pity you'll never experience it and only secreatly dream about it. 🙂
First time there this last February and had kind of an awkward situation. Girl was sleeping like a log and I was afraid she was't gonna wake by the time I had to check out of the hotel. Luckily, I woke up, took a shower, she she was up when I came out... Walked her down, quick goodbye and she was on her way. I did lock everything in the safe the night before for peace of mind though.
No matter what you negotiated with her, it is iffy how things turn out. Pay After! I had thought that the ladies would appreciate the chance to be out of the GoGo and off their feet, with a couple of hours to just chill and get cuddles. But I often find out that they want to leave early, to get back to the bar so they can do as many short times as possible. (They may have bets with their coworkers on who can return from their ST the quickest!) I often received lousy customer service considering it is a "service business." I keep my expectations low now. It's still mostly Fun though.
Hi Trev, great vlog, thank you for the info. In the line from the play Romeo and Juliet, by William Shakespeare; Juliet is saying good night to Romeo. Their sorrowful parting is also “sweet” because it makes them think about the next time they will see each other. i.e, I can't wait to see you again,,,
Just take 2 at once and have every other day off. Its far better far more fun. Find one u like and ask her to pick the other girl. its so much less stress when you are out. they can chat away if u keep taking one and the same one, often you will get a broken heart. Ive been doing this for almost 30 years and thats the best way if u dont wanna get attached.
Wow. Things have changed since the 90's....I'll say "back in the day" morning action was zero factor, as a matter of fact, action whenever was no issue either. Women on overnight (Long time) loved hanging out, and were cool for a little food, and if she was prepared, a swim..... I stayed in a place near the Ambassador Hotel...place from the 'Nam" days, it had a centre courtyard pool which was close enough to the out point of the little balcony on our second (and my buddy's third) floor we were literally jumping off the balcony into the pool (for everyone of the girls it was their first time doing something so crazy; they liked the excitement)! Wild times! Usually they wanted to leave around 12-1 to get ready for their next work day....sometimes, they would simply ask to hangout another day at a discount. This was pretty normal back then....now? things are soooo different (could say ruined in a way) it seems.
25 years old here and been to pattaya once and can attest to everything Trevor has said from A to Z. I bar fined a real looker from a popular gogo, had a great night went to the nightclub after the bar with her friends . Then to the Hotel for some aerobics , Damm near slept until 3pm the morning after. She finally showers and leaves, being the idiot I am I go back to that gogo the following night wanting to meet someone new. Then I see the lovely Jen practically sprint when she see's me and locks me down after each of her songs. Although I honestly cant complain to much I did bar fine her for free the next TWO nights but alas she definitley got attached and so did I a bit. At the end of the day I dont have any regrets.
@@doubleoz2711 It happens my friend, work on that body and keep a positive vibe. You'll have them over YOU, not the other way around. Many of these girls just want to have some company, and some fun.
@@knowledge4741 yup, was waiting for these comments.. I’m in my early 30s but still look 25-28 and pulled a few local ones in both Pattaya and BKK but most do look for payments or something out it … a few where down to earth and never asked for anything but I still did leave some money for her as she helped me arrange a local taxi service back to BKK and spent that last few hours at her apartment in Jomtien 😂
Great reminders for ex pats and important info for Newbies. I found the best way is to just visit different Gentleman's Clubs or a bar with an "upstairs" Just remember to always. Be with the same girl at each establishment. ALL fees are paid before you leave the bar...
What ive gained from these vids is ad long as your up front things will go smoothly hopefully, ive never been to Thialand before but im much more confident of when i do go , thanks Trevor lad
I always set the requirements upfront before we agreed to a bar fine. They need to agree to boom boom in the morning before they leave, whatever time that happens to be. We also agree they won’t leave before about 7:00am. Otherwise I bar fine someone else. I always put all my valuables in the safe when I get in the room and take out the money to pay them when they leave. Personally I’ve never had a girl ask for payment before, but it’s been a year so if something has changed I wouldn’t know. I also always book two persons for the room, as you say it doesn’t cost more. Even with all of that I still get a clunker at a times, a girl who changes the agreement. Nothing to do but roll with the punches and get someone new the next night. Never get upset, it can only go bad for you.
Hi Trev great insight, thought I would leave a comment about my first experience in Pattaya only went there because I was working near by for 8 weeks, my first bar fine was on walking street you may remember the go go it was called Alcatraz I got stung all money up front didn't have a clue I was as green as they come the girl I bar fined I stayed with for 10 years
I barfined a real beauty from Sugar Sugar longtime. We had a very pleasant evening sitting on my balcony in View Talay 6, eating and drinking, then watching tv. The next morning she asked if she could stay longer so I said sure but I cannot pay more, and she said "No promlem I want stay anyway". She stayed 3 nights, I think she just wanted to sleep somewhere really nice because most of these girls live 3 or 4 to a very small room.
@@ponphitchayakanphakdi1809 Well I did say they like a nice room, which obviously includes aircon. Far more comfy than sleeping with 2 or 3 other girls in a tiny hot room.
I always book a room for 2 however they will still charge for a 3rd on those occasions where you need a buffet. Most hotels I stay at will still keep their ID & give you the call in the morning. If you are lucky, and it does happen probably 1/2 the time for me, then they are waking you up in a very nice way. A connection is very important if you want to maximise the chances of a great time. I have been to Thailand 18 times now (March 2023) the last time & never & would not pay up front. Cheers
I always book a room for 2 people too. In Pattaya the hotel staff just smiles when i bring a lady for ST (this was Amber hotel in Pattaya). they never asked for ID. When I was in Phuket best western patong they did do that. So I guess it's different per hotel and per place where you go. I used to go with girls LT, but I must say I like the ST, or if I make a booking LT I say to her let's go from 6pm to 2AM, lets grab food go out for drinks go to the hotel and then lets get you a taxi. That's what works best for me. You always pay after sex. I've had 1 time a girl asked for money BEFORE the sex because she said I was a bit drunk and she was afraid I would forget in the morning... which in all fairness I was. So I payed her before, we had sex and we had another round in the morning. She plundered the mini bar on her way out as her "tip". I just had a laugh and though sure, another 2-300 baht isnt gonna hurt me at this point. Flying tomorrow to BKK, 6th time for me now.
I was in Asia from 90 to 91. Our ville was really small. We could sponsor girls onto the base for swimming, pizza, cook outs, bowling, movies, hanging out at the rec center. Our girls were really chill😊
I am a butterfly, 90% of my life, this is who I have been. When in a monogamous relationship, I clipped my wings. Once the relationship ended, my wings grew back. I appreciate your advice. I don't want anyone to lose face. Sounds like I need to be upfront about it just as I am at home.
Pulled a girl once from one of the nightclubs on Walking Street which is open till very late 6-7 in the morning if not later. She was drunk..hmm.. not sure now ( so I was:)) ). We agreed on a price but I ran out of money so she paid for the taxi herself. As soon as I slipped the money into her hands she stood up and buuggered off. Don't know why I paid upfront, never did before. But the lesson learnt. She behaved inadequately in the nightclub, caused a lot of trouble, kicked a security guy, a customer, etc :))) I had to apologize for her and sort everything out. I should have NEVER taken her back to my room!!! What an idiot I was!! But...what I am trying to say...I wanted to kick off about the money but didn't thinking it would cost me more stress and troubles. It wasn't a big sum of money. Just let it go and will never do the same again. I hope)))
It's a mixed bag most of these bar fine babes . Some are gone by daybreak , some you wanna wake up and can't wait to leave , some you need a Jimmy bar failing that a crow bar to get rid of, some you don't want them to leave due to falling in love and found your new love , life is like a box of chocolates and so is a bar fine girl .
@@Buzzinpattaya great informative videos Trevor , be back there in a couple of weeks and if you have the time would be great to have a laugh and a beer or two .
Another thing, always always place your valuables inside the safe first. I usually do this before I head out for the night. Like my excess cash and any watch I might have. I only carry some cash or a credit card. Then when you get back to the room with her, you can reopen the safe and put those things in too when she is taking her shower. Best time to do this. As I mentioned in the other comment here I usually slip her money though into her purse. Then whatever is left of mine I put into the safe while she is taking her shower. Then by the time you go at it all things have been secured. Your valuables inside your safe plus she already has her money. They usually feel more secure knowing that you already gave them the money. It’s clear. Done with. Then you can both Shag away! 😎😆
Talking about checking everything before a girl leaves in the morning, I put all my valuables in the hotel safe but forgot about my expensive gold ring. Didn't realise she had slipped it off my finger when sleeping. Just a warning!
Depends on the situation and the woman. I've experienced the very good, bad and the ugly. But as a vet now everything goes very smooth. You live..You learn. But above all, Always secure your valuables. And there are several ways you can do this without ever being noticed.
I went to Pin Up gogo on walking street and for the first time ever in my time visiting Pattaya (I've been going since 2004) i was asked to pay everything (barfine and ladies fee) upfront to the bar before the girl could go with me. I thought WTF is going on here, i've never had that before or heard of it happening, i thought it was very dodgy, but now seeing your video it seems its happening a lot. I hadn't been back to Pattaya for a long, long time, since i lived there in 2004-2005, back then i never got the business attitude from any girl, they all hid it really well, but this time i went back they didn't seem to care, every single one was like you said, its just a business to them, bang bang, get money, and gone. Its all changed a lot. All very, very negatively. It used to be a good GF experience, but now its all like you say, just "business". I've had my eyes opened to how it is now, some real bitches about now too. I've had so many problems with the fkrs this time around. Think i'll miss off LK metro and walking street from now on lol. I'm going to go back soon after my operation wounds are healed to try change my current opinion of the once loved Pattaya. Maybe try some normal beer bars this time, problem there for me though is i never find any good looking lasses (up to my standard), they are much nicer in attitude there though, but all the really beautiful ones are in the gogo's now, demanding more money for a few hours work then what I earn in over 12hrs work back home, cheeky b******s 😂
Very well done video and excellent advice for a topic that can be treated as 'locker room' banter and not seen as a business arrangement. Most Isaan (Isan) women that choose (hopefully) to be bar girls are supporting their parents and/or kids, it's important for them to be successful. They need and should be treated respectfully. I appreciate your mature attitude and creating this video. On a side note at 10:55 I love seeing that Mama's Cafe is still there on Soi 6. I have had some delicious meals there when I needed a break from Thai cuisine. Makes me wonder if that little pup across the street at the jeweler/gold shop is still looking out the window?
1. Pay and fire my catch, 2. Coffee on my balcony, 3. Some routine gym and go out for a morning walk direction beach or town, followed by breakfast where I may chat with some nice chaps. If ever she is in a deep coma sleep, I can switch the sequence between 1 and 2. I have been asked to pay in the bar, but never did. I prefer short-time, actually changed the 3-day rule into the 3-hour rule. Line may be exchanged, depending on the service, for a potential next transaction.
thats very solid advice about calli g security and remain calm have sec manage an issue. dont even mention it to her.. which is opposite to farang culture. in my many yrs in siam i have only stayed in 2 bad hotels 1 who minor scammed me and one attempted. both in BKK. Ive always found it an essential mission at everywhere i stay to build firm good raport with the management and hotel im staying at. likewise u end up being return business.
I bar fined a little cutie and brought her back to the room about 7pm for LT, after about 1 1/2 hrs of action we fell asleep. During the night I eased back into her for round 2 and later round 3. She was so unhappy about being woke up that at 4am she said she was going back to her room to sleep, got dressed and left
@@Buzzinpattaya A big issue is that I have a real problem finishing with a condom due to the reduced sensitivity but considering the reality of what we’re dealing with there is no other option. I’ve also found that despite their attractiveness some of the girls are just not that skilled or enthusiastic when comes to satisfying a man. A totally inferior experience compared to being with a woman who truly cares for you and is also enjoying the intimacy. I realize this is a generalized statement solely based on my own limited encounters or perhaps I was just expecting too much
@@carterhayes4624 You are right on the $. I have the same problem as condoms kill it for me. Can't feel a damn thing so really gotta focus but chances of finishing are low, and if she's a starfish the chances deminish even further. The way acound this is to get her to finish you off manually with no condom. 60% of the time it works every time ;)
Hi Trevor, over the last 2 times I have been to Pattaya I have had 2 very different experiences. The first one is just a normal experience everything went smoothly and paid in the morning then she left. On the second time I went to Pattaya I had somewhat a very different experience. I met the girl in the bar just downstairs, got her line and took her to eat in the morning one time. After this I never paid for anything. No lady drinks no bar fine, no payment, and she only left to go to work sometimes at 3pm and sometimes at 6 pm. It just depended on her. Sometimes she would sneak up to my room to have a quicky during her work hours. I think I got lucky this time I went. and saved a lot of money. I even messed around with another girl in the same bar and didn’t pay and she was fine about it. I’m just wondering if anyone else has had this kind of experience with a bar girl at all? What do you think they are expecting from me?
I am a member for 14 months now, I was told in Maggie Mays that I can't use the card there. Even there is a video with you and the manager there, discussing the discount. Could we get an updated mail about the places where we can use the membercard?
Yeah a Thai lady losing face is a nightmare, I remember my first time was with the same girl 3 days straight from soi 8, I returned for a 4rth time (lol) but she had been taken, so I thought there we are then, off to Lucifers, picked up a takeaway, went back to Soi 8 as my hotel was there (Sunbeam) and walked passed the bar the first girl I had been with and all of a sudden without warning plates, cups, a dam chair comes flying into the street at me hahahahhaha.....I did manage to patch it up few days later as I did not want a problem and she was fine but would not talk to me much at all when I drank in the bar and would slam her drink down in front of me, bit of a show, but manageable, better than flying cups and plates lol... That was my first lesson... in 2007...
You did nothing wrong mate. The crazies love using the losing face thing as an excuse for their bad behaviour. 99% of thais would think she was an idiot.
Outstanding video per your usual top notch style! Can u pls lmk if there are any very nice hotels somewhat removed from the center yet still close enough that it does;t make a difference to enjoying the scene?Ideally I would prefer beachfront or beach access. Any suggestions would be most appreciated, kind sir🙏!
Recent trip not one wanted to stay so what to do in morning wasn't an issue. This was the first time this has ever happened. In previous years some wanted to get to know me but it was fairly robotic unfortunately. A few tried it on regarding payment before. I just said no, even got a mamasan involved. I was prepared to walk over this issue. Had enough try to leave prematurely without them already having thr money. Email the hotel before you stay asking if a joiner fee, if they try it then show the email. Print it for extra effect (they love paperwork) . The hotel still take ID when you take someone back even if booked for 2 guests. You can bypass this with some hotels but if you go to the desk they will take it.
execellent reminder that its just business to them! no issues with seeing different girls at buzzin bar, couldnt decide the one night so we drew straws to see who id take lt. girl in the hat won/lost she was great
You covered most of it Trev but even in the early 90s when I was a very regular visitor to Pattaya, paying the bar was almost always required. No pay now, no go off with you! It was as blunt as that all along walking street and, in many other bars. Regardless of how I book a room (usually for two) I always ensure I see the girls ID and, she leaves that ID with reception. Any objections either cut your losses or, divert to a short-time room. It's business, so if the girl is just pretending, the chances are you could find yourself without some of your belongings when you finally wake up. One other thing and it only happened once to me... Do not continue drinking in your room with her unless you open a sealed bottle yourself and never let it out of your hands. You could find yourself sleeping the sleep of the dead and the girl is long gone. I was lucky, I felt myself going light-headed, realised she had put something in the drink, and I kicked the her out before I passed out. I was out for about 12 hours solid and had the worst headache ever when I finally woke up. I went back to the bar the following night and talked to the Mamasan but, the girl was nowhere to be found. Quite possible the Mamasan was hiding her. It does happen. And remember, kick one and they all limp, if you have a problem with someone, stay calm and speak to the Mamasan about what happened. You won't get anywhere but the Mamsan will realise you're not a complete idiot. One tip I was given years ago... Almost all the rooms have a safety chain on the inside of the door. After you put the chain on, use a small padlock through the links to shorten the chain length . It prevents the chain being taken off without a lot of noise if she tries to sneak out. Bit dodgy if there were a fire but I take that chance.
For those of us who reach senior citizen hood, we, as have I, will examine our past behavior and the memories of the things we did and said that we’d now deny happened. If only I the opportunity to re-do the past….
15:31 so true mate, so true. I always tell the girls I am "butterfly", then joke "I am airport". barfine and come back next day and grab a different one. Its no problem if you're up front and honest right out of the gate. When guys have all this drama with the girls, its because they (the guys) allowed it to happen that way. Lay the rules down early and its never an issue.
"Parting is such sweet sorrow.." Is an oxymoron that depicts the conflicting emotions of sad to see you leave yet happy for the next time with whoever. Personally, it's exciting when someone leaves. You're free and yet you now have more options then you did the morning before.
You said in this video ( I think) that the Thai girls like to sleep.. They, also, are hungry all the time. I agreed with you but, then I started thinking about it. These bar girls, bar tenders, mamasans and bar owners live a "stay up all night" culture to please the tourists. It follows that they would have to sleep, during the day, if they're up all night. So, I don't believe it's their fault. It's just the night-owl life they lead... If they went back home and became a farmer, they'd be sleeping at night, again... What do you think???
I went to pattaya in my 20's and spent a few nights with a waitress from the rolling stones bar.. I always had another go with her in the morning, get a shower and send her off until later in the night.. Ill make it back there one of these days :D
I have only twice had a LT and on both times it was a pain in the arse. I am a day person more than night and don't like wasting daytime hours. Both times I had LT's I couldn't get the girls to leave until lunch time. I know it sounds selfish and it probably was, but my time out there was limited and I never liked to waste my days. For me, ST is always a winner as you get the same amount of fun followed by a decent nights kip and you're up and ready to enjoy the next day.
I am planning my trip and I 100% agree. My personality appreciates the days vs the nights. LT is likely not a good fit for me. ST seems to be what I will be aiming for.
on my most recent trip to phuket i was drinking with 2 bar girls in bangla rd, they kept saying "take both of us" i said "no one is enough" one of them replied & said "okay take me tonight & come back & take my friend tomorrow night" 😂 the rest is history
Coming to Thailand at Christmas going to hua hin first time after 13 years with the same Thai lady I broke up with the lady after I realise I was still a customer so I thank you for your your advice you have give I will take everything you said and sensible thank you
@@smoothriderr cant remember tbh one of those bars near suzy wong's that strip leading to kee resort at the end, im in pattaya now much prefer it to patong, phuket
Hope you guys took a test once you got back home ? Some STIs are resistant to antibiotics. I wouldn’t only be worried about my bank balance but my health….
Most of the people I know who go these days do just that. There was a big discussion on reddit the other day and half the dudes say when they go to pattaya they stay in the room most of the time and use thaifriendly to get girls to the room
Did make the mistake of paying up front on the first night of my first time in Pattaya. As it turned out, the deed was done, not great but not her fault, the beer goggles cleared, she hit the road, so other than my poor performance it was all good. Just the same was the first and last time I paid upfront. Down the track I married a Thai lady and have been paying upfront ever since. 555
Yeah I’ve had em leave at 6am to drop their kids off to school then come back after they’ve done that, had others that have stayed up until 6pm then leave to get ready for work.
It was impossible to get em out years ago not sure about now haven't been over for a while but should be finding out come back end of the year its a good subject really for a vid
I went to Kinks agogo bar - second floor is crazy. But to get a girl out early, you need to buy drinks as the girls are reluctant to leave too early. That was my experience. Go late at the earliest 1 am if you want to bring a bar girl to your hotel.
@@marksallai2289 Did that too on Walking Street. Cool clubs. Essentially any girl who is not with a guy is looking to hook up. Much cheaper than Bangkok.
the morning after.... Breakfast buffet at the Lek Hotel or Apex hotel. watching all the old guys eating with the young ladies. Awww heck. 20 years ago that wasn't me. Now at 67 it is me!
Never had any issues with that. We always went to bed around the same time , like 4 or 5 o'clock, so we both slept till around noon. And even if I woke up earlier, I'd just let her sleep until she comes out. no problem.
"Parting is such sweet sorrow that I shall say goodnight till it be marrow" means it sucks i have to leaves and i can't wait until I see you tomorrow/again/next..
My Thai wife wont leave the house until 11 am 10 if I am lucky. Thai's dont really eat breakfast they just eat what ever when ever. I love Breakfast. She wakes up early now because If she doesn't she will miss shopping which she love loves
The morning after Pattaya for me was a close call to going to Captain’s Mast. Fortunately, I was liberty restricted for 3 ports only to get off liberty restriction in time to go onshore to Phuket. Had a flippin blast in Thailand!
Yes asked to pay first just one time 4 years ago they told me (after I figured out their Tinglish) that some guys thought the bar fine, always paid up front, was the full price
Ive never really had a problem. I'm a club guy so most girls I meet don't have to wake up early and we dont even sleep until 7am. So round 2 isnt even until the afternoon then they normally leave around 4pm. I do usually have to say Im meeting friends or some lie...because they always want to stay and go out together.
If you have a laptop, you can place it in reception as it won't fit in the safe. Never leave a woman alone in your room unless youve secured your valuables.
I hid my laptop on the top of a shelf along with other valuables. In my opinion its better to hide things on top of something high than inside something u think wont be searched.
There is the rational and there are the emotions, the illusions of the mind. Emotions win always until experience teaches you otherwise, the keyword is; "experience", feeling the pain in real-time. ( over and over again ). "Your mind is a great servant but a dangerous Master....."
I can honestly say I have never taken a ST back to my hotel. They were all done in Rooms away from Hotel. In the early years when one falls in love you had the girl stay with you every night. Double the price for everything. Still had fun during the day with mates as long as I gave her a few Baht to go shopping. As the years went by yesterday u start to learn. You Start doing ST outside of Hotel and maybe a few LT in Hotel. Then you get older at the novelty of LT wears off. Yes I still did some but in the morning I would always make some excuse to get rid of her. Then it got to the point of a 16 day trip I may have somebody stay 5 different nights but that’s it. Fast forward to my last trip in Jan. met a beautiful girl the previous Nov. so she stayed with me the whole time. Still went on all the Bar Crawls and pool party but never St or LT once. Still had fun. I’m back again April and will do the same. The point is it all depends on what you want. 10 to 20 years ago I was shagging everything. 2 or 3 St in a day plus LT overnight. Now I am looking for MS Right and I think I have found her. It you pay for LT but feel after the event you want her to go just ask her if she wants to go. If she wants to stay just tell her you have to meet a mate early tomorrow morning. She will get the hint. It’s all in your own hands
I have booked a condo in the past where on first night i found they did not ask for ID. I approached reception later that day, asked them if they would be willing to ask and keep id when i had company and for all front desk staff to be advised of my preference. They agreed and i paid 1500 baht to say thankyou. I also leave passport, most of my money, bank cards, ipad in safe so the only thing mildly valuable is a few thousand baht in wallet, phone and a wireless speaker. Worth being vigilant imo And Dire Straits kicks ass...but brothers in arms there best lol
Oh oh oh the politics, Trev. 😂 Guys, 99.999% of our hotel rooms/beds are waaaay better than theirs. If they don't need to go early & you're nice & they like you, they're staying until noon 😂. Most of the girls are always tired. & those of you who use Thai Friendly know, Thai girls don't reply until the afternoon 😂. And no, they don't give a shit about "breakfast" the way us westerners do. Pay their taxi ffs, no brainer. Guys, don't be cheap. And if a bar wants the girls' money first, WALK. F that. We can't let girls/bars change the rules of 'pay after'. The most I've ever compromised on (with the girl not the bar) is 50% down, 50% in the morning. But rarely has a girl asked. Unless I'm strongly into the girl (no pun) & want her to stay, I always say "I've got to work today". Some of us are on working holidays & have to spend some time with our offices at home. Even so, it's a solid and reasonable reason to get rid of them. There's always a discreet moment to stuff your valuables in the room safe or hide them. Girls are invariably short, we're invariably tall, hide your shit high 😂. My wad has often rested atop a curtain track. But I'm 6'4 😂 Most of the girls are good & won't kick off unless you're an asshole. Treat them as you want to be treated. As Trev said, it's a biz transaction and they don't want to jeopardise payment or trouble with their bars. For those of you who take your chances on Beach Road? 😂 😂 😂 😂 Stop it, it's risky. So all the luck there. Can't say I follow my own advice there 😂 (sometimes they're really hot 🤷🏻♂️). M ✌🏼
One of the most pleasant experiences I had was with a slightly older woman I met at the old Bamboo bar. We had drinks and danced a bit. I asked her back to the hotel, and when I asked do you need to go soon, she said "Up to you"...I told her I need to get up at 7ish and eat breakfast. "No problem"...She was wonderful attitude-wise. Smiling all the time. This was the 90's. no smartphones. We had a wonderful time, watched TV...ate some room service, and talked. She was up bright with me, we had some tea and showered...got a surprise there. We didn't talk about money. I gave her an envelope with 1500 baht. That was my rate back then for an all-nighter. Saw her several times after that, all good!
Like taking a milf from the bamboo,always had a good time with them,they know what the game is all about,good service and no dramas
Nice one mate a lot has changed since then
Too bad it can’t be respectable like that anymore.
Loved the bamboo bar back in the 90s. Great night out on the dance floor. And great night back in tge bedroom. Makes me feel quite nostalgic 😆
Does anyone know what the current rate is for ST and LT (over-nighter) in pattaya. Like a range rate for most bars. The first time I did try it at Pattaya I think I got ripped off and I paid the Mamasan upfront and only got 2 hours with the girl 😂 I never went back and stuck with the clubs and the beach walkers 😅
Professor Trev and his words of wisdom. Great info for newbies. I remember when a hotel would ask for a joiner fee. Even if you booked a double. I was told that because they assume you are drunk and cannot speak Thai, you would just pay. I also remember a time when they were happy to be out of the bar with someone, they would hand your hand and really be excited. I also remember wait staff trying to "Con" you out of your change. You pay with 1000 baht note and all of the sudden you want to leave but your change never came back. (Always remember the number of the wait staff who took your money) go find the mamasan and tell what happened.I also remember the days when the lady appreciated you for how you treated her, she'd call her "Sister" (translator)who translated Thai to English and asked if you wanted another day. This was genuine. If she really appreciated how you treated her and she really wanted to stay but always replied "Up to You" because like you say Trev, they cannot lose face if she says yes, she wants to stay but you say "No Thanks" No longer will you find that kind of sincerity. It's business gents. Make sure you realize that. To ALL, Travel wisely, be safe and please stay healthy. Thanks Trev.
Hahaha no professor mate, an idiot more.like that's made many mistakes lol
You are correct about the current state. I had thought that the ladies would appreciate the chance to be out of the GoGo and off their feet, with a couple of hours to just chill and get cuddles.
Then I often find out that they want to leave early, to get back to the bar so they can do as many short times as possible. They may have bets with their coworkers on who can return from their ST the quickest. Often lousy customer service considering it is a "service business."
I keep my expectations low now. It's still mostly Fun.
@@sterling557 Well said. When you keep your expectations low, you will not likely be disappointed. Bottom line, it's all business. Travel safe m8!
the morning after is a very dangerous moment for our health .Many have suffered a heart attack seeing their night love in the day light without make up and without the effect of alcohol on their body..Some even found that they had extra sausage for breakfast
😂🤣😂
Lol
Exactly. As the old classic goes "what's the difference between a dog and a fox?....10 pints "
I'd just go get another hotel 🤣
😂😂😂happened to my boy on the ship lol was hula tour telling hun later or before whatever it was I don’t remember really
A rule I followed was , get back to my room any valuables will already be in my safe -so what I have on me id simply go for a shower and take phone, wallet etc to bathroom with me - once id come out and the lady goes to the shower everything goes into the safe other than what I owe her in the morning and maybe a few extra hundred baht as a tip if I have fun , nothing on display and never give them any opportunity to get anything
Good rule mate
great video as always, regarding morning activity, I cuddle up and if I get a reaction carry on.
I pay in the morning.
I met a lady who stayed with me for a few days, she was really nice so I got her booked in with reception they took a photo of her ID so she did not have to book in and give her ID card. she was also a great tour guide. after the first day I never bothered locking things up. Treat the lady with respect and you will get the best rewards
Good stuff!
Listen guys
This channel actually spits wisdom. I gotta give it that. Stick to short time.
Cheers
I'm pleased I found your channel Trevor ,Top stuff 👍🏻 every subject covered brilliant and informative thanks ,The last time I come to Thailand was 15 years ago so I'm in need of a
few tips before I travel to Pattaya in November 2024 for 5 nights then off to Chiang Mai ,and Bangkok can't wait 😉
Awesome, thank you!
Girl will take a shower before action when you get to the hotel room, that's a good time for you to put your stuff in safe.
ya missing out of the shower stuff, do it all when ya get in, she won't be offended
Best to ask her to keep her makeup on, or else 😂😮.
Also a good time to check for a dick …. Just in case 😂
@@daidavies6210that makes it more fun lil bruh
That's exactly what I do.....put wallet, phone etc in my safe
Always be on your guard. Remember that this is purely business. Overnight stay is asking for problems. You never see a happy Thai girl walking round with a western guy so what’s the point in taking them shopping etc. Say to the girls that you will be visiting the bar a lot and you will be taking other girls home during your stay. If you bring two girls back make them shower together before you do the deed. That gives you time to get your valuables away and even set the camera up if you’re into that sort of thing. Once you’ve done that you can join them in the shower which give you the opportunity to check them out. Best advice I can give is to get the girls out once you finished as you aren’t there to fall in love and that does save the walk of shame in the morning when everyones about. Alcohol does awful things to our eyesight and judgement.
Gotcha mate
3 hour rule Is best. Someone already said it. I also tell them I like to sleep alone. Great video and great advice in the comments also
Thanks for sharing!!
Guys, Trev's advice is spot on and covers about 99% of the scenarios you may experience. Of course you may encounter an extremely rare incident (extreme "nutters" or extreme "cling-ons"), but as Mark L says below, "always be nice" and everything should work out or a better chance of it working out 🙂
Thanks mate much appreciated
@@Buzzinpattaya thanks for reply you’re a G!
Absolutely all solid advice! I agree and cannot stress more..THIS IS A BUSINESS! Her time, is money! Please sort all the business out upfront and get all the uncomfortable stuff out of the way! As I always say, “A ounce of prevention, is worth a pound of cure!”
Good stuff!
Cheers mate
I always found LT a hassle. Usually they are hard work to move, when you just want them up and out. For a newbie you may find it difficult, banging doors etc to try and wake them. No chance. Best option is to go for the kill and hopefully get lucky, or if not just tell them you need them out sharpish as you have places to go. Bottom line is don’t be Mr Nicey nice or they will take advantage.
Agree the fee the night before and make sure you and they are not too kissed that you don’t have “fun” when you get back to the hotel or you may find them doing their best starfish impression in the morning.
Always ensure they give their id to the reception. If they don’t have or not asked for then leave her behind and consider changing hotels. Many guys been drugged and robbed by freelancers, some possibly in collusion with staff.
Always check the room when they not just for your valuables but the things they leave behind for an excuse to return that evening and try for another payday.
Great comment mate thanks for sharing your experience with us.
Your words should be a mantra for those who don`t know better and are in need of a guide for such things. Well done that man.
@@poonlikka6174 Cheers mate, much appreciated. There is lots more I can add tbh but I think I highlighted along with Trev the main points.
Or just don't buy prostitutes?
That may be the better solution to this whole problem.
@@keef6586 You and Trev should make a list that can be screenshot.
Lessons learned on my end. I no longer take girls back to my hotel room. Just get a short time hotel or go to a massage parlor. If it's a "good" girl you like, don't worry, she'll be around the next day. In Pattaya, you don't lose your girl, you just lose your turn.
Yeah makes life far easier
Credit to Trevor for all his excellent videos on Pattaya. Having just got back from the city and had a wonderful time, I am amazed with the negative dribble people write about the city and her people. If you look down on Pattaya and the people who visit the city then why on earth do you watch these videos? Deep down these same individuals would love to go but never admit it. Speaking to those complaining individuals, believe me when I tell you that you are missing the best experience you would ever have in your life in Pattaya. Pity you'll never experience it and only secreatly dream about it. 🙂
Cheers mate and well said
First time there this last February and had kind of an awkward situation. Girl was sleeping like a log and I was afraid she was't gonna wake by the time I had to check out of the hotel. Luckily, I woke up, took a shower, she she was up when I came out... Walked her down, quick goodbye and she was on her way. I did lock everything in the safe the night before for peace of mind though.
They can definitely sleep lol
No matter what you negotiated with her, it is iffy how things turn out. Pay After!
I had thought that the ladies would appreciate the chance to be out of the GoGo and off their feet, with a couple of hours to just chill and get cuddles. But I often find out that they want to leave early, to get back to the bar so they can do as many short times as possible. (They may have bets with their coworkers on who can return from their ST the quickest!)
I often received lousy customer service considering it is a "service business."
I keep my expectations low now. It's still mostly Fun though.
Spot on
Hi Trev, great vlog, thank you for the info. In the line from the play Romeo and Juliet, by William Shakespeare; Juliet is saying good night to Romeo. Their sorrowful parting is also “sweet” because it makes them think about the next time they will see each other. i.e, I can't wait to see you again,,,
Good point!
Just take 2 at once and have every other day off. Its far better far more fun. Find one u like and ask her to pick the other girl. its so much less stress when you are out. they can chat away if u keep taking one and the same one, often you will get a broken heart. Ive been doing this for almost 30 years and thats the best way if u dont wanna get attached.
Haha nice one
Wow. Things have changed since the 90's....I'll say "back in the day" morning action was zero factor, as a matter of fact, action whenever was no issue either. Women on overnight (Long time) loved hanging out, and were cool for a little food, and if she was prepared, a swim..... I stayed in a place near the Ambassador Hotel...place from the 'Nam" days, it had a centre courtyard pool which was close enough to the out point of the little balcony on our second (and my buddy's third) floor we were literally jumping off the balcony into the pool (for everyone of the girls it was their first time doing something so crazy; they liked the excitement)! Wild times! Usually they wanted to leave around 12-1 to get ready for their next work day....sometimes, they would simply ask to hangout another day at a discount. This was pretty normal back then....now? things are soooo different (could say ruined in a way) it seems.
Haha all change mate as ya said
I met plenty of girls over the past 10 years who were as you described. Perhaps its the bloke not the girl ;)
Great info to prepare for. It’s always better to know what to expect. 😊
Cheers mate
25 years old here and been to pattaya once and can attest to everything Trevor has said from A to Z. I bar fined a real looker from a popular gogo, had a great night went to the nightclub after the bar with her friends . Then to the Hotel for some aerobics , Damm near slept until 3pm the morning after. She finally showers and leaves, being the idiot I am I go back to that gogo the following night wanting to meet someone new. Then I see the lovely Jen practically sprint when she see's me and locks me down after each of her songs. Although I honestly cant complain to much I did bar fine her for free the next TWO nights but alas she definitley got attached and so did I a bit. At the end of the day I dont have any regrets.
I've been going to Thailand since I was 21, now 26 and I haven't paid for a female once and I've slept with at least a hundred there.
@@knowledge4741 yeah I’d have some of the girls telling me they’d pay me for it gotta love it
Thanks for sharing your experience with us mate much appreciated and glad you had a great time
@@doubleoz2711
It happens my friend, work on that body and keep a positive vibe. You'll have them over YOU, not the other way around.
Many of these girls just want to have some company, and some fun.
@@knowledge4741 yup, was waiting for these comments.. I’m in my early 30s but still look 25-28 and pulled a few local ones in both Pattaya and BKK but most do look for payments or something out it … a few where down to earth and never asked for anything but I still did leave some money for her as she helped me arrange a local taxi service back to BKK and spent that last few hours at her apartment in Jomtien 😂
Great reminders for ex pats and important info for Newbies. I found the best way is to just visit different Gentleman's Clubs or a bar with an "upstairs" Just remember to always. Be with the same girl at each establishment. ALL fees are paid before you leave the bar...
Great tip!
With all this said, under the 25 years I've been coming to Pattaya - I've never had any issues with Thai girls stealing anything else than my heart.
Hahaha so true mate
What ive gained from these vids is ad long as your up front things will go smoothly hopefully, ive never been to Thialand before but im much more confident of when i do go , thanks Trevor lad
Cheers mate and yes up front works best
Learn to spell first!
@@dereksimpson3783 Who? Him or Trev?
Great information with good humor included. Thanks.
cheers mate
@@Buzzinpattaya Cheers!
I always set the requirements upfront before we agreed to a bar fine. They need to agree to boom boom in the morning before they leave, whatever time that happens to be. We also agree they won’t leave before about 7:00am. Otherwise I bar fine someone else. I always put all my valuables in the safe when I get in the room and take out the money to pay them when they leave. Personally I’ve never had a girl ask for payment before, but it’s been a year so if something has changed I wouldn’t know. I also always book two persons for the room, as you say it doesn’t cost more. Even with all of that I still get a clunker at a times, a girl who changes the agreement. Nothing to do but roll with the punches and get someone new the next night. Never get upset, it can only go bad for you.
At least you know what to expect
Hi Trev great insight, thought I would leave a comment about my first experience in Pattaya only went there because I was working near by for 8 weeks, my first bar fine was on walking street you may remember the go go it was called Alcatraz I got stung all money up front didn't have a clue I was as green as they come the girl I bar fined I stayed with for 10 years
Remember the place well I was their photographer for 3 years, sorry that happened to ya mate
Cheers mate finished last November the pressure to build a house in issan village was to much for me so had to leave and file for devorce
I barfined a real beauty from Sugar Sugar longtime. We had a very pleasant evening sitting on my balcony in View Talay 6, eating and drinking, then watching tv. The next morning she asked if she could stay longer so I said sure but I cannot pay more, and she said "No promlem I want stay anyway". She stayed 3 nights, I think she just wanted to sleep somewhere really nice because most of these girls live 3 or 4 to a very small room.
Nice one mate
@@ponphitchayakanphakdi1809 Well I did say they like a nice room, which obviously includes aircon. Far more comfy than sleeping with 2 or 3 other girls in a tiny hot room.
I always book a room for 2 however they will still charge for a 3rd on those occasions where you need a buffet.
Most hotels I stay at will still keep their ID & give you the call in the morning.
If you are lucky, and it does happen probably 1/2 the time for me, then they are waking you up in a very nice way.
A connection is very important if you want to maximise the chances of a great time.
I have been to Thailand 18 times now (March 2023) the last time & never & would not pay up front.
Cheers
Gotcha
I always book a room for 2 people too. In Pattaya the hotel staff just smiles when i bring a lady for ST (this was Amber hotel in Pattaya). they never asked for ID. When I was in Phuket best western patong they did do that. So I guess it's different per hotel and per place where you go. I used to go with girls LT, but I must say I like the ST, or if I make a booking LT I say to her let's go from 6pm to 2AM, lets grab food go out for drinks go to the hotel and then lets get you a taxi. That's what works best for me. You always pay after sex. I've had 1 time a girl asked for money BEFORE the sex because she said I was a bit drunk and she was afraid I would forget in the morning... which in all fairness I was. So I payed her before, we had sex and we had another round in the morning. She plundered the mini bar on her way out as her "tip". I just had a laugh and though sure, another 2-300 baht isnt gonna hurt me at this point. Flying tomorrow to BKK, 6th time for me now.
I was in Asia from 90 to 91. Our ville was really small. We could sponsor girls onto the base for swimming, pizza, cook outs, bowling, movies, hanging out at the rec center. Our girls were really chill😊
Cheers for sharing your experience with us mate
@@Buzzinpattaya thanx
I am a butterfly, 90% of my life, this is who I have been. When in a monogamous relationship, I clipped my wings. Once the relationship ended, my wings grew back. I appreciate your advice. I don't want anyone to lose face. Sounds like I need to be upfront about it just as I am at home.
Haha good man thanks for sharing
I don't think the ladyboys care as long as you pay
@@mcluvin65 I imagine you are correct.
Pulled a girl once from one of the nightclubs on Walking Street which is open till very late 6-7 in the morning if not later. She was drunk..hmm.. not sure now ( so I was:)) ). We agreed on a price but I ran out of money so she paid for the taxi herself. As soon as I slipped the money into her hands she stood up and buuggered off. Don't know why I paid upfront, never did before. But the lesson learnt. She behaved inadequately in the nightclub, caused a lot of trouble, kicked a security guy, a customer, etc :))) I had to apologize for her and sort everything out. I should have NEVER taken her back to my room!!! What an idiot I was!! But...what I am trying to say...I wanted to kick off about the money but didn't thinking it would cost me more stress and troubles. It wasn't a big sum of money. Just let it go and will never do the same again. I hope)))
Yep.lesson learnt
Spot on great advice back in 2024 , been going for 30 yrs lol still learning
cheers mate
Excellent advise Treve! Good video mate.
Thanks 👍
Great video Trev good information.👍👍👍
Thanks 👍
It's a mixed bag most of these bar fine babes . Some are gone by daybreak , some you wanna wake up and can't wait to leave , some you need a Jimmy bar failing that a crow bar to get rid of, some you don't want them to leave due to falling in love and found your new love , life is like a box of chocolates and so is a bar fine girl .
Gotcha
very wise words and good advice as always Trevor! another top video!
Thanks mate
Throwing a glass at me 😂😂 that’s Anglo Saxon foreplay in London
Lol
@@Buzzinpattaya great informative videos Trevor , be back there in a couple of weeks and if you have the time would be great to have a laugh and a beer or two .
Another thing, always always place your valuables inside the safe first. I usually do this before I head out for the night. Like my excess cash and any watch I might have. I only carry some cash or a credit card. Then when you get back to the room with her, you can reopen the safe and put those things in too when she is taking her shower. Best time to do this. As I mentioned in the other comment here I usually slip her money though into her purse. Then whatever is left of mine I put into the safe while she is taking her shower. Then by the time you go at it all things have been secured. Your valuables inside your safe plus she already has her money. They usually feel more secure knowing that you already gave them the money. It’s clear. Done with. Then you can both Shag away! 😎😆
Great shout
Talking about checking everything before a girl leaves in the morning, I put all my valuables in the hotel safe but forgot about my expensive gold ring. Didn't realise she had slipped it off my finger when sleeping. Just a warning!
Wow that's bloody devious
Depends on the situation and the woman. I've experienced the very good, bad and the ugly. But as a vet now everything goes very smooth. You live..You learn. But above all, Always secure your valuables. And there are several ways you can do this without ever being noticed.
It's all about experience for sure mate
I like that freelancer bar down suk soi 7 (the beergarden) in bkk. Just no frills and cheap drinks. Girls are friendly and it's no BS
Gotcha mate
Quit hating, haters. Prostitution is the oldest business in the world. Simple transaction that serves both parties needs.
Well said
and a lot of western people not naming hate the thought of a guy being happy
@@marksallai2289 being happy comes from more than just sex my guy.
I went to Pin Up gogo on walking street and for the first time ever in my time visiting Pattaya (I've been going since 2004) i was asked to pay everything (barfine and ladies fee) upfront to the bar before the girl could go with me. I thought WTF is going on here, i've never had that before or heard of it happening, i thought it was very dodgy, but now seeing your video it seems its happening a lot. I hadn't been back to Pattaya for a long, long time, since i lived there in 2004-2005, back then i never got the business attitude from any girl, they all hid it really well, but this time i went back they didn't seem to care, every single one was like you said, its just a business to them, bang bang, get money, and gone. Its all changed a lot. All very, very negatively. It used to be a good GF experience, but now its all like you say, just "business". I've had my eyes opened to how it is now, some real bitches about now too. I've had so many problems with the fkrs this time around. Think i'll miss off LK metro and walking street from now on lol. I'm going to go back soon after my operation wounds are healed to try change my current opinion of the once loved Pattaya. Maybe try some normal beer bars this time, problem there for me though is i never find any good looking lasses (up to my standard), they are much nicer in attitude there though, but all the really beautiful ones are in the gogo's now, demanding more money for a few hours work then what I earn in over 12hrs work back home, cheeky b******s 😂
Wow mate what a situation that was jeeze, thanks for sharing your experience with us mate much appreciated
In my experience they only ask you up front if they think you're a tourist or inexperienced. Or they think you don't actually have the money
Very well done video and excellent advice for a topic that can be treated as 'locker room' banter and not seen as a business arrangement. Most Isaan (Isan) women that choose (hopefully) to be bar girls are supporting their parents and/or kids, it's important for them to be successful. They need and should be treated respectfully. I appreciate your mature attitude and creating this video. On a side note at 10:55 I love seeing that Mama's Cafe is still there on Soi 6. I have had some delicious meals there when I needed a break from Thai cuisine. Makes me wonder if that little pup across the street at the jeweler/gold shop is still looking out the window?
Thanks mate much appreciated
1. Pay and fire my catch, 2. Coffee on my balcony, 3. Some routine gym and go out for a morning walk direction beach or town, followed by breakfast where I may chat with some nice chaps. If ever she is in a deep coma sleep, I can switch the sequence between 1 and 2. I have been asked to pay in the bar, but never did. I prefer short-time, actually changed the 3-day rule into the 3-hour rule. Line may be exchanged, depending on the service, for a potential next transaction.
Very good!
Really great informative video and it covered everything 👍10/10
Glad you enjoyed it!
First time viewer. Excellent video, mate. Cheers.
Wow thanks mate much appreciated
Quality, insightful content .
Thanks mate
thats very solid advice about calli g security and remain calm have sec manage an issue. dont even mention it to her.. which is opposite to farang culture.
in my many yrs in siam i have only stayed in 2 bad hotels 1 who minor scammed me and one attempted. both in BKK. Ive always found it an essential mission at everywhere i stay to build firm good raport with the management and hotel im staying at. likewise u end up being return business.
Worked for me
Great advice on checking your belongings.
Thanks for watching!
I bar fined a little cutie and brought her back to the room about 7pm for LT, after about 1 1/2 hrs of action we fell asleep. During the night I eased back into her for round 2 and later round 3. She was so unhappy about being woke up that at 4am she said she was going back to her room to sleep, got dressed and left
Lol whoops
@@Buzzinpattaya A big issue is that I have a real problem finishing with a condom due to the reduced sensitivity but considering the reality of what we’re dealing with there is no other option. I’ve also found that despite their attractiveness some of the girls are just not that skilled or enthusiastic when comes to satisfying a man. A totally inferior experience compared to being with a woman who truly cares for you and is also enjoying the intimacy. I realize this is a generalized statement solely based on my own limited encounters or perhaps I was just expecting too much
@@carterhayes4624 You are right on the $. I have the same problem as condoms kill it for me. Can't feel a damn thing so really gotta focus but chances of finishing are low, and if she's a starfish the chances deminish even further. The way acound this is to get her to finish you off manually with no condom. 60% of the time it works every time ;)
Hi Trevor, over the last 2 times I have been to Pattaya I have had 2 very different experiences. The first one is just a normal experience everything went smoothly and paid in the morning then she left. On the second time I went to Pattaya I had somewhat a very different experience. I met the girl in the bar just downstairs, got her line and took her to eat in the morning one time. After this I never paid for anything. No lady drinks no bar fine, no payment, and she only left to go to work sometimes at 3pm and sometimes at 6 pm. It just depended on her. Sometimes she would sneak up to my room to have a quicky during her work hours. I think I got lucky this time I went. and saved a lot of money. I even messed around with another girl in the same bar and didn’t pay and she was fine about it. I’m just wondering if anyone else has had this kind of experience with a bar girl at all? What do you think they are expecting from me?
Nice one my friend it sounds like that she really enjoyed spending time with you fair play
nice one more of gf material enjoys your company
Bro you give great advice on your videos
Glad you like them!
I am a member for 14 months now, I was told in Maggie Mays that I can't use the card there. Even there is a video with you and the manager there, discussing the discount.
Could we get an updated mail about the places where we can use the membercard?
Thanks for this I will speak to Steven
Yeah a Thai lady losing face is a nightmare, I remember my first time was with the same girl 3 days straight from soi 8, I returned for a 4rth time (lol) but she had been taken, so I thought there we are then, off to Lucifers, picked up a takeaway, went back to Soi 8 as my hotel was there (Sunbeam) and walked passed the bar the first girl I had been with and all of a sudden without warning plates, cups, a dam chair comes flying into the street at me hahahahhaha.....I did manage to patch it up few days later as I did not want a problem and she was fine but would not talk to me much at all when I drank in the bar and would slam her drink down in front of me, bit of a show, but manageable, better than flying cups and plates lol... That was my first lesson... in 2007...
Absolutely they do not want or need to lose face it doesn't end well
You did nothing wrong mate. The crazies love using the losing face thing as an excuse for their bad behaviour. 99% of thais would think she was an idiot.
@@Buzzinpattaya but he said "the 4th time, she had been taken", so why was she angry? What should one do if this happens?
Love the video mate don't think I can eat them but I'm going to give it a try in January thank again
Hope you enjoy
The morning after, waking up alive this a good start, nothing missing is great but not getting S.T.D. is best.
Lol happy days
Outstanding video per your usual top notch style! Can u pls lmk if there are any very nice hotels somewhat removed from the center yet still close enough that it does;t make a difference to enjoying the scene?Ideally I would prefer beachfront or beach access.
Any suggestions would be most appreciated, kind sir🙏!
Areca lodge mate is nice
thanks so much!!!
Recent trip not one wanted to stay so what to do in morning wasn't an issue. This was the first time this has ever happened. In previous years some wanted to get to know me but it was fairly robotic unfortunately.
A few tried it on regarding payment before. I just said no, even got a mamasan involved. I was prepared to walk over this issue. Had enough try to leave prematurely without them already having thr money.
Email the hotel before you stay asking if a joiner fee, if they try it then show the email. Print it for extra effect (they love paperwork) . The hotel still take ID when you take someone back even if booked for 2 guests. You can bypass this with some hotels but if you go to the desk they will take it.
wow mate that's a massive change in how it normally happens
And..another..well..done..advice..by..Trevor..thanks.taking..notes..!!!😊
Thanks again!
execellent reminder that its just business to them! no issues with seeing different girls at buzzin bar, couldnt decide the one night so we drew straws to see who id take lt. girl in the hat won/lost she was great
Hahaha the hip hop girl is great fun
So helpfull video for inexpreience geezers .
Thanks Trevor.
Glad you enjoyed it
You covered most of it Trev but even in the early 90s when I was a very regular visitor to Pattaya, paying the bar was almost always required. No pay now, no go off with you! It was as blunt as that all along walking street and, in many other bars. Regardless of how I book a room (usually for two) I always ensure I see the girls ID and, she leaves that ID with reception. Any objections either cut your losses or, divert to a short-time room. It's business, so if the girl is just pretending, the chances are you could find yourself without some of your belongings when you finally wake up. One other thing and it only happened once to me... Do not continue drinking in your room with her unless you open a sealed bottle yourself and never let it out of your hands. You could find yourself sleeping the sleep of the dead and the girl is long gone. I was lucky, I felt myself going light-headed, realised she had put something in the drink, and I kicked the her out before I passed out. I was out for about 12 hours solid and had the worst headache ever when I finally woke up. I went back to the bar the following night and talked to the Mamasan but, the girl was nowhere to be found. Quite possible the Mamasan was hiding her. It does happen. And remember, kick one and they all limp, if you have a problem with someone, stay calm and speak to the Mamasan about what happened. You won't get anywhere but the Mamsan will realise you're not a complete idiot.
One tip I was given years ago... Almost all the rooms have a safety chain on the inside of the door. After you put the chain on, use a small padlock through the links to shorten the chain length .
It prevents the chain being taken off without a lot of noise if she tries to sneak out.
Bit dodgy if there were a fire but I take that chance.
Thanks mate much appreciated
100% again Trevor, great advise, just be aware that's all I can say. Trust your instincts
Cheers mate
For those of us who reach senior citizen hood, we, as have I, will examine our past behavior and the memories of the things we did and said that we’d now deny happened. If only I the opportunity to re-do the past….
Gotcha
15:31 so true mate, so true. I always tell the girls I am "butterfly", then joke "I am airport". barfine and come back next day and grab a different one. Its no problem if you're up front and honest right out of the gate. When guys have all this drama with the girls, its because they (the guys) allowed it to happen that way. Lay the rules down early and its never an issue.
Hot Air balloon, I don't move so fast nowadays lol
"Parting is such sweet sorrow.."
Is an oxymoron that depicts the conflicting emotions of sad to see you leave yet happy for the next time with whoever.
Personally, it's exciting when someone leaves. You're free and yet you now have more options then you did the morning before.
Gotcha
Hey , started watching your videos ,interesting and informative my pals and I are gong to start planning to take a trip their ,
Welcome aboard!
Totally agree with your advice mate!
Thank you very much
You said in this video ( I think) that the Thai girls like to sleep.. They, also, are hungry all the time. I agreed with you but, then I started thinking about it. These bar girls, bar tenders, mamasans and bar owners live a "stay up all night" culture to please the tourists. It follows that they would have to sleep, during the day, if they're up all night. So, I don't believe it's their fault. It's just the night-owl life they lead... If they went back home and became a farmer, they'd be sleeping at night, again... What do you think???
Mate they are sleeping away from working the bar scene, it's part of their DNA lol
I went to pattaya in my 20's and spent a few nights with a waitress from the rolling stones bar.. I always had another go with her in the morning, get a shower and send her off until later in the night.. Ill make it back there one of these days :D
Nice one
Thank you very much for the vidéo. You have a very mature and wise way of looking to situations.
Thanks mate much appreciated
I have only twice had a LT and on both times it was a pain in the arse. I am a day person more than night and don't like wasting daytime hours. Both times I had LT's I couldn't get the girls to leave until lunch time. I know it sounds selfish and it probably was, but my time out there was limited and I never liked to waste my days. For me, ST is always a winner as you get the same amount of fun followed by a decent nights kip and you're up and ready to enjoy the next day.
Nothing worse than trying to get on with ya day and ya can't
I am planning my trip and I 100% agree. My personality appreciates the days vs the nights. LT is likely not a good fit for me. ST seems to be what I will be aiming for.
If it’s a pain in the arse you need to reverse what you’re doing.
@@Buzzinpattaya Absolutely! And a Thai girl definitely knows how to stretch a lie in out from my experience!!
Hi Trev, can you do a video on where are all the ST hotels.
I can show these yeah mate leave it with me
Thanks for providing ptactical hints ... keep it going.
Always!
on my most recent trip to phuket i was drinking with 2 bar girls in bangla rd, they kept saying "take both of us" i said "no one is enough" one of them replied & said "okay take me tonight & come back & take my friend tomorrow night" 😂 the rest is history
Lol
Coming to Thailand at Christmas going to hua hin first time after 13 years with the same Thai lady I broke up with the lady after I realise I was still a customer so I thank you for your your advice you have give I will take everything you said and sensible thank you
What's the name of the bar mate?
@@smoothriderr cant remember tbh one of those bars near suzy wong's that strip leading to kee resort at the end, im in pattaya now much prefer it to patong, phuket
Hope you guys took a test once you got back home ? Some STIs are resistant to antibiotics. I wouldn’t only be worried about my bank balance but my health….
more good advice! been to Thailand several times and I was not sure about any 'morning activities' if you had a LT arrangement :)
Thanks for sharing!
Most of the people I know who go these days do just that. There was a big discussion on reddit the other day and half the dudes say when they go to pattaya they stay in the room most of the time and use thaifriendly to get girls to the room
Did make the mistake of paying up front on the first night of my first time in Pattaya. As it turned out, the deed was done, not great but not her fault, the beer goggles cleared, she hit the road, so other than my poor performance it was all good. Just the same was the first and last time I paid upfront. Down the track I married a Thai lady and have been paying upfront ever since. 555
Always pay after
Thank you for sharing
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You are so welcome
Yeah I’ve had em leave at 6am to drop their kids off to school then come back after they’ve done that, had others that have stayed up until 6pm then leave to get ready for work.
Thanks for sharing your experience with us mate much appreciated
It was impossible to get em out years ago not sure about now haven't been over for a while but should be finding out come back end of the year its a good subject really for a vid
Cheers mate
I went to Kinks agogo bar - second floor is crazy. But to get a girl out early, you need to buy drinks as the girls are reluctant to leave too early. That was my experience. Go late at the earliest 1 am if you want to bring a bar girl to your hotel.
Thanks for sharing your experience with us mate much appreciated
or go night club a lot agogo girls freelance there after
@@marksallai2289 Did that too on Walking Street. Cool clubs. Essentially any girl who is not with a guy is looking to hook up. Much cheaper than Bangkok.
the morning after.... Breakfast buffet at the Lek Hotel or Apex hotel. watching all the old guys eating with the young ladies. Awww heck. 20 years ago that wasn't me. Now at 67 it is me!
haha good man
As you said it's a business - morning activities, price, number if shots and what activities should be agreed before you leave the bar👍
Exactly mate
Never had any issues with that. We always went to bed around the same time , like 4 or 5 o'clock, so we both slept till around noon. And even if I woke up earlier, I'd just let her sleep until she comes out. no problem.
Nice one
👍🏻👍🏻 best way bud
"Parting is such sweet sorrow that I shall say goodnight till it be marrow" means it sucks i have to leaves and i can't wait until I see you tomorrow/again/next..
Lol
Excellent advice, Trevor. Thank you. 👍
My pleasure!
My Thai wife wont leave the house until 11 am 10 if I am lucky. Thai's dont really eat breakfast they just eat what ever when ever. I love Breakfast. She wakes up early now because If she doesn't she will miss shopping which she love loves
haha shopping works
The morning after Pattaya for me was a close call to going to Captain’s Mast. Fortunately, I was liberty restricted for 3 ports only to get off liberty restriction in time to go onshore to Phuket. Had a flippin blast in Thailand!
nice one mate
Yes asked to pay first just one time 4 years ago they told me (after I figured out their Tinglish) that some guys thought the bar fine, always paid up front, was the full price
Gotcha mate
That's a good story, very articulate.
Cheers mate
Make sure she is 5"2 or shorter. Pretty much 100% chance she's an actual female.
Lol
John Mcafee said tell they girl you are looking for a ladyboy. If she gets up to leave she is likely a real female.
Exactly! Always go for a spinner. So much added fun when you get bored with the sex bit...
Ive never really had a problem. I'm a club guy so most girls I meet don't have to wake up early and we dont even sleep until 7am. So round 2 isnt even until the afternoon then they normally leave around 4pm. I do usually have to say Im meeting friends or some lie...because they always want to stay and go out together.
hahaha as long as it works mate
If you have a laptop, you can place it in reception as it won't fit in the safe. Never leave a woman alone in your room unless youve secured your valuables.
Indeed
I hid my laptop on the top of a shelf along with other valuables. In my opinion its better to hide things on top of something high than inside something u think wont be searched.
No. Put her on the top shelf, that way you can continue to use your phone/laptop with complete confidence.
There is the rational and there are the emotions, the illusions of the mind.
Emotions win always until experience teaches you otherwise, the keyword is; "experience", feeling the pain in real-time. ( over and over again ).
"Your mind is a great servant but a dangerous Master....."
Gotcha mate
I can honestly say I have never taken a ST back to my hotel. They were all done in Rooms away from Hotel. In the early years when one falls in love you had the girl stay with you every night. Double the price for everything. Still had fun during the day with mates as long as I gave her a few Baht to go shopping. As the years went by yesterday u start to learn. You Start doing ST outside of Hotel and maybe a few LT in Hotel. Then you get older at the novelty of LT wears off. Yes I still did some but in the morning I would always make some excuse to get rid of her. Then it got to the point of a 16 day trip I may have somebody stay 5 different nights but that’s it. Fast forward to my last trip in Jan. met a beautiful girl the previous Nov. so she stayed with me the whole time. Still went on all the Bar Crawls and pool party but never St or LT once. Still had fun. I’m back again April and will do the same. The point is it all depends on what you want. 10 to 20 years ago I was shagging everything. 2 or 3 St in a day plus LT overnight. Now I am looking for MS Right and I think I have found her. It you pay for LT but feel after the event you want her to go just ask her if she wants to go. If she wants to stay just tell her you have to meet a mate early tomorrow morning. She will get the hint. It’s all in your own hands
Fair one mate
I have booked a condo in the past where on first night i found they did not ask for ID. I approached reception later that day, asked them if they would be willing to ask and keep id when i had company and for all front desk staff to be advised of my preference. They agreed and i paid 1500 baht to say thankyou. I also leave passport, most of my money, bank cards, ipad in safe so the only thing mildly valuable is a few thousand baht in wallet, phone and a wireless speaker. Worth being vigilant imo
And Dire Straits kicks ass...but brothers in arms there best lol
Thank you for sharing and yes brothers in arms what an album
Oh oh oh the politics, Trev. 😂
Guys, 99.999% of our hotel rooms/beds are waaaay better than theirs. If they don't need to go early & you're nice & they like you, they're staying until noon 😂. Most of the girls are always tired. & those of you who use Thai Friendly know, Thai girls don't reply until the afternoon 😂. And no, they don't give a shit about "breakfast" the way us westerners do.
Pay their taxi ffs, no brainer. Guys, don't be cheap. And if a bar wants the girls' money first, WALK. F that. We can't let girls/bars change the rules of 'pay after'. The most I've ever compromised on (with the girl not the bar) is 50% down, 50% in the morning. But rarely has a girl asked.
Unless I'm strongly into the girl (no pun) & want her to stay, I always say "I've got to work today". Some of us are on working holidays & have to spend some time with our offices at home. Even so, it's a solid and reasonable reason to get rid of them.
There's always a discreet moment to stuff your valuables in the room safe or hide them. Girls are invariably short, we're invariably tall, hide your shit high 😂. My wad has often rested atop a curtain track. But I'm 6'4 😂
Most of the girls are good & won't kick off unless you're an asshole. Treat them as you want to be treated. As Trev said, it's a biz transaction and they don't want to jeopardise payment or trouble with their bars. For those of you who take your chances on Beach Road? 😂 😂 😂 😂 Stop it, it's risky. So all the luck there. Can't say I follow my own advice there 😂 (sometimes they're really hot 🤷🏻♂️).
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Brilliant mate loved reading your comment thank you
Good info, especially bout hiding your stuff high, made me a laugh 🍻👍🏻
@@alfgarnet1264 tricks you learn as a parent hiding crimbo prezzies. 🤣
Yes, there are some beauties out on beach road. However they speak English too well for me:)
Yeah, their odometers must be in high figures.