Make sure too to put all your valuables into the safe in your room while she is taking her shower. I always tell her to take the shower first. That way I can use the safe while she is in the shower. Put your watch, passport, and any money (beyond what you will give to her) in the safe. Then when you take your shower it’s all put away in the safe. She can’t get to it. In case.
Any half decent hotel will retain her id at reception and call your room when she leaves to check everything is okay, if it isn’t- they will retain her id and call the police if you have problems. This is true I believe, so no worries there. Always book a decent hotel, it pays in the long run - for security if nothing else🙏🇬🇧☺️
@@bluefox9019 ??? Why do you care? What business is it if yours? There is only 1 reason any man would care about that? It's because he's already hooked on her, and wants to gauge what she makes? In regards to how much he's going to be paying her going forward. Someone is trying to wife, commit, bail down a working girl. Thus trying to learn how much he needs to pay her per month? To Stop selling 😺 STOP. Stop, Stop. It's a sucker- I wanna be her sponsor type of move Don't do it Why would any man want to commit, agree to support community 😺? Why? You will Only slow it down, Never completely stop her. And you will Not be able to control, monitor how she behaves, acts. You Can't. And why would you want to? The men with No leverage in relationships are the ones Afraid to Leave.
Benjy's top top for free lancers is to lock ALL your things in the safe as soon as you get in the room. Wallet, phone, watch.... Everything ! Then just have a good time 😊
trev , i only use freelance ladys , i very rarely pay barfines ,in 12 years of coming to pattaya i have never had a bad experiance , i pick them up around treetown ,in imsomnia or beach road and always take them back to my room, no problems , i now have around 7 freelance ladies who i call on line and then take them out for the night , yes i always bag up and once in my room and put my wallet in the safe .....
Getting a working girl in Thailand is very similar to buying a car! The ago go is the dealership where you get the pretty newer makes and models with a mama San warranty. The beer bars are like used car dealers where you can still get a good car just not as new and pretty and still with a mama San warranty. The car listings in papers and magazines is like ThaiFriendly. Sometimes the photos aren’t like what’s advertised so you need a bit of luck to score . And buying a car off the street from a private person is the same like picking up a girl off the streets! No warranty, no promises and completely your own risk! 🤣
You have to be sensible. Two mates of mine got a bit tipsy as they walked near the beach. A pretty girl called one of them over and he stupidly followed her. When the other one went back to look to see where his mate had gone he found him semi-conscious on the sand after being bashed on the head by a man who stole his camera and valuables. They reported it to the Tourist Police but they couldn’t do much about it apart from advising them to take more care in future!
had about 20/30 freelancers last visit. Never any problems easy to order one to your room .very convenient. found them all to be very honest. maybe just lucky will try again when i get back
I've been back in Australia for about 10 days now, and your video just made me miss Pattaya all the more 😥😥But I can assure you that Beach Rd still has plenty of freelancers - I didn't see the police hassle any of them during my 2 months in Pattaya.
I hired a beach rd girl a few years ago and she was stunning. I took her back to my hotel, which meant that she had to produce her id at reception. Of course I made sure there were no valuables or cash kicking around. All ok, no problems and I definitely bagged up!
Trev reliving happy memories about the time he met the ladies with special additional feature lol. The guy with glasses the black shirt and the strange hand movements looks like the lead singer from madness lol its must be love lol great video mate!
I stay at 4 or 5 Star hotels in Pattaya and I bring the girls all back to my hotel room! Nothing every has gone wrong! All the hotels take the girls ID and then return their id's after the ladies leave the hotel. If you don't accompany the ladies when they leave, the staff always calls the hotel room to make sure your ok! You gentlemen understand correct??
@@paulmcfarlane3250 Hi bud. The hotels I stayed at never changed anything extra for guests to my room. Before booking your hotel you should inquire if guests are allowed for free or if you need to pay extra.
From the other perspective, be nice to the girls. Just because they're from another country and do the job they do does not mean you can treat them poorly. I have heard first hand stories of men being very mean to freelancers. We are all human, be respectful.
A few years back, I picked up a freelancer from Rolling Live 3 on Soi 8. She was an older lady but was a great dancer. After Rolling Live, she took me karaoke singing before heading back to the hotel. She was a terrific sh@g and I had a great night with her.
Trev I still got to tell you abt my first time in Thailand back in 2015 where I picked up a Freelancer in Phuket It’s a story and a half I’ll tell you and others over some beers when I finally can get over 😄
Great advice Trev, I wish I knew all the things you talked about before my first trip,I used my own judgement and to be honest not sure if was lucky or good judge looking back on 10 years of coming to pattaya i was lucky, go go clubs to bear bars to freelance ladies I didn’t get to any trouble
Yes Trevor's a bar owner and has to handle the girls...many will say there is a conflict of interest but be fair, he promotes many bars and businesses and covers many topics of interest to those going to Pattaya. His info is for those who already decided to go to Pattaya, it is not aimed to convince a newby to go. He offers his knowledge, and he does have the experience so it is well worth listening to.....now what you do after listening is up to you. Yes he owns a bar but its obvious he want his customers safe, infact he wants everyone who goes to Pattaya to be safe. Most freelancers work off line groups close to home now, especially because its so quiet the Laos girls that work in the Nth East have gone home leaving local freelancers the local work which is charged by the hr.
Had a good one in Jomtien few months back, half 2 in the morning and walking along the front totally peed up, heard someone calling out, so back to my room, she gave me a full body massage in the morning then did the business 1000 baht, was all good 👍🏻
Trev, I know it's common in Go-Go bars for the girls to be tested but haven't heard of bars doing it. Regardless, wouldn't trust the paper it's written on AND she could've been with anyone between the last test and meeting you.
I have been Pattaya 11 times, met many freelancers and never any problems, But 3 times I have had big problems with drunk bar girls after bar fining them, And the 'point of contact' bars all backed their girls and told me where to go 😅 and one of my mates got HIV from a bar girl in soi 8 = so they don't all check
if some bars healthy check they girls enery month u can still get hiv if is very badluck but is not easy tell where get if have to wait 3 months and after can be see in your blood u get or not.(use protection,it is own fault if get it and not used
she got drunk and disappeared in a club, I wanted my bar fine back, but she told her mamasan she went my hotel, so I asked which hotel, she didnt know, but bar still backed her and asked me to leave, was not so much the 500 barfine as all the drinks I brought too lol,@@Buzzinpattaya
@@blindfury7160 That sucks dude, really does. That would discourage me from going that angle. Glad to hear you have been 11 times and no problems with FL. Not sure the route I will take ...
I speak simp so i can translate. What he means is "I am terrified of the missus and am scared she will read my comment. I dream of going to Pattaya and will do if I ever win the lottery and get away from this white whale."
@@corbintravis7512 Speak for yourself. Some people simply do not find paying for sex appealing, nor spending their holiday time at tourist destinations like Pattaya.
Some great advice there Trev. Personally never do social media as 'the hunt' is half the fun for me. Also the bragging by some of the term 'bareback' is sheer madness. Bar girl or freelancer the risk doesn't go away... ALWAYS use a condom every time.
I've had more problems over the years with the girls in gogo bars than I've ever had Freelancers in fact just the other night. I went to the Las Vegas gogo bar in LK metro where I meet a beautiful girl we agreed a price for long time but when I went back to my condo she demanded payment up front, which made me suspicious. After further conversation it turned out she was only going do short time with me. So I got ripped off for the 1200b. Bar fine plus the drinks. So I'll never be visiting Las Vegas gogo bar again😂
It’s very unlikely you get s goo go girl from Anywhere will Do Long time with you it’s seems to Have gone now after covid . Short time only makes them far more money . Jc
@johnwhite4638 there's normally not a problem with getting a girl to do long time but this girl had agreed long time with me and then deliberately deceive me. I Suppose most men would just pay up so she's able to get away with it a lot of the time.
yea unlike some low lives on youtube going up and down soi 6 videoing all the bar girls every day 😒 no respect at all its pathetic i hope one day something happens to them and they regret every doing any of of it
I have always treated girls like a business transaction, be clear what you want up front and agree on a price and time , it’s not expected that you pay for a bolt ride for her to get back but I always offer and call the bolt myself and pay the driver myself , you then have proof she left you in one piece, cover your arse every chance you get.
I appreciate how you run your channel. Respect for people's privacy does not seem to be a consideration for many other channels with similar content. Thank you.
lol remember Xzone - WOW! Windmill and the red and green bar mats in the Garden and some great nights up and down stairs in Insomnia. There used to be a cool club down some stairs on the right just as you enter Walking Street, a bar that played Isan music. good times. would love to return again one day. good content BTW matey keep up the good work.
The Beer garden- I think Red was "Chillin" & Green was looking or interested or something like that. Never got a freelancer from there but been there a handful of times. I had a wonderful freelancer in Bkk outside Nana Hotel on my 1st trip but choose ones from the bar every trip (17x) since then. As mentioned, you can have a great time with a freelancer & each to their own but for me, I look at it as a bit of an insurance policy. After all, the last thing I want is to have my holiday ruined by a horrible experience. Cheers
Just what is the real advantage? Do you get a refund? No. Never. Of course you do get the chance to whine away to some disinterested Mamasan or Bar manager.
I lived in the ChiangRai area an use to get a AKA hill tribes girl from the head master of her village to stay with me for 10,000 baht a month.I don't know how much he gave her or her family and don't care,I just know if was cheaper then getting one of tghose over priced GO-GO girls or even a Beer Bar girl,way cheaper,but I did buy her food and a few small trinkets to show her what a nice guy I was.
I must say Trev , it’s nice to see what walking street looks like during the day, in all my years coming here and living here , I have never seen it during the day 5555
What a city, everyone gets burnt at one point in there holiday, might be paying to much for a t shirt, or an extra drink being put in your bin, use your head get merry not drunk and you will have great time
great walkabout Trev, Great tips have had a few friends get caught up in situations they didn't want to be in. Not just in Thailand though great advice for everywhere.
Been in Thailand for 3 years and haven't visited Pattaya yet. Thanks for place recommendations. As I saw in one of the comments, I'd like to visit your lounge when I do go to Pattaya. Sound like you run a great place.
I Have used Thai Friendly on occasions to meet Freelance lady's over all Ok no issues but after contact and Line exchanged and before meet I ask for Video call first to see them in the flesh so to speak..as pointed out in Video 99% have air brushed their photo"s and when you think your getting a fit beauty arriving you may end up with a unexpected Surprise ! Been caught out once never again!..
Hey Paul … quick question.. are the Thai friendly freelancers ok in general and do you advise to video call them before a meet. Also how many asked for extra money for a taxi afterwards when you’ve finished the meet.?
@@markwalker4142 I have been with many freelancers that I met on Thai Friendly. They almost never ask for taxi money at least in Patong. If they do, you can either give it as a tip or politely say no.
Agree with everything you said about freelancers but saying that the best holiday I ever had in thailand was one when I met a freelancer at a nightclub in walking street " forget the name but you had an escalator to take you up stairs" just as you say be careful .
I always hook up with a massage girl from one of those Foot Massage places. Just get to know several and bring them fruit and drinks when you go in for a massage. Tip well and speak nice to them. They will meet you after work and or their day off. I had one gal (34 years old) average body and face, but a great hump!
ALL good info Trev. I NEVER bother with Freelancers. Remember there is no such thing as a girl arriving in Pattaya to make a quick buck. They're in Pattaya to make as much money as possible. That is achieved by getting a great contract with a Bar/GoGo etc. If they are Beautiful and walking the streets there is a negative reason why - They might be a thief, They might be sick... They might be blacklisted from all the Bars!
One thing I would add their mate with freelancers and had this issue myself, was price switching agree on one price after the deed is done your confronted with another. It’s gone really pear shaped for some. Also if we’re gonna to be frank the STD”s are NOT just a freelancer issue, I”l leave that one there. I”d also be very careful on the apps their are straight scammers posing as freelancers on there as well. Cheers
Good advice. Common sense. Don't go with a girl you don't know to a place she recommends or driving in her cousin taxi. If you have a safe in your hotel room and no valuables around, best option imho, stop at the reception and let them take a copy of her id. As for the ladyboys, it is hard for me to believe that anybody had been fooled, unless drunk or bringing her to the room without even a small conversation (and almost all of them are pretty straight forward about it). That's brings to the other advice, don't get drunk or high and be alone with strangers. That's make you a high value target and low hanging fruit. As for STDs, as other comments said; bar girl or freelancer the risk is there.
Sorry to call you out Trev but that was a completely negative video about freelancers. I've always used freelancers and had no problems that I couldn't sort out myself. There's ways of having freelancers without problems and that's what your video should be about. How to meet freelancers safely. Not only hundred problems you'll get with freelancers if you don't know what you are doing.
I think his intent was good. But you are correct by him not pointing out ways to be smart about it. For instance. He probably should have mentioned to get their driver's license information. If they won't show you their ID then don't take them. Some hotels will make a photo copy of the ID to keep for your protection. If they don't show it at least for the hotel then you are better off moving on to another friend. The girls are used to showing their ID at the hotel as a visitor to the room for whatever reason they are visiting. I had had many long term friends come to visit me in my hotel after years of me being out of the country. Showing your ID at the front desk is a kind of standard non-intrusive and private operating process that people are aware of. It is similar to hotel registration. The hotel needs to know who is staying in the room. The hotel never asks about the purpose of the visit nor do you get to see their information. But if something were to happen inappropriately then they have the information for the real police to sort it out properly. The girls usually don't mind the process. Again just move on. I do agree with you. I agree with you that freelancers can be fun if that is what you are interested in.😊
@valhallaholsopple Cheers my friend. I can tell by your response you have experience in these matters and so does Trev. He should warn people of course but also educate them on how to meet freelancers safely.
Another place I missed. 😱🙈 At the start your video Bali High Pier is opposite walking street. Damn! I ended up going back to my hotel when I was near end of walking street. On my next visit walk the whole of walking street and love museum. ❤
Good vid, but title should be DON'T go with freelancers..coz the cons you mentioned happens less than 1% of the time, you could have done a vid from the pro stance rather than negative., by informing how to protect one self from freelancers scams. The bars are too expensive and freelancers and thaifriendy app is safe enough if one is informed on how to do it safely..800-1500 bht 1-2hrs short time for freelancers, the barfine and drinks itself is more than that,,,on top of the 2-3k the bargirl is asking for, ...Need to stay in hotel that take visitors IDs...make sure the front desk ring up the guest to make sure everything is ok, before they get their ID back,..
When i was there i was disappointed with walking street, all there seemed to be was russian clubs, agogo bars and indian restaurants. If you are into those things you will have a great time but for me i prefer bars and gentlemen clubs which is why i prefer soi 6, treetown, soi pothole etc
Protect yourself is the best advice, remember do you trust her and do you trust the guy that she was with a few hours before ? there are so many mongers in the area, would you trust your health with them ?
last time i was in pattaya with a mate we both took a girl each from a bar and both girls talked non stop to each other on the way back to the villa we rented , once back they both tried the i dont do this i wont do that we only sleep etc , 1 mention of going back to the bar to talk to the mamasan and boy did that suddenly make a difference , had they been from beach road would have been a nightmare
The only way to score the best freelancer is to stay up almost all night long and go to alot of clubs… just go ahead and get a massage and call it a night. That said, I did well in I Bar, met some cool people
As to the "Russian" bars in Pattaya I think that they appeal more to the Chinese and Indian tourists who don't really have those flavors available to them in their home countries.
I have been to pattaya a few times, and I will be there in three weeks from here. I might have been to places you show in your videos, like in this one, but I cannot recall all the detail in a site. Well, I always stay in Jomtien, and Jomtien is my world when I am in Thailand.
Them English women got to be the worst in Europe? Mostly overweight, loud, aggressive, all about themselves. Look what the Royals marry! I would not touch any of their choices with pool stick!
Currently in Hua hin very humid. One minute you can be cool and then after ten minutes of walking you can be sweating like a pig. You just need to stop and chill and have a bottle of water.
While I don't have experience with female or katoy freelancers, I do with male. I was robbed once, many years ago. A learning experience, which at this point I am thankful for. I now have a rule that I pick the ST room, and they stay off their phone till they leave. Most will accept. If they don't, red flags. Stay safe friends!
Oh, 16:39 that was the walking street. I was always there. And at the end of that street facing you, is a hotel that serves buffet. I always get my dinner there. But that buffet is hard to find when you are already inside the building. That lone building visible from the end of that street. LOL. LOL.
I sleep with the really pretty 19 year olds off the apps, I always get there instagram (check for authenticity and family friend photos), and they have always looked hotter in person when they are standing infront of my hotel, never had a problem 3000 tbh though for the top 1%.
@@RandomMe2023 Thai Friendly and (Tinder) are the best here in Thailand. I found the other apps like Bumble, Hinge not used much. Thai Cupid is more older women looking for a partner, much less freelance. This is just my experience. I would like to hear what others think.
Thx for video and When you said when renting a room for a short time with a free lancer there could have a risk of some one dressing as or pretending to be a police officer knocking ilon the dor.. but you did explaing exacly what should we expect from that police officer .. I mean even if i asked for his ID I would not know the real ID from the fake so i woulld probably ask him if he has anything to discuss with me we do it atvl the police station .. isn't it. Appreciate more details about such incidents.
Couldn't agree more about the girls not giving a darn how you're dressed I'm a scruffy so-and-so but not a bad looking lad (or wasn't in the day) being a bit of a metalhead, my main attire is a T-shirt, clean shorts, trainers, I've never struggled for company.
All the girls I met where incredibly clean and shower before and after ofcause bag up the best and most beautiful I met was a freelancer from a night club 😊
@@AlwaysTravelxo Starting rates for long time is 1000B (of course it also depends on how attractive she is and how attractive you are, and what the competition looks like and how much they pay), start at 1000B and see what she counters with, and meet in the middle if you think she is worth it.
Most of the freelancers tried to "scam" me. There was varying levels. Last year I had a girl send me a Ultra sound picture and said 'It's Yours". That was not possible, I wore a condom and I did not "finish". So I knew it was not mine. She asked for B10,000 to "take care of it". I called her on Line and laughed in her face. She started crying. What a mess.
Trev, why doesn’t any of the vloggers ever feature the Elephant village or the floating Market in Pattaya!! I’ve been to both many years ago but it would be interesting to see these places again- I would bet that a lot of would be visitors even realise they exist
How are you big Trev, been watching your vids for years, im in pattaya for a few more days would be an honor to have a drink with you sir 🍻 keep up the good work
I think the women are impressed by a way a guy dresses and carry's himself,being quiet,respectful and smile,sure don't be a cheap charlie,I've been in Bars in Bangkok sitting with a lady ,maybe go back later in the evening and a girl will come up to me and tell me she had been watching me before when I was in there and wanted to meet me,whats that tell yo,was I played? maybe ,maybe not.
Defo played, they don't care, she would just say anything to strick up a conversation and get drinks etc.....if you think it matters ask her what brand of men's shoes she really likes lol
My experiences with twilight tour guides have always been agreeable. Occasionally a lack of chemistry and I have met a ting tong girl or two. I'm always mystified when I hear stories of outings gone wrong. Copious amounts of alcohol and drugs and a complete lack of common sense are surely at play.
If anyone has a situation where there’s a jock on the door and there’s a fellow in a police uniform asking for money , call the police on your mobile If he’s not legitimate he’ll piss off , and if he’s a cop for real , he’ll have some explaining to do
Let's be honest with people there are prostitutes all over the world and if you use their services you must be aware of the dangers involved from STDs to potential robbery and violence! No matter how much varnish people use to attempt to gloss over the sex trade it is what it is a potentially dangerous game to get involved in! My advice stay clear and you'll be a lot happier and healthier!
You are not wrong about the russians costing an arm and a leg. I met one on her day off from her bar, ended up getting drunk with her and had a great time, she didnt want any money. I found out the next day the bar fine at her bar was 30000 and thats bar fine then its 20000 on top off that for the girl herself, im guessing thats for overnight or 24 hours not quite sure. That was about 12 years ago as well.
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You “hobbled back down”??
Dude did you really allow yourself to get violated by a ladyboy🫵🤡
Make sure too to put all your valuables into the safe in your room while she is taking her shower. I always tell her to take the shower first. That way I can use the safe while she is in the shower. Put your watch, passport, and any money (beyond what you will give to her) in the safe. Then when you take your shower it’s all put away in the safe. She can’t get to it. In case.
Indeed
You're really smart, how many visits did it take for you to work that out
@@Buzzinpattayathis is a random question but do you know how much a bar girl in soi 6 makes from the bar in base salary?
Any half decent hotel will retain her id at reception and call your room when she leaves to check everything is okay, if it isn’t- they will retain her id
and call the police if you have problems. This is true I believe, so no worries there. Always book a decent hotel, it pays in the long run - for security if
nothing else🙏🇬🇧☺️
@@bluefox9019
??? Why do you care?
What business is it if yours?
There is only 1 reason any man would care about that?
It's because he's already hooked on her, and wants to gauge what she makes? In regards to how much he's going to be paying her going forward.
Someone is trying to wife, commit, bail down a working girl.
Thus trying to learn how much he needs to pay her per month?
To Stop selling 😺
STOP. Stop, Stop. It's a sucker- I wanna be her sponsor type of move
Don't do it
Why would any man want to commit, agree to support community 😺? Why?
You will Only slow it down, Never completely stop her.
And you will Not be able to control, monitor how she behaves, acts. You Can't.
And why would you want to?
The men with No leverage in relationships are the ones Afraid to
Leave.
Benjy's top top for free lancers is to lock ALL your things in the safe as soon as you get in the room. Wallet, phone, watch.... Everything ! Then just have a good time 😊
Thanks for the tips!
Where about is this place can’t find it on Google??
Walking street
Yep. While she uses all the hot water. You'll have plenty of time.😮
Why Boots? Headache pills, Imodium, condoms and clap antibiotics. 😊
trev , i only use freelance ladys , i very rarely pay barfines ,in 12 years of coming to pattaya i have never had a bad experiance , i pick them up around treetown ,in imsomnia or beach road and always take them back to my room, no problems , i now have around 7 freelance ladies who i call on line and then take them out for the night , yes i always bag up and once in my room and put my wallet in the safe .....
Cheers mate but am guessing you're experienced mate so know the score
Getting a working girl in Thailand is very similar to buying a car! The ago go is the dealership where you get the pretty newer makes and models with a mama San warranty. The beer bars are like used car dealers where you can still get a good car just not as new and pretty and still with a mama San warranty. The car listings in papers and magazines is like ThaiFriendly. Sometimes the photos aren’t like what’s advertised so you need a bit of luck to score . And buying a car off the street from a private person is the same like picking up a girl off the streets! No warranty, no promises and completely your own risk! 🤣
I guess that is one way of describing it
You have to be sensible. Two mates of mine got a bit tipsy as they walked near the beach. A pretty girl called one of them over and he stupidly followed her. When the other one went back to look to see where his mate had gone he found him semi-conscious on the sand after being bashed on the head by a man who stole his camera and valuables. They reported it to the Tourist Police but they couldn’t do much about it apart from advising them to take more care in future!
Wow thanks for sharing
had about 20/30 freelancers last visit. Never any problems easy to order one to your room .very convenient. found them all to be very honest. maybe just lucky will try again when i get back
Cheers mate
How do you order them?
thai friendly @@jgw9990
Probably Thai Friendly
G'day mate, how did you order one to your room? Thanks
I've been back in Australia for about 10 days now, and your video just made me miss Pattaya all the more 😥😥But I can assure you that Beach Rd still has plenty of freelancers - I didn't see the police hassle any of them during my 2 months in Pattaya.
Police do their regular round up and fines for the news lol
I hired a beach rd girl a few years ago and she was stunning. I took her back to my hotel, which meant that she had to produce her id at reception. Of course I made sure there were no valuables or cash kicking around. All ok, no problems and I definitely bagged up!
Thanks for sharing!
Did you make sure she did not have a little elephant? 😅 *(joke)*
Wouldn’t have bothered me tbh. I’m bi anyway @@googleuser2609
Trev reliving happy memories about the time he met the ladies with special additional feature lol. The guy with glasses the black shirt and the strange hand movements looks like the lead singer from madness lol its must be love lol great video mate!
Hahaha brilliant mate thank you
I stay at 4 or 5 Star hotels in Pattaya and I bring the girls all back to my hotel room! Nothing every has gone wrong! All the hotels take the girls ID and then return their id's after the ladies leave the hotel. If you don't accompany the ladies when they leave, the staff always calls the hotel room to make sure your ok! You gentlemen understand correct??
good mate
they hotels took a 1000 blat to get girl in ripped off
@@paulmcfarlane3250 Hi bud. The hotels I stayed at never changed anything extra for guests to my room. Before booking your hotel you should inquire if guests are allowed for free or if you need to pay extra.
it was 2 hotels on beach road that was years ago l did say to hotels l not happy with hotel about this hotel told me l had to check in with girl
Yall need to get an airbnb and not a nosey hotel
From the other perspective, be nice to the girls. Just because they're from another country and do the job they do does not mean you can treat them poorly. I have heard first hand stories of men being very mean to freelancers. We are all human, be respectful.
Well said
A few years back, I picked up a freelancer from Rolling Live 3 on Soi 8. She was an older lady but was a great dancer. After Rolling Live, she took me karaoke singing before heading back to the hotel. She was a terrific sh@g and I had a great night with her.
nice one
Trev
I still got to tell you abt my first time in Thailand back in 2015 where I picked up a Freelancer in Phuket
It’s a story and a half
I’ll tell you and others over some beers when I finally can get over 😄
Haha sounds intriguing
Great advice Trev, I wish I knew all the things you talked about before my first trip,I used my own judgement and to be honest not sure if was lucky or good judge looking back on 10 years of coming to pattaya i was lucky, go go clubs to bear bars to freelance ladies I didn’t get to any trouble
All good mate nice one
Yes Trevor's a bar owner and has to handle the girls...many will say there is a conflict of interest but be fair, he promotes many bars and businesses and covers many topics of interest to those going to Pattaya. His info is for those who already decided to go to Pattaya, it is not aimed to convince a newby to go. He offers his knowledge, and he does have the experience so it is well worth listening to.....now what you do after listening is up to you. Yes he owns a bar but its obvious he want his customers safe, infact he wants everyone who goes to Pattaya to be safe.
Most freelancers work off line groups close to home now, especially because its so quiet the Laos girls that work in the Nth East have gone home leaving local freelancers the local work which is charged by the hr.
Thanks mate and yes I promote many places
Had a good one in Jomtien few months back, half 2 in the morning and walking along the front totally peed up, heard someone calling out, so back to my room, she gave me a full body massage in the morning then did the business 1000 baht, was all good 👍🏻
Cool
I appreciate you taking the time to make these videos
Thanks mate
Really i have enjoyed this video so much . Is informative and joyful. Thanks
Glad you enjoyed it!
Trev, I know it's common in Go-Go bars for the girls to be tested but haven't heard of bars doing it. Regardless, wouldn't trust the paper it's written on AND she could've been with anyone between the last test and meeting you.
Yeah that's a fair shout about who she has been with in-between tests
I have been Pattaya 11 times, met many freelancers and never any problems, But 3 times I have had big problems with drunk bar girls after bar fining them, And the 'point of contact' bars all backed their girls and told me where to go 😅 and one of my mates got HIV from a bar girl in soi 8 = so they don't all check
I didn't say they all check I said many do. As for backing the girl well there is always too sides to the story so I would have listened to both
if some bars healthy check they girls enery month u can still get hiv if is very badluck but is not easy tell where get if have to wait 3 months and after can be see in your blood u get or not.(use protection,it is own fault if get it and not used
he was with the same girl for the whole holiday lol
@@mikke35taapero87
she got drunk and disappeared in a club, I wanted my bar fine back, but she told her mamasan she went my hotel, so I asked which hotel, she didnt know, but bar still backed her and asked me to leave, was not so much the 500 barfine as all the drinks I brought too lol,@@Buzzinpattaya
@@blindfury7160 That sucks dude, really does. That would discourage me from going that angle. Glad to hear you have been 11 times and no problems with FL. Not sure the route I will take ...
It's strange - I have no desire to go to Pattaya, but find the content really interesting. Cheers
Thanks mate and maybe one day you will visit
I speak simp so i can translate. What he means is "I am terrified of the missus and am scared she will read my comment. I dream of going to Pattaya and will do if I ever win the lottery and get away from this white whale."
@@corbintravis7512 Speak for yourself. Some people simply do not find paying for sex appealing, nor spending their holiday time at tourist destinations like Pattaya.
Some great advice there Trev. Personally never do social media as 'the hunt' is half the fun for me. Also the bragging by some of the term 'bareback' is sheer madness. Bar girl or freelancer the risk doesn't go away... ALWAYS use a condom every time.
Cheers mate
Loved the Guy walking down in the black shirt and pants Hell looked like he has been out for nights zero sleep.
Haha true
I've had more problems over the years with the girls in gogo bars than I've ever had Freelancers in fact just the other night. I went to the Las Vegas gogo bar in LK metro where I meet a beautiful girl we agreed a price for long time but when I went back to my condo she demanded payment up front, which made me suspicious. After further conversation it turned out she was only going do short time with me.
So I got ripped off for the 1200b. Bar fine plus the drinks.
So I'll never be visiting Las Vegas gogo bar again😂
Yep that's not good
It’s very unlikely you get s goo go girl from
Anywhere will
Do
Long time with you it’s seems to
Have gone now after covid . Short time only makes them far more money . Jc
So what clubs in Pattaya are like X zone. What this sapphire club any good
@johnwhite4638 there's normally not a problem with getting a girl to do long time but this girl had agreed long time with me and then deliberately deceive me.
I Suppose most men would just pay up so she's able to get away with it a lot of the time.
That's a common scam lady converting longtime into shortime.
Good luck to you Trevor,your a very hard working man
I try mate cheers
Great Trev Showing Respect for The Ladies and Not Taking Film Shots When They Do Not Wish it.. Cheers
Welcome mate
yea unlike some low lives on youtube going up and down soi 6 videoing all the bar girls every day 😒 no respect at all its pathetic i hope one day something happens to them and they regret every doing any of of it
I have always treated girls like a business transaction, be clear what you want up front and agree on a price and time , it’s not expected that you pay for a bolt ride for her to get back but I always offer and call the bolt myself and pay the driver myself , you then have proof she left you in one piece, cover your arse every chance you get.
Gotcha mate
I appreciate how you run your channel. Respect for people's privacy does not seem to be a consideration for many other channels with similar content. Thank you.
Cheers mate
lol remember Xzone - WOW! Windmill and the red and green bar mats in the Garden and some great nights up and down stairs in Insomnia. There used to be a cool club down some stairs on the right just as you enter Walking Street, a bar that played Isan music. good times. would love to return again one day.
good content BTW matey keep up the good work.
X zone was brilliant
A buddy of mine visited Thailand several times while enlisted, so he's taking me there for my birthday next year. Looking forward it!
Sounds great!
The Beer garden- I think Red was "Chillin" & Green was looking or interested or something like that.
Never got a freelancer from there but been there a handful of times.
I had a wonderful freelancer in Bkk outside Nana Hotel on my 1st trip but choose ones from the bar every trip (17x) since then.
As mentioned, you can have a great time with a freelancer & each to their own but for me, I look at it as a bit of an insurance policy.
After all, the last thing I want is to have my holiday ruined by a horrible experience.
Cheers
Thanks mate
Just what is the real advantage? Do you get a refund? No. Never. Of course you do get the chance to whine away to some disinterested Mamasan or Bar manager.
Thats what i really appreciate with you Trev .. you dont judge anyone .. coming in april mate straight to the buzzing lounge 😂
Nice one mate thank you and yeah I am just me mate
Ha ha! "Coat hanger in his shirt" 😂😂😂
Haha
Good little walk around and info as always 😊
cheers mate
Best piece of advice with Freelancers is Take a Photo of their ID especially if your staying in a Airbnb or a Condo
Great shout
... and send the photo to a friend of you.
Once again some great information needed thank you. Now I just have to get my tail out there
hope you get out soon mate
8:48 "Maybe he's got a coat hanger under his shirt still."😂
It looked like he did!
Hilarious!
Hahaha yeah was a strange one
I’ll do dumb things in the heat of the moment, like not bagging up, but the point of contact with the bar is probably the best insurance you can have.
We all do mate you're not alone.....
I lived in the ChiangRai area an use to get a AKA hill tribes girl from the head master of her village to stay with me for 10,000 baht a month.I don't know how much he gave her or her family and don't care,I just know if was cheaper then getting one of tghose over priced GO-GO girls or even a Beer Bar girl,way cheaper,but I did buy her food and a few small trinkets to show her what a nice guy I was.
Thanks for sharing
Walking street has certainly changed...thanks for your efforts 🤠😁❤
You’re welcome 😊
Thx and nice to see, that local Thai greet you
Thank you too
I must say Trev , it’s nice to see what walking street looks like during the day, in all my years coming here and living here , I have never seen it during the day 5555
555
What a city, everyone gets burnt at one point in there holiday, might be paying to much for a t shirt, or an extra drink being put in your bin, use your head get merry not drunk and you will have great time
Indeed mate
Well said Mike
great walkabout Trev, Great tips have had a few friends get caught up in situations they didn't want to be in. Not just in Thailand though great advice for everywhere.
cheers mate and hope ya mates got out in one piece
I'm an Expat in Medellin. You gotta come to medellin its freelancer galore everywhere
Haha sounds fun
What are the best neighborhoods to find them?
is that Philippines?
@@johnnyw230 no it’s colombia 🇨🇴
@@rhettnofret parque lleras
Been in Thailand for 3 years and haven't visited Pattaya yet. Thanks for place recommendations. As I saw in one of the comments, I'd like to visit your lounge when I do go to Pattaya. Sound like you run a great place.
Please do!
I Have used Thai Friendly on occasions to meet Freelance lady's over all Ok no issues but after contact and Line exchanged and before meet I ask for Video call first to see them in the flesh so to speak..as pointed out in Video 99% have air brushed their photo"s and when you think your getting a fit beauty arriving you may end up with a unexpected Surprise ! Been caught out once never again!..
Cheers
Hey Paul … quick question.. are the Thai friendly freelancers ok in general and do you advise to video call them before a meet. Also how many asked for extra money for a taxi afterwards when you’ve finished the meet.?
Very true , the TF profiles are photo shopped to the point of being unreognizable when they turn up.
@@markwalker4142 I have been with many freelancers that I met on Thai Friendly. They almost never ask for taxi money at least in Patong. If they do, you can either give it as a tip or politely say no.
Agree with everything you said about freelancers but saying that the best holiday I ever had in thailand was one when I met a freelancer at a nightclub in walking street " forget the name but you had an escalator to take you up stairs" just as you say be careful .
Fair one mate
Sounds like The Marine Bar. It was there on my 1st trip in 89 and for many years later. Sadly it has gone now.
I always hook up with a massage girl from one of those Foot Massage places. Just get to know several and bring them fruit and drinks when you go in for a massage. Tip well and speak nice to them. They will meet you after work and or their day off. I had one gal (34 years old) average body and face, but a great hump!
Nice one
Brilliant. My plan A as well. Throw in nice shopping malls with attractive help in the stores. 😊
ALL good info Trev. I NEVER bother with Freelancers. Remember there is no such thing as a girl arriving in Pattaya to make a quick buck. They're in Pattaya to make as much money as possible. That is achieved by getting a great contract with a Bar/GoGo etc. If they are Beautiful and walking the streets there is a negative reason why - They might be a thief, They might be sick... They might be blacklisted from all the Bars!
Cheers mate and yeah if they have been released from an Agogo there is a good reason why
met amazing freelancers on beach road now can call friends
Nice one
The coat hanger joke! 🤣
Lol
One thing I would add their mate with freelancers and had this issue myself, was price switching agree on one price after the deed is done your confronted with another. It’s gone really pear shaped for some. Also if we’re gonna to be frank the STD”s are NOT just a freelancer issue, I”l leave that one there. I”d also be very careful on the apps their are straight scammers posing as freelancers on there as well. Cheers
yeah they can do that and as ya said its not on
@fastpistonx Its a good idea and might work. But this is Thailand, and the Frang is always wrong, even when he’s right, when it comes to money.
thanks Trev, very wise advice
Very welcome
Amazing information, good video 👍👍🎉🎉🍾🍾 Thank you
Thank you
Good advice. Common sense. Don't go with a girl you don't know to a place she recommends or driving in her cousin taxi. If you have a safe in your hotel room and no valuables around, best option imho, stop at the reception and let them take a copy of her id. As for the ladyboys, it is hard for me to believe that anybody had been fooled, unless drunk or bringing her to the room without even a small conversation (and almost all of them are pretty straight forward about it). That's brings to the other advice, don't get drunk or high and be alone with strangers. That's make you a high value target and low hanging fruit. As for STDs, as other comments said; bar girl or freelancer the risk is there.
Cheers mate
Sorry to call you out Trev but that was a completely negative video about freelancers.
I've always used freelancers and had no problems that I couldn't sort out myself.
There's ways of having freelancers without problems and that's what your video should be about.
How to meet freelancers safely. Not only hundred problems you'll get with freelancers if you don't know what you are doing.
But that's the whole point about IF you don't know what you're doing. You do so great, but not everyone is experienced or street savvy
@@Buzzinpattaya so educate them with your wisdom Trev
I think his intent was good. But you are correct by him not pointing out ways to be smart about it. For instance. He probably should have mentioned to get their driver's license information. If they won't show you their ID then don't take them. Some hotels will make a photo copy of the ID to keep for your protection. If they don't show it at least for the hotel then you are better off moving on to another friend. The girls are used to showing their ID at the hotel as a visitor to the room for whatever reason they are visiting. I had had many long term friends come to visit me in my hotel after years of me being out of the country. Showing your ID at the front desk is a kind of standard non-intrusive and private operating process that people are aware of. It is similar to hotel registration. The hotel needs to know who is staying in the room. The hotel never asks about the purpose of the visit nor do you get to see their information. But if something were to happen inappropriately then they have the information for the real police to sort it out properly. The girls usually don't mind the process. Again just move on. I do agree with you. I agree with you that freelancers can be fun if that is what you are interested in.😊
@valhallaholsopple Cheers my friend.
I can tell by your response you have experience in these matters and so does Trev.
He should warn people of course but also educate them on how to meet freelancers safely.
Another place I missed. 😱🙈 At the start your video Bali High Pier is opposite walking street. Damn! I ended up going back to my hotel when I was near end of walking street. On my next visit walk the whole of walking street and love museum. ❤
Haha next time mate
I never had issues with freelancers picked all of em from the clubs
Gotcha
Hello from Michigan, Keep the Great content coming.
Hi mate and thank you
Good vid, but title should be DON'T go with freelancers..coz the cons you mentioned happens less than 1% of the time, you could have done a vid from the pro stance rather than negative., by informing how to protect one self from freelancers scams. The bars are too expensive and freelancers and thaifriendy app is safe enough if one is informed on how to do it safely..800-1500 bht 1-2hrs short time for freelancers, the barfine and drinks itself is more than that,,,on top of the 2-3k the bargirl is asking for, ...Need to stay in hotel that take visitors IDs...make sure the front desk ring up the guest to make sure everything is ok, before they get their ID back,..
Totally agree mate. Gentlemen’s Clubs and Agogos are too expensive. I’ve never had a problem with freelancers
It's only expensive if you can't afford it.
When i was there i was disappointed with walking street, all there seemed to be was russian clubs, agogo bars and indian restaurants. If you are into those things you will have a great time but for me i prefer bars and gentlemen clubs which is why i prefer soi 6, treetown, soi pothole etc
A lot has changed yes
Soi 6 is a hole
Protect yourself is the best advice, remember do you trust her and do you trust the guy that she was with a few hours before ? there are so many mongers in the area, would you trust your health with them ?
Gotcha mate
last time i was in pattaya with a mate we both took a girl each from a bar and both girls talked non stop to each other on the way back to the villa we rented , once back they both tried the i dont do this i wont do that we only sleep etc , 1 mention of going back to the bar to talk to the mamasan and boy did that suddenly make a difference , had they been from beach road would have been a nightmare
Wow mate, sadly it happens
The only way to score the best freelancer is to stay up almost all night long and go to alot of clubs… just go ahead and get a massage and call it a night. That said, I did well in I Bar, met some cool people
nice one
Love the walkarounds and informative commentary!
Thank you very much
As to the "Russian" bars in Pattaya I think that they appeal more to the Chinese and Indian tourists who don't really have those flavors available to them in their home countries.
Gotcha
Fixed bayonets a few times with freelancers , but only during daylight hours.
Gotcha mate
G'day from warrnambool Australia 🇦🇺
Morning mate
I have been to pattaya a few times, and I will be there in three weeks from here. I might have been to places you show in your videos, like in this one, but I cannot recall all the detail in a site. Well, I always stay in Jomtien, and Jomtien is my world when I am in Thailand.
Have a great time
Yet most marry a woman in uk who takes wages house cars kids lol , i wouldnt worry just enjoy and be sensible like anywhere , 😊
Absolutely
Them English women got to be the worst in Europe? Mostly overweight, loud, aggressive, all about themselves. Look what the Royals marry! I would not touch any of their choices with pool stick!
Currently in Hua hin very humid. One minute you can be cool and then after ten minutes of walking you can be sweating like a pig. You just need to stop and chill and have a bottle of water.
Love Hua Hin
I can not wait to do my 1st visit in January.
Nice one
While I don't have experience with female or katoy freelancers, I do with male. I was robbed once, many years ago. A learning experience, which at this point I am thankful for.
I now have a rule that I pick the ST room, and they stay off their phone till they leave. Most will accept. If they don't, red flags.
Stay safe friends!
What were you doing with male freelancers?
Sorry you got caught nate
Very glad you pointed out that not every woman you see is a prostitute.
Welcome
Oh, 16:39 that was the walking street. I was always there. And at the end of that street facing you, is a hotel that serves buffet. I always get my dinner there. But that buffet is hard to find when you are already inside the building. That lone building visible from the end of that street. LOL. LOL.
Cheers mate
I sleep with the really pretty 19 year olds off the apps, I always get there instagram (check for authenticity and family friend photos), and they have always looked hotter in person when they are standing infront of my hotel, never had a problem 3000 tbh though for the top 1%.
okay
Which app are we talking about brother, Thai Friendly?
@@RandomMe2023 Thai Friendly and (Tinder) are the best here in Thailand. I found the other apps like Bumble, Hinge not used much. Thai Cupid is more older women looking for a partner, much less freelance. This is just my experience. I would like to hear what others think.
Great video, great advice! Thank you!
cheers mate
Thx for video and When you said when renting a room for a short time with a free lancer there could have a risk of some one dressing as or pretending to be a police officer knocking ilon the dor.. but you did explaing exacly what should we expect from that police officer .. I mean even if i asked for his ID I would not know the real ID from the fake so i woulld probably ask him if he has anything to discuss with me we do it atvl the police station .. isn't it. Appreciate more details about such incidents.
Gotcha mate and see what I can do
Freelancers GFE experience - only way to fly - 3 day rule applies TIM, PERTH AUSTRALIA
Cool
Great video injoy watching it..😁👍📹
Glad you enjoyed it
Couldn't agree more about the girls not giving a darn how you're dressed I'm a scruffy so-and-so but not a bad looking lad (or wasn't in the day) being a bit of a metalhead, my main attire is a T-shirt, clean shorts, trainers, I've never struggled for company.
Spot on mate
Awesome channel bro. Keep up the good work.
Thanks mate much appreciated
All the girls I met where incredibly clean and shower before and after ofcause bag up the best and most beautiful I met was a freelancer from a night club 😊
Thanks for sharing!!
Do you remember how much baht you paid to have the freelances accompany you and for how long? Thanks
depends on you and how the girl feels about you treat her well@@AlwaysTravelxo
@@AlwaysTravelxo Starting rates for long time is 1000B (of course it also depends on how attractive she is and how attractive you are, and what the competition looks like and how much they pay), start at 1000B and see what she counters with, and meet in the middle if you think she is worth it.
X-Zone was one of my favs as well. Great place!
So good
Most of the freelancers tried to "scam" me. There was varying levels. Last year I had a girl send me a Ultra sound picture and said 'It's Yours". That was not possible, I wore a condom and I did not "finish". So I knew it was not mine. She asked for B10,000 to "take care of it". I called her on Line and laughed in her face. She started crying. What a mess.
Sorry to hear of your bad experience mate.....
Looking forward to the tik tok and instagram video's Trev, good idea
Cheers mate am starting posting now
Trev, why doesn’t any of the vloggers ever feature the Elephant village or the floating Market in Pattaya!! I’ve been to both many years ago
but it would be interesting to see these places again- I would bet that a lot of would be visitors even realise they exist
Floating market is on my to-do list
How are you big Trev, been watching your vids for years, im in pattaya for a few more days would be an honor to have a drink with you sir 🍻
keep up the good work
Hi mate, pop to Buzzin lounge in Soi Chiyapoon mate be there today from 4.30pm for a while
I think the women are impressed by a way a guy dresses and carry's himself,being quiet,respectful and smile,sure don't be a cheap charlie,I've been in Bars in Bangkok sitting with a lady ,maybe go back later in the evening and a girl will come up to me and tell me she had been watching me before when I was in there and wanted to meet me,whats that tell yo,was I played? maybe ,maybe not.
lol
Defo played, they don't care, she would just say anything to strick up a conversation and get drinks etc.....if you think it matters ask her what brand of men's shoes she really likes lol
Jesus you're naïve
👍🏼🍻🇦🇺 G'day from W.A
Morning!
My experiences with twilight tour guides have always been agreeable. Occasionally a lack of chemistry and I have met a ting tong girl or two. I'm always mystified when I hear stories of outings gone wrong. Copious amounts of alcohol and drugs and a complete lack of common sense are surely at play.
Thanks for sharing your experience with us mate
Lol the beer garden " looking" " just chilling" oh I remember that
Haha
If anyone has a situation where there’s a jock on the door and there’s a fellow in a police uniform asking for money , call the police on your mobile
If he’s not legitimate he’ll piss off , and if he’s a cop for real , he’ll have some explaining to do
Indeed
Im not a uk fuck, i speak american. Whats a jock on the door and whats he asking money for?
@@Noct6x Police
Food for thought these freelancers on Beach rd & beyond have played test matches with cricket teams 😎
Lol how that...... Literally haha
Don't ypu think all bar girls have had more pricks than a second hand dartboard ffs
Let's be honest with people there are prostitutes all over the world and if you use their services you must be aware of the dangers involved from STDs to potential robbery and violence! No matter how much varnish people use to attempt to gloss over the sex trade it is what it is a potentially dangerous game to get involved in! My advice stay clear and you'll be a lot happier and healthier!
indeed mate
It is just like the traffic 🚦 light (Time 18:00). Green is a Go (Looking). Red is a No Go (Chillin).
Cheers
Hi Trev, il be there in few weeks time. Where is your bar based mate? After 3 years of listening to videos would be great to buy you a beer mate!
Homemade, we are in Soi Chiyapoon and if ya Google Buzzin Lounge Bar we show up.mate
You are not wrong about the russians costing an arm and a leg. I met one on her day off from her bar, ended up getting drunk with her and had a great time, she didnt want any money. I found out the next day the bar fine at her bar was 30000 and thats bar fine then its 20000 on top off that for the girl herself, im guessing thats for overnight or 24 hours not quite sure. That was about 12 years ago as well.
Wow
Can’t get much business.