Is Oblivion Worth Playing in 2024?

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  • Опубліковано 8 чер 2024
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    Main Quest 22:19
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  • @Louis-20
    @Louis-20 3 місяці тому +391

    Not sure if its purely nostalgia, or the random encounters of pure chaos, but Oblivion is my favorite elder scrolls game.
    The feel of it just speaks to me.

    • @darko1295
      @darko1295 3 місяці тому +36

      Could be the sheer atmosphere. It's so whimsical and tonally all-over-the-place (shifting between some really grim and violent stuff to the goofiest fantasy concepts seemingly at random) that it kind of becomes it's own thing that's unique to most other fantasy. It feels like a parody of a fantasy setting, but without the actual parody, because no matter how silly it gets, in-universe everything takes itself seriously and at face value. Plus it was made when bethesda still bothered to put effort into quest design.

    • @Louis-20
      @Louis-20 3 місяці тому +12

      @@darko1295 I'd say thats a very accurate description, yes.
      And as you said, it feels more like Bethesda still cared.
      I think creativity, writing and taking risks took more of a backseat in recent titles. Played it a bit too safe in my opinion.

    • @gxrssll
      @gxrssll 2 місяці тому +5

      its everything a game should be, fun

    • @kaylee42900
      @kaylee42900 2 місяці тому +13

      It's notable because Oblivion and Fallout 3 are the last time that Bethesda got really creative with quests. Fallout 4 and Skyrim are just quite a bit blander and more straightforward.

    • @gxrssll
      @gxrssll 2 місяці тому

      oh god 100%! loved Skyrim and Fallout 4 though, but the difference is night and day when it comes to creative effort. I loved Fallout 3 and then loved New Vegas even more, which is crazy considering Obsidian wasnt even a Bethesda team but they poured so much creativity into the game and still made it better than Fallout 4, which says so much about Bethesdas effort haha@@kaylee42900

  • @samefeeling7122
    @samefeeling7122 4 місяці тому +319

    if u hold block and press Interact you yield and stop people from attacking you.

    • @lazybone135
      @lazybone135 3 місяці тому +25

      only if they like you

    • @MiddayEnglishman
      @MiddayEnglishman 3 місяці тому +16

      Just putting your weapon away works on guards.

    • @kupokinzyt
      @kupokinzyt 3 місяці тому

      Only in Skyrim, Oblivion requires you to do what the OP said and actually press the yield button. I like this more as in Skyrim, guards would constantly just walk away in mid battle until they played the "fool me thrice" game and eventually learned after the 16th swing I wasn't as sorry as my shield made me out to be. @@MiddayEnglishman

    • @kiaaan711
      @kiaaan711 3 місяці тому +7

      glad this is the top comment

    • @rdrrr
      @rdrrr 3 місяці тому +7

      @ne135 Calm 'em and Charm 'em. Some hostile NPCs even have unique dialogue.

  • @GC_Rallo
    @GC_Rallo 3 місяці тому +58

    Best way to play the conversation mini-game is to mouse over each option quickly and observe the NPC's facial expression as you mouse over. Each NPC has 1 love, 1 like, 1 dislike, 1 hate. If you prioritize ensuring that you get the smallest piece on the dislike/hate each round, you will almost always end up raising reputation.

  • @TheAtomicRedhead
    @TheAtomicRedhead 3 місяці тому +153

    When people tell me that they are starting Oblivion for the first time I literally cannot describe the envy that I feel. To play this game again for the first time would be something. It’s been a huge part of my life since I was in high school.

    • @MiddayEnglishman
      @MiddayEnglishman 3 місяці тому +1

      There was once upon a time when I owned an xbox 360.. back in boarding school days. PC Gamer the last 15 years lol. (this game led me to it actually, I have an escape rooms riddle, you're locked in an Inn room, no magic, no picklocks, xbox so no console commands. what do you do?)

    • @Emberqladze
      @Emberqladze 3 місяці тому +7

      I'm 22 years old and for the first time I'm thinking about downloading Oblivion and I'm only watching this video to see if it's worth it😂

    • @MiddayEnglishman
      @MiddayEnglishman 3 місяці тому +13

      Yeah it's totally worth it, better than Skyrim I think. @@Emberqladze

    • @greenscheme2040
      @greenscheme2040 3 місяці тому +4

      @@EmberqladzeBest game ever made. The NPCs actually have fleshed out personalities unlike the boring ones in Skyrim. There is a lot of humor amongst the drama which is a God send compared to other games that take themselves oh so seriously. And the quests are the best in any game. Especially the Thieves Guild and the Dark Brotherhood. Also side quests with Glathir, Mazoga and Dar-Ma etc. And the graphics are beautiful especially for the beast folks. The ones in Skyrim ar hideous by comparison. And where else can you have both Patrick Stewart and Sean Bean voice characters for you.

    • @jankomorderca
      @jankomorderca 3 місяці тому +2

      I played it for the first time last year and I actually hated it very repetitive oblivion gates and the same 5-10 annoying enemies all game. quests are mostly stupid fetch quest and you also get vampirism that basically kills you immediately. to cure vampirism you must complete a very elaborated long and boring quest

  • @tylertheguy3160
    @tylertheguy3160 3 місяці тому +63

    Fun fact: while Martin Septim was always intended to be played by Sean Bean, all his dialogue was recorded by Wes Johnson (the voice actor for almost all other male imperials in the game) in the event that Sean Bean wouldn't be available. Since Bethesda got Bean almost all of Johnson's performance was lost, but a little bit of it still survives and can be found on UA-cam.

    • @Haggysack2k8
      @Haggysack2k8 3 місяці тому +15

      I am so glad, we got the living spoiler voicing Martin, rather than Wes 'let me do all the voices' Johnson.
      ...Not gonna lie, i love Wes Johnson, but Bethesda really went utterly fucking dogshit lazy, because you can hear his voice everywhere in Oblivion.

    • @tylertheguy3160
      @tylertheguy3160 3 місяці тому +18

      @@Haggysack2k8 Oblivion drinking game: take a shot every time you hear Wes Johnson.
      Don't actually do that, you'll die.

    • @extrage3061
      @extrage3061 3 місяці тому +2

      @@Haggysack2k8 Have you ever heard about money?

    • @Haggysack2k8
      @Haggysack2k8 3 місяці тому +3

      @@extrage3061 Have you ever heard about bread?
      I don't want to sound rude, but what kind of a dumb question is yours? No, i am Patrick Star, i live under a fucking rock and never heard about money.
      If you're implying that Bethesda is always choosing 1 voice actor for 90% of their NPCs because of cost reduction reasons, then this is no less stupid than without this argument, because at some point people will get bored and start to loose interest in their games, not just only because of the voice actor issue, but several other issues besides that on top of it.
      Which means they're still shooting their own foot in the long run, doesn't matter if it hurts now, tomorrow or in a year, because it will hurt them at some point.
      And this is the major problem with them right now, they seem to not care about the long run, only short term, which can be explained with greed.
      So yeah, there's your essay to read and enjoy as an answer to your stupid question.

    • @cherrycordiaI
      @cherrycordiaI 3 місяці тому +1

      @@Haggysack2k8 Wes is capital-a Amazing, but only like two of his performances stood out among the generic Imperial male voice. Lucien Lachance and Sheogorath.

  • @unoriginalperson72
    @unoriginalperson72 3 місяці тому +133

    To me oblivion isn't just the funny face npc conversation game, thats surface level stuff, the quests and locations are really the icing on the cake.

  • @Caesar-0911
    @Caesar-0911 3 місяці тому +143

    BY AZURA! BY AZURA! BY AZURA! IT'S YOU, THE GRAND CHAMPION, STANDING HERE NEXT TO ME!

  • @ehart303
    @ehart303 4 місяці тому +54

    Really digging you taking a look at older games. Also really like you taking the time to give tips and tricks to work around some of the antiquated aspects of all these games. I'm sure it definitely helps new players not get so frustrated at parts of these older games so they can focus on the better parts. I hope you blow up man! Keep up all the hard work and I'm sure it'll pay off.

  • @jordoncihanek8849
    @jordoncihanek8849 4 місяці тому +243

    Came for the silly oblivion face in the thumbnail. Stayed for the “yep, they serve food there”
    Edit: Okay this is just a really good video, nothing new from the legendary industry titan Owen Kung.

    • @IrateGamingZealot
      @IrateGamingZealot 3 місяці тому +5

      "Yep they serve food there" might even have landed if the actors were given any context at all for their lines.

    • @rdrrr
      @rdrrr 3 місяці тому

      @amingZealot I hear the VAs were given their lines in _alphabetical order_ - how deranged is that? It's frankly remarkable that Oblivion's voicework is as solid as it is considering the recording process.

  • @bobcat24
    @bobcat24 3 місяці тому +138

    I’m find it abysmal that Skyrim got released on the switch, but not Oblivion. I’d love to sit in the backseat of the family van punching the crap out of enemies on my switch.

    • @AliceValentine
      @AliceValentine 2 місяці тому +1

      I swear, I hate that so much

    • @pacho6821
      @pacho6821 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@AliceValentine The Switch or the fact they didn't port Oblivion?

    • @AliceValentine
      @AliceValentine 2 місяці тому +9

      @@pacho6821 That they didn't port Oblivion, I have tons of games on the Switch I could play on PC but would rather sit on the couch and enjoy it on a big screen

    • @Oxygen97
      @Oxygen97 27 днів тому +1

      Just get a Steam Deck, problem solved.

    • @supermaster1325
      @supermaster1325 26 днів тому +1

      Not only Oblivion, but FO3 and FNV, ik the games arent in good shape but it would be so good to play these games on the go (only reason i have switch really lol), skyrim becomes boring without mods after sometime

  • @dmwelchdw
    @dmwelchdw 3 місяці тому +14

    Option 5 for leveling: partial efficient leveling. Just get your endurance as high as possible as quickly as possible and then play the game normally.

    • @greenscheme2040
      @greenscheme2040 3 місяці тому +2

      Yeah I mentioned that just now too. Endurance at 5 points a level and the game becomes so so easy.

  • @jmm1233
    @jmm1233 3 місяці тому +16

    every year there is always video asking this question , and every year the answer is "cheese , for everyone "

  • @enricohepner
    @enricohepner 3 місяці тому +21

    9:15 Fun fact: Cyrodiil wasn't retconned from being a jungle to a forest. It was originally retconned from being a forest to being a jungle. THEN, it was re-retconned.

  • @ArvelDreth
    @ArvelDreth 3 місяці тому +32

    "I have no idea how this wheel is supposed to properly work"
    The more full the wedge/slice is, the more dramatic the attitude shift will be. So you want to try and choose the fuller wedges on the choices where the NPC is smiling and vice versa on the choices where they're frowning.
    Tbh I've never understood the confusion around this system. I was maybe 10 when I first played and it seemed so intuitive to me at the time.
    Btw, getting staggered in a chain like you're saying does not happen when you have 60+ agility and are actually using a shield. Your problem is that you were blocking without a shield. You can tend to chain stagger enemies later on just like they did to you early if you just damage or drain their agility and use a shield.
    I'm glad you mentioned the difficulty slider. I have completed multiple efficient leveling runs (never felt unfun tbh) and I usually started the game with the difficulty at 60/100 while very gradually sliding it down to roughly 35/100 so that I really felt like a force to be reckoned with towards the end of the game when I was level 52ish.
    Also, actually you can get a glimpse into why at least some of the Mythic Dawn cultists join the cult. For one of thing, you can't use the kinds of logic that you are using to discern why a cultist joins a cult. You yourself are clearly not the type of person who would be susceptible to being manipulated into joining a cult.
    If you pay attention to each NPC before you start the quest that turns them hostile, all of them lead pretty isolated and miserable lives. People who both intensely desire to belong to a larger group fighting for a higher cause and who have hardly any connection to family or friends are extremely vulnerable to being manipulated into committing otherwise unthinkable acts. They could even be convinced that daedra aren't as evil as their reputation would lead people to believe, and that death will lead to a worthy reward and an escape from their empty and depressing mortal existence.

    • @MiddayEnglishman
      @MiddayEnglishman 3 місяці тому +2

      I'm a shield guy too.. almost all magic though. Nothing can take me down lol though my offense is lacking a fair bit.

    • @greenscheme2040
      @greenscheme2040 3 місяці тому +2

      Yeah just go around once with the smallest "slice" and listen to (or watch) the reactions. If you want to raise their attitude to you then just make sure you click on the small slice when it is on one of the two negative reactions, forget about the positive ones they will take care of themselves. Besides the more you click the higher your Speechcraft anyway. It is easy as pie.

    • @rdrrr
      @rdrrr 3 місяці тому +3

      Yeah I don't get why the persuasion minigame is memed as being complicated. Hover over each wedge. Look at NPC's facial expression. Big wedge for smile, small wedge for frown. Rotate if available and advantageous. Very simple.
      The game explains it in a tutorial popup - I'm guessing a lot of players skipped over it due to tutorial fatigue (the player will have read a lot of pop-up tutorial boxes by the point they try persuasion) and just clicked at random, not pausing for long enough to take note of NPC facial expressions when you mouse over the wedges. I guess they also clicked too fast to be able to discern the Disposition change from each wedge they clicked so they couldn't even trial-and-error it. I'm not saying the minigame is perfect or the game explains it perfectly but it really is mostly a player issue.

    • @MiddayEnglishman
      @MiddayEnglishman 3 місяці тому

      I always found it confusing. I think it's because the game never really tells you how to do it same with lock picking. I owned this game before my family had internet (internet cafes ftw) so couldn't look it up just had to roll with it. @@rdrrr

    • @rdrrr
      @rdrrr 3 місяці тому

      @@MiddayEnglishman The tutorial popup tells you how it works, although I don't remember how clearly it explains it. I managed to figure it all out aged 15 so it can't have been that bad.

  • @campbellopercrafter
    @campbellopercrafter 4 місяці тому +24

    My god just when I was finishing watching the oblivion work stream. The devil works hard but Kung works harder

  • @aaronhires8620
    @aaronhires8620 3 місяці тому +6

    I started playing today for the first time, and I played for about 10 hours straight immediately. It’s amazing, I haven’t been so immersed in a game since I was a kid.

  • @ghostdrew4887
    @ghostdrew4887 3 місяці тому +26

    You actually can surrender *yield.
    It doesn't tell you though. You block and press the A button.

    • @ZeallustImmortal
      @ZeallustImmortal 3 місяці тому +8

      It does tell you, but its an awful explanation of it.

    • @extrage3061
      @extrage3061 3 місяці тому

      @@ZeallustImmortal yeah I don't think the game tells you.

    • @ZeallustImmortal
      @ZeallustImmortal 3 місяці тому

      @@extrage3061 Good for you but youre wrong

  • @RiddleAnim
    @RiddleAnim 3 місяці тому +9

    Quick correction; You *can* yield to NPCs. Interact while blocking. Depending on disposition and other factors,they may or may not accept.

  • @davemardrov777
    @davemardrov777 3 місяці тому +54

    I like this game more than Skyrim. Purely for the guilds. And the arena. Having an ocean of fences to use as a thief was epic! Oh and the magic to!

    • @JanJansen985
      @JanJansen985 3 місяці тому +3

      You forgot the quests
      Does skyrim have a reference quest to The Deadliest Game?

    • @torvic1236
      @torvic1236 3 місяці тому +2

      The Dark Brotherhood story line and quests are amazing too.

    • @JanJansen985
      @JanJansen985 3 місяці тому

      And Girugamesh

    • @max7971
      @max7971 3 місяці тому +4

      Lmao, the cope is getting surreal at this point.
      Yeah, remember arena guys? Remember how you fought a dude, and then another dude, and then a bunch of them, and then you did A quest (1) and the last dude was so sad that he decided to commit sudoku by the way of standing still? Truly the moment in gaming.

    • @deceitfultears
      @deceitfultears 3 місяці тому

      you're weird​@@max7971

  • @eizoe2753
    @eizoe2753 3 місяці тому +10

    Your line delivery is excellent, probably some of the best I've heard in recent times. Every line has a sense of impact, intrigue, passion etc. It feels authentic and I can't help but take note. Well done.

  • @jackbadrick1598
    @jackbadrick1598 3 місяці тому +5

    I love and have been watching most " Is Oblivion worth playing videos" since like 2016.... Oblivion is just one of those games that is timeless, could be 2040, and it's still worth playing. It's got that magic that makes it really special. Skyrim has the same feeling to me as well. I really hope ES6 captures this feeling too, it will be a damn shame after all these years if it doesn't. Great video.

  • @Idiot_Supreme
    @Idiot_Supreme 3 місяці тому +7

    I watched a bunch of your videos, and I’m not sure why I didn’t subscribe after those. Probably just assumed I already was, since I keep getting your videos on my home feed. Subscribed now!
    Great video, btw. Just started a fresh (lightly modded) playthrough last week. Still love this game, warts and all.

  • @Alderath989
    @Alderath989 3 місяці тому +9

    Owen kung looks like an oblivion character
    Especially with those rippling muscles

  • @insomniacway
    @insomniacway 3 місяці тому +15

    Im subscribed to over 300 people, but only keep the bell notification on for about 10. You're one. Great video as usual.

    • @MiddayEnglishman
      @MiddayEnglishman 3 місяці тому

      The mollies kicked in for someone.. [throws popcorn at you]

  • @FingerSpazm
    @FingerSpazm 3 місяці тому +25

    Hell yeah it's worth playing. And if the fucked up level scaling gets to you just turn down the difficulty a bit. Oblivion has some AMAZING quests and dialogue. The faction quests blow Skyrim's out of the water too. When you finally become the head of a faction you feel like you deserved it

    • @greenscheme2040
      @greenscheme2040 3 місяці тому +3

      Just remember to make Endurance your main priority during every level up and you won't have to use the slider bar. Endurance is your health points and it keeps you alive. Strength helps you kill things better and carry more loot. Make them a priority even if playing a Mage or Thief character and you will be fine. (Also do the max 5 training sessions allowed at each level to help you max out those attributes to 5 per level if possible).

    • @FingerSpazm
      @FingerSpazm 3 місяці тому +2

      @@greenscheme2040 good advice! Though for a new player I'd just recommend messing with the difficulty slider!

    • @bitesizecrayons9187
      @bitesizecrayons9187 2 місяці тому

      The level scaling in this game is buns in the same way I thought it would prove to be in Diablo 4. The game never really gets harder, just the enemies spongier. I don't hate this game and I don't hate D4, but I'll always have trepidation with scaling. At least FF VII Rebirth made it optional (though, to your point, you can change difficulty on the fly with Oblivion, not that difficulty is why I hate it).
      To the one reading who hasn't played: don't let this scare you away from Oblivion. You can become absolutely busted powerful in this game, but on normal you'll be plenty powerful regardless. It's just what I'd call a bad feature of an otherwise good game.

  • @kingbowser999
    @kingbowser999 3 місяці тому +9

    owen kung absolutely cooking out the bangers well done sir

  • @Jake-im2lv
    @Jake-im2lv 3 місяці тому +2

    I played Oblivion when it came out, I was in high school at the time. My PC could hardly play it at the time but I played the hell out of it even with a crappy framerate and ultra low settings. It was the first RPG I played where it felt like you had the freedom to do anything. So many good memories staying up late playing it.

  • @garthsimpson5565
    @garthsimpson5565 3 місяці тому +2

    I actually just finished a Min/Max thing inspired by Baron's Castles Poison run so I did all that... While also only using Poison for damage. Went with a High Elf and after Felldew Addiction and Oghma Ininium and even Vampirism... I can say I did it. But I do not advise it, it's a pain in the butt to keep track of things and in the long run it's not really needed. Just rush max endurance and do everything in stride. The Health aspect is really all I care about now.
    Edit: I didn't say what I wanted to say - Great Video! First timer here. Loved it.

  • @ZeallustImmortal
    @ZeallustImmortal 3 місяці тому +7

    The reputation wheel game is actually super useful earlier on if you take the time to get good at it.
    Lateron, you may as well use charm spells or just bribe them though.

  • @gouinp4669
    @gouinp4669 27 днів тому +1

    just finished the main quest tonight, and many others including add-ons… definitely had a blast !

  • @EnviroChaz
    @EnviroChaz 3 місяці тому +3

    Great video! I started with the Morrowind video, and this made me so happy. I will say, I wish this had more of the eccentricity that the morrowind video had, but nonetheless keep it up

  • @HumanPerson_final
    @HumanPerson_final 3 місяці тому +4

    Not that it matters since you *can* mostly ignore it, but he persuasion mini-game is pretty simple when you look at it.
    Each "topic" will affect the NPC in 4 different ways, which you can tell from their facial expression when you hover over it.
    They'll either Love, Like, Dislike, or Hate the topic.
    The impact of that will depend on how full that "slice" of the wheel is when you select it.
    So the object of the game is to choose the Love and Like options for the fullest slices, giving you big boosts in their attitude towards you, and the opposite for the dislike and hate reactions to minimize their dislike for you. Since the wheel rotates each time you select a slice, there is some strategy to it.
    ... Or just bribe the NPC and ignore it. It just works.

    • @greenscheme2040
      @greenscheme2040 3 місяці тому

      The s ragedy is easy. Just concentrate on watching the smallest slice each rotation of the wheel and click on it if it is in front of the dislike or hate ones. If it isn't then chick on one of the like or love options. Super simple.

  • @sanguinelynx
    @sanguinelynx 3 місяці тому +7

    To this day I never mod the potato faces, I just have a genuine fondness for them. ) One thing I liked about Oblivion is you could yield to a bandit by lowering your shield (and accept theirs) and they might let you go, whereas in Skyrim they say yield but get back up and fight.

    • @rdrrr
      @rdrrr 3 місяці тому +1

      There's a mod out there called "Undeformed Potatoes" that slightly adjusts some of the weirder looking NPCs without fundamentally changing the way the game looks. There are so many NPCs in Oblivion it's not surprising some of them came out looking a bit cooked - just slightly editing facial geometries helps a ton. It doesn't make ugly NPCs "prettier", but it does make them less freakish.
      There's a similar mod for New Vegas and I recommend it equally highly.
      I'm not a fan of OCO etc. because I think they fundamentally change the feel of the game - and I also think they look kinda bad in their own way. OCO NPCs are all plasticky and hard to tell apart from each other, and frankly not everyone should be young and hot. Elderly NPCs should look elderly, and alcoholic beggars should look a bit cracked, you know?

    • @sanguinelynx
      @sanguinelynx 3 місяці тому +1

      @@rdrrr Thanks for the recommendation I'll check out the mod you mentioned. Completely agree about the plasticky look, they're a little uncanny valley in their own way.

    • @rdrrr
      @rdrrr 3 місяці тому +1

      @@sanguinelynx I'm very much a "Vanilla Plus" guy. I'm not into big overhaul mods because if you go too hard, you're no longer playing Oblivion. I like more subtle changes that feel like they keep the "spirit" of the game intact.
      Sometimes it's the small changes that make all the difference. "Louder Nirnroots" is a godsend. "Coloured Enemy Health Bars" is really nice as well.

  • @Jake11700
    @Jake11700 3 місяці тому +5

    Another Kungumentary? What a scrumptious treat.

  • @WonderBlubber
    @WonderBlubber 3 місяці тому +5

    This was a fantastic watch my guy. Your writing, sense of humor and calm, informative diction is really pleasant to listen to both as background content and (the way I watched it) with full attention too. Subbed!

  • @cookiedoujones7538
    @cookiedoujones7538 3 місяці тому +2

    The pizza wheel is pretty easy. Each of the 4 slices have a mood they put the npc in, indicated by their face. You want to select the two happy slices when they have more cheese, and the angry slices when they have less cheese. Its pretty simple.

    • @cookiedoujones7538
      @cookiedoujones7538 3 місяці тому

      Also, invest into endurance and whatever controls your weapon of choice every level. Youll 1-2 shot almost any enemy. Almost...
      If the combat isnt your cup-o-tea, this is a fun way to circumvent it

  • @Blood_Condition
    @Blood_Condition 3 місяці тому +4

    I love this freaking game. Btw we were friends on insta in 2015 I think.

  • @PalazzoAmericanus
    @PalazzoAmericanus 3 місяці тому +2

    Just started playing fresh on pc again last week and I must say I'm having a blast

  • @STERNWAERTS
    @STERNWAERTS 3 місяці тому +1

    i've always loved the texture quality of some of the swords and armor, like at 3:06. the shield looks great. i'm so looking forward to playing it again once Skyblivion or the official "remaster" is out (still don't know if the latter is actually a true story or just BS).

  • @cold1895
    @cold1895 3 місяці тому +10

    I did efficient leveling on max difficulty for my entire playthrough, but I used the item duplication exploit on alchemical ingredients exclusively to reduce the tedium. I didn't use the duplication for infinite money to not make the game completely broken, but I had a decent time even with infinite potions.
    I was getting pretty overpowered because I focus leveled endurance and int in the early game so when I got to level 25 I Rolplayed that my character went mad, she'd his max level divine crusader armour and fled into the shivering isles which I want to do with no armour on max difficulty

    • @MiddayEnglishman
      @MiddayEnglishman 3 місяці тому

      How long did it take you to work out how to do the exploit? did you toil hard? was there a story arc? did you quest? and did you untold power?.
      The game seems to be mainly about going out and learning about the world, for me the Dwemer but also the Ayleids to become the most powerful mage that existed.
      Like you say exploit but I heard ancient power of an unknown Daedra.

    • @greenscheme2040
      @greenscheme2040 3 місяці тому +1

      I do Endurance, Strength and Intelligence in that order with an occasional Willpower thrown in. There are so many free foods to be had in the barrels and crates and inside peoples' homes that I had no trouble getting alchemy up really fast with no need to dupe food. In fact I had to restrain myself to dole it out in roughly 10 alchemy level increments for each level up so I could save some of it for the next level. (Never make it a major either it goes up so fast no need to).

    • @MiddayEnglishman
      @MiddayEnglishman 3 місяці тому

      lol farming, go to a farm, harvest the fields every few days, make 80 healing potions, sell 80 healing potions. @@greenscheme2040

    • @cold1895
      @cold1895 2 місяці тому

      @middayenglishman6003
      I got into playing oblivion pretty late, I already knew of the exploit from watching videos and what not. I played morrowind on Xbox and used the drain intelligence exploit in that for infinite Magica, and kinda ruined my experience. I did another playthrough I enjoyed more without the ability to use it. I still don't have the patience to play morrowind without BOBS.

  • @papapanara1774
    @papapanara1774 3 місяці тому +1

    ILY owen kung! im curious what you think of the mount and blade series!

  • @HontounoShiramizu
    @HontounoShiramizu 3 місяці тому +2

    18:20 I did. At max difficulty. Was near impossible to even pass the rats in the tutorial (or kill them but you have to dodge most/all of them to avoid unwanted levels), but once you get going it's fun in its own way.

  • @joshray7084
    @joshray7084 3 місяці тому +1

    The persuasion mini game is so easy, just look at their face and try to align the full slice with their happy expression and the empty one with their angry face. Spam and repeat.

  • @mightytheknight2878
    @mightytheknight2878 3 місяці тому

    Very important detail, sigil stones can have randomly crazy enchantments on them, which are amazing to grind

  • @on3trackmind
    @on3trackmind 8 днів тому

    Your writing and delivery is great. Please keep making videos

  • @willsmooth8826
    @willsmooth8826 4 місяці тому +5

    Another upload already? Very nice

  • @Coulterculture
    @Coulterculture 3 місяці тому +1

    Wow this was a Very Fast hour of viewing. My husband played older ES games, I only did some Skyrim but he told me the lore and gameplay for oblivion was good. Had no idea how dense it was. 👏 ovation, sir, and a Like+Sub.

    • @greenscheme2040
      @greenscheme2040 3 місяці тому

      Oblivion is the best game not only in Elder Scrolls but ever period for me. Great replay value too. And NPCs that you remember unlike the forgettable ones in Skyrim. And wonderful quirky humor. Guilds are the best and their quests especially the Thieves and Dark Brotherhood. And side quests and all the Daedra quests and the Indiana Jones inspired "Collector's" quest line and the Arena where in the end you get the most iconic NPC in any game ever - The Adoring Fan. (He even ends up in Starfield). And side quests like the paranoia Glathir one and Mozoga the Orc etc.

  • @Assassin7001
    @Assassin7001 3 місяці тому +1

    Oblivion is awesome, I did a recent playthrough again on console and turned down the difficulty bar one tick for every couple level ups, which worked out pretty well. I also didn't allow myself to wait to heal damage.

  • @cerdic6586
    @cerdic6586 2 місяці тому +1

    Oblivion to me is an example of why you should never chase nostalgia. Some childhood memories should be left as a sweet memory.

  • @bigPauliee
    @bigPauliee 3 місяці тому +1

    You are pumping these videod out, nice

  • @zer0sucksatguitar311
    @zer0sucksatguitar311 10 днів тому

    I’ve had a lot of fun playing oblivion now that I’m older and able to pick it up and learn just from playing, when I was younger when I first got the game at 13 I couldn’t really understand the game. But I’ve already been into Skyrim for the whole year prior, and since I was struggling with oblivions mechanics I just left it alone till recently and it’s been really fun. I want to master it just like I’ve mastered Skyrim

  • @skinnygeorge9013
    @skinnygeorge9013 3 місяці тому +1

    Bro I started playing again like last week and I’m loving it more than ever

  • @gxrssll
    @gxrssll 2 місяці тому +2

    being there in 2006 and playing this you can not comprehend how good it was for its time, the FIRST of its kind

  • @deafii441
    @deafii441 3 місяці тому +2

    i absolutey adore seeing an Oblivion video in 2024, you have my thanks sir

  • @SkinnyCriz95
    @SkinnyCriz95 3 місяці тому +2

    I'm a simple man, I see another 1Hour+ Oblivion video. I watch, i enjoy.
    Great vid man!

  • @MrKrekken
    @MrKrekken 6 годин тому +1

    I can’t wait for skyblivion to be released though! I think sooooo many people are going to go from hating on oblivion or saying it’s janky to possibly thinking it’s one of, if not the greatest simply because the engine’s updated.

  • @transformlifemusic
    @transformlifemusic 2 місяці тому

    been playing it on xbox series x and its amazing.. used to love playing it on release when i had no internet back in the day... 29 years old now

  • @Hinguckah
    @Hinguckah 3 місяці тому +3

    When I play the old Elder Scrolls games I always do efficient levelling, it is really not that hard if you had some plan beforehand. You can for example just make all your main and secondary skills be for the same attribute and the rest whatever you are never going to use that is easy to level up (possibly without combat) like snak if you don't plan to play stalthy and that is already enough if you pay some attention to wether you could level up now or not.
    You can level up way more often then you need to in order to get everything to 100 so you do not need to be perfect at all, but the fear of messing up leads to people ONLY picking skills the do not want to use, which is where the insane tedium some people experience comes from.
    So how I play is I have for example all the strenth skills and I just prepare the level by using let's say spells so I get my 10 levels for intelligence and endurance and then I play normally untill I get my level up and then prepare my level again. Obviously this does not work if you overextend your adventure for so long that you made 20 or more level ups in your main skills but that is really not hard to avoid.
    As soon as you have a skill at 100 you can just use that for every situation.
    Also since at some point you want to go somewhere to sell whatever you found adventuring anyway it is not that different I feel, just instead of the carry weight it is your level progress sending you back to town, so it doesn't change that much in my opinion.
    It is still a stupid system though.

    • @rdrrr
      @rdrrr 3 місяці тому

      I really think the problem is just "learn-by-doing" (is there a better word for that? "Skill-based leveling", maybe?) systems in general.
      It sucked in Final Fantasy II in 1988 and it sucked in Oblivion in 2006. It's just hard to design a system like that that isn't opaque, intrusive and annoying.
      I think most of Oblivion's game design is actually solid, so I don't use any big overhaul mods... except the leveling system. I mod the _shit_ out of that - I use Ultimate Leveling to implement a Fallout-style XP system. An XP-based system lets you play the game the way _you_ want, not the way the _game_ wants - plus it rewards exploration, reading books etc., which is nice.

  • @AxelOwnz
    @AxelOwnz 7 днів тому

    I think I was 16 or 17 when Oblivion came out. I remember playing this for the first time with friends. It was mindblowing having a open world game that looked so good graphically at the time. It's got its flaws but i have a ton of nostalgia for it.

  • @Coco-Don
    @Coco-Don 24 дні тому

    The first time I ever played this game it blew my mind. Walking out of the sewers for the first time and seeing those rolling hills and trees is something I’ll never forget.

  • @MorningAndEveningStar
    @MorningAndEveningStar 3 місяці тому +1

    I am one of those weirdos who, back in the day, completed several playthroughs with efficient leveling. Endurance always needed to be leveled up +5 until 100, because of the Endurance-based health boost received each level. So +5 for Endurance, +5 for another attribute, and the +1 for Luck. Had to take the Thief birthsign, if I remember correctly, for that Luck bonus. I actually loved Oblivion's leveling system, and was very bummed to see Skyrim simplify it.

  • @sweavenger
    @sweavenger 3 місяці тому +1

    I have followed you for so many years now on instagram, glad to see you becoming a quality youtuber. You will blow up one day!

  • @nicklionberger7229
    @nicklionberger7229 3 місяці тому

    My dad bought this game for me in 2008 and I fell in love instantly, we would all play it and keep each other updated on our characters and progression. Game holds a special place in my childhood for sure.

  • @anthonyparillo7832
    @anthonyparillo7832 10 днів тому +1

    How do you not know how the disposition wheel works? If they smile they like it if they frown they don’t, give big pie slices to big smiles and small ones to scowls. Ez

  • @mullininatlanta
    @mullininatlanta 3 місяці тому +5

    owen kung i have followed you on ig for years as the best meme page and now u make my favourite yt videos ever. pls keep doing bethesda stuff and other cool old games like them

  • @aeternusthegoat
    @aeternusthegoat 4 місяці тому +11

    there is actually a youtuber who 100% the game and he had to do efficient levelling the whole time. his name is "VoicesFromTheDark". yes his name is edgy, he made it when he was a teenager.

    • @Elegiast
      @Elegiast 3 місяці тому +2

      Oh man, I used to watch that guy years ago! Loved him. Thanks for mentioning him, gotta go back and watch more of his stuff.

    • @greenscheme2040
      @greenscheme2040 3 місяці тому

      @@joshuastoughton1693Yes and you get his mask but the best part is you get the 3 story Thieves Guild hideout and live on the third floor. Other thieves come into the first floor to visit and I park The Adoring Fan there as my Meet and Greet guy to chat them up. Just play again and do the Thieves Guild all the way through. If you have a laptop now well Oblivion is super cheap to buy at this point and comes with the two expansions etc.

    • @palek555
      @palek555 3 дні тому

      He is pretty good at commentary too compared to others who made oblivion lets plays, if you wanna watch an oblivion playthrough he is the guy.

  • @turtlesquirtles7422
    @turtlesquirtles7422 3 місяці тому

    I have to say there is nothing more rewarding than having all your stats at 100 (minus luck still working on it) on perfect leveling. Getting the ring of perfection mixed with things like amulet of the acrobatic and you are zooming everywhere able to move in and out of enemies range pretty easily. even with the best weapons and spells shit still takes a while to kill but its enjoyable. Having a mod that keeps track of things really made it more manageable I haven't done the dlc to reset my stats further to level up even more but after a while it all becomes numbers not necessary but fun.

  • @mightytheknight2878
    @mightytheknight2878 3 місяці тому +1

    "Jauffre caught with his pants down", and "that bullshit but I believe it" this is precious nice video, good job sir.

  • @williamtalbot5549
    @williamtalbot5549 3 місяці тому +1

    Would really love to see battalion wars 2 on the wii. That game holds a special place in my childhood.

  • @ethanwright387
    @ethanwright387 3 місяці тому +4

    I love you so much Owen Kung

  • @mretlan8528
    @mretlan8528 2 місяці тому

    I remember playing this game with my dad when I was 8, we rented it from block busters and tried to follow the plot. We got absolutely railed in Kavatch, so we went to the arena to grind levels, good times I should replay oblivion soon

  • @miniyodadude6604
    @miniyodadude6604 3 місяці тому +3

    Its so funny that people hate the personality wheel so much, when really it has two patterns and takes a minute to master and then its just kinda this fun stim activity, lol.
    My rules are simple, use the smallest bar on the negative values, then use the biggest value you can on the positive value when you cant use the smallest on the negative

    • @max7971
      @max7971 3 місяці тому

      My problem is not that it’s hard to master, but that it’s retarded. Why am I mandated to tell a joke in every conversation?

    • @greenscheme2040
      @greenscheme2040 3 місяці тому

      Yep. You can do it in your sleep basically. Have anybody maxed as far as they go in seconds.

  • @dodger7896
    @dodger7896 3 місяці тому +1

    Holding the attack button does a power attack if an enemy is blocking thats what you do

  • @melkor97
    @melkor97 12 днів тому

    also how I deal with the conversation wheel is that I click on the smallest part for the whole round and look when the disposition raised, the expressions are sometimes difficult to read, so this works for me better

  • @ashleejones586
    @ashleejones586 2 місяці тому

    Man. I still come back to this game and find new stuff I’ve never done or seen. It’s dated AF, but that’s part of it’s charm. Love this game

  • @Ac0ustics0ul
    @Ac0ustics0ul 2 місяці тому +1

    I wouldve hated a jungle...i love the woods,fields, and fauna...it fit the pure, high fantasy theme..this was my first elder scrolls game, and really, my first experience with a game of this scale and freedom...it was my dream game, the one i had always imagined but never figired id get to play... And i had no idea what it was going to be like going in...i cant even describe the experience, it was magical, I was enchanted.. the only way you could ever really get that feeling is undet similar circumstances ..were spoiled now

  • @p1ssedoffchristof48
    @p1ssedoffchristof48 3 місяці тому +2

    Perennial White Snake- Here I Go Again on My Own

  • @Mr.Wpunkt
    @Mr.Wpunkt Місяць тому

    I installed Oblivion 2 weeks ago, including the Bevilex Modlist, Better Citites, Unique Landscapes, MOO, some more Quest Mods and things like Crowded Cities. I am 4 hours into game and besides 3-4 CTDs in that time, everything works so far. This is my greatest accomplishment this year, there is no better feeling than walking trough a modded Imperial City, including ENB and modern textures!

  • @adog1423
    @adog1423 3 місяці тому +1

    I've actually been playing oblivion for the first time recently, it's nothing short of a stroke of genius. Such a captivating game.

  • @stalkingtoastranger
    @stalkingtoastranger 2 місяці тому

    Would love to see you do a video on even older TES titles like Arena and Daggerfall too!

  • @itsshawn1265
    @itsshawn1265 2 місяці тому

    I recently started playing Oblivion - Last Seed which is just a modpack that overhauls the vanilla game with included bug fixes and added cut content. I highly recommend it if your computer can handle it

  • @hstafford078
    @hstafford078 2 місяці тому

    The moment you leave th3 dungeon and see that wide vista was truly a jaw-dropping moment at the time.

  • @chewthetrain
    @chewthetrain 3 місяці тому

    Thank you, algorithm, Thoroughly enjoyed this. Subbed.

  • @user-vy9km7ib9t
    @user-vy9km7ib9t 3 місяці тому +2

    Such a banger of a game, I've played this on and off since I was little and it has a charm that unmatched. It has immersion but just he right amount of jank to add humour.

  • @vitorfray
    @vitorfray 2 місяці тому

    I completed an efficient leveling playthrough. I even posted the result on reddit, and it had a pretty nice reception. I leveled using 5/5/1, I used the felldew withdrawal to get attributes past 100, and I read the Oghma Infinium once I had everything maxed. The final level achieved was level 56. I think you can't go higher than that without using exploits such as jail time, drain skill + training or other level up glitches.

  • @danielivo5313
    @danielivo5313 2 місяці тому

    To me, gameplay factors aside, the music and atmosphere is just unreal. It really drives you into a whole other state of mind... damn even the caverns, the lighting, everything just feels so awesome.

  • @BroHindice
    @BroHindice 3 місяці тому

    Favorite meme pages turned dope youtuber, cant beat it

  • @mrfunnyman1061
    @mrfunnyman1061 3 місяці тому +2

    Your content does not disappoint, I may have found you because of my unhealthy stalker obsession, but I stayed because your content's high quality in general.

  • @schlumpy982
    @schlumpy982 3 місяці тому +3

    Hi Owen Kung I'm happy to see you still thriving and outputting consumable tidbits and whatnot. Fr love your work Owen xx

  • @artemgushin5228
    @artemgushin5228 3 місяці тому +3

    Oblivion is like a B movie, with those papier-mâché armor and weapons, and unrealistic overly fluid movements so as not to injure the other actors
    This game has its own charm, no less

  • @xiampiii
    @xiampiii 2 місяці тому

    This was the first fantasy rpg I played on the Xbox 360, and it has a such a special place in my heart tbh EVEN IN 2024

  • @derekwestbury8060
    @derekwestbury8060 13 днів тому

    Very funny and entertaining video, subscribed

  • @Keebrev
    @Keebrev 3 місяці тому

    Owen kung having a UA-cam channel was the least expected surprise of 2024 for me

  • @kozhedub
    @kozhedub Місяць тому

    Oblivion's step out moment was actually fucking magical to me back in those days

  • @caseyking8394
    @caseyking8394 4 місяці тому +3

    early to a kung upload today is a good day

  • @buttfckmcgraw4722
    @buttfckmcgraw4722 3 місяці тому +1

    Imagine If Bethesda starting making updates on oblivion, messing up mods, just like they keep doing with skyrim

  • @-Plushy
    @-Plushy 3 місяці тому

    Great video about Oblivion as a whole it was good to hear somethings that I never knew while playing the first time. Quick question what's the best and most fair levelling mod? I know a levelling mod was mentioned but not sure which one to use :)

  • @Moticolev
    @Moticolev 3 місяці тому

    I actually do the efficient leveling every time I play, it's not as hard as you think, and if you make a mistake, you can always commit a crime and serve your sentence to reduce your skills and try again. The key is using specific locations to grind skills you want to level, such as the frozen npcs at the shrine to peryite, any low level locks that respawn regularly, creating a 1 second conjure dagger spell. It's all about getting to max as soon as possible, so you can essentially ignore leveling for the entire game.

    • @rdrrr
      @rdrrr 3 місяці тому

      There are definitely people out there that enjoy the whole spreadsheet optimization metagame. I'm not one of them, but if it works for you, good. Play the game the way _you_ want to.

  • @TheGman4747
    @TheGman4747 3 місяці тому

    I've always told my friends that every time I've done a playthrough of Oblivion(or even just watched the many playthroughs/lets plays), something different always seems to happen, whether intentional or unintentional. Without mods(though mods always are welcome) too. Biggest reason why its still my favorite Elder Scrolls game hehe.

  • @ibezu24
    @ibezu24 4 місяці тому +7

    Is Owen worth Kunging in 2024