Oblivion In 2024 Is Utterly Bewildering.
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- Опубліковано 27 чер 2024
- The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion is eighteen years old. In spite of its age, the game retains a steady following and in recent years has garnered attention because of the Skyblivion project. In this video, I talk about why Oblivion is one of the most unique RPG's ever made.
00:00 Introduction
03:09 What makes Oblivion unique?
04:50 Oblivion's main story
09:02 Why Oblivion is absurd
12:40 The Shivering Isles
Thanks for watching! - Ігри
It just works.
Sometimes it jerks
Like an arrow to the knee!
@@azariasthelastTake care.
Hey hoddtoward!!
@@Shockazulu12 hey my dude
That music will NEVER get old
Yesss it's so good
still is my ring tone
Jeremy Soules Elder Scrolls music is a cut above other game music imo. He wrote really inspired soundtracks for all three games.
Oblivion helped me through a horrible time in my life. Not just was the game so freaking fun but a lot of stuff it introduced to me, surprised me at the time. Things like the open world, the npc day cycles, the races, the fact that you could loot almost everything. Sure now that I've played it for such a long time I've seen its flaws; the removal of the Jungle, Culture, and Lore was very upsetting looking back now. The Oblivion gates were really annoying cause they were around the same 10 gates...when there's like 60 gates in the game. The armors were hit and miss with some really terrible looking helmets and the leveling system is an unhinged mess.
But holy crap, I still feel whimsical walking through the forests of Cyrodill; I still feel eriee when exploring the dungeons. I love the quests, I love the guilds, I love the characters. I love the setting, I love the shivering isles, I love looking for the daedric artifacts and finding ancient powerful relics to slay monsters and villains. Oblivion is my favorite game and always will be.
morrowind was my first and will always be my favorite elder scrolls game, but oblivion just feels so cozy to me
People always forget the music. Without the music you wouldn't feel half of it. TES VI will make that very obvious, unfortunately.
@@iAnasaziWhy would TES 6 not have great music?
@@reredrumuoy It's just a concern that many of us have knowing Jeremy Soule won't be composing the new tracks. However, I like Inon Zur and his work on Fallout 4 and Starfield. I think the game's soundtrack is probably in the best hands it can be in given the circumstance, but I worry it will always leave me wondering what could have been. The soundtracks for the last three titles are iconic, and the games would not be the same without Jeremy's work. Inon Zur will definitely have his work cut out for him. I do wish him luck.
What about the lore could be upsetting? 🧐
I think it’s perfectly fine.
Such a thought would never even cross my mind.
Morrowind and Oblivion are the best Games from Bethesda. Skyrim was good, but very washed out.
Can't wait for you to make a video detailing why the Duke of Mania and the Duchess of Dementia are idiots and why Sheogorath is actually a genius
Deadass
Oblivion stands out so starkly to the other Elder Scrolls Games.
Morrowind is like watching a Ray Harryhausen claymation film about medieval Martians,
Skyrim is like an HBO Game of Thrones knock-off.
Any Oblivion is like the Muppet Show with with special guest stars Patrick Stewart and Sean Bean.
It's weird to say that it's a game of thrones knock off because GOT was inferior to Skyrim and relied on tv porting character death drama to generate profit. It's similar to walking dead - the writing works because it's so easy to jerk the audience back and forth by subverting expectations. Like a pendulum, it is way easier to reach the other extreme when you're pulled back first.
Morrowind has the best story of the games though. I think people think a video game means it has to be visually spectacular or it's not good. But that's what movies are for. That's why Marvel went in the shitter. It's trying too hard to appeal to visual spectacularity instead of realism and focus on gameplay loop.
In conclusion: roleplaying worlds should not be treated like movies.
Movies have static, linear storylines, good RPGs do not
@@amelioravictoriadionyssia3323 The divergence between the tones is what won me for one over to Elder Scrolls as my default fantasy series after Final Fantasy started losing its way.
I personally prefer Oblivion of the three Elder Scrolls games we talk about because of its blend of absurdity and sincerity, but Morrowind’s commitment to a moon logic society and just expecting you to keep up is admirable too, Skyrim is a bit short on depth but it’s environmental storytelling is the best so far and makes it highly immersive.
Go Morrowind if your priority is art,
Go Oblivion if your priority is fun,
And go Skyrim if your priority is immersion.
@@mesektet5776 I think what elder scrolls is in its essence is a reflection of the astrotheological (astrotheology means cosmic bodies are divine beings... E.g. Roman/Greek gods & planets) history of mankind. Like there are a lot of cultural similarities but it seems that the concept of like Gnosis of the world as illusion/dream is similar to eastern philosophies like Hinduism... The more you understand about elder scrolls, the more you understand about our world, and vice versa.
Hermeticism is an especially important subject to dive into, especially when it comes specifically to oblivion as oblivion had the highest concentration of legitimate magical knowledge from our world, including alchemical effects being historically accurate to the recorded alchemical effects of foods and materials that are the same here.
YES SDFHGJDSH IT IS THE MUPPETS!!
For me Oblivion is Austin Powers, while the other TES games are James Bond.
My all-time favorite game but it's really hard to go back to cause it has that same feeling as Skyrim where you get the urge to play but can't grab that same feeling we had when playing for the first time
Try playing this game called Eastshade!!! oblivion without violence
It is of legal age now.
Oblivion is like a girl that's a 3 or 4 in looks, but knows how to cook and clean, has a sweet personality, is great with kids, and can suck your soul out in bed (not just through her mouth). She's no looker, but you'll fall in love eventually if you spend enough time with her.
That hole in the center of the CD is lookin pretty good right about now
Does that mean we won´t start in prison this time?
There’s no laws against the Hero of Kvatch, Batman
It can now legally take those "graphics" mods
I was about 12 when i first played the brush of death quest. To this day i think its the most creative questdesign there is.
Oblivions radiant AI is mostly hilarious but theres been a few exchanges ive seen that were actually really impactful
I once saw a comment saying that this game is basically just Monty Python, and it's the best to describe the A.I in this game haha
Everyone memes the AI but considering it was 2006 and hundreds of people are given entire unique schedules was massive
Shivering Isles is exactly what Oblivion needed and remains one of my all time best expansion/DLCs for a game. Just a totally wacky worldspace and characters to contrast with the green european setting of base game.
I don't know why, but I can't stand Shivering Isles. I've just never been able to enjoy it.
🎉😢😅
I got Oblivion for the first time as a gift from grandma. I wanted it so badly due to loving Skyrim. But after a while I came across the graphics and told her she didn't need to bother. She had however already bought it. But I played it anyways. Safe to say after a couple 100 hours of playing it the graphics didn't seem to bother me XD
Everytime I see an Oblivion video I get the urge to replay it, then I remember the annoying levelling system and change my mind.
It's honestly not that bad. What bothers me is the shitty immersion with ein of the mill bandits wearing daedric armor. That really blows.
I decided to play a few days ago, I was very powerful flying through the arena, leveled up twice and was getting my ass kicked
Oscuro's Oblivion Overhaul. You could do a playthrough with just that, should fix the levelling issue
There's a lot of simple mods that fix that.
Nothing will fix the fact that the graphics are literally paper thin.
Just started playing this for the first time.
Did you enjoy it?
@@pendanttea421 it's good so far, really hard to figure out where you're going. Skyrim did better in direction to quests. If only Oblivion had access to the Clairvoyance spell.
I played Oblivion for the first time, maybe 2 years ago. Tried to play in the past, but this time, I committed and loved every second!
Oblivion was like Minecraft for me man, blew my mind as a little kid. I used to make my uncle make characters and watch him do stupid things with spells
Elder Scrolls 3 saved me from an abusive relationship, and I'm not even joking. And Elder Scrolls 4 helped me make friends by finding people with my interests. These games have legitimately been major factors in my life at different times.
I want to play it on PC but it doesn't offer controller support (my hands are unable to use a keyboard in gaming fashion).
Oblivion is a wonderful game, despite its many flaws. Its like a good relationship. You see the flaws, but many of them endear the object of your affection to you. She's quirky & most definitely not for everyone. That suits me just fine.
I absolutely love Oblivion: the magic system, the physics (the good and the bad), the combat, the quests, the lore, etc.
I find myself coming back to it quite often.
I was 14 when Oblivion came out and I just remember so vividly watching the video review on Gamespot and then playing it. That first time coming out of the prison and seeing the mountains in the distance and then learning you can go there. That was for me so mindblowing.
FIRST AND DAMN 18 YEARS BROOOOOOOO
You weren’t first
3:27
I realized this myself. I was contemplating life after I graduated college and realized the idea of a bunch of sentient monkeys who are the only self aware beings in the universe(as far as we know) walking around doing evil to one another as much as good was the most absurd thing I had ever conceived of. silly games like this are one of those things that got me thinking we're like a bunch of NPCs wandering around with our set schedules and priorities blissfully unable to even perceive the greater reality or significance of our existence. Long story short, I think that was the first step I took to finding God. It just takes a little bit of humility to sit back and laugh at existence itself and realize how small our perspective truly is.
Surprisingly based take hidden in the comments of a
If video games made you "find" God, I think you should do some more soul-searching. God and life cannot be summed up by "Radiant AI"...
@@ZeroOdyssey think you may have missed the point.
I'll not forget the colours of the setting sun like I had not seen before in a game. It was a gem and thank you for this reminder! ❤
Oblivion inspired me to achieve getting my degree, getting insanely fit and upsklling everything in my life. Amazing game and it all starts with the MUSIC
Oblivion is one of those games I just always end up returning to. It's just pure comfort to me. Oblivion, RE4(original), Dark Souls 1, Fallout NV, Halo 2, 3, and Reach, Borderlands 2, Galactic Battlegrounds, Empire at War - they've always got me when other games fail to keep me. There were times in my life where these games were literally the only ones I played, and honestly, if I had to go back to just playing those for the next 10 years or so, I think I'd be alright with that. Granted I do mod a lot, but still.
Cut off the intro audio but I still hear it "Behold, in darkness, a doom sweeps the land." first Elder Scrolls game I played, was 8 or 9 at the time and still love oblivion to this day.
Oblivion is what got me into The Elder Scrolls at 8 years old. It's definitely a janky game in some parts but it still holds a special place in my heart that can only be rivaled by Skyrim.
It has interesting questions too with nice writing Bethesdas writing got progressively worse than it was already after Oblivion. Look at FO3 & 4 stories are absolute garb.
I still play this game often on my Xbox Series X. just a fun game in general to me. my first game in the Elder Scrolls series was Oblivion
To this day I consider Shivering Isles to be the best DLC ever made for any game, but I just started Shadow of the Erdtree, and it may give Shivering Isles a run for its money. Different genres, but both DLC have something crucial in common, the most concise way I can put it is that both seem to have been made as full size games in and of themselves, almost like half sequels, rather than just add ons. I don’t know why more game companies haven’t done that in all these years.
Always love seeing appreciation for Oblivion. It was and still is one of my favorite RPGs of all time, and I consider it a comfort game.
You just sumarized everthing I've been thinking of Oblivion. I always found it's humor and wackiness charming, especially combined with clunky gameplay mechanics and bugs. On the other hand it tends to be very profound and philosophical at times. Especially with it's soundtrack.
Man i just put another like 30-50 hours into oblivion last December its the only game as old as it is that keeps me coming back and picking it back up for a bit every so often
It doesn't add a whole lot to your presentation but, Mankor Cameron was portrayed by Terence Stamp - another excellent famous actor.
Great video!
When I look back at my life and some of the things that gave me the sense of humor that I have today, the shivering Isles definitely plays a huge part in it. It was just so absurdist, and everything Sheogorath said was just icing on the cake. It was like anchorman style humor turned into a video game and I loved it. When I think of how little I get for DLC in video games nowadays, I remember how many dozens of hours I got out of the shivering isles. Best DLC I’ve ever purchased.
I have to admit this was the first game of Elder scrolls I’ve ever played. It is also my favorite, even if it might not be the best. I would very much like to try to play sky oblivion, but I don’t know how.
I'm hoping that the Oblivion remaster is real. I'd love to play through it again. The only real complaint I have that I'd hope would be addressed is the lack of NPCs in towns. Last I tried to play it felt so empty it was immersion breaking. The imperial city is the main one. It needs to be packed and feel lived in.
Edit: more voice actors too.
It was my first open world game and role play game.
I actually didn't really like Oblivion on release having come from Morrowind, mostly because of what you mentioned about how absurd the game is. The Shivering Isles completely changed my perception of the game, embracing that absurdity and madness and completely turned my opinion of Oblivion around. Man I miss crafting my own spells and enchantments in both those games, though.
Oblivion was my first Elder Scrolls game, I played it on the Xbox 360. I didn't know that you had to sleep to level up your character so I basically never leveled any of my skills. One day I'd like to play the game correctly lol
Now Star Citizen has a $48,000 DLC spaceship. Oh, how far we’ve fallen.
10:25 LMFAO bruh this brings up so much nostalgia
I remember pickpocketing a mf elf and that mf started screaming pick pocket and going crazy
The “thank ya kind sir!”
Oblivion is charming and the shivering isles perfectly encapsulates the games
Love Skyrim and oblivion. Both unique game with unique charm. I can't choose to give up either of them
Oblivion is like if yakoozia did a medevil game
The game was going to be a lot better. There was a main developer that in old threads talked about how Cyrodill the game is set in was going to look alien like, like Morrowind before it. But Todd Howard watched movie Lord of the Rings and changed everything.
Feel like Oblivion had the same thing happen to it as Demon’s Souls three years later. Just got totally eclipsed by the next installment of said games. Like once dark souls came out nobody talked about demon’s souls just like oblivion got forgotten because Skyrimalot.
Edit: we definitely need some love for remastering both! morrowind & oblivion. And I mean maybe throw in Skyrim, like guess make a “new era” bundle. But I want a twenty year anniversary for ES.IV.O
Sheogoroth always made me laugh….
“I’m mad, MAD I tell you mmwahahahahahaha. Utterly insane” (proceeds to stand completely still).
Oblivion will always be my favorite Elder Scrolls game. And i dont know that any game will have better DLC than Shivering Isles.
The open world and awesome faction quest lines are really good in oblivion but the leveling and the way you always get staggered when your attacks get blocked makes it hard to play for me.
Oblivion was the game that made me fall in love with PC gamjng and RPG games. Despite how clunky and hilarious the radiant AI can be at times, it made the game have one of the most immersive atmospheres that no other game can't seem to replicate. I haven't seen any other game pay attention to detail like giving NPCs eating routines or shifting guard duties. It was ambitious to accomplish for their time and I love what they came up with nonetheless.
One must imagine Sisyphus is happy doing radiant quests
Yeah skyrim is kinda.....ugh.
Omg immediately clicked the notification i lovw your content man ❤❤❤
9:21 The GODDAMN NIRNROOT QUEST
Played it last year (with mods duh) and it's still wonderful.
Back when it came out games hadnt come as far & I remember how amazed I was by Oblivion at that time. At 13ish i played it & it was the entire reason I ended up buying a Xbox 360 with my Bday money. I saved all I could & told all my friends & fam I was trying to get a 360. 1 of my favorite memories ever. Oblivion has nice writing & characters. Skyrim feels more dry but, has better systems. (Skyrim is not bad in story) im js it feels dry because, Bethesda couldnt write a well paced story if it smacked them in the face.
Made a new game on xboxX and damn does the map really make you sit back and think damn this was made 18 years ago..
Ive actually played oblivion these past weeks and its so fun! The dlc, quests, and the quest lines! Oblivion is truly the best elder scrolls
This game got me thru my parents' divorce as a kid. As the hero of kvatch I couldn't be bothered with their toxic problems
the game just is what it is , and as is the case for me with all fallout/elder scrolls games i play them unmodded because they just are what they are regardless of the absurdity
One of my favorite bits of Oblivion is that, you aren't the chosen one. You are just a guy, and not just a guy, a prisoner. You just happen to be in the cell that the blades are using by chance, and frankly you have no real reason to do what the Emperor tells you. It is the call to adventure, you aren't a chosen one, you aren't someone destined for greatness. You just happen to be there and are the right man for the time.
It is a good game overall, fun, varied environments and interesting mechanics. I would love to see a remaster someday, be it Skyblivion or an official remaster. As the games visuals (especially character models) have aged a bit.
In Oblivion you are in a way the Chosen one but you aren't something overly special, just a person who was placed into your circumstances by the gods, becoming the Hero of Kvatch and one of the most influential protagonists of the whole series. the whole reason the empire didn't fall completely is because of the Hero of Kvatch.
I hope they preserve the insanity while modernizing the gameplay. The leveling system is broken. How they choose to fix it doesn't really matter - they could go with the Fallout system and just use experience and use that to upgrade your "special" stats, or they could go all-in with the Skyrim system where it's all about the skills and perks and attributes don't matter. The biggest issue is that, in vanilla Oblivion, you can get "weaker" as you gain levels if you don't have an intricate plan.
I genuinely think it’s a great game. Like Morrowind, it broke new ground (not just the horse armour) quests like the dark brotherhood and inside the painting, as well as the dlc, where some of the best.
It is the most dated of the franchise, it’s both intentionally and unintentionally hilarious games. It does need a remake that doesn’t strip away it’s own identity.
Martin would be a great emperor? I beg to differ! He is voiced be Sean Bean. He was destined to die, one way or another.
But thanks for another brilliant video essay Avarti! :)
Patrick Stewart, Daggerfall opening redub?
Make it so!
I was playing it just yesterday, might play it a little tonight before bed. I still love it. In some ways I like it more than Skyrim. It's a very comfy game over all.
I wanted to play Oblivion again but the game won't let me type my character's name so I am forever stuck in Character Creation Limbo. And no mod I could find could fix it.
in oblivion.ini try and make sure u see bBackground Keyboard=1
Just re-download the game again. I bought Oblivion (plus all the DLC's) through GOG - PC version.
@@jodiepalmer2404 I have the steam version. and I believe I did redownload it only for nothing to happen
Shivering Isles is in the conversation of the greatest DLCs of all time
In my opinion this is the best Elder Scrolls game
Just got all the achievements for skyrim. Oblivion up next
Skyblivion is my most anticipated game of 2025, can't wait to get lost in oblivion again.
Game came out 12 Days after I was born Its so fun but dated alot.
I disagree from before you leave your cell. You are explained by the emperor how special and important and how you're the chosen one and how you're in his dreams. I don't think it's right to say you're not somebody special. You just not recognized it the way you are, by the npcs in skyrim
The level scaling makes it nearly unplayable in actual reality. One of the worst game design decisions of all time, a decision so bad the very idea of massive overhaul mods was created as a result of it. Oblivion did not ever get talked about without OOO back in the day. No revisionism will change that. Oblivion is a horrendous game without it.
How long have you waited to include Camus in a video?
One of my favorite games ❤❤❤
Say what you will about Oblivion. It was my introduction to The Elder Scrolls,I love the story and the expansions and while I much prefer the visual styles of Morrowind and Skyrim,Oblivion has a goofy charm to it
Oblivion, with all its flaws and absurdities, is a masterpiece.
Oblivion is the only monty python game we ever got😢
Oblivion is a masterpiece ❤. Flawed, but good and memorable.
Take notes, Bethesda.
Oblivion was the best I loved it more than anything Bethesda has made I spent so much time on my Xbox 360 played it over and over
i want to love oblivion and attempted to play this countless times but i always drop mid game because of the ridiculous leveling system and the enemies just out scale you ten fold no matter how you leveled efficiently or maxed out everything.
There's a difficulty slider in settings, it literally is just a scale number for their dmg and hp
theres mods that easily fix the levelling issue
The only genuinely and objectively absurd thing in Oblivion is level-scaling: enemies, item tables, etc. Everything else is a subjective matter.
NI-NI-NI-NI-NI-NI-NI-NI-NI-NI-NI!!!
How to do azura quest anyone?
Visit the shrine talk go the priest and go from there?
@menotme8085 yes then you need the star artifact
In my opinion, TES IV is the best TES game. It’s just a magical experience (I’m biased as it’s my favorite game ever) and although some may prefer Morrowind or Skyrim, I just always felt that this one was a true masterpiece that got to benefit from some of the best graphic and open world mechanics a game could get at the time it was released. This workmanship is from an Era of Bethesda that is no longer around 😢.
Oblivion is the video game that I will keep replaying every few years, I did it just last year and I think it's too early at the moment. You showed us the jumping mechanic to level up acrobatics - it makes no sense to have it in a video game, but I always do it and for bizarre reasons, it keeps me engaged. The combination of Oblivion ingredients is simply perfect. I like your philosophical take on the game - we do many things, not because they make sense objectively, but because we take pleasure in doing them.
No bugs here...only feature's
i just want to play it in vr like skyrim
Do you want to throw up
Crazy how skyrim only came out only 13 years ago .
I have tried SO HARD to get into Oblivion but I just can’t do it. Love Skyrim and Morrowind, but I’ve put in hours and hours into Oblivion over multiple attempts and I’ve just never really enjoyed it.
The story never really clicked with me, there’s little to no role playing, and the dialogue isn’t anything to write home about.
But that’s fine, right? Skyrim didn’t excel at any of that either, what carried that game for me was the exploration, the combat, and the progression. The cycle of dopamine.
But in Oblivion enemy scaling is broken, so unless you google how to optimally level you’ll have to constantly turn down the difficulty or else feel like you’re either not getting stronger at all, or god forbid getting WEAKER. So even just playing to experience the progression is a no go.
So if I’m not playing for the combat/progression, and I’m not playing for the story/dialogue, why am I playing? Exploration? It’s 99% forest and plains, and I can fast travel anywhere from the jump.
I’m sorry man, I just can’t figure it out. I feel like I’m missing something obvious, and if anyone has any tips or ideas please let me know!
Edit: I’m hoping Skyblivion helps, since at the very least scaling will be fixed. Shame that Shivering Isles won’t be released at launch, though understandably, as I’ve heard that’s some of the best Oblivion has to offer.
No I think you are right. Nostalgia is often misused as an explanation of why people like old games, when oftentimes they are as good or better than modern ones, but Oblivion, at its core a quite juvenile experience, and i think it's hard to enjoy today, at least as an adult, without having played it while younger. The guild quest lines, the part of the game that seems to be the most lauded, work as sort of entertaining roller coaster rides that take the player through some twist and turns and send them on some fun quests, but nothing more. And as you said, there is no depth in combat, narrative or exploration and the roleplaying is almost nonexistent. I think the video author explained the pull of the game quite well though, it's dumb, absurd fun and oftentimes funny, but for me personally even that gets old rather quickly.
I also don't really get the hype for projects like Skyblivion or Skywind etc. I mean, as far as I understand it, it's the same game but without the aesthetic qualities and gameplay quirks that made it what it is. Better graphics sure, but blander also. They just seam quite devoid of character and pointless.
Oblivion is very flawed and it shows. You made a lot of valid points.
whenever i play oblivion i kind of view it as a day dream. nothing is polished and it's all a little goofy like the narrator said. the animations are choppy the spell casting looks weird and the quests dont really make sense. the main story is a drag but exploring towns and grinding guild quests are what involve the roleplaying aspect for me. skyrim feels like im watching a movie sort of, everything makes logical sense and is well sorted, its missing the messy mystical aspect that oblivion gave me (played skyrim first).
it took me a good while to get into the game but when i finally "got it" oblivion will forever be my favorite. food for thought
2:55 But that can't be what they're doing. They wouldn't just rebuild every single tired system from Oblivion in the Skyrim Creation Kit. That would be reinventing the wheel. There would be no point. It would make more sense to mod Oblivion to improve its graphics and controls. That can't be what they're doing. That would make them the most foolish, time-wasting people around to recreate Oblivion's engine and require you to have Skyrim installed to play it. They have to be abandoning many of Oblivion's features like character parameters and spell creation. Otherwise, what is it that they're trying to accomplish?
The combat is just so janky that i can't play it any more 😅 it'll always be in my heart, though.
Skyblivion is apparently nearing launch, likely be playable for you then.
God I hope they didn't forget the proper magic system...
What was that about Pinkie Pie reacting to Oblivion?
This video is bewildering. Oblivion was a litmus test for single player rpgs? What? Skyblivion's announcement was met with rapture? Maybe by newplebs. The community as a whole don't give a shit about these dime a dozen port projects. They should port it to morrowind if anything so we don't have to put up with oblivions shitty combat and magic system
Some of you only look at games from all tbe negstives though its like you dont even enhoy games i dont get it lol
"Pelennial Whirestrake"
People don’t know what they want.
True fans will keep enjoying what they want, and tell the rest to shove it.
i still find it rediculous that some "gamers" will refuse to play a game on the only fact that the graphics are not up to date of new games...
RUNESCAPE MENTIONED !!!!! RAAAAHHHH!!!!
I just think it’s neat.
hmmm never heard that pronunciation before... Pellennial... ehm think the name you were looking for was Pelinal? Pelinal Whitestrake