deep cycle battery agm vs standard which battery is better?
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- Опубліковано 18 вер 2015
- Deep cycle batteries are available in standard, flooded type lead acid batteries and AGM absorbed glass mat chemistry. The benefits of AGM deep cycle batteries are the slow self discharge rate, lack of corrosive gas and vibration resistant nature.
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A nice description.
Thank you!
Great answer to my question. Thanks!
Thanks for finally clearing up this issue with me!!
Thanks for explaining the discharge rates. I’ve got more the one vehicle and I’m always ruining batteries because I’ll forget to put on the battery tender. Last time I bought a new battery, I got the AGM/gel type for one of my cars and I’ve noticed that if I don’t drive it for a week, it’ll continue to start right up! That never used to happen in the past. I’ve got a fairly new battery in one of my other vehicles but after about a week of sitting, I can tell that it has lost some of its power. Sure, I can always disconnect one of the terminals but that resets the clock. I’m going to be buying AGM from now on. It’s definitely worth the extra money for someone in my situation.
excellent info, thanks for sharing!
Thank you!
recombination is awesome. sealed is the way to go.
AGM batteries are superior in the fact they don't not freeze at the cold temperatures and perform better
But Gel behaves better in hot climates
How are the internals different from a car battery?
Regular flooded batteries don't freeze either at cold temperatures as long as they're fully charged.
Biased much? Flooded lead won't freeze if they have a reasonable charge, certainly enough to start the vehicle they were meant for, at that temperature. The performance is irrelevant otherwise, except for greater lifespan, and yet, the lifespan in dollars per year is "usually" lower. This leaves one decided advantage which is offroading, resistance to vibration, and orientation at odd angles. Frankly I think the time is near where vehicles will just move to a smaller battery combined with a supercap array. I see people using the supercaps but trying to pick one or the other instead of leveraging the strengths of both together.
did not know that! okay for my rav4 toyota as a starter battery? better cranking power in cold weather?
Question. Where and how do Surrette batteries play a role or compare to AGM?
What max charge current should be used for an AGM 660ah battery park?
I need a marine battery for a 12v soft wash pressure washer. It will need to hold up with many charging cycles and about a hour run times any suggestions thanks.
Thanks buddy
grate advise
Jeff, I have 8 of each on my solar energy system. The biggest drawback I have found with AGM batteries is that they cannot take nearly as many cycles below about 11VDC as flooded lead-acid batteries can. To me, this is a major issue because it affects their longevity big time.
I believe you are correct, from what I am told Gel is superior to AGM for deep discharge but very $$
i have a agm battery in my lexus. recently alternator died. and believe it or not. i went 2 days with zero amps coming from my alternator. i wanna say about 7 start ups from my battery with no load coming from the alternator. and when i tested it on second day it had 11.4 volt and it stillllll started my car hahahaha.. well worth the 270 bucks..put new high amp 200 alternator on started cars charged fast n. runs perfect. AGM..HANDS DOWN..
No, you didn't. Your alternator may not have been performing up to spec but was definitely putting charge into the battery for it to have lasted that long. A fresh/charged battery CAN start a vehicle 7 times no problem, but not do that and power the vehicle the whole time. Recognize that your battery or alternator light coming on just means the voltage dropped below optimum, not that it's doing nothing.
This is fact. You obviously don't understand how much current is used driving. It's more than starting in total Ah by multiple times.
@@stinkycheese804 i have drivin 100 miles on a dead alternator at night with lights on, in a 84 subaru with a carb. and yes alternator was 100% dead. i broke down eventually the next day. carb cars dont need full power like EFI.
@@tonymemory2279 Apples and oranges, talking about a vehicle without electronic engine controls or fuel injectors. Even then, 100 miles would be atypical with lights on. The point is, don't plan on it because it is unusual then, and practically impossible with a remotely modern engine (remote meaning less than 25 years old).
Question , is it better to use 3 Deep cycle reg size batteries @ 650 CCA or One of the very big 1500 CCA 210 Amp hours batteries that cost 700 bucks? Application is an MCI Bus. 1980 Crusader II 8V71 Detroit Diesel.
thankyou. i have installed a ssb 34/78plt battery in my 1998 chevy truck. i dont drive it much, did i chose the right battery for what i need from this battery Dano 1/10/17 3 year warranty or should it be 5 year??? and should call the number the activates the warranty ? $ 175.49
Old video, so not sure anyone is paying attention anymore. Trying to decide on this for running a trolling motor and other electronic on my boat. I heard you can destroy AGM with overcharging. Is there a way to avoid that without having to sit on you charge waiting to stop it? Also read that you can't run them past 50% discharge or you ruin them?
Can I use Batric UPS 100 (group 27) for my 50 lb minnkta trolling motor
damm youtube again, i just came from a video with the lowest sound,and this one is loud as a blasting horn.. almost blew the speakers; now back to the video lol
Good explanation. Thank you!
Perfect explanation thanks a lot!
this has been so confusing to me as they're both labeled Maintenance Free batteries.
One more question though:
Can any system run on AGM batteries?
my motorcycle manual says to only use a specific lead-acid one, but lets say I make room for another shaped AGM battery. One with the same capacity and cold cranking amps as the original, then it should work right? or does it have something to do with the way the alternator charges the battery?
It should be fine, just check the charge voltage from the bike at mid revs and make sure it doesn't go above whatever the battery specifies as the max bulk voltage (Typically 14.4V)
thanks! I'll have a look
You'll be OK, I had a 12v 20ah AGM battery in my Civic for 2 years. They cost 40 on eGay
hello can i replace Gf 12 105AH battery with ordernary battery
An Acid-Free AGM? That's hilarious. How do you get the redox reaction to create electromotive force, aka voltage?
I am installing a solar system on my rv, I currently have AGM batteries, what type of Charge controller would be best for an AGM battery?
+gonepriused A blue sky MPPT charge controller wont let you down www.blueskyenergyinc.com/
Charging it's different for flooded and AGM and should never be mixed
Good job but u will need to determine why u have so much background noise👍🤘
agm has acid and lead and the glass mat absorbs the acid to keep it in contact with the plates if used in a different orientation which flooded types can't, they can only be used upright.
and why do you need to use them on their sides,please ?
for your info, they ALL are the same tech,lead acid,and they last about the same, they do the same, just the agms cost much more, go figure
@@josepeixoto3384 For your information my motor bike has on on it's side as do NBN power back up supplies. AGM means absorbed glass mat.
@@josepeixoto3384 A quick google search would tell you. "The acronym stands for “absorbed glass mat” and that's one of many improvements made to Planté's original train light battery. Glass mats, cushioning the ultra-thin lead plates, will squish like a sponge. In turn, manufacturers can squeeze more glass mats and lead into one battery. More lead equals more power. AGM batteries are extremely resistant to vibration, are totally sealed, nonspillable and maintenance-free. AGM offers better cycling performance, minimal gassing and acid leakage when compared with conventional lead-acid batteries. The end result of all of the features of AGM technology is superior life performance. The leading advantages of AGM are a charge that is up to five times faster than the flooded version, and the ability to deep cycle. AGM offers a depth-of-discharge of 80 percent; the flooded, on the other hand, is specified at 50 percent DoD to attain the same cycle life."
I am curious about mixing flooded cell and AGM batteries. I have six house batteries and can't afford to swap them all out for AGM at the same time. So what are your thoughts on mixing and replacing them all one by one overtime to AGM?
never a good idea.. flooded and AGM charge differently, The charger may overcharge the AGM as a result.
I've done it and it works fine, as long as you satisfy the charge and discharge parameters of all batteries involved at all times.
I have a agm battery for a car and would like to use it for a boat. Would it be a deep cycle and work for a marine application?
An AGM battery is capable of cycling, but it is not a true deep cycle battery. You will not get as many cycles vs a DC battery.
I bought an AGM battery from Costco today but I am unsure if it is a deep cycle battery or regular. I am looking for a deep cycle battery for my small camper trailer. Any suggustions or thoughts on how to tell its a deep cycle? thanks,
Interesting. Most likely it is a deep cycle battery. Try doing a google search on the part number for the cut sheet on capacity.
Haha, 'Acid free', lol. "AGM don't gas", yes they can! And flooded batteries do not discharge that fast.
Mike Brink
yes desulfation techniques work. Do not recommend equalization unless you standby and monitor battery temp. stop charging if it gets hot
You said the magic word ... Lexus ... anything after that is uninformed/misunderstood due rhe nature of luxury car buyers.
There is no way to put your comments into a real, scientific context. Luxury car buyers don't understand realities/ science, in general. They "buy" their way through life. ..and then brag........ which is of no use to anyone.
Had you spoken differently, in real, scientific, logical terms..I would have considered them...
A car is just a car...they all follow the same physical laws of science....not the emotional world of luxury people.
lindy2341 typical broke Whiner, lmao
How is the inside of a marine battery different than a car battery?
We have about 50 brand new flood lead acid batteries in stock and if we do not keep them maintained they will drop about .1 volts every about 10 days or so, therefore they will discharge at a rate of about half a percent a day if you do not keep them charged up on the other hand AGM batteries loose one to 3 percent a month. Nothing is wrong with Lead Acid batteries as long as you keep them up but AGM batteries are worth the money if one can afford it.This man is speaking the truth!
Is it actually rated as a "deep cycle" because I'm getting the impression from reading that standard AGM batteries are naturally deep cycle?
I have an Optima Blue Top AGM. 4 years of use and it discharges really fast now. Using it for my TV and computer. Charging it with my alternator. What would be a great replacement? Looking at an Exide lead acid and I'm thinking of two 6v golf cart batteries in series=12v.
look into lithium ion batteries
I thought those were small batteries only for cell phones, etc. Have any examples?
I thought those were small batteries only for cell phones, etc. Have any examples?
I thought those were small batteries only for cell phones, etc. Have any examples?
theses batteries are available in large size as well,iv seen them have 300ah ........do a you tube or google search lots of info on them ...heres a link whrer you can buy them but be prepared,they are expensive.......www.lithiumion-batteries.com/products/lithium-ion-solar-batteries/
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is gel or agm better? Does one last longer than other?
In the past gel batteries would have higher life cycles current AGM by Leoch and other brands are producing higher Cycles now
@@DeepcyclebatterystoreSanDiego so I should go with agm then? I was told gel is better but from what I can see agm is better choice.
What about the difference in life of an AGM compared to and Flooded Lead Acid Battery that is not sealed?
I 'believe' the life is similar, 'if' you keep up the electrolyte 'monthly' in the Flooded battery! Albeit, one can get different options, where flood acid 'should' get 5 years if taken care of, and AGM 'can' get 7 to 10 years of life!
can I mix agm and acid batteries in a golf cart?
the result is never good
Ty vm since they both deep cycle then i just buy cheaper one :)))
My AGM Odysee/DieHard Platinum was the worst battery I have ever ran. It never held a charge more than 3 weeks if I didn't drive it. Now it won't it for more than an hour.
You did not mention anything about the number of cycles for each technology from what I understand flooded vented are the best option for solar applications, is this correct?
Correct, flooded typically have higher life cycles with proper maintenance
Hi can you help
my car is not a start stop or agm battery type. But can I use one ? It's a diesel!
mick ladd
Yes you can use AGM battery
is perfectly fine
Deep Cycle Battery San Diego thanks
Are the exterior dimensions of an AGM typically larger that those of the equivalent Lead Acid battery? My boat has 7 batteries on it and next season will be my 4th on these. So I'm considering a complete refresh - and would like them all to fit in the same enclosures. Thanks
+Joe Rickard Always leave enough room for batteries to swell as they age. May be difficult to remove them after they swell and push together, especially the AGM
When should you change or add acid in AGM battery after the initial setup. I mean after 3-4 years of use can we reuse it by adding acid cells like we did when we bought it.
I have seen people open the cells on AGM and add electrolytes but very certain will void any warranty
Which battery is better if I have an Amplifier with 2 subwoofer to my truck
Nice video. WHAT IS BEST FOR ELETRIC SCOOTER?TKS
lithium batteries
How do AGM batteries hold up under cold winter conditions (zero degrees F), compared to lead acid batteries?
They perform better but are also susceptible to cold weather current reduction.
Can i replace my regular truck battery for a AGM battery
Yes, no problem, it would be an upgrade
may be stay to a lead acid battery? I will
What about the weight between the two?
AGM is almost always heavier
You are only correct on half of what your saying about the agm battery
He’s a salesman, he sells them 🤔🇬🇧
so wait a minute, you mean to say If I plug up the little vent hole on a flood-battery, it will stop loosing it's charge? Yes?
the vent allows the battery to gas, do not plug it please
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which is better for solar?
AGM, charge faster
That's great I already bought two of those in 100ah lol Thanks!!!
But- I noticed that they don't take as much on the charger ...
the trojan 12v 27 group 100ah takes a higher charge I think... maybe only .30 to .50 but ....
The best thing I've found on the net was plans from Avasva .
Hi, one thing about AGM batteries in my opinion , is that for most makes equalization charges at around 15.5v are not necessary & if anything will shorten the life of the battery. I see Lifeline are one of the few to say their AGM's are designed to cope with a 15.5v overcharge occasionally & it does them good. Some people seem to confuse AGM's & GEL cells. I'd like to warn people that most GEL cells are likely to have their lives greatly shortened by charging much above 14.2 volts at normal (non freezing) temperatures. Victron Energy say their GEL cells can last up to 20 years correctly charged. I My Sonnenschein GEL cells are still almost the same capacity as when they were new 10 years ago . Unless you can be sure of correct charging, AGM's are a safer bet due to their less strict charging requirements, though.
good intel! Gel and AGM are cousins but not same
So the 'flooded battery' isn't a true deep cycle battery.
You can tell this because it's sealed, So the alloy is lead calcium rather than a true deep cycle which would be lead antimony.
Compare you AGM against a true deep cycle lead antimony, or better yet 2 golf cart batteries vs 2 AGM and the AGM will underperform for fewer years than the golf cart or lead antimony batteries!!!
1% per month...
agm batteries do not tollerate engine heat so need to be mounted outside engine bay
agree or use a heat shield/sleeve
@@DeepcyclebatterystoreSanDiego hi i have a burning question
can i use a dcdc/s charger fed by alternator/solar to charge single battery setup
@@damienfrizzell9394 Yes, RedArc (AUS) has a cool item that does that
@@DeepcyclebatterystoreSanDiego cheers so i cant use my existing projecta one?
AGM are overrated,I get longer life out of wet dual purpose than the AGM,at half or less the price...AGM are best for boats,but not for cars or trucks.
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240p yuk
AGM batteries have definite advantages, but this guy is exaggerating them, and outright lying, to sell his batteries.
On average the AGM have longer life
While flooded batteries do require maintenance, if taken care of properly this battery type will last longer than many of their counterparts.
www.crownbattery.com/news/agm-vs-flooded-batteries-what-you-need-to-know
Your wrong the AGM is garbage to me if you not used your car then you have headache the FLOODED battery is good if you not used your car is not discharge you can start your car
I refuse to take advice from someone who has no freaking idea about electronics.
AGM=absorbent glass mat, not absorbed glass mat. Hurts your credibility when you get the basics wrong.
Any way to fit an AGM with 220 Reserve Capacity in my 2018 Promaster City van? I only find them in 13 inch long and seems my battery shelf is around 12 inches long. The recommended replacement for my van is an Optima DH6 Group size H6 with an RC of 140 minutes. Currently my battery has a RC of 120.
If you converted into a sleeping area do you have room underneath the bed? We have seen people lay the larger 12 volt AGM batteries on their side or on their ends to accommodate
A fantastic although expensive solution would be to drop in a battleborn 12-volt 100 amp hour lithium iron phosphate battery that meet your Dimensions. It will replace two 6 volt 200 amp hour batteries
@@DeepcyclebatterystoreSanDiego But can these batteries replace automotive starter batteries? do they have the Cold cranking amps and will they charge correctly from a 160a alternator designed for Led Acid batteries?
@@12vLife perhaps running two battery system. 1 battery starts the motor. The other battery is the house power. In-between the batteries use a sterling DC battery to battery charger